Speaker 1: Yeah, get up, you know, boys, it's back and rehoaded
Speaker 1: all in your mind. Yeah, and now deep throating. This
Speaker 1: is for the streets, the reel, the railroading, the disanfranchise,
Speaker 1: the truth, the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak
Speaker 1: the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
Speaker 1: The North South East coat is the g b B.
Speaker 1: Were keeping your head bobbing, It ain't no stopping and
Speaker 1: wants to be dropped head by then the system is
Speaker 1: so corrupt they throw the rock out their heads and
Speaker 1: then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on
Speaker 1: code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie
Speaker 1: d y'all scarf faces in the building. Collectively we are
Speaker 1: the GHET old boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of
Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, the first lady of note
Speaker 1: limit Mia X, ma'am, hold up, how me are still
Speaker 1: looking good? I'm talking about looking good good? How do
Speaker 1: you do? How do you do it? Mia? Your mama
Speaker 1: looked like that she did, she really did. My grandmother did? Okay, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got them good genes Huh I think so I hope
Speaker 1: so yeah man so man, I mean how how but
Speaker 1: how is your health? Speaking of good genes, how is
Speaker 1: your health? You know? I am taking one day at
Speaker 1: a time and if the Lord says the same, I
Speaker 1: will be cancer free five years March twenty third. So
Speaker 1: but um, you know, after you're ill, it seems like
Speaker 1: the body really fights hard to feel itself and you
Speaker 1: have other complications. You know, you have phantom pains, um.
Speaker 1: So I had. I had to get surgery, a complete
Speaker 1: hysterect me. Sometimes my stomach feels like everything is still there. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I have I have like uh it's like pocket
Speaker 1: mask there benige, but they hurt my legs sometimes and
Speaker 1: make me feel like I'm walking with leg weights. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I still like battle fatigue. So I deal with
Speaker 1: a lot of things that sometimes your doctor tells you
Speaker 1: it's not there, it's in your mind, but your body
Speaker 1: tells you something else. And so um, I'm not complaining,
Speaker 1: but I will say for anyone that has ever battle
Speaker 1: cancer or had any type of serious illness, you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about the fansom pain and how a
Speaker 1: body uh takes time to make you feel whole again.
Speaker 1: It's steadily working, trying to restore itself and deal with
Speaker 1: the things that you've lost. My kidney transplant exactly is
Speaker 1: that those effects are similar because I wake up feeling
Speaker 1: pain right where the kidney is, like oh ship, uh
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And and and when your body fighting off
Speaker 1: I bought off this kidney. So my kidney went into rejection,
Speaker 1: you know, early and early and uh after the transplant,
Speaker 1: like a week later when and um, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a natural thing that your body gonna fight off any
Speaker 1: uh foreign objects are foreign whatever in your body. So
Speaker 1: that's what it did. It was like that you must
Speaker 1: have been thrown at the wrong gang side my body
Speaker 1: like this, you know what, I'm two niggas back there,
Speaker 1: but you you move exactly. They didn't knocked it out
Speaker 1: and I had to go back in the hospital again.
Speaker 1: I never really talked much about it, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a I had a young rejection in the early
Speaker 1: stage after the transplant. Mea, how do you keep it together?
Speaker 1: You know, you do a lot of things. You still,
Speaker 1: I know you did your cook book back into the team, right, yes,
Speaker 1: And how's that going? It's going really well? Um was
Speaker 1: the best seller two years straight at Essence Fest because
Speaker 1: that's where I launched it. Sell most of my stuff online. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's still doing really well. And now I have
Speaker 1: a season in and let me see it's all good
Speaker 1: and I'm working on Yeah, it's a low sodium, a
Speaker 1: purpose ses and then even doper it on my cereal.
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, and look at me. Yeah you know. Sylvia
Speaker 1: inspired me. Sylvia's of Harlem inspired me. And I remember
Speaker 1: being a kid in the grocery store and seeing all
Speaker 1: of the labels and then I saw this black woman
Speaker 1: and she had hot sauce and greens and things, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I really want to be her. Food
Speaker 1: has been a passion for me. I've been in the
Speaker 1: kitchen with my grandmother since seventy five. So yeah, why
Speaker 1: did my label like that? This is dope? This is dope.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of food success and failure comes
Speaker 1: down to packaging. What that label looks like and this
Speaker 1: looks like money? Thank you, beautiful beautiful. So I notice
Speaker 1: is Brad's um sample. But I'll take this and you've
Speaker 1: read another one. Um, because Brad had his a long
Speaker 1: time ago. He didn't tell me about the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was an expert in the culinary arts department, Williams,
Speaker 1: he's an expert in the thug depart Yeah, you can cook,
Speaker 1: we like for real, like really really the food and
Speaker 1: stuff online, I'd be like, man, that looks good. I
Speaker 1: want to eat some of my meals cooking. You gotta
Speaker 1: come to New Orleans. I gotta come to Did you
Speaker 1: cook Houston? No, I didn't get a chance this time
Speaker 1: because we were pressed for time with the concert. So
Speaker 1: but usually when I'm in Houston, I cook right. And
Speaker 1: the concert concert was so fun, so fun. Got to
Speaker 1: meet y'all big in the market at least one. It's
Speaker 1: one of them most definitely. I feel in love every
Speaker 1: time I'm in Houston, like every time, and that's been
Speaker 1: since before No Limit. He was and showed me love
Speaker 1: when I put my first record out thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't look thirty years old. Girl,
Speaker 1: you just said I looked like I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I said you look like Grandma
Speaker 1: on that package. But I am a nigga grandmore. That's
Speaker 1: the So it's right in line with secret Willy. So
Speaker 1: me and me get on the phone, bro and we
Speaker 1: talked and cracked the funk up all day long. Bro.
Speaker 1: She is the funniest person I know. For real, she
Speaker 1: is super funny. How do you keep it in? Because
Speaker 1: I've never seen this, this funny side, because it comes
Speaker 1: out at times, and it's because I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be people just laughing. Sometimes I went the way that
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be funny, but it just comes out.
Speaker 1: My grandmother was like that. You know, she was the
Speaker 1: inspiration behind the cookbook. You see all of those quotes,
Speaker 1: that's the way she spoke. And I just think I
Speaker 1: have that from her. Yeah, yeah, real from the Seventh War. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, from the Seventh War. How was it growing
Speaker 1: up in the Seventh War? Did you grow up with
Speaker 1: your grandmother? Yes? I did grow up with my grandmother. Um.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be born in Dallas. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: my dad was from Dallas. What he did when my
Speaker 1: mom was six months pregnant he got another girl pregnant.
Speaker 1: Oh here, so, um, I have a sister, my Irish twin.
Speaker 1: She she's six months younger than me. But my grandmother
Speaker 1: came to Dallas and snatched my mama up, made a
Speaker 1: come back to New Orleans. She was in college in Dallas.
Speaker 1: You're gonna finish school in New Orleans. You're coming home.
Speaker 1: So I was born in New Orleans, brought home from
Speaker 1: the hospital to my grandmother and grandfather of this home
Speaker 1: because they brought my mom back home, and I grew
Speaker 1: up with my grandmother. I grew up with my grandmother.
Speaker 1: She was just a strong woman, and she wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that my mom still finished school and did
Speaker 1: the things that she aspired to do as well as
Speaker 1: men her broken heart, you know. And so yeah, I
Speaker 1: was with my grandmother, and the Seventh Ward was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Seventh Ward was a place of community. We all looked
Speaker 1: out for each other. We shared everything, you know, food.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people was pulled and things happened, lose their lights
Speaker 1: were sharing that orange and statue cold. So you know,
Speaker 1: like sometimes when when the person lights get cut off,
Speaker 1: your neighbor everybody had these thick orange extension cards. You
Speaker 1: could put it through your window and well or orange orange.
Speaker 1: I love the color orange and I love to eat oranges.
Speaker 1: That's perfect, Okay, go ahead, But you know they would
Speaker 1: take the extension cord and you stick it from your
Speaker 1: window to your neighbor window and they can plug it
Speaker 1: in and use like some of your lights. They did
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. In the seventh Ward they share. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know that sense of community and the seventh
Speaker 1: Ward we definitely had a strong sense of community. You know,
Speaker 1: we really the village was intact what happened. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say like, um, yeah, like around eighty three, I
Speaker 1: began to see the shift, and not just my community
Speaker 1: but just all around nine wall sixth wall for wall
Speaker 1: fifth wards thoughts seeing the change. Um, and it was crack. Uh.
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends parents got on crack, and
Speaker 1: crack killed a lot of the sense of responsibility for
Speaker 1: our adults. So yeah, because you know, Craig became the
Speaker 1: central thing, like I'm not gonna wash my babies, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna feed my babies, I'm not gonna pay my
Speaker 1: bills because I want to rock and yeah, all of
Speaker 1: those things. Yes, that happened, and I saw it around
Speaker 1: uh eighty three, and then it got aggressively worse. And
Speaker 1: then uh, young people including myself, you know, we we
Speaker 1: were Facebook positions like to be in positions like if
Speaker 1: you can't beat them, join them, and so there you know,
Speaker 1: when we was thirteen seeing it happened. By the time
Speaker 1: we was fifteen sixteen, a lot of became the hustlers,
Speaker 1: the dealers, and it just kept going and going and going.
Speaker 1: But many kids were faced with two parents in the
Speaker 1: house that were on crack and they didn't have anything,
Speaker 1: and so they jumped off the porch and jumped into
Speaker 1: the game. And from there the feelings that we have
Speaker 1: for each other began to change. We we stopped, we
Speaker 1: stopped caring. You know, once upon a time, nobody would
Speaker 1: sell nobody, mama, nothing that would poison their spirits, their
Speaker 1: bodies and minds. But then it got to a point where, um,
Speaker 1: everybody was just trying to get by, and I don't
Speaker 1: think we realized someone else, Yeah, what we want to
Speaker 1: give it to us. And that's what started happening. That
Speaker 1: the man didn't affect any anybody in your immediate family, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because um, so like one of my cousins came told
Speaker 1: my mom my dad was always hard working. And one
Speaker 1: of my cousins told my mom, um, this is what's
Speaker 1: going on with your husband. Because certain things started to
Speaker 1: slip with us, you know. And then my daddy said
Speaker 1: that he had crunched up the rock in his weed yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason to say geeks. But um, he had lost
Speaker 1: his job. And at that point I went to my cousin.
Speaker 1: I had four hundred dollars and I said, um, well,
Speaker 1: I needed you to teach me howt the hustle because
Speaker 1: I gotta help my mama. Mm hmm. And one of
Speaker 1: my neighbors, she was like seventeen years older than me.
Speaker 1: She used to take me in the bar room when
Speaker 1: I was young, but she never did anything wrong. You know.
Speaker 1: I used to like to drink beer and I was
Speaker 1: a barroom baby. She went told my mama because she
Speaker 1: had a habit. She told Mom, she said, listen, you
Speaker 1: gotta get on Mia. Mia needs to do her music.
Speaker 1: And Mia sold me some drugs. So when I hit
Speaker 1: the dough, my mama like flashed out because that was
Speaker 1: never her. You know. My mom was like, what's this.
Speaker 1: I hear you selling somebody something, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: not for you. That's not who we are. You can't
Speaker 1: poison our people. You know. My mom was was really
Speaker 1: into us as a people, the community, and she was
Speaker 1: so mad with me, and I was so hurt that
Speaker 1: I had disappointed her because of the way we were raised.
Speaker 1: And then my dad was so messed up that my
Speaker 1: mama told him this is what's going on with her.
Speaker 1: I saw him change. My dad was a type of dude.
Speaker 1: If something hit him m hard enough, he just didn't
Speaker 1: do it. One time, you're smoking cigarettes and he set
Speaker 1: the mattress on fire, he quit. So when he saw
Speaker 1: that I was gonna jump into this game after all
Speaker 1: of the value that they had poured in me, he
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I missed this whole thing up. And
Speaker 1: then he got back on track. But for a lot
Speaker 1: of my friends, you know, we just kind of kept
Speaker 1: on in this game, in this game, in this trap
Speaker 1: that was placed in our community. When you say your
Speaker 1: dad got back on track, he got off track when
Speaker 1: he got into the drug game. Well, he got off
Speaker 1: track when he started smoking geeks because he yeah, he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing what he was supposed to. As far as
Speaker 1: the family, you know it down, He shut it down
Speaker 1: immediately because he didn't want me to be in the game.
Speaker 1: He knew what that led to, is your No. My
Speaker 1: dad died five months after my mom. I really did.
Speaker 1: I had some really really good people. They were honest
Speaker 1: about everything they did. You know, my mom, my dad,
Speaker 1: my grandmother, my grandfather. They never cut any corners with me,
Speaker 1: so we didn't live in a fantasy world. Whatever whatever happened,
Speaker 1: whatever went down, they brought it to us. They explained
Speaker 1: it to us. The lines of communication was always open,
Speaker 1: and that was for good and bad stuff. They speak
Speaker 1: more about your father, you know, we talked about so
Speaker 1: no so um, my biological father died when I was
Speaker 1: six years old, and and yes I have memory of
Speaker 1: him as a provider because he was in California. Actually,
Speaker 1: he became a concert promoter, uh in the late sixties,
Speaker 1: and he he promoted shows Gladys Night like everybody, and
Speaker 1: then he jumped into the rock side, and so he
Speaker 1: began promoting concerts like for Chicago Fleetwood mag He lived
Speaker 1: in California. Yeah, he really was. But he ran with
Speaker 1: the rock stars and party like a rock star. And
Speaker 1: his mom actually, uh, she lied and told me that
Speaker 1: he died from a brain aneurysm. But it wasn't until
Speaker 1: right before my mom died. She connected me and my sister,
Speaker 1: my sister Mick, and um, Mick told me that our
Speaker 1: daddy died of a heroin overdose. M All my life,
Speaker 1: I would think when I was a little girl and
Speaker 1: catch headaches, like I don't want to have an aneurysm
Speaker 1: thinking about my dad. So when I sat down with
Speaker 1: my sister, I'm like, so do you get headaches? And
Speaker 1: she was like, not really, And I was like, because
Speaker 1: I do, and I hope I don't get an annual
Speaker 1: is I'm like dad? And she said, well, Daddy didn't
Speaker 1: have an aneurysm. Daddy died of a hair on overdose.
Speaker 1: So then I go back to my mama and I say, Mama,
Speaker 1: Grandma Ta told me daddy had an aneurysm. You let
Speaker 1: her tell me that. But Mickey say he died from
Speaker 1: her hair on overdose. Then my mom broke the whole
Speaker 1: story down to me because I had no clue that
Speaker 1: me and Mickey was even the same age. My Grandmo
Speaker 1: T told me when I was uh six, that Mickey
Speaker 1: was three, but Mickey was six right with me. So, um,
Speaker 1: my mom met who I called my daddy because this
Speaker 1: man when she met him, he didn't have any kids,
Speaker 1: and then they had my sister, dr Ashley. But from
Speaker 1: day one, he really really loved me as his own
Speaker 1: and and and treated me like I was a part
Speaker 1: of what him and my mother was building. He was
Speaker 1: a good dude. He was a real, real, real good dude,
Speaker 1: and he dedicated his life to us. So you and
Speaker 1: Mickey have the same biological dad dad, Me and doctor
Speaker 1: Ashley have the same mom. Okay, but you the whole
Speaker 1: time you thought that you and Micky had the same
Speaker 1: mom and No. I always knew that I had a
Speaker 1: half sister. I just didn't know how many years older
Speaker 1: than her I was. And I didn't know much about
Speaker 1: her because they were just saying, oh, you know you
Speaker 1: have a sister because I was later in life. So
Speaker 1: in like about two weeks before my mom died, someone
Speaker 1: ranged my doorbell. My mom said, go open the door
Speaker 1: for your sister. So I was like, she got a key,
Speaker 1: and someone was like, go open the door. But when
Speaker 1: I looked on I came. I saw these two people
Speaker 1: standing at the door, and I was like, that's not Ashley.
Speaker 1: When I opened the door, I saw my face. I
Speaker 1: was like, all my life and my family they would
Speaker 1: say me, and you don't look nothing like your mama.
Speaker 1: Who you look like? You know? So I saw my
Speaker 1: face and so she was like, Hi, I'm Mickey. I
Speaker 1: knew I had a sister named Mickey. So instantly that
Speaker 1: connection was like on point. But I think before my
Speaker 1: mom died, she wanted me to know my sister and
Speaker 1: know my blood in Dallas, because I really didn't know them.
Speaker 1: So my mom actually put us together. And um, I
Speaker 1: mean me and Mickey we've been We've been tight ever since,
Speaker 1: and I'm grateful my mom. Did Dad, did your mom
Speaker 1: ever have any hangups about Mickey or with Mickey? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she had to hang up with your dad,
Speaker 1: but uh, because he stepped out right to have her right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So did she ever resent Mickey? Because never matter is
Speaker 1: the fact. She was always telling me when I was
Speaker 1: a little girl, or you have a sister, because being
Speaker 1: the only child, Um, when my cousins would go home,
Speaker 1: I would be lonely and I would always wish I
Speaker 1: had a brother or sister to be in the house
Speaker 1: and play with me. And she would said, well, you
Speaker 1: have a sister, but she lives in Dallas. She never
Speaker 1: felt anyway from what I could see, towards Mickey or
Speaker 1: her mom, because that was a choice that my dad made,
Speaker 1: you know. So uh, there was never any any animal
Speaker 1: city that I could see because she's the one that
Speaker 1: put us together. Me and Mick wouldn't even be the
Speaker 1: way we are now had my mom not found her
Speaker 1: reached out and said, hey, when you come to New Orleans,
Speaker 1: you need to see me. Yeah. She was a special,
Speaker 1: special special uh you know. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: because she's my mama, because she's going just as a
Speaker 1: human being. She was a one and m I found
Speaker 1: out a lot of things, like why we ended up
Speaker 1: coming back to my grandmother's house. That was very devastating
Speaker 1: to my mom, what happened with my dad stepping out
Speaker 1: like that because he was really like her first boyfriend.
Speaker 1: And Um, I found out that her blood pressure was
Speaker 1: so high she had a nervous breakdown when she gave
Speaker 1: birth to me. She had to stay in the hospital
Speaker 1: for two weeks, and I came home with my grandparents. Um,
Speaker 1: they heard a lot of that from me. Until I
Speaker 1: was grown. I never knew how it had affected her,
Speaker 1: you know, And it affected her to the point where
Speaker 1: I remember she used to always say, I don't want
Speaker 1: any more children. But then she met my daddy and
Speaker 1: they got married and they had my sister, you know,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was rough for her. I can imagine,
Speaker 1: you know, how was it for you and died, And
Speaker 1: did it have any effect on your choice of men
Speaker 1: and how you viewed men in terms of fidelity? You
Speaker 1: know what affects me now because as a child, I
Speaker 1: didn't really know much about it. You know, it was
Speaker 1: it was one of those secrets they kept from me
Speaker 1: until I grew up. But when I found out everything
Speaker 1: and I was able to process things, it made a
Speaker 1: lot of fence. Now as far as um men stepping out,
Speaker 1: I think I chose older men. Oh um, quite naturally
Speaker 1: they would step out, but I wouldn't know. Um. And
Speaker 1: then I thought you were gonna say that quite naturally
Speaker 1: they probably got it behind them already, because most a
Speaker 1: lot of times women say they choose older men because
Speaker 1: they got all the horn behind him. Well, that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case for me because I was a young girl
Speaker 1: and guys were older, but they wasn't older in a
Speaker 1: sense where that maturity kicks in. They were still in
Speaker 1: that playful stage, but they were older than me. Um.
Speaker 1: My grandmother used to say, well, you know, if you
Speaker 1: get them while creep and expect to lose them to
Speaker 1: a creeper. So it made me not want um the
Speaker 1: next girl's man. While she had her man. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, um, the experience that I found out
Speaker 1: my mom went through in processing that and then being
Speaker 1: a rap artist and traveling with guys I got a
Speaker 1: chance to see my grandma used to say, a man
Speaker 1: to bring his dick many places, but he can keep
Speaker 1: his heart and on at one. So I started to process, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: some guys are just frisky and they are playing you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're frisky, and they'd be all over the place, and
Speaker 1: you have to find your comfort in your relationship because
Speaker 1: I've had guys step out, and sometimes that was deal
Speaker 1: breakers and sometimes it wasn't you know, Like for instance,
Speaker 1: when I was sick, I knew that physically I wasn't
Speaker 1: in a position to uh be with the man in
Speaker 1: a way that he you know, intimately, And so I
Speaker 1: had to process that if you're with someone, they might
Speaker 1: step out during this battle, but it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to how much they are there for me, because yeah,
Speaker 1: because it dick ship really ain't. That's not a big
Speaker 1: old thing with me more than that honesty and that communication. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the girls that's a little different. Um.
Speaker 1: When we talk about the situation, if it's stepping out,
Speaker 1: and if it's some things I can understand and he
Speaker 1: can understand, it's not necessarily a deal breakup. You know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother always tell me you gotta be clear on
Speaker 1: your hell yeah and your nose. So who was your
Speaker 1: grandmother name? Her name was viola big name, mama, dear
Speaker 1: birtha understand or something. Yeah. So I don't usually step
Speaker 1: in and tell people like how to run their relationship
Speaker 1: if your man is doing this or if your woman
Speaker 1: is doing that, but I do say you gotta be
Speaker 1: clear on your hell yeah and your fun nose. You
Speaker 1: know you spoke about being the only woman I on
Speaker 1: tour with a bunch of guys. How was that just
Speaker 1: being around that whole No Limit family? You being the
Speaker 1: first lady of No Limit? You know, that was a
Speaker 1: great experience. Um, it was a blessing that I was
Speaker 1: around a lot of guys that love their mama's, love
Speaker 1: their sisters, loved the women and their families. They were
Speaker 1: always protective and always respectful. And I gained brothers. Some
Speaker 1: of them I look at like sons, some of them
Speaker 1: might look at like nephews. But I gained a real
Speaker 1: centense of family, and still to this day, like when
Speaker 1: I first linked up with Pete was ninety four, So
Speaker 1: now we're in still to this day, those guys that
Speaker 1: are a part of that organization still treat me like families.
Speaker 1: Still have the utmost respect and coming together for the tour,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of us hadn't seen each other
Speaker 1: in years, but we immediately click clacked immediately. You know,
Speaker 1: some of us are just gonna be that. Do you
Speaker 1: still communicate with Pete? You know when I see him
Speaker 1: on tour, But we really don't communicate the way we
Speaker 1: did in the nineties because I was a part of
Speaker 1: the label and I was there and um there to
Speaker 1: give him a lot of input and ideas to match
Speaker 1: his hustle so that we could make No Limit be
Speaker 1: what it was. But peas like California guys, been in
Speaker 1: California a long time. I'm a New Orleans girl, and
Speaker 1: when I left the label, we didn't communicate a lot
Speaker 1: when I see him. You know how some people just
Speaker 1: think gonna be your family regardless, So when I see him,
Speaker 1: it's always family. But we don't communicate the way we
Speaker 1: used to when you were on No Limit and you
Speaker 1: had to go in that studio. You guys were, and
Speaker 1: y'all had to be the most prolific label in the
Speaker 1: history of labels. I mean the way y'all was putting
Speaker 1: those records out back to back to back to back.
Speaker 1: It seems like every two weeks there was a new
Speaker 1: artist dropping on the memory and everybody with stars. Everybody
Speaker 1: was a stone, everybody, everybody was a star. So when
Speaker 1: you go in the studio, y'all were helping each other
Speaker 1: out with your projects, everybody jumping on everybody records and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Did you did you ever feel any
Speaker 1: type of pressure or did you ever feel like you
Speaker 1: had anything to prove? You're gonna you're getting on these
Speaker 1: records with all these guys. It wasn't so much that
Speaker 1: I felt like I had something to prove, but I
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to make a statement for the ladies. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make the women proud. Every time I picked
Speaker 1: up my pen, I wanted them to know that whatever
Speaker 1: the subject matter was, however the beat was, I was
Speaker 1: gonna ride it and I was gonna run it. So
Speaker 1: that's what it was for me. I wanted to give
Speaker 1: the ladies, especially heavy set women, because you know, I
Speaker 1: came in the game with two stomachs. You know, I'll
Speaker 1: drink that too. But I'm just saying I came in
Speaker 1: the game and I wasn't really like the prototype for
Speaker 1: what what the industry was pushing out. So it was
Speaker 1: important for me to let people know big girls look good,
Speaker 1: smell good, we ride good, we live good, our hearts
Speaker 1: are pure, and stop just thinking because we don't fit
Speaker 1: a certain mold that we need to be looked over.
Speaker 1: And then, as far as talent, as in MC, I
Speaker 1: jumped in this game in eighty four, I wanted people
Speaker 1: to know that I was an MC. That's more than anything,
Speaker 1: and that's still the way I feel to this day.
Speaker 1: You know, I want you to not just look, oh,
Speaker 1: mea X was from the South, because they do that
Speaker 1: to Southern artists all the time, you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's good for the South. I know. I wanted them
Speaker 1: to know that I was good. And if you put
Speaker 1: me up against anybody on any coast that you think
Speaker 1: was good, I'm gonna show you how good I am.
Speaker 1: That was my whole thing, my whole motivation, at no
Speaker 1: limit um jumping on each other's projects. I mean, we
Speaker 1: did that to make sure that we could push the
Speaker 1: records out. A lot of people had deadlines. They wanted
Speaker 1: to make their deadlines. Me for Mama Drama, I had
Speaker 1: to write sixteen or the twenty records in ten days
Speaker 1: because I wanted to come out when I was supposed
Speaker 1: to come out, but we were shooting movies and you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of got behind track, and people was like, well,
Speaker 1: if you want to drive, you're gonna have to hurry
Speaker 1: up and go finish your record. I jumped on that
Speaker 1: red eye and when finished my record, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so we had our own studio in Louisiana, but then
Speaker 1: um we were in California going to a few studios. Yes,
Speaker 1: I lived in California. Um. I moved to California because
Speaker 1: P and then was still in the Bay and that's
Speaker 1: pretty much where the label was. So I left New
Speaker 1: Orleans and I went to California. California, you know I do.
Speaker 1: It was the best weather on your own, the biggest,
Speaker 1: prettiest flowers. It's like the flowers, the lemons, the oranges.
Speaker 1: Everything just looked big. The grass looked green, was really nice,
Speaker 1: and you could be in the hood where some real
Speaker 1: road gangster ship is going on, but the flowers, everything
Speaker 1: is so pretty. But I don't live in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: New Orleans living me, so I have to always I'm
Speaker 1: back home no matter where I live. I've enjoyed many
Speaker 1: places in California. Has one some chicken bur I mean
Speaker 1: some chicken b I mean some seafood. Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: were coming up rapping, did you hone your skills via
Speaker 1: talent shows and competitions? Did you kind of like get
Speaker 1: into it? Now? I was at every talent show um,
Speaker 1: and we were part of a group me and Manny
Speaker 1: Fresh called New York Incorporated. Uh So we got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to give dances and be the DJ crew. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times when remember when we were young,
Speaker 1: we used to really have teen dances and places to
Speaker 1: go to as teenagers to enjoy the music. We will
Speaker 1: always be one of the DJ crews. When the super
Speaker 1: domes started opening up and allowing a dance space for teenagers,
Speaker 1: we were one of the DJ crews. And then we
Speaker 1: had a man named Mr. Eli. He was like the
Speaker 1: concert promoter for raps, so he did all of the
Speaker 1: Rapp Attack concerts. We were blessed to be young kids
Speaker 1: opening up for all of the acts as they would drop.
Speaker 1: So Dougie Fresh. It's like rick uh. He was opening
Speaker 1: up for them. The first rapp attack had L. L. Coolmore,
Speaker 1: d jay Z, jeff In, the Fresh, Prince, jek O
Speaker 1: and Hide. We got a chance to taste the big
Speaker 1: stage when we were young. Yes, and he rode around
Speaker 1: on the truck. Yes, many Fresh Daddy had he could
Speaker 1: ride around. He was like one of the first mobile DJs.
Speaker 1: But then he was a staple in a lot of
Speaker 1: the New Orleans ballroms. So, um, I didn't get it easy.
Speaker 1: I had to get it out the crawfish mud. And
Speaker 1: that's a whole another kind of mud. That's a whole
Speaker 1: another kind of mud. And um, it was important when
Speaker 1: I was coming up. You know, it was battling, it
Speaker 1: was writing. It was all about writing. And and I'm
Speaker 1: glad to be a part of that school. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were battling. Did you ever get booed? Never? Did you
Speaker 1: ever get boolges doing that's a regular show, like a
Speaker 1: talent show or something like that. You never? I never
Speaker 1: been well, no, let me tell you no, let me
Speaker 1: tell you so bowled? Was St. Louis when we first
Speaker 1: started this damn tour again. Man, Yes, and that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite places. Like as far as not like
Speaker 1: maybe it was, but yeah, we get to see Louis St. Louis. St.
Speaker 1: Louis Is sold out. My people in St. Louis then
Speaker 1: bought every piece of camouflage in St. Louis. First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know the particulars on how the runner shows
Speaker 1: go as far as the technical side, but they had
Speaker 1: the people waiting two hours after they had been waiting
Speaker 1: two hours us. They played the wrong record. The wrong
Speaker 1: record so we always come out on the limits soldiers.
Speaker 1: They played, uh, hot boys and not girls? Who you
Speaker 1: got DJ? Right? Well, I mean yeah, he got a DJ,
Speaker 1: but something happened where hot boys and hot girls came on.
Speaker 1: He was enraged and I was trying to say, well,
Speaker 1: let's just go with it, let's just go with it.
Speaker 1: But there was a pause where we didn't go with it,
Speaker 1: and the DJ scrambled to put the right record on,
Speaker 1: but the people started booing. Then when we got out there,
Speaker 1: the music cut off at one point, so they started
Speaker 1: booing again. So that's that's how I experienced the boing.
Speaker 1: The show went on and they got into it the
Speaker 1: music because they loved the music. But initially they was
Speaker 1: frustrated Yeah, that's a different guy. That's frustrating boot that
Speaker 1: it wasn't that it was boring, Like yall ship in,
Speaker 1: y'all asses here, and we want to get right into
Speaker 1: it and we're not getting nothing into it now. But
Speaker 1: we all st Louis, We really do because um, everybody
Speaker 1: else have gotten a chance to enjoy the full experience
Speaker 1: and they didn't. So yeah, yeah they bowed. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll be damn yeah, but that that's we got booed.
Speaker 1: We went to New York started coke, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, no, we went to New York when
Speaker 1: we first started as ghetto boys, and we were talking
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking in street ship and back
Speaker 1: you know in in in in the late eighties, New
Speaker 1: York rappers was backpackers. They were talking about how good
Speaker 1: they get wrapped, and we were talking about hose, We're
Speaker 1: talking about dope, We're talking about beat nigga's asses for me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody talking about Then we got boomed. But we also
Speaker 1: was talking about loyalty and taking care of your family
Speaker 1: and things like that, and police brutality and corrupt you know,
Speaker 1: corrupt politicis real ship because I'm gonna tell you. People
Speaker 1: would come to my house and Ghetto Boys would be
Speaker 1: blasting and they would say, like, your mama gonna say
Speaker 1: and I say, na, she cooking, that's her playing that.
Speaker 1: That's no sellout, that's hard, that's you know, that's my mama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very very strong activist. But mama would be banging the
Speaker 1: records and my friends would think it's me and think
Speaker 1: it's so loud, like you're gonna get in trouble. You
Speaker 1: got the whole house rocking. Oh, my mama is in
Speaker 1: the kitchen with the boom box, and that is her
Speaker 1: playing Ghetto Boys. So my mom understood the message and
Speaker 1: the music, even though it was distorted sometimes by cussing
Speaker 1: and violence. I mean, those things were happening in our community.
Speaker 1: And y'all know it's by eighty three. The subject matter
Speaker 1: was there for us when we looked out the window,
Speaker 1: when we stepped outside, when we went into the schools,
Speaker 1: and we knew some of our friends was, you know,
Speaker 1: needing clean like us, and then we saw him coming
Speaker 1: to school dirty. Yeah, and you know what, and we
Speaker 1: we just never wanted to brag about the life. Our
Speaker 1: thing was always getting out and doing better, trying to
Speaker 1: better situation and giving information and instructions like we do
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's always been about that, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you, your mom and other people
Speaker 1: who were able to get the messages saw saw the message,
Speaker 1: heard the message and didn't get like uh, didn't get
Speaker 1: blinded and getting didn't get sidetracked by the prof ay
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was some serious messages and and that
Speaker 1: was my mama's whole thing with me. Um. She was
Speaker 1: like this, don't be saying stupid stuff. Just to be
Speaker 1: saying stupid stuff. I don't mind your cussin because my
Speaker 1: grandmother custom you know, come from a custom household. But
Speaker 1: she wanted me to always make it make sense, especially
Speaker 1: to my people. And she didn't care the way I
Speaker 1: said it. She didn't care the way I said it,
Speaker 1: but it had to make sense for our people. And
Speaker 1: she wanted me to always be able to express and
Speaker 1: explain myself. You know, when when Rap was put on
Speaker 1: trial for the things that we were saying. But the
Speaker 1: thing about it is when we stepped outside, that's what
Speaker 1: was going on before the shift in in music and
Speaker 1: the way it is now, and when we started talking
Speaker 1: about things before that shift, that stuff was still there.
Speaker 1: People was on the car on the selling drugs. We
Speaker 1: learned about strawberries before n w A saying something about
Speaker 1: a strawberry. We knew people was sucking dicks for rocks
Speaker 1: and selling all this stuff. We knew that before we
Speaker 1: went into the studio. We saw that that's what was
Speaker 1: happening in our community before rap. Most of us is
Speaker 1: older than the first hip hop record that dropped, So
Speaker 1: it wasn't just a rap artist and a rap music.
Speaker 1: That stuff was happening, and and and things wasn't so
Speaker 1: sunny and so bright to just talk about. It wasn't
Speaker 1: all party music. After a while you had to start saying, well,
Speaker 1: damn everybody on rocks, and now people killing each other
Speaker 1: behind rocks, and now turfs are being established in a
Speaker 1: name a crack those territories. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff happened before records was even dropped.
Speaker 1: And then you have the kids. You know, if your
Speaker 1: parents wasn't giving you both signs of it, so when
Speaker 1: they picked they pin up, it just sounds all negative, negative, negative,
Speaker 1: but they was living in that. Now we got a
Speaker 1: lot of kids. I don't like the ones that you know,
Speaker 1: jump clean up out of beautiful house with a beautiful
Speaker 1: situation and nobody struggling, and then make this struggle music
Speaker 1: for the sense of just profiting. We was knee deep
Speaker 1: in that ship. We was knee deep in it. And um,
Speaker 1: that's what I want people to understand. As far as
Speaker 1: the shift and like, uh that the mid and late
Speaker 1: eighties when the whole tide turned, and now you know,
Speaker 1: the music we have is just just a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of craziness. Whereas we did still have that
Speaker 1: balance because y'all got booed in New York because they
Speaker 1: was backpacking and y'all was running what y'all was running,
Speaker 1: and then California started running what they was running, you know,
Speaker 1: and we still had the diversity. Though. If you wanted
Speaker 1: to listen to a backpacker, you could. You wanted to
Speaker 1: listen to school, a person that was talking street music
Speaker 1: or what they said gangster rap, you could. You want
Speaker 1: to listen to a person that was doing all party music,
Speaker 1: you could. Now you have to go searching on the
Speaker 1: internet to find these artists because a lot of times
Speaker 1: we're just getting that one thing pushed out, and by
Speaker 1: that one thing being pushed out, it gives a rap
Speaker 1: as a whole a bad name. What do you think
Speaker 1: about Cardi b making the stallion Nikki? These type of artists,
Speaker 1: the women who's uh pushing running ship, pushing the the
Speaker 1: independent running ship and also getting over on men narrative.
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of that, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: not just it's not just about like no being independent
Speaker 1: or whatever, but a lot of it is like, you know,
Speaker 1: fuck you pay me? Like I mean, I'm saying that
Speaker 1: it is. Look, let me tell you something because that's
Speaker 1: the game. But I'm asking my first record, my first record.
Speaker 1: Payback is the reason why I will never come for
Speaker 1: a lady in her lyrics. But prior to uh, fuck
Speaker 1: you pay me, it was like fuck a bitch, don't
Speaker 1: trust no bitch has six or seven bitches. So that's
Speaker 1: what we were listening to. So the other side of
Speaker 1: it is, well, all right, then if it's don't trust
Speaker 1: no bitches, have six or seven bitches, then when you
Speaker 1: funk with me, pay me, that's pretty much what happened.
Speaker 1: But like, uh, but how do you how do you
Speaker 1: how do you do you get to say fuck you
Speaker 1: pay me and still be considered a respectable woman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, a respectable woman is in is really
Speaker 1: in the eyes of who who's ever about to call
Speaker 1: your respectable or not respectable? My grandmother was h puss
Speaker 1: it out when bread don't show us grits groceries. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, so look and your mom. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: there with with the with the rapping um and and
Speaker 1: in the tone that music takes, what the funk you
Speaker 1: pay me? It really comes from years and years are
Speaker 1: listening to how some guys come across on the music.
Speaker 1: Because let me tell you something, pay back the guys
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know when bounce music was created,
Speaker 1: it was you know, bitch stopped talking, that ship stuck
Speaker 1: and they get thick for outfit. So when I came out,
Speaker 1: I was like, oops, oo's got some hair and your teeth.
Speaker 1: Bit you graduated from tips and now you're nicking clicks.
Speaker 1: But that straight came from what I was hearing from
Speaker 1: the guys. It could be you know what, it could
Speaker 1: be comed by y'all. And and look look at look
Speaker 1: at this. Uh, Megan is in a relationship. Kardi and
Speaker 1: Nikki are married women, so you know they love their kings.
Speaker 1: You know they respect their relationships. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: somebody has to be the voice when we have all
Speaker 1: these other voices chirping in the background about bitches and
Speaker 1: funk holes and don't trust them bitches and you know,
Speaker 1: don't love them, duck them. When you have that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, they have to be another voice
Speaker 1: that have to be that balance. You know what. That's
Speaker 1: a good point. But here's the thing, like what I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm experiencing here, what I'm witnessing here
Speaker 1: is a cycle. Because men will we'll say, well, the
Speaker 1: reason why we feel this way and the reason why
Speaker 1: we're saying letahobia hole is because we've been played by women.
Speaker 1: We've been you know, used by women. So so everybody,
Speaker 1: if you played again, that's why you little know that
Speaker 1: you've been played. So so himself has been played. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, you can't you can't even learn
Speaker 1: in order to win and appreciate winning. You gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to lose first to appreciate winning. But anyway, man,
Speaker 1: moving on this. No, no, no, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: throw y'all. Willie. I've just been on you a long
Speaker 1: end time, bro, and I have never seen this side
Speaker 1: of you. Man, you have really changed changed. Well I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to change, Brad. You know it's called growing. No,
Speaker 1: it's all good though, I'm just saying that that's crazy,
Speaker 1: like I was saying, you know, drugs. I think go
Speaker 1: back to what happens to our community, Like our families
Speaker 1: really were broken up and separated, and where you had
Speaker 1: strong women and men who are now addicts. They did
Speaker 1: things that was out of their character all the while
Speaker 1: they still was raising children. So that took a shift
Speaker 1: in our mentality where we used to really really love
Speaker 1: and depend on each other, especially in our black men
Speaker 1: and black women. It's like so much distrust. You don't
Speaker 1: trust each other anymore. Where is it? Let me say this,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you, like where is that coming from?
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask so Cardi, uh Bgan, Nikki Dope,
Speaker 1: super Dope actually like all of them. And I have
Speaker 1: a personal love for Megan because she's age twn. You
Speaker 1: know that that's our girl. So and yeah, a beautiful person.
Speaker 1: But I just wanna the question is is a valid question?
Speaker 1: I do believe because I mean they are they are
Speaker 1: the women who are who are carrying the torch right
Speaker 1: now they're out in the front, and that's a that's
Speaker 1: a that's a legitimate question. Uh, I do believe because
Speaker 1: we're we're we are faced with these we are faced
Speaker 1: with this, this this this thing where that battle to
Speaker 1: your point, we we got this the men over here,
Speaker 1: the women over here, and and everybody's plutting fingers at
Speaker 1: each other. And at the same time, we're still trying
Speaker 1: to raise babies, We're still figuring out a way to
Speaker 1: I still um attracted to you. I still want to
Speaker 1: have sex, which you want to look, we want to
Speaker 1: have family, want to have baby, but I hate you.
Speaker 1: Ask at the same time, like, how do we how
Speaker 1: do we get out of that mold that we're in
Speaker 1: right because right now it is a lot of bickering
Speaker 1: going back and forth, the men blaming the women, the
Speaker 1: women are blaming the men. And I'm sitting back like, yeah,
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's have created the perfect storm. What's happening right here,
Speaker 1: right now is the perfect storm. We can we can
Speaker 1: win a lot of battles. One battle we cannot win
Speaker 1: is we cannot win the battle of the sexiest. We
Speaker 1: cannot we cannot win a fight against each other. Black
Speaker 1: men and black women can. That is a losing battle.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna win that fight. So you can get into
Speaker 1: your feelings all you want, but if you really care
Speaker 1: about your people, and you really care about your survival,
Speaker 1: then it is incombatible on you to figure that ship
Speaker 1: out and get out of your feelings and and and
Speaker 1: do what's best for yourself and for your family and
Speaker 1: for your people, because the trajectory that we're on right now,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it. We can live. We can
Speaker 1: win a lot of fights. We can we some fighting, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We can survive. Everything has ever been throwing our weight,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna survive. Other ship they're gonna be throwing
Speaker 1: our way. Then there's somewhere plotting right now to throw
Speaker 1: us off again and sunk us up right, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna survive that bullshit too. We figure it out, but
Speaker 1: we can't survive. You know. You know what I always
Speaker 1: think about though, I always think about the US versus US.
Speaker 1: You know that that really happens centuries before we got here.
Speaker 1: I always think about if I had my master's baby,
Speaker 1: I'm pushed this white baby out, but my husband got
Speaker 1: to be right here. Even though my hands was tied
Speaker 1: and so was his. We still don't like each other
Speaker 1: because of what just happened. He couldn't help me because
Speaker 1: I was violated, and I couldn't help him because that's
Speaker 1: his master. So I think centuries ago we started looking
Speaker 1: at each other differently. And I think when we started
Speaker 1: to get on track, like after slavery and and cities
Speaker 1: were established by us and our businesses, we were on point,
Speaker 1: and then the city started getting bombed and then lynching
Speaker 1: our men, lynching our women. I'm a woman, and y'all
Speaker 1: budge in my house and take my son and my
Speaker 1: husband can't do nothing. I'm mad with him. I'm mad
Speaker 1: with him. You know, rape my daughter and you can't
Speaker 1: do nothing. I'm mad with you. I won't do nothing. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hands tied, because you know, if if
Speaker 1: the lynch mob is there with all of the guns
Speaker 1: and the torches and we don't have anything but the
Speaker 1: things that were yielding in our home, his hands was tied.
Speaker 1: So physically, emotionally and mentally, that division that was a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and we are still fighting to escape
Speaker 1: that initial division, right and like now we don't even
Speaker 1: think about that kind of stuff. We just think about
Speaker 1: with like rap. You know, fuck you, nigga, pay me,
Speaker 1: fuck these holes, be with other holes. We think it's that,
Speaker 1: but it's stuff so deep in us, and young people
Speaker 1: don't even know. You know, I know it's not hip hop.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not stupid. No, I know it's not.
Speaker 1: It's deeper than hip hop. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: just a psychologically, I don't think it's clicking with men
Speaker 1: and women that, um, we have this trauma. We have
Speaker 1: this trauma that's been passed on to us from generations
Speaker 1: that we don't trust each other. We don't know if
Speaker 1: you're really gonna look out for me. We don't really
Speaker 1: trust each other word. I mean, you say you're gonna
Speaker 1: bring the pampers in, but I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: bring We start feeling like that immediately, and we might
Speaker 1: not know all day. He trying to make sure he
Speaker 1: get the pampers for the month. We we don't even know.
Speaker 1: But you know, those walls and that anger, that suspicion.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with that more than the stuff we think is the right. Now.
Speaker 1: You know, when you first meet a woman might like
Speaker 1: this woman she might be everything esthetically one she they
Speaker 1: talked to talk you like, but in the back of
Speaker 1: your mind you still saying, waiting for the other shooter drop.
Speaker 1: See was this motherfucker really gonna do? Like we come
Speaker 1: in with each other. I don't think other racests come
Speaker 1: in with that suspicion to see that was a plot
Speaker 1: and part of a plan that was done to us
Speaker 1: alone long time ago. The trip part about it mean
Speaker 1: is that that plan, that plot is still in motion
Speaker 1: and they're constantly doing certain things the sneaky ass canine
Speaker 1: and things to further divide us. And it's like we
Speaker 1: keep walking right into the trap because we got we
Speaker 1: got the spirituality in the common sense torture out of
Speaker 1: us a long time ago. Um, like I said, we're
Speaker 1: dealing with trauma. But see here's the thing, Like for me,
Speaker 1: I believe everybody's just really really just super into their
Speaker 1: feelings and nobody's really thinking critically because for me, there
Speaker 1: is nothing you can do. There is no woman made
Speaker 1: of woman who can turn me against women, not Black
Speaker 1: women specific they ain't a woman. It don't matter, Like
Speaker 1: like I'm not never gonna get that that into my feelings.
Speaker 1: I'm not like like some of these do it. It's
Speaker 1: a dude right now listening to me, right now, he's
Speaker 1: about to cry, you know, and you know he got
Speaker 1: home in him. You know, like he really got home
Speaker 1: in him. Like he very emotionally type. Emotional type dude.
Speaker 1: You know he to do that say I love my mom,
Speaker 1: I love my kids, I love my daughter, but I
Speaker 1: hate women. This ship don't even make sense to me,
Speaker 1: Like how can you as a man hate that which
Speaker 1: you come from. How can you hate women and have
Speaker 1: a daughter or mother say you love them, but you
Speaker 1: hate black women? How can you, as a black woman
Speaker 1: say I hate black men, but you love your black son.
Speaker 1: You ain't even qualified to raise him because you hate
Speaker 1: what that which he is to become. You're not qualified
Speaker 1: to raising. You can't give something that you ain't got.
Speaker 1: The all these people that's online, that's that that's crying
Speaker 1: and and complaining all the damn time about black people,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about black people. Self hate, bro that
Speaker 1: self hate, self hate. Get out your feelings. And if
Speaker 1: you cannot get out your feelings, get out of the way,
Speaker 1: take your ass somewhere on another planet and go set
Speaker 1: up shot and all your motherfucker's get out the way
Speaker 1: because we got some we got some black people out here.
Speaker 1: There's still a little of that blackness, you know. Like
Speaker 1: I am like this ship right here. You see this
Speaker 1: motherfucker's scan This is cool ship, right, this ship right here, Man,
Speaker 1: this ship is cold letting right. What the fun I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be? Man, come on, has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with programs. Look at that goddamn brounche that should look good.
Speaker 1: But but the programming and they can't get me with that,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They can't get me with that ship. Like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like if you hate yourself, gag because
Speaker 1: there ain't nothing you can give to the world. Ain's
Speaker 1: nothing you can do. You can't do ship for nobody
Speaker 1: unless you do something for yourself first. So you may
Speaker 1: thank you being smart and you slick, and you above
Speaker 1: everybody else, you're more intelligent than others, because you have
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that you don't like nobody that
Speaker 1: looks like you. You don't like them because they you know.
Speaker 1: You may thank you smart, but you really wanted the
Speaker 1: dumbest motherfucker's in the world, because self hate is the
Speaker 1: worst hate. But see I think our people are the
Speaker 1: only ones that programming and conditioning is. Uh, it's like
Speaker 1: centered on because we have a lot of friends were
Speaker 1: in hip hop and now everybody loves hip hop and everybody,
Speaker 1: all the folks are not conditioned to feel like they
Speaker 1: women as bitch as a whole and they men or
Speaker 1: nobody's embold arms, you know, dead beats. Those words are
Speaker 1: not even used in in in you know, with other people.
Speaker 1: It's a direct target, and unfortunately we do fall for
Speaker 1: it because it's programmed constantly, constantly to make you feel
Speaker 1: like if your mama not married, then she must have
Speaker 1: been a whole, you know, or if your daddy didn't
Speaker 1: pay child support, he just dropped something off, he's a
Speaker 1: dead beat. You know, we've been targeted, and then once
Speaker 1: we were targeted, our people are constantly programmed. So you'll
Speaker 1: have a young lady who don't have kids yet get
Speaker 1: all her education, move with the system. She may turn
Speaker 1: her nose down at a brother that's not educated and
Speaker 1: automatically assumed that he's a bum. Because these this is
Speaker 1: how we're being conditioned. They don't do that to nobody else.
Speaker 1: Now what my mom raised me to believe that because
Speaker 1: so much of this was being done to us that
Speaker 1: let me know how great we were. You gotta keep
Speaker 1: tugging these people hate I miss your mom. You gotta
Speaker 1: keep talking in these people. You gotta keep trying to
Speaker 1: uh infest them with drugs, diseases in the wrong programming.
Speaker 1: You know, Like, we were the only people in the
Speaker 1: world that was rewired in every sense of the way,
Speaker 1: how we think, how we eat, how we love, how
Speaker 1: we commune. We're the only people in the world that
Speaker 1: that was done too. And I want to go on
Speaker 1: record right now until some of you, oh dirty motherfucker's
Speaker 1: out there that's listening to this show right now that
Speaker 1: I like to say, ship like with cent of the
Speaker 1: population is responsible for eight of the murders they responsible
Speaker 1: locked up in all this stupid ship. Me tell y'all something.
Speaker 1: Let me explain something to your dumb ass. No group
Speaker 1: of people in the history of civilization has ever been
Speaker 1: able to reach their full potential when they've been targeted
Speaker 1: by their own government for failure. The government makes the laws,
Speaker 1: the government enforces the laws. I tripled that any motherfucking
Speaker 1: race out there on this planet to try that ship
Speaker 1: in any country where you're being targeted by your own government.
Speaker 1: Your ass wouldn't come nowhere close to what we've been
Speaker 1: able to accomplish with all of these attacks on us,
Speaker 1: year after year, decade after decade, century after century. You
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. You're fucking jump off fucking building. You
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. We're on the constant attack. So it's
Speaker 1: not just it was the law. It's not killing. You
Speaker 1: can have him, you can buy him, you can sell him,
Speaker 1: you can rape his grandma, you can use his babies
Speaker 1: for alligator bait. The United States federal government said that
Speaker 1: was cool. Go ahead, We're not mad at you. And
Speaker 1: then you know, like you rise up from the ashes,
Speaker 1: and what do they do. They try to try to
Speaker 1: get out. They recognize our greatness because what they do,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll try to go and find our best, get
Speaker 1: our greatest, and then try to use them against us.
Speaker 1: Get them to come over here and work for them. Hey,
Speaker 1: they don't don't go over there, don't don't work them,
Speaker 1: don't help them either. They'll try to build somebody just
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to build one of bears like us.
Speaker 1: Happens all the time. Man, I love this, I love this.
Speaker 1: Singer let's get the great white hope to be you know,
Speaker 1: great whatever, Like it's cold blooded. Man, I see this
Speaker 1: ship all the time. I just think when when when
Speaker 1: men and women know, you know that that the family
Speaker 1: was definitely targeted. Um and and we were programmed to
Speaker 1: look at us in a negative light. We were programmed
Speaker 1: to look at us in a negative light. So even
Speaker 1: when you're trying, there's all these little things that make
Speaker 1: those glitches. Like I said, it starts that division. Trying
Speaker 1: bro think about what she's saying. Like I think about
Speaker 1: even when you're like the average person get up and
Speaker 1: try to go out and be productive in the world, right,
Speaker 1: trying to make something out of themselves. And in most
Speaker 1: cases the average person that's the average person is there's
Speaker 1: no interference being read the average black person get up,
Speaker 1: go out and try to make some especially black men.
Speaker 1: And what do you have police fucking with you? I right,
Speaker 1: they rideing on. You're trying to funk what you go
Speaker 1: ohuat and do, try to get your job or whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: They won't hire you. So and this is the thing,
Speaker 1: like for us, we need to get used to being entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: Fuck trying to go and get it. Education to work
Speaker 1: for them, get that ship, learned that ship so you
Speaker 1: can work for yourself, and and and so that you
Speaker 1: can and and and so that you can give your
Speaker 1: your children can come work for you instead of trying
Speaker 1: to go out and work for them. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we gotta get used to that because a
Speaker 1: they got the ship stacked up against us, and that's
Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be. It's not gonna change. And
Speaker 1: exactly stole all this ship and then created well by
Speaker 1: selling what they stole. Uh, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to ask you a question. So the Willie Lynch theory,
Speaker 1: the letter you read that Willie how it was really
Speaker 1: it was Willie Lynch really a person or is somebody
Speaker 1: just bring the ship out of the thing there what
Speaker 1: they're saying, that's it. That was actual name. That was
Speaker 1: his name, and that and that was his letter how
Speaker 1: to make a slave and that ship at that instruction
Speaker 1: manual that he installed back in the seventeen hundreds still
Speaker 1: applies to right now. You know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: you you turned the man against the woman, the child
Speaker 1: against the parents, you know, the bright guy against the
Speaker 1: dark skin. You know, like it's still in effect, right
Speaker 1: now look at the wickedness man, Look what what what
Speaker 1: type of country? What type of government? One? Look what
Speaker 1: what type of government would would would would purposely make
Speaker 1: sure that the men of a specific group could not
Speaker 1: be imployed. And then go to his woman and say,
Speaker 1: as long as he will give you some money, but
Speaker 1: you can't have him in the house at all. You
Speaker 1: gotta kick him out of that you can't work, and
Speaker 1: you can, you can work. So what was that about? See,
Speaker 1: and people think you can just turn that ship off.
Speaker 1: This is conditioning, This is generations, and this ship has
Speaker 1: passed down just like any other type of conditioning can
Speaker 1: be passed down. It can be good, bad, or and different,
Speaker 1: but it's passed down. So it just trist me out.
Speaker 1: How you have people that try to ignore these type
Speaker 1: of facts, act like this ship don't matter your government.
Speaker 1: Your government goes in and tell a woman, look, kick
Speaker 1: him out of the house and we'll give you some
Speaker 1: money to take care of you and the kids. But
Speaker 1: you can't work. And he we've been not catch him
Speaker 1: over here. So and guess what he gotta be. Not
Speaker 1: only does he have to be out of the house,
Speaker 1: we bet not catch him when we roll up he'd
Speaker 1: better not be here. So now what's in the guy's head?
Speaker 1: You know, I can't miss that up for her and kids.
Speaker 1: They won't give me a job. I can't mess that
Speaker 1: up for him. And I'm scared to go over there
Speaker 1: because they might show up. Yeah, the movie Claudine, you
Speaker 1: remember that how to Toasta? Howd the TV the welfare
Speaker 1: people came? I remember. I remember that movie vaguely, but
Speaker 1: I remember the old school movie. I think seventies right,
Speaker 1: But but it was the welfare They thought the welfare
Speaker 1: lady was coming, and it was a woman and a
Speaker 1: man children who loved each other. Welfare people were coming
Speaker 1: um and and so the things that they were able
Speaker 1: to saving buy like a TV and toaster, ironing board,
Speaker 1: things that you wasn't supposed to have living under the assistance,
Speaker 1: because I was supposed to have this money. So when
Speaker 1: the welfare lady came, they were running scrambling, trying to
Speaker 1: hide what I guess that the system would consider as
Speaker 1: as a luxury. But it was an ironing board TV.
Speaker 1: You know. That stuck out with with me in that movie.
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, but it always just like, wow,
Speaker 1: they have to hide their TV. If the high, they toasted,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But I think now we put so
Speaker 1: much focus on what you know what, it's the music,
Speaker 1: you know what. Else it's because they don't want to uh,
Speaker 1: they don't want to pull their pants up. You know.
Speaker 1: We we we put a lot of blame on those
Speaker 1: things without stepping back and saying, hey, y'all, we've been
Speaker 1: living with some trauma for centuries, and we birth babies
Speaker 1: and we birthed them into the trauma. You know, we
Speaker 1: birthed them into the trauma. And um, I think with
Speaker 1: a lot of artists with our music, we don't hate
Speaker 1: each other at all. And it's almost like what we
Speaker 1: call Jones and ribbon on these wreck is that we've
Speaker 1: done in hip hop so long. But one of the
Speaker 1: problems I have is a lot of other artists with
Speaker 1: different topics are not being pushed in the front. When
Speaker 1: we first started doing it, we saw a lot of
Speaker 1: artists being pushed to the front, a lot of talented artists,
Speaker 1: a lot of diversity. We don't see the diversity as much.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you have to go searching, you know,
Speaker 1: for this artist for lyrics and you know this artist
Speaker 1: if you want to feel a party vibe, we have
Speaker 1: to go searching for that when when there was public Enemy,
Speaker 1: when there was ghetto boys, you know, and there was
Speaker 1: Young MC. Also, we don't see hip hop like that anymore,
Speaker 1: where there was a variety of whatever you liked as
Speaker 1: far as you know, your music or your lyrical content.
Speaker 1: Now the stuff that's really being pushed out is a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that seems like it's just fun
Speaker 1: niggas and bitches and kill niggas and kill bitches. We
Speaker 1: used to have a lot of variety. It was it
Speaker 1: was um promoted. The variety isn't promoted. It's not that
Speaker 1: it's not there, it's just not promoted. So for the
Speaker 1: average person that's just going here to click their all
Speaker 1: they're seeing is that one track thing. When they still
Speaker 1: have a lot of dope artists that's doing a lot
Speaker 1: of music. But it seems like it's not part of
Speaker 1: whatever agenda to keep us, uh like stifled or to
Speaker 1: stunt the growth of the people. We're seeing a whole
Speaker 1: lot of one thing. But these artists, I know they
Speaker 1: you know, these women love the men, these men love
Speaker 1: the women. But we're being overly saturated with one thing,
Speaker 1: you know, one thing. We get back to the diversity.
Speaker 1: I've think, um, you know, artists like us that people
Speaker 1: listen to. When we find an artists that's talking something real,
Speaker 1: we need to share these artists. We need to share them,
Speaker 1: you know, on our platforms. Hey, y'all, this is who
Speaker 1: I've been listening to. I like two girls, Um, well
Speaker 1: like a lot of girls at home. He has some
Speaker 1: dope girls at home, but three d n T and
Speaker 1: Bricky for President. I don't know Bricky for President. Yes,
Speaker 1: so I share her and then my other friends share her,
Speaker 1: and she is doing really, really well because she has
Speaker 1: a solid base. But we have to start sharing the
Speaker 1: artists that we like, you know, just so that it
Speaker 1: can circulate more. Because the people that's really controlling like
Speaker 1: everything we see as a majority all pushing out a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that's making rap music. It look
Speaker 1: like it's just this one thing. It's just this sex,
Speaker 1: it's just this violence, it's just this foolishness. Um. When
Speaker 1: that's not the case. And then we have to also
Speaker 1: with the brothers and sisters that's making the music that
Speaker 1: we made about sex and about violence, we have to
Speaker 1: step back and really pay attention to everything that they're
Speaker 1: saying because some of them. They come from these environments,
Speaker 1: the ones that don't like I said, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't really respect that. Um, I don't really respect you
Speaker 1: making all these records about killing people and selling dope
Speaker 1: and using dope, and you never did and never will
Speaker 1: do none of that, you know. I don't. Yeah, talk,
Speaker 1: you know. But I don't have a problem with with them.
Speaker 1: I don't have I wouldn't have a problem with somebody
Speaker 1: from the suburbs who has a great imagination for so
Speaker 1: called gangster rapp, a reality rap or anything. My problem
Speaker 1: is acting like it's real, for real, outside of the record,
Speaker 1: and not providing instructions, information and instructions, because you can
Speaker 1: talk about having that chop in the trunk, but you
Speaker 1: need to tell these youngsters what's gonna happen if you
Speaker 1: get caught with that motherfucking child. Yeah see, And that
Speaker 1: is the difference what I'm talking about and educating us,
Speaker 1: using it, using it to educate and uplift. It's the
Speaker 1: bragging and then and then you're bragging and it becomes popular,
Speaker 1: and then the kids that are living it they take
Speaker 1: to that because they live in it because somebody's bragging.
Speaker 1: I never had a problem with the real music, the
Speaker 1: gangster music, because I'm a part of that. But it's
Speaker 1: just when you are pushing this out to some of
Speaker 1: the young people, when that's all they living and all
Speaker 1: they know, they're gonna embody it, and then you go
Speaker 1: back hat and ducked off somewhere, tucked off, don't want
Speaker 1: no parts of it, not telling them if you get
Speaker 1: caught with this chopper, you worn't more to them in prison.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it all the way real. You worn't more
Speaker 1: to them in prison. So if you're Tolden this chopper
Speaker 1: around just to say you got a chopper, just know
Speaker 1: you wort more to them in prison. Tolden the chap
Speaker 1: because you're tolding the chopper is totally different than Tolten
Speaker 1: the chopper because I'm really into something, you know. And
Speaker 1: and that's that's where the problem is for me, because
Speaker 1: we have a lot of young people that's really living that,
Speaker 1: and they're living it not because they chose to. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of people in our neighborhood that was
Speaker 1: boring into things. They didn't choose it. They came home
Speaker 1: to addicts, you know, they came home the untreated mental illness.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of kids that's growing up like that,
Speaker 1: and so when they hear somebody that's saying something that
Speaker 1: they could relate to, they kind of cling to it.
Speaker 1: That's what I did when I heard a lot of artists.
Speaker 1: For us, it was mainly soul and R and B
Speaker 1: artists because we didn't have many rap artists to look
Speaker 1: up to, because we're part of a generation that was
Speaker 1: in the beginning stages, you know, like second generation hip hop, uh,
Speaker 1: coming up right under cool, Hurt and now. So we
Speaker 1: we was listening to R and B records. I remember
Speaker 1: I used to listen to country music because it reminded
Speaker 1: me of hip hop because I row the words was
Speaker 1: even down to the violence in it. Yes, indeed like
Speaker 1: you know, but even even down to the violence in it.
Speaker 1: And we were able to pull what we could relate
Speaker 1: to based on what we heard. What about holding these
Speaker 1: damn record labels and and and Apple Music and you
Speaker 1: know these streaming platforms responsible because I'm tell you this,
Speaker 1: if the artists can't make a bunk off of it,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it. If they can't sell the records,
Speaker 1: and also the facebooks, the Instagrams, the YouTube that play
Speaker 1: the music, if they can't get that music on the
Speaker 1: stream because it costs money to make music. If they
Speaker 1: can't get it on those streaming platforms, they're not going
Speaker 1: to wrap it, They're not gonna talk about it. So
Speaker 1: the artists are the low hanging fruit. A lot of
Speaker 1: times we like to focus on the artists, and these artists,
Speaker 1: the artists, man, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers,
Speaker 1: I have yet to hear anybody bring to heal these
Speaker 1: streaming platforms, these networks, you know, these even some of
Speaker 1: these big movie studios, and I have yet to hear
Speaker 1: them talk about these these people who really got the juice,
Speaker 1: they could shut it down like this. So my thing
Speaker 1: is like, if if you're serious, you know, where where
Speaker 1: is your concern you know, for holding these other people
Speaker 1: accountable to people who got the money to bread, the
Speaker 1: ones who are really in power. See, I think they
Speaker 1: have the power to introduce it to us. But then
Speaker 1: ultimately the consumer is who clicked the downloads. The consumer
Speaker 1: is the one You're right, and I say that all
Speaker 1: the time. At the end of the day, to consumer
Speaker 1: is the one who clicked. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, certain ship you can't consume if you say
Speaker 1: something by certain kinds of people. Yeah, not so if
Speaker 1: you so, If we so, we we really really really
Speaker 1: want to go there, and we really want to hold
Speaker 1: people accountable, and you really want to like focus on
Speaker 1: the calls and you know who's responsible, who can put
Speaker 1: an end of this type of ship, then the energy
Speaker 1: should be more focused on the people who got the
Speaker 1: power to put it out. That's why when folks have
Speaker 1: a problem with certain things that an individual might say
Speaker 1: on a network or a guy that's a movie star, whatever,
Speaker 1: they go after the brand, they go after the sponsorship,
Speaker 1: the advertisers, They shut them down. I don't see that
Speaker 1: movement for shutting them down when the N word is used.
Speaker 1: I don't see that movement shut them down when when
Speaker 1: you're smoking on two key or smoking on this person
Speaker 1: or that person. Whereas that same energy like like at
Speaker 1: some point, you know, we we gotta be responsible for
Speaker 1: holding the right people accountable instead of just picking the
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. The wrappers are the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to make a buck, just like anybody else,
Speaker 1: just trying to make a buck. Not saying that it's right,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, if you give a kid out the
Speaker 1: hood a shot, and all you gotta do is talk
Speaker 1: about his experience, talk about smoking somebody. That's a wrap
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. But it won't happen if this is
Speaker 1: such a such company over here, said Apples, said, no,
Speaker 1: we don't play that. You can't get spins over here.
Speaker 1: You can't get sales over here because their motherfucker's don't
Speaker 1: like us. But but but different, that's where it comes down.
Speaker 1: But but check this out. I think it ain't even
Speaker 1: about him not like and that's because most people don't
Speaker 1: like themselves. I think it has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the money. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I feel that you don't think his money and talking
Speaker 1: about saying bad things about is reel or Jews. It
Speaker 1: probably homo sexual. You don't think it's some money, that
Speaker 1: somebody had money, if somebody had to, if somebody could
Speaker 1: get away with seeing what they really feel. You don't
Speaker 1: think it's some money and that it is some money
Speaker 1: in that. But like you have to understand that a
Speaker 1: lot of people that ask controlling this, they may say, hey, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm Jewish, You're not gonna talk about me,
Speaker 1: um gay, You're not gonna talk about it. And I'm
Speaker 1: the boss over here, so see, you pay the calls
Speaker 1: to be the boss. See, I got the right to
Speaker 1: say what I'm gonna let y'all push out, and when
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you'all push out, because I'm the boss.
Speaker 1: What we have to do. It's our responsibility, especially to
Speaker 1: the young people, since we've been so damaged, we have
Speaker 1: to break it down. And look, look, y'all, you might
Speaker 1: have really did kill such and such, and now you
Speaker 1: want to make a record. All your friends might have
Speaker 1: did it. And everybody that's from y'all hood might support
Speaker 1: this record and not a beat this catchy. So all
Speaker 1: these people are supporting the record, but we have to understand, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: we're doing more damage because ultimately they want to put
Speaker 1: us in jail. That's where the new the president is,
Speaker 1: the new slave ship. That's the slave ship, and and
Speaker 1: and and ultimately, we want to get as many of
Speaker 1: y'all as we can working on a sense of the
Speaker 1: dial is for us to keep building it, and slavery
Speaker 1: is over. But I'm in a position to tell you
Speaker 1: because I got the money, you can't talk about me.
Speaker 1: You can't talk about me because I'm Jewish. Can't talk
Speaker 1: about me because I'm gay, You can't talk about me
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Because I'm the boss. The bosses get
Speaker 1: the they get the option to make the decision. If
Speaker 1: the boss ain't a nigger, if the boss don't have parents,
Speaker 1: that's addicts. If the boss is not from the hood,
Speaker 1: they don't even relate to that. All they relate to
Speaker 1: is the dollars that is generating. So we gotta the dollar.
Speaker 1: And then the boss got the holler. The thing is
Speaker 1: this here, When the people say I ain't streaming, When
Speaker 1: the people say I ain't downloading, that's when the boss
Speaker 1: gonna tuck his tail because the motivation from the boss
Speaker 1: is the green. So when the boss see, wait, nobody's
Speaker 1: streaming this, Wait, nobody's downloading. Wait, nobody's literally coming up
Speaker 1: with their credit cards and their dollars actually purchasing things,
Speaker 1: that's when they start to get worried. Don't nothing worried
Speaker 1: them people, but being in the red that's the only
Speaker 1: they took the mom and pop stores out of the communities,
Speaker 1: and that really crippled independent labels. In my opinion, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's most definitely did if if if you got
Speaker 1: uh an artist that's normally doing you know, gold planet
Speaker 1: albums man, when like we're just now kind of getting
Speaker 1: into uh streaming and downloading. But think about this streaming.
Speaker 1: They're paying us less than an eighth of a cent
Speaker 1: to stream to hear our music. Right. But think about
Speaker 1: he said, oh, many ain't making no money like that.
Speaker 1: They're making a ton of money like that. You know
Speaker 1: why because if you got twenty million people that's subscribing
Speaker 1: to whatever Spotify, Apple Title or whatever per year and
Speaker 1: they're making twenty bucks a month, that's more money than
Speaker 1: they selling a million records on this artist. So they
Speaker 1: really fucking us. And and and think about like you said,
Speaker 1: the mom and pop stores, because we still have one
Speaker 1: left in New Orleans that opened in seventy times. I
Speaker 1: think we have one here. We have one store. We
Speaker 1: have one that that opened in seventy three. But you
Speaker 1: can remember when you would bring you c d s
Speaker 1: and you would do consignment. We were seeing that, we
Speaker 1: were seeing the five dollars. And now you say of
Speaker 1: a cent. We used to have so much control when
Speaker 1: we had independent labels, moving things the old school way,
Speaker 1: but that had to be shut down too, and every
Speaker 1: time we get our foot in the door, there are
Speaker 1: gonna be some obstacles because the plans started centuries ago,
Speaker 1: and we have to understand that we always have to
Speaker 1: go back to the initial plan. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have like we people say, well, shut the music down. Listen,
Speaker 1: a lot of these things are going on. They're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it, they're gonna make the music about it.
Speaker 1: The individuals have to say what we're gonna buy in
Speaker 1: what we're not gonna buy. It's some wrap that's full
Speaker 1: of cussing and full of violence. And I hear it,
Speaker 1: and I understand where they're coming with from, and I
Speaker 1: fool with it. It's some wrap that sounds stupid to me.
Speaker 1: I ain't folding with it. I'm not I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: fold with it. Circles all the way back around to
Speaker 1: the consumer. Yeah, the consumer. So when y'all say an
Speaker 1: artist is whack, what you're really saying is your whack
Speaker 1: because you're buying it. I mean, you're on it. It
Speaker 1: comes down to the consumer. But how does that how
Speaker 1: do how does that artist even get on the platform? Though? Well,
Speaker 1: because okay, let's say they are um, they are with
Speaker 1: a powerful label or have some powerful back in. Those
Speaker 1: promotional dollars are gonna push the artists where they're gonna
Speaker 1: be seen. But it's still comes down to when you
Speaker 1: hear it, do you want to fool with it? Consumers?
Speaker 1: Do you want to fool with it? Do you want
Speaker 1: to eat this brand of chicken or that brand of chicken?
Speaker 1: The consumer always speak on it. This type of cold
Speaker 1: drink or like people say, sold on sold what cold drink?
Speaker 1: This type of this type The consumer always make that decision. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I like, you know, I want that. I don't
Speaker 1: want that. I want that I don't want We we
Speaker 1: make that decision. We make that decision all the way
Speaker 1: down to our shoes. I want this kind of shoes. No,
Speaker 1: I want that kind of shoes. But you know what
Speaker 1: I like getting into the music industry back in the game,
Speaker 1: if you didn't have talent, let the building. Yeah, Nikki
Speaker 1: really spoke on that. I saw a clipper and that,
Speaker 1: Yeah that I'm not gonna lie. That was real and
Speaker 1: from the right d from the label. It was a
Speaker 1: dope as artist. So the thing is it still comes
Speaker 1: back to who we're liking, who we were, because it's
Speaker 1: our dollars. I tell a lot of people every day. Uh,
Speaker 1: everybody depends on the consumer, from the government to the
Speaker 1: man in the mirror, everybody. Can you know, we depend
Speaker 1: on the consumer, and and consumers go through different phases.
Speaker 1: We might be on the conscious phase, might be on
Speaker 1: the party phase, might be on the gangster phase. And
Speaker 1: we put our support a lot of times in the phase,
Speaker 1: the moment, the trend, the fad. We do that. But
Speaker 1: that's on us because if you don't want to hear
Speaker 1: such as such, don't listen to it. If if your
Speaker 1: whole family don't want head, that's a whole family that
Speaker 1: didn't decided. But if you do, that's a whole family
Speaker 1: that did. We have this choice when it comes to
Speaker 1: what we're listening to, what we're eating. We have this choice.
Speaker 1: A lot of times I don't even know who's out
Speaker 1: and who's really popping because my choice is old school.
Speaker 1: So in my house, the music is the sixties and
Speaker 1: the seventies, in the eighties. But that's my choice. Now,
Speaker 1: if I get in the car with my kids and
Speaker 1: they're playing something out, well, who's that. I might like it,
Speaker 1: So then gonna go and I'm gonna google that artists
Speaker 1: and see what's happening with them. And now I'm a
Speaker 1: new fan. But when it's something that I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't like that, got that off? Can you put
Speaker 1: on some better? Right? Because I want to hear Betty right?
Speaker 1: You know we have that control, but we like to
Speaker 1: play the blame game, which is, let's pick on these
Speaker 1: rappers because they're the ones that got all of this
Speaker 1: music out. When really and truly, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it, you start putting your babies in the
Speaker 1: call and you start playing what you want them to hear.
Speaker 1: So a lot of little babies know Stephen Wonder, they
Speaker 1: know everybody because that's who their parents is pumping. Now
Speaker 1: when they become teenagers, they're gonna pick the music they like,
Speaker 1: just like us. Look what we grew up on. But
Speaker 1: by the time rappers Delight hit the Treacherous three It,
Speaker 1: we was hooked. We wanted to hear something else, even
Speaker 1: though we were still going back to the roots that
Speaker 1: we can't came up on our soul, our guys wild blues.
Speaker 1: But you you put them babies in the car and
Speaker 1: you introduced them babies to what you love, they're gonna
Speaker 1: end up liking what they like anyway, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: always come back. And that's why we use so much
Speaker 1: great music. We sampled so much great music in our
Speaker 1: careers because of what we grew up listening to. People
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. They just let whatever playing, just playing.
Speaker 1: So the babies, I mean, if i'm too, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be smoking on whatever too. If I'm in the room
Speaker 1: and I'm we're riding in the car and babies here
Speaker 1: beats and cadence, and they pick up and they start mumbling.
Speaker 1: But that same stuff could be applied to them with
Speaker 1: different types of music. You know, we our parents didn't
Speaker 1: really totally understand hip hop when we fell in love
Speaker 1: with it, but once more of it came out, you know,
Speaker 1: like my my mom she loved Grand Master, Fact Flash
Speaker 1: and the Furious Fact, she loved them. Different music came out,
Speaker 1: people would be shocked. My mama was a hard n
Speaker 1: w A fan, or hard Ghetto Boys fan, a hard
Speaker 1: Public Enemy fan. But at the same time she listened
Speaker 1: to Tremaine Hawkins and Hawkinson singers. She listened to Haddie Labell,
Speaker 1: the group LaBelle. It was a lot of diversity, and
Speaker 1: so for me. I was always able to approach music
Speaker 1: based on my love for it, and I didn't really
Speaker 1: ridicual ridicule a lot of it. Except but like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you come from here and you are not a lot
Speaker 1: of the music. It's not even creative. It's just everybody
Speaker 1: rapping by the chopper. So let me get up out
Speaker 1: of my mam a three four hundred thousand dollar house
Speaker 1: and rapp about a chopper. Two when the first kid
Speaker 1: that's rapping about a chopper might really had to carry one,
Speaker 1: And then that's a problem too. Like okay, man, we
Speaker 1: didn't got to the point now where we really just
Speaker 1: didn't launched all our walk on ourselves and our different
Speaker 1: hoods and in our communities. Somebody gotta tell them it's
Speaker 1: cool to wrap about that. But do you know that
Speaker 1: in front of your mama loan the sidewalk and where
Speaker 1: your mama mailboxes, she on own that. And so a
Speaker 1: lot of these sidewalks that y'all getting stretched out on,
Speaker 1: that's not your turf, that's the state turf. This ain't
Speaker 1: your set, this middle of street where you're dying that
Speaker 1: I don't care for your mama own the house. Dad
Speaker 1: ain't her land where your mailbox said that ain't her land,
Speaker 1: and we're getting stretched out. It is not really our turfs.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be killing each other about the turf in
Speaker 1: our moms renting them houses. That's not your turf. It's
Speaker 1: not they're playing rent. That's the kind of stuff we
Speaker 1: have to start telling them. You know when you can
Speaker 1: still listen to anything you want. But just understand, you
Speaker 1: were more in prison than you are with a nine
Speaker 1: of five all your own business. You weren't more to
Speaker 1: them in prison. Do you want to carry your ass
Speaker 1: in to prison than gone? But you need to know
Speaker 1: this here they will take all your rights from you.
Speaker 1: So right now, if you don't listen to your mama,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to wash the dishes or make
Speaker 1: your bed when she said, you ain't got no choice
Speaker 1: in jail. Thank god, thank god that the consumers listen
Speaker 1: to me a X. We would not be sitting here
Speaker 1: with this treasure, not just a hip hop treasure, but
Speaker 1: a world treasure. I mean, we really do appreciate you,
Speaker 1: and you do brighten people days when you going too
Speaker 1: that Instagram? If you what's your Instagram? Off top the
Speaker 1: Mama Mia X, the Mama mea X. You know I'm
Speaker 1: following it and I do appreciate you when you post
Speaker 1: on mine. You know, yeah, we love you for real.
Speaker 1: You know I love you. You got that spirit man,
Speaker 1: You know that that brightens the room and you uplift
Speaker 1: people with your voice and your attitude. So we really
Speaker 1: do appreciate you everything that you brought to the game.
Speaker 1: You are to be respected and reckoned with. Oh, thank
Speaker 1: you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Ma X dope alright.
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