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Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, the first lady of note

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Speaker 1: limit Mia X, ma'am, hold up, how me are still

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Speaker 1: looking good? I'm talking about looking good good? How do

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Speaker 1: looked like that she did, she really did. My grandmother did? Okay, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: know you spoke about being the only woman I on

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Speaker 1: tour with a bunch of guys. How was that just

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Speaker 1: being around that whole No Limit family? You being the

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Speaker 1: might look at like nephews. But I gained a real

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Speaker 1: centense of family, and still to this day, like when

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Speaker 1: now we're in still to this day, those guys that

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Speaker 1: in years, but we immediately click clacked immediately. You know,

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Speaker 1: some of us are just gonna be that. Do you

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Speaker 1: still communicate with Pete? You know when I see him

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Speaker 1: on tour, But we really don't communicate the way we

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Speaker 1: the label and I was there and um there to

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Speaker 1: give him a lot of input and ideas to match

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Speaker 1: his hustle so that we could make No Limit be

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Speaker 1: what it was. But peas like California guys, been in

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Speaker 1: California a long time. I'm a New Orleans girl, and

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Speaker 1: when I left the label, we didn't communicate a lot

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Speaker 1: when I see him. You know how some people just

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Speaker 1: think gonna be your family regardless, So when I see him,

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Speaker 1: it's always family. But we don't communicate the way we

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Speaker 1: had to go in that studio. You guys were, and

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Speaker 1: y'all had to be the most prolific label in the

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Speaker 1: history of labels. I mean the way y'all was putting

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Speaker 1: those records out back to back to back to back.

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Speaker 1: It seems like every two weeks there was a new

429
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: artist dropping on the memory and everybody with stars. Everybody

430
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: was a stone, everybody, everybody was a star. So when

431
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: you go in the studio, y'all were helping each other

432
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: out with your projects, everybody jumping on everybody records and

433
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Did you did you ever feel any

434
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: type of pressure or did you ever feel like you

435
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: had anything to prove? You're gonna you're getting on these

436
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: records with all these guys. It wasn't so much that

437
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: I felt like I had something to prove, but I

438
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to make a statement for the ladies. I

439
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: wanted to make the women proud. Every time I picked

440
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: up my pen, I wanted them to know that whatever

441
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the subject matter was, however the beat was, I was

442
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna ride it and I was gonna run it. So

443
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: that's what it was for me. I wanted to give

444
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: the ladies, especially heavy set women, because you know, I

445
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: came in the game with two stomachs. You know, I'll

446
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: drink that too. But I'm just saying I came in

447
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: the game and I wasn't really like the prototype for

448
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: what what the industry was pushing out. So it was

449
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: important for me to let people know big girls look good,

450
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: smell good, we ride good, we live good, our hearts

451
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: are pure, and stop just thinking because we don't fit

452
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: a certain mold that we need to be looked over.

453
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: And then, as far as talent, as in MC, I

454
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: jumped in this game in eighty four, I wanted people

455
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: to know that I was an MC. That's more than anything,

456
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: and that's still the way I feel to this day.

457
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: You know, I want you to not just look, oh,

458
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: mea X was from the South, because they do that

459
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: to Southern artists all the time, you know, oh yeah,

460
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: she's good for the South. I know. I wanted them

461
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: to know that I was good. And if you put

462
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: me up against anybody on any coast that you think

463
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: was good, I'm gonna show you how good I am.

464
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: That was my whole thing, my whole motivation, at no

465
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: limit um jumping on each other's projects. I mean, we

466
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: did that to make sure that we could push the

467
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: records out. A lot of people had deadlines. They wanted

468
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: to make their deadlines. Me for Mama Drama, I had

469
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: to write sixteen or the twenty records in ten days

470
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: because I wanted to come out when I was supposed

471
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: to come out, but we were shooting movies and you know,

472
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: I kind of got behind track, and people was like, well,

473
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: if you want to drive, you're gonna have to hurry

474
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: up and go finish your record. I jumped on that

475
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: red eye and when finished my record, you know. Um,

476
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: so we had our own studio in Louisiana, but then

477
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: um we were in California going to a few studios. Yes,

478
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I lived in California. Um. I moved to California because

479
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: P and then was still in the Bay and that's

480
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: pretty much where the label was. So I left New

481
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Orleans and I went to California. California, you know I do.

482
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: It was the best weather on your own, the biggest,

483
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: prettiest flowers. It's like the flowers, the lemons, the oranges.

484
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: Everything just looked big. The grass looked green, was really nice,

485
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: and you could be in the hood where some real

486
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: road gangster ship is going on, but the flowers, everything

487
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: is so pretty. But I don't live in New Orleans,

488
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans living me, so I have to always I'm

489
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: back home no matter where I live. I've enjoyed many

490
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: places in California. Has one some chicken bur I mean

491
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: some chicken b I mean some seafood. Yeah, when you

492
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: were coming up rapping, did you hone your skills via

493
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: talent shows and competitions? Did you kind of like get

494
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: into it? Now? I was at every talent show um,

495
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and we were part of a group me and Manny

496
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Fresh called New York Incorporated. Uh So we got the

497
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to give dances and be the DJ crew. So

498
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of times when remember when we were young,

499
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: we used to really have teen dances and places to

500
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: go to as teenagers to enjoy the music. We will

501
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: always be one of the DJ crews. When the super

502
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: domes started opening up and allowing a dance space for teenagers,

503
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: we were one of the DJ crews. And then we

504
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: had a man named Mr. Eli. He was like the

505
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: concert promoter for raps, so he did all of the

506
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: Rapp Attack concerts. We were blessed to be young kids

507
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: opening up for all of the acts as they would drop.

508
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: So Dougie Fresh. It's like rick uh. He was opening

509
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: up for them. The first rapp attack had L. L. Coolmore,

510
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: d jay Z, jeff In, the Fresh, Prince, jek O

511
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: and Hide. We got a chance to taste the big

512
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: stage when we were young. Yes, and he rode around

513
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: on the truck. Yes, many Fresh Daddy had he could

514
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: ride around. He was like one of the first mobile DJs.

515
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: But then he was a staple in a lot of

516
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: the New Orleans ballroms. So, um, I didn't get it easy.

517
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: I had to get it out the crawfish mud. And

518
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: that's a whole another kind of mud. That's a whole

519
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: another kind of mud. And um, it was important when

520
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I was coming up. You know, it was battling, it

521
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: was writing. It was all about writing. And and I'm

522
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: glad to be a part of that school. Yeah, you

523
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: were battling. Did you ever get booed? Never? Did you

524
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: ever get boolges doing that's a regular show, like a

525
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: talent show or something like that. You never? I never

526
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: been well, no, let me tell you no, let me

527
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: tell you so bowled? Was St. Louis when we first

528
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: started this damn tour again. Man, Yes, and that's one

529
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: of my favorite places. Like as far as not like

530
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: maybe it was, but yeah, we get to see Louis St. Louis. St.

531
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Louis Is sold out. My people in St. Louis then

532
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: bought every piece of camouflage in St. Louis. First of all,

533
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the particulars on how the runner shows

534
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: go as far as the technical side, but they had

535
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: the people waiting two hours after they had been waiting

536
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: two hours us. They played the wrong record. The wrong

537
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: record so we always come out on the limits soldiers.

538
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: They played, uh, hot boys and not girls? Who you

539
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: got DJ? Right? Well, I mean yeah, he got a DJ,

540
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: but something happened where hot boys and hot girls came on.

541
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: He was enraged and I was trying to say, well,

542
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: let's just go with it, let's just go with it.

543
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: But there was a pause where we didn't go with it,

544
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: and the DJ scrambled to put the right record on,

545
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: but the people started booing. Then when we got out there,

546
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: the music cut off at one point, so they started

547
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: booing again. So that's that's how I experienced the boing.

548
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: The show went on and they got into it the

549
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: music because they loved the music. But initially they was

550
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: frustrated Yeah, that's a different guy. That's frustrating boot that

551
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't that it was boring, Like yall ship in,

552
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: y'all asses here, and we want to get right into

553
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: it and we're not getting nothing into it now. But

554
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: we all st Louis, We really do because um, everybody

555
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: else have gotten a chance to enjoy the full experience

556
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: and they didn't. So yeah, yeah they bowed. I was like,

557
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: I'll be damn yeah, but that that's we got booed.

558
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: We went to New York started coke, you know what

559
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, no, we went to New York when

560
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: we first started as ghetto boys, and we were talking

561
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking in street ship and back

562
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: you know in in in in the late eighties, New

563
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: York rappers was backpackers. They were talking about how good

564
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: they get wrapped, and we were talking about hose, We're

565
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: talking about dope, We're talking about beat nigga's asses for me, Yeah,

566
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: everybody talking about Then we got boomed. But we also

567
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: was talking about loyalty and taking care of your family

568
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: and things like that, and police brutality and corrupt you know,

569
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: corrupt politicis real ship because I'm gonna tell you. People

570
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: would come to my house and Ghetto Boys would be

571
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: blasting and they would say, like, your mama gonna say

572
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and I say, na, she cooking, that's her playing that.

573
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: That's no sellout, that's hard, that's you know, that's my mama. Yeah,

574
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: very very strong activist. But mama would be banging the

575
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: records and my friends would think it's me and think

576
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: it's so loud, like you're gonna get in trouble. You

577
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: got the whole house rocking. Oh, my mama is in

578
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: the kitchen with the boom box, and that is her

579
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: playing Ghetto Boys. So my mom understood the message and

580
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the music, even though it was distorted sometimes by cussing

581
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: and violence. I mean, those things were happening in our community.

582
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 1: And y'all know it's by eighty three. The subject matter

583
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: was there for us when we looked out the window,

584
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: when we stepped outside, when we went into the schools,

585
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: and we knew some of our friends was, you know,

586
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: needing clean like us, and then we saw him coming

587
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: to school dirty. Yeah, and you know what, and we

588
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: we just never wanted to brag about the life. Our

589
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: thing was always getting out and doing better, trying to

590
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: better situation and giving information and instructions like we do

591
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's always been about that, and I

592
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you, your mom and other people

593
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: who were able to get the messages saw saw the message,

594
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: heard the message and didn't get like uh, didn't get

595
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: blinded and getting didn't get sidetracked by the prof ay

596
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was some serious messages and and that

597
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: was my mama's whole thing with me. Um. She was

598
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: like this, don't be saying stupid stuff. Just to be

599
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: saying stupid stuff. I don't mind your cussin because my

600
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: grandmother custom you know, come from a custom household. But

601
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: she wanted me to always make it make sense, especially

602
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: to my people. And she didn't care the way I

603
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: said it. She didn't care the way I said it,

604
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: but it had to make sense for our people. And

605
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: she wanted me to always be able to express and

606
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: explain myself. You know, when when Rap was put on

607
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: trial for the things that we were saying. But the

608
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: thing about it is when we stepped outside, that's what

609
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: was going on before the shift in in music and

610
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: the way it is now, and when we started talking

611
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: about things before that shift, that stuff was still there.

612
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: People was on the car on the selling drugs. We

613
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: learned about strawberries before n w A saying something about

614
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: a strawberry. We knew people was sucking dicks for rocks

615
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: and selling all this stuff. We knew that before we

616
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: went into the studio. We saw that that's what was

617
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: happening in our community before rap. Most of us is

618
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: older than the first hip hop record that dropped, So

619
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't just a rap artist and a rap music.

620
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: That stuff was happening, and and and things wasn't so

621
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: sunny and so bright to just talk about. It wasn't

622
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: all party music. After a while you had to start saying, well,

623
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: damn everybody on rocks, and now people killing each other

624
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: behind rocks, and now turfs are being established in a

625
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: name a crack those territories. You know what I'm saying.

626
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff happened before records was even dropped.

627
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: And then you have the kids. You know, if your

628
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: parents wasn't giving you both signs of it, so when

629
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: they picked they pin up, it just sounds all negative, negative, negative,

630
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: but they was living in that. Now we got a

631
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: lot of kids. I don't like the ones that you know,

632
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: jump clean up out of beautiful house with a beautiful

633
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: situation and nobody struggling, and then make this struggle music

634
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: for the sense of just profiting. We was knee deep

635
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: in that ship. We was knee deep in it. And um,

636
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: that's what I want people to understand. As far as

637
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: the shift and like, uh that the mid and late

638
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: eighties when the whole tide turned, and now you know,

639
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: the music we have is just just a lot, a lot,

640
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: a lot of craziness. Whereas we did still have that

641
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: balance because y'all got booed in New York because they

642
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: was backpacking and y'all was running what y'all was running,

643
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: and then California started running what they was running, you know,

644
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: and we still had the diversity. Though. If you wanted

645
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: to listen to a backpacker, you could. You wanted to

646
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: listen to school, a person that was talking street music

647
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: or what they said gangster rap, you could. You want

648
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: to listen to a person that was doing all party music,

649
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: you could. Now you have to go searching on the

650
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: internet to find these artists because a lot of times

651
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: we're just getting that one thing pushed out, and by

652
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that one thing being pushed out, it gives a rap

653
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: as a whole a bad name. What do you think

654
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: about Cardi b making the stallion Nikki? These type of artists,

655
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: the women who's uh pushing running ship, pushing the the

656
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: independent running ship and also getting over on men narrative.

657
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of that, you know, like it's

658
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: not just it's not just about like no being independent

659
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: or whatever, but a lot of it is like, you know,

660
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: fuck you pay me? Like I mean, I'm saying that

661
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: it is. Look, let me tell you something because that's

662
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: the game. But I'm asking my first record, my first record.

663
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Payback is the reason why I will never come for

664
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: a lady in her lyrics. But prior to uh, fuck

665
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: you pay me, it was like fuck a bitch, don't

666
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: trust no bitch has six or seven bitches. So that's

667
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: what we were listening to. So the other side of

668
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: it is, well, all right, then if it's don't trust

669
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: no bitches, have six or seven bitches, then when you

670
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: funk with me, pay me, that's pretty much what happened.

671
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: But like, uh, but how do you how do you

672
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: how do you do you get to say fuck you

673
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: pay me and still be considered a respectable woman? Yeah,

674
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, a respectable woman is in is really

675
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: in the eyes of who who's ever about to call

676
00:44:53,840 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: your respectable or not respectable? My grandmother was h puss

677
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: it out when bread don't show us grits groceries. Um,

678
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so look and your mom. I'm just saying

679
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: there with with the with the rapping um and and

680
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: in the tone that music takes, what the funk you

681
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: pay me? It really comes from years and years are

682
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: listening to how some guys come across on the music.

683
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Because let me tell you something, pay back the guys

684
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know when bounce music was created,

685
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: it was you know, bitch stopped talking, that ship stuck

686
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: and they get thick for outfit. So when I came out,

687
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oops, oo's got some hair and your teeth.

688
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Bit you graduated from tips and now you're nicking clicks.

689
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: But that straight came from what I was hearing from

690
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: the guys. It could be you know what, it could

691
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: be comed by y'all. And and look look at look

692
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: at this. Uh, Megan is in a relationship. Kardi and

693
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Nikki are married women, so you know they love their kings.

694
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: You know they respect their relationships. But at the same time,

695
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: somebody has to be the voice when we have all

696
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: these other voices chirping in the background about bitches and

697
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: funk holes and don't trust them bitches and you know,

698
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: don't love them, duck them. When you have that kind

699
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, they have to be another voice

700
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: that have to be that balance. You know what. That's

701
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: a good point. But here's the thing, like what I'm

702
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm experiencing here, what I'm witnessing here

703
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: is a cycle. Because men will we'll say, well, the

704
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: reason why we feel this way and the reason why

705
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: we're saying letahobia hole is because we've been played by women.

706
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: We've been you know, used by women. So so everybody,

707
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: if you played again, that's why you little know that

708
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: you've been played. So so himself has been played. And

709
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, you can't you can't even learn

710
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: in order to win and appreciate winning. You gotta learn

711
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: how to lose first to appreciate winning. But anyway, man,

712
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: moving on this. No, no, no, I'm not trying to

713
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: throw y'all. Willie. I've just been on you a long

714
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: end time, bro, and I have never seen this side

715
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: of you. Man, you have really changed changed. Well I'm

716
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: supposed to change, Brad. You know it's called growing. No,

717
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: it's all good though, I'm just saying that that's crazy,

718
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: like I was saying, you know, drugs. I think go

719
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: back to what happens to our community, Like our families

720
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: really were broken up and separated, and where you had

721
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: strong women and men who are now addicts. They did

722
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: things that was out of their character all the while

723
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: they still was raising children. So that took a shift

724
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: in our mentality where we used to really really love

725
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: and depend on each other, especially in our black men

726
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: and black women. It's like so much distrust. You don't

727
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: trust each other anymore. Where is it? Let me say this,

728
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you, like where is that coming from?

729
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask so Cardi, uh Bgan, Nikki Dope,

730
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: super Dope actually like all of them. And I have

731
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: a personal love for Megan because she's age twn. You

732
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: know that that's our girl. So and yeah, a beautiful person.

733
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: But I just wanna the question is is a valid question?

734
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I do believe because I mean they are they are

735
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: the women who are who are carrying the torch right

736
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: now they're out in the front, and that's a that's

737
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: a that's a legitimate question. Uh, I do believe because

738
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: we're we're we are faced with these we are faced

739
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: with this, this this this thing where that battle to

740
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: your point, we we got this the men over here,

741
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the women over here, and and everybody's plutting fingers at

742
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: each other. And at the same time, we're still trying

743
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: to raise babies, We're still figuring out a way to

744
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: I still um attracted to you. I still want to

745
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: have sex, which you want to look, we want to

746
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: have family, want to have baby, but I hate you.

747
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: Ask at the same time, like, how do we how

748
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: do we get out of that mold that we're in

749
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: right because right now it is a lot of bickering

750
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: going back and forth, the men blaming the women, the

751
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: women are blaming the men. And I'm sitting back like, yeah,

752
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's have created the perfect storm. What's happening right here,

753
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: right now is the perfect storm. We can we can

754
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: win a lot of battles. One battle we cannot win

755
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: is we cannot win the battle of the sexiest. We

756
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: cannot we cannot win a fight against each other. Black

757
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: men and black women can. That is a losing battle.

758
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna win that fight. So you can get into

759
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: your feelings all you want, but if you really care

760
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: about your people, and you really care about your survival,

761
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: then it is incombatible on you to figure that ship

762
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: out and get out of your feelings and and and

763
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: do what's best for yourself and for your family and

764
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: for your people, because the trajectory that we're on right now,

765
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it. We can live. We can

766
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: win a lot of fights. We can we some fighting, motherfucker.

767
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: We can survive. Everything has ever been throwing our weight,

768
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna survive. Other ship they're gonna be throwing

769
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: our way. Then there's somewhere plotting right now to throw

770
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: us off again and sunk us up right, and we're

771
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: gonna survive that bullshit too. We figure it out, but

772
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: we can't survive. You know. You know what I always

773
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: think about though, I always think about the US versus US.

774
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: You know that that really happens centuries before we got here.

775
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: I always think about if I had my master's baby,

776
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm pushed this white baby out, but my husband got

777
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: to be right here. Even though my hands was tied

778
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: and so was his. We still don't like each other

779
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: because of what just happened. He couldn't help me because

780
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: I was violated, and I couldn't help him because that's

781
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: his master. So I think centuries ago we started looking

782
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: at each other differently. And I think when we started

783
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: to get on track, like after slavery and and cities

784
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: were established by us and our businesses, we were on point,

785
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: and then the city started getting bombed and then lynching

786
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: our men, lynching our women. I'm a woman, and y'all

787
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: budge in my house and take my son and my

788
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: husband can't do nothing. I'm mad with him. I'm mad

789
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 1: with him. You know, rape my daughter and you can't

790
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: do nothing. I'm mad with you. I won't do nothing. Well,

791
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hands tied, because you know, if if

792
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the lynch mob is there with all of the guns

793
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: and the torches and we don't have anything but the

794
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: things that were yielding in our home, his hands was tied.

795
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: So physically, emotionally and mentally, that division that was a

796
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: long time ago, and we are still fighting to escape

797
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: that initial division, right and like now we don't even

798
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: think about that kind of stuff. We just think about

799
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: with like rap. You know, fuck you, nigga, pay me,

800
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: fuck these holes, be with other holes. We think it's that,

801
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: but it's stuff so deep in us, and young people

802
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: don't even know. You know, I know it's not hip hop.

803
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not stupid. No, I know it's not.

804
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: It's deeper than hip hop. But what I'm saying is

805
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: just a psychologically, I don't think it's clicking with men

806
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: and women that, um, we have this trauma. We have

807
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: this trauma that's been passed on to us from generations

808
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: that we don't trust each other. We don't know if

809
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: you're really gonna look out for me. We don't really

810
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: trust each other word. I mean, you say you're gonna

811
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: bring the pampers in, but I don't think you're gonna

812
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: bring We start feeling like that immediately, and we might

813
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: not know all day. He trying to make sure he

814
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: get the pampers for the month. We we don't even know.

815
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: But you know, those walls and that anger, that suspicion.

816
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: I just feel like it has a lot to do

817
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: with that more than the stuff we think is the right. Now.

818
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, when you first meet a woman might like

819
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: this woman she might be everything esthetically one she they

820
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: talked to talk you like, but in the back of

821
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: your mind you still saying, waiting for the other shooter drop.

822
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: See was this motherfucker really gonna do? Like we come

823
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: in with each other. I don't think other racests come

824
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: in with that suspicion to see that was a plot

825
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: and part of a plan that was done to us

826
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: alone long time ago. The trip part about it mean

827
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: is that that plan, that plot is still in motion

828
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: and they're constantly doing certain things the sneaky ass canine

829
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: and things to further divide us. And it's like we

830
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: keep walking right into the trap because we got we

831
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: got the spirituality in the common sense torture out of

832
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: us a long time ago. Um, like I said, we're

833
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: dealing with trauma. But see here's the thing, Like for me,

834
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: I believe everybody's just really really just super into their

835
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: feelings and nobody's really thinking critically because for me, there

836
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 1: is nothing you can do. There is no woman made

837
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: of woman who can turn me against women, not Black

838
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: women specific they ain't a woman. It don't matter, Like

839
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: like I'm not never gonna get that that into my feelings.

840
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not like like some of these do it. It's

841
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: a dude right now listening to me, right now, he's

842
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: about to cry, you know, and you know he got

843
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: home in him. You know, like he really got home

844
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: in him. Like he very emotionally type. Emotional type dude.

845
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: You know he to do that say I love my mom,

846
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I love my kids, I love my daughter, but I

847
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: hate women. This ship don't even make sense to me,

848
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: Like how can you as a man hate that which

849
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: you come from. How can you hate women and have

850
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: a daughter or mother say you love them, but you

851
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: hate black women? How can you, as a black woman

852
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: say I hate black men, but you love your black son.

853
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: You ain't even qualified to raise him because you hate

854
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: what that which he is to become. You're not qualified

855
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: to raising. You can't give something that you ain't got.

856
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: The all these people that's online, that's that that's crying

857
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: and and complaining all the damn time about black people,

858
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about black people. Self hate, bro that

859
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: self hate, self hate. Get out your feelings. And if

860
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: you cannot get out your feelings, get out of the way,

861
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: take your ass somewhere on another planet and go set

862
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: up shot and all your motherfucker's get out the way

863
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: because we got some we got some black people out here.

864
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: There's still a little of that blackness, you know. Like

865
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: I am like this ship right here. You see this

866
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: motherfucker's scan This is cool ship, right, this ship right here, Man,

867
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: this ship is cold letting right. What the fun I'm

868
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna be? Man, come on, has a lot to do

869
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: with programs. Look at that goddamn brounche that should look good.

870
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: But but the programming and they can't get me with that,

871
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They can't get me with that ship. Like,

872
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: I just feel like if you hate yourself, gag because

873
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: there ain't nothing you can give to the world. Ain's

874
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: nothing you can do. You can't do ship for nobody

875
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: unless you do something for yourself first. So you may

876
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: thank you being smart and you slick, and you above

877
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: everybody else, you're more intelligent than others, because you have

878
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that you don't like nobody that

879
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: looks like you. You don't like them because they you know.

880
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: You may thank you smart, but you really wanted the

881
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: dumbest motherfucker's in the world, because self hate is the

882
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: worst hate. But see I think our people are the

883
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: only ones that programming and conditioning is. Uh, it's like

884
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: centered on because we have a lot of friends were

885
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: in hip hop and now everybody loves hip hop and everybody,

886
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: all the folks are not conditioned to feel like they

887
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: women as bitch as a whole and they men or

888
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: nobody's embold arms, you know, dead beats. Those words are

889
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: not even used in in in you know, with other people.

890
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: It's a direct target, and unfortunately we do fall for

891
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: it because it's programmed constantly, constantly to make you feel

892
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: like if your mama not married, then she must have

893
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: been a whole, you know, or if your daddy didn't

894
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: pay child support, he just dropped something off, he's a

895
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: dead beat. You know, we've been targeted, and then once

896
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: we were targeted, our people are constantly programmed. So you'll

897
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: have a young lady who don't have kids yet get

898
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: all her education, move with the system. She may turn

899
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: her nose down at a brother that's not educated and

900
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: automatically assumed that he's a bum. Because these this is

901
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: how we're being conditioned. They don't do that to nobody else.

902
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: Now what my mom raised me to believe that because

903
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: so much of this was being done to us that

904
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: let me know how great we were. You gotta keep

905
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: tugging these people hate I miss your mom. You gotta

906
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: keep talking in these people. You gotta keep trying to

907
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: uh infest them with drugs, diseases in the wrong programming.

908
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: You know, Like, we were the only people in the

909
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: world that was rewired in every sense of the way,

910
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: how we think, how we eat, how we love, how

911
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: we commune. We're the only people in the world that

912
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: that was done too. And I want to go on

913
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: record right now until some of you, oh dirty motherfucker's

914
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: out there that's listening to this show right now that

915
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: I like to say, ship like with cent of the

916
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: population is responsible for eight of the murders they responsible

917
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: locked up in all this stupid ship. Me tell y'all something.

918
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Let me explain something to your dumb ass. No group

919
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: of people in the history of civilization has ever been

920
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: able to reach their full potential when they've been targeted

921
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: by their own government for failure. The government makes the laws,

922
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: the government enforces the laws. I tripled that any motherfucking

923
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: race out there on this planet to try that ship

924
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: in any country where you're being targeted by your own government.

925
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: Your ass wouldn't come nowhere close to what we've been

926
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: able to accomplish with all of these attacks on us,

927
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: year after year, decade after decade, century after century. You

928
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. You're fucking jump off fucking building. You

929
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. We're on the constant attack. So it's

930
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: not just it was the law. It's not killing. You

931
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: can have him, you can buy him, you can sell him,

932
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: you can rape his grandma, you can use his babies

933
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: for alligator bait. The United States federal government said that

934
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: was cool. Go ahead, We're not mad at you. And

935
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: then you know, like you rise up from the ashes,

936
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: and what do they do. They try to try to

937
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: get out. They recognize our greatness because what they do,

938
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: they'll they'll try to go and find our best, get

939
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: our greatest, and then try to use them against us.

940
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: Get them to come over here and work for them. Hey,

941
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: they don't don't go over there, don't don't work them,

942
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: don't help them either. They'll try to build somebody just

943
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to build one of bears like us.

944
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: Happens all the time. Man, I love this, I love this.

945
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: Singer let's get the great white hope to be you know,

946
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: great whatever, Like it's cold blooded. Man, I see this

947
01:02:49,840 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: ship all the time. I just think when when when

948
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: men and women know, you know that that the family

949
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: was definitely targeted. Um and and we were programmed to

950
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: look at us in a negative light. We were programmed

951
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: to look at us in a negative light. So even

952
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: when you're trying, there's all these little things that make

953
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: those glitches. Like I said, it starts that division. Trying

954
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: bro think about what she's saying. Like I think about

955
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: even when you're like the average person get up and

956
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: try to go out and be productive in the world, right,

957
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 1: trying to make something out of themselves. And in most

958
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: cases the average person that's the average person is there's

959
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: no interference being read the average black person get up,

960
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: go out and try to make some especially black men.

961
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: And what do you have police fucking with you? I right,

962
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: they rideing on. You're trying to funk what you go

963
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: ohuat and do, try to get your job or whatever whatever.

964
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: They won't hire you. So and this is the thing,

965
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: like for us, we need to get used to being entrepreneurs.

966
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: Fuck trying to go and get it. Education to work

967
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: for them, get that ship, learned that ship so you

968
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: can work for yourself, and and and so that you

969
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: can and and and so that you can give your

970
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: your children can come work for you instead of trying

971
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: to go out and work for them. You did what

972
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we gotta get used to that because a

973
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: they got the ship stacked up against us, and that's

974
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be. It's not gonna change. And

975
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: exactly stole all this ship and then created well by

976
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: selling what they stole. Uh, I want to I want

977
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: to ask you a question. So the Willie Lynch theory,

978
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: the letter you read that Willie how it was really

979
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: it was Willie Lynch really a person or is somebody

980
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: just bring the ship out of the thing there what

981
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: they're saying, that's it. That was actual name. That was

982
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: his name, and that and that was his letter how

983
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: to make a slave and that ship at that instruction

984
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: manual that he installed back in the seventeen hundreds still

985
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: applies to right now. You know what I mean? You

986
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: you you turned the man against the woman, the child

987
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: against the parents, you know, the bright guy against the

988
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: dark skin. You know, like it's still in effect, right

989
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: now look at the wickedness man, Look what what what

990
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: type of country? What type of government? One? Look what

991
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: what type of government would would would would purposely make

992
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: sure that the men of a specific group could not

993
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: be imployed. And then go to his woman and say,

994
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: as long as he will give you some money, but

995
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: you can't have him in the house at all. You

996
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: gotta kick him out of that you can't work, and

997
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: you can, you can work. So what was that about? See,

998
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: and people think you can just turn that ship off.

999
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: This is conditioning, This is generations, and this ship has

1000
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: passed down just like any other type of conditioning can

1001
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: be passed down. It can be good, bad, or and different,

1002
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: but it's passed down. So it just trist me out.

1003
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: How you have people that try to ignore these type

1004
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: of facts, act like this ship don't matter your government.

1005
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: Your government goes in and tell a woman, look, kick

1006
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: him out of the house and we'll give you some

1007
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: money to take care of you and the kids. But

1008
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: you can't work. And he we've been not catch him

1009
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: over here. So and guess what he gotta be. Not

1010
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: only does he have to be out of the house,

1011
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: we bet not catch him when we roll up he'd

1012
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: better not be here. So now what's in the guy's head?

1013
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: You know, I can't miss that up for her and kids.

1014
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: They won't give me a job. I can't mess that

1015
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: up for him. And I'm scared to go over there

1016
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: because they might show up. Yeah, the movie Claudine, you

1017
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: remember that how to Toasta? Howd the TV the welfare

1018
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: people came? I remember. I remember that movie vaguely, but

1019
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: I remember the old school movie. I think seventies right,

1020
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: But but it was the welfare They thought the welfare

1021
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: lady was coming, and it was a woman and a

1022
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: man children who loved each other. Welfare people were coming

1023
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: um and and so the things that they were able

1024
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: to saving buy like a TV and toaster, ironing board,

1025
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: things that you wasn't supposed to have living under the assistance,

1026
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: because I was supposed to have this money. So when

1027
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: the welfare lady came, they were running scrambling, trying to

1028
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: hide what I guess that the system would consider as

1029
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: as a luxury. But it was an ironing board TV.

1030
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: You know. That stuck out with with me in that movie.

1031
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, but it always just like, wow,

1032
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: they have to hide their TV. If the high, they toasted,

1033
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But I think now we put so

1034
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: much focus on what you know what, it's the music,

1035
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: you know what. Else it's because they don't want to uh,

1036
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: they don't want to pull their pants up. You know.

1037
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: We we we put a lot of blame on those

1038
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: things without stepping back and saying, hey, y'all, we've been

1039
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: living with some trauma for centuries, and we birth babies

1040
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: and we birthed them into the trauma. You know, we

1041
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: birthed them into the trauma. And um, I think with

1042
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: a lot of artists with our music, we don't hate

1043
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: each other at all. And it's almost like what we

1044
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: call Jones and ribbon on these wreck is that we've

1045
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: done in hip hop so long. But one of the

1046
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: problems I have is a lot of other artists with

1047
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: different topics are not being pushed in the front. When

1048
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: we first started doing it, we saw a lot of

1049
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: artists being pushed to the front, a lot of talented artists,

1050
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of diversity. We don't see the diversity as much.

1051
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: Like I said, you have to go searching, you know,

1052
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: for this artist for lyrics and you know this artist

1053
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: if you want to feel a party vibe, we have

1054
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: to go searching for that when when there was public Enemy,

1055
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: when there was ghetto boys, you know, and there was

1056
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: Young MC. Also, we don't see hip hop like that anymore,

1057
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: where there was a variety of whatever you liked as

1058
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: far as you know, your music or your lyrical content.

1059
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: Now the stuff that's really being pushed out is a

1060
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that seems like it's just fun

1061
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: niggas and bitches and kill niggas and kill bitches. We

1062
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: used to have a lot of variety. It was it

1063
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: was um promoted. The variety isn't promoted. It's not that

1064
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: it's not there, it's just not promoted. So for the

1065
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: average person that's just going here to click their all

1066
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: they're seeing is that one track thing. When they still

1067
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of dope artists that's doing a lot

1068
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: of music. But it seems like it's not part of

1069
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: whatever agenda to keep us, uh like stifled or to

1070
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: stunt the growth of the people. We're seeing a whole

1071
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of one thing. But these artists, I know they

1072
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, these women love the men, these men love

1073
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: the women. But we're being overly saturated with one thing,

1074
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, one thing. We get back to the diversity.

1075
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: I've think, um, you know, artists like us that people

1076
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: listen to. When we find an artists that's talking something real,

1077
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: we need to share these artists. We need to share them,

1078
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, on our platforms. Hey, y'all, this is who

1079
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: I've been listening to. I like two girls, Um, well

1080
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of girls at home. He has some

1081
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: dope girls at home, but three d n T and

1082
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: Bricky for President. I don't know Bricky for President. Yes,

1083
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: so I share her and then my other friends share her,

1084
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: and she is doing really, really well because she has

1085
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: a solid base. But we have to start sharing the

1086
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: artists that we like, you know, just so that it

1087
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: can circulate more. Because the people that's really controlling like

1088
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: everything we see as a majority all pushing out a

1089
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that's making rap music. It look

1090
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: like it's just this one thing. It's just this sex,

1091
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: it's just this violence, it's just this foolishness. Um. When

1092
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: that's not the case. And then we have to also

1093
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: with the brothers and sisters that's making the music that

1094
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: we made about sex and about violence, we have to

1095
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: step back and really pay attention to everything that they're

1096
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,520
Speaker 1: saying because some of them. They come from these environments,

1097
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: the ones that don't like I said, I don't. I

1098
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: don't really respect that. Um, I don't really respect you

1099
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: making all these records about killing people and selling dope

1100
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: and using dope, and you never did and never will

1101
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: do none of that, you know. I don't. Yeah, talk,

1102
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: you know. But I don't have a problem with with them.

1103
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't have I wouldn't have a problem with somebody

1104
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: from the suburbs who has a great imagination for so

1105
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: called gangster rapp, a reality rap or anything. My problem

1106
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: is acting like it's real, for real, outside of the record,

1107
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: and not providing instructions, information and instructions, because you can

1108
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: talk about having that chop in the trunk, but you

1109
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: need to tell these youngsters what's gonna happen if you

1110
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: get caught with that motherfucking child. Yeah see, And that

1111
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: is the difference what I'm talking about and educating us,

1112
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: using it, using it to educate and uplift. It's the

1113
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 1: bragging and then and then you're bragging and it becomes popular,

1114
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: and then the kids that are living it they take

1115
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: to that because they live in it because somebody's bragging.

1116
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: I never had a problem with the real music, the

1117
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: gangster music, because I'm a part of that. But it's

1118
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: just when you are pushing this out to some of

1119
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: the young people, when that's all they living and all

1120
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: they know, they're gonna embody it, and then you go

1121
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: back hat and ducked off somewhere, tucked off, don't want

1122
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: no parts of it, not telling them if you get

1123
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: caught with this chopper, you worn't more to them in prison.

1124
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: Let's keep it all the way real. You worn't more

1125
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: to them in prison. So if you're Tolden this chopper

1126
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: around just to say you got a chopper, just know

1127
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: you wort more to them in prison. Tolden the chap

1128
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: because you're tolding the chopper is totally different than Tolten

1129
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: the chopper because I'm really into something, you know. And

1130
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's where the problem is for me, because

1131
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: we have a lot of young people that's really living that,

1132
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: and they're living it not because they chose to. We

1133
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of people in our neighborhood that was

1134
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: boring into things. They didn't choose it. They came home

1135
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,480
Speaker 1: to addicts, you know, they came home the untreated mental illness.

1136
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: We have a lot of kids that's growing up like that,

1137
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: and so when they hear somebody that's saying something that

1138
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: they could relate to, they kind of cling to it.

1139
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: That's what I did when I heard a lot of artists.

1140
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: For us, it was mainly soul and R and B

1141
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: artists because we didn't have many rap artists to look

1142
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: up to, because we're part of a generation that was

1143
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: in the beginning stages, you know, like second generation hip hop, uh,

1144
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: coming up right under cool, Hurt and now. So we

1145
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: we was listening to R and B records. I remember

1146
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: I used to listen to country music because it reminded

1147
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: me of hip hop because I row the words was

1148
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: even down to the violence in it. Yes, indeed like

1149
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, but even even down to the violence in it.

1150
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: And we were able to pull what we could relate

1151
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: to based on what we heard. What about holding these

1152
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: damn record labels and and and Apple Music and you

1153
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: know these streaming platforms responsible because I'm tell you this,

1154
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: if the artists can't make a bunk off of it,

1155
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it. If they can't sell the records,

1156
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: and also the facebooks, the Instagrams, the YouTube that play

1157
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: the music, if they can't get that music on the

1158
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: stream because it costs money to make music. If they

1159
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: can't get it on those streaming platforms, they're not going

1160
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: to wrap it, They're not gonna talk about it. So

1161
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: the artists are the low hanging fruit. A lot of

1162
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: times we like to focus on the artists, and these artists,

1163
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: the artists, man, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers,

1164
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: I have yet to hear anybody bring to heal these

1165
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: streaming platforms, these networks, you know, these even some of

1166
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: these big movie studios, and I have yet to hear

1167
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: them talk about these these people who really got the juice,

1168
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: they could shut it down like this. So my thing

1169
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: is like, if if you're serious, you know, where where

1170
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: is your concern you know, for holding these other people

1171
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 1: accountable to people who got the money to bread, the

1172
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: ones who are really in power. See, I think they

1173
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: have the power to introduce it to us. But then

1174
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: ultimately the consumer is who clicked the downloads. The consumer

1175
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: is the one You're right, and I say that all

1176
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: the time. At the end of the day, to consumer

1177
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: is the one who clicked. But at the end of

1178
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: the day, certain ship you can't consume if you say

1179
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: something by certain kinds of people. Yeah, not so if

1180
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: you so, If we so, we we really really really

1181
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: want to go there, and we really want to hold

1182
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: people accountable, and you really want to like focus on

1183
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: the calls and you know who's responsible, who can put

1184
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: an end of this type of ship, then the energy

1185
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: should be more focused on the people who got the

1186
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: power to put it out. That's why when folks have

1187
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: a problem with certain things that an individual might say

1188
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: on a network or a guy that's a movie star, whatever,

1189
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: they go after the brand, they go after the sponsorship,

1190
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: the advertisers, They shut them down. I don't see that

1191
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: movement for shutting them down when the N word is used.

1192
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't see that movement shut them down when when

1193
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: you're smoking on two key or smoking on this person

1194
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: or that person. Whereas that same energy like like at

1195
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: some point, you know, we we gotta be responsible for

1196
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 1: holding the right people accountable instead of just picking the

1197
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. The wrappers are the low hanging fruit.

1198
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: They're just trying to make a buck, just like anybody else,

1199
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: just trying to make a buck. Not saying that it's right,

1200
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, if you give a kid out the

1201
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: hood a shot, and all you gotta do is talk

1202
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: about his experience, talk about smoking somebody. That's a wrap

1203
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. But it won't happen if this is

1204
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: such a such company over here, said Apples, said, no,

1205
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: we don't play that. You can't get spins over here.

1206
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: You can't get sales over here because their motherfucker's don't

1207
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: like us. But but but different, that's where it comes down.

1208
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: But but check this out. I think it ain't even

1209
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: about him not like and that's because most people don't

1210
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: like themselves. I think it has a lot to do

1211
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: with the money. You know, at the end of the day,

1212
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: I feel that you don't think his money and talking

1213
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: about saying bad things about is reel or Jews. It

1214
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: probably homo sexual. You don't think it's some money, that

1215
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: somebody had money, if somebody had to, if somebody could

1216
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: get away with seeing what they really feel. You don't

1217
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: think it's some money and that it is some money

1218
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: in that. But like you have to understand that a

1219
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: lot of people that ask controlling this, they may say, hey, no,

1220
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm Jewish, You're not gonna talk about me,

1221
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: um gay, You're not gonna talk about it. And I'm

1222
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: the boss over here, so see, you pay the calls

1223
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: to be the boss. See, I got the right to

1224
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: say what I'm gonna let y'all push out, and when

1225
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you'all push out, because I'm the boss.

1226
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: What we have to do. It's our responsibility, especially to

1227
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: the young people, since we've been so damaged, we have

1228
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: to break it down. And look, look, y'all, you might

1229
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: have really did kill such and such, and now you

1230
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: want to make a record. All your friends might have

1231
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: did it. And everybody that's from y'all hood might support

1232
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: this record and not a beat this catchy. So all

1233
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: these people are supporting the record, but we have to understand, hey, y'all,

1234
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: we're doing more damage because ultimately they want to put

1235
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: us in jail. That's where the new the president is,

1236
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: the new slave ship. That's the slave ship, and and

1237
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: and and ultimately, we want to get as many of

1238
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: y'all as we can working on a sense of the

1239
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: dial is for us to keep building it, and slavery

1240
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: is over. But I'm in a position to tell you

1241
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: because I got the money, you can't talk about me.

1242
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: You can't talk about me because I'm Jewish. Can't talk

1243
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: about me because I'm gay, You can't talk about me

1244
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Because I'm the boss. The bosses get

1245
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: the they get the option to make the decision. If

1246
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: the boss ain't a nigger, if the boss don't have parents,

1247
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: that's addicts. If the boss is not from the hood,

1248
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: they don't even relate to that. All they relate to

1249
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: is the dollars that is generating. So we gotta the dollar.

1250
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: And then the boss got the holler. The thing is

1251
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: this here, When the people say I ain't streaming, When

1252
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: the people say I ain't downloading, that's when the boss

1253
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna tuck his tail because the motivation from the boss

1254
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: is the green. So when the boss see, wait, nobody's

1255
01:21:54,600 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: streaming this, Wait, nobody's downloading. Wait, nobody's literally coming up

1256
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: with their credit cards and their dollars actually purchasing things,

1257
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: that's when they start to get worried. Don't nothing worried

1258
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: them people, but being in the red that's the only

1259
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:18,480
Speaker 1: they took the mom and pop stores out of the communities,

1260
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: and that really crippled independent labels. In my opinion, you know,

1261
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: it's it's most definitely did if if if you got

1262
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: uh an artist that's normally doing you know, gold planet

1263
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: albums man, when like we're just now kind of getting

1264
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: into uh streaming and downloading. But think about this streaming.

1265
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: They're paying us less than an eighth of a cent

1266
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: to stream to hear our music. Right. But think about

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Speaker 1: he said, oh, many ain't making no money like that.

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Speaker 1: They're making a ton of money like that. You know

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Speaker 1: why because if you got twenty million people that's subscribing

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Speaker 1: to whatever Spotify, Apple Title or whatever per year and

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01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: they're making twenty bucks a month, that's more money than

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01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: they selling a million records on this artist. So they

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Speaker 1: really fucking us. And and and think about like you said,

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Speaker 1: the mom and pop stores, because we still have one

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Speaker 1: left in New Orleans that opened in seventy times. I

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Speaker 1: think we have one here. We have one store. We

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: have one that that opened in seventy three. But you

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01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: can remember when you would bring you c d s

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Speaker 1: and you would do consignment. We were seeing that, we

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: were seeing the five dollars. And now you say of

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Speaker 1: a cent. We used to have so much control when

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Speaker 1: we had independent labels, moving things the old school way,

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Speaker 1: but that had to be shut down too, and every

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Speaker 1: time we get our foot in the door, there are

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01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: gonna be some obstacles because the plans started centuries ago,

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Speaker 1: and we have to understand that we always have to

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Speaker 1: go back to the initial plan. But you know, I

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: don't have like we people say, well, shut the music down. Listen,

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Speaker 1: a lot of these things are going on. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about it, they're gonna make the music about it.

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Speaker 1: The individuals have to say what we're gonna buy in

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Speaker 1: what we're not gonna buy. It's some wrap that's full

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Speaker 1: of cussing and full of violence. And I hear it,

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Speaker 1: and I understand where they're coming with from, and I

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01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: fool with it. It's some wrap that sounds stupid to me.

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Speaker 1: I ain't folding with it. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: fold with it. Circles all the way back around to

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Speaker 1: the consumer. Yeah, the consumer. So when y'all say an

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Speaker 1: artist is whack, what you're really saying is your whack

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Speaker 1: because you're buying it. I mean, you're on it. It

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01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: comes down to the consumer. But how does that how

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Speaker 1: do how does that artist even get on the platform? Though? Well,

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Speaker 1: because okay, let's say they are um, they are with

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Speaker 1: a powerful label or have some powerful back in. Those

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01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: promotional dollars are gonna push the artists where they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be seen. But it's still comes down to when you

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01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,520
Speaker 1: hear it, do you want to fool with it? Consumers?

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01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to fool with it? Do you want

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01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: to eat this brand of chicken or that brand of chicken?

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01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: The consumer always speak on it. This type of cold

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Speaker 1: drink or like people say, sold on sold what cold drink?

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Speaker 1: This type of this type The consumer always make that decision. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I like, you know, I want that. I don't

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Speaker 1: want that. I want that I don't want We we

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Speaker 1: make that decision. We make that decision all the way

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Speaker 1: down to our shoes. I want this kind of shoes. No,

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Speaker 1: I want that kind of shoes. But you know what

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Speaker 1: I like getting into the music industry back in the game,

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Speaker 1: if you didn't have talent, let the building. Yeah, Nikki

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Speaker 1: really spoke on that. I saw a clipper and that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that I'm not gonna lie. That was real and

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: from the right d from the label. It was a

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01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: dope as artist. So the thing is it still comes

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Speaker 1: back to who we're liking, who we were, because it's

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Speaker 1: our dollars. I tell a lot of people every day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: everybody depends on the consumer, from the government to the

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Speaker 1: man in the mirror, everybody. Can you know, we depend

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Speaker 1: on the consumer, and and consumers go through different phases.

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Speaker 1: We might be on the conscious phase, might be on

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Speaker 1: the party phase, might be on the gangster phase. And

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Speaker 1: we put our support a lot of times in the phase,

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the moment, the trend, the fad. We do that. But

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Speaker 1: that's on us because if you don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: such as such, don't listen to it. If if your

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Speaker 1: whole family don't want head, that's a whole family that

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Speaker 1: didn't decided. But if you do, that's a whole family

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Speaker 1: that did. We have this choice when it comes to

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Speaker 1: what we're listening to, what we're eating. We have this choice.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I don't even know who's out

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Speaker 1: and who's really popping because my choice is old school.

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: So in my house, the music is the sixties and

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Speaker 1: the seventies, in the eighties. But that's my choice. Now,

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: if I get in the car with my kids and

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: they're playing something out, well, who's that. I might like it,

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01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 1: So then gonna go and I'm gonna google that artists

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Speaker 1: and see what's happening with them. And now I'm a

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01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: new fan. But when it's something that I don't like,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that, got that off? Can you put

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01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: on some better? Right? Because I want to hear Betty right?

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01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: You know we have that control, but we like to

1351
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: play the blame game, which is, let's pick on these

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01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: rappers because they're the ones that got all of this

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01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: music out. When really and truly, if you don't want

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01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to hear it, you start putting your babies in the

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Speaker 1: call and you start playing what you want them to hear.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of little babies know Stephen Wonder, they

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01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: know everybody because that's who their parents is pumping. Now

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01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: when they become teenagers, they're gonna pick the music they like,

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Speaker 1: just like us. Look what we grew up on. But

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Speaker 1: by the time rappers Delight hit the Treacherous three It,

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01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: we was hooked. We wanted to hear something else, even

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01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: though we were still going back to the roots that

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Speaker 1: we can't came up on our soul, our guys wild blues.

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Speaker 1: But you you put them babies in the car and

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01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 1: you introduced them babies to what you love, they're gonna

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: end up liking what they like anyway, but they're gonna

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Speaker 1: always come back. And that's why we use so much

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01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: great music. We sampled so much great music in our

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01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: careers because of what we grew up listening to. People

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Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. They just let whatever playing, just playing.

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Speaker 1: So the babies, I mean, if i'm too, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be smoking on whatever too. If I'm in the room

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Speaker 1: and I'm we're riding in the car and babies here

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01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: beats and cadence, and they pick up and they start mumbling.

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Speaker 1: But that same stuff could be applied to them with

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Speaker 1: different types of music. You know, we our parents didn't

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01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: really totally understand hip hop when we fell in love

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Speaker 1: with it, but once more of it came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: like my my mom she loved Grand Master, Fact Flash

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Speaker 1: and the Furious Fact, she loved them. Different music came out,

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Speaker 1: people would be shocked. My mama was a hard n

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Speaker 1: w A fan, or hard Ghetto Boys fan, a hard

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Speaker 1: Public Enemy fan. But at the same time she listened

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Speaker 1: to Tremaine Hawkins and Hawkinson singers. She listened to Haddie Labell,

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Speaker 1: the group LaBelle. It was a lot of diversity, and

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Speaker 1: so for me. I was always able to approach music

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Speaker 1: based on my love for it, and I didn't really

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01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: ridicual ridicule a lot of it. Except but like I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you come from here and you are not a lot

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01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: of the music. It's not even creative. It's just everybody

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01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: rapping by the chopper. So let me get up out

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Speaker 1: of my mam a three four hundred thousand dollar house

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Speaker 1: and rapp about a chopper. Two when the first kid

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01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: that's rapping about a chopper might really had to carry one,

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Speaker 1: And then that's a problem too. Like okay, man, we

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Speaker 1: didn't got to the point now where we really just

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01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't launched all our walk on ourselves and our different

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01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: hoods and in our communities. Somebody gotta tell them it's

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Speaker 1: cool to wrap about that. But do you know that

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01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: in front of your mama loan the sidewalk and where

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01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: your mama mailboxes, she on own that. And so a

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01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: lot of these sidewalks that y'all getting stretched out on,

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01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: that's not your turf, that's the state turf. This ain't

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01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: your set, this middle of street where you're dying that

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01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: I don't care for your mama own the house. Dad

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01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: ain't her land where your mailbox said that ain't her land,

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Speaker 1: and we're getting stretched out. It is not really our turfs.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be killing each other about the turf in

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: our moms renting them houses. That's not your turf. It's

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01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: not they're playing rent. That's the kind of stuff we

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01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: have to start telling them. You know when you can

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01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: still listen to anything you want. But just understand, you

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01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: were more in prison than you are with a nine

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01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: of five all your own business. You weren't more to

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01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: them in prison. Do you want to carry your ass

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: in to prison than gone? But you need to know

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01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: this here they will take all your rights from you.

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01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: So right now, if you don't listen to your mama,

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01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: if you don't want to wash the dishes or make

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01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 1: your bed when she said, you ain't got no choice

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Speaker 1: in jail. Thank god, thank god that the consumers listen

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Speaker 1: to me a X. We would not be sitting here

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Speaker 1: with this treasure, not just a hip hop treasure, but

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01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: a world treasure. I mean, we really do appreciate you,

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01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: and you do brighten people days when you going too

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Speaker 1: that Instagram? If you what's your Instagram? Off top the

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Speaker 1: Mama Mia X, the Mama mea X. You know I'm

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01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 1: following it and I do appreciate you when you post

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Speaker 1: on mine. You know, yeah, we love you for real.

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01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: You know I love you. You got that spirit man,

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01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: You know that that brightens the room and you uplift

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01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: people with your voice and your attitude. So we really

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01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: do appreciate you everything that you brought to the game.

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Speaker 1: You are to be respected and reckoned with. Oh, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Ma X dope alright.

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Speaker 1: This episode was produced by a King and brought to

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