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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan, I'm fourteen, and I know the NBA.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we have the first senior drafted in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and five NBA draft and an avid

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Speaker 1: pickle hater. Lebron said he was one of the best

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Speaker 1: shooters he has ever played with. World Champion with the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers, Channing Frock. Let's set the scene. The cows

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Speaker 1: were found three to one in the NBA Finals and

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Speaker 1: somehow you guys win something a team has never done

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Speaker 1: in NBA history. I don't think anyone has ever directly

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Speaker 1: asked you this, And I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: did Braun say in the huddle that made you guys win?

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Speaker 2: You know what? And to be honest, it was not

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Speaker 2: just Braun talking. I think one guy that doesn't get

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Speaker 2: enough credit, who didn't play a minute, was James Jones.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously he's the GM of the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns. Now he's one of the best, and even

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Speaker 2: Braun will tell you he's one of the best minds

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Speaker 2: that either one of us has ever been around. And

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Speaker 2: I think as a team we were like collectively had

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Speaker 2: watched so much film we knew what we needed, right,

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Speaker 2: so when you get in those crunch moments, especially versus

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Speaker 2: the Warriors, we're so good and we see how good

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Speaker 2: they are obviously in the finals. Again, you got to

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Speaker 2: play perfect. You have to stick to your game plan

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Speaker 2: and you have to believe in what you're doing and

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Speaker 2: not get like down on yourself when they go on

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Speaker 2: these nine oh runs, seven oh runs, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you just have to keep believing. And so I think

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Speaker 2: bron was more technical while the other guys. If some

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Speaker 2: guy goes in the game, they have to know their assignment,

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Speaker 2: they have to know obviously who they're guarding, what our

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Speaker 2: game plan is at that time. Are we in his

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Speaker 2: own are we in a man? Are we switching? Are

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Speaker 2: we then to drop an ice to show and get back?

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Speaker 2: Are we a show and go? Like? There are all

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Speaker 2: these things that go through and you know in that

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Speaker 2: moment it's a team thing. So I help out Kevin

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Speaker 2: and Richard and Tristan and Braun helped Kyrie because they're

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Speaker 2: doing their own thing, and so it was it was

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Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Our communication was was a one.

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Speaker 3: So what advice then would you give the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Two things I would tell the Celtics. Number one, you

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Speaker 2: have to get layups. The technical way Golden State offense

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Speaker 2: is one of the greatest in the history of the game.

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Speaker 2: You cannot set your defense up if you take bad shots.

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Speaker 2: They have five guys, four guys without Looney Kevon Looney,

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Speaker 2: who can bring the ball up and make a play.

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Speaker 1: Kevin can't take the ball up. He does it a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I'm like, yes, Kevin, I love when

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Speaker 2: He can't sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get so

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Speaker 2: scared because back in the day they were like, kive

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Speaker 2: the ball to a guard. But you know, at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, Kevin has been in X many championships.

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Speaker 2: He's a champion. He knows how to play the jo.

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Speaker 3: Last game he's been practically perfect, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just talk about understanding your role and

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Speaker 2: not being wavered by what people have expectations for you,

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Speaker 2: but what your team needs you to win. So if

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Speaker 2: you get layups, it gives your team a chance to

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Speaker 2: get back on defense, and then you can't turn the

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Speaker 2: ball over. And I played on Phoenix Sun's team where

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Speaker 2: we were shooting a lot of threes, and so you

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Speaker 2: have to take good threes, corner threes. Obviously, there's the

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Speaker 2: best shot in basketball, and you have to the ball

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Speaker 2: has to find energy, right, which it always does, and

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Speaker 2: so you can't play one on one and beat them. Klayt.

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Speaker 2: Thompson is too good, Draymond is too good. Steph has

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Speaker 2: been playing great defense, Wiggins is amazing, and so you

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Speaker 2: as often as possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and being someone who has played against Draymond Green

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Speaker 1: in the finals, you know we saw him practically try

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Speaker 1: to pull down Jim Brown's fans, right, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: he tried to pull down his pants, Like did you

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Speaker 1: have times when that happened?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think if you really look at

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Speaker 2: the play, like Draymond plays with his heart on his sleeve,

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Speaker 2: and you know it looks like he's putting down his pasts.

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Speaker 2: But if somebody's standing above you, you have nothing to

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Speaker 2: Finals game, obviously, tempers are going to flare if you

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Speaker 2: He really was like, hey, sorry that my feet are

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. They are great dudes. They are nice guys.

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Speaker 2: Except for Draymond. He's a great human. You know he

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Speaker 2: you need that guy that's gonna make you uncomfortable, who's

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Speaker 2: gonna talk, who's gonna get you off your risk, get

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Speaker 2: the other team off the rhythm, and Stephan clay feet

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Speaker 2: off that. But for me, I thought it was just

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Speaker 2: in way more into that. You already know Draymond has

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Speaker 2: a technical. I would have leaned in there. I would

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Speaker 3: The rest weren't gonna see himp that would be.

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Speaker 2: But see that's because Jalen Brown didn't lean in on it.

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Speaker 2: I would have tried to fight him. I would have

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Speaker 1: I mean he did, but it wasn't. I am sick.

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Speaker 1: Now let's move on. So I'm fourteen years old, I'm

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Speaker 1: in eighth grade. Well, actually I have one more day

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Speaker 3: I'm excited tight okay, high school, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: But I want to know who you were at fourteen,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we know who the world knows who

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Speaker 1: you when you were fourteen. That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: God, oh boy, I was still in the band. I

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Speaker 2: was playing the trumpet.

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Speaker 1: Oh you were a band kid, A big band kid.

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Speaker 2: Well, Vince Carter was a band kid till college, which

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Speaker 2: is crazy. He was the marching band leader in Florida.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I remember that, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I like those random facts.

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Speaker 2: Random, thank you, thank you. I think I was six

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Speaker 2: practiced that much beast. I would play outside, wasn't on

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Speaker 2: And so you were a nerd playing it big. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm still a nerd.

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Speaker 1: I have, like I know, but you're like a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm

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Speaker 2: a nerd. I could be. It's you know, the duality

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Speaker 2: was tough. I was not good. Couldn't dunk, couldn't run backwards.

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Speaker 2: I was just a big old goofball who is super skinny,

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Speaker 1: I can definitely tell that you've done podcasting before because

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Speaker 1: you literally answered every single question on my list without

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Speaker 3: So thank you that that made it way easier for me.

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Speaker 3: So if you never played, when did you start to

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Speaker 2: Then? So my parents made me so in a weird way,

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Speaker 2: it worked out well in Chandler, Arizona Junior High was

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Speaker 3: Then you switched to Saint Mary's.

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Speaker 2: I went to Saint Mary's in tenth grade, which is

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Speaker 2: I took the test to go there. And there's another

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Speaker 2: that time, Chandler, Arizona East Valley, I tell my dad.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, whatever school wins, that's for school.

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Speaker 2: As they won, he celebrated with his team. The coach

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Speaker 2: We have a Saint Mary's AU team and the two

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Speaker 2: So I went from not really practicing to practicing with

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Speaker 2: and I had to catch up pretty quick. I broke

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Speaker 2: Uh ish. I started to get confidence. I broke my wrists, right,

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Speaker 2: don't obsessive isn't the right word. It just became intoxicating,

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Speaker 2: seeing like the work, the result of the work after

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Speaker 2: I have muscles like I get donk with two hands,

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Speaker 2: like I'm dog. These dudes like I was starting to

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Speaker 2: work harder than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: So once you ended up joining that Saint Mary's AAU team,

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Speaker 1: who was the best player that you ever played against

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Speaker 1: on another AAU team.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Tyson Chandler, not even close. What went at NBA.

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Speaker 2: He was seven foot just in the fastest big I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't even explain to you. He took three steps

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Speaker 2: and he was all the way down to court and

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Speaker 2: me to play this. I was like, I could barely

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Speaker 2: couldn't shoot, I couldn't do anything. But we were younger,

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Speaker 2: an absolute monster, a demon.

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Speaker 1: So did you ever get asked to like buke up

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Speaker 1: when you started?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay, when you're asked to book up?

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Speaker 3: What do you eat? Like you just go to McDonald's

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Speaker 3: every day?

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Speaker 2: No, guy, I have so many funny stories. So my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I only okay, cheese a pepperoni, like when

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Speaker 1: Been saying, I feel like this is making me think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Bradley Beal is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: Of course, I mean Jason Tatam has a supporting cast

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Speaker 2: Correct, correct? I think Bradley Beal is a really good player.

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Speaker 2: I think Bradley Beal will be We'll see the best

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, two years ago, yes, two years ago.

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Speaker 1: And you know, on other teams, He's not going to

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Speaker 2: So what's more important? So he's already paid, he's already

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Speaker 2: version of Steph game two, and then tonight we're going

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Speaker 3: I hope we don't see the best version of Derek White.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see.

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Speaker 1: That made me crying.

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Speaker 3: God, that was the best shooting fourth quote I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Oh ridiculous. They were all fire.

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Speaker 3: That's never gonna happen again.

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Speaker 2: Oh never.

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Speaker 1: our next segment. So we've talked about you when you

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Speaker 1: not hopefully, So what is the most memorable play of

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Speaker 2: Of my career, it's when I had back to back

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Speaker 2: Nate McMillan, which I always you know, and I when

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Speaker 2: giving me a chance, right, Obviously you could have gave

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Speaker 1: The season, when Steph came back after he broke his hand,

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Speaker 1: We I'm saying we because I, you know, I'm basically

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Speaker 1: I'd put everything on Steph. And then Damian Lee was

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. I think as a role player, that's

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Speaker 2: So like again, James Jones in practice was like, no

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Speaker 2: I stay on fire.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lebron did say you were one of the

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Speaker 2: We yeah, did he did. I appreciate it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate my guy looking out for me, but uh,

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Speaker 1: You were one of the best.

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Speaker 1: a Warriors fan, I'm looking at him and I really

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Speaker 1: really want him to be good because I love Kevin Looney.

436
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Speaker 1: But we're pretty small and we I mean, when Robert

437
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: Williams the Third is in the paint like we see,

438
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we need a little bit of hype. Yeah,

439
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 1: and I think watching you know, he's recovering now, but

440
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 1: when he did play in his rookie year, I saw

441
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Speaker 1: some moments where I was just like, I think he

442
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 1: just needs to grow into himself. And I feel like

443
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Speaker 1: you could relate to that. Maybe when you were a rookie.

444
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Speaker 2: He is already far and away a lot better than

445
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: I ever was.

446
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Speaker 1: He just well, you were first team All Rookie he wasn't.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well he's also I'll say this, he has an

448
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: put ten thousand hours into the basketball court. No he

449
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 2: has not because he can't. He's always hurt, right, So

450
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 2: if you don't have time to make mistakes because you're

451
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Speaker 2: still trying to learn yourself.

452
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Speaker 1: Also, he did have the COVID year during college, so

453
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Speaker 1: that he can't go to the gym.

454
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Speaker 3: Well, actually I guess he could.

455
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Speaker 2: But with other people, Yeah, you can't play. You're not

456
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 2: under duress or under fire. You have a chance to

457
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: make mistakes. But I think you know, we get sometimes

458
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 2: we get prisoner at the moment, especially as fans. Yeah,

459
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 2: he's twenty I think twenty years old.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

461
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we didn't see Joel Ebide till his third year.

462
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: This is his seventh year, and he's been healthy, and

463
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: he's developed, and he's had serious losses. He's had been ridiculed,

464
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 2: he's been underneath the fire, and now we're seeing the

465
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Speaker 2: best version of himself. Big guys usually developed later. Also,

466
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Speaker 2: I think Golden State understands the value of him in

467
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Speaker 2: wanting him for the longevity. If they get him at

468
00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: twenty one for five years, that's scary, scary.

469
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Speaker 1: I think that's also important because as Stephen, Dray and

470
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Speaker 1: Clay get older, they start to not be able to

471
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Speaker 1: do as much so we need a young guy like

472
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Speaker 1: him to really.

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Speaker 2: Step up, right, totally.

474
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Speaker 1: Well, we also have Jonathan Kamingo, who right, I mean,

475
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: he's insane, insane as athletes, and so is Moses Moody.

476
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have a really good group of young guys.

477
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Speaker 2: I think, really good. The team's gonna be scary, and

478
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Speaker 2: think that's that next generation that understands the length of

479
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: the season, has had good culture, understand getting experienced in

480
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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, Western Conference Finals. They that culture goes

481
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Speaker 2: into the next generation as they rise up.

482
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Speaker 1: For these guys, even though they're not getting that many minutes,

483
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Speaker 1: they know what it's like to be in the NBA Finals,

484
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Speaker 1: which is something that you know, we've seen this with

485
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Speaker 1: so many guys where then they do all the work

486
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Speaker 1: to get there, and then they get there and then

487
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Speaker 1: they don't know what to do because it's a different

488
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Speaker 1: thing than the fifth game of an eighty two game season.

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Speaker 2: It is its own it's its own season. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: that is an honest true that anybody's been the finals

491
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Speaker 2: will tell you have been twice. It's like, once you

492
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Speaker 2: get done with the Eastern and Western Conference finals, when

493
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: you get to the finals, it's its own thing entirely,

494
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: and the play from October all the way to June

495
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: is crazy. I remember we wanted our championship. We want

496
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Speaker 2: it on June twenty second, So like, think about another

497
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: eighteen days from now. That's how long the season is.

498
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Speaker 2: So have you taken care of your body? What are

499
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Speaker 2: you doing? Are you you know that the ice tubs

500
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: that you were supposed to do in December are starting

501
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: to catch up to you? Are you mentally here if

502
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Speaker 2: somebody gets hurt? Are you ready to go? Do you

503
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: watch film? Do you surround yourself with people who are

504
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: not telling you what you should be doing, but telling you,

505
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Speaker 2: like what does your team need and how you could

506
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Speaker 2: do that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a little different, but I want

508
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Speaker 1: to know what was your welcome to the league moment?

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Big Shack. So two thousand and five, obviously Shack

510
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Speaker 2: is in Miami. Before the game we're doing warm ups.

511
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Speaker 3: Were you playing the Garden or.

512
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Speaker 2: The Yeah, I was in the Garden Star I was

513
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Speaker 2: playing for the New York next So I got drafted

514
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Speaker 2: I know eighth. Well, thank you. You know listeners, they

515
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Speaker 2: may not know it's a long time ago. Thousand and five?

516
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Speaker 2: Is he was the eighth.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it played all four years of AIRSONA.

518
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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just yes, I did. I appreciate dropped the knowledge.

519
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: I am drop it. So we're in warm ups and

520
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Speaker 2: I'm like looking like, holy crap, Shack is huge and

521
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: I was playing a little bit of center. So I

522
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: was six ten, but you're the same. Hi, No, no, no, no,

523
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Speaker 2: no different. I was six ten two thirty. He's seven

524
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Speaker 2: foot two seventy to eighty.

525
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Speaker 3: But you're listed as seven feet.

526
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Speaker 2: Now I am Now I grew. I grew two inches

527
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Speaker 2: in the league.

528
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Speaker 3: Oh you grew yeah?

529
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Speaker 2: Wild? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild. Yes. So I did

530
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Speaker 2: not cheat.

531
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Do doctors understand how that happened?

532
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: Now? Maybe you know yoga stretching grosspurt hmm.

533
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's giving yoga a little too much.

534
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Speaker 2: Great, yoga is good for stretching.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have to put in some work to yoga.

536
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, do a little bit from yoga and get your

537
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Speaker 2: spine right.

538
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Speaker 3: I still want to be able to dunk by myself.

539
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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding.

541
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Speaker 2: If you could, that would be crazy. That would be

542
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Speaker 2: the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

543
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Speaker 1: It would maybe I could get like bouncy shoot, like

544
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Speaker 1: I can dunk on the trampoline.

545
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's tight. I'll give you that. I'll give that.

546
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: You're a tiny person.

547
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh I can do like windmills on a six foot basket.

548
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: Dunk ball's the best. You used to play that in

549
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: seventh grade.

550
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Speaker 3: Probably harder on a ten foot basket.

551
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Speaker 2: I am actually very impressed. Well, mails are hard to

552
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: So we're in warm ups and Shack grasps my arm

553
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, little Fry, I need your jersey

554
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: after the game. And I'm like what. He's like, yeah, yeah,

555
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Speaker 2: my son loves you. I don't know why, I don't

556
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Speaker 2: know what. He likes your game at Arizona. Give me

557
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Speaker 2: a jersey after the game. And he just goes to

558
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Speaker 2: warm ups. So I'm like, oh crap, Shack. Shack likes me.

559
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Speaker 2: So I'm giddy.

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Speaker 1: Oh so, since when are you, little Fry. You're not

561
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Speaker 1: that little, really, I.

562
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Speaker 2: Know, but I'm little to him. I'm a twig to

563
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Speaker 2: this man, this behemoth of a man to him.

564
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Speaker 3: I think everyone's little to him though.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're playing a third quarter and we're winning,

566
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter comes and Larry Brown, our coach

567
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: at the time. It's like, Chang and go guard Shack.

568
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, Shack is my guy. You know,

569
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: take it easy on me, right here.

570
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Speaker 3: Your guy off the court.

571
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: Off the court. Yeah, Shaq looks at me, calls his

572
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: play and it's like it's winning time, little fry. And

573
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: I remember he elbowed me so hard and knocked me

574
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Speaker 2: into the stanchion. And next thing you know, I see

575
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: his two big Shackgnosis shoes or whatever he was wearing,

576
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: like I'm behind the basket, like what like what truck?

577
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: Does it mean?

578
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: Did he help you up?

579
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: No? No?

580
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: But did you give him the jersey?

581
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? I had to give him a jersey. I had

582
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Speaker 2: to give him a k for the kids, for the kids.

583
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Speaker 1: Like if that would have happened to me, I would

584
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Speaker 1: have I don't even care if it was for his kids.

585
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: But it was just like I realized at that moment,

586
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Speaker 2: I have no business trying to guard centers. And then

587
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Speaker 2: I had the guard Like, yeah, Ming, I've had a guard,

588
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Bayam, Pogasalt, Tim Duncan, some of the

589
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: biggest guys in the league. I'm just like, what what,

590
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: why do y'all have me guarding this, dude, I'm not

591
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: belt like this. As I started shooting threes, yeah, I said, hey,

592
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Speaker 2: if you get three shots and I get three shots,

593
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make two at of three, I'm gonna be

594
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: up two points for six.

595
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Speaker 3: Do you think that you were ever part of someone's

596
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Speaker 3: welcome to league moment?

597
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Speaker 1: Like?

598
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Speaker 3: Do you ever remember being like, you know what, I

599
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: feel like what I did to that kid? Like I

600
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: think that that may.

601
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: Have been Kevin Love. I hope he sees this.

602
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Oh, your teammate, Yeah, kay Love watched this.

603
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: I barbecued him one time in Minnesota. They had an

604
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: awful scout. I don't know what their game plan was,

605
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: but I saw it and film and was just like

606
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: licking my chops. I didn't dunk on him. When I say, honest, head,

607
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: that's more like more than seven threes in a game.

608
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: I think I hit like nine, like you a little

609
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: Curry action, yeo, yeah.

610
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Curry before Curry. I was more like, yeah, he's like

611
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: original Curry and more like a yellow Curry.

612
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: No, it was more like it was your Dell Curry moment, right.

613
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Dell Curry moment? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, I mean it

614
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: was just bad defense, and then I just took advantage

615
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: of it. And then just I used to like Kevin

616
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: was so good. He is still good.

617
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's moved into a different role now, I guess

618
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: it's different way.

619
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 2: I like this role for him as a leader, as

620
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: a champion. It's great for him and his maturity and

621
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: his personality to bestow. Like you see how good the

622
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: Cavs were without injuries.

623
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Speaker 1: When comes back, I'm excited to see what the Cavs

624
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: have in store.

625
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: You'll be interesting what they do with him because I

626
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: think the way the league is, especially in the Eastern Conference,

627
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: it's hard to play smaller guards. Right. As much as

628
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: I love Lamello, he's gonna take him a few years

629
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: to be Like. The smallest guard in the Eastern Conference

630
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: is Kyle Lowry. But Kyle Lowry's built like a like

631
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: a tree stump, right, But he's takes charges guard posts. Right.

632
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you've seen all the Kyle Lowry memes them

633
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: by that.

634
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: I've seen all of them. I've seen all of them.

635
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: I've also played against him.

636
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: I just say the eighth grade boys like that.

637
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: I like that for sure. Yeah that's limous, but yeah,

638
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: they just got to get more physical because Jannasy is

639
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: the point guard for for Milwaukee, and so is Drew Holliday. Yeah,

640
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: and that's the smallest guy on the court, right, so

641
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. I think Collin's a really

642
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: good player. I like I love Darius Garland, I like

643
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton.

644
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: I wonder if Darius Garland will be as sort of

645
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: explosive with Consexton on the court, but it's hard to

646
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: have two of them. I think maybe it works better

647
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: for Darius when he's the first option.

648
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if you look at the spacing right,

649
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: I think Collins's natural position is to have the ball.

650
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: I'd liken him to a Tony Parker style basketball player,

651
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: where they get their momentum and their feel for the

652
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: game by attacking the rim and trying to score, and

653
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: then once they get double teams, it's easy for them

654
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: to kick out. But Darius plays as more of a

655
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 2: I would say Chris Paulish type, crazy underrated bag and

656
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: then just tries to get his teammates open and now

657
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: as the game slows down, him and Jared Allen remind

658
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: me of a young Tyson Chandler and Chris Ball from

659
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Hornets.

660
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Speaker 3: So Stephen A.

661
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Speaker 1: Smith is known for his hot takes, But have you

662
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: ever seen takes hotter than Kelly ub re Jr. I

663
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: really don't think you've ever seen takes harder than Kelly Junior.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you it's just not possible. Nothing is

665
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: harder than him.

666
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: Right.

667
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I knew you were going there. Everybody

668
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: likes that.

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00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew I was going here. Yeah, you know,

670
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I do like him. He may or may not be

671
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, my lock screen. I just I gotta be

672
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh my.

673
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Lord, have mercy. Wait he plays for Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

674
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: I liked this role.

675
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: But I have to say I love Kelly. But when

676
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: he was on the Warriors, I was like, I'd rather

677
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: you go somewhere else. Yeah, it's great, it just wasn't really.

678
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: No, I think he needs to play more of an

679
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: upstyle game.

680
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: When he was on the Suns before, like Devin Booker

681
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: and Deandret and and Chris Paul, he was good there

682
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: and he is good now. But the Pornets are more

683
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: of a different Yes, so these takes are gonna be

684
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: hotter than Kelly. You're bridginger, So I'm gonna ask you

685
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: a question, and I just want you to give me

686
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: a really hot answer. Okay with like green eyes.

687
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: Okay, green eyes, green ice or.

688
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: Blue either works or like a mix.

689
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: A nice yes, right, my kids have hazel eyes.

690
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, welcome.

691
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So which MBA player is the best dressed?

692
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: My style? It's Kevin Love my style.

693
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not like a Kyle Kuzma Giants sweater?

694
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that's too much. Man, I

695
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: get it, but I think that's a little too much

696
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: for me my style.

697
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Who has the best shoe game.

698
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Their signature shoe or just who has the best shoes?

699
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard. When I asked him that question, he said

700
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Lebron and no I understood. I feel like that was

701
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: more because his own shoes. I think, just like in general,

702
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: who just.

703
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: Like oh PJ Chuck.

704
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: That's why I mean, he has a house shoes. That's

705
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: the right answer. Thank you. I'm glad we agree on

706
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: that. That's the right answer. I don't like when anyone else

707
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: gives any other answer. That's the right thing.

708
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: No, that is the only answer.

709
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: So who is the funniest.

710
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: MP Anthony Edwards by far not even Chris.

711
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Agree his press conferences. I'm like, I don't even know

712
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

713
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: But no, it doesn't. He never answers the question. He

714
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: just tells you what he wants to tell you, and

715
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: he's super honest.

716
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: The other day I saw this TikTok of him on

717
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: some movie, well for his new movie with Adam Sandler

718
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: and Hustle. Yeah, exactly, and they were like, oh, what's

719
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: your all time starting five? And he was like, oh,

720
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: myself and then that and he didn't even say like

721
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan or Lebron And I'm like.

722
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: No, he said Alan iverson KD Lebron himself.

723
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: And Okay, I'm gotta be washer Kobe, he.

724
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Said, no, Shack. Maybe it was a funny list. Awesome list,

725
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: but a funny list.

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00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: It was the funniest.

727
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be quite the team for sure. So

728
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: which NBA player do you think could run for president?

729
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: And when?

730
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Oh? And when is this all time? Or is this

731
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: like right now you can do whatever? So all time

732
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: it's Grant Hill, Okay, And then I think now, uh

733
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: would be a guy like CJ. McCollum. Yeah, big time politician.

734
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: Vibes shout out here, it is ninety one.

735
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: I know, no, I feel you.

736
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very just calm and like I feel like

737
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: he could just go out there.

738
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: He's very intellectual, very well.

739
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: Spoken, and unfortunately he has never been an All Star.

740
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: Not fair, never been, which is you know, sucks being

741
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: in the West sometimes and then.

742
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Well I feel like there's guys that he could have

743
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: gotten picked over some seasons.

744
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: But sometimes I think Lebron.

745
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, like there's so many

746
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Lebron lovers, but then there's so many Lebron haters that

747
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: people wouldn't vote for him for sure.

748
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Right. He is very polarizing. There's no real middle ground,

749
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: and that's why it's a billionaire. When you get to

750
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: be that polarizing, whether people just hate you or support

751
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: you regardless, then that means you've done it right.

752
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Also, the people that hate him give him the most

753
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: of his money, Like the times the amount of times

754
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: I bought Lebron jerseys to like be like you suck

755
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: and write it on it. I didn't actually do that,

756
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: but like to be like, you know, because I do

757
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: this thing where I like hang up my stuff, like

758
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: my Warrior jersey before the game, to like manifest and

759
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, like I bought Lebron jerseys to be like

760
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: artists for like some competition or like I have to say,

761
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: like you know, I've I've worn Lebron's before.

762
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Something that Kobe said for he passed away was like,

763
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: you want one hundred percent of the audience. Fifty percent

764
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: of them are going to watch to see you lose,

765
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: and fifty percent are gonna watch to see you win. Yeah,

766
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: but you get one hundred percent of the audience is

767
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: all you want, right, So take on that hate because

768
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: they're still watching when things are quiet. That means you suck.

769
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

770
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

771
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: I don't think Lebron will ever get to that point.

772
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: No, hopefully not fingers god, unless he like waits till

773
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: not just Brownie plays, but Bryce plays, and then he'll

774
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: be like a literal I.

775
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: Will get him off the court.

776
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: So ill can you driving there? Because I probably won't

777
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: be able to drive by then.

778
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Well, actually that's in two years, so maybe all I can, oh,

779
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: but it depends if I pass my test. I may not.

780
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous for that. I don't know. I

781
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: just feel like I may be a bad driver.

782
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: This is La. Everyone's a bad driver.

783
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: That's true, that's good.

784
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Just don't nothing.

785
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I may get in a bunch of crashes, but that's okay.

786
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: So we can see this picture right here, right correct,

787
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Manut Ball Muggsy Bugs.

788
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: That's the point.

789
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: But one time I was in Muggy Bugs's Instagram post anyway,

790
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: so basically to this or that situation, Muggsy and Manut

791
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: very different, but teammates.

792
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Let's go on.

793
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: I just want you to answer. Last time, we did

794
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot of explaining, which is fine. I love the explaining,

795
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: but now we just got to go fast. Okay, last shot,

796
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm Jered Coche. Lakers are sixers, oh Lakers, Nike or Adidas,

797
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Nike All Day Gatorade or Power the.

798
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Blue Powerade it's the only powerade I like.

799
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: I know, but cucumber Gatorade is disgusting.

800
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: That's the only type of Mountain Blue Gatorade is pretty

801
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: good too.

802
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, you know what I do, sort of like

803
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: blue Power.

804
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: But not red.

805
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: Not red is disgusting.

806
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Great, okay, Instagram or.

807
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: TikTok oh Instagram. I don't even have a.

808
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: TikTok until we're going to make tiktoks together and go ral. Yes,

809
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: that's right. No, you cannot deny it. We're gonna do

810
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: it sweet or salty, Oh salty, interesting mj or broun

811
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: uh broun, Zion or jaw oh jaw all.

812
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Day long until Zion.

813
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: It's a big what if, Steph or magic?

814
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: If you there's only one right answer in this podcast.

815
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: Booth, Oh my god, that's a hard question. I have

816
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: to go magic. I have to go magic. He transcend

817
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: that position.

818
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: Changed the ambassaball forever.

819
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: And you know, Steph is.

820
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: You're not wrong exactly, but I'm gonna that's fine.

821
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Not said great point guard for sure, but no one

822
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: quite compares to my Steffie.

823
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Now New York or La.

824
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: I know I feel bad saying this, but New York

825
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: all day.

826
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean you were dropping to the next So that's like,

827
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: oh my god.

828
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: I know my family's from New York too.

829
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I know you were born in White Plains. You know

830
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: my dad was born in Westchester. Okay, yeah, so basically

831
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: we both have like Westchester New York route. Yeah. Now

832
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: rinaldo or messy.

833
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to say messy. I'm a messy guy.

834
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.

835
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to say I have to say Tom

836
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: Brady just because, like I think you have to say,

837
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: I respect his partying after he wins. I respect that

838
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: he threw the trophy. I expect that they had to

839
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: carry him out.

840
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Like if it broke, I don't understand.

841
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: What was gonna go, right, somebody would have got it.

842
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 3: I mean, if you watched that video his daughter, who's

843
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: like seven, it's.

844
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Like, daddy, no, don't do it like a seven year

845
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: old is like John Brady.

846
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Was lost in the sauce. But here's my thing. I

847
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: appreciate that he still celebrates it as much as he does.

848
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: It means something.

849
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true. Now these are gonna get slightly problematic. Okay,

850
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: Doris Burke or me, uh, why is this taking you

851
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: so long?

852
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: Come on, give me a quick answer.

853
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: No, Doris Burke is literally the nicest, most angelic human

854
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: being of all time.

855
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I'm not.

856
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say you, ah, that's so nice, because

857
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: I figure I'm gonna have to do Tennandy podcasts before

858
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: I die and a bunch of TikTok yes and maybe

859
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: one TikTok Now.

860
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I think you've been looking.

861
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: For this one. But Richard Jefferson or you.

862
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: Oh me, not even close. You could say Richard Jefferson

863
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: or a fart. I take a part Richard Jefferson or

864
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: a flat tire in the middle of a desert, flat

865
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: tire in the middle of a desert. I work with

866
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: him at a Yeah.

867
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are like frenemies.

868
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: You well, I've known since I was fourteen. We've known

869
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: each other a long time. He's like, he's like an

870
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: older brother I never.

871
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: Asked for Ah, yeah, I get it.

872
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: That's my step brother.

873
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: How I feel with my brother, except he was never.

874
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Speaker 1: In the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's different. Yeah, Richard is awesome, but he

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Speaker 2: gets on my damn nerves sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is why we're gonna make a TikTok

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Speaker 1: because like Richard Jefferson, like he's big on TikTok, loves TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you just got to be better than him. So we

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get on there.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the anti Richard. So if Richard

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Speaker 2: eats steak, I'll eat a salad.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well not for the TikTok case, because I

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Speaker 1: really need to Okay, I could do this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Sloan nose and a big thank

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Speaker 1: you to Channing Frop. Make sure to check out my

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Speaker 1: Instagram and.

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Speaker 3: TikTok at Sloan Notes.

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Speaker 1: I talk about the NBA every day.

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Speaker 3: Sloan is with a knee. By the way, make sure

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Speaker 3: to go follow this