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Speaker 1: R Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive on dl

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Speaker 1: WE here with Matt Williams, and it's a Wednesday. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers had their first practice today as they prepare to

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Speaker 1: new tests today. Of course, Kevin Stefanski, their head coach,

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Speaker 1: not coaching. We talked a lot about that yesterday. Of course.

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Speaker 1: Our ongoing coverage here on the Steelers Nation Radio of

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Speaker 1: and fed X and Matt. Steelers injury report today, Um,

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Speaker 1: somewhat promising. I guess you could say, I guess you

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Speaker 1: could say it's promising. Chris Chris Boswell was limited with

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Speaker 1: that groin injury. Your place kicker whether he was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a hard one to judge's yeah, Um yeah. Terrell

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Speaker 1: Edmonds was back as a full participant. UH Steven Nelson

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Speaker 1: with a knee, was limited. Tyson and Louia lucan ankle

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Speaker 1: but all those guys are expected to play. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that nothing really came out of the

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Speaker 1: week seventeen game. Um detrimental to the health, right. The

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Speaker 1: typical is Mike Tomlin likes to say bumps and bruises

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Speaker 1: associated with play, and those are a lot worse than

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Speaker 1: probably the most Yeah, a lot of our listeners even realized.

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Speaker 1: I mean some of these guys, they look pretty beat up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but by Friday. By Friday, they're back out there. You know.

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Speaker 1: I did. We have an opportunity to talk to David

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Speaker 1: the Castro uh this afternoon, and I asked, I said, David,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff? Are you feeling good about right now?

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Speaker 1: I said, Or would you have appreciated the week off,

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Speaker 1: you know last week? Right? He said, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I we're all dealing with something here. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if you can't get if you can't get fired up

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Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 1: doing here. So it was find that interesting too, because

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Speaker 1: He'd be sitting on his chair and he always wore

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Speaker 1: said that, you know, he didn't feel human again until

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Speaker 1: you know, during the season. How how weird this season was.

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Speaker 1: How many times I updated my iPhone and then the

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Speaker 1: Where's this thing at? I can't find it. I know

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Speaker 1: brook have at it. That's kind of where Dotson has

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Speaker 1: Splane in the starting line Williams. Yeah, and that they're

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Speaker 1: Tomlin didn't say, hey, let him run for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: in the in the hands of my best player and po, No,

424
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: seriously call an r p O. Let him look it

425
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: over and decide. And I'm running. If I'm running the

426
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: ball there, I want James Conner in the game. Well

427
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: what you know what I mean? I but you hand

428
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: it off to a running back based on what you see,

429
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: or he looks it over and decides that that's not

430
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: the play. If that's what he decides, and then he

431
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, throws it to the open man like he

432
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: didn't late in the Eagles game to Chase Claypool and

433
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: I went for a touchdown. So that's that's my offense.

434
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: And I think if in those situations, and I think

435
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: if you would go, you know, to any defensive coordinator

436
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: of any team in these playoffs and give him sodium

437
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: pentethal to make them tell the truth, that's what they

438
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: fear more than a Gadget play. Yeah, question would love

439
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: to have been on the sideline, right, Yeah, I mean yeah,

440
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot, like what does the

441
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: defense want to see? Oh, we'd love to see Gentry

442
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: and Samuel's of course, labs. I'll never forget. There was

443
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a couple of summers ago we were up at Latrobe.

444
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: You joined Dale and I and that was the summer

445
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: where the Browns were favored to win the a f

446
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: C North. They just traded for O'Dell and you know,

447
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: get your money in now because this is gonna be

448
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: a dynasty. And I remember you sitting with us, going,

449
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: let's see how expectations treat this team. Let's see, when

450
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: you have to play on Monday night, travel home at

451
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: four in the morning, and get ready to come to

452
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh the next week. You know, like you really laid

453
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: it out well, and the Browns will come a long way.

454
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're a deserving playoff team. But Dale

455
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: and I've been talking all week that I kind of

456
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: feel like They're super Bowl happened last Sunday. Oh yeah.

457
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I really believe is is

458
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: a shock to the system of a team like that

459
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: is dealing with success, because you know, how do you

460
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: handle like and I don't know, and I'm not saying

461
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: that you know there, but what's their concentration level when

462
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: they came back after making the playoffs for the first

463
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: time in eighteen years? I mean, I just can't believe

464
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: that there is no because it's natural human reaction. We

465
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: made it think a T shirts made playoff t shirts. Well,

466
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: there you go. And you know, before we came on

467
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: the air, Dale, I told you, and this is true.

468
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like I'm just saying that to

469
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: make fun of the Browns, but this is true. Within

470
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: the Browns organization. They have something called the Happiness Committee.

471
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: And the Happiness Committee has its own like um, I believe,

472
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have a Twitter handle, but

473
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: they had to have their own email address, you know

474
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: within the Browns you know, uh team, you know email system.

475
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: And these are people who, um, you know, they hang

476
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: balloons and an office and streamers. They're the dunder Mifflin

477
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Party Committee. Well yeah, I mean, um, it's it's like

478
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, keeping morale up or whatever. But um, you know,

479
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: it just blows. It blows my mind. I mean they

480
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: come out and they put they put it. They put

481
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: the little hearts and stuff around everybody's lockers in the

482
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: in the locker room like you did in high school.

483
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: You know, a little picture good luck in the playoffs, Labs.

484
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: You're not in charge of the Happiness Committee on the

485
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: south side. You talked to me enough, Matt commod be

486
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: perfect for that job. Yeah. I mean, it's like the

487
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Spirit committee in high school. You know, you paint the

488
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: signs and you know spirit spirit who's got it? You know,

489
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, pep brow ease and but

490
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's um, you know, and when you when

491
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: you approach an NFL season like that. I mean, you

492
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: know the next team is is waiting to rip your

493
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: head off when you start winning. Um. And you know,

494
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: the Browns they're not gonna sneak up on anybody anymore.

495
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna sneak up on the Steelers

496
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. And if you know, there are more

497
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: games this year for them, it's going to get worse

498
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: every time. And next year, you know, whoever has them

499
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: opening weekend is not gonna think the Browns are slappy.

500
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: You know, we're want to Oh no, they're thinking how

501
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna rip Baker Mayfield's head off. Um. So there's

502
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know, and and taking it

503
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: even to the Steelers. You know, seventy two the Immaculate

504
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: Reception and you know everybody got all fired up about that,

505
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: and you know, don't forget you know, Roy Blunt Jr.

506
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: Embedded with the Steelers, UM the author for the seventy

507
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: three season to write a book about the Steelers based

508
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: on their you know, Cinderella Immaculate Reception year of ninety two.

509
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: And the book he ended up writing the title of

510
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: it was three brickshy of a Load, because um, they didn't. Yeah,

511
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: they're not. And a lot of times it's not necessarily

512
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: personnel or coaching, it's psychological. To your point on that, Bob,

513
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: this this game being played Sunday night, I think really

514
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: benefits the Steelers because the Browns player that you know,

515
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, is gonna be sitting in a hotel room

516
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Saturday night, uh and then all day Sunday bouncing off

517
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: the walls. That's who he is by all accounts. I mean,

518
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: he's a high strung kind of guy to begin with. Um,

519
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: you want him thinking about that game all day long

520
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: and just thinking okay, and then it gets in their heads. Well.

521
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: On the other thing that I for me personally, the

522
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: reason that I wanted this scenario was because you know,

523
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: and and I'm not really criticizing them because again, you

524
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: haven't been in the playoffs for eighteen years. Uh. You know,

525
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: there has to be a little bit of relief slash

526
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, celebration slash happiness associated with finally, you know,

527
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: scaling that mountain. But I'm sure that there was some

528
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: talking on the field uh Sunday after they won. Um.

529
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: And again I'm not I'm I'm saying that that's normal

530
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: human behavior. But if you're on the other end of

531
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: that talking, you know, all of a sudden, your little

532
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: brother starts wolfing in your face because you know, you

533
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: decided to play one on one in your backyard and

534
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: basketball left handed, and you know he won at the

535
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: end by banking in a shot from the top of

536
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: the key. Um, you know he's gonna talk a little

537
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: bit and you get tired of hearing that real quick. Um.

538
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'm hoping is at work here.

539
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Uh And um, you know if it is, because I

540
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: do think that the Steelers respond well to, you know,

541
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: getting punched in the mouth, especially by you know someone

542
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: or a team, some team that you know you don't

543
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: really think I should be doing the punching. And um,

544
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Brown's gotta come here now. So you know, again,

545
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I think that this sets up well for the Steelers.

546
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Now they just have to not um squander this opportunity.

547
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Bobby I dug up a stat yesterday, since two thousand

548
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: and two first time quarterbacks in the playoffs are nine

549
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: and thirty, is there something to that other than just

550
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: being nine and thirty or or is that is that real?

551
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: To to orderbacks need to learn how to win in

552
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Oh absolutely remember Ben's first playoff games was awful. Awful,

553
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: It was awful. I mean, um, the Steelers ended up

554
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: winning because the slappy kicker from the Jets, Miss Doug

555
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: Bryant I think was his name two thousand and four,

556
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: A couple maybe one at the end of the game

557
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: and one in overtime or whatever a wife. Um. But yeah,

558
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think the enormity of the moment,

559
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, it gets to the best of them. Um.

560
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, and and again with the Steelers

561
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: in oh four, there were a lot of players on

562
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: that team who we're not playoff neophytes. You know, guys

563
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: had been the playoffs, have played in championship games, lost,

564
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: but still played in conference championship games, one divisions. You know,

565
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. Um, but you know, the

566
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: first time or I think that you can expect a

567
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: little bit of I don't know, Um, you know the

568
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: big guys that kids get when you know they walk

569
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: into Disney World the first time or whatever, and you know,

570
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit more of an issue when

571
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: it's your quarterback because of you know, his role on

572
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the offense, on the team, A lot of other guys

573
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: are gonna look to the quarterback for I won't say

574
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: guidance necessarily, but um, you know, setting an emotional tone,

575
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: calm when it's needed. Uh um, you know, fire them

576
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: up when it's needed. And you know, I don't know,

577
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what Baker Mayfield is gonna have in those

578
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: areas in his first playoff game. I don't think he

579
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: knows what he's gonna have in those areas in his

580
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: first playoff game until he experiences it. Now, the one

581
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: advantage Baker Mayfield has is what they're gonna be sixty

582
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: people in the stand, I mean, because imagine that place

583
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: packed on and for a night game. Crowd is well

584
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: lubricated against the Browns, they have their voices. Um without

585
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: a head coach, right, that's kind of big too. And

586
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: he's the guy. He's a guy I think who deserves

587
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: so much credit for kind of smoothing a lot of

588
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: the Brown's rough edges. Um, because they had players, they

589
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: had talent, but you know, just some of it slappy

590
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: things that the Browns were known for. Kevin Stefans, like

591
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: a happiness committee. Well I've thought about on the field, Um,

592
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: slappy things the Browns were known for. He kind of

593
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I won't say, eliminated them all, but certainly limited them way, way,

594
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: way below what we have come to expect from that

595
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: team in that franchise. So he's not going to be there. Uh.

596
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: I just wonder what kind of presence, if any, he

597
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: can have that day. I mean, I don't know the

598
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: specific rules. I was reading them today. He's allowed to,

599
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: uh to talk to the team via zoom before the

600
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: game in the locker room, but as soon as the

601
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: game starts, he is he can't. He can't have any communication,

602
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: not allowed to have any communication once the game starts.

603
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: So he's watching on TV like everybody else. Yeah. Um, so,

604
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna miss him. And it's not so

605
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: much I don't believe so much the play calling as

606
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it is the understanding or having a feel, you know,

607
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: for the reality of the moments as they come up

608
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: over the course of the game. Um, it's or chaotic

609
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: than people realize. The communication is very important. Well again,

610
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean again, um, and I've done this with people.

611
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: And it was college game, a college game, Ohio State, Michigan.

612
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I was in a place, you know, and there was

613
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: one group of fans from Ohio state routing for them,

614
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: one group of fans Michigan root for them. It came

615
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: down to the end, you know, do you go for

616
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: this was a few years ago. Do you go for

617
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: two and try to win it right then? Or do

618
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: you kick and play over time? Who's gonna make that decision? Seconds?

619
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: You got, that's right, you have to make the decision.

620
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: But right, well, personnel grouping, you know, all of that stuff,

621
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, tik talk fellas, what what do you got?

622
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think you would want to give the

623
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: impression to your players that you know, you're pulling something

624
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: out of a hat and flipping a coin. So uh yeah,

625
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: there's as as Matt said, it's very chaotic and there's

626
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things involved that you know, a clock

627
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: is ticking, uh, you know, and you have to make

628
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: these decisions, your time, all that stuff, right challenges, um.

629
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: You know, you might think, hey, this is you know,

630
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge just I can win this, um, but

631
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: maybe that's your last challenge even if it's right, you know,

632
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: is it worth the is it worth the eight yards

633
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: that you're going to get? You know that kind of stuff,

634
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, you get hosed on the first one, so

635
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: the second one, you know you're gonna get this one right,

636
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: but now you're out of challenges. Um So, I mean

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00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of things involved, uh in in

638
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: in a game that I believe that you know, a

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00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: team looks to its head coach for in terms of

640
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: decision making, you know, setting the course, um, you know,

641
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: being being the rock, um, you know whatever, and they're

642
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: certainly gonna miss that. And the fact that you know

643
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: it's the first time for the franchise in eighteen years.

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00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's really nobody I don't think on that

645
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: sideline you can turn to with enough experience, who can

646
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, step step onto the bridge of the you know,

647
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: the Starship Enterprise and say, okay, I got it from here.

648
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Um So again, I'm gonna say this again. I I

649
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: hope the Steelers, you know, don't squander this opportunity. Well,

650
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you go. Bob. Our guest has been

651
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: Bob Labriol. We appreciate your efforts here all the time,

652
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: as as uh we we always do. Of course, Bob

653
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: brought to us by Ford throughout the playoffs here and

654
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: when he stops by on Wednesday's Uh he is Matt Williamson.

655
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm dale you're the best man. Don't don't discredit that

656
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: idea of spearheading the committee here for this. I think

657
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: that's an excellent idea. You're the guy for that happens committe.

658
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I just don't okay us out. And the first thing

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Mat at the point you my first deputy,

660
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: I could be a jolly guy. Matt plans a great party.

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00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Let me tell you we're gonna take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back after this. Your tunes about drive on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We

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Speaker 1: are back up d l Ally here with Matt Williamson

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00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: our ongoing coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Ford and FedEx throughout the playoffs. And Matt,

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00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: I get some numbers here for you. The Browns are

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00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: eleven and twenty all time in playoff games. Okay, the

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: Steelers are thirty six and okay, so that must be

670
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: going back to the fifties and stuff. That's since in

671
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: the Super Boys. Um, I suspect the Steeler has been

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00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot more than the Browns. That's a lot more. Yeah,

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00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean if you're talking. They've they've the Steelers have

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Speaker 1: more playoff wins, and the Browns have playoff game here, right,

675
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: that's a UM. But here's the thing. The road teams

676
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: have won six of the last eight wild card games

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Speaker 1: over the last two seasons. Since the two thousand seven

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: team playoffs, road teams are eight and four in the

679
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: wild card round. It shocked me because like, Washington wins

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00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: their division, but they're not the top four teams, you

681
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And in seven of the past

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: eight seasons, at least one road team is won a

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Speaker 1: wild card game. Okay, and it will happen. We got yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got two teams that are favored this weekend. Baltimore

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00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: has favored over in Tennessee in Tennessee, which is crazy

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: to me in Indiapolis. I'm sorry. They did play that

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00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: game in Baltimore earlier this year, in Tennessee one last year. Um.

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00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: And then Tampa's favorite over Washington. Yeah. Yeah, and I

689
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: think that will happen most years, especially with the seven

690
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: playoffs system. But they also no fans either. There's no fans. Yeah,

691
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: obviously different. Now there are fans in Nashville. It's not full,

692
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: but there's there's something substantial. And then there's this stat

693
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: the Browns have not one in Pittsburgh since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three. That was before Ben Roethlisberger joined the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: So there's nobody on the Steelers roster, coaches, players, who's

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Speaker 1: ever lost to the Browns at home. I bet a

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Speaker 1: quarter of our listeners don't even remember the Steelers pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean it's been so long. Um, they've

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Speaker 1: lost to them twice since they came back into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Here here here. The one was I'll never forget this

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Speaker 1: game because I was on the field when the Browns.

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Speaker 1: It was who was the kicker at the time. He

703
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: was the old Browns kicker? Mat Stover? Yeah, um, Matt Stover?

704
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Phil down? It was Phil Dawson. It was Phil. It

705
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: was Phil Dawson at the time kicked. The Steelers had

706
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Speaker 1: just thrashed the Browns in their season opener that year.

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00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: It was forty one nothing. They just destroyed them. And

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Speaker 1: then the Browns came here in ninety nine and beat

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Speaker 1: the Steelers sixteen fifteen on the last second Phil Dawson

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Speaker 1: field goal. And I remember just looking I was standing

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. I looked over at Bill Cowards as

712
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Speaker 1: his expression as as the ball went through, I went

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Speaker 1: through the uprights, a little shot, a little shot, and

714
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: then didn't see that one coming. Um. The Steelers then

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Speaker 1: beat the Browns thirty thirty three in the playoffs in

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Speaker 1: two thousand two. The next year, the Browns came here

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Speaker 1: and beat the Steelers thirteen. That's the only other time

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Speaker 1: that they've beat in the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Mike Thomas

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00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: never lost to the Browns in Pittsburgh. Ben Roethlisberger has

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Speaker 1: never lost to the Browns here. Wow, I'm that's that rivals.

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00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: That's not quite as crazy as the Ben was the

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Speaker 1: winning this quarterback in Brown Stadium up until this year. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: right right, I mean this is this is Patriots Bills

724
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: type stuff. Right oh yeah, I mean just dominance over

725
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: another team and that stuff doesn't go away quick. And

726
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of new bodies there. And

727
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: we talked about that last week of the regular season

728
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: why the Bills wanted to beat the Patriots so bad

729
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: that and that they rubbed it in at and they

730
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: rubbed it in because they hadn't done it for they

731
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: hadn't won in Foxboro since Jim Kelly was a quarterback situation, right,

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Speaker 1: And trust me, I mean I tell a story all

733
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Speaker 1: the time. I mean it was the one year I

734
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: was there. Phil Savage started every draft meeting with a

735
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: prayer and then he said, alright, fellas, how do we

736
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers? And then let's talk about running backs?

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00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: You know, and they probably I don't know if they

738
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff now, but it hasn't gone away.

739
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the little brother thing is real, you know,

740
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: it certainly is real. Like at the college levels. You know,

741
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: if if a college beats up on your year after year,

742
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm I've been here five years and we were

743
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: oding five against Oklahoma, you know what I mean. And

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00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing, especially a team you

745
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: faced twice a year. I mean yeah, And there's a

746
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: reason why we've seen so many Browns coaches fired after

747
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: a Steeler game. You know that happens all the time. Um,

748
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: but I think that even though they're young, I mean yeah,

749
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're gonna be asked about that

750
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: all week long. You know, you guys haven't won Pittsburgh

751
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: since two thousand and three, and then you start thinking

752
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: about it. We played them twice a year. Yeah, play

753
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: them every year. We don't win down there. Yeah, and

754
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: there's some people on that team going I was four.

755
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, maybe I wasn't paying attention. Then I

756
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: end up in Washington or Florida. I mean, even if

757
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: you start looking at the guys from outside the organization

758
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: who they brought in, how much success have they had

759
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh? Very little, I'm sure. And you mentioned this

760
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: on Monday. Not a lot of playoffs snaps between those

761
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: guys too. I mean, yeah, we played games, but I

762
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: mean they didn't play. They weren't prominent members of their

763
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: old team. I mean jar slandrew aside and he played

764
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: what one game. They haven't played a lot of playoff football,

765
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: and they're young. They never win here. I mean a

766
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of things set up pretty well. And you know,

767
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: nobody in the building today and no head coach. I'll

768
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: say this, none of the none of that stuff matters

769
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: once the ball is kicked off. It doesn't, but it

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00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: does play in your psyche leading up to the game,

771
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: and then if something goes wrong, then it matters. Oh

772
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: here we go again. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

773
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean then you start thinking about it, but it

774
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: doesn't help you block Myles Garrett or get away from

775
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward or you know, they don't drop interceptions that

776
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Ben should have thrown you. Maybe they do, but but yeah,

777
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's definitely real. And and you know,

778
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: even times when they've been close, they find ways to

779
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: lose in their head. Sunday last Sunday, I mean, as

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00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: that game got closer, is that game got you know,

781
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: they're they're in charge, in control of the football game.

782
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: They've got the ball's fourth downom one, they're gonna go

783
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: for it. And Joel Bottonio, who's the longest tenured the

784
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: good player, longest tenured Brown false starts on fourth and

785
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: one like, oh, I know what this feels like again,

786
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Then it's in your head to your point, you know,

787
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: something's always gonna go wrong. And one of these I mean,

788
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: you're not gonna jump up on and especially the Brown's

789
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: team and probably aren't gonna jump up on a Steeler

790
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: defense by fourteen and put it in an easy street

791
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: and neutral and just cruise to a victory most likely.

792
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: And I mean that's a playoff football. And even if

793
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: they are up four team because of their defense, you

794
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: just gave up four teen points to Mason Roodolf in

795
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter last week, each other like I've been there.

796
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I understand this feeling and I don't like it, and

797
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: it's I don't have confidence, you know. Yeah, that's what

798
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: it is. It comes down to confidence. And I can't

799
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: imagine that the Browns, even after winning that game last week,

800
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: have a ton of confidence against this Steelers team. Like

801
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: oh Man and again, Baker may come out flying and okay,

802
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're all got we've got a ton of energy.

803
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: We're young and zuberant, and you know, we're bouncing off

804
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: the walls. But something's gonna go back. But then when

805
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: you get punched in the mouth, what's your you know,

806
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: It's like Mike Tyson. Everybody has a plan until they

807
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: get punched in the mouth. They don't pick up a

808
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: twist or a stunt, right, he gets drilled in the

809
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: breastplate and looks over at the sideline coach to fancy,

810
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: how do we fix that? He's not there? Right? You

811
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that? Yeah, So it's gonna

812
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how this all plays out. But

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00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I thought those are some interesting numbers that they are.

814
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: The wild card teams do win some of these games,

815
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: but they're often the better regular season team nowadays. Yeah,

816
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see how this plays out. But

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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take

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00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: a break. We'll be right back with the fantasy football

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00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 1: focus right after. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly

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00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson, one home of the Black and Goal

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're back then, of course, brought to

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00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: you by Fourth and fed X here throughout the playoffs,

824
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt Espn

825
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: put together, it's it's fantasy wrap up for the for

826
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: the season, and um yeah. The first thing in here

827
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: is that Aaron Rodgers was massively underrated in fantasy drafts.

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00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: He was QB ten in a DP of ninety three.

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00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: This year, I got one. It's even better than that

830
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: because I got Josh Allen in the in the round,

831
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: like the hundred and fifty play it since taken. I

832
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: took him after Carson Wentz Fantacy. I've always been the

833
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: late round quarterback wait forever. I'm starting to change my tune.

834
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: A little bit. I mean, yes, you can hit that

835
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: Alan or Rogers or the year before that was Lamar.

836
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: It's like the best example I can ever remember. Um,

837
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: but you're really at a disadvantage if you don't have one,

838
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: Like there's five or six really good ones and a couple,

839
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, like Lamar into my homes are gonna be

840
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: good next year. They might not be one. They might

841
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: be worth the second they were overdrafted. Overdrafted. There's a

842
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: fine line. I'm trying. I might change my philosophy on

843
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: when I take that was my I mean because in

844
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: my main league, for whatever reason, this year, three quarterbacks

845
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: went in the first round. Yeah, that's insane, that's insane.

846
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: It was it was it was Mahomes, Lamar and Deshaun Watson. Okay,

847
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: and you don't have special quarterback rules. It's not it's

848
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: what's I mean, it's it's it's six past you six

849
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: points for a touchdown pass, which makes it difference. Um,

850
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: and those guys all run a little bit to some degree. Yeah,

851
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: but the right to take I'm not taking those guys

852
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: in the first round. Again. I got Josh, I got

853
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the thirteenth round. You're telling me there's

854
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: who had the better quarterback situation? You buy a time,

855
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, but I didn't. I mean I picked the

856
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: wrong guys, of course, but I left my draft take.

857
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I had Wentz and I had Borrow. Wentz was a disaster.

858
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I started Borrow for most of the year. He got

859
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: hurt that I end up with cousins. You know, Well,

860
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: that's what you can't have happened if your quarterback, it's

861
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: you're not your main quarterback, it's hurt. You're screwed no

862
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: matter what. Yeah, but I had a bad one to

863
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: begin with. I mean, like they were okay, but I

864
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: was at disadvantage every week at the quarter. But Wentz

865
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: was a Wentz was an issue. This was an issue,

866
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: right of course. Um. So that there is their second

867
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: thing here is that Josh Allen became a Fantasy star. Okay, okay, yeah, absolutely,

868
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: um And you know, as as I was sitting and

869
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: I didn't love Josh Allen coming into the season, but

870
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: you know, he ran. I knew he ran. He was.

871
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: He was somebody that I targeted, you know, in that

872
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: taken Wentz and like the ninth round or something like,

873
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: guys were you know that people were taking the Bradies

874
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: and and Roethlisbergers and guys in that nature. I'm like,

875
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: I don't want those guys because they don't run. And

876
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I know, you know, Alan's our short yardage back. I'm like, okay,

877
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: I'll take him in the thirteenth round. Here. I think

878
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: the lesson to learn there is when you do take

879
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, make him have a super high ceiling.

880
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be some of some upside. Yeah, the Bradies

881
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: and Bends of the world Ryan's it's not it's not

882
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: my bag or even the cousins of the world, because

883
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: if he hits wow, and then you get your situation.

884
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran to another huge season. I was drafting

885
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: my my fantasy year this year or something in that

886
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: league I was drafting. I was drafting ninth and Dalvin

887
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Cook falls into my lap. Guys drafted quarterbacks, three of

888
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: them the first round. Yeah, and I'm just going on,

889
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe Dalvin Cook's in the ninth over I'll

890
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: pick It's just fantastic. Yeah, I mean he should have

891
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: been four or five. And sign up. I have Josh

892
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Allen and Dalvin Cook. Tough. That's a tough one. He's

893
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: an awesome player though. I mean, I have no reservations

894
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: about him. He's a certainly a blue chip type, top

895
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: five type of guy. Next year too, Ezekiel Elliott took

896
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: a major step backward he did. Are you buying him

897
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: next year? Not the same price? I mean, I'm not

898
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: taking him in the top three or four picks. I

899
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm taking him in around one. But

900
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: if I'm sitting there at the ninth pick, now, I'm

901
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: starting to get into one. I'm starting to get interested.

902
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: If it's if if you know, seven or eight running

903
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: backs go in front of me. Okay, I'll take a

904
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: shot on Zeke because he's starting to look a little

905
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: better at the end of the year too. And Dac

906
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: and Tyron Smith and Zack Martin, like, I think people

907
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: might undervalue him next year. He's not old. They're not

908
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: paying him. They're not paying him a bunch of money

909
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: to to run Tony Pollar. They know better than anyone,

910
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: and they thought they were breaking down a year ago.

911
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have paid him, right. Uh. Davante Adams elevated

912
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: his game to another level. Yeah, he's clearly the number

913
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: one receiver, right, I mean, that's not even I'm not

914
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: sure who two is next? Well might be the next guy.

915
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs formed an immediate chemistry with Josh Allen. Yeah,

916
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: and that certainly helped Alan's cause too. Yeah, I mean,

917
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: if somebody, I mean, if you, if you, if you're

918
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: again you're sitting there in the ninth spot and it's

919
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs in Ezekiel Elliott. Now I'm now

920
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: I'm pondering. Look, yeah right, I mean Adams is a great,

921
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: great player and not the Diggs isn't. I'm wondering, like

922
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: what lessons can we learn? Like, let's say I don't

923
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: wanna say Donald's on the same spot where Alan was

924
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: a year ago, but some up and coming quarterback that has,

925
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, some promise but questions. Let's say they add

926
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: Allan Robinson or something like that. Let's I mean we've

927
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: talked about We've talked a little bit about Drew Lock. Yeah.

928
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't love Drew Lock. And maybe it's not next year,

929
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's two years from now, but he's got and

930
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: he's got weapons. Yeah, Um, you know they've they've they've

931
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: put some pretty good guys around him, and he gets

932
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: like Courtland Sutton comes back next year. He played all

933
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: year without him. Second, Yeah, Fat missed a lot of

934
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: time this year. I mean, they got weapons around him.

935
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: He could he could be that guy. He could be

936
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: that guy. Um. Travis Kelsey posted one of the best

937
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: tight end seasons ever. I think he's the fantasy m

938
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: v P. Like, if we knew what we knew now

939
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: and we had a draft, I'd take him at one.

940
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: He was so much well their next thing here is

941
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: that is it. Darren Waller wasn't far behind Kelsey, but

942
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: Waller wasn't as consistent. Waller would have he would have

943
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: twelve catches one week and five the next, whereas Kelsey

944
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: was just Okay, here's penciled in. You're getting twenty plus

945
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: points out of Kelsey every week. Yeah, I mean if

946
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: you have Kelsey and I don't, it's like you're playing

947
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: with an extra starter. Yeah, all right, that's that's hard

948
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: to beat that team. And I think KIDDI will be

949
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: in that lump too. I mean, but I don't know

950
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: if Kelsey ever matched this year. Said it was a

951
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: historically great season. The boy it's a big advantage taking

952
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: a tight end early and those three I think stand

953
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: out next year. I mean there's some good young ones.

954
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: I always always get caught up on the hot young

955
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: It could be Dallas Godard or whoever, Hawkinson, somebody's gonna

956
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: be there. Okay, but man, it's nice having the bird

957
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: in the hand at that position. Yeah. Uh they're the

958
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: m v P this year. Uh there's was Josh Allen. Okay,

959
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: but I mean I hear you, but I mean you

960
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: would have traded Josh Allen for Kelsey? I don't think

961
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: I would have. Maybe after right after the draft. Yeah no,

962
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: I mean even when they were at their best, I

963
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know that I would have because I didn't have

964
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback it was any good because Carson Wentz

965
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: bombed out. Yeah you're saying there, I mean they were.

966
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: I considered at mid season trading Josh Allen, like, okay,

967
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I could do something because my my team was up

968
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: and down. I just got off to a great start.

969
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Cook got hurt and then that kind of derailed me

970
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm like, I need to do something

971
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: here maybe and I'm like, why I could trade Josh Allen,

972
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna get anybody back because I'm not

973
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: going to trade him from the Homes. I'm not gonna

974
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: like that does mean it does me no good. Um,

975
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the position scarcity so much differ run. Yeah,

976
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, but he had just monster weeks, monster weeks. Uh,

977
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: their least valuable players. There's two votes here, Carson Wentz.

978
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: This is at the quarterback position. The quarterback position, Carson

979
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: Wentz and Jared Goff brutal, yeah, brutal. Yeah. And then

980
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and if you were gonna trade Josh Allen, you're you

981
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get Jared Goff back on somebody else.

982
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: That's just too big of a drop off. Golf doesn't

983
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: run either, you know, especially if you have negative plays.

984
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: Wentz has a lot of turnovers. Yeah. Um, if you're

985
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: looking at next year, I don't know how they did this.

986
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't say here. Um, I don't know if these

987
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: are other least valuable players. It can't be because it's

988
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes. This must be some rankings for

989
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: next year, um, Mahomes justin Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Deshaun Watson,

990
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. That's a nice group. That's a nice group. Yeah.

991
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: And if you're if you're looking at a you know,

992
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: drafting next year. I mean you're talking about maybe drafting

993
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback earlier. Well, maybe you can wait a little

994
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: bit longer on Justin Herbert as opposed to some of

995
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: those other guys. Yeah, when I said I'd drafted, I

996
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't phrase that very well. Like you just listed a

997
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: good group of quarterbacks that I think are unlikely to bust,

998
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: you know, like went and goff worn in that group

999
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: a year ago. They were lower lists. You know, they

1000
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: went down the line. But if there's that group plus Watson, Mahomes, Lamar,

1001
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: maybe there's eight of them. I said there's five or six,

1002
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: there's probably eight of them that are every week starters.

1003
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Click the button. Russell Wilson, I know he faded, But

1004
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: if you don't have one of those, you're a little bit.

1005
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: You need number one or to use the first round

1006
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: pick or second round pick. But I think you want

1007
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: to be in the tier two at least. Yeah, and

1008
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you have to pull the trigger instead of

1009
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: waiting until round nine, maybe in round six. Yeah, I

1010
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: think it's one of those guys. I've always been the

1011
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: nine ten and take two of them. Yeah, but maybe

1012
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: it's got to be around five or six, because then

1013
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: you're looking, you know, you could probably maybe throw Ryan

1014
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: tanney Hill into that group as well. Yeah, he's pretty

1015
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. He's not maybe on the level of those guys,

1016
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: but he's not far a week starter. Yea. Perhaps you

1017
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: may perhaps, um, but you may have to eat a

1018
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: few weeks with that. That's the problem. The running backs,

1019
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: the m v P for was that Cockcroft, Tristan Tristan

1020
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: co his His m v P at running back was

1021
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: James Robinson. I guess if you consider the investment, the

1022
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: investment was nil, right right, yeah, of course for matte

1023
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Bow and it was Dalvin Cook. Yeah. Man, he certainly

1024
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: lived up to it more. The least valuable players at

1025
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: the running back position Ezekiel Elliott for Cockcroft and Todd Gurley. Girl,

1026
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: he might not play again. I mean we didn't like

1027
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: Girley going into the season. He was his a DP

1028
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: was one in the second or third round, and it

1029
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: was just I mean I would take Girle in the

1030
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: fifth round and been Okay, he's you know right right, yeah,

1031
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean the guys that obviously killed. Do you were

1032
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: use the first or second pick on McCaffrey or Barkley,

1033
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: You got zero out of either. I mean that ruined

1034
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: your fantasy seas and potential. But Elliot wasn't much better.

1035
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: You took him in the top three, And yeah, I

1036
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: would say those guys are even worse sometimes because you

1037
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: start him every week and you're married to him basically,

1038
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: and he doesn't come to room. At least those guys

1039
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: were hurt. He was playing and not not producing. Yeah,

1040
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: that's a killer um. Some of the top guys coming

1041
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: back next year. David Montgomery has played his way into that.

1042
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be on my team. He won't

1043
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: be on mine either, but he's a go in the

1044
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: top twenty. Derrick Henry, Alvin Kamara, Robinson. I don't know

1045
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: where you draft Robinson. Robinson will be my team either,

1046
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think he will be on mine. Christian McCaffrey,

1047
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, J K. Dobbins. See, I want the young guys.

1048
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: I went Swift, and I went Dobbins and even Acres

1049
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: and the up and comers that really showed it at

1050
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: the end, more so than Montgomery or Robinson. I know

1051
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: he's a rookie, but I just don't think there's a

1052
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: ton of ability there. Yeah, and that usually kind of

1053
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: plays itself out. You don't typically see guys, Oh look

1054
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: at this, these strings together five or six good seasons

1055
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: in a row, and he was undrafted. It's the reason

1056
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: he was drafted. Yeah, and their offense will probably be better,

1057
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: and you know, they'll probably add something else. But he's

1058
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna go high at the wide receiver position, the m

1059
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: V piece to Fund Diggs for Cockerroff Davante Adams for Bowen. Yeah,

1060
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: hard to go wrong with either one of those guys.

1061
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: I like Bowing a lot. I think he's a great

1062
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: analysis analyst. But if you use the first round pick

1063
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: on Cook and you use a top fifteen pick on Atoms,

1064
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: they're not as valuable. Was you got you guys? You guys,

1065
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: you got digs at you know, the wide receiver twelve exactly,

1066
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: and he's wide receiver two. When it you know, I

1067
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: mean his price inflated, you know. Uh, Tyreek Hill said

1068
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: a new career. I was seventeen touchdowns this season. It

1069
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: was like quiet, like people very quiet, right, very quiet?

1070
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Is he your second receiver off the board next year?

1071
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: Like Michael Thomas. I don't think that equation right now?

1072
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Especial In fact, Michael Thomas was both of their least

1073
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: valuables that he killed. Um, I think Adams is clearly one,

1074
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: but I might take Tyree to some of the other

1075
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: young guys. They talked about Hill, Justin, Jefferson, DK metcalf A,

1076
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: J Brown, te Higgins. I'm in on Tee Higgins. Yeah,

1077
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: that offensive the chance be pretty good next year. I

1078
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: actually just did my My Dynasty show last night and

1079
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: we did a special on the Bengals, and I basically said,

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01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: for their cost right now, I'm buying every Bengal. Yeah,

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're not super expensive, mixing Boyd, especially Higgins

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: and Borrow. You know that their stocks a little low

1083
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: right now. But I think that their defense will be bad.

1084
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: He'll probably throw a lot again, hopefully add a lineman

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01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: or two. Um, I want to see who the backup

1086
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be. You can't be what they

1087
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: messed around with this year, because again Burrow may miss

1088
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: the first month of the season. That might be a

1089
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: good Flacco is not a good example, but some are

1090
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: in type that's held down the fort might a bad

1091
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: move there the tight end position. Cockcroft's m v P

1092
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: Darren Waller because he's taking the approach. He's cheaper. He

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: took him in the fifth round and he got great

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: production out of him for bow and his Travis Kelsey.

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: The least valuable player for Cockcroft, it's Tyler Higbee. Yeah,

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: he went pretty high. I mean he was coming off

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: a great second half of five awesome games in a

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: road to finish last year for Bowen and Seckerts. Say

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: Arts is the one that would I would jump to

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: mind for me. Yeah, he he went. I think he

1101
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: was like the third tight end of the board. Oh yeah,

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: you know kid on Kelsey and then Earths was three

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: and he might be done too. Yeah. Um. In his

1104
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: second season, t J. Hawkinson was eighth overall. I'm sorry.

1105
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: I had ten games with at least ten PPR points. Um,

1106
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he caught six touchdowns this year.

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01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: Could be jumped into that. Yeah, you know, depending on

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: what they do it with the coaching position and quarterback. Yeah,

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: I think they keep Stafford. I think they probably do,

1110
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: but there's there's a lot of unknowns around him. I

1111
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: loved them coming out and I still do. I mean,

1112
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big Hawkinson believer. Um, Mike Gassicky, I'm a

1113
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: believer in him too. Again, they just find it's chan

1114
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: Gailey stepped down his air offensive cording. Today. We'll see

1115
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: what they come back with. But get sick. He's a

1116
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: And again, Hawkinson and Gisicky could not be any more

1117
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: different the tight end position. Hawkinson is more like McDonald

1118
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: verse Ebron. Yeah, Gissicki is more like Waller, very much so,

1119
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: because like he doesn't block any He didn't block anybody.

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Speaker 1: He's a tall, skinny volleyball player. Yeah, he's a he's

1121
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He's a big wide receiver. He's a

1122
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: slot receiver. Yeah, he absolutely is. And I think they

1123
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: will add a receiver like it wouldn't shock me if

1124
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: they gave to Davanta Smith somebody. They're gonna add somebody. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And the final guy here on the on the tight

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: end list, Robert Tonyan. Yeah, eleven touchdowns this year. Boy,

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: you made fund of me for a while, but I

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01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: did not believe you. And part of it because I

1129
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: had he had three of those touchdowns against you one week. Right.

1130
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: But he's a former receiver too, Like I kind of

1131
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: brushed him off because I didn't know a whole lot

1132
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: about him. And after I did more homework, like he's

1133
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: a big receiver too in terms of athleticism, but that

1134
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: he won't he could blocked a little bit too, but

1135
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: he gets down field and he can run. Yeah, he's

1136
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: he's a tight end one going in the next year.

1137
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and maybe you don't again, you're not you're

1138
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: not drafting him in the fourth round. But but he's

1139
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: the eighth tight end off the board or ninth or

1140
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: something like that, you know, right, I mean, he's in

1141
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: the mix. It would be you'd much rather have him

1142
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: than Zach Ertz. I mean, he's I mean, like I

1143
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: just mentioned Dallas Goddard, and I assume ERTs will be gone.

1144
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: I love Goddard, I've been a big fan of him,

1145
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: but he's more proven. I want Goddard right, right right.

1146
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what their offense is

1147
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: gonna look like next year, exact Philadelphia. I know Aaron

1148
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers is still gonna be throwing the football the same.

1149
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: You can make the argument that Tanyan's or number two receiver, yeah, absolutely,

1150
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: and they may add one. Yeah, but that's not a

1151
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: bad spot to be the number two targets him in

1152
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: the red zone. Yeah, absolutely. Dante Adams always just coverage

1153
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: rolled his way. I mean he's he's only gonna get

1154
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: better too. I mean young tight ends get better, you know,

1155
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: late in life a little bit too. Yeah. Now, Matt,

1156
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: you drafted your team. We we talked about it yesterday.

1157
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: The playoff team. It's a little bit different though, this one.

1158
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: You can only pick. You can pick whoever you want,

1159
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: but you can only pick a guy once. Throughout the playoffs.

1160
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: You've got a field four different teams week one, all

1161
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: way with the Super So the key this week to

1162
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: me would be picking guys who are going to potentially lose, right,

1163
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm hoping here, here's the team I picked.

1164
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: I'll thought my head. I picked Lamar with the thought

1165
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna use my homes. I'm gonna use Rogers

1166
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: and some of the some other quarterback I think will

1167
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: be there for the super Bowl. Like, you don't want

1168
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: to get this stuck in the super Bowl and you've

1169
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: already used the Homes and Rogers and they play each

1170
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: other and you don't get maybe you want to use

1171
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: Alan next week and the other one. I think I

1172
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: have three that I can use the next three weeks.

1173
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: So I used a good one this week. Um, I

1174
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: used Henry and Taylor as my running backs, thinking they

1175
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: both will probably lose, and I think they'll both produce

1176
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: pretty well. UM. I took Allen Robinson, same thought, and

1177
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: there could be a lot of garbage time there not

1178
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: to think. Who my other receiver was. UM? I took

1179
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas, remember we had the tight end shortage last

1180
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: week last week, and figured he's maybe the second or

1181
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: third best one in the whole thing, number two receiver. Um.

1182
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: Who was the defense I took? There was a couple

1183
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: of really good defenses. I liked, I'm gonna try to

1184
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: save the Steelers. Who's defensive? I liked Seattle's defense this

1185
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: week against the Rams because they might not even have golfed.

1186
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: They It's funny because I put Seattle's defense in and

1187
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: then I went back and changed it. And I'm trying

1188
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: to think I took Tampa because they're playing the pay

1189
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: They're playing Washington, and you know, I think that's the

1190
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: best one this week, and there's other good ones like that.

1191
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm saving the Steelers, I'm saving the Ravens. I'm saving

1192
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: some other good ones. Saints you know that hopefully used

1193
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: down the road. But I kind of played it for

1194
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: tomorrow more than this week. You know, some of those

1195
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: guys I didn't pick Kamara. I mean I saved a

1196
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of stuffs. You almost have to because you don't

1197
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: want to, you know, use all your bullets in the

1198
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: first round. Then you get to the and you get

1199
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: upsets or where those teams win and you're stuck. Well,

1200
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: now I gotta take these. You gotta make sure you're

1201
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna have guys down the road. Yeah, And I think

1202
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: there's like fifty people in this pool, and my thoughts were,

1203
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: I bet the top ten will go heavy into this

1204
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: week and then I don't you know, so if I'm

1205
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: like a round twenty here, I'm fine. You know, I

1206
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: still got a lot of cards up my sleeve. So

1207
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: that's my strategy for what I've ever done one like that.

1208
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes that other receivers. Yeah,

1209
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: think about that one. We're gonna take a break. Oh

1210
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: it's not bad. Yeah, Uh, We're gonna take a break.

1211
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. Are coverage here

1212
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio throughout the playoffs, brought to you

1213
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: by Ford and FedEx. When we come back, we're gonna

1214
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: take a look and see if the Brownies, well, they

1215
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: didn't practice today. That's that's a bit of a problem.

1216
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a problem. We'll see at then.

1217
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there you go. We'll see if they see

1218
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: if they put out an injury report. We'll talk a

1219
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: little more about the game right after this your tunes

1220
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: about drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

1221
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We are back. I'm jail Ali here with

1222
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: Matt Waves and were brought to you by Ford and

1223
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: our friends at fed Express or FedEx. I should say, yeah,

1224
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 1: that's what it means. Anyways, the Browns injury report out

1225
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: for today. UH offensive tackle Jack Conklin with a knee

1226
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: injury was limited. UM offensive tackle Kendall Lamb with an

1227
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: illness was a full participant. He's coming back off the

1228
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: COVID list, I believe, thank yous um. Defensive end Miles

1229
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: Garrett with a shoulder issue was a full participant today,

1230
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: but he's dealing with something. Jarvis Landry with the hip injury,

1231
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: a full participant. He's been dealing with that all year.

1232
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: UH wide receiver Donovan People's Jones with the concussion did

1233
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: not practice. That's not a good sign. For him because

1234
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: you want him to at least have been back on

1235
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: the practice field today. Um, he's done. I think he

1236
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: was a seventh round pick, but he was a five

1237
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: star recruit at Michigan, superstar combine guy, and he has

1238
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's some big places made, he made some plays,

1239
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: and he's he's our main return guy. Yeah right too,

1240
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: he's a deep threat to I mean Landry is not

1241
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna really do that, So that's a that's a bit

1242
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: of a loss. Uh. Defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson with an

1243
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: neck was limited. Okay, I didn't know if there's anything

1244
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: wrong with him. But cornerback M. J. Stewart, who had

1245
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: the interception, uh, it was limited with a calf injury. Okay.

1246
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean their cornerback situations just they need everybody they

1247
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: can get right now. Absolutely, guard Wyatt Teller with an

1248
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: ankle was limited. I mean he was dealing with that

1249
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 1: one in the last week. Yeah. Cornerback to Varrier Thomas

1250
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: uh was with an abdomen he was full, and the

1251
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: center J. C. Treader with a knee issue was limited.

1252
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: So but pretty much three of the four off three

1253
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: other five offensive lineman and one of the and the

1254
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: fourth guy is on the COVID list, right, that too, Yeah,

1255
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: good point too. Is not going to play. Yeah, those

1256
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: limited guys, I'm sure they'll play, but I mean did

1257
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: they get to try? Really? The only the only starting

1258
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: lineman who practice fully today was worse except they hadn't practice, right, Yeah,

1259
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he would have been the only

1260
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: one on the list that's not That's totally clear. It's

1261
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: not the best thing to deal with when you know

1262
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: you're playing the Steelers and cam into it and watting

1263
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: all these guys healthy and rested up and right there

1264
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: and to go. Yeah. I mean it's a really good line.

1265
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: But they're gonna be tested, and steel has gotten better

1266
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: than them before. Yeah, I thought it was interesting today.

1267
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: We talked to Kim Hayward and he said, throughout the

1268
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: course of the game on Sunday, he and t J, what,

1269
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: we're texting each other back and forth with little ideas

1270
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: about different things. Yeah, neither one of them were playing.

1271
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: I had to think about that too when he when

1272
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: he said, and I'm like, yeah, but they're both sitting

1273
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: in their houses watching the games and they're texting stuff

1274
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: to TM said he was taking notes and he and

1275
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: t J were texting back and forth on an interesting dynamic. Yeah,

1276
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, right, like Ben's his kids on his lap,

1277
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: and that's why I asked I actually asked Ben that

1278
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: we'll hear the interview in the next second. You know

1279
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: what he did, and he said he was watching the

1280
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: game from from his house with his family, and his

1281
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: son kept questioning, Hey, why dad, why did they do this?

1282
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: Or why do they do that? Or good. He's like,

1283
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, buddy, I'm not there. Well, he's reading

1284
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: the safety and maybe he's a prodigy who knows that.

1285
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: That's an interesting dynamic. I mean, hey, d J, you

1286
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: would have whiped him on that layer. Yeah, oh man,

1287
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: you get you gotta set that edge a little better

1288
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: there on that or you know those kind of things along. Well, yeah,

1289
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: it would be an interesting I'd love to can see

1290
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: that that conversation via text. Yeah, so it's got it

1291
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: should be interesting. Uh. Of course again with the Steelers

1292
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: was Chris Boswell was limited, Stephen Nelson with a knee

1293
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: was limited, Terrell Edmonds back as a full participant, and

1294
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: then Tyson A. Lou Lou with an ankle did not practice.

1295
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: Vince Williams with a quad did not practice. Those guys

1296
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: played a lot of snaps on Sunday. You just take

1297
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: it easy on like, hey, we would have loved to

1298
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 1: have arrested you in this game, but you know exactly,

1299
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: it's just impossible to do it. Get everybody. Um, if

1300
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: last week was a playoff game, do you think Bobs

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01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: would have played there? Yeah? I mean he was limited

1302
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: last week, so there's a there's a going on. Yeah,

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think Edmonds would have played. Okay, that was

1304
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: actually my next question. Okay, so and I think there's

1305
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more faith now and right than there was.

1306
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: You know, if I don't love his kickoffs, you know,

1307
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a big leger, but he put the

1308
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: ball through the As Mike Tomlins said Tuesday, his main

1309
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: job is to put the ball through the through the uprights,

1310
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: and he did that, and that that Yeah, I mean

1311
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you try him out there for the

1312
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: game winner. If it's fourth and one from the from

1313
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: the you know, fifty one yard field goal, you're not

1314
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna try it. But he did make two forty six

1315
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: yards and they kickoff things a big deal. Absolutely have

1316
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: it in your in your if you don't have a

1317
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: driver in your bag and you need it, and hey,

1318
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: we want to kick this one out of the end

1319
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: zone because you can't do a dangerous turner or whatever.

1320
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna get the ball in their hands. Yeah. That

1321
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: that to me. I mean when when people were asking

1322
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: about after the game, will they could, you know he could.

1323
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna kick in the NFLS next year somewhere, I'm like,

1324
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: not unless he gets stronger. Right, that's a hard thing.

1325
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you go sixteen games, I'll be with no

1326
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: touchbacks or very few. Yeah. I mean maybe in a

1327
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: dome he can get away with it, or in a

1328
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: warm weather city, yeah, but you're not getting away with

1329
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: that in the Northeast or the Midwest. Uh In, once

1330
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: it October comes and the ball is not flying quite

1331
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: as far at good point, And it's not like Couardoroll.

1332
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: Patterson is unique. There's a lot of the really good

1333
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: returners out there. But if you play the Bears and

1334
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: they have cordial Patterson, I don't want him to don't

1335
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: want to kick kick. I don't want him getting the

1336
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: ball to five with a running start. Are you kidding me? Absolutely? Like,

1337
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers special teams took a little bit

1338
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: of a hit and those we talked about the Football

1339
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: Outsiders rankings because they're starting field position and two of

1340
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: the last three games for the for the opposing team

1341
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: was not as good. They're getting the ball out at

1342
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: the thirty the thirty five, because that's not on the

1343
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: coverage unit. That's when the guy kicking the ball, he

1344
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: kicks a line drive that you know, or kicks one

1345
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: that you know. When he does get one in high

1346
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: in the air, it comes down at the ten or say,

1347
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: like a line drive, and it beats your coverage down

1348
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: there because no humans. There was a there was a

1349
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: kick on Sunday where I made note of it where

1350
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: he kicked off and it was it was a line

1351
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: drive and it was deeper. You know, his first kickoff

1352
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: it came down around to ten. Well, he kicked one.

1353
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: It came down around the two, but it was a

1354
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: line drive. And I looked and the Steelers, the Steelers

1355
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: Ridge guys were still at the forty. That's not good. Yeah.

1356
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: It shocked me when I was doing this for a

1357
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: living with teams, how much a stop watches a special

1358
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 1: team's coaches bestutely. I mean on long snaps, on punts.

1359
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: How quick is it. How quick do you get rid

1360
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: of the ball? How much hang time do you get?

1361
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: It's almost like the forty four or four verse of

1362
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: four two. I mean it's a big I mean, if

1363
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: you're if you're hang time when your kickoffs is only like,

1364
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, one point eight seconds, you can run the

1365
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: fastest forty if you know you could have over right, right, Um,

1366
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: speaking of coverage, I want to throw this out there too.

1367
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: It's probably a flash in the pan. But Ray Raves

1368
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: bothered me a little bit later. But yeah, since he's

1369
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: since the fumble against the Ravens, he's not been the

1370
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: same guy, right, I mean you can kind of see

1371
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: why he's maybe bounced around the league a little bit,

1372
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, and there's still a lot of ability there.

1373
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: I think he's been a good addition to the team,

1374
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: but I think he's a confidence factor once you put

1375
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: one on the ground there. And I don't really need

1376
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: to see him on offense anymore either, don't need to know.

1377
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: I've not needed to see that for a long long time.

1378
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: But he's guaranteed me back next year. No, you can always.

1379
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Those guys are always you're always looking anyways, he is

1380
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. We're gonna take a

1381
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we'll hear from Ben Roethlisberger.

1382
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: Are ongoing coverage here throughout the playoffs brought to you

1383
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: by Ford in fed X. You are two weeks about

1384
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: drive on home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1385
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: We are Back's an ongoing coverage here of the Steelers

1386
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: playoffs are brought to you by Ford and our friends

1387
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: of fed X and Matt. We talked to Ben Roethlisberger

1388
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: earlier to day. He had a lot to say. Of course,

1389
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: didn't play last week against the Cleveland Browns, but watched

1390
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: the game and from home. He said he would have

1391
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: been a little different if he had known who the

1392
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: opponent was going to be, if he knew that they

1393
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: were going to pay He didn't know. Um, he didn't

1394
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: want to take notes on something that you know, maybe

1395
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm playing Browns pretty well at this point, absolutely, but uh,

1396
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to get that. I want to

1397
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: get what to what Roethlisberger had to say. So here's

1398
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: what Ben had to say with the assembled media earlier today.

1399
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: One second, first, one day. I'll lolly go ahead, Hey, Ben,

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering while you were sitting at home home

1401
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: watching the game. Uh, did you find yourself boats taking

1402
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: mental notes? How did that work for you? Yeah? I

1403
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: mean I enjoyed watching the game, um, not as much

1404
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: as playing in it, but it was you know, I

1405
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: sat at home watching with my family. I followed, my

1406
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: son asked me a question every single place. So I

1407
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: felt like I was really extra engaged in it. Um.

1408
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was you know, watching it within

1409
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: the knowledge that potentially we could play them again, right,

1410
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: but um, you know, not knowing what opponent was gonna be,

1411
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: I would have loved them known early on that it

1412
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: was them, But I definitely watched it close. One second,

1413
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: we're in just the audio real quick. Okay, well get

1414
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: back on the questioning here. We're gonna have bird sit

1415
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: here and see if you guys notice a difference right next.

1416
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: It would be funny like I did the next question Markboli,

1417
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: go ahead and been. Uh, you haven't been to the

1418
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years, haven't won once since I

1419
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: can't see them. I believe when you go into this,

1420
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: do you ever ever think that, hey, this might be

1421
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,480
Speaker 1: my last run into running the title running the championship.

1422
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: Do you ever think of something like that? I mean,

1423
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: I think every player should approach, uh, this playoff game

1424
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: like it could be their last playoff game ever. Um.

1425
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: We've used examples of players and coaches that have been

1426
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: in this league for a long time that have never

1427
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: been in the postseason, never been to a super Bowl,

1428
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So I think it's prudent for

1429
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: every player to take that mindset and that approach. And

1430
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: I know I am, because nothing's guaranteed in this game,

1431
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: or this or this world. Yeah, been kind of along

1432
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: those lines that players only meeting that you had. I

1433
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: know that you emphasized it wasn't about the current state

1434
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: of the team, is about preparing for this moment, for

1435
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. How have you seen those young receivers respond,

1436
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: particularly that group that as a whole doesn't have a

1437
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: ton of playoff experience, and did they kind of take

1438
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: heed and what you were saying going into this week. Well,

1439
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: I'd like to break some news here first, especially since

1440
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: you asked the question. Brooke, we had another one today,

1441
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: so I'm sure we will love that. Um, But no,

1442
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: I think guys, I think guys, did did you know

1443
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: took it to heart. I hope they did. I mean

1444
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: that that was the sole intention, was just to let

1445
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: guys know that, UM, you know, it's like we do

1446
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: every year about this time where we're if we're getting

1447
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: ready to get into the postseason or the last couple

1448
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: of games of the season, just how important every game is,

1449
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: every play is, um, every rep and practice and so UM.

1450
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: I felt like today was another time that we could

1451
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: have re emphasize that and just let people know, um,

1452
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: how special it really is. Half the team, half the

1453
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL aren't aren't playing this week. So

1454
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: it's just it's an honor to have the opportunity. Hey

1455
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: Ben Uh, I'm just curious, good morning. How significant do

1456
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: you think it is or would it be if you

1457
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: didn't have the guy who calls your offensive plays all

1458
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: the you know, every game all season, all of a

1459
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: sudden he's not there. Wellkod morning, Jerry, I hope you're

1460
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: not driving and faced stopped. Thank you be safe? Please? UM,

1461
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think it. I think it's a big deal.

1462
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: I would think so. I mean it's there's there's something

1463
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: you said about that kind of comfort blanket. There's something

1464
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: to be said about that guy that you have the

1465
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: relationship with it's calling the plays, and I don't know

1466
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: up there how much there O C is involved in

1467
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: and and those kind of things. You know. Some some places, Um,

1468
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: they're see quarterback coach, all those guys kind of do

1469
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: everything and then the play caller whoever it is, just

1470
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 1: kind of calls it in. So I'm not sure exactly

1471
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: how they do it up there, but UM, it would

1472
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: to me it would be a big deal not to

1473
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: have UM coach Randy on game day in my ear,

1474
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: Joe Rotter, Yeah, Ben, Um, the last time you guys

1475
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: had a playoff game was here two thousand seventeen at home,

1476
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 1: you were favorite. Um is that something you can a

1477
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: trap that you can maybe avoid getting into this year?

1478
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: The fact that your favorite again playing at home. Well, listen,

1479
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: you know you can say traps. It's that it's the playoffs.

1480
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as someone's favorite, someone's not favorite.

1481
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe in all that. Um. This is the

1482
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: postseason where every team wants it just as bad as

1483
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: the next team. Um. It's interesting because is there really

1484
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: a home field advantage? Um? You know, I don't know. Um,

1485
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's just a different year altogether. You know,

1486
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: we have to go into it with with the mindset that

1487
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: we need to play with best football and the we're

1488
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna get their best Jim Colony. Yeah, Ben, Obviously the

1489
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: Indianapolis game turned around quite a bit when you've got

1490
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: Claypool involved, and then he was a big part of

1491
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: the offense last week as well. How important is it

1492
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: for you to get him involved early? Well, it's important.

1493
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: It's important that we get everybody involved though early, you know.

1494
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot of playmakers. We've got

1495
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can do some special things

1496
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: for us. He definitely is one of them. So um,

1497
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, we in order for us to be successfuls

1498
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: in offense, we need everybody to contribute, contribute early and often.

1499
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: Did you think of Bold? Ben? Happy New Year? I

1500
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: asked you early in the season how throwing is different,

1501
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: how doing your job is different, and you said you

1502
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: have to use more of your body than you ever

1503
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: did before, having a week's rest for your legs. How

1504
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: does that translate? Can you just like talk us through

1505
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: the process of throwing? And I'm sorry, I have to ask,

1506
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: what are the questions that your son asks you better

1507
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: than ours. It's no. You guys are the best question askers.

1508
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I know happened here to you? Um? Yeah, he he

1509
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: is very Um, he's very involved. Why but this question

1510
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: like why they call that, why they throw it there? Why?

1511
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of just I don't know, buddy,

1512
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But in terms of the rest and the

1513
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: time off, I feel it. I mean, my my legs

1514
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: feel a lot better, my knees feel feel fresher. I

1515
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: haven't thrown a football other than throwing in the house

1516
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: with them, um, And so you know, I'm gonna do

1517
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: it more today. As a Wednesday typically obviously is a

1518
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of a day off, but today I'm gonna do

1519
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: more than half of practice, I'm sure, Um, just to

1520
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: kind of get back into the groove of it. And

1521
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: so I've I've enjoyed these last couple of days. Um

1522
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: to let my body, especially this time of the year,

1523
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: kind of get back. Will grays hey ben Um Mike Tea.

1524
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tea yesterday mentioned that they're expanding protocols of available testing,

1525
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: et cetera for players and their families. I'm curious is

1526
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: your family taking advantage of that? Are you change you

1527
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: mentioned already mentioned some of the behaviors that you've changed

1528
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: this year just to kind of be safe for you

1529
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: doing anything extra beyond that for the playoffs. Our house

1530
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 1: is so on a lot and we go absolutely no where.

1531
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: My wife is crazy the kids that she's teaching the kids,

1532
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we are so above and beyond careful and

1533
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: those kind of things, and so um it's it's a

1534
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: sacrifice that I mean, all of us have had to

1535
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: sacrifice during this time. We all know that around the world, really,

1536
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: but um, I think the special kudos and love need

1537
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: to go to our family members, the ones that have sacrificed.

1538
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean, the kids don't get to have normal birthday parties,

1539
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: they don't get to have normal Christmas, Thanksgiving all those things.

1540
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: And for us as adults, we can kind of understand it,

1541
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: and but for our kids, it's it's really hard to

1542
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: explain to your kids why they can't see grandma and

1543
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: grandpa and they can't um, you know, see their cousins

1544
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: and things like that. So it's been a tough, tried

1545
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: time for everybody. UM. I keep telling my my wife

1546
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: and the kids and my my relatives. At that light

1547
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnels is getting bigger. Um,

1548
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: But it's just been it's been. It's been a tough

1549
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: time for everybody. We're all trying to make the most

1550
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: of it, right, Hey, Ben, do you get a kick

1551
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: out of looking around at the playoffs and seeing Brady

1552
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 1: and Breeze, Rivers, yourself, and you know, just the fact

1553
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: that all you guys are still playing at a high

1554
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: level and you know getting the job done, all the

1555
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: old guys. Um, I know you didn't want to use

1556
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: those words, but I'll say it for you. Um, it is,

1557
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: it's cool. I mean, it's it's fun to be a

1558
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: part of it with them. Um. You know, obviously, if

1559
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: if we were sitting at home and people are talking

1560
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: about the old guys that are still playing, why aren't

1561
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: you a part of it? That you'd be disappointed. But

1562
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, to to to be

1563
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: in this kind of tournament, as coach calls it, Um,

1564
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: it's an honor and it's it's it's a pleasure to

1565
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: be able to do it. And I'm I'm hoping that

1566
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: it's not one and done. You know, we're gonna give

1567
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: everything we have so that I could be the last

1568
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: old man standing. Maybe let's welcome ed Buchette go ahead, WHOA. Well,

1569
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: what been the change um to a short passing game

1570
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: from the get go? This year was so dramatic after

1571
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: watching you all these years, What was that? Why was

1572
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: that put in place? And when did you realize you

1573
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: probably had to get out of it a little bit? Well?

1574
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: I think it was put in for multiple reasons. I

1575
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: think you've got when you've got playmakers UM on the outside,

1576
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: you want to get in their hand quick um. Sometimes

1577
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: it's a it's a way to pick up the pace

1578
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: of an offense. Right you got even sending the ball

1579
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: fifty six yards downfield, guys can get back to the

1580
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage faster. Obviously line doesn't have to protect

1581
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: quite as long um you can avoid blitz is with

1582
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 1: the balls coming out. So there's a lot of different

1583
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: things and that that you can attribute to why we've

1584
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: done it. And I don't think that we're gonna get

1585
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: away from it. I just think that we we know

1586
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: when the time is right, we gotta take our shots

1587
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: down the field, like we saw last week. But it

1588
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we need to revamp our our offense. What

1589
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: we've what we've done is we've been successful. We've won

1590
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot of football games this year doing it, and

1591
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: so we'll do it, but we'll we'll also take our

1592
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: calculator risk down the field. Jenna Harner. Then you kind

1593
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: of touched on it a little bit earlier. What a

1594
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of your young guys on offense haven't been on

1595
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: this stage before. What is your message what are some

1596
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: of the other veterans kind of saying to these guys

1597
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: as you ramp up here this week? Yeah, I was

1598
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: talking to Juju this morning, um, and I didn't realize

1599
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the only time he's been in the playoffs was that

1600
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: Jaguar game his rookie year, and so, um, there are

1601
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that that don't understand what

1602
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 1: it's about. And I get it because when I was

1603
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: a young guy and people try to explain to me that,

1604
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: you know, take advantage of this and that, this, that

1605
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: and the other. You're thinking, I'm young, I'll get back,

1606
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: but it's not guaranteed. And so um, really, I think

1607
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: all the veteran guys, as we're winding down our careers,

1608
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: understand that we don't know what's next, if there's going

1609
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: to be a next for some guys, and so now

1610
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: we want to make the most of this opportunity, and

1611
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: we just keep trying to tell those guys and emphasizing

1612
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: to them how important this time is. Anthony, just schools

1613
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: key and then you've been in twenty one postseason games

1614
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: in your career, but this is even uncharted territory for

1615
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: you to be playing, uh Sunday. And I last thing

1616
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: capacity crowd like hines Field, like the rest of the

1617
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: stands will be as the playoffs go on. UM knowing

1618
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: that is that an advantage? Is that a disadvantage that

1619
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: there isn't gonna be a pactize that there won't be

1620
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: that atmosphere. I hate it for the fans, um, you know,

1621
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: because I think about what hines Field would be like

1622
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Oh man, it would be. I mean, just

1623
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: anyone that's been there knows how special it would be.

1624
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: So I hate it for them, Um. I hate it

1625
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: for the for the home for for the Steelers and

1626
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: the energy and excitement and all that that it brings. Um.

1627
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: But once again, that's what we're doing and that's what

1628
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: we're living in. And that's why I wonder how much

1629
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: home field is gonna play play into it, which is

1630
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: the other question I brought to coach Tomlin. Is you

1631
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: know in the competition committee, have they talked about that

1632
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: why some states are gonna allow a lot more fans

1633
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: than others? Is that fair? Is it not fair? How

1634
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: does it make it equal? So it's a lot of

1635
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: unanswered questions, but that's what the year we're living in.

1636
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: For a few more Chris and Damski. Then you said

1637
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: you were watching, you enjoyed watching Sunday's game. What did

1638
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: you think of Mason? And you not now, not next year,

1639
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: and maybe not even in Pittsburgh, But do you see

1640
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: do you think Mason is a starting quarterback in the

1641
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: NFL somewhere at some point? Yeah? I do, uh, And

1642
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I've felt that even before that game. Um, you know,

1643
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: it didn't take him going out there and playing well

1644
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: for me to feel that way. I thought he played well.

1645
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I thought he he handled the pocket well, he made

1646
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: some obviously some great throws down the field, um, and

1647
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: gave us a real chance to win that football game.

1648
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: And so um, he's just showing um kind of the

1649
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: rest of the world. But we've already seen here. Yeah.

1650
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: But then I know it's been a while, but your

1651
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 1: first playoff game, what do you remember about the preparation

1652
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: for you going into it, your mental state, and were

1653
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: there any guys that maybe pulled you aside to get

1654
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: you ready the way that you've been trying to pass

1655
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: that on to the younger guys this year. Yeah, we

1656
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: had a player's only meeting, um and and talked about

1657
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: you know a lot of those things, and so um,

1658
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: you know, I just remember just kind of being a whirlwind,

1659
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, trying, you know, telling myself, don't screw it

1660
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: up for these veterans. Do everything you can to to

1661
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: just to play good enough to help your you win.

1662
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: And so um, you know, that's one of the messages

1663
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: I preached these guys is no one has to be great.

1664
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: You just have to be good, because when we're all good,

1665
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Speaker 1: then we're great together. Okay, Clear if I was that,

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01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: was that a player's only meeting that you're talking about

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01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: that you just had, or one that you had before

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01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: your first playoff game, before the first playoff game. Okay,

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01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Matt Ben when you were watching the game on Sunday,

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01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: you saw Josh Dobbs come into the game on a

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01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,520
Speaker 1: couple of occasions. Mike Tomlin has not dismissed the possibility

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01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: of him continuing maybe to make an appearance here or

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: there in the playoff game. How would you feel about that? Well, yeah,

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01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I thought Josh did a great job too with with

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01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: his with his handful of plays and and kind of

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01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: sacrifice his body on a couple of them too. Um,

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01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, took some shots and whatnot. So UM, I

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01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: think that's the cool part is that no one knows

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01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: who's gonna start this game to quarterback. We've got three options. Um,

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01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: So that that's gonna be the fun part. I'm all

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01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: for it. I literally will do whatever it takes to

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01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: win this football game. Um. And so you never know

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01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see. Final one. Jenna Lane, Hey Ben,

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01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I covered the Bucks for ESPN. UM. I know that

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01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: you've spent a lot of time with Bruce arians off

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01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: the field. Tom Brady really hasn't had that opportunity because

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01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 1: of COVID and things like that. So my question for

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01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: you is what does he get to look forward to

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01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: when those two finally do get to spend time together

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: off the field. And I didn't know if maybe you

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01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: had a favorite memory or memories with b a in

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01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: his family that you'd like to share. He's gonna get

1693
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: to look forward to. Um, golf, Um, a lot of laughs. Um,

1694
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: and you know other things that BA enjoy is doing, Um,

1695
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: having a couple of drinks or two. But no, it's

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01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Uh. It's really fun because I've enjoyed

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01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: being around b A on the golf course. One because

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01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: he's a good golfer and we um, you know we

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01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: match up well. But too because he's been around football

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01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: for so long. He's got so many stories. UM, and

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01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I love going like digging into his passage when he

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01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: played quarterback. Um, those are some of my my most

1703
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: fun stories because I can I can kind of get

1704
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: him going and get him fired up about when he

1705
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: played quarterback in this, that and the other. So he'll

1706
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: he'll get a lot of stories and a lot of golf.

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01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. That was Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger

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01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: with the media earlier today. Lots of interesting stuff there

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01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: from Ben, and he is ready and raring to go

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01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: for this one. Rested up and said, the knees feel

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01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: great and the body feels great, and that's what you want.

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01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: That's where you want him to be at because early

1713
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: in the season when everything was feeling really good, he

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01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: was playing really good. Yeah, I think the rest is

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01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna do him an awful lot of good. And maybe

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01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: it's not something we can just pinpoint, but I'm sure

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01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: his lower body was a little rickety, and it says,

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01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: you know, earth rightI is, you know, the pounding of

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01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: of fifteen NFL games on on your thirty eight year

1720
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,759
Speaker 1: old knees that are really fifty eight year old knees.

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01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 1: At this point, you're you know, you know, think about

1722
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Namath at the end was not pretty,

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01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: but you can still win games. And Roethlisberger is nowhere

1724
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: near that bad no, but he's you know, lumbers. Yeah. Sure,

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna do it for our show today. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back again tomorrow. We'd like to thank Bob Labriola

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Speaker 1: for stopping by, as he always does on Wednesdays. Of course,

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Speaker 1: from my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob here on site,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.