WEBVTT - The Mia X Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get up, you know, boys, it's back and rehoaded

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<v Speaker 1>all in your mind. Yeah, and now deep throating. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for the streets, the reel, the railroading, the disanfranchise,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>The North South East coat is the g b B.

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<v Speaker 1>Were keeping your head bobbing, It ain't no stopping and

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be dropped head by then the system is

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<v Speaker 1>so corrupt they throw the rock out their heads and

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<v Speaker 1>then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on

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<v Speaker 1>code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie

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<v Speaker 1>d y'all scarf faces in the building. Collectively we are

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<v Speaker 1>the GHET old boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. In the studio, the first lady of note

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<v Speaker 1>limit Mia X, ma'am, hold up, how me are still

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<v Speaker 1>looking good? I'm talking about looking good good? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? How do you do it? Mia? Your mama

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<v Speaker 1>looked like that she did, she really did. My grandmother did? Okay, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>got them good genes Huh I think so I hope

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah man so man, I mean how how but

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<v Speaker 1>how is your health? Speaking of good genes, how is

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<v Speaker 1>your health? You know? I am taking one day at

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<v Speaker 1>a time and if the Lord says the same, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be cancer free five years March twenty third. So

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<v Speaker 1>but um, you know, after you're ill, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the body really fights hard to feel itself and you

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<v Speaker 1>have other complications. You know, you have phantom pains, um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had. I had to get surgery, a complete

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<v Speaker 1>hysterect me. Sometimes my stomach feels like everything is still there. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have I have like uh it's like pocket

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<v Speaker 1>mask there benige, but they hurt my legs sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>make me feel like I'm walking with leg weights. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still like battle fatigue. So I deal with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that sometimes your doctor tells you

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<v Speaker 1>it's not there, it's in your mind, but your body

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<v Speaker 1>tells you something else. And so um, I'm not complaining,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say for anyone that has ever battle

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<v Speaker 1>cancer or had any type of serious illness, you understand

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying about the fansom pain and how a

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<v Speaker 1>body uh takes time to make you feel whole again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's steadily working, trying to restore itself and deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you've lost. My kidney transplant exactly is

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<v Speaker 1>that those effects are similar because I wake up feeling

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<v Speaker 1>pain right where the kidney is, like oh ship, uh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly. And and and when your body fighting off

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<v Speaker 1>I bought off this kidney. So my kidney went into rejection,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, early and early and uh after the transplant,

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<v Speaker 1>like a week later when and um, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a natural thing that your body gonna fight off any

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<v Speaker 1>uh foreign objects are foreign whatever in your body. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it did. It was like that you must

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<v Speaker 1>have been thrown at the wrong gang side my body

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<v Speaker 1>like this, you know what, I'm two niggas back there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you move exactly. They didn't knocked it out

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to go back in the hospital again.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really talked much about it, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a I had a young rejection in the early

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<v Speaker 1>stage after the transplant. Mea, how do you keep it together?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you do a lot of things. You still,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did your cook book back into the team, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And how's that going? It's going really well? Um was

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<v Speaker 1>the best seller two years straight at Essence Fest because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I launched it. Sell most of my stuff online. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still doing really well. And now I have

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<v Speaker 1>a season in and let me see it's all good

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm working on Yeah, it's a low sodium, a

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<v Speaker 1>purpose ses and then even doper it on my cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yes, and look at me. Yeah you know. Sylvia

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<v Speaker 1>inspired me. Sylvia's of Harlem inspired me. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being a kid in the grocery store and seeing all

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<v Speaker 1>of the labels and then I saw this black woman

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<v Speaker 1>and she had hot sauce and greens and things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I really want to be her. Food

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<v Speaker 1>has been a passion for me. I've been in the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen with my grandmother since seventy five. So yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>did my label like that? This is dope? This is dope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of food success and failure comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to packaging. What that label looks like and this

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<v Speaker 1>looks like money? Thank you, beautiful beautiful. So I notice

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<v Speaker 1>is Brad's um sample. But I'll take this and you've

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<v Speaker 1>read another one. Um, because Brad had his a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. He didn't tell me about the season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was an expert in the culinary arts department, Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an expert in the thug depart Yeah, you can cook,

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<v Speaker 1>we like for real, like really really the food and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff online, I'd be like, man, that looks good. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to eat some of my meals cooking. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>come to New Orleans. I gotta come to Did you

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<v Speaker 1>cook Houston? No, I didn't get a chance this time

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<v Speaker 1>because we were pressed for time with the concert. So

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<v Speaker 1>but usually when I'm in Houston, I cook right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the concert concert was so fun, so fun. Got to

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<v Speaker 1>meet y'all big in the market at least one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of them most definitely. I feel in love every

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm in Houston, like every time, and that's been

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<v Speaker 1>since before No Limit. He was and showed me love

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<v Speaker 1>when I put my first record out thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't look thirty years old. Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you just said I looked like I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that. I said you look like Grandma

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<v Speaker 1>on that package. But I am a nigga grandmore. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the So it's right in line with secret Willy. So

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<v Speaker 1>me and me get on the phone, bro and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked and cracked the funk up all day long. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the funniest person I know. For real, she

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<v Speaker 1>is super funny. How do you keep it in? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen this, this funny side, because it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out at times, and it's because I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be people just laughing. Sometimes I went the way that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be funny, but it just comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother was like that. You know, she was the

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration behind the cookbook. You see all of those quotes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way she spoke. And I just think I

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<v Speaker 1>have that from her. Yeah, yeah, real from the Seventh War. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, from the Seventh War. How was it growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Seventh War? Did you grow up with

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<v Speaker 1>your grandmother? Yes? I did grow up with my grandmother. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be born in Dallas. Okay, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was from Dallas. What he did when my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was six months pregnant he got another girl pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here, so, um, I have a sister, my Irish twin.

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<v Speaker 1>She she's six months younger than me. But my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>came to Dallas and snatched my mama up, made a

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<v Speaker 1>come back to New Orleans. She was in college in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna finish school in New Orleans. You're coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was born in New Orleans, brought home from

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital to my grandmother and grandfather of this home

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<v Speaker 1>because they brought my mom back home, and I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with my grandmother. I grew up with my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just a strong woman, and she wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that my mom still finished school and did

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<v Speaker 1>the things that she aspired to do as well as

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<v Speaker 1>men her broken heart, you know. And so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was with my grandmother, and the Seventh Ward was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventh Ward was a place of community. We all looked

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<v Speaker 1>out for each other. We shared everything, you know, food.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people was pulled and things happened, lose their lights

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<v Speaker 1>were sharing that orange and statue cold. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like sometimes when when the person lights get cut off,

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<v Speaker 1>your neighbor everybody had these thick orange extension cards. You

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<v Speaker 1>could put it through your window and well or orange orange.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the color orange and I love to eat oranges.

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<v Speaker 1>That's perfect, Okay, go ahead, But you know they would

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<v Speaker 1>take the extension cord and you stick it from your

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<v Speaker 1>window to your neighbor window and they can plug it

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<v Speaker 1>in and use like some of your lights. They did

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. In the seventh Ward they share. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know that sense of community and the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>Ward we definitely had a strong sense of community. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we really the village was intact what happened. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say like, um, yeah, like around eighty three, I

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<v Speaker 1>began to see the shift, and not just my community

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<v Speaker 1>but just all around nine wall sixth wall for wall

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<v Speaker 1>fifth wards thoughts seeing the change. Um, and it was crack. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my friends parents got on crack, and

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<v Speaker 1>crack killed a lot of the sense of responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>our adults. So yeah, because you know, Craig became the

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<v Speaker 1>central thing, like I'm not gonna wash my babies, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna feed my babies, I'm not gonna pay my

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<v Speaker 1>bills because I want to rock and yeah, all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Yes, that happened, and I saw it around

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<v Speaker 1>uh eighty three, and then it got aggressively worse. And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, young people including myself, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 1>were Facebook positions like to be in positions like if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't beat them, join them, and so there you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we was thirteen seeing it happened. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>we was fifteen sixteen, a lot of became the hustlers,

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<v Speaker 1>the dealers, and it just kept going and going and going.

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<v Speaker 1>But many kids were faced with two parents in the

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<v Speaker 1>house that were on crack and they didn't have anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they jumped off the porch and jumped into

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And from there the feelings that we have

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<v Speaker 1>for each other began to change. We we stopped, we

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<v Speaker 1>stopped caring. You know, once upon a time, nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>sell nobody, mama, nothing that would poison their spirits, their

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<v Speaker 1>bodies and minds. But then it got to a point where, um,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was just trying to get by, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we realized someone else, Yeah, what we want to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to us. And that's what started happening. That

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<v Speaker 1>the man didn't affect any anybody in your immediate family, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because um, so like one of my cousins came told

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<v Speaker 1>my mom my dad was always hard working. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of my cousins told my mom, um, this is what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with your husband. Because certain things started to

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<v Speaker 1>slip with us, you know. And then my daddy said

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<v Speaker 1>that he had crunched up the rock in his weed yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason to say geeks. But um, he had lost

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<v Speaker 1>his job. And at that point I went to my cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>I had four hundred dollars and I said, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I needed you to teach me howt the hustle because

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta help my mama. Mm hmm. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>my neighbors, she was like seventeen years older than me.

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<v Speaker 1>She used to take me in the bar room when

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<v Speaker 1>I was young, but she never did anything wrong. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to like to drink beer and I was

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<v Speaker 1>a barroom baby. She went told my mama because she

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<v Speaker 1>had a habit. She told Mom, she said, listen, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get on Mia. Mia needs to do her music.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mia sold me some drugs. So when I hit

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<v Speaker 1>the dough, my mama like flashed out because that was

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<v Speaker 1>never her. You know. My mom was like, what's this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you selling somebody something, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not for you. That's not who we are. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>poison our people. You know. My mom was was really

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<v Speaker 1>into us as a people, the community, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>so mad with me, and I was so hurt that

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<v Speaker 1>I had disappointed her because of the way we were raised.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my dad was so messed up that my

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<v Speaker 1>mama told him this is what's going on with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him change. My dad was a type of dude.

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<v Speaker 1>If something hit him m hard enough, he just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. One time, you're smoking cigarettes and he set

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<v Speaker 1>the mattress on fire, he quit. So when he saw

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<v Speaker 1>that I was gonna jump into this game after all

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<v Speaker 1>of the value that they had poured in me, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, nah, I missed this whole thing up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he got back on track. But for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends, you know, we just kind of kept

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<v Speaker 1>on in this game, in this game, in this trap

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<v Speaker 1>that was placed in our community. When you say your

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<v Speaker 1>dad got back on track, he got off track when

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<v Speaker 1>he got into the drug game. Well, he got off

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<v Speaker 1>track when he started smoking geeks because he yeah, he

0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing what he was supposed to. As far as

0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the family, you know it down, He shut it down

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<v Speaker 1>immediately because he didn't want me to be in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew what that led to, is your No. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad died five months after my mom. I really did.

0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I had some really really good people. They were honest

0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:18.520
<v Speaker 1>about everything they did. You know, my mom, my dad,

0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.960
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, my grandfather. They never cut any corners with me,

0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 1>so we didn't live in a fantasy world. Whatever whatever happened,

0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever went down, they brought it to us. They explained

0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it to us. The lines of communication was always open,

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and that was for good and bad stuff. They speak

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<v Speaker 1>more about your father, you know, we talked about so

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<v Speaker 1>no so um, my biological father died when I was

0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:54.040
<v Speaker 1>six years old, and and yes I have memory of

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>him as a provider because he was in California. Actually,

0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he became a concert promoter, uh in the late sixties,

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and he he promoted shows Gladys Night like everybody, and

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.359
<v Speaker 1>then he jumped into the rock side, and so he

0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>began promoting concerts like for Chicago Fleetwood mag He lived

0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:20.159
<v Speaker 1>in California. Yeah, he really was. But he ran with

0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the rock stars and party like a rock star. And

0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.159
<v Speaker 1>his mom actually, uh, she lied and told me that

0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.439
<v Speaker 1>he died from a brain aneurysm. But it wasn't until

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>right before my mom died. She connected me and my sister,

0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.680
<v Speaker 1>my sister Mick, and um, Mick told me that our

0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:45.120
<v Speaker 1>daddy died of a heroin overdose. M All my life,

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I would think when I was a little girl and

0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>catch headaches, like I don't want to have an aneurysm

0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking about my dad. So when I sat down with

0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>my sister, I'm like, so do you get headaches? And

0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.760
<v Speaker 1>she was like, not really, And I was like, because

0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I do, and I hope I don't get an annual

0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is I'm like dad? And she said, well, Daddy didn't

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have an aneurysm. Daddy died of a hair on overdose.

0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>So then I go back to my mama and I say, Mama,

0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Grandma Ta told me daddy had an aneurysm. You let

0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.720
<v Speaker 1>her tell me that. But Mickey say he died from

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.200
<v Speaker 1>her hair on overdose. Then my mom broke the whole

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.879
<v Speaker 1>story down to me because I had no clue that

0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.919
<v Speaker 1>me and Mickey was even the same age. My Grandmo

0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:31.560
<v Speaker 1>T told me when I was uh six, that Mickey

0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.439
<v Speaker 1>was three, but Mickey was six right with me. So, um,

0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom met who I called my daddy because this

0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.840
<v Speaker 1>man when she met him, he didn't have any kids,

0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and then they had my sister, dr Ashley. But from

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 1>day one, he really really loved me as his own

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and treated me like I was a part

0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of what him and my mother was building. He was

0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a good dude. He was a real, real, real good dude,

0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and he dedicated his life to us. So you and

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Mickey have the same biological dad dad, Me and doctor

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Ashley have the same mom. Okay, but you the whole

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.120
<v Speaker 1>time you thought that you and Micky had the same

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:26.280
<v Speaker 1>mom and No. I always knew that I had a

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>half sister. I just didn't know how many years older

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.639
<v Speaker 1>than her I was. And I didn't know much about

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.480
<v Speaker 1>her because they were just saying, oh, you know you

0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 1>have a sister because I was later in life. So

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:48.480
<v Speaker 1>in like about two weeks before my mom died, someone

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ranged my doorbell. My mom said, go open the door

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for your sister. So I was like, she got a key,

0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and someone was like, go open the door. But when

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I looked on I came. I saw these two people

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.520
<v Speaker 1>standing at the door, and I was like, that's not Ashley.

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>When I opened the door, I saw my face. I

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, all my life and my family they would

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 1>say me, and you don't look nothing like your mama.

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Who you look like? You know? So I saw my

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>face and so she was like, Hi, I'm Mickey. I

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>knew I had a sister named Mickey. So instantly that

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>connection was like on point. But I think before my

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.879
<v Speaker 1>mom died, she wanted me to know my sister and

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.160
<v Speaker 1>know my blood in Dallas, because I really didn't know them.

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So my mom actually put us together. And um, I

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>mean me and Mickey we've been We've been tight ever since,

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm grateful my mom. Did Dad, did your mom

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.719
<v Speaker 1>ever have any hangups about Mickey or with Mickey? I mean,

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she had to hang up with your dad,

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but uh, because he stepped out right to have her right. Okay,

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>So did she ever resent Mickey? Because never matter is

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact. She was always telling me when I was

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a little girl, or you have a sister, because being

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the only child, Um, when my cousins would go home,

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I would be lonely and I would always wish I

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>had a brother or sister to be in the house

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and play with me. And she would said, well, you

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have a sister, but she lives in Dallas. She never

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>felt anyway from what I could see, towards Mickey or

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 1>her mom, because that was a choice that my dad made,

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:36.679
<v Speaker 1>you know. So uh, there was never any any animal

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 1>city that I could see because she's the one that

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>put us together. Me and Mick wouldn't even be the

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.959
<v Speaker 1>way we are now had my mom not found her

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>reached out and said, hey, when you come to New Orleans,

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to see me. Yeah. She was a special,

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>special special uh you know. And I'm not saying that

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>because she's my mama, because she's going just as a

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>human being. She was a one and m I found

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>out a lot of things, like why we ended up

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>coming back to my grandmother's house. That was very devastating

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to my mom, what happened with my dad stepping out

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like that because he was really like her first boyfriend.

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And Um, I found out that her blood pressure was

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:29.160
<v Speaker 1>so high she had a nervous breakdown when she gave

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>birth to me. She had to stay in the hospital

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 1>for two weeks, and I came home with my grandparents. Um,

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>they heard a lot of that from me. Until I

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>was grown. I never knew how it had affected her,

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it affected her to the point where

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember she used to always say, I don't want

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>any more children. But then she met my daddy and

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they got married and they had my sister, you know,

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it was rough for her. I can imagine,

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, how was it for you and died, And

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>did it have any effect on your choice of men

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and how you viewed men in terms of fidelity? You

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 1>know what affects me now because as a child, I

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know much about it. You know, it was

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it was one of those secrets they kept from me

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 1>until I grew up. But when I found out everything

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was able to process things, it made a

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of fence. Now as far as um men stepping out,

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I chose older men. Oh um, quite naturally

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>they would step out, but I wouldn't know. Um. And

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>then I thought you were gonna say that quite naturally

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>they probably got it behind them already, because most a

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of times women say they choose older men because

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>they got all the horn behind him. Well, that wasn't

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the case for me because I was a young girl

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and guys were older, but they wasn't older in a

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>sense where that maturity kicks in. They were still in

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that playful stage, but they were older than me. Um.

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>My grandmother used to say, well, you know, if you

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>get them while creep and expect to lose them to

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a creeper. So it made me not want um the

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>next girl's man. While she had her man. But at

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the same time, um, the experience that I found out

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>my mom went through in processing that and then being

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a rap artist and traveling with guys I got a

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>chance to see my grandma used to say, a man

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to bring his dick many places, but he can keep

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>his heart and on at one. So I started to process, like, Okay,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>some guys are just frisky and they are playing you know. Yeah,

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they're frisky, and they'd be all over the place, and

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to find your comfort in your relationship because

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I've had guys step out, and sometimes that was deal

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>breakers and sometimes it wasn't you know, Like for instance,

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was sick, I knew that physically I wasn't

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>in a position to uh be with the man in

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a way that he you know, intimately, And so I

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>had to process that if you're with someone, they might

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>step out during this battle, but it's gonna come down

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to how much they are there for me, because yeah,

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because it dick ship really ain't. That's not a big

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>old thing with me more than that honesty and that communication. So, UM,

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably one of the girls that's a little different. Um.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>When we talk about the situation, if it's stepping out,

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and if it's some things I can understand and he

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>can understand, it's not necessarily a deal breakup. You know,

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother always tell me you gotta be clear on

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>your hell yeah and your nose. So who was your

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>grandmother name? Her name was viola big name, mama, dear

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>birtha understand or something. Yeah. So I don't usually step

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>in and tell people like how to run their relationship

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>if your man is doing this or if your woman

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>is doing that, but I do say you gotta be

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>clear on your hell yeah and your fun nose. You

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>know you spoke about being the only woman I on

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>tour with a bunch of guys. How was that just

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>being around that whole No Limit family? You being the

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>first lady of No Limit? You know, that was a

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>great experience. Um, it was a blessing that I was

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>around a lot of guys that love their mama's, love

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>their sisters, loved the women and their families. They were

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>always protective and always respectful. And I gained brothers. Some

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of them I look at like sons, some of them

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>might look at like nephews. But I gained a real

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>centense of family, and still to this day, like when

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I first linked up with Pete was ninety four, So

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>now we're in still to this day, those guys that

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>are a part of that organization still treat me like families.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Still have the utmost respect and coming together for the tour,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of us hadn't seen each other

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in years, but we immediately click clacked immediately. You know,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>some of us are just gonna be that. Do you

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>still communicate with Pete? You know when I see him

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>on tour, But we really don't communicate the way we

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>did in the nineties because I was a part of

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the label and I was there and um there to

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>give him a lot of input and ideas to match

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>his hustle so that we could make No Limit be

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>what it was. But peas like California guys, been in

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>California a long time. I'm a New Orleans girl, and

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>when I left the label, we didn't communicate a lot

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>when I see him. You know how some people just

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 1>think gonna be your family regardless, So when I see him,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's always family. But we don't communicate the way we

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>used to when you were on No Limit and you

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>had to go in that studio. You guys were, and

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>y'all had to be the most prolific label in the

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>history of labels. I mean the way y'all was putting

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>those records out back to back to back to back.

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>It seems like every two weeks there was a new

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>artist dropping on the memory and everybody with stars. Everybody

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>was a stone, everybody, everybody was a star. So when

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you go in the studio, y'all were helping each other

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>out with your projects, everybody jumping on everybody records and

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Did you did you ever feel any

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>type of pressure or did you ever feel like you

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>had anything to prove? You're gonna you're getting on these

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>records with all these guys. It wasn't so much that

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had something to prove, but I

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted to make a statement for the ladies. I

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make the women proud. Every time I picked

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>up my pen, I wanted them to know that whatever

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the subject matter was, however the beat was, I was

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna ride it and I was gonna run it. So

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was for me. I wanted to give

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the ladies, especially heavy set women, because you know, I

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>came in the game with two stomachs. You know, I'll

0:29:55.680 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>drink that too. But I'm just saying I came in

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the game and I wasn't really like the prototype for

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>what what the industry was pushing out. So it was

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>important for me to let people know big girls look good,

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>smell good, we ride good, we live good, our hearts

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>are pure, and stop just thinking because we don't fit

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a certain mold that we need to be looked over.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And then, as far as talent, as in MC, I

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>jumped in this game in eighty four, I wanted people

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to know that I was an MC. That's more than anything,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's still the way I feel to this day.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I want you to not just look, oh,

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>mea X was from the South, because they do that

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to Southern artists all the time, you know, oh yeah,

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>she's good for the South. I know. I wanted them

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to know that I was good. And if you put

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>me up against anybody on any coast that you think

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>was good, I'm gonna show you how good I am.

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That was my whole thing, my whole motivation, at no

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>limit um jumping on each other's projects. I mean, we

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>did that to make sure that we could push the

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>records out. A lot of people had deadlines. They wanted

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to make their deadlines. Me for Mama Drama, I had

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to write sixteen or the twenty records in ten days

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to come out when I was supposed

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to come out, but we were shooting movies and you know,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I kind of got behind track, and people was like, well,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>if you want to drive, you're gonna have to hurry

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>up and go finish your record. I jumped on that

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>red eye and when finished my record, you know. Um,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>so we had our own studio in Louisiana, but then

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>um we were in California going to a few studios. Yes,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I lived in California. Um. I moved to California because

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>P and then was still in the Bay and that's

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty much where the label was. So I left New

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Orleans and I went to California. California, you know I do.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>It was the best weather on your own, the biggest,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>prettiest flowers. It's like the flowers, the lemons, the oranges.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Everything just looked big. The grass looked green, was really nice,

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and you could be in the hood where some real

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>road gangster ship is going on, but the flowers, everything

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>is so pretty. But I don't live in New Orleans,

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans living me, so I have to always I'm

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>back home no matter where I live. I've enjoyed many

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>places in California. Has one some chicken bur I mean

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>some chicken b I mean some seafood. Yeah, when you

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>were coming up rapping, did you hone your skills via

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>talent shows and competitions? Did you kind of like get

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>into it? Now? I was at every talent show um,

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and we were part of a group me and Manny

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Fresh called New York Incorporated. Uh So we got the

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to give dances and be the DJ crew. So

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when remember when we were young,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>we used to really have teen dances and places to

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>go to as teenagers to enjoy the music. We will

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>always be one of the DJ crews. When the super

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>domes started opening up and allowing a dance space for teenagers,

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we were one of the DJ crews. And then we

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>had a man named Mr. Eli. He was like the

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>concert promoter for raps, so he did all of the

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>Rapp Attack concerts. We were blessed to be young kids

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>opening up for all of the acts as they would drop.

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So Dougie Fresh. It's like rick uh. He was opening

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>up for them. The first rapp attack had L. L. Coolmore,

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>d jay Z, jeff In, the Fresh, Prince, jek O

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and Hide. We got a chance to taste the big

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>stage when we were young. Yes, and he rode around

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>on the truck. Yes, many Fresh Daddy had he could

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>ride around. He was like one of the first mobile DJs.

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But then he was a staple in a lot of

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the New Orleans ballroms. So, um, I didn't get it easy.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I had to get it out the crawfish mud. And

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole another kind of mud. That's a whole

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>another kind of mud. And um, it was important when

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I was coming up. You know, it was battling, it

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was writing. It was all about writing. And and I'm

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>glad to be a part of that school. Yeah, you

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>were battling. Did you ever get booed? Never? Did you

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>ever get boolges doing that's a regular show, like a

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>talent show or something like that. You never? I never

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>been well, no, let me tell you no, let me

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you so bowled? Was St. Louis when we first

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>started this damn tour again. Man, Yes, and that's one

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite places. Like as far as not like

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was, but yeah, we get to see Louis St. Louis. St.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Louis Is sold out. My people in St. Louis then

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>bought every piece of camouflage in St. Louis. First of all,

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the particulars on how the runner shows

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>go as far as the technical side, but they had

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the people waiting two hours after they had been waiting

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>two hours us. They played the wrong record. The wrong

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>record so we always come out on the limits soldiers.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>They played, uh, hot boys and not girls? Who you

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 1>got DJ? Right? Well, I mean yeah, he got a DJ,

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but something happened where hot boys and hot girls came on.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>He was enraged and I was trying to say, well,

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just go with it, let's just go with it.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>But there was a pause where we didn't go with it,

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and the DJ scrambled to put the right record on,

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>but the people started booing. Then when we got out there,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the music cut off at one point, so they started

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>booing again. So that's that's how I experienced the boing.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>The show went on and they got into it the

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>music because they loved the music. But initially they was

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>frustrated Yeah, that's a different guy. That's frustrating boot that

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that it was boring, Like yall ship in,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all asses here, and we want to get right into

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it and we're not getting nothing into it now. But

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we all st Louis, We really do because um, everybody

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>else have gotten a chance to enjoy the full experience

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't. So yeah, yeah they bowed. I was like,

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll be damn yeah, but that that's we got booed.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>We went to New York started coke, you know what

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like, no, we went to New York when

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>we first started as ghetto boys, and we were talking

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, we were talking in street ship and back

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you know in in in in the late eighties, New

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>York rappers was backpackers. They were talking about how good

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>they get wrapped, and we were talking about hose, We're

0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about dope, We're talking about beat nigga's asses for me, Yeah,

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody talking about Then we got boomed. But we also

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>was talking about loyalty and taking care of your family

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and police brutality and corrupt you know,

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>corrupt politicis real ship because I'm gonna tell you. People

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>would come to my house and Ghetto Boys would be

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>blasting and they would say, like, your mama gonna say

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and I say, na, she cooking, that's her playing that.

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>That's no sellout, that's hard, that's you know, that's my mama. Yeah,

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>very very strong activist. But mama would be banging the

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>records and my friends would think it's me and think

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it's so loud, like you're gonna get in trouble. You

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>got the whole house rocking. Oh, my mama is in

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen with the boom box, and that is her

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>playing Ghetto Boys. So my mom understood the message and

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the music, even though it was distorted sometimes by cussing

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and violence. I mean, those things were happening in our community.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.479
<v Speaker 1>And y'all know it's by eighty three. The subject matter

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>was there for us when we looked out the window,

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>when we stepped outside, when we went into the schools,

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and we knew some of our friends was, you know,

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>needing clean like us, and then we saw him coming

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to school dirty. Yeah, and you know what, and we

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>we just never wanted to brag about the life. Our

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>thing was always getting out and doing better, trying to

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>better situation and giving information and instructions like we do

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. It's always been about that, and I

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the fact that you, your mom and other people

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>who were able to get the messages saw saw the message,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>heard the message and didn't get like uh, didn't get

0:39:56.239 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>blinded and getting didn't get sidetracked by the prof ay

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It was some serious messages and and that

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was my mama's whole thing with me. Um. She was

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 1>like this, don't be saying stupid stuff. Just to be

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>saying stupid stuff. I don't mind your cussin because my

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>grandmother custom you know, come from a custom household. But

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>she wanted me to always make it make sense, especially

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to my people. And she didn't care the way I

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>said it. She didn't care the way I said it,

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>but it had to make sense for our people. And

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>she wanted me to always be able to express and

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>explain myself. You know, when when Rap was put on

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>trial for the things that we were saying. But the

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>thing about it is when we stepped outside, that's what

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was going on before the shift in in music and

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the way it is now, and when we started talking

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>about things before that shift, that stuff was still there.

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>People was on the car on the selling drugs. We

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>learned about strawberries before n w A saying something about

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a strawberry. We knew people was sucking dicks for rocks

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and selling all this stuff. We knew that before we

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>went into the studio. We saw that that's what was

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>happening in our community before rap. Most of us is

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>older than the first hip hop record that dropped, So

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just a rap artist and a rap music.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>That stuff was happening, and and and things wasn't so

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>sunny and so bright to just talk about. It wasn't

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>all party music. After a while you had to start saying, well,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>damn everybody on rocks, and now people killing each other

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>behind rocks, and now turfs are being established in a

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>name a crack those territories. You know what I'm saying.

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that stuff happened before records was even dropped.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>And then you have the kids. You know, if your

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>parents wasn't giving you both signs of it, so when

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they picked they pin up, it just sounds all negative, negative, negative,

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but they was living in that. Now we got a

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of kids. I don't like the ones that you know,

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>jump clean up out of beautiful house with a beautiful

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 1>situation and nobody struggling, and then make this struggle music

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>for the sense of just profiting. We was knee deep

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>in that ship. We was knee deep in it. And um,

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I want people to understand. As far as

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the shift and like, uh that the mid and late

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>eighties when the whole tide turned, and now you know,

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the music we have is just just a lot, a lot,

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of craziness. Whereas we did still have that

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>balance because y'all got booed in New York because they

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 1>was backpacking and y'all was running what y'all was running,

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and then California started running what they was running, you know,

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and we still had the diversity. Though. If you wanted

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to listen to a backpacker, you could. You wanted to

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to school, a person that was talking street music

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>or what they said gangster rap, you could. You want

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to listen to a person that was doing all party music,

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you could. Now you have to go searching on the

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>internet to find these artists because a lot of times

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>we're just getting that one thing pushed out, and by

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that one thing being pushed out, it gives a rap

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>as a whole a bad name. What do you think

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>about Cardi b making the stallion Nikki? These type of artists,

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the women who's uh pushing running ship, pushing the the

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>independent running ship and also getting over on men narrative.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of that, you know, like it's

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>not just it's not just about like no being independent

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but a lot of it is like, you know,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>fuck you pay me? Like I mean, I'm saying that

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it is. Look, let me tell you something because that's

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the game. But I'm asking my first record, my first record.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Payback is the reason why I will never come for

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a lady in her lyrics. But prior to uh, fuck

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you pay me, it was like fuck a bitch, don't

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>trust no bitch has six or seven bitches. So that's

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what we were listening to. So the other side of

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.479
<v Speaker 1>it is, well, all right, then if it's don't trust

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>no bitches, have six or seven bitches, then when you

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.240
<v Speaker 1>funk with me, pay me, that's pretty much what happened.

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>But like, uh, but how do you how do you

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you do you get to say fuck you

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:47.479
<v Speaker 1>pay me and still be considered a respectable woman? Yeah,

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, a respectable woman is in is really

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>in the eyes of who who's ever about to call

0:44:53.840 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>your respectable or not respectable? My grandmother was h puss

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>it out when bread don't show us grits groceries. Um,

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so look and your mom. I'm just saying

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>there with with the with the rapping um and and

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>in the tone that music takes, what the funk you

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>pay me? It really comes from years and years are

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>listening to how some guys come across on the music.

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Because let me tell you something, pay back the guys

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans. You know when bounce music was created,

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>it was you know, bitch stopped talking, that ship stuck

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and they get thick for outfit. So when I came out,

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oops, oo's got some hair and your teeth.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Bit you graduated from tips and now you're nicking clicks.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 1>But that straight came from what I was hearing from

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the guys. It could be you know what, it could

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>be comed by y'all. And and look look at look

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>at this. Uh, Megan is in a relationship. Kardi and

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Nikki are married women, so you know they love their kings.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 1>You know they respect their relationships. But at the same time,

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody has to be the voice when we have all

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>these other voices chirping in the background about bitches and

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>funk holes and don't trust them bitches and you know,

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>don't love them, duck them. When you have that kind

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of stuff going on, they have to be another voice

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 1>that have to be that balance. You know what. That's

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a good point. But here's the thing, like what I'm

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm what I'm experiencing here, what I'm witnessing here

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>is a cycle. Because men will we'll say, well, the

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>reason why we feel this way and the reason why

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we're saying letahobia hole is because we've been played by women.

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>We've been you know, used by women. So so everybody,

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>if you played again, that's why you little know that

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you've been played. So so himself has been played. And

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, man, you can't you can't even learn

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>in order to win and appreciate winning. You gotta learn

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>how to lose first to appreciate winning. But anyway, man,

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>moving on this. No, no, no, I'm not trying to

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>throw y'all. Willie. I've just been on you a long

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>end time, bro, and I have never seen this side

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of you. Man, you have really changed changed. Well I'm

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to change, Brad. You know it's called growing. No,

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all good though, I'm just saying that that's crazy,

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying, you know, drugs. I think go

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>back to what happens to our community, Like our families

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>really were broken up and separated, and where you had

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>strong women and men who are now addicts. They did

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 1>things that was out of their character all the while

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>they still was raising children. So that took a shift

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>in our mentality where we used to really really love

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and depend on each other, especially in our black men

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and black women. It's like so much distrust. You don't

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>trust each other anymore. Where is it? Let me say this,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna ask you, like where is that coming from?

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna ask so Cardi, uh Bgan, Nikki Dope,

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 1>super Dope actually like all of them. And I have

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a personal love for Megan because she's age twn. You

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:58.919
<v Speaker 1>know that that's our girl. So and yeah, a beautiful person.

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But I just wanna the question is is a valid question?

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I do believe because I mean they are they are

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the women who are who are carrying the torch right

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>now they're out in the front, and that's a that's

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a that's a legitimate question. Uh, I do believe because

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>we're we're we are faced with these we are faced

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 1>with this, this this this thing where that battle to

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>your point, we we got this the men over here,

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the women over here, and and everybody's plutting fingers at

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>each other. And at the same time, we're still trying

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to raise babies, We're still figuring out a way to

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I still um attracted to you. I still want to

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>have sex, which you want to look, we want to

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have family, want to have baby, but I hate you.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Ask at the same time, like, how do we how

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>do we get out of that mold that we're in

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>right because right now it is a lot of bickering

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth, the men blaming the women, the

0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>women are blaming the men. And I'm sitting back like, yeah,

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>these motherfucker's have created the perfect storm. What's happening right here,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>right now is the perfect storm. We can we can

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.919
<v Speaker 1>win a lot of battles. One battle we cannot win

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>is we cannot win the battle of the sexiest. We

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>cannot we cannot win a fight against each other. Black

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>men and black women can. That is a losing battle.

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's gonna win that fight. So you can get into

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.399
<v Speaker 1>your feelings all you want, but if you really care

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>about your people, and you really care about your survival,

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 1>then it is incombatible on you to figure that ship

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>out and get out of your feelings and and and

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>do what's best for yourself and for your family and

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>for your people, because the trajectory that we're on right now,

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna make it. We can live. We can

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>win a lot of fights. We can we some fighting, motherfucker.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>We can survive. Everything has ever been throwing our weight,

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna survive. Other ship they're gonna be throwing

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>our way. Then there's somewhere plotting right now to throw

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>us off again and sunk us up right, and we're

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna survive that bullshit too. We figure it out, but

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we can't survive. You know. You know what I always

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 1>think about though, I always think about the US versus US.

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You know that that really happens centuries before we got here.

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I always think about if I had my master's baby,

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm pushed this white baby out, but my husband got

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to be right here. Even though my hands was tied

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and so was his. We still don't like each other

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>because of what just happened. He couldn't help me because

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I was violated, and I couldn't help him because that's

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>his master. So I think centuries ago we started looking

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>at each other differently. And I think when we started

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to get on track, like after slavery and and cities

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 1>were established by us and our businesses, we were on point,

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the city started getting bombed and then lynching

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>our men, lynching our women. I'm a woman, and y'all

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 1>budge in my house and take my son and my

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>husband can't do nothing. I'm mad with him. I'm mad

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:44.479
<v Speaker 1>with him. You know, rape my daughter and you can't

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>do nothing. I'm mad with you. I won't do nothing. Well,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say hands tied, because you know, if if

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the lynch mob is there with all of the guns

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and the torches and we don't have anything but the

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>things that were yielding in our home, his hands was tied.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>So physically, emotionally and mentally, that division that was a

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, and we are still fighting to escape

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that initial division, right and like now we don't even

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>think about that kind of stuff. We just think about

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>with like rap. You know, fuck you, nigga, pay me,

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 1>fuck these holes, be with other holes. We think it's that,

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.919
<v Speaker 1>but it's stuff so deep in us, and young people

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. You know, I know it's not hip hop.

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not stupid. No, I know it's not.

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>It's deeper than hip hop. But what I'm saying is

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>just a psychologically, I don't think it's clicking with men

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and women that, um, we have this trauma. We have

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>this trauma that's been passed on to us from generations

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that we don't trust each other. We don't know if

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you're really gonna look out for me. We don't really

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.479
<v Speaker 1>trust each other word. I mean, you say you're gonna

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>bring the pampers in, but I don't think you're gonna

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>bring We start feeling like that immediately, and we might

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>not know all day. He trying to make sure he

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 1>get the pampers for the month. We we don't even know.

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:22.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, those walls and that anger, that suspicion.

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it has a lot to do

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>with that more than the stuff we think is the right. Now.

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you first meet a woman might like

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>this woman she might be everything esthetically one she they

0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>talked to talk you like, but in the back of

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>your mind you still saying, waiting for the other shooter drop.

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 1>See was this motherfucker really gonna do? Like we come

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>in with each other. I don't think other racests come

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in with that suspicion to see that was a plot

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and part of a plan that was done to us

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>alone long time ago. The trip part about it mean

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is that that plan, that plot is still in motion

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're constantly doing certain things the sneaky ass canine

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and things to further divide us. And it's like we

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>keep walking right into the trap because we got we

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>got the spirituality in the common sense torture out of

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>us a long time ago. Um, like I said, we're

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>dealing with trauma. But see here's the thing, Like for me,

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe everybody's just really really just super into their

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>feelings and nobody's really thinking critically because for me, there

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:51.959
<v Speaker 1>is nothing you can do. There is no woman made

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of woman who can turn me against women, not Black

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 1>women specific they ain't a woman. It don't matter, Like

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not never gonna get that that into my feelings.

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like like some of these do it. It's

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>a dude right now listening to me, right now, he's

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>about to cry, you know, and you know he got

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>home in him. You know, like he really got home

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>in him. Like he very emotionally type. Emotional type dude.

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 1>You know he to do that say I love my mom,

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I love my kids, I love my daughter, but I

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>hate women. This ship don't even make sense to me,

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Like how can you as a man hate that which

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>you come from. How can you hate women and have

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a daughter or mother say you love them, but you

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>hate black women? How can you, as a black woman

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 1>say I hate black men, but you love your black son.

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You ain't even qualified to raise him because you hate

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what that which he is to become. You're not qualified

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to raising. You can't give something that you ain't got.

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>The all these people that's online, that's that that's crying

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and and complaining all the damn time about black people,

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about black people. Self hate, bro that

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:14.359
<v Speaker 1>self hate, self hate. Get out your feelings. And if

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you cannot get out your feelings, get out of the way,

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>take your ass somewhere on another planet and go set

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>up shot and all your motherfucker's get out the way

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>because we got some we got some black people out here.

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>There's still a little of that blackness, you know. Like

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I am like this ship right here. You see this

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's scan This is cool ship, right, this ship right here, Man,

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>this ship is cold letting right. What the fun I'm

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be? Man, come on, has a lot to do

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>with programs. Look at that goddamn brounche that should look good.

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But but the programming and they can't get me with that,

0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. They can't get me with that ship. Like,

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:05.959
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like if you hate yourself, gag because

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>there ain't nothing you can give to the world. Ain's

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do. You can't do ship for nobody

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>unless you do something for yourself first. So you may

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you being smart and you slick, and you above

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, you're more intelligent than others, because you have

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>come to the conclusion that you don't like nobody that

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>looks like you. You don't like them because they you know.

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>You may thank you smart, but you really wanted the

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>dumbest motherfucker's in the world, because self hate is the

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>worst hate. But see I think our people are the

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 1>only ones that programming and conditioning is. Uh, it's like

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>centered on because we have a lot of friends were

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>in hip hop and now everybody loves hip hop and everybody,

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>all the folks are not conditioned to feel like they

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>women as bitch as a whole and they men or

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody's embold arms, you know, dead beats. Those words are

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>not even used in in in you know, with other people.

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a direct target, and unfortunately we do fall for

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it because it's programmed constantly, constantly to make you feel

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like if your mama not married, then she must have

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>been a whole, you know, or if your daddy didn't

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>pay child support, he just dropped something off, he's a

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>dead beat. You know, we've been targeted, and then once

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we were targeted, our people are constantly programmed. So you'll

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>have a young lady who don't have kids yet get

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<v Speaker 1>all her education, move with the system. She may turn

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<v Speaker 1>her nose down at a brother that's not educated and

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>automatically assumed that he's a bum. Because these this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we're being conditioned. They don't do that to nobody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what my mom raised me to believe that because

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<v Speaker 1>so much of this was being done to us that

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<v Speaker 1>let me know how great we were. You gotta keep

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<v Speaker 1>tugging these people hate I miss your mom. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking in these people. You gotta keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>uh infest them with drugs, diseases in the wrong programming.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like, we were the only people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that was rewired in every sense of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>how we think, how we eat, how we love, how

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<v Speaker 1>we commune. We're the only people in the world that

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<v Speaker 1>that was done too. And I want to go on

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<v Speaker 1>record right now until some of you, oh dirty motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>out there that's listening to this show right now that

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<v Speaker 1>I like to say, ship like with cent of the

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<v Speaker 1>population is responsible for eight of the murders they responsible

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<v Speaker 1>locked up in all this stupid ship. Me tell y'all something.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain something to your dumb ass. No group

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the history of civilization has ever been

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<v Speaker 1>able to reach their full potential when they've been targeted

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<v Speaker 1>by their own government for failure. The government makes the laws,

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<v Speaker 1>the government enforces the laws. I tripled that any motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>race out there on this planet to try that ship

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<v Speaker 1>in any country where you're being targeted by your own government.

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<v Speaker 1>Your ass wouldn't come nowhere close to what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to accomplish with all of these attacks on us,

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<v Speaker 1>year after year, decade after decade, century after century. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it. You're fucking jump off fucking building. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it. We're on the constant attack. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just it was the law. It's not killing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can have him, you can buy him, you can sell him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can rape his grandma, you can use his babies

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<v Speaker 1>for alligator bait. The United States federal government said that

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. Go ahead, We're not mad at you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, like you rise up from the ashes,

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<v Speaker 1>and what do they do. They try to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get out. They recognize our greatness because what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll try to go and find our best, get

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<v Speaker 1>our greatest, and then try to use them against us.

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<v Speaker 1>Get them to come over here and work for them. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't don't go over there, don't don't work them,

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<v Speaker 1>don't help them either. They'll try to build somebody just

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're trying to build one of bears like us.

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<v Speaker 1>Happens all the time. Man, I love this, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Singer let's get the great white hope to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>great whatever, Like it's cold blooded. Man, I see this

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<v Speaker 1>ship all the time. I just think when when when

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<v Speaker 1>men and women know, you know that that the family

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely targeted. Um and and we were programmed to

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<v Speaker 1>look at us in a negative light. We were programmed

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<v Speaker 1>to look at us in a negative light. So even

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying, there's all these little things that make

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<v Speaker 1>those glitches. Like I said, it starts that division. Trying

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<v Speaker 1>bro think about what she's saying. Like I think about

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<v Speaker 1>even when you're like the average person get up and

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<v Speaker 1>try to go out and be productive in the world, right,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make something out of themselves. And in most

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<v Speaker 1>cases the average person that's the average person is there's

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<v Speaker 1>no interference being read the average black person get up,

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<v Speaker 1>go out and try to make some especially black men.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you have police fucking with you? I right,

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<v Speaker 1>they rideing on. You're trying to funk what you go

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<v Speaker 1>ohuat and do, try to get your job or whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't hire you. So and this is the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like for us, we need to get used to being entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck trying to go and get it. Education to work

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<v Speaker 1>for them, get that ship, learned that ship so you

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<v Speaker 1>can work for yourself, and and and so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can and and and so that you can give your

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<v Speaker 1>your children can come work for you instead of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and work for them. You did what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, we gotta get used to that because a

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<v Speaker 1>they got the ship stacked up against us, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it's gonna be. It's not gonna change. And

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<v Speaker 1>exactly stole all this ship and then created well by

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<v Speaker 1>selling what they stole. Uh, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you a question. So the Willie Lynch theory,

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<v Speaker 1>the letter you read that Willie how it was really

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<v Speaker 1>it was Willie Lynch really a person or is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just bring the ship out of the thing there what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying, that's it. That was actual name. That was

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<v Speaker 1>his name, and that and that was his letter how

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<v Speaker 1>to make a slave and that ship at that instruction

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<v Speaker 1>manual that he installed back in the seventeen hundreds still

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<v Speaker 1>applies to right now. You know what I mean? You

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<v Speaker 1>you you turned the man against the woman, the child

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<v Speaker 1>against the parents, you know, the bright guy against the

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<v Speaker 1>dark skin. You know, like it's still in effect, right

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<v Speaker 1>now look at the wickedness man, Look what what what

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<v Speaker 1>type of country? What type of government? One? Look what

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<v Speaker 1>what type of government would would would would purposely make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the men of a specific group could not

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<v Speaker 1>be imployed. And then go to his woman and say,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as he will give you some money, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have him in the house at all. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta kick him out of that you can't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can, you can work. So what was that about? See,

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<v Speaker 1>and people think you can just turn that ship off.

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<v Speaker 1>This is conditioning, This is generations, and this ship has

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<v Speaker 1>passed down just like any other type of conditioning can

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<v Speaker 1>be passed down. It can be good, bad, or and different,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's passed down. So it just trist me out.

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<v Speaker 1>How you have people that try to ignore these type

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<v Speaker 1>of facts, act like this ship don't matter your government.

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<v Speaker 1>Your government goes in and tell a woman, look, kick

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the house and we'll give you some

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<v Speaker 1>money to take care of you and the kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can't work. And he we've been not catch him

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<v Speaker 1>over here. So and guess what he gotta be. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only does he have to be out of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>we bet not catch him when we roll up he'd

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<v Speaker 1>better not be here. So now what's in the guy's head?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't miss that up for her and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't give me a job. I can't mess that

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<v Speaker 1>up for him. And I'm scared to go over there

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<v Speaker 1>because they might show up. Yeah, the movie Claudine, you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that how to Toasta? Howd the TV the welfare

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<v Speaker 1>people came? I remember. I remember that movie vaguely, but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the old school movie. I think seventies right,

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<v Speaker 1>But but it was the welfare They thought the welfare

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<v Speaker 1>lady was coming, and it was a woman and a

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<v Speaker 1>man children who loved each other. Welfare people were coming

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<v Speaker 1>um and and so the things that they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to saving buy like a TV and toaster, ironing board,

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<v Speaker 1>things that you wasn't supposed to have living under the assistance,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was supposed to have this money. So when

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<v Speaker 1>the welfare lady came, they were running scrambling, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hide what I guess that the system would consider as

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<v Speaker 1>as a luxury. But it was an ironing board TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That stuck out with with me in that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little kid, but it always just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to hide their TV. If the high, they toasted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. But I think now we put so

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<v Speaker 1>much focus on what you know what, it's the music,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. Else it's because they don't want to uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to pull their pants up. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We we we put a lot of blame on those

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<v Speaker 1>things without stepping back and saying, hey, y'all, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>living with some trauma for centuries, and we birth babies

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<v Speaker 1>and we birthed them into the trauma. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>birthed them into the trauma. And um, I think with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of artists with our music, we don't hate

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<v Speaker 1>each other at all. And it's almost like what we

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<v Speaker 1>call Jones and ribbon on these wreck is that we've

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<v Speaker 1>done in hip hop so long. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>problems I have is a lot of other artists with

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<v Speaker 1>different topics are not being pushed in the front. When

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<v Speaker 1>we first started doing it, we saw a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>artists being pushed to the front, a lot of talented artists,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of diversity. We don't see the diversity as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, you have to go searching, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for this artist for lyrics and you know this artist

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to feel a party vibe, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go searching for that when when there was public Enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>when there was ghetto boys, you know, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>Young MC. Also, we don't see hip hop like that anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a variety of whatever you liked as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, your music or your lyrical content.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the stuff that's really being pushed out is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff that seems like it's just fun

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<v Speaker 1>niggas and bitches and kill niggas and kill bitches. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to have a lot of variety. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was um promoted. The variety isn't promoted. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not there, it's just not promoted. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>average person that's just going here to click their all

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<v Speaker 1>they're seeing is that one track thing. When they still

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of dope artists that's doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of music. But it seems like it's not part of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever agenda to keep us, uh like stifled or to

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<v Speaker 1>stunt the growth of the people. We're seeing a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of one thing. But these artists, I know they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these women love the men, these men love

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<v Speaker 1>the women. But we're being overly saturated with one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one thing. We get back to the diversity.

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<v Speaker 1>I've think, um, you know, artists like us that people

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. When we find an artists that's talking something real,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to share these artists. We need to share them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on our platforms. Hey, y'all, this is who

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to. I like two girls, Um, well

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of girls at home. He has some

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<v Speaker 1>dope girls at home, but three d n T and

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<v Speaker 1>Bricky for President. I don't know Bricky for President. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I share her and then my other friends share her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is doing really, really well because she has

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<v Speaker 1>a solid base. But we have to start sharing the

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<v Speaker 1>artists that we like, you know, just so that it

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<v Speaker 1>can circulate more. Because the people that's really controlling like

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<v Speaker 1>everything we see as a majority all pushing out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff that's making rap music. It look

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just this one thing. It's just this sex,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this violence, it's just this foolishness. Um. When

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the case. And then we have to also

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<v Speaker 1>with the brothers and sisters that's making the music that

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<v Speaker 1>we made about sex and about violence, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>step back and really pay attention to everything that they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying because some of them. They come from these environments,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that don't like I said, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really respect that. Um, I don't really respect you

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<v Speaker 1>making all these records about killing people and selling dope

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<v Speaker 1>and using dope, and you never did and never will

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<v Speaker 1>do none of that, you know. I don't. Yeah, talk,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I don't have a problem with with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have I wouldn't have a problem with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>from the suburbs who has a great imagination for so

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<v Speaker 1>called gangster rapp, a reality rap or anything. My problem

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<v Speaker 1>is acting like it's real, for real, outside of the record,

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<v Speaker 1>and not providing instructions, information and instructions, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about having that chop in the trunk, but you

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell these youngsters what's gonna happen if you

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<v Speaker 1>get caught with that motherfucking child. Yeah see, And that

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<v Speaker 1>is the difference what I'm talking about and educating us,

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<v Speaker 1>using it, using it to educate and uplift. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>bragging and then and then you're bragging and it becomes popular,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the kids that are living it they take

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<v Speaker 1>to that because they live in it because somebody's bragging.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had a problem with the real music, the

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<v Speaker 1>gangster music, because I'm a part of that. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just when you are pushing this out to some of

1:13:57.640 --> 1:14:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the young people, when that's all they living and all

1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they know, they're gonna embody it, and then you go

1:14:03.240 --> 1:14:06.519
<v Speaker 1>back hat and ducked off somewhere, tucked off, don't want

1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:09.360
<v Speaker 1>no parts of it, not telling them if you get

1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:12.920
<v Speaker 1>caught with this chopper, you worn't more to them in prison.

1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's keep it all the way real. You worn't more

1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to them in prison. So if you're Tolden this chopper

1:14:19.120 --> 1:14:21.720
<v Speaker 1>around just to say you got a chopper, just know

1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you wort more to them in prison. Tolden the chap

1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:27.240
<v Speaker 1>because you're tolding the chopper is totally different than Tolten

1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the chopper because I'm really into something, you know. And

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's where the problem is for me, because

1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:37.800
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of young people that's really living that,

1:14:38.280 --> 1:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're living it not because they chose to. We

1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people in our neighborhood that was

1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:48.439
<v Speaker 1>boring into things. They didn't choose it. They came home

1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to addicts, you know, they came home the untreated mental illness.

1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of kids that's growing up like that,

1:14:56.840 --> 1:15:00.519
<v Speaker 1>and so when they hear somebody that's saying something that

1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:03.360
<v Speaker 1>they could relate to, they kind of cling to it.

1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:07.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what I did when I heard a lot of artists.

1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:09.160
<v Speaker 1>For us, it was mainly soul and R and B

1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:12.200
<v Speaker 1>artists because we didn't have many rap artists to look

1:15:12.280 --> 1:15:15.519
<v Speaker 1>up to, because we're part of a generation that was

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning stages, you know, like second generation hip hop, uh,

1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:27.200
<v Speaker 1>coming up right under cool, Hurt and now. So we

1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:29.719
<v Speaker 1>we was listening to R and B records. I remember

1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I used to listen to country music because it reminded

1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:36.400
<v Speaker 1>me of hip hop because I row the words was

1:15:36.920 --> 1:15:41.320
<v Speaker 1>even down to the violence in it. Yes, indeed like

1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, but even even down to the violence in it.

1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And we were able to pull what we could relate

1:15:48.360 --> 1:15:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to based on what we heard. What about holding these

1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:57.439
<v Speaker 1>damn record labels and and and Apple Music and you

1:15:57.520 --> 1:16:00.479
<v Speaker 1>know these streaming platforms responsible because I'm tell you this,

1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:03.960
<v Speaker 1>if the artists can't make a bunk off of it,

1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:07.160
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna do it. If they can't sell the records,

1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and also the facebooks, the Instagrams, the YouTube that play

1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the music, if they can't get that music on the

1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:18.080
<v Speaker 1>stream because it costs money to make music. If they

1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:21.479
<v Speaker 1>can't get it on those streaming platforms, they're not going

1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to wrap it, They're not gonna talk about it. So

1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the artists are the low hanging fruit. A lot of

1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:29.280
<v Speaker 1>times we like to focus on the artists, and these artists,

1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the artists, man, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers,

1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I have yet to hear anybody bring to heal these

1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>streaming platforms, these networks, you know, these even some of

1:16:44.720 --> 1:16:48.760
<v Speaker 1>these big movie studios, and I have yet to hear

1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:52.080
<v Speaker 1>them talk about these these people who really got the juice,

1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they could shut it down like this. So my thing

1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:58.439
<v Speaker 1>is like, if if you're serious, you know, where where

1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is your concern you know, for holding these other people

1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:04.600
<v Speaker 1>accountable to people who got the money to bread, the

1:17:04.760 --> 1:17:08.640
<v Speaker 1>ones who are really in power. See, I think they

1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:12.880
<v Speaker 1>have the power to introduce it to us. But then

1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:19.200
<v Speaker 1>ultimately the consumer is who clicked the downloads. The consumer

1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>is the one You're right, and I say that all

1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the time. At the end of the day, to consumer

1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:26.560
<v Speaker 1>is the one who clicked. But at the end of

1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the day, certain ship you can't consume if you say

1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:35.599
<v Speaker 1>something by certain kinds of people. Yeah, not so if

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<v Speaker 1>you so, If we so, we we really really really

1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:41.679
<v Speaker 1>want to go there, and we really want to hold

1:17:41.720 --> 1:17:45.040
<v Speaker 1>people accountable, and you really want to like focus on

1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the calls and you know who's responsible, who can put

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<v Speaker 1>an end of this type of ship, then the energy

1:17:52.720 --> 1:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>should be more focused on the people who got the

1:17:56.120 --> 1:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>power to put it out. That's why when folks have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with certain things that an individual might say

1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:08.799
<v Speaker 1>on a network or a guy that's a movie star, whatever,

1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they go after the brand, they go after the sponsorship,

1:18:14.040 --> 1:18:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the advertisers, They shut them down. I don't see that

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<v Speaker 1>movement for shutting them down when the N word is used.

1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:25.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't see that movement shut them down when when

1:18:25.520 --> 1:18:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you're smoking on two key or smoking on this person

1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:32.360
<v Speaker 1>or that person. Whereas that same energy like like at

1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:36.479
<v Speaker 1>some point, you know, we we gotta be responsible for

1:18:36.640 --> 1:18:42.560
<v Speaker 1>holding the right people accountable instead of just picking the

1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:45.120
<v Speaker 1>low hanging fruit. The wrappers are the low hanging fruit.

1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:49.920
<v Speaker 1>They're just trying to make a buck, just like anybody else,

1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:52.479
<v Speaker 1>just trying to make a buck. Not saying that it's right,

1:18:53.120 --> 1:18:55.800
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying, if you give a kid out the

1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:59.160
<v Speaker 1>hood a shot, and all you gotta do is talk

1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>about his experience, talk about smoking somebody. That's a wrap

1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna happen. But it won't happen if this is

1:19:08.240 --> 1:19:11.120
<v Speaker 1>such a such company over here, said Apples, said, no,

1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:13.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't play that. You can't get spins over here.

1:19:13.320 --> 1:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>You can't get sales over here because their motherfucker's don't

1:19:19.720 --> 1:19:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like us. But but but different, that's where it comes down.

1:19:24.439 --> 1:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>But but check this out. I think it ain't even

1:19:29.000 --> 1:19:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about him not like and that's because most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>like themselves. I think it has a lot to do

1:19:33.080 --> 1:19:35.360
<v Speaker 1>with the money. You know, at the end of the day,

1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel that you don't think his money and talking

1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:44.439
<v Speaker 1>about saying bad things about is reel or Jews. It

1:19:44.600 --> 1:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>probably homo sexual. You don't think it's some money, that

1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:50.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody had money, if somebody had to, if somebody could

1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>get away with seeing what they really feel. You don't

1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's some money and that it is some money

1:19:58.040 --> 1:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>in that. But like you have to understand that a

1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:05.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that ask controlling this, they may say, hey, no,

1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm Jewish, You're not gonna talk about me,

1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>um gay, You're not gonna talk about it. And I'm

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the boss over here, so see, you pay the calls

1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the boss. See, I got the right to

1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:17.439
<v Speaker 1>say what I'm gonna let y'all push out, and when

1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let you'all push out, because I'm the boss.

1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>What we have to do. It's our responsibility, especially to

1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the young people, since we've been so damaged, we have

1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:30.519
<v Speaker 1>to break it down. And look, look, y'all, you might

1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:32.880
<v Speaker 1>have really did kill such and such, and now you

1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:34.680
<v Speaker 1>want to make a record. All your friends might have

1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:37.679
<v Speaker 1>did it. And everybody that's from y'all hood might support

1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this record and not a beat this catchy. So all

1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:43.599
<v Speaker 1>these people are supporting the record, but we have to understand, hey, y'all,

1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:46.840
<v Speaker 1>we're doing more damage because ultimately they want to put

1:20:46.920 --> 1:20:49.880
<v Speaker 1>us in jail. That's where the new the president is,

1:20:49.920 --> 1:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the new slave ship. That's the slave ship, and and

1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and and ultimately, we want to get as many of

1:20:57.320 --> 1:20:59.640
<v Speaker 1>y'all as we can working on a sense of the

1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.559
<v Speaker 1>dial is for us to keep building it, and slavery

1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:05.280
<v Speaker 1>is over. But I'm in a position to tell you

1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:08.320
<v Speaker 1>because I got the money, you can't talk about me.

1:21:08.640 --> 1:21:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You can't talk about me because I'm Jewish. Can't talk

1:21:11.160 --> 1:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>about me because I'm gay, You can't talk about me

1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. Because I'm the boss. The bosses get

1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the they get the option to make the decision. If

1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the boss ain't a nigger, if the boss don't have parents,

1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's addicts. If the boss is not from the hood,

1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:30.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't even relate to that. All they relate to

1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>is the dollars that is generating. So we gotta the dollar.

1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And then the boss got the holler. The thing is

1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:42.599
<v Speaker 1>this here, When the people say I ain't streaming, When

1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the people say I ain't downloading, that's when the boss

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna tuck his tail because the motivation from the boss

1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:54.400
<v Speaker 1>is the green. So when the boss see, wait, nobody's

1:21:54.600 --> 1:22:00.200
<v Speaker 1>streaming this, Wait, nobody's downloading. Wait, nobody's literally coming up

1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>with their credit cards and their dollars actually purchasing things,

1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.599
<v Speaker 1>that's when they start to get worried. Don't nothing worried

1:22:07.680 --> 1:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>them people, but being in the red that's the only

1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they took the mom and pop stores out of the communities,

1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and that really crippled independent labels. In my opinion, you know,

1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:26.519
<v Speaker 1>it's it's most definitely did if if if you got

1:22:27.720 --> 1:22:32.280
<v Speaker 1>uh an artist that's normally doing you know, gold planet

1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>albums man, when like we're just now kind of getting

1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:41.639
<v Speaker 1>into uh streaming and downloading. But think about this streaming.

1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:43.559
<v Speaker 1>They're paying us less than an eighth of a cent

1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:47.479
<v Speaker 1>to stream to hear our music. Right. But think about

1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he said, oh, many ain't making no money like that.

1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>They're making a ton of money like that. You know

1:22:51.400 --> 1:22:58.400
<v Speaker 1>why because if you got twenty million people that's subscribing

1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to whatever Spotify, Apple Title or whatever per year and

1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>they're making twenty bucks a month, that's more money than

1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:17.160
<v Speaker 1>they selling a million records on this artist. So they

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>really fucking us. And and and think about like you said,

1:23:20.920 --> 1:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the mom and pop stores, because we still have one

1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>left in New Orleans that opened in seventy times. I

1:23:25.880 --> 1:23:30.479
<v Speaker 1>think we have one here. We have one store. We

1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have one that that opened in seventy three. But you

1:23:32.880 --> 1:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>can remember when you would bring you c d s

1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and you would do consignment. We were seeing that, we

1:23:40.439 --> 1:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>were seeing the five dollars. And now you say of

1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:49.559
<v Speaker 1>a cent. We used to have so much control when

1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we had independent labels, moving things the old school way,

1:23:54.280 --> 1:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>but that had to be shut down too, and every

1:23:57.200 --> 1:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>time we get our foot in the door, there are

1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:05.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna be some obstacles because the plans started centuries ago,

1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and we have to understand that we always have to

1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>go back to the initial plan. But you know, I

1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:18.719
<v Speaker 1>don't have like we people say, well, shut the music down. Listen,

1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:21.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things are going on. They're gonna

1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, they're gonna make the music about it.

1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>The individuals have to say what we're gonna buy in

1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>what we're not gonna buy. It's some wrap that's full

1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of cussing and full of violence. And I hear it,

1:24:34.320 --> 1:24:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and I understand where they're coming with from, and I

1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>fool with it. It's some wrap that sounds stupid to me.

1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I ain't folding with it. I'm not I'm not gonna

1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>fold with it. Circles all the way back around to

1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the consumer. Yeah, the consumer. So when y'all say an

1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>artist is whack, what you're really saying is your whack

1:24:56.800 --> 1:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're buying it. I mean, you're on it. It

1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>comes down to the consumer. But how does that how

1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>do how does that artist even get on the platform? Though? Well,

1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>because okay, let's say they are um, they are with

1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>a powerful label or have some powerful back in. Those

1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>promotional dollars are gonna push the artists where they're gonna

1:25:22.439 --> 1:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>be seen. But it's still comes down to when you

1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>hear it, do you want to fool with it? Consumers?

1:25:31.880 --> 1:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to fool with it? Do you want

1:25:34.760 --> 1:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to eat this brand of chicken or that brand of chicken?

1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>The consumer always speak on it. This type of cold

1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>drink or like people say, sold on sold what cold drink?

1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>This type of this type The consumer always make that decision. Well,

1:25:50.720 --> 1:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm I like, you know, I want that. I don't

1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>want that. I want that I don't want We we

1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:59.479
<v Speaker 1>make that decision. We make that decision all the way

1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>down to our shoes. I want this kind of shoes. No,

1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:05.479
<v Speaker 1>I want that kind of shoes. But you know what

1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I like getting into the music industry back in the game,

1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't have talent, let the building. Yeah, Nikki

1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>really spoke on that. I saw a clipper and that,

1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that I'm not gonna lie. That was real and

1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>from the right d from the label. It was a

1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>dope as artist. So the thing is it still comes

1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>back to who we're liking, who we were, because it's

1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>our dollars. I tell a lot of people every day. Uh,

1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody depends on the consumer, from the government to the

1:26:45.120 --> 1:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>man in the mirror, everybody. Can you know, we depend

1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>on the consumer, and and consumers go through different phases.

1:26:54.320 --> 1:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>We might be on the conscious phase, might be on

1:26:57.320 --> 1:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the party phase, might be on the gangster phase. And

1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:05.719
<v Speaker 1>we put our support a lot of times in the phase,

1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the moment, the trend, the fad. We do that. But

1:27:13.160 --> 1:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that's on us because if you don't want to hear

1:27:17.000 --> 1:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>such as such, don't listen to it. If if your

1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>whole family don't want head, that's a whole family that

1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:27.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't decided. But if you do, that's a whole family

1:27:27.720 --> 1:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that did. We have this choice when it comes to

1:27:32.680 --> 1:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>what we're listening to, what we're eating. We have this choice.

1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times I don't even know who's out

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<v Speaker 1>and who's really popping because my choice is old school.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my house, the music is the sixties and

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, in the eighties. But that's my choice. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I get in the car with my kids and

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing something out, well, who's that. I might like it,

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<v Speaker 1>So then gonna go and I'm gonna google that artists

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<v Speaker 1>and see what's happening with them. And now I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>new fan. But when it's something that I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that, got that off? Can you put

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<v Speaker 1>on some better? Right? Because I want to hear Betty right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know we have that control, but we like to

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<v Speaker 1>play the blame game, which is, let's pick on these

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<v Speaker 1>rappers because they're the ones that got all of this

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<v Speaker 1>music out. When really and truly, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it, you start putting your babies in the

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<v Speaker 1>call and you start playing what you want them to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of little babies know Stephen Wonder, they

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody because that's who their parents is pumping. Now

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<v Speaker 1>when they become teenagers, they're gonna pick the music they like,

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<v Speaker 1>just like us. Look what we grew up on. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time rappers Delight hit the Treacherous three It,

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<v Speaker 1>we was hooked. We wanted to hear something else, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we were still going back to the roots that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't came up on our soul, our guys wild blues.

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<v Speaker 1>But you you put them babies in the car and

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<v Speaker 1>you introduced them babies to what you love, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up liking what they like anyway, but they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always come back. And that's why we use so much

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<v Speaker 1>great music. We sampled so much great music in our

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<v Speaker 1>careers because of what we grew up listening to. People

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that anymore. They just let whatever playing, just playing.

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<v Speaker 1>So the babies, I mean, if i'm too, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be smoking on whatever too. If I'm in the room

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm we're riding in the car and babies here

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<v Speaker 1>beats and cadence, and they pick up and they start mumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>But that same stuff could be applied to them with

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<v Speaker 1>different types of music. You know, we our parents didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really totally understand hip hop when we fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but once more of it came out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like my my mom she loved Grand Master, Fact Flash

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<v Speaker 1>and the Furious Fact, she loved them. Different music came out,

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<v Speaker 1>people would be shocked. My mama was a hard n

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<v Speaker 1>w A fan, or hard Ghetto Boys fan, a hard

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<v Speaker 1>Public Enemy fan. But at the same time she listened

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<v Speaker 1>to Tremaine Hawkins and Hawkinson singers. She listened to Haddie Labell,

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<v Speaker 1>the group LaBelle. It was a lot of diversity, and

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<v Speaker 1>so for me. I was always able to approach music

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<v Speaker 1>based on my love for it, and I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>ridicual ridicule a lot of it. Except but like I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you come from here and you are not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the music. It's not even creative. It's just everybody

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<v Speaker 1>rapping by the chopper. So let me get up out

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<v Speaker 1>of my mam a three four hundred thousand dollar house

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<v Speaker 1>and rapp about a chopper. Two when the first kid

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<v Speaker 1>that's rapping about a chopper might really had to carry one,

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's a problem too. Like okay, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't got to the point now where we really just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't launched all our walk on ourselves and our different

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<v Speaker 1>hoods and in our communities. Somebody gotta tell them it's

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<v Speaker 1>cool to wrap about that. But do you know that

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<v Speaker 1>in front of your mama loan the sidewalk and where

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<v Speaker 1>your mama mailboxes, she on own that. And so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these sidewalks that y'all getting stretched out on,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not your turf, that's the state turf. This ain't

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<v Speaker 1>your set, this middle of street where you're dying that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care for your mama own the house. Dad

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<v Speaker 1>ain't her land where your mailbox said that ain't her land,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're getting stretched out. It is not really our turfs.

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't be killing each other about the turf in

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<v Speaker 1>our moms renting them houses. That's not your turf. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not they're playing rent. That's the kind of stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>have to start telling them. You know when you can

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<v Speaker 1>still listen to anything you want. But just understand, you

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<v Speaker 1>were more in prison than you are with a nine

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<v Speaker 1>of five all your own business. You weren't more to

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<v Speaker 1>them in prison. Do you want to carry your ass

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<v Speaker 1>in to prison than gone? But you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>this here they will take all your rights from you.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, if you don't listen to your mama,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to wash the dishes or make

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<v Speaker 1>your bed when she said, you ain't got no choice

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. Thank god, thank god that the consumers listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me a X. We would not be sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>with this treasure, not just a hip hop treasure, but

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<v Speaker 1>a world treasure. I mean, we really do appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do brighten people days when you going too

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<v Speaker 1>that Instagram? If you what's your Instagram? Off top the

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Mia X, the Mama mea X. You know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>following it and I do appreciate you when you post

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<v Speaker 1>on mine. You know, yeah, we love you for real.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I love you. You got that spirit man,

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that brightens the room and you uplift

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<v Speaker 1>people with your voice and your attitude. So we really

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate you everything that you brought to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You are to be respected and reckoned with. Oh, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Ma X dope alright.

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