1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Yes, the roster has improved, but where specifically? 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Welcome Bird Gang. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: On today's show, Paul Calvic joins me and joins me 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: for a discussion on where we think the roster has 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: most improved since the end of last season. That's taken 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: into account free agency, the draft, as well as other 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: editions along the way. We'll talk offense and defense, but 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: first we welcome some new additions to the Arizona Cardinals family. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven sixty six, and it 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: starts now. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 4: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: dot com slash podcast. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: He's at a ten half of five. He's it again. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: Some more Hurry magic. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: Whow here's Craig Griol. 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: Gotta start here. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: Paul. 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: By the way, a happy bulleted Father's Day to you 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: and everyone else there as well, because well we have 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: to celebrate fathers, do we not? 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Right back at you. I enjoy the dad jokes. The 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: Cardinals tweeted out some of the players. There were a 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: couple I never heard before. Like I used to be 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: addicted to hokey pokey, but then I turned myself around. 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: I wasn't bad the you know, what do you call 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: a man with no nose and nobody nobody knows? You 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: know what? Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna bring 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: one on my own. Here you go? You ready? I mean, 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, are we ever ready? You know? There there 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: are the dad jokes, but I think really these days 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: the dad jokes get too much attention and the knock 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: knock jokes are overlooked. Craig GRIOLU knock knock? Who's there? 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Europe? 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Europe? Who? 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: No? 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Europe? Woo? Okay, there we go. I got that off 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Yellowstone and the Little Kid a couple of years ago. 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: That was solid. Give me a rim shot something something 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: over here. I'm dying, Paul. 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before this show completely goes off the rail. 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of fathers, we have a brand new father that 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: we need to congratulates. 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: That is Dennis Gardack. Oh. 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: He and his wife welcomed their first child, Cooper Anthony 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Gardick born June tenth, and yes. 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Ber Gang. 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: It was an excuse absence for Mini camp. He was 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: not around and we know why. 52 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, unlike Aaron Rodgers unexcused absences. By the way, I 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: have a theory on Aaron Rodgers real quick, thanks for asking. 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: I believe because the Jets scheduled three joint practices, three 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: joint practices, and they have three games in the first 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: ten days of the season. Aaron Rodgers said, you know what, 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: don't give me the mandatory mini camp. I'm gonna make 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: it voluntary based on what you're doing in August in 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: early September, so I'm giving myself another vacation. But congratulations 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: to Dennis gardak gard Deck the bar bear. Is he 61 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: now gard Deck the domesticated barbarian? Oh? Good question, and 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: we hope not. Come on now on game day you 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: got to be the same barbarian. 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Well, while we're throwing out congratulations, another one goes to 65 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson. Remember Paul during Mini Caamp he mentioned that 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: quote I got something big coming end quote. Well something 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: big was he and longtime girlfriend Sophia Smith got engaged 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: last Friday. So yes, welcome to the Arizona Cardinals family. 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson and Sophia Smith was that's pretty big. 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: I believe it's pretty good offseason for Michael Wilson, pretty 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: pretty good. It pales in comparison. But also over the weekend, 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus listed their all breakout team in the NFL, 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: and Michael Wilson was one of the two receivers on 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: the quote all breakout team. And we know what Kyler 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Murray said recently at his press conference about Michael Wilson, 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: how he fully believes that he will quote go off 77 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: this season. All right. 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I like that because as we touch on what we 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about here on Cardinals Cover two presented 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: by Hundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Jonathan Gannon 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: asked about the roster compared to last year. Very simple quote. 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: I think it's better, and I agree with Jag. The 83 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: question is where is it better? And I believe Paul, 84 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: when you talk about the offensive side, the wide receiver position, 85 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I think is the most improved position. Again, just on offense, 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: when we look at last year compared to this year, Yes, 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: you do lose Hollywood Brown traded Rondell Moore, but you 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: drafted Marvin Harrison junior. It is year two for Michael Wilson, 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and there is size in that wide receiver room for 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. And I do 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: believe that is exactly what Monty, Austin fort On, Jonathan 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Gannon want in their past catchers in the wide receiver room. 93 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: Zay Jones six to two. So you're right they did 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: definitely add sigh. Look, anytime you can add Marvin Harrison Junior, 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: who you're hoping best case scenario is a replica of 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson of Jamar Chase, who both made Pro Bowls 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: as rookies circa twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. There's no 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: reason why you can't have that expectation. I know there's 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: been a few lists out there, and it is the 100 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: list season. There was another one, I think it was 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: ESPN dot Com and the top ten rookies who figure 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: to make the biggest impact, and they had Roma Dunzay 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: on there. Well, that's great, and I'm not diminishing Roma 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Dunay's skill set, but he also has Keenan Allen and 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: DJ Moore ahead of him. Marvin Harrison Junior. Hello, the 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: last practice of Mini camp, well, the only practice of 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Mini Camp, as it turned out, was first in line, 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: and normally that portends you are first in the position room. 109 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: So if you're looking for an opportunity to excel, we 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: can argue all you want about Romadonsay versus Elik Nighbors 111 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: versus Marvin Erson Junior. But I'm guessing Marvin Harrison Junior 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: will get the most targets and the most opportunities out 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: of all those rookie receivers. 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, you would be expecting that as the fourth overall pick. 115 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: How about another list? Judy Batista, senior national columnist NFL 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: dot Com listed seven teams that significantly helped their quarterbacks. 117 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Cardinals made the list. Kyler Murray has to be held 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: happy with MHJ. And then you brought up Zay Jones. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Chris Moore added as well, you brought in Tejon Palmer 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: and then an undrafted rookie in Xavier Weaver. That wide 121 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: receiver room, it is twelve deep. All but two are 122 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: taller than six feet and one I'm gonna throw out 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: there for another potential breakout candidate, even though he is Paul. 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Did you know this that Greg Dortsch is the longest 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: tenured Cardinals receiver of those twelve in the room currently. 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that until he mentioned it in him, 127 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Greg Dortch. I was actually at an event and he 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: was the featured speaker and he mentioned that he's going 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: into his fourth season with Kyler, and I started doing 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: the math and calculating the turnover. And you realize, as 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: we've detailed before, that this offseason, last offseason, we were 132 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: saying it has been another edition of a Purge movie, 133 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: and there's been so much turnover that yes, indeed. And 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: let me tell you in terms of buzz generated when 135 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: you talk to players, Greg Dorch is right up there. 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Greg Dortch is top three most buzz generated by any 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: Cardinals player this offseason. He by all counts, says looked 138 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: phenomenal in the slot, has looked himan great in space. 139 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: And that's the key, is Greg Dortch. Just give him 140 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: a little room to work, give him the targets, and 141 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: then he turns into an above average return man, making 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: dudes missing a phone booth, as he likes to say. 143 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: And what we saw in Chicago in the thirty eight 144 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: yard catch and run, he's zig zagging his way all 145 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: the way and turning around and breaking ankles and he's 146 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: scoring that touchdown. I fully expect there will be more 147 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: moments like that this season for Greg Dortch. If going 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: back to the beginning here, all the attention from the 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: secondary is going to Marvin Harrison Junior and in approved 150 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson and Trey McBride down the seam, and James 151 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Connor's ability to come out of the backfield and catch 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: the football. So yes, I would agree. What was the 153 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: list again? Where are the Cardinals and those teams that 154 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: help their quarterback the most? 155 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com And yes, the Cardinals Kyler Murray MHJ. 156 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: But Greg Dortch, going back to last season, the back 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: half of the last season, the second most targeted player 158 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: from weeks eleven to eighteen, second most receiving first downs 159 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: among pass catchers. And just watching Greg Dortsch this offseason, 160 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: whether it was OTA's or a mini camp one, he 161 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: does seem to be more comfortable, more sure of himself, 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: the way he is carrying himself on and off the 163 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: field and taking advantage of every single rep He has 164 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: gotten so far to the point where I know I'm 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: dating myself here and you as wal Paul, But could 166 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Greg Dortsch be this year's version of Steve Preston back 167 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: in the day, a wide receiver who did come into 168 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: his own in the offseason and it paid off that 169 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: work in May and June and all of a sudden, 170 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: one thousand yards for Steve Breston. I don't know if 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: i'd predict one thousand yards for Greg dors but someone 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: that I think right now has clearly solidified himself as 173 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: a top three, no less than top four wide receiver 174 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: right now. 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: If he's a thousand yard receiver with that exceed expectations, yes, 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: would it be a shocker No, and a thousand doll 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: purpose yards. I could definitely easily see that based on 178 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: his prowess as a return man, which is another reason 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: I like that Steve Preston comparison, because Preston was excellent 180 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: in the return game. I've met a few people tell 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: me that this new format, this kickoff rule chain, and 182 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: the fact you don't have dudes getting ahead of steam 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: forty yards downfield, is actually going to serve Greg Dortch 184 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: really well because he does have the ability to make 185 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: guys miss and if they're trying with some bigger guys 186 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: out there, because maybe now it's more of a physical 187 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: play and they're not as light on their feet as 188 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: or the ability to tackle. I've had some people say, 189 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: guess what, Greg Dortch could have his best return year 190 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: by far. And if you go back to his days 191 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: of wake Forest, one year he was a first team 192 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: All American return man. So not only is he confident 193 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: in his receiving ability, but he definitely has confidence in 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: his ability to make things happen in that return game. 195 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: And I think he'll get every opportunity this year. Don't forget. 196 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: You also have Zach Pascal. Then that wide receiver room 197 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: probably more special teams player, but twelve wide receivers right now, 198 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: and who is going to emerge out of that mix? 199 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: We know Marvin Harrison Junior will be there, we know 200 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson will be there. No, Greg Dortch is going 201 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: to be there. And Zay Jones well one of those 202 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: free agents, but a taller free agent. And I think 203 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: that that looks pretty good right now on paper. 204 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Here in June, I'd say the top four decided Marvin 205 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: Arrison Junior, Michael Wilson, Greg Dortch, z Jones and then 206 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: do you keep five or six? And it depends you 207 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: have to make up Jonathan Gannon and Maniasapford's mind for them. 208 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: How versatile are you? What else can you do not 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: only on offense but on special teams? So we'll see. 210 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: But think about some of the numbers and some of 211 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: these position battles. That is remarkable. A dozen receivers right 212 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: now on the roster. How many corners eleven eleven corners, 213 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: I believe. Think of how many left guards there are. 214 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, last check, I had nine dudes competing at 215 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: left guard. I'll name them a little bit later if 216 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: you want, But there are a lot of guys who 217 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: are in the mix who have a legitimate shot at 218 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: the final fifty three. And the best sign of any 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: roster in the overall talent level is when you make 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: final cuts. How many of those guys catch on elsewhere? 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: And I think this year, for the first time in 222 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: a while, Cardinals will have a number of guys who 223 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: will be immediately snapped up. 224 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: I heard Giamani Austin ford On with Arizona Sports talking 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: about the decisions that are going to be needed to 226 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: be made at the end of August, and you want 227 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: those hard decisions because it means the roster has been 228 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: elevated to where you're getting rid of good players. I 229 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you could have said that a couple 230 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: of seasons with the Cardinals, but that is something that 231 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: is definitely going to be the case this year. All Right, 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: that's offense defense. What's the most improved position? And I think, Paul, 233 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: you can go one to two directions here, but one 234 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: to me is more obvious than the other. 235 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard not to walk out under that field 236 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: and not notice the day and night difference. At D line. 237 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: You've gone from the D and D line to standing 238 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: for decimated and depleted right to now Dare I say dominant? 239 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Can't say it yet, but when you look at just 240 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: the names and the experience and the talent level, you 241 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: ended last season with a roster that you would field 242 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: in August for a preseason game. Now you come out 243 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: with a legitimate, regular season worthy D line room, and 244 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: you have the experience of a Justin Jones and a 245 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: Blall Nichols. You have the talent of a Darius Robinson. 246 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of talk about Michael Wilson 247 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: and Garrett Williams making that second year surge. Don't forget 248 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: about Dante Stills, big buzz out there from people in 249 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: the know about Dante Stills and how good he looks 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: going into his second season, got so many snaps as 251 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: a rookie. So and then even a Roy Lopez who 252 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: is always overlooked. But you know, Craig, how many times 253 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: did Roy Lopez have his name called last year during 254 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: Cardinals games? He's just really productive. 255 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: You couldn't go a handful of plays without hearing mentioned 256 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez's name. And I think when he came in, 257 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: Remember he came in and he was hurt, so he 258 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: had to rehab a little bit, and I think as 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the season progressed, he got more snaps, more production. And 260 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: then you almost thought, based off the addition of Jones 261 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: and Nichols and Kyrie's toga, the drafting of Darius Robinson, 262 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: would a Roy Lopez, maybe even a Dante Stills get 263 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle. Well that's the furthest thing from 264 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: the case, considering what we've seen during OTA's and mini camp, 265 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: because I do believe this d line, you're gonna start three, 266 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe four, and then you're gonna have a healthy rotation 267 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: of five to six, and they're going to get significant 268 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: snaps to keep everyone healthy, everyone energized into the fourth quarter. 269 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: You might see more for a Jones or Nichols just 270 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: because you paid them like that. But I think that 271 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: this D line is going to be night and day 272 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: compared to what we saw and we didn't see last year. 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Who looks like he's in really good shape. LJ. Coller 274 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: as well. He Maybe it's because he always has his 275 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: you know, he goes out there without any sleeves. Maybe 276 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: that's why he looks like you on the weekend. So 277 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: I understand, I don't want to talk about it. I 278 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: suffered yet another injury in the weight room over the weekend. 279 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, are you kidding me? 280 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: So? 281 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Roy Lopez did this interview with Wolf and Luke, who 282 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: regrettably but grudgingly, we do have to give the Rex 283 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: Ryan Media Award for winning the offseason. They got the 284 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray exclusive one on one and they did a 285 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: good interview with Roy Lopez where he talked about how 286 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: right now Nick Rollis has put him on the nose 287 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: and that really does serve him well because he grew 288 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: up as a wrestler, as a heavyweight wrestler, you know, 289 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: also had that background. Corey Peters if you want to 290 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: go back in the day, and so he's just really 291 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: well equipped. Is he the tallest D lineman. Absolutely not. 292 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: They list him at six ' two three eighteen. But 293 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: he's really quick on his feet, he's really good with 294 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: his hands. He's even better with just the weight distribution 295 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: and some of those wrestling moves on the interior. You're 296 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: always getting doubled as the nose. But look, once again, 297 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: we know the numbers. They were not good in terms 298 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: of stopping the run. You just seem to be going 299 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: back to the most improved areas. I just don't see 300 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: how on paper, how you just can't look at the 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals roster and then start to daydream if you were 302 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: just middle of the packs stopping the run, and the 303 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: talent you have on the interior D line starts commanding 304 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: more attention from the offensive line, how does that free 305 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: up A bj O Jalaria, Zavian Collins, A Dennis Gardak. 306 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: It's a trickle down not only to the edge rushers, 307 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: but also the cornerback position, another position group that I 308 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: think has improved. But again it's all on paper here 309 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: in June, I just keep coming back to the defensive 310 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: line room and when we're out on that field here 311 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: at the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. They where 312 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: we are positioned amongst the media. The defensive line is 313 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: right there in the shade at as well, working out, 314 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: and it is easy to see the difference, not only 315 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: as far as the names on the back of the jersey, 316 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: but just how big these gentlemen are. And then to 317 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: see Darius Robbins out there running the rocking to the 318 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: number fifty six. And it might not be week one. 319 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when we talk about starters, Paul, you've been 320 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: in this game long enough that it's the first snap 321 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: of the ballgame. So if you're a starter, okay, great, 322 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: it's the first nap. It means more for some of 323 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: the offensive linemen and the quarterback obviously, But if Darius 324 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Robinson is not starting week one, that's okay, it's not 325 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. He's going to get a lot of 326 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: snaps though week one, and fans pay attention to snap 327 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: counts at the end of weeks, not who's starting and 328 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: who's not starting. 329 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: This coaching staff is dead set on being the better 330 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: team in the fourth quarter. And you saw it last 331 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: year on offense. You saw it especially at the end 332 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: of last season. Three of the last four games you 333 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: ran for more than two hundred yards. And if you 334 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: look at the difference in yards per carry the first quarter, 335 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: the first half versus the second half, the fourth quarter, 336 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: it was remarkable. We talked to Kyle Vandenbosch about that. 337 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: You get to the fourth quarter and guys are tired, 338 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: and everything hurts, and here comes James Connor and now 339 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: maybe Trey Benson, and all of a sudden, maybe you're 340 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: not as intent about getting off that block. Well, same 341 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: thing in terms of this Cardinals defensive line. If you 342 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: have Justin Jones and Blall Nichols, Dante Stoles and Darius Robinson, 343 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Roy Lopez and LJ. Coll Air, and you're rotating those 344 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: guys around, and by the time you get to the 345 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they're still fresh and they're still able to 346 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: get off the ball and really penetrate it and get 347 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: up field and command the double team. So you just 348 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: once again you start to factor in how much improvement 349 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: that can make, not only for the D line room, 350 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: but what does that do for the defense. Especially if 351 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: these D linemen are keeping offensive linemen off Kaiser White, 352 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: you know they're occupying offensive lineman who can't get to 353 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: Mac Wilson. So that that gives you hope that the 354 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: front seven will be totally different than last year. 355 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: Those six d line names that you brought up, Paul 356 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Half are brand new. And I'll even put a little 357 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: asterisk next to L. J. Collier's name because he was 358 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: only on the field Week one, didn't even finish that 359 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: game against the Commanders, So you basically have four brand 360 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: new bodies on that field this season. Cornerback again, I 361 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: think on defense is an improved position. Just you hope 362 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: that Sean Murphy Bunten becomes a veteran in that room 363 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: year two for Garrett Williams, and then you draft Max 364 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Melton very high. I'm curious what Elijah Jones is capable 365 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: of doing as a corner and when we might see 366 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: him on the football field. And someone from a year 367 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: ago that could be sneaky good at least the start 368 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: of this season. That's Darling Thomas, who was not here 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals at all a year ago. On the offseason, 370 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: he was claimed off waivers from the Lions. He's getting 371 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: his first off season with Nick Rolis and company. 372 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: Within this defense, Starling Thomas is otherwise known as Buddha 373 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Baker's shadow. He was smart enough to come in and say, Okay, 374 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: how does Buddha prepare? What does Buddha do in terms 375 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 2: of his routine? He basically copied every aspect of Buddha 376 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Baker and how he gets ready. And we saw him 377 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: at the end of last year. He started a bunch 378 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: of games, just like Kee Troll Clark started a bunch 379 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: of games to start last year. So those are two 380 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: guys from last season we're kind of forgotten going into 381 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: this season. When you drafted Max Melton and Elijah Jones 382 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: and you go after a Sean Murphy bunting, I mean, 383 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 2: it's an absolute battle. Royale. You're a big wrestling guy. 384 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean, is that what they call it? When everybody's 385 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: into the ring right over the top? Absolutely, that's all right. 386 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: That's what the cornerback room is to me. I mean, 387 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: you just have a bunch of dudes out there. What 388 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: are you gonna end up with? Four five tops? Now? 389 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: I get it. You know Garrett Williams, and there's been 390 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: a huge buzz about Garret Williams, but he's a starter 391 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: right now. Him and Sean Murphy Bunting. You went into 392 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: last season with Marco Wilson as cornerback. One, can we 393 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: agree that Sean Murphy bunting right there is an upgrade? 394 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: And then based on what we're hearing about Max Melton, 395 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: he's legit. He had a top three athleticism score of 396 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: any corner in the draft. And some of the stuff 397 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm hearing from the meeting rooms reminds me a little 398 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: bit and I'll just say this a little bit of 399 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: Tyron Matthew. He sins front and center, he asks a 400 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: lot of really good questions, he takes notes high football IQ. 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: He's instinctive. So I think Max Melton is gonna give 402 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: himself every chance, and I do mean chance to start 403 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: coming out of the gates, just like keithchall Clark did 404 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: a year ago. If you can't play, you will play 405 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: for Jonathan Gannon regardless of experience. 406 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Melton five eleven one eighty seven ran a four to 407 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: three ninety at the combine. Jones six foot one point 408 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: eight five, so he's bigger. Ran a four to four 409 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: forty at the combine. 410 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: So and there's some list he's had him closer to 411 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: six to two, like six to one, and an I mean 412 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: and yes, he is. He He had a great little 413 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: story in the Big Red Rage where he's welcome to 414 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: the NFL. Moment was he got some reps with the 415 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: ones and he had to make a call, he had 416 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: to make a check and he barks it out. He 417 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: turns around and Buddha Baker's behind him. He goes, oh, 418 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: you know what I am in the NFL because I'm 419 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: on the I'm in the same secondary with Buddha Baker. 420 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: So once again there's another name drop for you with Buddha. 421 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: And the what will you always hear from Nick Rolis 422 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: when it comes to rush coverage? Coverage, rush, And I 423 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: do think there is a marriage between that front seven 424 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: and the secondary because to what you brought up earlier, 425 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: if that defensive line Garner's even a little bit of attention, now, 426 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: how much less attention is there on David Collins, Dennis Gardak, 427 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: p jo Jo Lauri, whomever is rushing the quarterback. And 428 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: then now all of a sudden, you're forcing that quarterback 429 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: to get the ball out a little bit quicker before 430 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: they want to. And how about some hands on footballs 431 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: in the secondary? Only eleven intercept since a year ago, 432 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: that number, I would hope goes up or at least 433 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: some batted passes. Passes defense numbers weren't great a year ago. 434 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: And let those guys in the secondary get their hands 435 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: on a football and get the ball back into Kyler 436 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Murray's hands for the offense. 437 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: And once again we look at the division and we've 438 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: talked a lot about how important the division is this 439 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: coming season. To me, that's the best gauge, the best 440 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: benchmark as to how improved the Cardinals will be from 441 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: a year ago where for the first time since division realignment, 442 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: they went winless against division opponents. And what are those 443 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: three division opponents, where do they specialize? What is a 444 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: definite team strength receiver, whether it's Cooper cub and Puka Nakoua, 445 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: whether it's Deebo, Samuel Brandon Ayuk, Ricky Piersoll, now Shawan 446 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: Jennings had a heck of a year. He got paid. 447 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: And then of course up in Seattle a DK Metcalf 448 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: and aging Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigbaz has gotten 449 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: some rave reviews from the media up in Seattle taking 450 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: that jump from year one to year two. So this 451 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: is a critical area that you got to nail down 452 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: because it's going to allow you to compete within the 453 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: division against some of the best receiving duos and trios 454 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL. And too often Poka Nakoa and Matthew 455 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: Stafford and Debo and Brandon Ayuk, with Brock Perdy and 456 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: Gino Smith, with DK and Tyler Lockett, they had their 457 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: way too often. There were too many big chunk throws 458 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: and key third down completions. Cardinals have to be better 459 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: defensively in those situations in division games. 460 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Good teas ahead, Paul, without even knowing it, you set 461 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: up what I was going to talk about next, and 462 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: that is a little bit of a programming note here 463 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hundai proud partner 464 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Over the next three weeks, well, 465 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: as you like to say, Paul, take a look over 466 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: our neighbors fence and see what's been going on within 467 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: the NFC West forty nine Ers, the Rams, the Seahawks 468 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: will discuss each one and before you know it, Paul, 469 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: five weeks until the start of training camp. 470 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: Players reports July twenty third, So, speaking of five and 471 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: division opponents, you see the pro football focus. It's the 472 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: least season put out their five overlooked teams going into 473 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Cleveland. Okay, I'll buy that, right, especially 474 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: if Deshaun Watson is healthy. They made the playoffs with 475 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: Joe flaccol last year, they got a top defense Dolphins. 476 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: They were in the hunt for the number one seed 477 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: in Week seventeen. Okay, I'll buy that. But then you 478 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: have the stinking Seahawks as okay, the Chargers because they 479 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: have a top ten quarterback, and the Titans as the 480 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: five overlooked teams. How do you know you're really overlooked 481 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: when you can't even make the all overlooked list. So 482 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals definitely flying under the radar right now. 483 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: I would definitely put the Cardinals ahead of the Titan. Yes, 484 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's a little bit without question out although 485 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: maybe this is a better position for the Cardinals. Fly 486 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: under the radar, not arner a lot of attention. Let 487 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: them earn what we've been seeing here and maybe we're 488 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the scene, but let the 489 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: rest of the nation catch up to what we know 490 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: and what we think we know. Twenty twenty four is 491 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: going to be. Now, I don't understand the Seahawks. Either 492 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: they're not good on the offensive line. They're average at best, 493 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: if not below average, in the defensive line. Gino Smith 494 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: took a big step back last year versus twenty twenty two. 495 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: So if you're the Cardinals and you're much better in 496 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: the trenches, and you have a better quarterback and you've 497 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: bolstered your weapons, I just don't see how the Seahawks 498 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: can be picked ahead of the Cardinals. But that's just 499 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: me from the inside looking out, if you will, So 500 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: we'll we'll see how it materializes. Seahawks are in the 501 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: exact same position as the Cardinals were a year ago. 502 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: First year head coach, first year, first time offensive coordinator, 503 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: first year, first time defensive coordinator. They do have a 504 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: healthy quarterback, which the Cardinals did not have. But again 505 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: that's for more of the national perspective, that's what they're 506 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: looking at versus what we see. You know, going full 507 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: circle here, when you said the most improved position groups 508 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals this year and we had d line, receiver, corner, 509 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: you know what number four on the list was for me? 510 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator. They now have a year under 511 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: their belt, they now know the division. Those are two 512 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: big things I think that will be catapults for both, 513 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, Drew Petsing and Nick Rollis. And I think 514 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: especially the end of last year, once he got his 515 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in the fold, and his quarterback got the rust 516 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: off and got started to trust the knee and trust 517 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: the offense and being under center, he saw what Drew 518 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Petsing can do dialing up some of the play calls 519 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: in the game plans. So I would expect the two 520 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals first time coordinators to take a big leap from 521 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: year one to year two, just like a player would exactly. 522 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: And as I was gonna say, players, we always talk about, 523 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: well what about coaches and coordinators that jump from year 524 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: one to your to what that might mean for the 525 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: team overall going into twenty twenty one. 526 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: I mean, think think about Nick Ralis. I mean, you 527 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: have to go twice a year against Kyle Shanahan and 528 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Sean McVay, arguably the two toughest tests in the NFL. 529 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: Those guys game plan with the best of them. They're 530 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: able to break their own tendencies. They're able to identify 531 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: your weaknesses and get the matchups they want as good 532 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: as any coaches in the game of football, and you 533 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: got to lockhorns with those guys four times a year, 534 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: so I think last year's experience will prove very beneficial. Paully. 535 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: On that note, I will cut you loose here, enjoy 536 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: the offseason as we come to you here on this Monday. 537 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I did not know, but it is National Mascot Day. 538 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: So the tip of the cats to Big Red out 539 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: there here on this Monday. 540 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: And the alma mater Osky. Never did quite like the 541 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: name Osky, even though it goes back about one hundred 542 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: and fifty years, you know, speaking of mascots and nicknames 543 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: and so forth, Can I just flex the fact that 544 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: the Cardinal's official Twitter account is using Trey mcplay oh boy. So, 545 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Darren Urban, if you're out there, I don't know if 546 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: you owe me an apology or some sort of residual, 547 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: but we'll decide upon that when you get back from 548 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: your vacation. I'll let the two of you sort that out. 549 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: On that note, we'll put a lid on this edition 550 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hundai proud partner the 551 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, as always special thanks to our executive producer, 552 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Jim Mama Hunter. Our associate producer Coddy Fincher from Paul Calvic. 553 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to you next time 554 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two.