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Speaker 1: I can name so many strong black women, but I

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Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes you all unique. Is

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Speaker 1: that how? I mean? How many strong black women do?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Millions, all of them, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, but people like seeing you all get to

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Speaker 1: be yourselves and don't like you don't feel tied down

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Speaker 1: to anything like that's very unique.

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Speaker 3: Well thank you.

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Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy that that's unique, right, you know, But

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Speaker 4: when you think about it, we have to kind of

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Speaker 4: learn to be comfortable in our freedom because we've been

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Speaker 4: taught so often to conform and to be quiet and

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Speaker 4: to take up less space and to like just be quiet,

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Speaker 4: you know. So it is like a tool, a muscle

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Speaker 4: that has to be exercised. Welcome back to good mom's

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Speaker 4: bad choices.

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Speaker 3: I'm Erica and I'm Mela.

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Speaker 4: Happy hump day, Happy hump day, bitches.

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Speaker 2: It's time to smoke.

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Speaker 3: A bloo and it's time to smoke a blah. Is

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Speaker 3: it back with a clock and your nipples up?

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Speaker 2: It's not out nipples.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many times gonna tell you my

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Speaker 4: areolas are camouflage.

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Speaker 3: They're camouflage. So yeah, you can't see it.

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Speaker 2: If you're on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Go now look at Mila's nipples the one one minute mark.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you'll see mine because mine are really big and

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Speaker 3: they keep popping out of my dress.

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Speaker 4: This is how we entice people to come to our

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Speaker 4: come to our YouTube channel. So all twenty thousand of

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Speaker 4: our subscribers mostly came over to see our nipples.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's like twenty four thousand. And if you

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Speaker 3: haven't subscribed, make sure you click the subscribe buttons. You

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Speaker 3: get alerted every time our beautiful faces hit the YouTube channels.

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Speaker 4: We got a nice studio and shit, we look good.

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Speaker 4: We're getting dressed and putting all makeup and shit, yeah pla.

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Speaker 3: Today I'm wearing or because I'm flirty and it's the

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Speaker 3: And I have these beautiful accessories on if you dare accessories.

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Speaker 3: This is a female founded, female owned, black owned accessory business.

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Speaker 3: And I like my earrings. They're very bushy there.

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Speaker 4: Look you're petting soft.

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Speaker 3: It's soft that come in many different colors.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like something from Whoville.

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Speaker 3: Well you know that, you know in the episode we

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she makes those.

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Speaker 4: I'm wearing a Djon dress with a high split up

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like it's like mustard. I've never heard

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Speaker 4: anyone call the color dijon. Ever, well today you did.

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Speaker 4: It's called Dijon mustard.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at it to just figure out what

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Speaker 4: This is by Vintage Souls and we actually have a

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Speaker 4: discount code advantage Souls. Let me give it, Let me

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Speaker 4: do my jump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was on, Oh wow, you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna you're gonna gonna be standing totally out of camera.

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Speaker 3: See you like that little slate you can pull it,

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Speaker 3: The material is soft, kind of like those Calvin Klein

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Speaker 4: You know, just a little something some you know, I

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Speaker 4: just want to, you know, show my haters a little

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Speaker 3: I can, yeah, roll it up, Roll it up up today, Nelly.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing fine. I'm doing really good. I am. I

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Speaker 3: Oh fuck, I gotta go on Amazon and buy your

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Speaker 3: and got out of your list. You know what I

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Speaker 4: I'm about to post my registry. I'm much post.

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Speaker 4: If you buy me a housewarming gift, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 3: Basically, just know it's gonna be the dip teak candle.

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Speaker 4: I know what I was thinking about it. I was like,

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Speaker 3: We had to capitalize on that Black Friday sale. We

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Speaker 4: I'm about to put interior designer on my resume for sure,

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Speaker 3: And the designer of perfectly rolled vanilla Backwoods.

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Speaker 4: And now for the final touch, just a little, just

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Speaker 4: Somewhere our nigga's over there smell backing down as blunt,

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Speaker 3: The blunt with honey makes it taste sweet, and then

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Speaker 3: doctor Raquel. And I know you said I don't have

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Speaker 2: Before the episode started, she was like, I don't have

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Speaker 3: I was like, my daughter will call me a doctor

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that'd be so fun. Like call me doctor.

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Speaker 3: I call me doctor dick. Oh he doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: do that. I'd be lay because my last name is Dickerson.

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Speaker 2: That's going to work.

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Speaker 4: Well, just put the sun on it. You can't just

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Speaker 4: I'm the six. Sorry, just took away from your intro

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I know everybody says this,

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Speaker 4: We did, like women's studies. We started gender and Sexuality Studies,

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Speaker 2: Where's this going?

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Speaker 4: I'm leading the women to freedom? Oh now, on the underground,

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Speaker 3: Don't get pleass fucked up here with this this ideology.

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Speaker 4: But then God was like, this is the eight hundred

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Speaker 4: You know, it's as long as as something.

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Speaker 4: You know he was you know, he was a baby

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Speaker 1: with naturopathic medical students because she was trying to see

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Speaker 1: how the environment affected our fertility. And so she was

443
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 1: doing all this research just like the actual like just

444
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 1: environment earth yes, or like plastics, pollution, mercury, arsenic. So

445
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: she was actually testing these things in very young women

446
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: who couldn't get pregnant. And so she was just looking

447
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,719
Speaker 1: for people to help her with the research. And that's

448
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: literally how I got in.

449
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Speaker 2: Wait, I'm so curious about this research though, Like what was.

450
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Speaker 4: Handsmaid's Tale?

451
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: The first so true, it's real. So it showed that

452
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Speaker 1: especially people that traveled to like China, like a lot

453
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Speaker 1: of her patients were people that like traveled often, or

454
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Speaker 1: even people in California that you know, maybe ate a

455
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Speaker 1: lot of sushi, ate a lot of fish. She it

456
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Speaker 1: just didn't make sense to her that people in their

457
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Speaker 1: twenties were not able to get pregnant, and she's like,

458
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Speaker 1: this is this is like the ideal time. So something's

459
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Speaker 1: going on. So she would literally do blood tests and

460
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Speaker 1: urine test to look for like arsenic camium ten mercury,

461
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 1: and every single time it just lit up.

462
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Speaker 2: I'm scared. I eat a lot of fish. I'm stopping.

463
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Speaker 2: No more fish.

464
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Speaker 1: Then yeah, So it literally it literally showed how those

465
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Speaker 1: things impacted, you know, your fertility. And so she was

466
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Speaker 1: doing that and then I worked with her for a

467
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Speaker 1: few years and then lo and behold, I met a

468
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Speaker 1: doctor in Beverly Hills. He was doing the same thing,

469
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Speaker 1: and that's how I got my first job.

470
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Speaker 3: And mmm, wow doing it for a while now that's amazing.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw an issue and a problem and then

472
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Speaker 4: you said, hey, how can I resolve that? Yeah, especially

473
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Speaker 4: for like it's so like just brown and black women specifically,

474
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Speaker 4: to see something that looks like you and be able

475
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Speaker 4: to feel comfortable in that space because it is, I think,

476
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 4: and people people don't even know it's an option, because

477
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 4: freezing your eggs is a luxury, and so it's like

478
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Speaker 4: if that's not even an option in your mind, you

479
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 4: don't even think about, you know, all those things so

480
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 4: do your work is so important.

481
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. You really don't think about it.

482
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Speaker 1: And I think it was so important for me to

483
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Speaker 1: follow the path that I did, because I think that

484
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: sometimes the wires can get crossed, you know, like when

485
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: people try to step on other people's hos. Like if

486
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: you break your arm, you can now go see a

487
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,479
Speaker 1: naturopathic doctor. You got to go see a surgeon, right,

488
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think that sometimes that's

489
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Speaker 1: where it gets messed up. But like a lot of

490
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Speaker 1: the doctors that I've been lucky enough to work with,

491
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Speaker 1: they understand that prevention is also a part of the treatment,

492
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Speaker 1: you know. And so we would work with people that

493
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Speaker 1: were very young, had a very low Oberian reserve. We

494
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Speaker 1: would test like their heavy metals there, you know, if

495
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: they were depleted in micronutrients, we would restore that and

496
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Speaker 1: then it would allow them to have like a better

497
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Speaker 1: outcome for egg freezing and stuff like that. But what

498
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Speaker 1: I noticed, and I was working in Beverly Hill, so

499
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Speaker 1: I get it, but I started noticing that white women

500
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Speaker 1: were bringing their eighteen year old daughters in to have

501
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Speaker 1: their ovarian reserve test. It. So they're like, oh, my

502
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Speaker 1: daughter wants to go to law school or med.

503
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Speaker 4: School, or we want to see how long we have

504
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Speaker 4: what right the parent?

505
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Speaker 1: The parents they were like, I want to see you

506
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Speaker 1: know what her bearing a reserve is?

507
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Speaker 2: Like why is that any mouses?

508
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Speaker 4: First of all, but they were helping me and maybe

509
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Speaker 4: it's kind or maybe it runs in their family, like

510
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Speaker 4: sometimes you know, if the only menipies is something like

511
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Speaker 4: a generic I mean genetic, can I get it?

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I guess.

513
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Speaker 2: Maybe I would hope it would be more the daughter.

514
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Speaker 2: Maybe not. I don't know. It's not like they're forced.

515
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Speaker 3: Maybe you're gonna get those I just not like Candmaid's Tale.

516
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this creepy.

517
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Speaker 3: But I could see in actually empowering your child to

518
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Speaker 3: kind of just have a ton not kind of having

519
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Speaker 3: autonomy over your body and having as much information as

520
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Speaker 3: possible exactly.

521
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Speaker 1: And they were so young, and so as women, we

522
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: are born with all the eggs will ever have. So

523
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Speaker 1: bringing them in at eighteen is allowing them to see like, oh,

524
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Speaker 1: this is what my fertility health is like in the present.

525
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Speaker 1: I may I may need to go ahead and freeze

526
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Speaker 1: my eggs now. So then in the future, when I'm

527
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Speaker 1: done with med school, law school, I'm thirty five forty,

528
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Speaker 1: I have eggs from when I'm eighteen. But that is right,

529
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Speaker 1: So that's privilege though you.

530
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Speaker 4: Have your like those are your highest agg even right

531
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Speaker 4: now if we froze our So I just recently had

532
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Speaker 4: Luna's aunt went to this process and explained it to me,

533
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, lo, and I told her you

534
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 4: were coming on the show, but I had no idea

535
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: the level, like you have to get the prime mist eggs.

536
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Speaker 4: So essentially, if we froze our eighteen year old eggs,

537
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Speaker 4: a there's a lot of them, and be they're the

538
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Speaker 4: best so and versus us freezing them right now, it's

539
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: like they're all not gonna make it. And now it's like, oh,

540
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be your thirty five year old eggs and

541
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Speaker 4: that's your potent eighteen year old ones.

542
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Speaker 3: Are people just like are people just genetically I guess

543
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Speaker 3: predisposed to having like some people just have more eggs

544
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Speaker 3: from the beginning, or like there's not a certain amount

545
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Speaker 3: of eggs a human has, right, so you could you

546
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Speaker 3: could just genuinely be born with a low egg count

547
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Speaker 3: or is it ever low and it or just suddenly decreases.

548
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other factors involved, like health and all

549
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Speaker 3: those things.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes, So it just decreases over time. So we

551
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Speaker 1: all start with a pretty good amount of eggs, and

552
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Speaker 1: then over time we just lose more and more. Like

553
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: by the time we have our first period, we're already

554
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: down a ton, and so we lose them over time.

555
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Speaker 4: But like you're saying, but you're you're losing eggs even

556
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: before your first period, no, which is trash.

557
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: So like I was losing I was losing eggs at ten.

558
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Speaker 1: It's like literally and it like I can't remember the

559
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Speaker 1: exact number, but like literally, as we're aging, we're already

560
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: losing eggs, like we're born with all the eggs we

561
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Speaker 1: have quite literally born with, and then by the time

562
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Speaker 1: we have our first period, we're already down a ton.

563
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Speaker 1: But that's why we're always so skeptical, like, oh, how

564
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: are these teenagers getting pregnant so early? Because they're supposed

565
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Speaker 1: to because genetically that's how they're just like right, right, yeah, yeah,

566
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: so right right, because I don't know that, but not

567
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Speaker 1: supposed to.

568
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Speaker 2: I don't because.

569
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Speaker 4: Not figured it out.

570
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Speaker 1: You're fertile as fuck right now, like this is why

571
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Speaker 1: it's happening. But but yeah, I think like just seeing

572
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Speaker 1: those girls, it really helped me to see like I

573
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: have to create a space for black women to know, like, girl,

574
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: you need to at least just see where you are,

575
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes we don't feel like that's a

576
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: possibility for us to even just know where we are,

577
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: or we just don't want to know, or we assume

578
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: like I'll be fine, like my mom was fine, so

579
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, And that's not always the case.

580
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Speaker 4: Okay, get your eggs checked together.

581
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Speaker 3: Will you hold my hand when we get the results? Yes,

582
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: well you want me some eggs if I need them.

583
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: I don't think you're lacking in the egg department, my love,

584
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: I think you are. You are a Jamaican egg holder.

585
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Speaker 4: I was thinking that that maybe I have a too many,

586
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: maybe you have your teenage eggs still. But that's another

587
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: thing that I learned, is that because one of my

588
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: friends got her eggs checked and then she she was

589
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Speaker 4: saying like hers are good but not great, or like

590
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Speaker 4: how are the amounts or the quality of it, and

591
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Speaker 4: the doctor was telling her they could be great today

592
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: six months from now, those motherfuckers could be like, yeah,

593
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 4: there's there's no way.

594
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Speaker 1: To little fear, I know.

595
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Speaker 4: And that's why it's like maybe I understand like not

596
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: knowing just but also we have the and this is

597
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: not the piece but kind of the pieces that we

598
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: already have experienced that we have one child. So for

599
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: someone who has had not had any children, and you know, right,

600
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: and you know, it is empowering, and it is like

601
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: and we are like like about the eighteen year olds going,

602
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 4: but I'm like, if we were born into money and

603
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: they're born to money and their money, they would be like,

604
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 4: of course we're going to the dentist today. You know,

605
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: you don't have to, but you can, you know, it's just.

606
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can't.

607
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: Do you want your eggs reserved? Your eighteen year old eggs?

608
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Speaker 1: Come on, come on lad, right, right, let's just fifteen

609
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: k you know, let's just do it.

610
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's super expensive and it's and that's another thing.

611
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: It's also very like kind of trying on the body. Right,

612
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: you have to administer yourself shots, you have to see

613
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: the doctor every day or every other day, like you

614
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: have to go to the doctor's office every other day.

615
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: You're and so you have to commit and then I

616
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: got all these other things right, And it can take

617
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: like six weeks, it can take two months because they're

618
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: testing your eggs cont hopefully if you have a good doctor.

619
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Speaker 1: Wait to get tested, you have to do all this

620
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: or to actually freeze freeze.

621
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Speaker 4: Okay, well to freeze you have to start looking at

622
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: the eggs and getting the healthiest eggs. So they have

623
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: to monitor you. So in order to do that, do

624
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 4: have a significant amount of time. And then you have

625
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: to do all these things, these hormone shots to up

626
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 4: the eggs and make them the primest eggs. And so

627
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: that may take one month, that may take two months.

628
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: Like you think I'm the FIA, I know. I'm like,

629
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: are you the fertility pressure?

630
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: I had one?

631
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: I had, So I just had this conversation. I was like,

632
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: who fucking knew? I had no idea. Everyone's talking about

633
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: like freeze and eggs. I'm like, what is that?

634
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: Even in tail?

635
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Right?

636
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: Is she gonna for hear it? So wait, let's talk

637
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: about the pricing because I've always I'm always at like,

638
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: is it I mean, obviously this is a privilege if

639
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: you can do something like this in ways right, can

640
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: you Is there any way to put this on insurance?

641
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: Is there any way to like, are they things you

642
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: can get around this? Because like, what are the options

643
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: for people that don't have just fifteen thousands of fifteen

644
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: thousand dollars of disposable income to do something like that?

645
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real.

646
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: Get a sugar daddy, can't image one? Get a sugari

647
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: step one, Get a sugar daddy, step two.

648
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: But no, but no, it is super expensive.

649
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: It's fifteen thousand dollars. It's like the average price in

650
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: the US. Most insurances don't cover it, which is so trash.

651
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: But most insurances make you qualify as infertile before paying

652
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: for any type of fertility care. So what a lot

653
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: of people do is they find jobs that cover this care.

654
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: So the health tech company I work at, we work

655
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: with employers to make sure employees have a fertility benefit.

656
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: So what a lot of young women have been doing

657
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: is getting like part time jobs at big tech companies

658
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: or Starbucks. There are different like small companies where you

659
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: can work for them even part time and they have

660
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: that fertility benefit.

661
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: At Starbucks you can do that.

662
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: So you gotta have work part time at a a

663
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: company that believes in your fertility to be able to

664
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: avoid the fifteen to twenty five thousand.

665
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Wild So, like when you do get tested for infertility,

666
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: what is that process, Like, what.

667
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: Do you have to do?

668
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's called Oberian reserve testing, and it's a

669
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: blood test, simple blood tests that they do, you know,

670
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: when you go to the doctor, and they'll look at

671
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: like three different things. So typically they'll look at like

672
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: your follical stimulating hormone, your anti malarian hormone, and your

673
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: estrogen and all of these hormones together tell the doctor

674
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: like how many eggs you have left. So that's what

675
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: they do to kind of assess like where you are in.

676
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: Time, so you don't have to like go to a

677
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: certain time of the month.

678
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so you do have to go on day

679
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: three of your period.

680
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

681
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: So typically what they'll say is yeah, yeah, they'll say,

682
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: call me as soon as your period starts, and then

683
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: when your period starts, they'll have you come in around

684
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: day three and they'll do the testing. But everybody doesn't

685
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: have a normal period, so it creates like all types

686
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: of of like trouble for people to have pcos or

687
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, other endocrent conditions. People that you know don't

688
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: have periods at all. It makes it really hard. Or

689
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of women have been on birth control for

690
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: twenty years and they're like, oh, I still get my

691
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: period because you know that month I take the white

692
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: pills or the last week I take the white pills,

693
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: that's my period. And I'm like, no, it's not a

694
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: real period, like it's a withdrawal blead. So a lot

695
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: of people aren't getting periods, so they don't really know

696
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: when to go, but typically it should be on day three.

697
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: Does having an IUD or some kind of implanted or

698
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: even being on regular birth control, does that affect the testing?

699
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Yes, so that does affect the testing. And what most

700
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: doctors will do iud's they leave am in. Now they

701
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: used to take them out first just so they can

702
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: get like an accurate number. But what they'll do now

703
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: if it's an IUD, they'll let you leave it in

704
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: and still run the test. But if you're taking birth control,

705
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: they'll typically ask you to stop for a month and

706
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: then come back.

707
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about a non hormonal birth contry, Well.

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you find Does that affect copper?

709
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the copper doesn't also affect the count.

710
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: No, so copper ruds are the best option because they

711
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: don't have any hormones, so your body can actually give

712
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: a real result. Yeah.

713
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: One time, one time at story one time, one of

714
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: the other soccer moms told me that if my periods

715
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: are short.

716
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: You're never gonna let this bitch live this down about

717
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: this she's been thinking about this for two years. But

718
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: when she told me, I was I was like, bitch,

719
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: what I told you?

720
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: I was like, you think that's true?

721
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: And then you made me man.

722
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: She told me that if you have because I generally

723
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: don't have a very long period, like maybe five days.

724
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: Now that I'm on this copper iud, I feel like

725
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: the periods are kind of a little bit.

726
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Like five days is pretty average.

727
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: But anyway, she told me, the shorter your periods are,

728
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: I means you have less X.

729
00:31:52,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: That is not true. My came out she was people

730
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: just be saying ship.

731
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she was projecting.

732
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: How do you feel about birth control? Because I know,

733
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: like there's currently most there's a lot of talk about help.

734
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: Birth control you know kind of alters your decision making

735
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: because your hormones are being regulated, and like who you

736
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: choose a partner and things like that, and just being

737
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: on a long term you know, hasn't really been No

738
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 4: one really talks about the long term effects of being

739
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: on birth control, and like wait, and then recently our producer,

740
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: our producer told me that it was terrible, and so

741
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: I just got off birth control.

742
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: Bad idea, but.

743
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Not r told you.

744
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: All around that. I'm like, fuck birth control. You're right,

745
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: it's it's poisoning me. It's poisoning me. But like, as

746
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: a fertility doctor, what do you recommend as a like

747
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: what is your go like, what do you use as contraceptive?

748
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So I got off birth control a couple

749
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: of years ago because I do want to be pregnant soon.

750
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing with birth control is that it

751
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: really can alter your hormones. It can alter like a

752
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: lot of your micronutrients in your body, and it does

753
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: affect like your mood, your behavior, everything. But I think

754
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: that in today's society, with so much like attention around abortion,

755
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, some people can actually get a felony, you

756
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: can go to jail. I think that if you're in

757
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: a state where people are really monitoring you, and if

758
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: you get pregnant, like the worst will happen. You absolutely

759
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: need to be on birth control, like, no questions asked.

760
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: But however, if you know, like I do, want to

761
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: get pregnant in the next five years, you know, even

762
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: if you don't necessarily have a partner, I do think

763
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: it's important to just give your body a break, especially

764
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: if you've been on it for like ten plus years.

765
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: You want to give your body a break to see,

766
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: like are my cycles even regular or has this birth

767
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: control been masking my period? So I think it's important

768
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: to give your body a break so you can get

769
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: like the right testing done so you can really see

770
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: where you are. Because if you're in a good place,

771
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: then you can say, Okay, in a good place, I'm

772
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: not really ready to get pregnant right now. I'll start again.

773
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: But I think it's important to like have a plan.

774
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm all about. It's like fertility planning or

775
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: family planning, because I think it just kind of saves

776
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: you a lot of stress down the line.

777
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reading this statistic and it was that

778
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: it was like forty eight million couples are struggling with

779
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: infertility around the world.

780
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: I was like, forty eight million.

781
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so that brings me back. That's what I

782
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 4: had a question about. Thank you the doctor in San

783
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: Diego who did the studies about the environment. What were

784
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: the findings, Like, is there somewhere we should live that

785
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: maybe we'd have better chances? Is it in the water, Well,

786
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: there's been studies about like fish in the stream that

787
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: are are like the streams that are being let out,

788
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: like because there's so many pharmaceuticals in this in those

789
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: like the water, there's definitely there's studies of fish turning

790
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: from like male to female.

791
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: I remember I remember hearing that.

792
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: So if that's happening to small you know, small animal like,

793
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: it's definitely changing our you know.

794
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and her findings really did show

795
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: that things from our environment really do impact our fertility,

796
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: especially especially in couples that present it as like subfertile.

797
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: So these are like people that are otherwise healthy, but

798
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: she can't really figure out why they can't get pregnant

799
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: or their markers are just a little bit below normal.

800
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: But it did show that it's not just right create

801
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: But no, but it was it was true. It was true.

802
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it, but no, it showed that, you know,

803
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: especially like plastics heavy metals, you know, mercury. All these

804
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: things really were impacting like the outcome of their treatment cycles.

805
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: And what she would do, which I thought was brilliant,

806
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: was that instead of saying like living a box, living

807
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: a cube, which is unrealistic, she would do like a

808
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: detoxification protocol, which was like a thousand dollars per person.

809
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: This is another privilege.

810
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: What's a detox vacation protocol?

811
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: And should we should we just be doing that once

812
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: a year just for learning an Americans.

813
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: In general often do you do it a year for

814
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: the detox?

815
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: And also is all this pollution? Is it population control?

816
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Wait? What is detox?

817
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: What did you call it?

818
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: It was a detoxification protocol that she would do.

819
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: Wait is it a vacation?

820
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Now? That was some good ass whatever.

821
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: That's not that's not that is a that's nelly, that's

822
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: some strong gas.

823
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: She can't hear. She's like, what is a vacation?

824
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: She said, a detox vacation protocol?

825
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say too, but your eyes

826
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: have been like gitting lower.

827
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: She passed it to me.

828
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: I was like, we need to put that out.

829
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: That was like, that's that's something for saying this feeling

830
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: like like fourteen she God, we might need to put

831
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: the rest of is on Patreo.

832
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, sorry, I'm awake.

833
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: I just I'm here in present.

834
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: I was just focusing on every syllable that you said.

835
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: It's just it's one word.

836
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Trufication, Like damn, what kind of it's a fast and

837
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: dollars right, and she heard.

838
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: But how long does that detoxification last? I mean, how

839
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: like is it once a year and then you're good?

840
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: You're like, or you have to do it many times?

841
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: Is it like a series of detoxification?

842
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing it over a six month period

843
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: because it was for research studies. So what we would

844
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: do is modify like the diet of course, so making

845
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: sure that you're having more cruciferous vegetables, which are just

846
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: like dark leafy vegetables that bind toxins and help you

847
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: excrete them. We would do like supplements to help you

848
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: also excrete, and then like sauna therapy too, super simple,

849
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: so not anything that was like very expensive, but because

850
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: she is the doctor, like using her time, it was expensive.

851
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: But what really stood out to me was how the

852
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: only people that could get it were people that could

853
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: afford that you know what I mean, Like, and there

854
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: aren't only white women or you know, other brown women

855
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: that need this care. There are other women that also

856
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: need to have this type of care. But who has

857
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: an extra thousand dollars.

858
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: To say, yeah, just detoxing from the air that I

859
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: have to bring.

860
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Just let me just see. You know, I don't know

861
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: if it'll work, but let me just see. And that's

862
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: why I really wanted to start the Fertility Advantage, to

863
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: just kind of start throwing shit out there because I knew, like, Okay,

864
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I can't see everybody at this clinic. I know people

865
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: don't want to pay this money, but how can I

866
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: get this information out to my girl? So I was like,

867
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start making posts about it, you know,

868
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: and I'll see if it helps. And you know a

869
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: lot of people start reaching out like, oh shit, that's

870
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: what was wrong with me, you know, or this small

871
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: little thing like helped make a big difference. So, you know,

872
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: to me, it's unrealistic to think that you can just

873
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: block yourself from everything, but you can like make small

874
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: little changes in your day to day to help like

875
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: optimize your chances and things like that.

876
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: What is your I guess maybe experience or knowledge on IVF,

877
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: because usually that's kind of like the next step after

878
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: you've decided that you know, conceiving you know, I don't.

879
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: I guess naturally is not in the cards for you.

880
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: And so you're now going into IVF And I have

881
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: had a friend, a distant friend that did it, So

882
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't really know like all the details, and I

883
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of it's almost like mystery around

884
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: what it is and the process and the like how

885
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: you feel throughout the process. So, yeah, what is your

886
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: knowledge on that?

887
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, So that was a big part of what

888
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: I did in my previous job or supported my supervisor

889
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: in that role, and that's what I do a lot now.

890
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing with IVF is that number one,

891
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: your insurance can cover it. So if you have been

892
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: trying to have if you have been trying to get

893
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: pregnant for a year and you've had no success, this

894
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: is like unprotected sex for a full year, that will

895
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: that would like classify you as infertile. What Yeah, so

896
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: basically that was infertile. I'm infertile, right, and that's under

897
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: thirty five. If you're over thirty five, it's six months

898
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: of unprotected sex, I'm infertile. Wait, if you're over thirty five,

899
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: it's six months of unprotected sex and not a successful pregnancy.

900
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 4: That would be Why does the window get shorter when

901
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 4: you get older.

902
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because, like again, as women were born with

903
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: all the eggs will ever have, and so at thirty five,

904
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: that's when researchers see that they start to see that decline.

905
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: So that's why they give you that six month window

906
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: to say like, oh, so you have you need to

907
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: go get tested.

908
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: Well yeah, basically, but that only gives you twelve times

909
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: to be like prove because right, because it's not like

910
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: today that you're not get pregnant, right, like yeah, like.

911
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Typically like a five day like fertile window. Okay, yeah yeah,

912
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: but typically the good thing is that oftentimes IVF can

913
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: be covered. And what a lot of people don't know

914
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: is that, yes, there are like one in eight couples

915
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: that suffer with infertility, but ninety percent of the cases

916
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: can be solved through science, so things like IVF and

917
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: so with IVF and that's just in vitul fertilization, what

918
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: they do, just like what your friend did, is that

919
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: they do put you on medication to really force your

920
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: body to create far more eggs than you would in

921
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: a cycle. And then they retrieve those eggs. They can

922
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: fertilize it with your partner sperm or a donor. You

923
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: don't have to have no man. They could fertilize each

924
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: egg with sperm and then it'll create embryos over the

925
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: course of like five days, and then you would actually

926
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: freeze the rest of the embryos and then transfer once

927
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: to your uterus. And then that's the entire process. It's

928
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: about twenty five k How.

929
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: Much is this, Yeah, and the transfer has to be

930
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 4: a certain like a certain day. You had to do

931
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: all they do all the shots, and then on a

932
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: certain special day then you go and then they put.

933
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: You to sleep, right exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So the cool

934
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: thing about IVF is that if you froze your eggs

935
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: in the past, you don't have to go through the

936
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: process again. You would just use the eggs you already froze, so.

937
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: You don't have to you don't have to go to

938
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: the process of first retrieving them and then implanting them.

939
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: You can just go ahead and and just for the implantation,

940
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: do you have to like give your administer yourself shots

941
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 4: to increase your chances.

942
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So with the shots, which is so important.

943
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: That's something that a lot of people don't really like

944
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: is that when you do the process of maturing your

945
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: eggs for retrieval, you do have to give yourself between

946
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: like one to four shots per day.

947
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot, and have to be refrigerated, so

948
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: if you're at work or something, have to be in

949
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: the refrigerator and it has to be the same time

950
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: every day.

951
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

952
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: So if you're driving, no matter what.

953
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: Your stomach, yes, stomach, it can be like stomach, thigh

954
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: or but yeah, and that's it's typically for like two weeks.

955
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: Some of the drugs are oral, most of them are injectable,

956
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, you do that for two weeks and then

957
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: after that that's when you get ready for the surgery.

958
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: So in your egg retrieval surgery, you are put to

959
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: sleep by an antisesiologists and while you're asleep, the doctor

960
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: actually uses needle aspiration to lightly suction each one of

961
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: your ovaries and then remove all of those eggs. You

962
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: are completely asleep, but it is as painful as it.

963
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: Sounds, go into your vagina and then they pierce.

964
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Through the wall on each side with a needle with

965
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: a needle.

966
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and so then I'm sorry. Then what happens

967
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: They retrieve the eggs.

968
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: So they go through the vaginal wall and say there

969
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: on the left side. There, they're pierce through the left

970
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: vaginal wall. Then they'll pierce through your ovary. And then

971
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: what's really cool is your ovaries have these little follicles

972
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: in them, and the follicles are just like little tiny

973
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: fluid filled sacks that contain your eggs. And then the

974
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: needles just go in and suction each egg so they

975
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: get all of them from one side, go back in,

976
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: pierce through the other side. How can they see do

977
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: the same thing again? So yeah, it's all under ultrasound guidance,

978
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: so they know where they are when.

979
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: They're and then so once those eggs are gone, they

980
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: then and they then insert the fertilized eggs.

981
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: Right, Is that how it works?

982
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Right, So they'll retrieve all the eggs and then there's

983
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: an embryologist in the room at the same time, so

984
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: they'll be like a doctor like right here or surgeon.

985
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 1: Then the embryol just will be right behind them because

986
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: they have to pass those eggs to them, and then

987
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: what they'll do is they'll take them to a lab

988
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: fertilize it with sperm immediately, and then over the course

989
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: of five days, little embryos or little babies start to develop,

990
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: and that's what you freeze. And that's what you freeze.

991
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and most people transfer one of them fresh,

992
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: so it typically takes five days for them to develop.

993
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: And then most people will transfer one fresh or some

994
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: people will freeze them and then send it off for

995
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: like further genetic testing, so you can like test it

996
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: to see if it has genetic mutations or chromosomal abnormalities.

997
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: You can see if it's a girl or boy, all

998
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: types of things. And then you and so when you

999
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: are so I didn't realize this.

1000
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: So when you have in vitro, you're actually implanting, I guess,

1001
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: and already.

1002
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Started up started up, ye, I don't know why.

1003
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: I mean five days, I didn't know, Like, I don't

1004
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: know why.

1005
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: Because it's bigger, so it's easier to implant, yeah, to retreat,

1006
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: like to because it's a little bit easier to bigger

1007
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: to work with exactly.

1008
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: I have a question.

1009
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: When you peer through the vaginal wall to retrieve the

1010
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: eggs and then have to rego back to fertilize it.

1011
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: What is that? Is that not?

1012
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean I can imagine that's not great for the

1013
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: uterarian wall?

1014
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so the vaginal wall. Most people will say

1015
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: they feel like like vaginal pain, cramping and bleeding. But

1016
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: the doctor doesn't have to go beyond your cervix, so

1017
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: they're not in your uterus. They're kind of still in

1018
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: your vaginal canal. So luckily they don't go through your

1019
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: cervix into your uterus.

1020
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: Okay, because like the ovaries on these sides, right, so

1021
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: it's kind of like going off to the diagonal, not

1022
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: going exactly right, so.

1023
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Make a curt of left right here, yeah, right, yeah.

1024
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: Right exactly instead of going And that's why it's piercing

1025
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: because there's tissue okay.

1026
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they had to go through the cervix,

1027
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: it would be a much longer recovery.

1028
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: What are the chances of you not being able to

1029
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: retrieve the eggs, like going under this procedure and then

1030
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: it not being able to that's real?

1031
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like is that a possibility?

1032
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

1033
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: And what's the like statistic on that?

1034
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: Is it high?

1035
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1036
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: So it's typically higher for women that are closer to forty.

1037
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: But the good thing is that that's why that testing

1038
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: is so important, because sometimes when you do the testing,

1039
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: the doctor can say, Okay, I'm gonna be honest, we

1040
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of eggs on ultrasound. That's the

1041
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: only way they can see them at first. It's through

1042
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: a transvaginal ultrasound. So they'll say, we only can see

1043
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: about four eggs. So it's highly likely that when we

1044
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: go in for the surgery, we only retrieve immature eggs.

1045
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: And you have to start from the beginning. That does

1046
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: happen quite often, honestly. So that's another twenty.

1047
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: Five k You got to start from the beginning, Oh,

1048
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: because that's you don't get to try twice.

1049
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why my feminement it's also really important that

1050
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: you go to a good doctor, because you know a

1051
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: good doctor is going to make sure that they're doing

1052
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: everything in their power in the in the like right

1053
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: before the surgery, like asking you to come in every

1054
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: other day to test your eggs and see the consistency.

1055
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: Because she said she knows people who will take that

1056
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: money and not have made it the best chances and

1057
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: the best eggs possible because maybe they don't want to

1058
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: meet you every other day or whatever it is.

1059
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: They're part of the process.

1060
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: You have to do that.

1061
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's this is why these conversations are important, because

1062
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: you may not know you're just giving over this money

1063
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: it's expecting. Yeah, duh, you would do that if you

1064
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: know you can. But some people, you know, if you

1065
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: don't know the questions to ask, you don't fuck it. Hell,

1066
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: and so you should. You know, that's somebody. It's good

1067
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: to vet your doctors, and it's good for us to

1068
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: have these conversations and not feel shame around them because

1069
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 4: this is the only way we'll find out. I literally

1070
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: only know this because she told me.

1071
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: I only know this because of this conversation. Yeah, that's

1072
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: why I'm going through a range of emotions because.

1073
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm like what, huh, huh what?

1074
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: And it gives you like I feel like so many

1075
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: people don't know that, Like science really does help solve

1076
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: ninety percent of cases of infertility, and so many people

1077
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: don't know that. And I think especially black women, like

1078
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: we were talking about before the show, like there's so

1079
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: much shame around like oh I can't do it myself.

1080
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: That means something is wrong with me, And it doesn't

1081
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: mean that anything is wrong with you. It just means

1082
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: that you might need a little bit of help. Your

1083
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: story might just look a little bit different, but it's

1084
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: still normal. I think sometimes it's like, oh, I can't

1085
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: have a baby the normal way, and there is no

1086
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: normal way to have a baby. Like whatever way you

1087
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: have to take is your way. And sometimes IVF is

1088
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: that way, or IUI or serrogracy or adoption. I think

1089
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: sometimes people don't want to like expand their definitions of

1090
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: motherhood and so they just feel very limited, you know.

1091
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, what do you think about like using like

1092
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: homeopathic medicines for infertility? Is that I mean, and I

1093
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: hear you say that the science is ninety percent effective.

1094
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: There's people out there that are like, I'm not I

1095
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: don't want to get my eggs injected. I don't want

1096
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: to do this, I don't want to do that. Is

1097
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: that also in your opinion?

1098
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: Obviously?

1099
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: I think yes, with science, you it's there's one thing

1100
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: between putting a whole needle up inside your ovaries sucking

1101
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: some shit out versus eating well and taking certain herbs

1102
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. You know, obviously, like

1103
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: science is what we were talking about urgency and efficiency.

1104
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: Urgency. Everything is urgency.

1105
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: Urgency versus nature's medicine is going to take some fucking time.

1106
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: But have you seen women in your practice, like I

1107
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: guess go that route or like try to marry the

1108
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: two or what does that look like?

1109
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how I got into the space is

1110
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: marrying the two. I think marrying the two is important

1111
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: because you want to have the appropriate testing done to

1112
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: see if it's even a possibility. So I think, first

1113
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: if you know that your hormones are okay, and doctors

1114
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: also need to do that transpagion ultrasound to see how

1115
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: many follicles you have on each side, you want to

1116
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: make sure there's no fibroids or polyps like blocking the

1117
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: place that the baby would try to implant. You want

1118
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: to do like testing to make sure your fallopian tubes

1119
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: aren't blocked. I think once you know that those things

1120
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: are okay, then you want to try to incorporate more

1121
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: like you know, like you said, homeopathy or naturopathic medicine

1122
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: or functional medicine. I think those things are important, but

1123
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: as a naturopathic doctor, I'm still saying it. I think

1124
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: you still want to know that you're okay first, because

1125
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: you would hate to be eating eight cups of broccoli

1126
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: and Filippian tubes are blocked. Why did I just eat

1127
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: on this broccoli.

1128
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: It's not gonna it's not changing. That's not going to

1129
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: do the true.

1130
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, when when your eggs are traveling

1131
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: down at Filippian tube, the sperm has to get through

1132
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: to meet the egg and create that embryo. So if

1133
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: your tubes are blocked, no amount of nutrition is gonna

1134
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: reverse that. So I think like marrying the two to

1135
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: me is so important, especially as we get well into

1136
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: our thirties.

1137
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: And understanding like identifying exactly what may or may not

1138
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: could be the travel but instead of aimlessly just like

1139
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: I'll be fine eating drinking herbs. Yeah yeah, so yeah,

1140
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: I says thirty five your old women? Do you like

1141
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: if you ideally had an age for women to start

1142
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: during this process? But would be your suggestion?

1143
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say thirty five. I think like thirty.

1144
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: I think when you get thirty and you're maybe you're

1145
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: not partnered at thirty, but you know you o a family.

1146
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: I would say this is a good time to say,

1147
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: you know what, let me just get this testing done,

1148
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: because the initial testing is not that expensive, Like the

1149
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: initial testing is typically between like one fifty to three

1150
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, and that's like even like Beverly Hills. I

1151
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: feel like the most expensive place I saw here was

1152
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: like four seventy five and that includes like the imaging,

1153
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: the blood tests, and so some people think it's really

1154
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: expensive and it's not. And sometimes your insurance will even

1155
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: even identify that as preventive care. So having that testing done,

1156
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: even your obguim might do it, so then that way

1157
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: it's covered. But I think at thirty, if you're like, Okay,

1158
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: these niggas is trash. I don't have nobody I really like,

1159
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: but I know I want a family. Let me make

1160
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: sure I'm good so that when I am ready, you know,

1161
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm good to go, rather than just kind of waiting

1162
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it out, you know and unfortunately having a harder time

1163
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: in the future.

1164
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I guess that.

1165
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dc.

1166
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: Have you seen a lot more women decide to take

1167
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: agency over there, you know, their family planning, you know,

1168
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: even in single like single I know, like the more

1169
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: women be professionals and you know, it's just more, it's

1170
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: more you know people are doing it more.

1171
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like most of my calls are

1172
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: single parent family building, which I think is so fire Like,

1173
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing because sometimes we rush into relationships

1174
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: that we know might not be great because we're like,

1175
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I really need to have a baby. You're not my choice,

1176
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: but I really want to have a baby. And I

1177
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: love that single parent family building allows you to say like,

1178
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a baby. I really want a baby,

1179
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and have a baby, and

1180
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: if I meet someone, great, but if not, I still

1181
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: have the family that I want. So I do see

1182
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: far more white women doing it then I see black women.

1183
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if that's just the demo

1184
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: at my job, you know, but I do see a

1185
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: lot more women taking agencies. There's so many, like Facebook

1186
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: groups of women building communities all around, building families by themselves.

1187
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: And you can literally do that by finding a sperm

1188
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: donor somebody you know who you cool with, or you know,

1189
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: actually going to a donor agency and finding someone and

1190
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: you can do like inter uterine insemination or at home

1191
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: insemination just to start your own family and it's not

1192
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: as expensive.

1193
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: Man, I think that I hope that.

1194
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: My hope is that a woman that makes that choice

1195
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: is getting her tribal in line. I really hope so,

1196
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: because yes, it's it's I understand this, and I have

1197
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: the privilege of having a child, so like I can

1198
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: sit here and say this right, and I'm aware of that.

1199
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 3: But I think also because I have one, I really

1200
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: understand how important It's not just the want and need

1201
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: to have a child, but like, do you have the

1202
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: community in place, the circle in place to help support

1203
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: and raise that child and support yourself because this shit

1204
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: is not meant to be a one person job. It

1205
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: really truly isn't, you know. And so do you have

1206
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: like other like men or whatever and your family that

1207
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: are going to step up and be and hopeful be

1208
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 3: that obviously ship listen, people have partners and it doesn't

1209
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: work out and they're you know, out here alone as well.

1210
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 3: But I will say, if you have the luxury of

1211
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: even going through this process like it, get your tribee.

1212
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: This is not this is not a one person job,

1213
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 4: like for real, like at all, like honestly, like having

1214
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: a boyfriend.

1215
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: I realized that I'm like, you know, if you could

1216
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: have like if you can have the most ideal situation.

1217
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: That is the about It doesn't mean like you have

1218
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: to have a nigga, but just like make sure you.

1219
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: Have people who are going to show up for you

1220
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 4: and the like. Have you like give you breaks because

1221
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: you need to have other people like a lot of

1222
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: other people.

1223
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: You need real you need that God mean about three

1224
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: godmoms to god dads, two grandparents, your parents?

1225
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's important.

1226
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: What about you? Like personally? What is what is I mean?

1227
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: Do you have you frozen your eggs? Like?

1228
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: Is this something? Have you gotten your eggs tested?

1229
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: Like?

1230
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 3: You get a discount because you're working this shit?

1231
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Can you discount code? We'll put it on Patreon exclusively.

1232
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: Checked. Can we get a discount click this link in

1233
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: an episode of description you could get a discount on

1234
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: You'll get your eggs check.

1235
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: We got anx check. How about you when you say good.

1236
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: Moms, watch now the ad is going to be fed

1237
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: to my fucking phone.

1238
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Because there's so many, so many at home tests too.

1239
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: But my employer covers it. Okay, yeah, so that's the

1240
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: only reason I'm able to do it. But it is

1241
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: something I have to do this year. I was putting

1242
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: it off, I'm like, Okay, so you haven't done it yet.

1243
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet, but my goal is to

1244
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: do it this year. I prefer to do it at

1245
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: home in Georgia where like my mom and sister are

1246
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: just so I have support throughout the process and after

1247
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: my surgery, because you do have to have someone there

1248
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: with you after the surgery. But it is definitely something

1249
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: I want to do because I do want to have

1250
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: a family, and I just don't know when it's going

1251
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: to happen.

1252
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think that I was

1253
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: just thinking, like God, I mean, either way it's gonna

1254
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: it's It can be challenging whether you're partnered or not.

1255
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: I mean, and it doesn't necessarily even if you're partnered,

1256
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: me and that person's going to show up the way

1257
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: that you want them to anyway.

1258
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that can sometimes be more devastating. You're in

1259
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: the house with someone that you don't feel supported by,

1260
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 4: sleeping next to someone you don't feel supported by, and

1261
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: the resentment, you know, that agitation grows.

1262
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, And I think like

1263
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: having a choice, I think that's what to me, that's

1264
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: what I see egg freezing as it's like giving like

1265
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: giving yourself agency to say, like, you know what, I

1266
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: might not use these eggs. I actually might you know,

1267
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: meet somebody, get pregnant, not need them. But I want

1268
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: to have the choice, you know what I mean, in

1269
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: the future, and I get to see it in my

1270
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: everyday life, so I know that it's a very real

1271
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: thing that I have to pay attention to. But yeah,

1272
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: to me, just making sure that I am set up

1273
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: in the future if I do need it.

1274
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for all this information. I

1275
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: feel a lot more educated on it and feel like

1276
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: I need to dive almost deeper. I'm like, I need

1277
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: to see a picture of these little implants multiple on

1278
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: Google and weird deep divers. Yeah, I want to see

1279
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 3: the surgery, like I want to see like there's got

1280
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: to be some videos.

1281
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: Well for sure, I can. I can imagine it in

1282
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 4: my head, like I want to.

1283
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many. Yeah, I want to know.

1284
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 4: Okay, one last question. Okay, do black women over thirty

1285
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: five have a higher chance of having multiples?

1286
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: Ooh, good questions?

1287
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: A fact.

1288
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: I saw it as a fact, that's what I'm asking.

1289
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I haven't seen that, but but

1290
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: I do know with certain procedures, certain things you do

1291
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: do increase your risk of multiple So like if you

1292
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: were to do like inter uter insemination at a clinic,

1293
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: so that's where they just like inject the sperm through

1294
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: your cervix, that does increase your risk of multiples. But

1295
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it like a black women specifically.

1296
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: I saw I saw a statistic that black women have

1297
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: higher chance like you, no, like, like our chances of

1298
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 4: having multiples after thirty five are like increased significantly.

1299
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: And nobody got time for that, now, ain't nobody at

1300
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: the time.

1301
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: Orlando's mom's a twin.

1302
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh face.

1303
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: I'm so thankful that you came and we got to

1304
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: ask all these millions of question.

1305
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I appreciate you for just inviting me. You

1306
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: have such a beautiful community, and I think it's important

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Speaker 1: just for them to know, like you have options and

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Speaker 1: you can build a life however you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Yeah, and thank.

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Speaker 1: You for the work that you do.

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Speaker 3: Can you telling people? Actually no, wait, do you have

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Speaker 3: an afermation?

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Speaker 1: She told me to bring She told me to bring one.

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00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I had to, but I'll stick with being me is

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Speaker 1: how I win.

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Speaker 4: Being me is how I win. That's a fact.

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Speaker 3: How I when yes, we pulled a tarot card.

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Speaker 1: I saw her reading from poor minds like a friend

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Speaker 1: is about to betray you. Oh, don't let me pull that.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 4: Let you check in on her.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

1323
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: I just saw her.

1324
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: She looked she was on vacation. She looked perfectly.

1325
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: Fine, fine, as fine as Miami I was.

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Speaker 1: But take me with you.

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Speaker 2: I'll be your girlfriend, right, I told dress.

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: If it don't work out, we'll be together.

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Speaker 4: Is not lesbian? Who do we need to do a

1330
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Speaker 4: double like as situation? Oh my god. The nine of

1331
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 4: ones means resilience, courage, persistent.

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Speaker 1: Wait, this guy looks fucked.

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Speaker 4: Up accounting it is rnine. He does look like he

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Speaker 4: had to be resilient. He has like a cloth on

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Speaker 4: his head. Test of face and boundaries. Good, that's what

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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 1: Perfect boundaries.

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Speaker 3: I forgot it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, boundaries.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Bitty Taro that has been teaching us

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Speaker 4: Taro for two years. Nine of Wands. The nine of

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01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: Wands comes as a sign that even in the face

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Speaker 4: of adversity, you stand tall and strong. You may be

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: on the edge of exhaustion, but you are resilient, persistent,

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: and ready to do what it takes to get to

1347
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: the finish line. This card may also come when you

1348
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: feel battered and bruised, having endured significant challenges and struggles

1349
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 4: along your path. Just when you think you are making progress,

1350
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: you suffer another setback. The nine of wants asks you

1351
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: to trust that this is merely a test of your

1352
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: grit and resilience, and know that every time you overcome

1353
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 4: an obstacle, you are getting stronger. You have the inner

1354
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: resources necessary to overcome any difficult any difficulty you encounter,

1355
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 4: even though it may seem impossible at the time. See

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01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 4: this nine as an insurance that you will eventually asper

1357
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Speaker 4: if you maintain your position. And if you do not

1358
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 4: succeed at first, then try again.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's the word.

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Speaker 3: That I should don't succeed, that's that's yourself up and

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: try again.

1362
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Speaker 2: Get up.

1363
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: I heard sorry, I couldn't resist. I couldn't They said it.

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Speaker 3: They said the lyrics right there, the lyrics right there.

1365
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Speaker 3: Receive that, Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, thank you for coming

1366
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Speaker 3: on our show. I appreciate you again. I appreciate all

1367
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 3: the work that you do. I think that it's really

1368
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: important for black women to see other black women doing

1369
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: the work that you do and making and normalizing it

1370
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: and making destigmatizing this idea around infertility and that you

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: don't have options and that there's something wrong with you

1372
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: and that you won't be able to experience motherhood.

1373
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: If that's what you show, so true. So I appreciate.

1374
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate all that you do. Thank you.

1375
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: Can you tell the people where they can find you?

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01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So you can find me on Instagram at

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: the Fertility Advantage Twitter, Raquel Hammond's and my YouTube is

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Speaker 1: what the Fertility, What the Fertility?

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so subscribe to her YouTube, describe to our YouTube.

1381
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Speaker 3: Get on YouTube right now, and uh, we'll see you

1382
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: guys next week.

1383
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see October twenty first show.

1384
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Speaker 3: Right.

1385
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, guys, we're having a live show.

1386
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 4: On October twenty first in LA at the Telegram ball

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Speaker 4: Does that know Terogram Teagram Ballroom. I'm gonna have them

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Speaker 4: at the Telegram if it is the last thing I

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Speaker 4: do know where it is the Teogram Ballroom. Come get

1390
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: ratchet with us. It's Confessions of a Good Mom And yeah,

1391
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Speaker 4: see you guys later.

1392
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Speaker 2: We got high.

1393
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: Bye bye.

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Speaker 4: Seven percent in my ass.

1395
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Speaker 1: She played joll.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like loss go yeah. Ellen j solo ball

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