Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan, I'm fourteen, and I know the NBA.
Speaker 1: On today's show, we have the first senior drafted in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and five NBA draft and an avid
Speaker 1: pickle hater. Lebron said he was one of the best
Speaker 1: shooters he has ever played with. World Champion with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers, Channing Frock. Let's set the scene. The cows
Speaker 1: were found three to one in the NBA Finals and
Speaker 1: somehow you guys win something a team has never done
Speaker 1: in NBA history. I don't think anyone has ever directly
Speaker 1: asked you this, And I just want to know what
Speaker 1: did Braun say in the huddle that made you guys win?
Speaker 2: You know what? And to be honest, it was not
Speaker 2: just Braun talking. I think one guy that doesn't get
Speaker 2: enough credit, who didn't play a minute, was James Jones.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously he's the GM of the
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns. Now he's one of the best, and even
Speaker 2: Braun will tell you he's one of the best minds
Speaker 2: that either one of us has ever been around. And
Speaker 2: I think as a team we were like collectively had
Speaker 2: watched so much film we knew what we needed, right,
Speaker 2: so when you get in those crunch moments, especially versus
Speaker 2: the Warriors, we're so good and we see how good
Speaker 2: they are obviously in the finals. Again, you got to
Speaker 2: play perfect. You have to stick to your game plan
Speaker 2: and you have to believe in what you're doing and
Speaker 2: not get like down on yourself when they go on
Speaker 2: these nine oh runs, seven oh runs, like you know,
Speaker 2: you just have to keep believing. And so I think
Speaker 2: bron was more technical while the other guys. If some
Speaker 2: guy goes in the game, they have to know their assignment,
Speaker 2: they have to know obviously who they're guarding, what our
Speaker 2: game plan is at that time. Are we in his
Speaker 2: own are we in a man? Are we switching? Are
Speaker 2: we then to drop an ice to show and get back?
Speaker 2: Are we a show and go? Like? There are all
Speaker 2: these things that go through and you know in that
Speaker 2: moment it's a team thing. So I help out Kevin
Speaker 2: and Richard and Tristan and Braun helped Kyrie because they're
Speaker 2: doing their own thing, and so it was it was
Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Our communication was was a one.
Speaker 3: So what advice then would you give the Celtics.
Speaker 2: Two things I would tell the Celtics. Number one, you
Speaker 2: have to get layups. The technical way Golden State offense
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest in the history of the game.
Speaker 2: You cannot set your defense up if you take bad shots.
Speaker 2: They have five guys, four guys without Looney Kevon Looney,
Speaker 2: who can bring the ball up and make a play.
Speaker 1: Kevin can't take the ball up. He does it a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I'm like, yes, Kevin, I love when
Speaker 1: he does that.
Speaker 2: He can't sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get so
Speaker 2: scared because back in the day they were like, kive
Speaker 2: the ball to a guard. But you know, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, Kevin has been in X many championships.
Speaker 2: He's a champion. He knows how to play the jo.
Speaker 3: Last game he's been practically perfect, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just talk about understanding your role and
Speaker 2: not being wavered by what people have expectations for you,
Speaker 2: but what your team needs you to win. So if
Speaker 2: you get layups, it gives your team a chance to
Speaker 2: get back on defense, and then you can't turn the
Speaker 2: ball over. And I played on Phoenix Sun's team where
Speaker 2: we were shooting a lot of threes, and so you
Speaker 2: have to take good threes, corner threes. Obviously, there's the
Speaker 2: best shot in basketball, and you have to the ball
Speaker 2: has to find energy, right, which it always does, and
Speaker 2: so you can't play one on one and beat them. Klayt.
Speaker 2: Thompson is too good, Draymond is too good. Steph has
Speaker 2: been playing great defense, Wiggins is amazing, and so you
Speaker 2: have to attack the rim and try to get layups
Speaker 2: as often as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and being someone who has played against Draymond Green
Speaker 1: in the finals, you know we saw him practically try
Speaker 1: to pull down Jim Brown's fans, right, I don't understand
Speaker 1: he tried to pull down his pants, Like did you
Speaker 1: have times when that happened?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think if you really look at
Speaker 2: the play, like Draymond plays with his heart on his sleeve,
Speaker 2: and you know it looks like he's putting down his pasts.
Speaker 2: But if somebody's standing above you, you have nothing to
Speaker 2: grab at. So he just grabbed him in a NBA
Speaker 2: Finals game, obviously, tempers are going to flare if you
Speaker 2: look at Draymond's body language that to be getting of that.
Speaker 2: He really was like, hey, sorry that my feet are
Speaker 2: on you, like relax, chill out. But again, he is
Speaker 2: the emotional leader of the Warriors. If you look at
Speaker 2: the Warriors. They are great dudes. They are nice guys.
Speaker 2: Except for Draymond. He's a great human. You know he
Speaker 2: gave me his shoes, did he He's a great human. When
Speaker 2: he plays, he plays nasty. You know, the private school kids,
Speaker 2: you need that guy that's gonna make you uncomfortable, who's
Speaker 2: gonna talk, who's gonna get you off your risk, get
Speaker 2: the other team off the rhythm, and Stephan clay feet
Speaker 2: off that. But for me, I thought it was just
Speaker 2: at whatever, and I thought Jalen Brown should have leaned
Speaker 2: in way more into that. You already know Draymond has
Speaker 2: a technical. I would have leaned in there. I would
Speaker 2: have took a technical. Yeah, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, Draymond is crucial for the Warriors to win, and.
Speaker 3: The rest weren't gonna see himp that would be.
Speaker 2: But see that's because Jalen Brown didn't lean in on it.
Speaker 2: I would have tried to fight him. I would have
Speaker 2: got a technical myself.
Speaker 1: I mean he did, but it wasn't. I am sick.
Speaker 1: Now let's move on. So I'm fourteen years old, I'm
Speaker 1: in eighth grade. Well, actually I have one more day
Speaker 1: left of eighth grade.
Speaker 3: I'm excited tight okay, high school, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: But I want to know who you were at fourteen,
Speaker 1: because you know, we know who the world knows who
Speaker 1: you are now. But I want to know things about
Speaker 1: you when you were fourteen. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: God, oh boy, I was still in the band. I
Speaker 2: was playing the trumpet.
Speaker 1: Oh you were a band kid, A big band kid.
Speaker 2: Well, Vince Carter was a band kid till college, which
Speaker 2: is crazy. He was the marching band leader in Florida.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I remember that, but I do.
Speaker 1: I like those random facts.
Speaker 2: Random, thank you, thank you. I think I was six
Speaker 2: four six six, so I was really tall, really hadn't
Speaker 2: practiced that much beast. I would play outside, wasn't on
Speaker 2: an AAU team, wasn't really like passionate about basketball. Loved it,
Speaker 2: loved playing, but was just kind of a big goofball,
Speaker 2: like probably more interested in like power Rangers and video games.
Speaker 2: And so you were a nerd playing it big. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm still a nerd.
Speaker 1: I have, like I know, but you're like a little
Speaker 1: cluer to the nerd. I mean, you've won an NBA championship.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm
Speaker 2: a nerd. I could be. It's you know, the duality
Speaker 2: and personalities are pretty interesting. You know. I love Star
Speaker 2: Wars and Star Trek and comic books and Marvel movies
Speaker 2: and all those type of things. But yeah, I was
Speaker 2: that guy. And then freshman year or ninth grade is
Speaker 2: when I really started to kind of figure out who
Speaker 2: I was. So, you know, growing two inches every year
Speaker 2: was tough. I was not good. Couldn't dunk, couldn't run backwards.
Speaker 2: I was just a big old goofball who is super skinny,
Speaker 2: who like comic books.
Speaker 1: I can definitely tell that you've done podcasting before because
Speaker 1: you literally answered every single question on my list without
Speaker 1: me even asking you.
Speaker 3: So thank you that that made it way easier for me.
Speaker 3: So if you never played, when did you start to
Speaker 3: play AAU?
Speaker 2: Then? So my parents made me so in a weird way,
Speaker 2: it worked out well in Chandler, Arizona Junior High was
Speaker 2: seven eight nine, and then you would go to a
Speaker 2: feeder school adoptson you know, high school, which was ten
Speaker 2: eleven twelve.
Speaker 3: Then you switched to Saint Mary's.
Speaker 2: I went to Saint Mary's in tenth grade, which is
Speaker 2: a private school, and so I took the test. I
Speaker 2: never had a you know, wear uniform. And I remember
Speaker 2: I took the test to go there. And there's another
Speaker 2: school called Brophy. It's all boys. And the coach from
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's, the JV coach, an assistant head coach for
Speaker 2: the varsity team, was like, hey, are you coming to school?
Speaker 2: And I was like, maybe if I take the test,
Speaker 2: and so he was like, all right, you're going to
Speaker 2: come to this game and I want you to see
Speaker 2: what it's like. We're playing our rivals. So as we're
Speaker 2: driving back forty five minutes to where I was living
Speaker 2: that time, Chandler, Arizona East Valley, I tell my dad.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, whatever school wins, that's for school.
Speaker 2: I'm going to. His place was packed. It was standing
Speaker 2: room only, and Saint Mary's won on a free throw tip.
Speaker 2: As they won, he celebrated with his team. The coach
Speaker 2: Career looked at me and says, I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We have a Saint Mary's AU team and the two
Speaker 2: guards that were my age freshmen were starting for the
Speaker 2: varsity team, so I had to start practicing with them.
Speaker 2: So I went from not really practicing to practicing with
Speaker 2: guys that have been playing varsity for a whole year,
Speaker 2: and I had to catch up pretty quick. I broke
Speaker 2: my hand that year, and I didn't play. I think
Speaker 2: I only played two games my sophomore year, and then
Speaker 2: I only played junior and senior year and here we are.
Speaker 3: He must or year.
Speaker 2: Uh ish. I started to get confidence. I broke my wrists, right,
Speaker 2: I like broke my hand, and then I just it
Speaker 2: like meant something like I would wake up like how
Speaker 2: can I get better today? And then it became I
Speaker 2: don't obsessive isn't the right word. It just became intoxicating,
Speaker 2: seeing like the work, the result of the work after
Speaker 2: a week, after two weeks, after two months, like oh man,
Speaker 2: I have muscles like I get donk with two hands,
Speaker 2: like I'm dog. These dudes like I was starting to
Speaker 2: run better and that was intoxicating, and so I think
Speaker 2: that kind of fueled me to just always try to
Speaker 2: work harder than everyone else.
Speaker 1: So once you ended up joining that Saint Mary's AAU team,
Speaker 1: who was the best player that you ever played against
Speaker 1: on another AAU team.
Speaker 2: Oh, Tyson Chandler, not even close. What went at NBA.
Speaker 2: He was seven foot just in the fastest big I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't even explain to you. He took three steps
Speaker 2: and he was all the way down to court and
Speaker 2: he would dunk and I remember his head was up
Speaker 2: by the ram and I was like, oh, y'all want
Speaker 2: me to play this. I was like, I could barely
Speaker 2: run backwards. And I remember he played and it was
Speaker 2: just like left and right and I was just I
Speaker 2: couldn't shoot, I couldn't do anything. But we were younger,
Speaker 2: and obviously he went at NBA, and obviously I had
Speaker 2: to go four years of college. But yeah, he was
Speaker 2: an absolute monster, a demon.
Speaker 1: So did you ever get asked to like buke up
Speaker 1: when you started?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay, when you're asked to book up?
Speaker 3: What do you eat? Like you just go to McDonald's
Speaker 3: every day?
Speaker 2: No, guy, I have so many funny stories. So my
Speaker 2: dad was super old school and like you know, didn't
Speaker 2: really he was pretty stubborn, didn't want to listen to anybody.
Speaker 2: So he would wake me up at like two or
Speaker 2: three in the morning. He'd make me drink a milkshake
Speaker 2: out of a blender with like four raw eggs. Protein
Speaker 2: shake ice cream.
Speaker 3: Okay, so not like an in and out like milkshake,
Speaker 3: like a.
Speaker 2: Protein shake milkshake. And then when I got to college,
Speaker 2: there's this place called Blackjack Pizza and there were five dollars.
Speaker 2: They gave me a card for like five hundred bucks
Speaker 2: to say, you have to eat a whole pizza every
Speaker 2: single night.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So that's how I went from two oh five.
Speaker 3: Pepperoni or cheese or pineapple or what.
Speaker 2: You better not put a pineapple on a pizza.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go into that now, pineapple or pizza.
Speaker 2: Or no, I am karate chopping the pizza out of
Speaker 2: your hand. That's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I only okay, cheese a pepperoni, like when
Speaker 1: people go like it's too much like the white pizza.
Speaker 2: I like white pizza. I'm a New York guy. I
Speaker 2: like white pizza.
Speaker 1: I like, well, like parmesan cheese on pizza. But that's
Speaker 1: a good topic.
Speaker 2: Cheese easy exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like everything, just
Speaker 2: no olives. I'm pretty I'm pretty easy going.
Speaker 1: I hate alive too, They're disgusting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you like pickles.
Speaker 2: I think the pickles are the devil's fruit. They're the
Speaker 2: worst things on earth.
Speaker 3: No way, you just said that.
Speaker 2: No way, No, I promise you. Anybody that's known me
Speaker 2: my whole life, I think pickles are the devil.
Speaker 1: Okay, if someone were to ask me if there was
Speaker 1: one food you would eat for the rest of your life,
Speaker 1: I would say pickles.
Speaker 3: No hesitation, I'm not kidding. I love pickles.
Speaker 2: I would rather eat a cactus.
Speaker 3: You have no taste.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 1: So when was the first time that you sort of
Speaker 1: were like, wait, I think I think you can make
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 2: Oh oh boy. My junior year of college.
Speaker 3: Oh so it wasn't until college.
Speaker 1: So nothing about like going to Arizona and like that
Speaker 1: didn't make you believe anything.
Speaker 2: Well, I committed to Arizona my junior year. Right early
Speaker 2: in my junior year high school, they were like, well, Channing,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have the red shirt. And I tell this
Speaker 2: story probably too much is I School was over April thirtieth.
Speaker 2: I went to U of a May second. So I
Speaker 2: was taking summer classes so that I could learn to lift,
Speaker 2: I could run hoop and so I was there every
Speaker 2: single day. And I was there with a guy named
Speaker 2: Dennis Lattimorn him and I would play one on one.
Speaker 2: Uh and he was six eight two forty, just yacked
Speaker 2: up as a man. You know, he was tatted up
Speaker 2: at you know, eighteen nineteen years old. You know, he
Speaker 2: was a really good player. He was dogging me one
Speaker 2: on one, and then when he would go back and
Speaker 2: go to sleep, I would come to the gym and
Speaker 2: work out, and the guys that were there at night
Speaker 2: were like Miles Simon, Mike Baby, Jason Terry, Gilbert Arenez,
Speaker 2: you know, Luke Walton, Jason Gardner, Richard. That was a
Speaker 2: real competition, real but they were like helping me understand
Speaker 2: the game and do workouts and really kind of like
Speaker 2: teaching me. I had never been taught by somebody of
Speaker 2: that caliber. And then I ended up starting half that year,
Speaker 2: ended up starting the rest, and then the rest is history.
Speaker 2: But I remember he was dogging me like three games
Speaker 2: eleven nothing all three games, and then now I was
Speaker 2: beating him at the end of the year eleven to ten,
Speaker 2: eleven nine, and just keep working. I went from two
Speaker 2: h five to two thirty five in one year.
Speaker 1: Been saying, I feel like this is making me think
Speaker 1: about I don't know if you've heard the story about
Speaker 1: how Bradley Bial sort of took Jason Tatum like under
Speaker 1: his wing and would take him to all the NBA practices,
Speaker 1: And I was always I thought that that was so
Speaker 1: interesting to now obviously see them playing against each other, right,
Speaker 1: and not anything against Bradley Bial, but Jason's almost surpassed him,
Speaker 1: and that's such an interesting thing to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Bradley Beal is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: players to watch, and I think Jason Tatum is in
Speaker 2: a different situation where it's a little bit more stability.
Speaker 2: Jason tatums first couple of years ago is the Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference finals.
Speaker 1: Of course, I mean Jason Tatam has a supporting cast
Speaker 1: and Bradley Beial has porzingis.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct? I think Bradley Beal is a really good player.
Speaker 2: I think Bradley Beal will be We'll see the best
Speaker 2: version of Bradley Beal if he leaves Washington and turns
Speaker 2: into a Ray allen Ish type guy.
Speaker 1: I have to say, I think I disagree with you
Speaker 1: really because okay, you know last season he him and
Speaker 1: stepf are going at it for the scoring title.
Speaker 3: Two years ago, two years ago, yes, two years ago.
Speaker 1: And you know, on other teams, He's not going to
Speaker 1: be the guy that gets the ball. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be more of if he goes to somewhere that's more
Speaker 1: of a championship contender. You know, he'll be the second man,
Speaker 1: and there he can't perform like he did in Washington,
Speaker 1: but he'll definitely probably have more success.
Speaker 2: So what's more important? So he's already paid, he's already
Speaker 2: shown he can lead the league in scoring. He's not
Speaker 2: been to the playoffs in a while. So I think
Speaker 2: at this point, and if I'm just speaking for him,
Speaker 2: do we respect Chris Middleton more now that he's a champion.
Speaker 3: That's true, Chris Middleton probably wouldn't be an All Star by.
Speaker 2: Himself, correct, Right, And so what I'm saying is Bradley
Speaker 2: Beal will never see the best version to Bradley Beal
Speaker 2: until we see him with the bright lights. There are
Speaker 2: different lights, right, There's the bulbs during the regular season
Speaker 2: that people put in, and then they got these real
Speaker 2: fancy led lights. Yeah, during the finals, and this is
Speaker 2: where we see the best version. We saw the best
Speaker 2: version of Al Horford game one, we saw the best
Speaker 2: version of Steph game two, and then tonight we're going
Speaker 2: to see the best version of whether that's a coach,
Speaker 2: whether that's Derek White Andrew Wiggots.
Speaker 3: I hope we don't see the best version of Derek White.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see.
Speaker 1: That made me crying.
Speaker 3: God, that was the best shooting fourth quote I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Oh ridiculous. They were all fire.
Speaker 3: That's never gonna happen again.
Speaker 2: Oh never.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, knocking on wood. Now let's move on to
Speaker 1: our next segment. So we've talked about you when you
Speaker 1: were fourteen, but I now want to know about you,
Speaker 1: not hopefully, So what is the most memorable play of
Speaker 1: your career?
Speaker 2: Of my career, it's when I had back to back
Speaker 2: game winners in twenty ten. So the first game we're
Speaker 2: playing in Indiana, I was on fire, felt really good,
Speaker 2: hit the game winner in front of my old coach, right,
Speaker 2: Nate McMillan, which I always you know, and I when
Speaker 2: you play eighty two games, you need anything to like
Speaker 2: get you going right, you know, put a little stoke
Speaker 2: to fire a little bit. Yeah. And then the second game,
Speaker 2: we played New Jersey, and I was getting like emotionally exhausted,
Speaker 2: right because you're just living on the top of the
Speaker 2: mountain and eventually you gotta come down. So I was
Speaker 2: having a crappy game, like an awful game, and you know,
Speaker 2: everyone else was kind of gas too. So we're down
Speaker 2: three and coach was like, well, it can't get any
Speaker 2: worse for you today, so we're gonna draw this player
Speaker 2: for you. And I'm looking next to some of my
Speaker 2: favorite players I grew up watching Steve Nash, Grant Hill,
Speaker 2: and they're like, Channing, you're gonna make it. So ge
Speaker 2: Hill is my guy, and I would like to say
Speaker 2: it's like my mentor. He's like, Channing, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: you open. I was like what, But I was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, my dad always said listen, one day you're
Speaker 2: the front of the goat, the other day you're the
Speaker 2: back right. And I like, hei, literally we're in this
Speaker 2: ran this play called Memphis Twist, and I popped out
Speaker 2: and he just threw the ball to my hand and
Speaker 2: I just shot it and it went in, and I
Speaker 2: was just like what in the world, Like how wild
Speaker 2: these games are? End of winning, But that was probably
Speaker 2: one of those moments where I was like, do my
Speaker 2: teammates believe in me? Some people I grew up watching
Speaker 2: giving me a chance, right, Obviously you could have gave
Speaker 2: it to Steve or Jason Richardson or Amari or any
Speaker 2: of these guys, but they chose me, and so I
Speaker 2: just I don't take that for granted.
Speaker 1: The season, when Steph came back after he broke his hand,
Speaker 1: we were like we got blown out by the Nets.
Speaker 1: We I'm saying we because I, you know, I'm basically
Speaker 1: like one of the guys, but you know, I remember
Speaker 1: we were we just got blown up by Brooklyn, and
Speaker 1: you know, I did my emotional thing where I was
Speaker 1: like sobbing and my dad was like, you need to
Speaker 1: come down. It's a basketball team, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is not this is bad. And then I think
Speaker 1: we were playing the Bulls and I was like screaming
Speaker 1: at the TV, like give it to Steph, give it
Speaker 1: to step give it a step and we were tied
Speaker 1: up and they gave it to Damian Lee and he
Speaker 1: made a buzzer beater and I was like, oh my God,
Speaker 1: like wow, oh, like I just can't believe this because
Speaker 1: I'd put everything on Steph. And then Damian Lee was
Speaker 1: the one who like saved the day. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe for guys like that. It's because that's
Speaker 1: with Steph that happens every day, but with Damian Lee,
Speaker 1: like that was his moment.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. I think as a role player, that's
Speaker 2: the thing that's the hardest part. It's like Steph knows
Speaker 2: he's gonna get x amount of shots, play x amount
Speaker 2: of minutes. As a role player, it's like Steph's gonna
Speaker 2: get twenty shots. He just got to run around like
Speaker 2: a crazy man for him. Yeah, Damian Lee, Channing Fry
Speaker 2: role players, Derek White, we may get six or seven.
Speaker 2: So like again, James Jones in practice was like, no
Speaker 2: warm up shots. The minute you step on the court,
Speaker 2: that's when you're shooting starts because mentally you got to
Speaker 2: go I don't have a chance to warm up when
Speaker 2: I come off the bench. So we would have drills,
Speaker 2: you would do your you know, your lifting, and then
Speaker 2: as soon as you get on the court, somebody throw
Speaker 2: your ball. You got to make six out of seven
Speaker 2: from seven spots. So you got to train your attitude too.
Speaker 2: I stay on fire.
Speaker 3: I mean, Lebron did say you were one of the
Speaker 3: best shooters he ever played with, so.
Speaker 2: We yeah, did he did. I appreciate it. You know,
Speaker 2: I appreciate my guy looking out for me, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it means a lot. He played with a
Speaker 2: lot of really good shooters.
Speaker 1: You were one of the best.
Speaker 2: I try. As a seven footer, I try, I try.
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're saying you're like a lengthy kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what advice would you give to James Wiseman, Because as
Speaker 1: a Warriors fan, I'm looking at him and I really
Speaker 1: really want him to be good because I love Kevin Looney.
Speaker 1: But we're pretty small and we I mean, when Robert
Speaker 1: Williams the Third is in the paint like we see,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we need a little bit of hype. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think watching you know, he's recovering now, but
Speaker 1: when he did play in his rookie year, I saw
Speaker 1: some moments where I was just like, I think he
Speaker 1: just needs to grow into himself. And I feel like
Speaker 1: you could relate to that. Maybe when you were a rookie.
Speaker 2: He is already far and away a lot better than
Speaker 2: I ever was.
Speaker 1: He just well, you were first team All Rookie he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well he's also I'll say this, he has an
Speaker 2: put ten thousand hours into the basketball court. No he
Speaker 2: has not because he can't. He's always hurt, right, So
Speaker 2: if you don't have time to make mistakes because you're
Speaker 2: still trying to learn yourself.
Speaker 1: Also, he did have the COVID year during college, so
Speaker 1: that he can't go to the gym.
Speaker 3: Well, actually I guess he could.
Speaker 2: But with other people, Yeah, you can't play. You're not
Speaker 2: under duress or under fire. You have a chance to
Speaker 2: make mistakes. But I think you know, we get sometimes
Speaker 2: we get prisoner at the moment, especially as fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's twenty I think twenty years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we didn't see Joel Ebide till his third year.
Speaker 2: This is his seventh year, and he's been healthy, and
Speaker 2: he's developed, and he's had serious losses. He's had been ridiculed,
Speaker 2: he's been underneath the fire, and now we're seeing the
Speaker 2: best version of himself. Big guys usually developed later. Also,
Speaker 2: I think Golden State understands the value of him in
Speaker 2: wanting him for the longevity. If they get him at
Speaker 2: twenty one for five years, that's scary, scary.
Speaker 1: I think that's also important because as Stephen, Dray and
Speaker 1: Clay get older, they start to not be able to
Speaker 1: do as much so we need a young guy like
Speaker 1: him to really.
Speaker 2: Step up, right, totally.
Speaker 1: Well, we also have Jonathan Kamingo, who right, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's insane, insane as athletes, and so is Moses Moody.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a really good group of young guys.
Speaker 2: I think, really good. The team's gonna be scary, and
Speaker 2: think that's that next generation that understands the length of
Speaker 2: the season, has had good culture, understand getting experienced in
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, Western Conference Finals. They that culture goes
Speaker 2: into the next generation as they rise up.
Speaker 1: For these guys, even though they're not getting that many minutes,
Speaker 1: they know what it's like to be in the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: which is something that you know, we've seen this with
Speaker 1: so many guys where then they do all the work
Speaker 1: to get there, and then they get there and then
Speaker 1: they don't know what to do because it's a different
Speaker 1: thing than the fifth game of an eighty two game season.
Speaker 2: It is its own it's its own season. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that is an honest true that anybody's been the finals
Speaker 2: will tell you have been twice. It's like, once you
Speaker 2: get done with the Eastern and Western Conference finals, when
Speaker 2: you get to the finals, it's its own thing entirely,
Speaker 2: and the play from October all the way to June
Speaker 2: is crazy. I remember we wanted our championship. We want
Speaker 2: it on June twenty second, So like, think about another
Speaker 2: eighteen days from now. That's how long the season is.
Speaker 2: So have you taken care of your body? What are
Speaker 2: you doing? Are you you know that the ice tubs
Speaker 2: that you were supposed to do in December are starting
Speaker 2: to catch up to you? Are you mentally here if
Speaker 2: somebody gets hurt? Are you ready to go? Do you
Speaker 2: watch film? Do you surround yourself with people who are
Speaker 2: not telling you what you should be doing, but telling you,
Speaker 2: like what does your team need and how you could
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a little different, but I want
Speaker 1: to know what was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Big Shack. So two thousand and five, obviously Shack
Speaker 2: is in Miami. Before the game we're doing warm ups.
Speaker 3: Were you playing the Garden or.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I was in the Garden Star I was
Speaker 2: playing for the New York next So I got drafted
Speaker 2: I know eighth. Well, thank you. You know listeners, they
Speaker 2: may not know it's a long time ago. Thousand and five?
Speaker 2: Is he was the eighth.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it played all four years of AIRSONA.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just yes, I did. I appreciate dropped the knowledge.
Speaker 2: I am drop it. So we're in warm ups and
Speaker 2: I'm like looking like, holy crap, Shack is huge and
Speaker 2: I was playing a little bit of center. So I
Speaker 2: was six ten, but you're the same. Hi, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no different. I was six ten two thirty. He's seven
Speaker 2: foot two seventy to eighty.
Speaker 3: But you're listed as seven feet.
Speaker 2: Now I am Now I grew. I grew two inches
Speaker 2: in the league.
Speaker 3: Oh you grew yeah?
Speaker 2: Wild? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild. Yes. So I did
Speaker 2: not cheat.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Do doctors understand how that happened?
Speaker 2: Now? Maybe you know yoga stretching grosspurt hmm.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's giving yoga a little too much.
Speaker 2: Great, yoga is good for stretching.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to put in some work to yoga.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do a little bit from yoga and get your
Speaker 2: spine right.
Speaker 3: I still want to be able to dunk by myself.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: If you could, that would be crazy. That would be
Speaker 2: the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: It would maybe I could get like bouncy shoot, like
Speaker 1: I can dunk on the trampoline.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's tight. I'll give you that. I'll give that.
Speaker 2: You're a tiny person.
Speaker 3: Oh I can do like windmills on a six foot basket.
Speaker 2: Dunk ball's the best. You used to play that in
Speaker 2: seventh grade.
Speaker 3: Probably harder on a ten foot basket.
Speaker 2: I am actually very impressed. Well, mails are hard to
Speaker 2: So we're in warm ups and Shack grasps my arm
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, little Fry, I need your jersey
Speaker 2: after the game. And I'm like what. He's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: my son loves you. I don't know why, I don't
Speaker 2: know what. He likes your game at Arizona. Give me
Speaker 2: a jersey after the game. And he just goes to
Speaker 2: warm ups. So I'm like, oh crap, Shack. Shack likes me.
Speaker 2: So I'm giddy.
Speaker 1: Oh so, since when are you, little Fry. You're not
Speaker 1: that little, really, I.
Speaker 2: Know, but I'm little to him. I'm a twig to
Speaker 2: this man, this behemoth of a man to him.
Speaker 3: I think everyone's little to him though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're playing a third quarter and we're winning,
Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter comes and Larry Brown, our coach
Speaker 2: at the time. It's like, Chang and go guard Shack.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, Shack is my guy. You know,
Speaker 2: take it easy on me, right here.
Speaker 3: Your guy off the court.
Speaker 2: Off the court. Yeah, Shaq looks at me, calls his
Speaker 2: play and it's like it's winning time, little fry. And
Speaker 2: I remember he elbowed me so hard and knocked me
Speaker 2: into the stanchion. And next thing you know, I see
Speaker 2: his two big Shackgnosis shoes or whatever he was wearing,
Speaker 2: like I'm behind the basket, like what like what truck?
Speaker 2: Does it mean?
Speaker 3: Did he help you up?
Speaker 2: No? No?
Speaker 3: But did you give him the jersey?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I had to give him a jersey. I had
Speaker 2: to give him a k for the kids, for the kids.
Speaker 1: Like if that would have happened to me, I would
Speaker 1: have I don't even care if it was for his kids.
Speaker 2: But it was just like I realized at that moment,
Speaker 2: I have no business trying to guard centers. And then
Speaker 2: I had the guard Like, yeah, Ming, I've had a guard,
Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Bayam, Pogasalt, Tim Duncan, some of the
Speaker 2: biggest guys in the league. I'm just like, what what,
Speaker 2: why do y'all have me guarding this, dude, I'm not
Speaker 2: belt like this. As I started shooting threes, yeah, I said, hey,
Speaker 2: if you get three shots and I get three shots,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make two at of three, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: up two points for six.
Speaker 3: Do you think that you were ever part of someone's
Speaker 3: welcome to league moment?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Do you ever remember being like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: feel like what I did to that kid? Like I
Speaker 3: think that that may.
Speaker 2: Have been Kevin Love. I hope he sees this.
Speaker 1: Oh, your teammate, Yeah, kay Love watched this.
Speaker 2: I barbecued him one time in Minnesota. They had an
Speaker 2: awful scout. I don't know what their game plan was,
Speaker 2: but I saw it and film and was just like
Speaker 2: licking my chops. I didn't dunk on him. When I say, honest, head,
Speaker 2: that's more like more than seven threes in a game.
Speaker 3: I think I hit like nine, like you a little
Speaker 3: Curry action, yeo, yeah.
Speaker 2: Curry before Curry. I was more like, yeah, he's like
Speaker 2: original Curry and more like a yellow Curry.
Speaker 3: No, it was more like it was your Dell Curry moment, right.
Speaker 2: Dell Curry moment? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, I mean it
Speaker 2: was just bad defense, and then I just took advantage
Speaker 2: of it. And then just I used to like Kevin
Speaker 2: was so good. He is still good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's moved into a different role now, I guess
Speaker 1: it's different way.
Speaker 2: I like this role for him as a leader, as
Speaker 2: a champion. It's great for him and his maturity and
Speaker 2: his personality to bestow. Like you see how good the
Speaker 2: Cavs were without injuries.
Speaker 1: When comes back, I'm excited to see what the Cavs
Speaker 1: have in store.
Speaker 2: You'll be interesting what they do with him because I
Speaker 2: think the way the league is, especially in the Eastern Conference,
Speaker 2: it's hard to play smaller guards. Right. As much as
Speaker 2: I love Lamello, he's gonna take him a few years
Speaker 2: to be Like. The smallest guard in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 2: is Kyle Lowry. But Kyle Lowry's built like a like
Speaker 2: a tree stump, right, But he's takes charges guard posts. Right.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you've seen all the Kyle Lowry memes them
Speaker 3: by that.
Speaker 2: I've seen all of them. I've seen all of them.
Speaker 2: I've also played against him.
Speaker 3: I just say the eighth grade boys like that.
Speaker 2: I like that for sure. Yeah that's limous, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they just got to get more physical because Jannasy is
Speaker 2: the point guard for for Milwaukee, and so is Drew Holliday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's the smallest guy on the court, right, so
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. I think Collin's a really
Speaker 2: good player. I like I love Darius Garland, I like
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton.
Speaker 1: I wonder if Darius Garland will be as sort of
Speaker 1: explosive with Consexton on the court, but it's hard to
Speaker 1: have two of them. I think maybe it works better
Speaker 1: for Darius when he's the first option.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if you look at the spacing right,
Speaker 2: I think Collins's natural position is to have the ball.
Speaker 2: I'd liken him to a Tony Parker style basketball player,
Speaker 2: where they get their momentum and their feel for the
Speaker 2: game by attacking the rim and trying to score, and
Speaker 2: then once they get double teams, it's easy for them
Speaker 2: to kick out. But Darius plays as more of a
Speaker 2: I would say Chris Paulish type, crazy underrated bag and
Speaker 2: then just tries to get his teammates open and now
Speaker 2: as the game slows down, him and Jared Allen remind
Speaker 2: me of a young Tyson Chandler and Chris Ball from
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Hornets.
Speaker 3: So Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith is known for his hot takes, But have you
Speaker 1: ever seen takes hotter than Kelly ub re Jr. I
Speaker 1: really don't think you've ever seen takes harder than Kelly Junior.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you it's just not possible. Nothing is
Speaker 1: harder than him.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I knew you were going there. Everybody
Speaker 2: likes that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew I was going here. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I do like him. He may or may not be
Speaker 1: you know, my lock screen. I just I gotta be
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 2: Lord, have mercy. Wait he plays for Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I liked this role.
Speaker 1: But I have to say I love Kelly. But when
Speaker 1: he was on the Warriors, I was like, I'd rather
Speaker 1: you go somewhere else. Yeah, it's great, it just wasn't really.
Speaker 2: No, I think he needs to play more of an
Speaker 2: upstyle game.
Speaker 1: When he was on the Suns before, like Devin Booker
Speaker 1: and Deandret and and Chris Paul, he was good there
Speaker 1: and he is good now. But the Pornets are more
Speaker 1: of a different Yes, so these takes are gonna be
Speaker 1: hotter than Kelly. You're bridginger, So I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: a question, and I just want you to give me
Speaker 1: a really hot answer. Okay with like green eyes.
Speaker 2: Okay, green eyes, green ice or.
Speaker 3: Blue either works or like a mix.
Speaker 2: A nice yes, right, my kids have hazel eyes.
Speaker 3: Thank you, welcome.
Speaker 1: Okay, So which MBA player is the best dressed?
Speaker 2: My style? It's Kevin Love my style.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not like a Kyle Kuzma Giants sweater?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that's too much. Man, I
Speaker 2: get it, but I think that's a little too much
Speaker 2: for me my style.
Speaker 3: Okay. Who has the best shoe game.
Speaker 2: Their signature shoe or just who has the best shoes?
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard. When I asked him that question, he said
Speaker 1: Lebron and no I understood. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: more because his own shoes. I think, just like in general,
Speaker 1: who just.
Speaker 2: Like oh PJ Chuck.
Speaker 1: That's why I mean, he has a house shoes. That's
Speaker 1: the right answer. Thank you. I'm glad we agree on
Speaker 1: that. That's the right answer. I don't like when anyone else
Speaker 1: gives any other answer. That's the right thing.
Speaker 2: No, that is the only answer.
Speaker 1: So who is the funniest.
Speaker 2: MP Anthony Edwards by far not even Chris.
Speaker 1: Agree his press conferences. I'm like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But no, it doesn't. He never answers the question. He
Speaker 2: just tells you what he wants to tell you, and
Speaker 2: he's super honest.
Speaker 1: The other day I saw this TikTok of him on
Speaker 1: some movie, well for his new movie with Adam Sandler
Speaker 1: and Hustle. Yeah, exactly, and they were like, oh, what's
Speaker 1: your all time starting five? And he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: myself and then that and he didn't even say like
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan or Lebron And I'm like.
Speaker 2: No, he said Alan iverson KD Lebron himself.
Speaker 3: And Okay, I'm gotta be washer Kobe, he.
Speaker 2: Said, no, Shack. Maybe it was a funny list. Awesome list,
Speaker 2: but a funny list.
Speaker 3: It was the funniest.
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be quite the team for sure. So
Speaker 1: which NBA player do you think could run for president?
Speaker 3: And when?
Speaker 2: Oh? And when is this all time? Or is this
Speaker 2: like right now you can do whatever? So all time
Speaker 2: it's Grant Hill, Okay, And then I think now, uh
Speaker 2: would be a guy like CJ. McCollum. Yeah, big time politician.
Speaker 2: Vibes shout out here, it is ninety one.
Speaker 3: I know, no, I feel you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very just calm and like I feel like
Speaker 1: he could just go out there.
Speaker 2: He's very intellectual, very well.
Speaker 3: Spoken, and unfortunately he has never been an All Star.
Speaker 2: Not fair, never been, which is you know, sucks being
Speaker 2: in the West sometimes and then.
Speaker 1: Well I feel like there's guys that he could have
Speaker 1: gotten picked over some seasons.
Speaker 3: But sometimes I think Lebron.
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, like there's so many
Speaker 1: Lebron lovers, but then there's so many Lebron haters that
Speaker 1: people wouldn't vote for him for sure.
Speaker 2: Right. He is very polarizing. There's no real middle ground,
Speaker 2: and that's why it's a billionaire. When you get to
Speaker 2: be that polarizing, whether people just hate you or support
Speaker 2: you regardless, then that means you've done it right.
Speaker 1: Also, the people that hate him give him the most
Speaker 1: of his money, Like the times the amount of times
Speaker 1: I bought Lebron jerseys to like be like you suck
Speaker 1: and write it on it. I didn't actually do that,
Speaker 1: but like to be like, you know, because I do
Speaker 1: this thing where I like hang up my stuff, like
Speaker 1: my Warrior jersey before the game, to like manifest and
Speaker 1: you know, like I bought Lebron jerseys to be like
Speaker 1: artists for like some competition or like I have to say,
Speaker 1: like you know, I've I've worn Lebron's before.
Speaker 2: Something that Kobe said for he passed away was like,
Speaker 2: you want one hundred percent of the audience. Fifty percent
Speaker 2: of them are going to watch to see you lose,
Speaker 2: and fifty percent are gonna watch to see you win. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you get one hundred percent of the audience is
Speaker 2: all you want, right, So take on that hate because
Speaker 2: they're still watching when things are quiet. That means you suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think Lebron will ever get to that point.
Speaker 1: No, hopefully not fingers god, unless he like waits till
Speaker 1: not just Brownie plays, but Bryce plays, and then he'll
Speaker 1: be like a literal I.
Speaker 2: Will get him off the court.
Speaker 3: So ill can you driving there? Because I probably won't
Speaker 3: be able to drive by then.
Speaker 1: Well, actually that's in two years, so maybe all I can, oh,
Speaker 1: but it depends if I pass my test. I may not.
Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous for that. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just feel like I may be a bad driver.
Speaker 2: This is La. Everyone's a bad driver.
Speaker 3: That's true, that's good.
Speaker 2: Just don't nothing.
Speaker 1: I may get in a bunch of crashes, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: So we can see this picture right here, right correct,
Speaker 1: Manut Ball Muggsy Bugs.
Speaker 3: That's the point.
Speaker 1: But one time I was in Muggy Bugs's Instagram post anyway,
Speaker 1: so basically to this or that situation, Muggsy and Manut
Speaker 1: very different, but teammates.
Speaker 3: Let's go on.
Speaker 1: I just want you to answer. Last time, we did
Speaker 1: a lot of explaining, which is fine. I love the explaining,
Speaker 1: but now we just got to go fast. Okay, last shot,
Speaker 1: I'm Jered Coche. Lakers are sixers, oh Lakers, Nike or Adidas,
Speaker 1: Nike All Day Gatorade or Power the.
Speaker 2: Blue Powerade it's the only powerade I like.
Speaker 3: I know, but cucumber Gatorade is disgusting.
Speaker 2: That's the only type of Mountain Blue Gatorade is pretty
Speaker 2: good too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, you know what I do, sort of like
Speaker 3: blue Power.
Speaker 1: But not red.
Speaker 2: Not red is disgusting.
Speaker 3: Great, okay, Instagram or.
Speaker 2: TikTok oh Instagram. I don't even have a.
Speaker 1: TikTok until we're going to make tiktoks together and go ral. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right. No, you cannot deny it. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: it sweet or salty, Oh salty, interesting mj or broun
Speaker 1: uh broun, Zion or jaw oh jaw all.
Speaker 3: Day long until Zion.
Speaker 2: It's a big what if, Steph or magic?
Speaker 1: If you there's only one right answer in this podcast.
Speaker 2: Booth, Oh my god, that's a hard question. I have
Speaker 2: to go magic. I have to go magic. He transcend
Speaker 2: that position.
Speaker 3: Changed the ambassaball forever.
Speaker 1: And you know, Steph is.
Speaker 2: You're not wrong exactly, but I'm gonna that's fine.
Speaker 3: Not said great point guard for sure, but no one
Speaker 3: quite compares to my Steffie.
Speaker 1: Now New York or La.
Speaker 2: I know I feel bad saying this, but New York
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 3: I mean you were dropping to the next So that's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 2: I know my family's from New York too.
Speaker 1: I know you were born in White Plains. You know
Speaker 1: my dad was born in Westchester. Okay, yeah, so basically
Speaker 1: we both have like Westchester New York route. Yeah. Now
Speaker 1: rinaldo or messy.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to say messy. I'm a messy guy.
Speaker 3: Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to say I have to say Tom
Speaker 2: Brady just because, like I think you have to say,
Speaker 2: I respect his partying after he wins. I respect that
Speaker 2: he threw the trophy. I expect that they had to
Speaker 2: carry him out.
Speaker 3: Okay, Like if it broke, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: What was gonna go, right, somebody would have got it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you watched that video his daughter, who's
Speaker 3: like seven, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, daddy, no, don't do it like a seven year
Speaker 1: old is like John Brady.
Speaker 2: Was lost in the sauce. But here's my thing. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that he still celebrates it as much as he does.
Speaker 2: It means something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true. Now these are gonna get slightly problematic. Okay,
Speaker 1: Doris Burke or me, uh, why is this taking you
Speaker 1: so long?
Speaker 3: Come on, give me a quick answer.
Speaker 2: No, Doris Burke is literally the nicest, most angelic human
Speaker 2: being of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I'm not.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say you, ah, that's so nice, because
Speaker 2: I figure I'm gonna have to do Tennandy podcasts before
Speaker 2: I die and a bunch of TikTok yes and maybe
Speaker 2: one TikTok Now.
Speaker 1: I think you've been looking.
Speaker 3: For this one. But Richard Jefferson or you.
Speaker 2: Oh me, not even close. You could say Richard Jefferson
Speaker 2: or a fart. I take a part Richard Jefferson or
Speaker 2: a flat tire in the middle of a desert, flat
Speaker 2: tire in the middle of a desert. I work with
Speaker 2: him at a Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are like frenemies.
Speaker 2: You well, I've known since I was fourteen. We've known
Speaker 2: each other a long time. He's like, he's like an
Speaker 2: older brother I never.
Speaker 3: Asked for Ah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: That's my step brother.
Speaker 3: How I feel with my brother, except he was never.
Speaker 1: In the NBA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's different. Yeah, Richard is awesome, but he
Speaker 2: gets on my damn nerves sometimes.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is why we're gonna make a TikTok
Speaker 1: because like Richard Jefferson, like he's big on TikTok, loves TikTok,
Speaker 1: you just got to be better than him. So we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get on there.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the anti Richard. So if Richard
Speaker 2: eats steak, I'll eat a salad.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well not for the TikTok case, because I
Speaker 1: really need to Okay, I could do this.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks.
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