1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Let me just start with Tulcy Gabbert, because you served 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: as a CI director for four years. Would having her 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: in charge or in the role of Director of National 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Intelligence mean for the intelligence apparatus of. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: The US government. 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: She has been an apologist for Putin and Michele Massade, 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 4: so many of her substant comments as well as previous 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: actions have called into question whether or not she has 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 4: a good understanding of global politics in the US role there. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 4: But also she doesn't have any experience in intelligence. 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: She has never served in the intelligence community. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: And the Director of National Intelligence is somebody who sits 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: on top of the eighteen. 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 5: Departments and agencies and needs to orchestrate these agencies so 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 5: that they collaborate, so that they coordinate, so that they're 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 5: able to pursue the nationalist crety priorities in an effective. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 6: There's irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 6: national security team direct. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 7: Democrats are in real trouble, real trouble. And CNN was 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 7: reading the polling data and it's bad. So CNN's Jake 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 7: Tapper asked Pennsylvania Democrat Madeline Dean about the Democrat Party's 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 7: poor polling, and this is what he got. 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: It feels like every few weeks, a new polling organization 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 6: comes out with a pole saying Democrats are at the 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 6: lowest level they've ever been in the latest was Wall 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 6: Street Journal Democratic Approval Rating state of record role sixty 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 6: three voters having an unfavorable view of your party? What 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 6: does your party need to do to climb out of that? 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: I have to speak to two issues. Yeah. 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 8: What I regret around the Epstein files is nobody talks 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 8: about the victims. We need truth, transparency, and justice. Every 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 8: time we talk about this, these now adult women, they 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 8: were children. Let's remember this. Many of them were children 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 8: who were traffic. 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 9: That's the whole. 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 6: There needs to be justice for these ones, Justice for 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 6: the women. 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 8: They are just re victimized every single time release the files. 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 8: It isn't just Maxwell and Epstein. Who knows what happened 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 8: here when you traffic hundreds of girls and women On 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 8: the polling I haven't seen polling that shows the president 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 8: at ninety percent of anything. Some small slice of Republicans, 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 8: even his base, is getting very upset with him over 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 8: Epstein and the conspiracies and the failure to be transparent. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 8: What do I make of that? Democratic the pole. Yes, 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 8: we're in the dog house yet again. What I see 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 8: and what I hear from my constituents, whether I'm answering 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 8: the phone in my office or I'm out of the supermarket, 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 8: everybody is anxious, upset, worried. They're worried about Gaza. They're 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 8: worried about war crimes in Ukraine. They are worried about tariffs. 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 8: They can't plan because businesses can't plan. They're also now 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 8: worried about things they weren't worried about. Medicaid. Tens of 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 8: thousands of my constituents are at risk of losing Medicaid support, 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 8: whether it's for substance abuse or for their disabled child. 57 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 8: So they're worrying about things they didn't have to worry 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 8: about before, and they see a president not solving the 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 8: big issues that are some of them very man made, 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 8: like Alsa. 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 7: She's very concerned that the list be released, but she 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 7: never once called on Joe Biden. 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: To release it for four years. 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 7: Second, she says, when she's at the grocery store, this 65 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 7: is what people come up and tell her. I will 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 7: guarantee you she's not been to the grocery store in 67 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 7: five years. 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: I will guarantee you that. 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 7: This is what consultants are paid to tell the Democrats. Hey, guys, 70 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 7: the polls show we're out of touch. We're talking about 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 7: creepy stuff like wanting to cut off little boys wieners 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 7: and wanting to rip out girls reproductive organs, cut a 73 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 7: chunk of their leg and put a piece of sausage 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 7: hanging between their legs. And I'm sorry to be crude, 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 7: but that's what they do. That's what the mutilation looks like. 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 7: While they also perform a double mastectomy on these girls, 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 7: and they give them a lot of hormones. So, well, 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 7: you can't perform sex now, but at least you'll have 79 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 7: a little facial hair. Okay, great, maybe some male pattern baldness. 80 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 7: If you're lucky, you look like a real man. And 81 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 7: so that's the kind of stuff. You've been doubling down 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 7: on global warming, this kind of stuff, illegal immigration, more 83 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 7: and more and more. So they're telling them, hey, look, guys, 84 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 7: got you gotta seem relatable, you know, just listen to 85 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 7: whathes you know, when I'm at the grocery store, people 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 7: are very concerned about Ukrainian war crimes. Let me ask 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 7: you this, do you know a single person who would 88 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 7: go up to a congressman at the grocery store. Congressman, 89 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 7: I'm worried about what's happening in Kiv and what about Crimea. 90 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 7: I'm worried Crimea may be lost the tank count. This 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 7: is becoming a war of attrition, and Zelensky doesn't appear 92 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 7: on the northern front to be able to repel the 93 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 7: Russian tanks purely based on numb I. 94 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: Don't think people are saying that. I know they're not. 95 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 7: The average American does not care about politics in the 96 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 7: context in which the lobbyists talk the politicians into taking action. 97 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 7: Americans do not care. Now, you might work with somebody 98 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 7: if you live in New York or DC or Filly 99 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 7: or Chicago, maybe whose parents came from Ukraine, and they care, sure, 100 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 7: but Americans don't care. And Americans don't want our money 101 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 7: sent there, and they don't want us sending our boys there. 102 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 3: They don't. 103 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 7: And she says Americans are concerned about Gaza. Let me 104 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 7: ask you, in your life, are you is anybody you know? 105 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 7: Is mister Boudreau next door or mister Abery on the 106 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 7: other side, or mister Thibodeaux back behind the house behind 107 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 7: you do you go out back and say, Thibodeaux, what 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 7: you think is going on with Gaza? 109 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: And what do you think he says? You think he's. 110 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 7: Concerned about Gaza. You think he's worried over what's happening 111 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 7: between Israel and Gaza and whether the people of Gaza 112 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 7: are being fed or whether the food is being stolen 113 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 7: by Hamas. You think he's saying to himself, we need 114 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 7: to have a bake sell for the people of Gaza. 115 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 7: Now where is that again? And who are they again? 116 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 7: I'm thinking, let's not worry about America. Let's send every 117 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 7: penny we've got to Gaza to fund Hamas and to 118 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 7: Ukraine to fund Zelenski, who is a multi billionaire while 119 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 7: I'm over here struggling to get by. Thank you, Congressman 120 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: for listening to me and the people in my community, 121 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 7: because this is what we care about about. 122 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Bizarre of talk radio The Michael Berry Show. 123 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 7: I received a message this morning of passing if I 124 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 7: want to talk to anybody, because Texas A and M University, 125 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 7: which is located in College Station, Texas, which is about 126 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 7: a couple hours outside of Houston. I didn't go to 127 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 7: Texas A and M University. You may know them as 128 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 7: the maroon colored football team or baseball or basketball team. 129 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 7: The Texas A and M stands for Agricultural and Mechanical School. 130 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 7: Came about in the late nineteenth century. It's a heritage 131 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: Texas school and for short for the Agricultural and Mechanical 132 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 7: became the Aggies, So the Texas A and M Aggies 133 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 7: or TAMU Aggies. They offer a class on Texas barbecue. 134 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 7: They teach the history of Texas barbecue, the best in 135 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 7: the world by the way methodology, flavorings, seasonings, and the 136 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 7: different types of barbecue, the different methods of preparation, the 137 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 7: different rubs, different cuts of meat. They teach the class 138 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 7: during the fall semester on Friday afternoons, which reminds me 139 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 7: taxpayers pay for universities. A lot of people don't understand this. 140 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 7: The student's tuition is only a small percentage of the 141 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 7: cost of the university experience, and I mean room and. 142 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: Board and the whole deal. 143 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: Tuition only covers a very small percentage of faculty or 144 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 7: teaching assistant salaries, administrative offices, facilities, maintenance, and the light. 145 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 7: It is heavily subsidized by taxpayers, many of whom never 146 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 7: went to college. It strikes me that somewhere along the way, 147 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 7: the university separated from the very people who pay for it. 148 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 7: And what made me think of this is my friend 149 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 7: of mine. Friend of mine, he's a tradesman. He runs 150 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 7: the company his father ran before him. He didn't go 151 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 7: to college, he had no interest in going to college. 152 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 7: Now I went and got not one, but two law degrees. 153 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 7: And my buddy makes more than probably fifty percent of 154 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 7: the people I went to law school with. And they 155 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 7: work insane hours because law is not for the faint 156 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 7: of heart. It's long hours, especially if you're at a 157 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 7: big law firm. He has a better quality of life. 158 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 7: He's involved with his kids, and he's raising up his 159 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 7: son's four kids, two boys and two boys, are coming 160 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 7: up through the business. They work with him during the 161 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 7: summer and on the weekends. They've each been able to 162 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 7: buy their own truck. They pay their own They want 163 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 7: to go eat a burger, they go to burger. They 164 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 7: got money in their pocket, they earn it, they work. 165 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 7: They don't sit around playing video games. But he chose 166 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 7: not to go to college. It didn't suit him, and 167 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 7: he's done very well for himself. And it strikes me 168 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 7: that he's paid a lot of money into an education 169 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 7: system that he really gets nothing out of education should 170 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 7: be shared. Saint Jude Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee is one 171 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 7: of the greatest medical facilities in the world, not just 172 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 7: because they treat every form of children's cancer, but because 173 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 7: if you're chosen as a patient to go there, if 174 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 7: you are accepted to go there, it doesn't cost you 175 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 7: a penny. I think I read that they raise a 176 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 7: million dollars a day. We've raised a lot of money 177 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 7: for Saint Jude over the years on our show. We 178 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 7: do that on the morning show, now on the evening show. 179 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 7: It's a wonderful organization. 180 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: I've toured it. We do a golf tournament. Every year 181 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: we've raised. 182 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 7: I bet it'll be close to ten million dollars either 183 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 7: this year or by next year that we've raised for 184 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 7: Saint Jude. I'm very proud of that. But Saint Jude 185 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 7: does something amazing. Nothing is proprietary. When they do research, 186 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 7: when they test, when they try experiment on a kid 187 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 7: that has has cancer, and they start perfecting techniques to 188 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 7: treat pediatric brain cancer, for instance. That's all open source. 189 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 7: They make it available. There are patients in Africa, Asia, 190 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: South America, Europe, the Middle East where the doctor is 191 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 7: confronted a surgeon is confronted with a kid with a 192 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 7: cancer and the kid can't can't travel for whatever reason, 193 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 7: the doctor can't travel, and they will actually set up 194 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 7: a screen and there'll be a screen that they'll set 195 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 7: up for the doctor in the far off place, and 196 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 7: they will walk that doctor through how to perform this procedure. 197 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 7: They also film procedures that they perform and they make 198 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 7: those available so that some doctor in Kigali, Kenya, who 199 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 7: has a similar case of a tumor coming out of 200 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 7: the side of an eight year old kid's head, he 201 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 7: can see exactly how they did it. You may be 202 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 7: that person. I'm not the person, but I know a 203 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 7: lot of people who have done amazing things, whether it's 204 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 7: a craft, a repair project, a construction project. Because you 205 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 7: pulled out YouTube and you watch somebody do it, and 206 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 7: you watch them again, and you watched them again, and 207 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 7: you watched them again, and then you started trying to 208 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 7: do it, and you stopped the video and you did 209 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 7: a rewind and you watched it again. 210 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: Well, they're doing that. 211 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 7: They're doing that with cancer treatment around the world, and. 212 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: They're sharing all of that. 213 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 7: It's not just that, hey, we've got this thing, we're 214 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 7: gonna hold it and keep it to ourselves. I think 215 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 7: Elon became insanely popular when he opened up his network, 216 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 7: his infrastructure of charging stations, which are extremely expensive to build, 217 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 7: and made them available and compatible with other electric vehicles. 218 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 7: It was Rod Canyon, who was the CEO of Compact 219 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 7: Computers in Houston, who took on Big Blue IBM and 220 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 7: Big Blue was the monopoly for all intents and purposes 221 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 7: in the computer business and little bitty tiny compact in Houston, 222 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 7: Texas and my dear friend Rod Canyon. They challenged Big Lou. 223 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 7: And when Steve Jobs came out with the iPhone, he said, 224 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 7: but for Rod Canyon and Little Compact Computers in Houston, Texas, 225 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 7: there would have been no Apple. There will have been 226 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 7: no iPhone, There would have been no iPad, no MacBook, 227 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 7: no nothing. IBM had the lock and they played hardball. 228 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 7: So just before that's why you have IBM and PC 229 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 7: instead of IBM, or that's why you have a PC 230 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 7: and Apple, because what he managed to do. Sometimes sharing 231 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 7: what you have allows everything to grow. A rising tide 232 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 7: lifts all boats. 233 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: As John F. 234 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 9: Kennedy said, educational institutions don't belong to the point he 235 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 9: head Trump paters who are there, they're paid for by 236 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 9: the taxpayers, and they should share with the communities and the. 237 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 7: Taxpayers this educational process that would improve the entirety. The 238 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 7: singer of that song is Natasha Owens. Wayne Allen Root, 239 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 7: who is a talk show host and a big Trump supporter. 240 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 7: Was he says he's the one who came up with 241 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 7: the Chosen One as the title for Trump. 242 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: I no, reasonably that's not true. I just don't know. 243 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: But Natasha Owens. 244 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 7: Received a commendation for one billion views on social media 245 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 7: for that song. You can find it online Natasha Owens 246 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 7: the Chosen One. Further to my point I have made 247 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 7: so many times, the arbiters of pop culture, the gate 248 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 7: keepers of commentary, are out of sync with the vast 249 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 7: majority of Americans. And it is not until something is 250 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 7: put into the public domain and the public has an 251 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 7: awareness of it. Because if you write a song and 252 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 7: sing it, record it and nobody knows about it, it can't 253 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 7: go viral. This is why I Talk radio has been 254 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 7: so powerful, absolutely powerful, is because no matter what CBS, ABC, 255 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 7: NBCMSNBCC and frankly sometimes Fox, no matter what details, they 256 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 7: keep the public from knowing. If people become aware on 257 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 7: Moss writ large of what's going on, the reaction most 258 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 7: Americans feel the way you do. I know, I know 259 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 7: it's frustrating. I know it feels like you're in the minority, 260 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 7: but you're not. That's why twenty sixteen was such a 261 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 7: shock to the system. People didn't realize. People in DC 262 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 7: didn't realize that voters at home had had enough of 263 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 7: eight years of Barack Obama and frankly eight years of 264 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 7: George Bush and eight years of Bill Clinton. That had enough, 265 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 7: That had enough of illegal immigration, that had enough of 266 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 7: the government takeover of their healthcare, that had enough of 267 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 7: the taxes, that had enough of the self dealeye, they 268 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 7: had enough of being lectured, that had enough of woke 269 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 7: policies and DEI. 270 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: That had enough enough, And. 271 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 7: When given an opportunity to express that dissatisfaction and pivot 272 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 7: and go a different direction, which is what Trump represented, 273 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 7: they took it. But Trump wasn't like other politicians. He 274 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 7: was a juggernaut. There were almost twenty candidates in that race, 275 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 7: and he raced through the primary Americans. I've made this 276 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: point again and again I'll say it again. I don't 277 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 7: think Trump could have been elected in two thousand and eight. Maybe, 278 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 7: in twelfth, maybe, but by sixteen the nation was ready. 279 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 7: You know, I can't tell you how many of my 280 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 7: friends have said to me of their wife and they 281 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 7: have the best relationship. And you know, I don't meet 282 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 7: these guys until later in life. And I'll say, you know, 283 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: it makes me happy to see another couple that is 284 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 7: happy with each other. 285 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: You got a good one. 286 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 7: You got a keeper, as we say fishing term. You 287 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 7: got to keep her. You don't throw that one back. 288 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 7: You've got to keep she's a keeper. I can't tell 289 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 7: you how man my friends have said. You know, I'm 290 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 7: glad I didn't meet her in high school because I 291 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 7: wasn't ready for her. Glad I didn't meet her in college. 292 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 7: Glad I didn't meet her until I was, you know, 293 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 7: twenty five thirty five. Sometimes it's the second way, Glad 294 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 7: I didn't meet her when I would have thrown her back, 295 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: because she's a keeper. A man has to grow up 296 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 7: until he understands and he has to grow up. And 297 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 7: it's not the until he grows up that he realizes 298 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 7: that's a good girl right there. That's the one I 299 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 7: want to lay down with every night and get up 300 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 7: with every morning. That's the one I'm willing to have 301 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 7: a joint bank account with. That's the one that when 302 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 7: we drive five hours to the lake, I don't dread 303 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 7: her taking her shoes off in the car, putting them 304 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 7: up on the above the glove box, and us having 305 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 7: a conversation about what's going on. That's the one I 306 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 7: don't mind if she needs to call me during the 307 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 7: workday because she needs a minute spending some time with her. 308 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 7: That's the one that will make good decisions. That's the 309 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 7: one I don't have to go look at her phone 310 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 7: and see who she's texting with and who That's the 311 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 7: one that I don't have to worry that she's so 312 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 7: jealous that I can't have friends that are girls. I 313 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 7: can't go for boys' weekend. That's the one that's the keeper. 314 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 7: That's the one that's going to instill the values in 315 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 7: my children that even if I'm on a work trip 316 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 7: on a rig offshore for a month, I can come 317 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: back and not worry that my kids are little brats, 318 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 7: because that's one that's going. 319 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: To train him upright as a good, godly woman. 320 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 7: Right there, that's a woman that I'm willing to invest 321 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 7: in and have invest in me. That's the keeper. Likewise, 322 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 7: Trump found his moment. It took eight awful years of 323 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 7: Barack Obama, after frankly eight years of the neo Kon 324 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 7: Bush administration, until people realized, I don't want the same 325 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 7: old Republicans. I don't want more Bushies. Remember we had 326 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 7: the Jeb Bush option. He had to have exclamation mark 327 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 7: after his name to get excited, because you might not otherwise. 328 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 7: We had almost twenty candidates in our race. Trump met 329 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: his moment. That was the moment that Americans said, you 330 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 7: know what, I don't care what he has said. 331 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't care what was the words he's used. I 332 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: don't care if he's been married before. I don't care 333 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: if he's rich. I don't care if he's skinning his orange. 334 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't care. I want this guy right now. He's 335 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: the one that's a chosen at the end. 336 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 7: Remember me, I can't remember Scott out good bear. So 337 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 7: we were having dinner a couple of weeks ago, and 338 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 7: there was a couple behind us, at the table behind us, 339 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 7: and they had two little kids, maybe almost maybe three, 340 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 7: one maybe six, And the three year old stumbled over 341 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 7: and was holding onto my chair and pulling my shirt 342 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 7: from behind to stabilize because it was that kind of 343 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 7: doddering that little toddlers and old people do. And the 344 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 7: older brother comes running over and grabs a little three 345 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: year old scoops him away, and the dad not so 346 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 7: much for the kid, but for me to know that 347 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 7: I knew that he's a decent human being and he 348 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 7: didn't want his kid doing that. He's yelling at the kid, 349 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 7: and I said, oh, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, 350 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 7: don't nor worry. And Crockett was with us, and I said, 351 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 7: my kids are eighteen and nineteen. I miss you know, 352 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 7: little bitty kids. And my wife was saying, yeah, we 353 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 7: miss it. Enjoy this time, don't worry. 354 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: It's fine. You're out at dinner, but. 355 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 7: You can't have more than two bites without you know, 356 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 7: them running off or doing something right, choking, getting where 357 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: they're not supposed to throw in their food. Whatever is 358 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 7: the little kids, they're adorable, and so the guy had 359 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 7: a hat. 360 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: What was his school? Saint John's. The guy was wearing 361 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: Saint John. 362 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 7: I says that Saint John's in Houston, which is one 363 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 7: of the elite private schools, and he said it is 364 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 7: and I said, oh, you went to Saint John's and 365 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 7: he said, yes, Wesley Hunt went to Saint john a 366 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 7: lot of people. Who's the movie maker Ramon did, yeah, 367 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 7: Wes Anderson went to Saint John's. 368 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: It's over near River Oaks. 369 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 7: And I said, oh, you went to Saint john And 370 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 7: I turned to her and said, you go to Saint John's. 371 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: She said, I did not. I went to and I 372 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: can't remember. 373 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 7: It was one of their rivals, Episcopal Kincaid Saint Thomas, 374 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 7: but anyway, it was one of their rivals. And I said, oh, well, 375 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 7: how did y'all get together? And she said, well, we 376 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 7: didn't get together till after college. And I said, oh, 377 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 7: so y'all met in college and she said no, I'm 378 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 7: an Aggie and he's a longhorn. I said, well this 379 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 7: is these these are fun family traditions, white the rivalries, 380 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 7: and she said, yes, we started dating before we knew 381 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 7: that we had both attended rival schools, and we're the 382 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 7: same exact year, which I thought was funny. I saw 383 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 7: a mean that said, y'all have five weeks to get married, move, 384 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: have baby showers, and everything else after that, don't ask 385 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 7: me to do anything unless it involved watching Texas football. 386 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 7: I'm going to say it again this year, Fellas. Your 387 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 7: girlfriend doesn't know any better, so she's gonna pick a 388 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 7: date in November when the weather's pretty on a Saturday 389 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 7: for your wedding, and you're in that coochy coo phase 390 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 7: where just you know your testosterone has dipped. You're taking 391 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 7: pictures with her that her mother and her and the 392 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 7: photographer her all dreamed up. They've put you in an 393 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 7: outfit that you look like a fool, an absolute fool. 394 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: They've got you. 395 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 7: They might as well have you painted up like boy George, 396 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 7: because you're just a doll for her look. You're really 397 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 7: just there to be in her picture, and they've got 398 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 7: you with the one where both of your eyes are 399 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 7: looking at each other and y'all are back to bag 400 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 7: and then you're doing all the goofy pictures that we 401 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 7: get sucked into doing because at that point you're all 402 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 7: lovey dub and you don't think about the fact that 403 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 7: her parents are going to mail that to all of 404 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 7: her parents' friends, some of whom are your friend's parents, 405 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 7: and for the rest of your life, those photos are 406 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 7: out there and y'all are wearing all white, and one 407 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 7: of them then you got the denim in one of them, 408 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 7: and you're all cleaned up and your hair's combed and 409 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 7: you look like a dufust but you're in love and 410 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 7: you're gonna do this for her. 411 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: We got it. 412 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 7: Okay, she's gonna pick that date in November. That's a Saturday, 413 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 7: because that's when the venue told them, you can only 414 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 7: have what November eighth, I don't know what the day is. 415 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 7: And she's gonna go, we have to do this one. 416 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 7: My mom said, we have to do this. It's the 417 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: only day we can get this venue. We really want 418 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 7: this venue. It's the only day to florist. 419 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: You know why. It's the only day available. Do you 420 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: know why? 421 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 7: Because it's the biggest day for UT football and the 422 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 7: biggest day for A and M football. And you probably 423 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 7: got UHTCU SMU Texas Tech done in for good measure 424 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 7: as well. 425 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: And you are gonna go. 426 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: Oh oh oh, hey, no, woh wait, that's the that's 427 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 7: the day of the big game, and. 428 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: She my mom said, we have to do it. Then. 429 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 7: That's the only day we can get the venue. That's 430 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 7: the only way. Otherwise we have to wait till April. 431 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 7: And when I'm not waiting till April, We're doing it November. 432 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 7: You know what, your friends will put a TV in 433 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 7: the groom's dressing room, y'all, and then you're gonna go, 434 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 7: oh man, because you don't want. 435 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: To fight it. 436 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 7: You don't want to put your foot down, and that 437 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 7: imitation is gonna go down, and your buddies are gonna goay, hey, Rob, 438 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 7: are you serious? Are you serious? Your wedding is on 439 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: the biggest football day of the year. I know her 440 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 7: mom said we had to do it because that's today. 441 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: The venue was open. Yeah. 442 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: The reason it was open is because the dudes before you, 443 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 7: a long line of them, said, uh uh, we're not 444 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 7: doing it that Saturday. I'm not asking my friends to 445 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 7: come to a wedding on that day, or a baby shower, 446 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 7: or a wedding shower or anything else. Ladies, you've got 447 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 7: three quarters of the year to play in stuff. I 448 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 7: know it's hot in the summer. I know they're all 449 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 7: booked up in the spring. You know why they're all 450 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 7: booked up in the spring, because people aren't committed on. 451 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: Saturdays in the spring. All we ask, all we ask. 452 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 7: I believe that if you book your wedding on a 453 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 7: Saturday dream football season, you deserve to have nobody there 454 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 7: and fellas. If you allow that, you already headed down 455 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 7: a bad path.