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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Bunts, the show for the casual baseball

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Speaker 2: fan on the Athletic Network, from your sports loving friends

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Speaker 2: at No Dunks and the biggest Timmy Trumpet fans. There

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Speaker 2: are Timmy Trumpet bringing trumpets to sports stadiums near you. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna know that man's name very soon. With me

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Speaker 2: the baseball lov and Trey Kirby. He hey, hey, oh,

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Speaker 2: lavin the glove. That's that sweet sweet leather you're going

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: You know it, got to bring a baseball glove to

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Speaker 1: a baseball podcast. You never know when they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: hitting one outside the lines.

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Speaker 2: You always got to be ready. You see all these

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Speaker 2: new stadiums. Balls hitting out of the stadiums these days.

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Speaker 1: Balls hitting out of the stadiums these days. I want

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Speaker 2: Could be rolling up here to the Classic Factor as

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Speaker 2: the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 3: JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello, But it's not just us. Our friend Kelly Dwyer

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Speaker 2: is with us. Kelly there he is, there, he is.

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Speaker 3: There is time to look at the camera.

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Speaker 2: Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I was checking the alignment on this Gibson E. S.

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Speaker 2: Got yell yeah you you came on the zoom and

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Speaker 2: we heard some tasty licks happen in there can't.

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Speaker 1: There's are you're playing now. We can only see your shoulders,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of unknown where the licks are actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny because you could you can hear

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Speaker 2: that beauty, the gentle sounds of KD ripping on that thing.

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Speaker 2: Ripping is the wrong word.

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Speaker 3: There's rips, those rolls, the shreds, shreds.

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Speaker 2: I'm shreds Kelly Dwyer with us. Of course you know

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Speaker 2: him from a basketball lore from the Second Arrangement, which

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Speaker 2: you should be subscribed to. Of course, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say the Second Arrangement email that I get is my

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Speaker 2: is always a good read. So I appreciate you making

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you on behalf of

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Speaker 3: all of this listeners for giving us another awesome podcast

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Speaker 4: Gay.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to pop in some baseball packs with

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Speaker 2: you a little bit later. But you were just at

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Speaker 2: a baseball game, so please tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: Kelly, my wife and I went to a consume Detroit

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Speaker 3: I am not a Reds fan. I am a Cardinals fan.

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Speaker 3: this game was in Cincinnati. Just it was in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: They're way ahead in the NL Central. And Kelly, you

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Speaker 3: my cup to there. Weren't there that many there the

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Speaker 2: And you're going solo, solo, bolo on this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's time. You know that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to pick the music. Just just ride yourself.

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Speaker 3: Nice seven in September. That's going to be beautiful. Come on, yeh,

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's going to be great. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 2: Because you got a circle what the person did before you?

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Speaker 2: second arrangement and what you do? Uh with your your performance?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: What can I ask? Go ahead? Go ahead? You're gonna

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Speaker 3: Also, Phil Rizzutto had a w W also, which he

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Speaker 2: That's Baseball.

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Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time at the Saber biographical channel.

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Speaker 3: I you know, there's not so much to do in

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Speaker 1: Toldby I got obsessed in the past week watching baseball

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Speaker 2: Well, that is very very rude. That's probably why I

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Speaker 2: Ball really throws you off. Anyways, we still haven't talked

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Speaker 2: about Albert Poolholes. You you slipped in there that you

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Speaker 2: I mean, Albert, he let me let me, let me

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Speaker 3: I'm offended. The power of expansion is real in our generation.

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Speaker 3: We need to accept it, just because some of us

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Speaker 3: that's not expansion's fault. Yes, that's good. Four fifteen, that's

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Speaker 3: that's incredible, that's that's that's a whole NBA. I love that.

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing for that. Come on, if you

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Speaker 3: when this guy was coming up, and it's still happening

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole NBA, as you said, So my

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Speaker 2: with expansion, with all these position players pitching, that Kelly

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Speaker 2: Stark on The Athletic MLB. She'll say, it's the most

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Speaker 2: That's not a record that well, yeah, it's not a record,

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Speaker 2: but it's a record. Position players are pitching more than

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Speaker 3: Way, no, it'd be like one guy and it'd be

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Speaker 2: They can say, yeah, now, almost one hundred this year.

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Speaker 2: Ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too many. I'm with Jason Stark on this one.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. But that's just there.

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Speaker 3: All jocks, they can handle it. That guy came up

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Speaker 3: that's good for him, good for him.

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Speaker 2: You're right, they're jocks. There was some guy I think

434
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: it was on the Rays or somebody that he was

435
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 2: a starting catcher and then he ended up pitching and

436
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 2: they won the game.

437
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, gotta win.

438
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 3: And now he plays for the CFL team. It's you know,

439
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: it's there. They can handle this.

440
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 2: Is there an NBA equivalent to this fake record record?

441
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the NBA is so boring with it's

442
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: with it's like twenty a game in someone's face. No,

443
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 3: that's there's nothing like a dinger. Guys, there's there's you know,

444
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: the closest you could come up with is you know,

445
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: like Vince Harder may have crammed on you know, forty

446
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: two different starting centers over the course which of the

447
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: twenty two years, you know, something like that, or the

448
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 3: you know, the combined war of the power forwards that

449
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: he threw down over, or the you know, the the

450
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 3: small forwards that the Kobe shot fadeaways. No, no, it's

451
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: it's nothing, nothing top stingers. It's a unique and pastoral exercise.

452
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: And I had shudder to compare it to anything outside

453
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 3: of maybe the time that Jordan got all three Georgetown

454
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: centers and then wave the finger.

455
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: To can Base's face.

456
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: So I guess, I guess three is the equivalent Alonso

457
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: Patrick and to Cam Bates of the four hundred and

458
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: fifty pitchers.

459
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: I guess you weren't anywhere near the right field bleachers

460
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: when Poohols put it over the fence.

461
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: No, but that, you know, that's what he does. He

462
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: goes inside out and this stuff he just u you know, gosh,

463
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: he's and he's been doing it for two decades. I'm

464
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: recalling being it at the Uker seats into the two

465
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: thousand and four playoffs and going, how can anyone hit

466
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 3: a home run? Because I'm facing him as he's as

467
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: he's teeing off on that left foot and grinding in

468
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: and digging in in the weirdest way, and just wondering

469
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: how anyone can can even manage a baseball swing with

470
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: that stance. And then he turns inside out on a

471
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: Houston Astro something or other and goes to four hundred

472
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: and I believe it was two to three thousand feet

473
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: with that home run that I'm recalling. I didn't see

474
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: the leg one, but yeah, he's he's just he's a marvel.

475
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: He's this this this you know, this big fellow that

476
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: can just turn in inside out on this stuff. And

477
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: and uh and uh, giggle his way through through another

478
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: season and then retire out of nowhere. I hope.

479
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's done.

480
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: He's done. He's done. He's done. But you know what

481
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 3: if there wasn't all left hander league? What if we

482
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: got that going in all Southpaw you know, sort of

483
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: situation that I'd watched that I'd pay ten bucks to

484
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 3: go see that they'd open up for minor league teams

485
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: or something like that. It's be I've seen a six

486
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: three hundred basketball league or six six and hundred whatever

487
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: that was. I should be able to see a left

488
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 3: handed league.

489
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: Okay, but he's at six hundred and ninety four home

490
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: runs right now. Only three players in an MLB history

491
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: have hit seven hundred or more. Pool also has been

492
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a tear in the past month.

493
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: He's been raking, he's been cranking, but six home runs

494
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: in about thirty games. Katie, you think it's possible that

495
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: he gets the seven hundred this year or is he

496
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: going to get to like six ninety eight, come back

497
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: for a few played appearances next year, get over the

498
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: big seven hundred.

499
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: If any city would welcome that, it would be the

500
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 3: same Lewis Cardinal thing. He blessed our April with seventy two.

501
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: He added one sixty, but he got those two other

502
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 3: home runs, and yeah, he could pull that off. But

503
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: they could also keep throwing lefties at him. We're at

504
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: the ballpark the other night, is I got. I hope

505
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: they leave this leftiand Honey, we got to hurry up

506
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: and get these beers back to the seat. Honey, we

507
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: got pools Is coming up. He may you know, and

508
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: they didn't. But geez, that's that's what he does. He

509
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: just it's it's when you least expected. None of us

510
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: thought he'd be anywhere near this goodness. I thought he'd

511
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: be Okay. I didn't mind the signing, especially for the price.

512
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: You know, I would prefer a better day to day player,

513
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: but yeah, to have someone with a double digit or

514
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: whatever it is, ops against lefties, just hanging out on

515
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: the bench setting records for fifty record.

516
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: You love stats. Ops, you're dropping ops here on the show.

517
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: But the numbers are the numbers are I have to

518
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: say it. I have to say these numbers because as

519
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: you as you said, he's so good against lefties and

520
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: so poopy against Righty's he's batting three eighty seven old

521
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: school average there for you, but slugging eight oh six

522
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: for an ops of one point two three one, So

523
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: nearly four hundred against left handers and an eight hundred

524
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: slugging percentage, which is absolutely ridiculous. So if ever, if

525
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: there wasn't all lefties league, he would be the star attraction.

526
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: But against righty he's only hitting one ninety four, and yeah,

527
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: there's just a lot more righties than lefties. So he

528
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: will be out there in the playoffs against lefties, and

529
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of DH rule as well. You get

530
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: one more good hitter and Albert Poohls he's streaking good hitter.

531
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: He's streaking for seven hundred, but he's going to hang

532
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: him up, so I don't know if he's going to

533
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: get there. I don't know if he's going to get there.

534
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: It'd be cool, though, if he gets the seven hundred

535
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: homers and Judge also hits over sixty, like that's a

536
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: throwback to the nineties, people mashing more dingers than you're expecting.

537
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: But Poohle is not the only Cardinals legend set to

538
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: retire this season. I think Yadie Molina and Adam Wayne

539
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Wright as well. Katie, are you trying to go to

540
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: as many as many of these games as you possibly

541
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: can just because these guys are around for the last time.

542
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd go to it anyway ten buck ticket. But yeah, yeah,

543
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: he's a baseball player ever like ever ever ever. Yeah,

544
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: he's supplanted Eric Davis. So yeah, it is, it is,

545
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: you know, I just I love watching him And to have,

546
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, your favorite baseball player leave his team in

547
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 3: the middle of the season to go root on his

548
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 3: favorite his basketball team that he owns. I mean, of

549
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: course that's my favorite player at times a thousand. That

550
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: only cemented this legends late see in my eyes, Yeah,

551
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: Wayne wayIn Wright, he's Wayne O seventy two mile an

552
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: hour curveball. You know, come on, you know it's coming,

553
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: but it's dropping in and it's ridiculous how he gets

554
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: away with it. But I'm happy to watch it. So

555
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: another autumn. Yeah, we're very blessed. And yeah, ya, Yaddy's

556
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: just the champion, He's just the absolute, He's the I'm

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: gonna be there in Cooperstown. I hope to make it

558
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: another five years and drive the hatchback safely up to

559
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: I've never been there, but I'm definitely going for to

560
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: visit his enshrinement.

561
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: It is kind of rare to be able to tow

562
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: the line between, like you're saying, Arnatto and Goldschmid are

563
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: like in the prime of their careers, a couple of

564
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: the best players in the league right now, but you

565
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: also have legends retiring. It's kind of spursy the way

566
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: like they're able to kind of toe the line between

567
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: these two Eras you said, you've been watching the Cardinals

568
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: forever since the eighties as long as I can remember,

569
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: They've had incredible first basement. So rank these Cardinals first baseman,

570
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Kelly Mark McGuire legend, Albert Poohols legend, Paul Goldschmidt current legend.

571
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: Okay, first, I want to say Jack Clark is last.

572
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: Whichever we're doing. Yeah, we're gonna put Poohle's first, by

573
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: a lot. McGuire was fun. He was like, there was

574
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: one home run every seven point eight at bats. That

575
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: is that's pretty gnarly. The late nineties were a trip, kids.

576
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: But then you know Goldsmith's defense. Watching him that first year,

577
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: we knew he could play defensively, but that was just outstanding.

578
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: Consistency range. You don't have to worry about anything. Just

579
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: he's only going to throw the pass if it's going

580
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: to be complete. It's one of those situations. He's not

581
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: going to overplay on things in terms of you know,

582
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: balls bouncing and stuff like that. He's not going to

583
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: lose his mind out there. Things don't go wrong. He's

584
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: just a tremendous defensive player. In the fact that if

585
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: he was two sixty this year and twenty home runs,

586
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: I'd be like, this guy's the greatest. I can't believe

587
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: he's a cardinal. I'm so happy just because I'm a

588
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: defense guy. So so yeah, we're gonna go Albert Paul

589
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: and then I'm you know, a little old big neck

590
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: there number at number three.

591
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: Some great names.

592
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean I got one too, you know, socking Dingers too,

593
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: so it you know, it happens. So that's all of

594
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: us mixed.

595
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're listening, Uh, Kelly Dwyer just gave a

596
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: next shimmy he's got he's got to show my YadA

597
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 2: Molina to next tat.

598
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I took it off. I'm sorry. It's temporary.

599
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: I only work for the games.

600
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, just to reiterate. Yadi Air Molina is an

601
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: owner of a basketball team in Puerto Rico, and he

602
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: left the Cardinals for two games because he wanted to

603
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: see his Puerto Rican team in the finals and respect, yeah,

604
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: he was. He cleared it with ownership, with management. He said, yeah,

605
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gone for a couple of days. And obviously

606
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: he's got that respect. So he took off and he

607
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: came back and they won.

608
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: So a pretty much championship.

609
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: The yeah, I guess the Puerto Rican League. Yeah, yeah,

610
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: the championship. Yeah, so that is that is extremely cool.

611
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: A couple other cool things because baseball is about little

612
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: names and stats. You just I like how you just

613
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: dropped the the Albert, the Paul, the first names. I

614
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: got another name for. Yeah, maddox. I know Trey's a

615
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: big Braves fan. What is pitching a maddox? What's a maddox?

616
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: Guys?

617
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: Because it was recently done. What is a maddox? It

618
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: was recently done by the Cardinals. Jordan Montgomery.

619
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: The complete game.

620
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Shoutout, complete game under a hundred pitches, under a hundred pitches.

621
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it has to be under hundred pitches because

622
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: mister Greg Maddox didn't go anyway.

623
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: You have to wear glasses during your postgame interview.

624
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I was always like, is that Greg Maddocks or Matthew

625
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: broaderick out there? Especially when you throw on the glasses.

626
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: I also remember one time Madox got hit by a

627
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: foul ball in the dugout and he had like seams

628
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: on his face. Those were like that and the chicks

629
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: dig the long balls commercial are like the coolest things

630
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Greg Maddox ever did.

631
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. They're They're like, oh yeah, they're round glasses.

632
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like wire rim glasses.

633
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had it all man, sticking on the pitching front.

634
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: Albert Poolhols six on ninety four Homers, four hundred and

635
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: fifty different pictures. Can you name the five Hall of

636
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Fame pictures that are already in the Hall of Fame

637
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: that he homered off of because he got Pooles Pools, Yeah,

638
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: five Hall of Fame pictures that he homered off of

639
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: for store too.

640
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with cy Young takes a lot. Look, Okay,

641
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: so what what recent.

642
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Think of pictures that are in the Hall of Fame?

643
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: Halliday Halliday is not one of them, surprisingly, but it

644
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: was a good guess, A good guess.

645
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't know any of the recent two thousand air.

646
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: I guess Maddix would be one of the two thousand

647
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: ARA pitchers that are in like the Hall of Fame

648
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: but not really great with a lot of them even earlier,

649
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: even earlier.

650
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: This poohol has been around so long, go back really

651
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: think ninety So he got Bob.

652
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: Tewkesbury, Did he get Jamie? Jamie Moyer is not a

653
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. I think I know I'm really letting

654
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: down this one. You know, if I if Lee were here,

655
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: you could help me out with Dale Ellis trip.

656
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm in big unit, the big unit.

657
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: He hit one off Randy Johnson.

658
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: N I mix up the Diamondbacks and the Colorado Rockies

659
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: as well, Kelly, but he wasn't are I mean, I'm

660
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: in back for a while. I always think of him

661
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: as a Mariner, But yeah, he was in the Diamondback

662
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: so because there wasn't an inter league playback then Bulls

663
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: in the National League, so yeah there was. It's mostly well,

664
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: there's two more National League guys, so smultzy, very well done.

665
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: One nationally guy who was a reliever, and then one

666
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: guy he got an interleague play.

667
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: How about some.

668
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: Nationally reliever you got to relieve? Because I just that's

669
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: more of a two thousands, big lefty, big closer entrance song.

670
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: The Trevor Hoffman felt, Trevor Hoffman felt, and then he

671
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: got one by a guy who shares a nickname with

672
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: NBA players. I think there's multiple players with this NBA nickname,

673
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: not great players. Don't sneak a look over here.

674
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: A junkyard dog in the NBA or in the m LP.

675
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: I already said Simpson, he probably was.

676
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: He played on the same team as CC Sabbath, as

677
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: you mentioned, not the same era. No, No, very close

678
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: to Pettit, very close to Pettit. Mariano, No, he was

679
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: up started, lots of lots of Mike.

680
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: Mussine, the Mike, the Moose.

681
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: What did you say, Kelly?

682
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: Who was who is Clemens's buddy that went out to Texas?

683
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: Was that Messina? Was that Petit? Who's the buddy with Clemens? Do? Anyway,

684
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: they were both pictured working out in T shirts that

685
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: said Chili dog on them, and dogs spelled d o

686
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: G not like dog like bro. But it was still

687
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: like a nickname, so we didn't really Yeah, Chili dock.

688
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: It was when Clemens went to the Astros late and

689
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: took someone with him that was a Yankee. It was

690
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: one of those things did go to the Astros, was

691
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: the chili dock.

692
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: The only thing I remember about Mike Mussine is knuckle curve.

693
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: He threw curve. That's a cool pitch. I think everybody

694
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: should throw the knuckle curve. And if you should, still

695
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: called the curve just spelled with a K, yeah, exactly.

696
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: I had to write that down in the score book yesterday.

697
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: A k inset well, not good.

698
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: Trevor Hoffman, ye is he know him for a change up?

699
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Him for a change up? And that's something I've been

700
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: thinking about ever since Kenlee Jansen blew this save on

701
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Saturday Night against the Cardinals.

702
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: I like my.

703
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Closers to throw exclusively gash. If you're not throwing over

704
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: ninety eight as a closer, I don't want to hear it.

705
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: So if you're not scary, it's not the same to me.

706
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Like Jensen's got good stuff. I'm sure Trevor Hoffman, if

707
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: he did throw a change up, has good stuff. Obviously,

708
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer, one of the great closers.

709
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: But I like the guy who you're expecting to put

710
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: triple digits on the gun when it comes to the

711
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: ninth inning. Because when it's all about movement, things can

712
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: go poorly, and that's exactly what happens Saturday night.

713
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: Kelly Jansen throws some heat, though, doesn't he.

714
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: He's like in the ninety Wars, but it's not the same.

715
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: He's all about movement, but that's why he was losing

716
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: wild pitches, hitting batters, walking guys bad.

717
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Strong disagree.

718
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: Just throw it straight and fast.

719
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Strong disagree.

720
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 3: Who's the greatest reliever ever? Way to find the position,

721
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: Maria Dennis Eckersley, No, no prior to that, like a

722
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: zero point four to two e r A one year

723
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: when he won two m vps and three so youngs

724
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: in one season. I believe I can't remember all the specifics,

725
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: but he was all swooping off speed things and back

726
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: door sliders and stuff like that.

727
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: No.

728
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: I need I need a I need a goofy looking reliever.

729
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: I need a rolly fingers. I need someone with some

730
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: slick stuff at a Cansa Culvia Quisinberry. I want a

731
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 3: guy that seems like his wife runs like an art

732
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: gallery or something. Like that downtown. I want. I want

733
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: something that tells me this guy knows how to play

734
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: some form of Spanish guitar in his persona. No I

735
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: need like h yeah, I need. I need an act

736
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't need a basic fireball or fire and okay,

737
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: he's got a little movement on that and you can tape. No, no,

738
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: give me the swoopy stuff. Give me the achers leave.

739
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: That's what Kirk Gibson said, as well, give me the actress.

740
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that backdoor slider.

741
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Roberto Alamar, I only have good memories of Eck,

742
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: who was a starter to start his career right and

743
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: then turn into an amazing reliever. Yeah, well, thank you

744
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: for dropping all those names. The dan Quisenberry. Oh god,

745
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: that feels good. So let's get to some name dropping here,

746
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: because we're gonna open some packs where we will see

747
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: some fantastic names. Now. A couple days ago, I hadn't

748
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: got any packs, and I needed to get some real quick.

749
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: So I wasn't gonna do the order online because it

750
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: was only going to get here today as we record

751
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: here on Wednesday. So I went to a collector store

752
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: and I got a couple of packs. The only nineties

753
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: era packs that they had were Bowman's. Okay, all right, now,

754
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: once you see the Bowmans, if you don't remember them,

755
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: you will remember them. They're old looking cards. I'm holding

756
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: the pack up here on YouTube.

757
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: The smallest name you will ever see on a baseball

758
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: card will be on these packs. It is so tiny.

759
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's totally true. I've had these packs in

760
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: my house for the last two days and I just

761
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: want to open them up and chew the thirty year

762
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: old gum and I can feel it the guns wax pack.

763
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: The gum is there. Yeah, they're waxy. But I wasn't

764
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: extremely happy with the Bowman's. So as a backup, I

765
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: stacked some cards from my nineteen nineties upper Deck collection,

766
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: which was collected manually packed by pack eight hundred cards. Here.

767
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: So the nice looking set of cards.

768
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they the first page is gone, so this is

769
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: what number nineteen to thirty five I guess on the

770
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: second page the Yeah, the front cover, front page is

771
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: gone from over the years. But I stacked some cards

772
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: from that as a backup. So here we go. Let's

773
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: open some Bowmen to start. We'll get to some nineteen

774
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: ninety upper Deck as a backup.

775
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: So this was a nineteen ninety season. I wonder if

776
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: that means we're talking like nineteen eighty nine and MLB

777
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: dress yes nine chipper unfortunately all.

778
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Right, so, uh what the heck is this? All right? Yeah?

779
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I think my worry was we weren't going

780
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: to get any names. But this is a decent name.

781
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: Little guy, little guy, A little guy, a New York Yankee.

782
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: I would guess an Italian name played up the middle.

783
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: He look, he looks rangy. I don't have much more

784
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: than that. No, well done, though, Tony Grafino, Well done

785
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: with the name. No, I guess he played third base here.

786
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: I guess he wasn't up the middle.

787
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Um what what what the Yankeeskees?

788
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was acquired from the White Sox. I don't

789
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: know if that well, that should help you. Perhaps it should, Yeah.

790
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Toluchell, he was never a White Sox.

791
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: His first name is Horny.

792
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: His first name is Horny, Yes or no, lust This

793
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: is a good baseball name, for sure.

794
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: It's a good baseball name. Yeah, yeah, he's this. His

795
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: first name is a little excited.

796
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, his first name is Horny. If your Austin Powers

797
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: specifically Randy McClure.

798
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: Randy, Randy Italian. Last name is where I was, where

799
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: I would Randy Vallardi, Randy Vallardi.

800
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Randy Vallardi. That's a good one.

801
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he's ripping right there.

802
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: See let's get that. Look at that type set, that

803
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: that two point type on that Randy there, look at that.

804
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: It's just just for that action shot. This is the

805
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: days of the stitch to stirrup too, which is just

806
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 3: classic eighty nine behavior.

807
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, are these cards trying to pull off an opeache.

808
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how long Bowman's been around, but they

809
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: feel they.

810
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: Came back and they were going to be like, we're

811
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: going to be the throwback card. We're going to be awesome.

812
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: We're also going to be larger than normal and everyone

813
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: was like, no, these don't fit inside our boxes. I

814
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: was one of those children, and so the next set

815
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: they made was normal size, and that's the one you're holding.

816
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Well done, thanks for all that, and see that that

817
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: is one of the names that we're going to know

818
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: from this pack. Because this next guy, there's no way

819
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: that he was a Seattle Mariner's outfielder. He looks like, yeah,

820
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: he's an outfielder. I got nothing on this guy. He

821
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: was also a Yankee at some point. He's an outfielder.

822
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all lining up for Jay Buner, but

823
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: it can't be.

824
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: Put Phelps in the onfield. We're still a Mariner in

825
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: eighty nine. That's that's also roughed out.

826
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh there's some there are some cubs with some cubs

827
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: in his life. These cards are very confusing as to

828
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: where these guys played.

829
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: You got a Jerome Walton.

830
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: Over there, No, no, no, his last name is his

831
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: last name's almost a fabric. Uh one letter, one letter

832
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: short of being a fabric that we all tad lee

833
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: Ester one letter short of being a fabric. We all

834
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: wear it. We're all wearing right now. We're all wearing

835
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: right now. Cotton Yep. Nice, one of the best fabrics

836
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: out there.

837
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Jim Trotten.

838
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: No, it's it's literally Henry Cotto, Henry Cotto.

839
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he was. He was definitely a Mariner. They're

840
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: low years. Yeah, yeah, I definitely was one of the

841
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: guys on those Harold Reynolds teams. Yeah, I got he's

842
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: all ready for a for a summer that's going to

843
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: include sixty wins. Look at that. That's that's the excitement

844
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: of spring kids. That's that's what that's the promise right there.

845
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: He's it's about to fade real soon, and then he's

846
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: going to get traded to a terrible Yankee team.

847
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: Why the hell is his bat taped? Why did they

848
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: tape bats up on the barrel? It's the barrel that's taped,

849
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: not the handle.

850
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a sweet spot. You gotta work on

851
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: hitting it there. And spring training we're working on ball striking.

852
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 2: Sea ball, hit ball, so you have to watch the ball.

853
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: Probably they don't want to stuff the balls. They got

854
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: to keep.

855
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Scuffed the ball with that tape. All right. This guy

856
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: I remember as a speedster, simple name outfielder. He's with

857
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: the A's and this I kind of remember him as

858
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: a San Francisco Giant, if I'm not mistaken. Darren made

859
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: his professional baseball deview at Scottsdale. Well, I guess his.

860
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Name is Jesus.

861
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Yes, Darren, Yeah, no, not Darren Lewis.

862
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Darren Lewis, I got.

863
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: You.

864
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: You're gonna be pretty skipping this game. I'm skipping this guy.

865
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: Tim McIntosh well be popping up above the v neck

866
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: there for Tim McIntosh and they were.

867
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: All polyester vn X in the eighties. How could that?

868
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: That just could not have been fun?

869
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: Scrape.

870
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I do love all the pin stripes though. The uniforms

871
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: are looking great though, Yeah the most that had a

872
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: superb Yeah, great shape of the hat.

873
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Speaking of uniforms, this classic UNI no longer in Major

874
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: League Baseball Montreal exposed UNI. If you're an expos fan,

875
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: you probably remember this guy, who's a very talented guy.

876
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: He got around. I think he was on the Giants.

877
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: He's an outfielder. Uh, he's with the Expos here five ten,

878
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: one seventy and I'm not a big guy. Was drafted

879
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: by the Cubs number three. Is that the first round?

880
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Is he a number three pick? It says Cubs number three.

881
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means round or not. He's

882
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: with the spos here FP.

883
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Not Casey Kandell. He was second basement. I do not recall.

884
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: Good, good guessing, great names there, but no.

885
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: Shields.

886
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: No, he played with those guys, but he was, you know,

887
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: definitely the lesser. He wasn't an Alu, he wasn't a

888
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: grisome even he'd definitely play with the Giants. Dave Martinez.

889
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh, David Martinez.

890
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, talented, talented guy.

891
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on a very good Cubs team in

892
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: eight eighty nine. There's some internal dissension in the clubhouse

893
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: or resulted in some trades, and Martinez was sent away.

894
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: The Reds once had John Wetland, future Hall of Fame reliever,

895
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 3: and decided to trade him to the Expos for probably

896
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: at the time, thirty year old Dave Martinez. John, that

897
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: was that was. That was a bit of a biff

898
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: on their end, But yeah, perfectly able player.

899
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: John Wetland ended up in the Hall of Fame.

900
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: Yes, was it or just very good? Maybe I don't know,

901
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: but you know, not much better than those red scenes

902
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: in the late nineties. Really could have been something but

903
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: in the mid nineties, but it just just just there

904
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: are always one player short.

905
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: I think if they inducted him into the Hall of

906
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Fame for having the dirtiest hat in MLP history. Actually,

907
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: the wet Land man, John Wetland loved a dirty.

908
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: Hat, a dirty hat. I thought he was a dirty tat.

909
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, where is it? What sort of bob barbed

910
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: wire monstrosity? What's hanging from at a this?

911
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? John Wetland. Uh dirty tat. This man may may

912
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: have had a dirty tat. He was a hurler. He

913
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: did it from the starter's position. He did it from

914
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: the bullpen as well. It looks like his wife may

915
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: have owned an art gallery. He's got a look, he's

916
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: got a look, he's got a stash. He liked to

917
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: stare down his opponents.

918
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: He liked Douggie Jones.

919
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: He did like to do a little demonstrative gestures to

920
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: the opposing dugout, No, we just mentioned him.

921
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh it is.

922
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: A stare down.

923
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice, that's nice.

924
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: Just just aggressively anti sideburns. Just if you had sideburns,

925
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: you were just you were just gone, like what what

926
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: are you even doing with sideburns?

927
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: But aggressive ear covers as well.

928
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, let him know I still know

929
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: how to party. I'm gonna strike you out, but I

930
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: needed I need you to know that I'm still cool.

931
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: It is. That's that's your spring haircut. That's what you

932
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: decide on. Look at that palm tree in the background.

933
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: This is a man who was ready to give up

934
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: about four runs in the next six months.

935
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: He uh just recently retired as Cardinals broadcaster Red Sox

936
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: Red Sox.

937
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where he was a famed starter before this

938
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: is years got the best of them, and yeah he was.

939
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: He was a lot of fun on those guns.

940
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, these these cards are so dumb. Uh and that

941
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: they they give you the stats, uh that they they

942
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: had against the team, every single team that they That's ridiculous.

943
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: It's just and they have they would have like four

944
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: at bats or something. And I think one year they

945
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: had him by month and I'm not like, who cares

946
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: what they did in April?

947
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Bowmen?

948
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: What is what is happening here?

949
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know these cards very well. You know them

950
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: better than I do. And I'm looking at them. But

951
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: they don't have the previous teams. That's the dumb thing.

952
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: I want to give you guys some previous teams, but

953
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: they literally just have the stats for the teams that

954
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: they played against, which is Anyways, this guy's got a

955
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: literation in his name. He's a double letter double start.

956
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: To Allen Anderson and Ada Maerson, Allen Mayle Anderson.

957
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: No, but it's a great name. It's not a player

958
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: who's extremely well known, but I just remember him because

959
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: of his name. Waltz Weiss, nice, very nice. Who's part

960
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: of the Braves. No, it's not him, very nice guest,

961
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: part of the Braves coaching staff. Pat Perry, Yeah, Harry

962
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: who Pat Perry, Pat Perry?

963
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: No, Rich Robinson No, Ron Robinson. No.

964
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: A lot earlier in the alphabet, he was in a

965
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: middle infielder five eleven one seventies with the Indians. Here

966
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: Brett Boone, No Boon Butler Brett Butler is he was

967
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: born in the Dominican Republic.

968
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: That changes things.

969
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: Felix for mein good name, good name, good name.

970
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get that back. You don't need a month that,

971
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: you don't need a mont that make him work. They

972
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: know what's coming, but you don't have to give it

973
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: to him, you know what I mean? Felix fix for

974
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: me another alliteration.

975
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: Let's go with this baby. I believe a starting pitcher.

976
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: He liked to sport a mustache. He's with the astros

977
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: here Dougie Drayback. No, No, but that's perfect. No, but

978
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: the exact letter that you just said. And he's got

979
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: a theory.

980
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: He's got a theory, he's got a he's got Darwin,

981
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Danny Darwin nicely maybe like a White Sox. At some

982
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: point I don't know if.

983
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: That's yeah, he was a via the white Flag trade,

984
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: where Jerry Ryan Surf traded a bunch of white socks

985
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: on the way to the when they were like three

986
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: and a half games out in August. He was like,

987
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: I just I'm just a bad donor and I'm just

988
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: going to trade everyone because oh yeah, it even has

989
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: its own Wikipedia page.

990
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: It was.

991
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I was looking at it recently too, for I have

992
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: no idea what reason, Kelly, I feel like you're maybe

993
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: a minor White Sox fan. Is that true?

994
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I own several hats and thousands of baseball cards,

995
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: and yeah, they were the American League team, and they

996
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: were always on TV, and it was fun to go

997
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 3: to Socks Park and also watched the fireworks and the old,

998
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: old old Sox park, they should say, And it was, yeah,

999
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: I've always I've always enjoyed the Socks. I was not

1000
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: a huge follower of their two thousand and four run,

1001
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: but the eighties and nineties teams, yeah, I was high up. There.

1002
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: Seems to be that this season they've reached kind of

1003
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: their fire garpacks moment exactly. The Rhyansdorf universe out.

1004
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: There, Ye, at the very least they need to bring

1005
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: with Charlie Lao Walt Heerniac principles back to batting and

1006
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: open up that stance and try to go the other way.

1007
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: That's that's at least my that's the way I saw

1008
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: things back in the early nineties.

1009
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: Well, Herniac loved a high finish, a high one handed finish.

1010
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of in high school one handed finished.

1011
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: I think it's okay. I think they'll pay off eventually.

1012
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: There may have been a Bowman's era here. We got

1013
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: we had three brewers in a row, and then I

1014
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: found a fourth deep in the pack. So we're just

1015
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: gonna fly through these.

1016
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: Bowman was known for that.

1017
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: Uh the Bowman Brigade of brewers here. I'm gonna name

1018
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: this guys. I'm not I'm not going through them. Jamie

1019
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: Navarro was probably he was a White Sox, the most

1020
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: known of all those guys.

1021
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: Very good pitcher.

1022
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: Uh So, Jamie Navarro, You're gonna fly through these. Glenn Brags.

1023
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: Glenn Braggs dated someone from en Vogue at the height

1024
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: of en Vogue's fame, and when he was with the Reds,

1025
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 3: he twice he swung so hard he broke a bat

1026
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: on his shoulder, damn and dated a member of n

1027
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: Vogue and Vogue.

1028
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Those are two good brags for Glenn.

1029
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: He's he broke a bat on his shoulder like he

1030
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: swung through and.

1031
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: His follow through in a I broke the handle off, Yeah,

1032
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: I broke the handle off. It broke at the handle, yeah,

1033
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: just you know, just a wham.

1034
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: Never never seen such a thing. Probably we hadn't either.

1035
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: It was remarkable.

1036
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't happen with today's maples that they're using.

1037
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: You think they're making part of these days? I think

1038
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: so you see less broken bats or like like highlights

1039
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: of broken bats, like about Jackson. You know how, don't

1040
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: seen a guy break a bat over his head in

1041
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: a long time.

1042
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: Do yourself a favorite YouTube Chrisabo corked Bat and watch

1043
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: the most hilarious at bat and baseball history where Crisabo

1044
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: knows he has a broken bath that is full of cork,

1045
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: and yet distill decides to swing with it, knowing that

1046
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: it's going to explode full of cork everywhere, and of

1047
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: course he gets caught and it's the it's a real uh,

1048
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a moment in baseball history. Let's put

1049
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: it that way. Yeah, Chrisable corked bat.

1050
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Done and done. I was just looking at Crisabo's goggles. Uh,

1051
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm down with any crusable story. Uh. Greg Brock is

1052
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: another brewer here that we're flying through. And Teddy Hgaratt

1053
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: was he Canadian? Greg Brock I did not that I

1054
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 2: know of or Australian. No, he was. He was born

1055
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: in Oregon, so pretty close to Canada. No relation to

1056
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: lou Uh. And Teddy Higera who's gum stained.

1057
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: Gum stained Teddy also through a.

1058
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: No way that was one. But yeah, Teddy was a

1059
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: pretty good pitcher for a while there.

1060
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, I didn't know that.

1061
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Bruce Bruce were stacked. They had well, you know,

1062
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: they had won Nievas. They had Bill Plashki later Bucks

1063
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: announcer calling their games. They had some they had some

1064
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: fun later.

1065
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: Uh and uh obviously Robin you and Rob Deer and

1066
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: Polly Molly, Greg vaugh Okay, the speaking of a classic. Uh.

1067
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: I think Skeets actually mentions this guy pretty often because

1068
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: he's well known for one thing. No, and it has

1069
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: nothing to do you know. He does like to say

1070
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: Dwayne Warde, but no, this is a position player. This

1071
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: is a physician player who lost a part of his anatomy.

1072
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: That because there is going on Johnny Crook.

1073
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is notable for losing a part of

1074
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: his anatomy.

1075
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at the baby face. Kruk, it's

1076
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: got some garth, Brooks.

1077
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: He's got a garth look to him. Great moment.

1078
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: Pause. John Cruk was on David Letterman Show in the

1079
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: mid nineties. Don't worry steey, dan Asia teachhert.

1080
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: Very great stuff, great stuff from John Kruck.

1081
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Kruk. Is he an announcer now or somewhere something like?

1082
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: I think so.

1083
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the booth. He's got understated Yeah, all right,

1084
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: let's get to our second pack here of Bowman's.

1085
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Let's get to the second pack of Bowmens. You want

1086
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: me to do it, It's up to you.

1087
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm really on that pinky in the side.

1088
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: That's strange. It feels honestly odd, but got it does

1089
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: like it changes the way you close the glove, like

1090
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: I close it thumb to pinky now rather than like

1091
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: thumb to finger. So my pocket feels deeper. And I'm

1092
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna use use I'm gonna use it to hide my

1093
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: face when I'm doing these cards. I think that's something

1094
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: Greg Maddis invented. Not all right, here's a good one.

1095
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: Teammate of John Cruok, one of the scumbags on the Phillies.

1096
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: He's also he's also a uh an alliteration name.

1097
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: Oh, Darren Dalton.

1098
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. That's a big one.

1099
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: Darren Dalton d D. This guy I've never heard of,

1100
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: but he was a Chicago White Sox.

1101
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 3: You.

1102
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he looks very young in that picture. Whenever

1103
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: he gets that a lot, you remind me of a

1104
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: young Zach Effron. Darren Dalton. All right, this guy is

1105
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: a picture Kelly obviously in the ninety season for the

1106
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. We're talking about the A and Red era. Um.

1107
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. He's from New Orleans.

1108
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: He's straight up from New Orleans, Okay. And his first

1109
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: name is gregs.

1110
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: Greg Walker was a position player. I don't recall the

1111
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: last name of this guy, you know, I know.

1112
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 2: Dowel, Greg Hibbard, Greg Hibbard, Yes, there was another hypn

1113
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: speaking of balls.

1114
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: Soft tosser, soft tosser.

1115
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

1116
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh, he is ready for spring with that, Shane, look

1117
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: at him, He's like, I'm gonna wear it this year.

1118
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: I've only bought a last winter, but I'm gonna wear

1119
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: it this year. I'm absolutely gonna wear what Ivan Calroone says.

1120
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear it.

1121
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: Do you think he got that in the winter.

1122
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: It looks like and he got it two winters prior,

1123
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: and he just didn't have the guts before the eighty

1124
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: eight season. In eighty nine, it's time shine.

1125
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh wow, screams spring By.

1126
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: To me.

1127
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: It screams like an island chain. But I hear what

1128
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: you're saying, all right.

1129
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: This guy was one of the best hitters for the

1130
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers in the nineteen nineties. Nick name based on

1131
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: his actual name, high average, lots of dingers, lots of RBIs.

1132
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: Harold Baines.

1133
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: No, also no, But I mean, you guys are in

1134
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: the right era. I believe he was a right handed hitter,

1135
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: absolutely right. It is hard to figure out what their

1136
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: batting averages was, and this is definitely before his prime.

1137
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh it's Wan Gonzales. That's a nice one if it

1138
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: wasn't completely gum stained. Besides the gum stain, that's a

1139
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: nice looking.

1140
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: Card right there. That's hilarious. I think that's a rookie

1141
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: card too. It smells of cotton, can you know?

1142
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: It's like as a six with the gum on there. Unfortunately,

1143
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: all right, we got a cubby here outfielder in first base.

1144
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: He is listed at. I think he might have gone

1145
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: on to be a manager for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Lloyd,

1146
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: there we go, Lloyd McClendon.

1147
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: Good one, good one, Lloyd mc.

1148
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: This is a more notable pack here catcher too, you guys,

1149
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: I can play catcher. Okay, this guy in the nineteen

1150
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: nineties was a Boston Red Sox. In this card, he's

1151
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: a Boston Red Sox. And for me, the name is

1152
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: very similar to Harold Bains, and I would mess them

1153
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: up and get them confused for each other. Not as

1154
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: good of a player as Harold Bains, I don't think,

1155
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: but an outfielder as well. Ellis Burks, Yes, Ellis Burks

1156
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: is exactly right, Very well done, is.

1157
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: Ela Harold Bains name.

1158
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: It's a it's a Harold Bain's kind of name for sure.

1159
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: Okay, you're you're gonna get the Washington Bullets and the

1160
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy six ers confused. In late eighties. Sometimes he's

1161
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: gonna get Ellis Burks and Harold Bains.

1162
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: There you go.

1163
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 3: In the nineties, are gonna get the diame of Baslain

1164
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Rocky all too similar?

1165
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, this one we're not gonna get. This is

1166
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: a this is a brewer. They just you gotta get

1167
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: some brewers when you're getting a pack of moments.

1168
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 2: Here.

1169
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: It's not Randy Vallardi. It's Randy Varies. Whoever Randy Varies

1170
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: or veris is. We don't know him.

1171
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: Oh, you couldn't take him this picture. Yesterday when I

1172
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: was fine, I had to go up with Brandy Krause

1173
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: and Teddy Huger and the rest of the boys. And

1174
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: you've got to take a picture of that that morning

1175
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: after that, Jesus, Okay, what are you? Boweman? They make

1176
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: bone ones again? Okay, cool, let's do it.

1177
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: Still making bowmans. We're getting close to a full set

1178
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: here of Milwaukee Brewers. Probably not. We've got like five

1179
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: of them and there's like fifty players on a roster.

1180
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: But still look at like none of these have been

1181
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: action shots for the Brewers either. They've all been spring

1182
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: trading shots. Uh. This guy pictures for the Oakland Athletics.

1183
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Great pitching name a great baseball name A food. Part

1184
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: of his last name is A is a delicious natural

1185
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: sweetener that we get for beanies. Rick Honeycut, Look how

1186
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: handsome he's looking in this picture. And he said, I

1187
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: can't put my hat on. I'm having a great hairy.

1188
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: This guy's a movie star. He was definitely fresh on

1189
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: the brain for me, because I've got this deck card

1190
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: of him looking like a frigging movie star signing.

1191
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 3: He's not giving out autographs, He's going out number.

1192
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Rick Honey got styling man. He went

1193
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: feel accessories.

1194
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: The next year, Beckersly's deputy. He was his Barney Fife.

1195
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: He was his lefty set up guy followed him. Do

1196
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: we Saint Louis? That first year Together's like, if I'm

1197
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: gonna pitture, I'm gonna eat my honeycut.

1198
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: There we go.

1199
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: We got.

1200
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: We got the eighth and the ninth innings, taken care

1201
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: of what the Oakland is right now? Okay, this guy

1202
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: is a great nineteen nineties player. Probably has the most

1203
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: infamous contract in MLB history. Bobby Bobby Bonia pirate Bobby.

1204
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: I also I also stacked a Bobby Bonia, So let

1205
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: me pull that out of my upper Deck pack as well,

1206
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: because Bobby bo is still getting paid every July. First

1207
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: I forgot, Yeah he was a pirate, But there's a

1208
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 2: pirate's art card from upper Deck as well. Oh yeah,

1209
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: and Vernon Wells made that. I guess v Wells is

1210
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: signed on the art card of Bobby.

1211
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a good one. This guy played for both

1212
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: socks at some point in his career. Has a very

1213
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: famous home run for the Boston Red Sox, Carlton Fiska's

1214
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: absolute Yeah, twenty seven for the Red Sox, seventy two

1215
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: for the White Sox.

1216
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that.

1217
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. The homer he hits for the

1218
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: Red Sox. You know he's doing like the cool, like

1219
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: keep it fair thing. That was an awesome thing to

1220
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: try and emulate back in the day.

1221
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's a whiffleball classic. When you get around a

1222
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: little too early on a tennis ball and you send

1223
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: it to you know, you're hoping it's going to be

1224
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: in left field. Yea, Yeah, you gotta do it a little.

1225
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: Double slash down, Come on, stay fair, stay fair. It

1226
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: did Carlton fisk side the later, Yeah, emotional leader in

1227
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: the clubhouse there for the White Sox.

1228
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: And Carrolson try to get him to play the left

1229
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: play left field with the Sox one year to make

1230
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: way for I believe Jerry Cross draftee. Ron karkaweis ooh, car,

1231
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: I think he might be up on a up on

1232
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: this the wall of the wall of these ron car Archivice.

1233
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: That's another guy who liked the wire rim glasses as well.

1234
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: Did this guy that's gonna be tough. He's a Detroit

1235
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Tiger for the nineteen ninety season. There's a few baseball

1236
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: players I feel like that are named Milt and he

1237
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: is woom. This is definitely named.

1238
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: The Milt, not Milt Plasio.

1239
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: Nope, no, no, got it.

1240
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Milt Kyler. Milt Kyler, you can spring training photo because

1241
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have a logo on his helmet at

1242
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: this point, doesn't even get the d for the Detroit Tigers.

1243
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's a good one. Texas ranger at the time,

1244
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: also a White Sox player in the future. You often

1245
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: get his name mixed up with Ellis Burks.

1246
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: Oh, that would be uh Washington Bullet Harold bains.

1247
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: Right, got a Baines and a Burks in the same pack.

1248
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that a lot is that's

1249
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: a lot of two hitting twenty home runs. That's that's

1250
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: a good pack.

1251
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: That's nice. Harold Baines did make the Hall of Fame eventually,

1252
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: right he did?

1253
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: Okay, nice?

1254
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: Look look at that Jamie far T hat that is.

1255
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: That is very nice. I made a mash reference. I

1256
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: don't care.

1257
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: That's gonna be really hitting with our audience, for sure.

1258
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: Here's one. This is a guy's name.

1259
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: I know.

1260
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: He was an angel for this season. He's listed as

1261
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: a DH and an outfielder.

1262
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: Probably had some power day Parker.

1263
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: No, if you were doing laundry and you wanted your

1264
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: clothes to be fresh and soft after the dryer, you

1265
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: might throw one of this guy's sheets into it, Larry Sheets,

1266
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: Brian Downing.

1267
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: I remember him as an angel for sure.

1268
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a real tin salmon out there. I like it.

1269
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: I like it. You can tell that this was the

1270
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: nineties too, because he's wearing a baseball hat underneath that. Yes,

1271
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: that was a look. It's like, oh sorry, Chad's on

1272
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: second base. He's wearing the biggest helmet, so you're gonna

1273
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: have to wear one. You're gonna have to wear your

1274
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: hat with a helmet on the top of it to

1275
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: make it fit. Doug Glanville. Maybe was also a hat

1276
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: under the under the helmet guy. I don't know. Here's

1277
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: a Yankee. He's wearing wire rim glasses. Here. He's a

1278
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: short stop in the nineteen ninety season. So it ain't

1279
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter. I'm just noticing now that I share a

1280
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: birthday with this guy. But he's a little bit older.

1281
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: He's Venezuelan shortstop. Yeah, they shortstop for the Yankees.

1282
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: Not coming to me, Kenyona, No, No, Robinson Cano. I

1283
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: don't know.

1284
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: The ninety season. I'm want to be helpless with the Yankees.

1285
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: That was. I think they were without uh Steinbrenner that year.

1286
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: I think he was suspended that season, or maybe that

1287
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 3: was ninety one.

1288
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he had nothing to do with the acquisition

1289
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: of Alvero Espinoza. Oh what a name, Alveros Pinosa. I

1290
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know anything about him. All right. This is a

1291
01:02:55,160 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: great card an athletic at the time, o go t

1292
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: in this photo. His name has been mentioned on the

1293
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: podcast earlier, but when we were talking about a different team.

1294
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll hall a non Hall of Famer Mark McGuire.

1295
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: That's right, Mark McGuire, Oakland, A's Mark McGuire.

1296
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's see yeah right there, thin neck.

1297
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, much thinner neck in this photo, much narrower head.

1298
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: And finally we got ourselves an art card. Got ourselves

1299
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: an art card. Ummm, there's no trivia on the back,

1300
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: but it looks like a pretty cool card. This was

1301
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: probably the most notable nineteen nineties New York Yankee.

1302
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 4: Chucknow Block, No, no, Colonio, wasn't there fair?

1303
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: Fair?

1304
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: I watched a travel team game with my brother was

1305
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: playing and down in southern Indiana, and Donny baseball son

1306
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: was playing in it. And he was, uh behind the

1307
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 3: center field or see me left field wall, with a

1308
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: cooler and a launch air and having himself just a

1309
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: wonderful afternoon watching this kid play baseball. Everyone left him alone.

1310
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: I didn't go anywhere near him. I could just see

1311
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 3: him sip beer all afternoon. It was it was cool.

1312
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: It was like, that's Donny Baseball.

1313
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: That's respectful.

1314
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to go see Donny Baseball in the

1315
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: dugout this Friday. We're going to take in a break.

1316
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: Marlins are coming to town. He's their manager. Can't wait

1317
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: that's why he couldn't attend Paul O'Neill's ceremony last week.

1318
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: He wanted to be there, he said Paul O'Neill. The

1319
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: acquisition of paul O'Neill was the biggest tray the Yankees

1320
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: have ever made outside of Babe Ruth, because paul O'Neil

1321
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: brought him those ships. So, Donny baseball with an old

1322
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: landscape card there. Yeah, do you agree? You think that's

1323
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: the second biggest, right?

1324
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not up on my Yankees trade, but

1325
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: you know, the guy who's best known for kicking the

1326
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: baseball out of right field is you know?

1327
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: No.

1328
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Paul o'eil was fine. He was an All

1329
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: Star when I lived in Cincinnati. He's a perfectly acceptable player.

1330
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: But I just gosh, I'm hoping the Yankees are some

1331
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: better trades. And then didn't they get this who's that

1332
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: picture slash shopfielder that they got? And they traded like

1333
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand baby Ruth? They traded for that.

1334
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Donny straight outside Babe Ruth Paul O'Neil.

1335
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well, Ken Phelps was pretty pretty you know,

1336
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: let's let's not dismiss.

1337
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: That either, But you can't dismiss the intangibles that Paul

1338
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: O'Neil brought to the clubhouse.

1339
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: That's true, That's.

1340
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: What Donnie was talking about. I think anyways, great to

1341
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: see a landscape that's nice.

1342
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: Nice art card, a couple of right there.

1343
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: And that's why I included this this other art card here.

1344
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: We don't have to go through his name, but this

1345
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: is a Mickey Tetleton just because he's a great baseball name.

1346
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, from from the nineties. So just a few

1347
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: upper decks here, all going to centerfield.

1348
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: He's always that.

1349
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: Why is he throwing a sidearm side arm from behind

1350
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: the plate? Interesting?

1351
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: That makes no sense. You're right, it is going to

1352
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: center field.

1353
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1354
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: Makes throwing an X slider right there?

1355
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: All right? A few upper decks to head to leave

1356
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: you with here, Kelly, before you got to go a

1357
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta Brave because I know this is close to Trey's heart,

1358
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: but not not not the pictures that you that we've

1359
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: all mentioned here, as we've talked about pooholes hitting dangers,

1360
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: but a pitcher who played a long time, this is

1361
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 2: early in his career. These are nineteen ninety upper decks.

1362
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: I should say early in his career out of the pen.

1363
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 3: I believe left oh the pen.

1364
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think he pitched his entire career out

1365
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: of the pen. I'm pretty sure he threw left handed.

1366
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: Charlie librandt very nice, very nice. Now he try to

1367
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: Librant has always been sixty five in this instance, this

1368
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: picture is very young. He's taking number thirteen in the

1369
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: eighty seven draft out of Alvin, Texas.

1370
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: Oh it was it is Steve Babery.

1371
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, oh my bad.

1372
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: No, you got a camp Mrker over there.

1373
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: No, but this this was the beginning of his career,

1374
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: and he pitched in the World Series against the Jays

1375
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: in ninety two. But then he played for ever. I

1376
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: know him as a Yankee. He could still be playing today.

1377
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: He's retired, but he was in the classic Mike Stanton.

1378
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: Mike Stanton, good Yankees head.

1379
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, just aggressively anti sideburns.

1380
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: You could not have sideburns in the nineties until you

1381
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: had to have sideburns in the nineties.

1382
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1383
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: You mentioned this guy earlier, Kelly. He was part of

1384
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: that Reds great team that went to the World Series

1385
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: that got their asses swept.

1386
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 3: Right the way around.

1387
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: Brother, Oh, they swept, they swept the.

1388
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Did I say heremony him? Did I say Glen Bryant's

1389
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: Aaron Davis, Jose Jose Rijo, Tom Browning.

1390
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: I don't remember this man's squads being this big, but

1391
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 4: they are big. Benzinger, Todd, Benzinger going going, he was

1392
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: on the infield. Billy Hatcher, Billy Hatcher, very nice, little

1393
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: ahead of that one, but you know.

1394
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, these you're right, the upper decks got some action shots.

1395
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: They got some better friend, it.

1396
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: Looks like the World Series that could have been. Oh no,

1397
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: there is a ninety seven.

1398
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: How would you be able to tell if it was

1399
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: the World whoa cards down?

1400
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: Bobby?

1401
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: I thought I saw some A's stuff in the back.

1402
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a little green. There's a little green

1403
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: back there. This Uh that could be that could be

1404
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: that's Cincinnati.

1405
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's Dodgers.

1406
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Blue.

1407
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: Guys are good.

1408
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Dodger's still the same stadium right that they

1409
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: played with that played him back then.

1410
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: But they don't call it Ravine anymore.

1411
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't think no, But they have a classic. It's

1412
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: a classic Dodger stadium. Respect Red's logo with the little

1413
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: happy baseball.

1414
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 3: I love it so funny.

1415
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: Actually, you mentioned this, next one mentioned this guy's name

1416
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: when you're guessing randomly is number thirty nine, probably the

1417
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: best thirty nine in sports history, besides Dominic Hassock.

1418
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: Johnson, Bobby who did I ran? Only mentioned? That's not

1419
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 3: got Kelly Dwyer thing.

1420
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: He's a big he's a big hitter. Powerful played with

1421
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: the A's at this point, but he got around Rubin Sierra. Nope.

1422
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: Dave Parker, Davy Pte.

1423
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: Dave Parker one of my favorite players of all time,

1424
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: top top five player for me?

1425
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: Why is he a top five player?

1426
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 3: He's just He's just the dude. He's famous for walking

1427
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: around in a in a T shirt with a parlam

1428
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: in front, the Devil Claric on it. That you know.

1429
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: He's just he's just the guy. I mean, he wore

1430
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: a hockey mask and a football helmet when he broke

1431
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 3: his jaw. He's just He's just a bodacious hitter. And

1432
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: he played forever. He played for two teams after this,

1433
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: he played for the Brewers and the Angels, And yeah,

1434
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: I just I just dig his game.

1435
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: And UH would rip a cigarette as well. Right, there's

1436
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Is there a photo of him ripping a cigarette? I

1437
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: think so.

1438
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's there's Richie Allen too, But yeah, I

1439
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: mean that that whole, that whole Pirates team. I'm sure

1440
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 3: it was ripping SIGs all over the place. That was

1441
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: That was just a that was a crew. And Parker

1442
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: was the best of them. I mean, he dominated the

1443
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: late seven He's absolute dominated it, and I wish they

1444
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: put him. I'm hoping these kids will push them into

1445
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.

1446
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: Dave. Yeah, the Hall of Fame's changing now. It's all

1447
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: it's about the numbers. Guys who wouldn't get in before

1448
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: would get in now. Apparently, I agree, because they had.

1449
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: He had to play with Pete Rose in Cincinnati and

1450
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: no one was weird lineups when Pete was trying to

1451
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 3: win games the wrong way, if you know what I mean.

1452
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 3: And you know, playing in a giant, massive stadium with

1453
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: so his stats kind of suffered. But he was, you know,

1454
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: per the era, he was. He was dynamite. He was

1455
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: the guy.

1456
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: The photo, yeah, the photo with the Pirates, the old

1457
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: school hat. That's a billowing hat. It's like four feet tall,

1458
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: and it's just me and and and that's funny. I

1459
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: guess that's a cigarette. Looks like a cigarette. He's smoking

1460
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: something if you're watching on YouTube.

1461
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: Could be a hand rolled cigarette.

1462
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: And the player behind him as well.

1463
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. That's baseball for you.

1464
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: Great, great stuff.

1465
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty two games. Gotta do what you

1466
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: gotta do.

1467
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: This guy, I totally forgot he was a Chicago Cub

1468
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: famously known as fans Law.

1469
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 3: Oh of course he's a Chicago Cub. Maybe All Star team.

1470
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: Vance Law on one call, that's all Vance Law. That

1471
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: sounds like a y.

1472
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: That sounds that's a bench ad right there.

1473
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1474
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: No, this guy infamously known for a moment where he

1475
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: gave up a huge dinger in the biggest of moments

1476
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 2: for another team.

1477
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 3: Was like that the wild lefty Mitch Williams.

1478
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:36,440
Speaker 2: Mitch Williams himself totally forgot he was a Cub yep, yep, yes, indeed.

1479
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: Traded for Rafael palmarrow sideburns. Yeah, I look at that trendsetter.

1480
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: Icons you're out of here. I am iconoclast. Mitch Williams,

1481
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: I will wear sideburns.

1482
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: Was here? Rangers were He's a Ranger?

1483
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and the Cubs had to get rid of

1484
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: Rafael Palmarrow and Dave Martinez because of some locker room

1485
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: dissension and led into a wild lefty reliever. And that

1486
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 3: happened on the scene at the same time, this awesome

1487
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 3: movie came out about a wild Reliever. So it was,

1488
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: it was. It was a fun year eighty nine. Cubs

1489
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: are one of my favorite names ever.

1490
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Oh and then you obviously gave up the home run

1491
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: to Joe Joelton Joe in ninety three of Blue Jay.

1492
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: And we've got a blue Jay here. Another lefty taken

1493
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: to the hill. Another another Jimmy keyth no good guess,

1494
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: another bit of a wow. Child. Had some issues with

1495
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: gout in his career. Yeah late late, eating too much mutton,

1496
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah late in his career where he was a Yankee

1497
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: late got he did some special things. He was a

1498
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: blue Jay, I don't really. I mean, I know him

1499
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: as blue Jay because I was a Blue Jay's fan,

1500
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: but he's definitely more known as a Yankee.

1501
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: David Wells.

1502
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: Wells done, sir, to go get that.

1503
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: That had us just pure, that had us so clean.

1504
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: That's nice. Three more cards.

1505
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about the blue Jays wearing red

1506
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: every Monday. I saw some Blue Jays fans tweeting about it.

1507
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: This week looks weird to see a team called the

1508
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Blue Jays wearing so much red.

1509
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I've I'm okay with it because I

1510
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: see it on Canada Day and now I'm fine with

1511
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: it every Monday. It is a little much extra red.

1512
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: As Kelly just said, one hundred and sixty two games,

1513
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 2: mix it up? Why why the heck not. I was

1514
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: just explaining to my father in law that they play

1515
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: the same team three or four times in a row,

1516
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: and he just couldn't understand it.

1517
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. It is go and stay for a

1518
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: weekend and play baseball.

1519
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: Every day, and he's and he's like every day you know,

1520
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: there's no breaks.

1521
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they must Is it uncomfortable?

1522
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they must get tired. This guy must have got

1523
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: tired because he played two sports. I threw him in here,

1524
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: as we all know, the the greatest guy to play

1525
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 2: two sports. Now it's not the greatest guy. I take

1526
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: it back. Oh yeah, it's Bo Bo because every so

1527
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: the other guys, obviously Dion.

1528
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I would say Dion certainly more accomplished

1529
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: than Bo Jackson. But maybe Bo Jackson had more talent

1530
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: in both of his sports. Just the injury with the

1531
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: Raiders kind of ruined things for baseball and football for Bo,

1532
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: whereas Dion was able to kind of avoid contact for

1533
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: most of his career in the NFL, being the greatest

1534
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: defensive back of all time.

1535
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going back and playing with the Reds just randomly,

1536
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: almost anonymously, I'm going to play for this. You know.

1537
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: He could have been like, Hey, I'm just gonna you know,

1538
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to come around in September October and play

1539
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: for a game, play for whatever team is the high

1540
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 3: spinning is going to be in the October is going

1541
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 3: to be on TV. I'm going to play for that team.

1542
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, I'm just going to go play

1543
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: for the Reds all year and just do you know,

1544
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: normal baseball things and not beyond TV. It was it

1545
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 3: was I love Neon, but yeah, Bos the man.

1546
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: Do you know another guy who played baseball and football?

1547
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: Because I just realized that he was a brave, just

1548
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: realized totally. Brian Jordan, Brian Jordan and Brian Jordan.

1549
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cardinal, Yeah, he was one.

1550
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 3: To me.

1551
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, we're letting guys play two sports now,

1552
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna try it as well. Way better at

1553
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: baseball than football. I think Brian Jordan was what.

1554
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: Position he played football?

1555
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: I don't even remember.

1556
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's maybe a safety.

1557
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: All right, two more cards. This guy is sweet the

1558
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: first his first name, sweet first name. It's a nickname.

1559
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: I suppose, like no, very nice, very nice? No is actual?

1560
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Is actual first name that everyone knows him by? Is

1561
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: this sweet? Tantalizing? It's sugary? Baby's sugary. It's his sugary name.

1562
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: Uh skittle Johansson.

1563
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: No, his last name probably as many syllables, a lot

1564
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: of a lot of syllables. In his last team we're

1565
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: talking here, he was a Giant. He was also a

1566
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: Blue Jay. He's kind of like a utility guy.

1567
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 3: It can't be Kevin Seltzer because that's sweet. It's just bubbly.

1568
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,879
Speaker 2: It's just bubbly Kevin Seltzer. Is that a guy.

1569
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: Coach right now?

1570
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, he's Puerto Rican.

1571
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1572
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,440
Speaker 1: I got ivanud Rodriguez.

1573
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 3: No, and maybe this is a Blue Jay Giant. You

1574
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: didn't get a lot of Blue Jay Giant transactions.

1575
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: No, No, he was. He probably signed as a free agent.

1576
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: Because he wasn't incredible, but he was. He was useful

1577
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 2: and I played in the World Series for the Blue Jays.

1578
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: Candy Maldonada, that is sweet.

1579
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to see what his actual

1580
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 2: name is, but no one knows. It's not on the

1581
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: back of the card. Marldonado's throw is over everything. That's

1582
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: what he's well known for.

1583
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: Is in my house. He was known for my mom

1584
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: telling me he was She was going to get me

1585
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: a Candy Maldonado autographed because she knew somebody that knew him.

1586
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 1: Never got never got it, still haunted to this day.

1587
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 2: It wud be a great nickname to all right, great autography.

1588
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Last guy here, he's still hanging

1589
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: around the game, celebrating the game. One of the all

1590
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: time greats. I mean, I'm skipping the lead here. An

1591
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 2: absolute beauty of a smile, an absolute pure swing, a

1592
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: lefty kid, the kid ken and I threw him out

1593
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: there because he also tweeted a photo of his a

1594
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: split screen of his from his rookie year, which was

1595
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, and he he replicated it. He replicated

1596
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: it recently. If you're watching on YouTube, th eighty ninety

1597
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: and he looks exactly the same, like thirty plus years later,

1598
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, a little age, but not all that different. Yeah,

1599
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: that's a good call.

1600
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been back to Bellingham, Washington where that photo

1601
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 3: was safe Bellingham, Washington. That's where his minor league team

1602
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: wasn't He was killing it when he's like eighteen and

1603
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: a half. Like, oh, this guy's going to be in

1604
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 3: the pros.

1605
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: Real soon, but they didn't. They so they brought him

1606
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: up to the majors real quick.

1607
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: Then real quick. Yeah, oh yeah he was. He was

1608
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: on the accelerated program there. And then then the Reds

1609
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: just for some reason, we're like, yeah, well we're going

1610
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: to release his father, and Seattle was like, okay, so

1611
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: his father is available, let's get let's be awesome here

1612
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 3: and make the greatest story ever and signed two. Yeah,

1613
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: that was That was a fun thing to be around for.

1614
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: Just yeah, sign his dad. Red's release him. You don't

1615
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 3: need him on the World Series team. He's hitting one ninety,

1616
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 3: goes out to Seattle and he's like, actually a really

1617
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: good player for one great year and then sees his

1618
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 3: son off for the for the rest of his career.

1619
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: It was a that was a fun, fun time because

1620
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: Seattle was like nothing back then had Harold Reynolds was

1621
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: like their all time leading everything at the two seventy

1622
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 3: getting shortstop. So yeah, the kid, he was the greatest.

1623
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: You are a backwards hat back in the day, Kelly,

1624
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen you.

1625
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it was it was more of

1626
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 3: the uh it was by the time, I you know,

1627
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 3: it was hat wear in time. The backwards had had

1628
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: always been done, so it was it was a keep

1629
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 3: it forward sort of a you know, anti Chris Fross

1630
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: sort of sort of thing.

1631
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: It was.

1632
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: It was always a statement. Plus you had to see

1633
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 3: you had to let people know what you were had.

1634
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 3: You know, I had to be the first guy with

1635
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: that socks at when I change, I mean, the first

1636
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 3: guy with the Rockies hat when I got it. I

1637
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 3: had to be first out at Santos a shark's hat.

1638
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: It's you know, you want me, you want you want

1639
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 3: It's it's the it's what kids have before we get

1640
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: cool band t shirts. So I'm not waiting making them.

1641
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: If I buy a hat, if I buy a fog hat,

1642
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: I want people to see the thing on the front.

1643
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't want you know, there's nothing on the back,

1644
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: so I'm from I'm frontward.

1645
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: I like that traditional I'm frontward, all right, Kelly, thank

1646
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: you so much for coming on hit back to back

1647
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: Jacks this summer for the no Dunks, no Buns brand.

1648
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: You're on with no dunks as well, so I really

1649
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Uh, I love it. Make sure you're reading

1650
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: the second arrangement by Kelly Dwyer to see what he's

1651
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: doing at the Reds game tonight Wednesday night. In your honor,

1652
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to chew these two pieces of gum.

1653
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, you're good. No test they look yellow.

1654
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: No, they look fresh in person, they look fresh, and

1655
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: they look yellow on camera.

1656
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: That's strange. But I saw him was like supposed to

1657
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: be pink, aren't they?

1658
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: They smell like I'm doing it. I gotta do it

1659
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 2: now in your honor, just as good, just as good,

1660
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: thirty chewy. So good to have you on, Kelly.

1661
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: I'm on the record saying, no, right, we got that

1662
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: on the mic. The gum that looks like every color

1663
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: of the shoe that's on his throwback TV shirt, No.

1664
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: Dunce, yummy.

1665
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Why why would you say?

1666
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: Why would you say no to this, Kelly.

1667
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 3: We have to find no dun smirched so that we

1668
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,480
Speaker 3: can pay for the constantly ambulance ride. That is about.

1669
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 2: I'm driving. I'm getting in the task.

1670
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 3: From the Classic factory to the hospital to Tampa Bay.

1671
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm driving. I'm getting in the car. I'm trying not

1672
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: to swallow. Please don't, please don't already already, but yeah,

1673
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting in the car. I'm driving in Canada or

1674
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: as I'll take care of me. Yeah, you might as well.

1675
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: It's like a don't take the knife out situation. You're

1676
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna want to have to swallow that. Let your body

1677
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: do the most of the work on that pass.

1678
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: Do not.

1679
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: Randy Vallardes, I.

1680
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: Lost my mic there for a second.

1681
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: It sounded like you were eating crackers or something that

1682
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: does not sound like gub.

1683
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: I've just been I've just been eyeing this back. I'm

1684
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm once I get something in my mind, I can't

1685
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: let it go. So I've been eyeing these this gum

1686
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: for forty eight hours, thinking when am I going to

1687
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 2: chew that?

1688
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: When am I going to cheoe? The color on your face?

1689
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 3: Changing tasks, Yeah, that's true. Like this, you might be

1690
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: seriously ill. And uh, you know, look in the back

1691
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 3: of the bowman thing and see where they were made

1692
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: so we can see who, you know, hit with some

1693
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 3: sort of form of suit.

1694
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: It says dextros, corn syrup, gumbas softens natural and artificial flavors,

1695
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: artificial colors, and bh T to maintain freshness. Not enough

1696
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 2: VHD my friends. Anyway, Kelly, thanks for coming on. Enjoy

1697
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: the game.

1698
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 3: I will, I will, I will enjoy the rest of

1699
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: your afternoon. And whatever happens to your digestive system after this.

1700
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be wonderful again. Are you you know ive

1701
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: tweet the game. I know you're not like a lot.

1702
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: I've got a I've got a six year old iPhone.

1703
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: There's there's no way. Once I leave the car, the

1704
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: battery immediately catches on fire and dies. But I'll definitely

1705
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 3: write something in the second arrangement. And uh, and we'll

1706
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: have some fun. We'll throw in some old videos, maybe

1707
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 3: the Crisabo, maybe some Glen brags. We'll have cin Cincinnati fun.

1708
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 3: And gosh, this is the two no dunks in one month.

1709
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm a blessed man. So thank you again for having

1710
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: me on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on Kelly appreciate Kelly doret an arrangement.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe best email I get. We've got

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Speaker 2: a segment here called what the hell is this baseball stat?

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 2: What the hell is this stat? Well, I think this

1715
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: stat is pretty self explanatory. The statu is called chase rate.

1716
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: Pitches outside the zone that a hitter swings at.

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: You want to have a low chase rate, would be

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: my guess.

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01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: You're right, sir, Yeah, that would tell I want to

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01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: be scouts, or would be scouts, not want to be scouts,

1721
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 2: would maybe would be scouts that you've got plate discipline

1722
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 2: that you don't swing at balls outside the zone. Now,

1723
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't indicate whether or not you hit the ball,

1724
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: whether or not you hit for bass hits outside the zone,

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01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: but it is an indicator of Yeah, again, like a

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: Wan Soto, that's what he he's got a low chase rate,

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01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: as he said, walks a lot, just has a has

1728
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: a keen eye. And I don't know if that seeps

1729
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: into the umpire's mind when like I think, I personally

1730
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: I know that when Jan Soto takes a pitch and

1731
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: umpires like, well, it's probably a ball. Probably a ball

1732
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: because he's got that great eye. That's what the Los

1733
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers have built their lineup on. That's why they're

1734
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: so hard to beat because they just take so many pitches.

1735
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: They've got great eyes. But that's why our braves here

1736
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: in Atlanta are so fun because they swing at everything.

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: They got a high chase rate, they got some height.

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01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: Some some guys have some high chase rates, like the

1739
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: young guys coming up, but they still make contact. They're

1740
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: still good.

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01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So chase rate has absolutely nothing to do with

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01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: making contact. Is just all about are you swinging at

1743
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: pitches out of the zone, Yes, exactly, And if you're

1744
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: one of the greats, you can still do something with

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: the pitch out of the zone perhaps perhaps, Yeah, you'd

1746
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 1: rather be on the other side, right exactly.

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: It's also it's formally known as O swing outside swing percentage,

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: and Z swing is the opposite pitches inside the zone

1749
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: that a hitter swings that.

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01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: So you don't be taking pitches that are like right

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: down the middle.

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01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: No, and you, yeah, you want a high Z swing percentage,

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01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: but a low O swing percentage. I think it's an interesting,

1754
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: somewhat interesting stat to look at. You guys that guys

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01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: that chase like I immediately think of as a as a

1756
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: fan of the nineties, fan of the Expos, fan of

1757
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: the Angels, Vladimir Guerrero Senior. That guy could do anything

1758
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: with any pitch outside the zone. He'd swing at pitches

1759
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: that would bounce and he would yank him. He would

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01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: go everywhere with it. So he probably had a high

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,839
Speaker 2: chase rate. But again that doesn't tell you the whole story.

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: He probably has a hard barrel rate, I think. I

1763
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: think that's a thing.

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01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:50,879
Speaker 1: Barrels.

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you hit the ball on the barrel like.

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01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Your barrel in the ball contact. Yeah, that's why you

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: wrap it in preseason, know you're aiming.

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01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: There's also a thing called swing percentage rate of swings

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01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: per pitch. Basically, it's just like pitch divided by swings,

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: like how often swinging. I got nothing to say about that,

1771
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: but I'm just bringing it up because there's so many

1772
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: baseball sets it is really hard to whittle down. It's

1773
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: an interesting one.

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01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, working the count's a big deal, especially in today's

1775
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: game where you're trying to I mean, pitchers aren't pitching

1776
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 1: quite as often. I remember when I was younger.

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01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about it.

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, like growing up around Chicago.

1779
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: Frank Thomas was a huge baseball player back in the

1780
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: day the big Hurt. And one of the things with

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01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: him was, not only is he cranking dangers all the time,

1782
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: He's drawn a whole bunch of walks. Unfortunately for me,

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01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 1: I didn't have the natural power of a Frank Thomas,

1784
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: but I tried to co opt his great eye and

1785
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: the plate because getting the walks, just getting a single.

1786
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I think I took it too far,

1787
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: you know, like I was being too selective. My chase

1788
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: rate was too low, so then my my z swing

1789
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: was also too low, because now I'm taking pitches in

1790
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: the zone and then you feel like a fool. You're like, oh,

1791
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: I just missed the pitch that I should have been

1792
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: trying to get out there. Yeah, I wonder if you

1793
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: can go over the edge too far. I wonder if

1794
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 1: I wonder if MLB players are ever like I've been

1795
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: taking too many pitches. I gotta swing at some worse

1796
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: ones here just to try and make something happen.

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01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: That's a very good point. I imagine the grates are

1798
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: the greats, and they will like you, like you you

1799
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: on the in the batter's box, there's a trying to swat.

1800
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: I've got a pretty pretty low average here as I

1801
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: swat at a fly multiple times here in the studio,

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: I'm over I'm over three.

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01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I think we got a high chase rate trying to

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01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: get this one fly right here, right now, I'm the

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: high end of there at the end of the table.

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01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make up for it with a slug in

1807
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: percentage though, I'm going to knock that thing out of

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01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: the classic factory pretty soon. But uh, yeah, there's the guy.

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01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: The good guys are are the good guys for a reason,

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01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Like if if you watch any old Barry Bonds clips,

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01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 2: missed him. The old Berry Bonds clips are just pictures

1812
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: pitching around the zone, not able to come anywhere near

1813
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: the zone because Bonds would sock everything. And he had

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01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: that great eye. So he was walking in minuscule chase rate.

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01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this fly here, JD. So uh catch

1816
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: me here? Nothing nothing anyway.

1817
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: That's a good cut. Here's the question for me, is

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01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: chase rates?

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 2: Oh I got him the middle knuckle.

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01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Look at this right on the middle finger there. Oh

1821
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: he's down. See yeah, fly it looks like you're calling

1822
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: for a pitch here, or maybe a pitch out. Actually

1823
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: there is right there.

1824
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Hard to focus on that fly, get it in between

1825
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: the fingers, No idea.

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: That's only the second grossest thing you did on this show.

1827
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the summer.

1828
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: It's the summer. We're swapping out here.

1829
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Got to try some things, got to eat some gum.

1830
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: It's hard to maintain my finger position like this.

1831
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 1: You popped open that pack that fly, smelled that delicious

1832
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: gum and had to get close to it.

1833
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 2: And you're you can go, you can go. Drown in

1834
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 2: the juices the saliva that I had to spit out.

1835
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: There's your burial.

1836
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Anyway, what a wild ending?

1837
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it isn't it. No, No, this is just the beginning.

1838
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to talk about more stats. Now, that's it.

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01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: That's Here's a.

1840
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Question for you, though. Is chase rate specifically an offensive

1841
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: stat you know what I'm saying, Like, is it only

1842
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: for batters chasing bad pitches or do you do they

1843
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: also track it for pitchers and you want to have

1844
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: a high chase rate, like people swinging at your pitches

1845
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: that are out of the zone getting strikeouts. Oh, they've

1846
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: got to Yeah, it probably goes both ways, why not.

1847
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, there's definitely a well there's yeah, pitches in

1848
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: the zone for pictures versus outside the zone. So there's

1849
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 2: that simple stat. But as far as yeah, plat pictures

1850
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: inducing guys to chase, it's got to be a stat.

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01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called. It's got to be

1852
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 2: a letter for it. We got I mentioned an O

1853
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: swing is E swing as swing percentag?

1854
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1855
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 2: What's pe see chasing? Sure?

1856
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 3: Like?

1857
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean you would want to have a high chase

1858
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: rate on a slider out of the zone.

1859
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: You know, are there stats like that in no breaks?

1860
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: Here's the transition like in Formula one, not in no breaks,

1861
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: but in Formula one or like passing.

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01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Rates, they do have most overtakes. That's a big thing.

1863
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: And I would say the other thing that they track

1864
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: quite regularly that's maybe a little odd as fast as

1865
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: pit stop, you know, like it's you want to get

1866
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: your car into the pits and out as fast as

1867
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you pass can. Yeah, that's I mean, that's a big

1868
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: like team thing that's not necessarily associated with the driver.

1869
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: So that's probably the closest I guess.

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01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 2: That's why it's a good sport. Not a lot of stats.

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01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Two stats, yeah, one stat miles per hour or kilometers

1872
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: per hour, and the other one is how fast can

1873
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: you change the tires? That's it. I'm sure that there's

1874
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: others like downforce. I don't know, but you got to

1875
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: ask Graydon. All I ask. All I know how to

1876
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: do is ask him questions.

1877
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 2: So you guys are talking about any of those stats

1878
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: today on No Breaks, on your episode of No Breaks

1879
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 2: as we record on Wednesday, Nook.

1880
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: Actually maybe something similar. We've got top the top ten

1881
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Gradon's gonna list his top ten corners in Formula one.

1882
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: You know, the tracks are not oval, so they got

1883
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy turns. The turns get names. Yeah,

1884
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: so it'd be like, you know, like the green Monster

1885
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: is a notable baseball feature of a stadium, or when

1886
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Houston used to have like the little hill in center field,

1887
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.

1888
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: M hmm.

1889
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: Maybe that's kind of similar, the intricacies of each and

1890
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: every track.

1891
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, there's a Paski's Poleski's poll. Yeah, that kind

1892
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: of thing for sure. Yeah, that's interesting. So we're going

1893
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: to get the top ten corners, top ten corners, Yeah,

1894
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 2: on No Breaks today, all right, make sure you subscribe

1895
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: to the no Bunks No Bunks. Wow, I did it.

1896
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 2: I did the same thing as Skeets. I combined bunts

1897
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: and dunks. Later this week because we've got is this good?

1898
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Coming up? Another episode with Mattio. And of course, if

1899
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 2: something happens in basketball, if Donovan Mitchell is traded to

1900
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: the New.

1901
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: York Knicks, what do you think about that r J

1902
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 1: Barrett extension?

1903
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 2: I do agree with our man John Holindy. He can't

1904
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: overpay for somebody on their rookie extension these days. So true,

1905
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm happy for r J. Barrett and he's a good

1906
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: enough player to garner that money. Yeah, I'm good with it.

1907
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. He's definitely worth what they're

1908
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: going to be paying, and maybe he will outplay his

1909
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: contract as time goes on. Still some improvements to be made, sure,

1910
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: but better paying him than letting him go somewhere else,

1911
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: I think.

1912
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

1913
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it throws a little wrench in the

1914
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: plans for acquiring Donovan Mitchell, but they could still make

1915
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: it happen if they really wanted to.

1916
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it seems like, yeah, they could still make it happen.

1917
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: If you look at the Knicks and who they're paying

1918
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: their top three, unfortunately, it's not a great team and

1919
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 2: you're paying guys like, you know, number one, number two

1920
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: money in Julius Randall, Donovan Mitchell, and now Jalen Brunson.

1921
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: So you know, when you talk about it like that,

1922
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: it's not ideal because you're paying thirty twenty five and

1923
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 2: whatever they're paying rand On another twenty five ish, that's

1924
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 2: a lot of bucks.

1925
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but people have been asking for the Knicks to

1926
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: just like do normal stuff for a while, and that's

1927
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: kind of what I feel like Leon Rose has been doing,

1928
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: is just making the team a normal, standard basketball team,

1929
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: sort of like where the Nets were when Kevin Durant

1930
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: and Kyrie Irving signed with them, and it was just

1931
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: kind of like they seem to be a little bit

1932
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: of a stable franchise. Maybe that's what New York is

1933
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: trying to do. Build something stable here and then we'll

1934
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: someday be able to acquire a superstar.

1935
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 2: That's true. The Jalen ver Brunson move and a vacuum

1936
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,799
Speaker 2: is good. It's stable. R J. Barrett can be traded.

1937
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 2: As you said, it's fine. It's a rookie extension that

1938
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 2: everyone is signing and it was their first rookie extension.

1939
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: I read this on the Athletic of their first round

1940
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: pick since Charlie Ward.

1941
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Charlie Ward, what.

1942
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety eight or ninety nine?

1943
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Sports star for you two sports star?

1944
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: Did he win the Heisman?

1945
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: He did win the Heisman?

1946
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a quarterback? And then uh, he's a PG

1947
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: for the Knicks.

1948
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 1: A little basketball talk here, huh yeah, why wild stuff.

1949
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 2: If you want more basketball talk, if you want all

1950
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 2: sports talk, you can subscribe to The Athletic for a

1951
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: great price right now, one dollar a month for the

1952
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,520
Speaker 2: next six months. What at the athletic dot com slash

1953
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: no Ducks. That is a heck of a deal. Go

1954
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: over and do that. In the meantime, Trey's got to

1955
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: go to get ready for no Breaks with Graydon in

1956
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: a couple hours. Here the classic factories, we pump out

1957
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: the hits for a now. Clipper bros.

1958
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1959
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember,

1960
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: two fingers into the pinky of your glove will give

1961
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: you a deeper pocket, which is good for an outfielder.

1962
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Big pocket, big pocket, you said, infielders doing it.

1963
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing it. The bigger the pocket, the better the range.

1964
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 3: We got to end on that.

1965
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 2: The bigger the pocket, the better the range, and the

1966
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 2: more change