1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: It is one o five on Wall Street, and that 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: means it is time for Dave Wilson and the market 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: drivers report with the focus is always at this time 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: on American depository receipts, and Dave Wilson got to be 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: looking at Trivago, oh absolutely in an e d rs 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: are and as it happened, sort of bouncing around a bit. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: UH the SNP A d R index will change, while 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: the SMP five hundreds down to tents of a percent. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: But Germany's Triviago is up five point six percent after 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: selling two hundred and eighty seven million dollars of ad 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: rs in an initial public offering. The size and price 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: of the travel sites I p O we're actually reduced 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: before the sale was done. Triviago majority owned by the 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: US online travel agency Expedia. UH. Swiss drug maker act 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Hellion is up thirteen percent. People with knowledge of the 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: matters that Francis Santa Fee is an advanced talks to 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: buy the company Johnson. Johnson walked away from a twenty 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: eight billion dollar deal for Actillion on Tuesday, and Air 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: France KLEM has risen five point eight percent. The airline's 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: KLM unit dropped the plan to set up a replacement 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: pension fund for its pilots. The pilots union had opposed 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: the move, and the court blocked it two weeks ago. Now, 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Japan's Nintendo has fallen seven and a half percent, even 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: though its first mobile game ranked first on best seller 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: lists in sixty eight countries. The game is called Super 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Mario Brothers, and one thing that concerns analysts is that 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: it requires users to pay ten dollars to move beyond 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: the first three levels. Charlie, all right, thank you very much, 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Dave Wilson. Following a d RS force the DAL the 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: SMP nez dak all trading Laura recapping the SMP down 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: four to twenty two fifty seven to drop there of 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: two tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pelots and that 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: June Grosso and Greg Store is a Bloomberg business flash. 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Charlie, see you in court. That may be the 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: response of Democratic attorneys general across the country if the 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: Trump administration backs off of financial, environmental or antitrust regulations. 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Former Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, now Texas governor, made 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: a business of suing the Obama administration with more than 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: forty lawsuits. Virginia and Florida, a g s filed dozens 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: of lawsuits. Several Democratic attorneys general are on record as 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: ready to take Trump to court if he crosses the 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: constitutional line. New York AG Eric Schneiderman already sued over 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: Trump University, and he's reassured New Yorkers who have seen 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a rise in the number of hate crimes in the 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: state in the past year after the quote ugliness of 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: the rhetoric during the campaign. As New York's top law 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: enforcement officer, I stand here today to tell everyone was 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: understandably scared that my tent team stands with you, with 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: our colleagues and law enforcement across the state, and we 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: will have your back. And California's new attorney general, Congress 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: Congressman Javier Bsara, has dared Trump to come at us 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: over some of the most liberal state policies in the country. 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: He spoke about the parameters for protecting the state's progressive 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: values on MSNBC a week ago. We're not going to stop, 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and we're not interested in having folks try to stop us. 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: Will look at the Constitution of the United States, and 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: we'll look at our California constitution and recognize that, as 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: any other state, we will do whatever the u. S. 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: Constitution allows us to do to protect our people and 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: advance our interests. Our guest today are James Tierney, the 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: former Attorney general of Maine and a lecture at Harvard 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Law School, and Paul Millette, a professor of political science 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: at Marquette University. Jim Republicans have used the argument that 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: states serve as a check on federal overreach as gospel 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: for the past eight years. Will the legal tactics they 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: used help democratic ages in the next four years? Well, 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I think it will help. And it's any general who's 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: worried about federal overreach. I wouldn't assume, as some of 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the latest suppress has been that Republican attorneys general are 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: are somehow turned themselves into the him made of the 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Trump administration. I don't think that's true. Every age will 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: protect their state's position in the world of sovereignty and 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: they'll protect the state laws. Um. So yeah, they're all watching. 74 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: There's no question they're all watching. What are they going 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: to do? Well, we have to wait and see, Paul, 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: as you look over the legal landscape, and of course 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what the Trump administration is going 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: to do. But where do you think democratic state attorney 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: general's attorneys general are likely to have the biggest impact? 80 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Is that filling in the regulatory gaps? Is that challenging, say, 81 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: environmental regulations. Where do you see them making a mark? Well, 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: I think, just in terms of pure quantity of litigation, 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I think the one of the big focal points will 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: be definitely an environmental policy um and so at the 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: beginning of the Trump administration, I think it will be 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: some continuing skirmishes over some of Obama's regulatory efforts like 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the Clean Power Plan, the Waters of the US Rule, 88 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and other things like that. But I think throughout the 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Trump administration I would expect to see quite a lot 90 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: of wrangling over um de regulatory efforts coming out of 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: the e p A and UH potentially a variety of 92 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: other new environmental issues coming out of out of the 93 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: next few years as well. And I would just add 94 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 1: that I think part of it will be going after 95 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the FEDS directly, so suing the e p A, trying 96 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: to delay or stop deregulatory efforts, but some of it 97 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: will also potentially be going after say utilities or industry 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: in general kind of similar to what some AGS have 99 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: done UM investigating Exxon over the past year and their 100 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: connection to UM climate research and potentially UM you know, 101 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: sweeping some of that research under the rug. So I 102 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: see those areas being particularly prominent areas for egs in 103 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: the coming years, Jim, any other hot button areas were 104 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: democratic ages have the best chance of winning, well, I 105 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: think I think, you know, my friend Paul makes some 106 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: good points, but he, I'm sure would say that a 107 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of that sort of speculation. As this point, we 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: we really don't know. UM. I think ages are going 109 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: to be very focused on criminal justice reform, and we 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the Trump administration's position will be. All 111 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: ages are against hate crime, UM, and we'll you know, 112 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: we'll roll up to sleeves on that to try to 113 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: make our communities feel safe. I think dealing with an 114 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: increasingly diverse population that we have in this country, if 115 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: you're in a G is pretty important. I mean, what 116 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: kids are in school, what about witnesses in court? What 117 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: about victims of crime? UM? A lot of these things, 118 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: don't you know, don't pay attention to some of these 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: legal status in the country. So I see a lot 120 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: of diversity related issues, which are which which are here now, 121 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: and they're not going to go away. That's why I'm 122 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: not really kind of predicting. Um. You know, I think 123 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I think former CIA director Robert Gates made a good 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: point yesterday when he said, you know, people say one 125 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: things in campaigns, they act a lot differently once you're 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: in office. And I think that all ages, and democratic 127 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: ages in particular, are certainly willing to give the Trump 128 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: administration the chance to see what they're really going to do. Um. 129 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: He does come in personally with a bad rep from 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: his Trump University days. Every attorney Dan will look at 131 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: that case and was pretty disturbed by the behavior of 132 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Trump University. That was none of the partisan issue. Uh, 133 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: So they disturbed. He's on everybody's watching list. Uh and 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe the attorneys general are looking particularly closely. But we'll 135 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: have to wait to see what happens. Paul, granting Jim's 136 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: point that some of this is speculative, you know what 137 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned the environments, and that is one area where 138 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: his nominee nominee to up the e p A is 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: somebody who one would expect to be more favorable to industry. 140 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Will it be is easy for Democratic ages to challenge 141 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: uh deregulation in the environmental sphere as it was for 142 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: Republicans to challenge what they considered to be over regulation 143 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: from the e p A. Well, it's a little tricky 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: because I guess you could give an answer both yes 145 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: and no. They're I mean, I think on the on 146 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the side that it's a little bit harder. UM. I 147 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: think part of it is, you know, depending on what 148 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress do, like, for instance, that they amend 149 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: the Clean Air Act to actually take some of the 150 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: power away from the e p A to say, regulate 151 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: greenhouse gases, then it's going to be very difficult for 152 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Democratic A g s to try to challenge um, the 153 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: EPA and court if they say, hey, look, Congress has 154 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: taken away our ability to even regulate in this area. UM. 155 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: One thing that I think democratic ages or maybe just 156 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: A g s in general, do have though, is if 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: they are concerned that the e p A other agencies 158 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: are not regulating properly, they can number one to the agency, 159 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: but they can also go after, you know, utilities that 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: they think are are polluting beyond the the what's acceptable 161 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: under federal environmental law or state environmental laws, and so 162 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: in one way, I think though they'll still have avenues 163 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: to hold that thought. Ye. Coming up on Bloomberg law. 164 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's business interests are under fire as possible conflicts 165 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: of interest, and one hotel in particular seems to be 166 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: drawing the most attention. I'm June Grosso with Greg Store. 167 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Mobile Business News twenty four hours a 168 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: day at Bloomberg dot com. The radio blows mobile line 169 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and on your radio is a Bloomberg business left from 170 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg World Headquarters. Signed Charlie Pelotadal The SMPT and stack 171 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: all declining right now. 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One area of President elect Donald Trump's 189 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: business interests that seems to be drawing concentrated fire from 190 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Democrats is the sixty year lease between the federal government 191 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: and the Trump International Hotel in Washington, d C. According 192 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: to a December fourteenth letter from four House Democrats, a 193 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: top official of the General Services Administration, which leas's government buildings, 194 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: told their staff that Trump will be in violation of 195 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the lease agreement the moment he takes office unless he 196 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: fully divests himself. Congressman A. Logic Cummings was one of 197 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: those Democrats and accused Trump of ignoring four decades of 198 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: White House president on conflicts of interest. This is the 199 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: same advice to the Department of Justice and the Office 200 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: of Government Ethics has provided to every president over the 201 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: past four decades. G s A announced it does not 202 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: have a position on the lease provision, and Trump Transition 203 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: aids said the g s A lease issue will be 204 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: addressed in January. We've been talking with j Hims Tierney, 205 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: the former Attorney General of Maine and a lecture at 206 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: Harvard Law School, and Paul let, a political science professor 207 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: at Marquette University. Jim the least forbids elected officials from 208 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: being party to the deal or receiving any of it 209 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: of its benefits. Does that seem like a clear contract 210 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: issue that has to be resolved before the inauguration or 211 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: can this slide as other conflicts seem to be sliding. Well, well, 212 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: of course it should be resolved. It has to be resolved. 213 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I think if the g s A says they're going 214 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: to address that, they will. They're competent, their career people, 215 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: and and you know, he's you know, I don't know 216 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump ever thought he was gonna win, but 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: he did, and so now he's got a host of 218 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: business issues. I think they're gonna be popping up all 219 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: over the place, and he's gonna have to figure out 220 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: his ethics and his complex as he goes along. But 221 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: he wants he's going to be the president. He can't 222 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: just do what he wants. Um, we all live by 223 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: the rules, So he's gonna have to learn how to 224 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: do that. I want to pick it off a little bit. 225 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: That that what Paul said earlier. Um, he certainly is 226 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: accurate when he said this could happen, This could happen, 227 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: This could happen. But let me make something clear, because 228 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: we have a lot of listeners, a lot of business people, 229 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: Attorneys general, especially democratic attorneys general, are not here lined 230 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: up to try to stop every de regulatory effort that 231 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is going to be carried out. This 232 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: is very important. Presidents when they get to administer, they 233 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: get to they get the great deference by our courts 234 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: and by other elected officials. That's our democracy. Uh And 235 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I think, um so so. But if there's evidence, if 236 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: there's a good case, if there are facts, if they 237 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: are statistics, there are clear violation, of course, attorneys general 238 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: are going to respond. And I think that's what General 239 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: Bush era General Sneiderman said that the you know at 240 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Um, So I just want 241 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: to make that clear. I mean, it's not like the 242 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: ages of the line. They've got a lot of things 243 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: to do rather than line up and you know, sue 244 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: every federal agency is. It's an important, important principle that 245 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: has to be law, that has to be facts, has 246 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: to be a clear violation before it gets to the 247 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: top of an age agenda. Paul PAULA may ask you 248 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: to respond to that, But first of me, say, we 249 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: haven't we you know, seen a real change in the 250 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: dynamic of of a state attorney's general over the past 251 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, twenty or thirty years or so, where uh, 252 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, these we've come to expect these challenges from 253 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: attorneys general with an administ a white house they don't 254 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: agree with. But but are we perhaps, as Jim said, 255 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: overstating that that it will necessarily happen this way. One 256 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: thing that's definitely been true over the last ten fifteen years, 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: in particular, is that at least a subset of nationally 258 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: important issues a g s have gotten much more polarized, 259 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, much more willing to um submit amicates briefs 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: and Supreme Court, for instance, on a variety of measures, 261 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: and also to sue federal agencies over a variety of things. 262 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: I think that much is true, But I certainly take 263 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the point that number one, we do have to wait 264 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: and see what happens and what the Trump administration ends 265 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: up doing. But also going back to a point that 266 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: Jim made before, there are still an number of areas 267 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: like criminal justice, in which ages have worked together on 268 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: a bipartisan besis and whether that continues in the next 269 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: administration will be interesting to watch. Well, I think it's 270 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely going to continue. And and while 271 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: and while ages have disagreed, Republicans disagree with the Obama 272 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: administration in some areas, they are regularly, almost every week 273 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: there's a joint federal state settlement of some administration some 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: enforcement case which all fit the AG sign onto. So 275 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's important, especially we have a business 276 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: audience listening that do not be overstated that people feel 277 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: that this is going to be all these extra lawsuits 278 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: flying around all over the place. I think we have 279 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: to wait and see. And we've seen, you know, we 280 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: see send the McCaskill as, the Democrats from Missouri saying 281 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: that she's willing to rethink Obamacare. We see that evidently 282 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: sent a Schumer of New York is having regular conversations 283 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: with the Trump Towers. So I mean, I'm you know, 284 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: look great. Uh, we're not talk about We're gonna have 285 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: to stop you there. We have a lot more to 286 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: talk about and we'll have you both back again. That's 287 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Jim Tierney, the former a G of Maine and lecture 288 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: at Harvard Law School, and Paul Millette, political science professor 289 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: at Marquette. This is Bloomberg