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Speaker 1: our radio affiliates around the country. A lot's been made
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady's retirement, and it makes sense because he's
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of people still believe Tom Brady will return. Mike Florio
Speaker 1: was one of them. He was on yesterday and he
Speaker 1: said he believes Brady is done with the Buccaneers, that
Speaker 1: he was retiring from the Buccaneers, not from football, and
Speaker 1: he thinks that Tom Brady will be the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers Week one. Well, yesterday, the
Speaker 1: Buck's head coach Bruce Arians said accommodating a Brady trade
Speaker 1: request would be bad business. And I think that's surprising
Speaker 1: people because Brady gave the Buccaneers, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: bottom feeders for a long time, gave him a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The NFL is a cutthroat business, though, and it appears
Speaker 1: Bruce has no interest in coaching against Brady having him
Speaker 1: go to another NFC team, But to be fair, Tampa
Speaker 1: isn't obligated to deal Tom Brady. But if Brady does
Speaker 1: decide he wants to come back, this could be an
Speaker 1: interesting situation to follow as the offseason continues. Bruce arians
Speaker 1: was asked about Tom Brady yesterday. If he comes back,
Speaker 1: I don't think so because of the racenc he retired.
Speaker 1: But if he does, you're gonna be playing for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand it. That would be the line that I
Speaker 1: would take. Right now, Let's see what San Francisco. Let's
Speaker 1: just say entertainment purposes. Only San Francisco is interested in
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Now. They could have had him two years
Speaker 1: ago and they decided to stay with Jimmy G. Now
Speaker 1: you are gonna move on from Jimmy G. And Trey
Speaker 1: Lance isn't ready to play yet. It would be a
Speaker 1: brilliant move if you could get Tom Brady. Now, let
Speaker 1: Trey Lance learn from Tom Brady. Brady plays one year.
Speaker 1: He wanted to play for the team that he grew
Speaker 1: up rooting for, the forty nine ers, that is a
Speaker 1: team that's ready to win now, and maybe he could
Speaker 1: get one more chance. I think he would look at
Speaker 1: this and say, I have a better chance to win
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl in San Francisco than I do in Tampa. Now,
Speaker 1: is there a rift with Tom Brady and Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: As I said last hour, I've heard the stories, heard
Speaker 1: the reports. I can't get any confirmation on it. If
Speaker 1: it's true that they didn't get along or there there
Speaker 1: was a rift growing between the two. If I look
Speaker 1: at Brady's numbers, I mean, I'd hate to see if
Speaker 1: he had a great relationship with Bruce because those are
Speaker 1: unbelievable numbers for a guy who might have had a rift. Now,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, I don't think was involved with the offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not, at least from what I've read that you know,
Speaker 1: Brady runs his own offense. I don't think Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: was involved in it, or Tom had the ability to
Speaker 1: be able to check down change plays. He's Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you know, and Bruce Arians has work with some of
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks in recent memory in the last thirty years.
Speaker 1: Do I think that he handled Tom differently than Belichick did? Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe some good and maybe some not. But if I
Speaker 1: look at the bottom line, tom won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and could have won MVP last year. But do I
Speaker 1: think he comes back and play. I just don't see
Speaker 1: it now. I don't think if Brady is going to
Speaker 1: do this, he's already decided to do this. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's going to go and I've been home for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Now I gotta get a hobby.
Speaker 1: You know. It's not like Giselle's going to see. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on the couch and he's mopen. He's got it.
Speaker 1: You know, he's head in his hands. He's like Tommy, Tommy,
Speaker 1: why don't you go play? You mean in the NFL?
Speaker 1: No go outside and play? Oh okay, it goes head
Speaker 1: and held low. He'll get a media job. Time. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go outside, or I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: to work. I always love that. My mom would always
Speaker 1: say that if you are still in the house when
Speaker 1: I get up, you gotta do chores. We were out
Speaker 1: the damned door at six thirty in the morning. They're
Speaker 1: like tiptoeing out because I you know, you didn't want
Speaker 1: to be cleaning bathrooms or something. But it was my
Speaker 1: mom's way of saying, get the hell out of the house.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tom's there yet, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he comes back and plays because I don't think
Speaker 1: he wants to come back and play in Tampa. And
Speaker 1: is something is everything gonna stars are going to align
Speaker 1: that he's gonna end up with San Francisco. I never
Speaker 1: say never, but I would doubt this. I'd have a
Speaker 1: lot of doubts with this happening. But look, Floor was
Speaker 1: all in willing to take a pie to the face
Speaker 1: and maybe it's wishful thinking, but he's him and Chris
Speaker 1: Simms have been all over this. Brady ends up with
Speaker 1: the Niners, and yeah, the Niners know they whipped a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And maybe it's like, hey, we'll
Speaker 1: move on from Jimmy G. What do we get for
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Can we get Tom Brady for Jimmy G?
Speaker 1: Would you trade Jimmy G for Tom Brady for one year?
Speaker 1: And the answers yes, heck yes, And then Trey Lance
Speaker 1: can learn at the feet of Tom Brady. Oh quarterback issues,
Speaker 1: We love it. Steve Kim is the Cardinals GM, and
Speaker 1: he talked about the letter that he got from Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray's agent to me, this is how you answer this question.
Speaker 1: A delicate question. But the one thing I'll say is
Speaker 1: is in regards of the statement, I know everybody's seen that,
Speaker 1: I think it's an agent thwing his job. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Eric Burkhart, obviously Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: From my standpoint, like it's always been moving forward. Any
Speaker 1: kind of speculation, any negotiations, any conversations and dialogue will
Speaker 1: be certainly held confidential between the three of us. That's
Speaker 1: the way you answer it. Now. What I would have
Speaker 1: said to the agent is, do not do this. Do
Speaker 1: not play this out on social media. Do not do this.
Speaker 1: If you want us to work with you, then it's
Speaker 1: just us working. Don't take this to the media because
Speaker 1: if you do, then we'll let this play out. We'll
Speaker 1: franchise tag him like, we'll make things a little tougher
Speaker 1: on you. If you're going to work with us, then
Speaker 1: give the impression that you're working with us, not in
Speaker 1: spite of us or holding us for ransom. That's what
Speaker 1: I would say privately to Kyler Murray's agent. Don't do
Speaker 1: this again. Don't make us look like the bad guys,
Speaker 1: because we're not we build a winner. We tried to
Speaker 1: build a winner around Kyler Murray and actions speak louder
Speaker 1: than words. Look at Kyler's performance against the Rams and
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Now, I don't know if I would say that,
Speaker 1: but I would be thinking that if I needed to.
Speaker 1: But that's al Steve Kim, the Cardinals. Gim answered this
Speaker 1: yesterday and to me, that's the right answer. Also, the
Speaker 1: Colts not sure what they're doing at the quarterbacking position.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Colts have been doing for
Speaker 1: the last seven weeks since they lost at Jacksonville. But
Speaker 1: here is Chris Ballard, the Colts GM on their quarterbacking position.
Speaker 1: We're still working through it. And I know I'm going
Speaker 1: to get a lot of questions about Carson right now,
Speaker 1: and it's a I don't have a direct answer for you.
Speaker 1: We're working through it. Jim, Miss Darsay and Frank and
Speaker 1: I will sit down over the next ten days and
Speaker 1: figure out where it's going. Ultimately, we do We'll do
Speaker 1: what's best for the team, for the Colts, both in
Speaker 1: the short term and in the long term, but in
Speaker 1: the long term best interest for us. I think as
Speaker 1: we sit down and work through Whether Carson's the long
Speaker 1: term best answer or not is the best way I
Speaker 1: can put it. We're not there yet. I'm not there yet,
Speaker 1: and that's something that we'll talk about as a group
Speaker 1: and move forward and whatever decision we make will be
Speaker 1: the best one for us. Okay, thank you for the honesty,
Speaker 1: thank you for the content. But you just opened up
Speaker 1: all doors and windows. It's not like you open up
Speaker 1: a door there. No, you open up everything, windows, doors,
Speaker 1: screen doors, everything you're not quite sure about. If you're
Speaker 1: not quite sure about Carson Wentz, then you're not sure
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz. Not we're not quite sure. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: this is one of those where we talked about this.
Speaker 1: For the stats don't tell the story. Carson Wentz this
Speaker 1: year it was a sixty three percent pass or twenty
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns and seven picks. Those are nice stats on paper,
Speaker 1: they'll seem clean, but it's only like two hundred nine
Speaker 1: yards of game. There's a lot of fumbles, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers, a lot of turnovers at bad times.
Speaker 1: But like on paper, it's like Kirk Cousins. If you
Speaker 1: look at Kirk Cousins numbers like, oh man, he's got
Speaker 1: great now. But even Mike Zimmer's former coach in Minnesota
Speaker 1: complained openly when he was coaching the Vikings that Kirk
Speaker 1: doesn't have winning plays, like he doesn't create those big plays,
Speaker 1: those big moments. And you can disguise a quarterback and say,
Speaker 1: look at those numbers and then game on the line,
Speaker 1: can your quarterback win a game? And I thought Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz was going to be great with Indianapolis. I thought
Speaker 1: that being reunited with Frank Reich and having those weapons,
Speaker 1: having a running attack, a very good offensive line, and
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't get a happy feat, he wouldn't be
Speaker 1: worried about, you know, his surgically repaired knee. I thought
Speaker 1: that he would be really good in Indianapolis. And he wasn't.
Speaker 1: You know, fumbled a lot, made mistakes, lost games for them.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the overall stature going, that's
Speaker 1: not a bad year. Now, you take those numbers, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray's rapidly improving and he had those
Speaker 1: kind of numbers. Carson Wentz not rapidly improving, or the
Speaker 1: Colts are willing to move on from him. You know,
Speaker 1: Wentz had less picks than Kyler Murray did. Nice to year. Now.
Speaker 1: I know Kyler Murray is going to beat you with
Speaker 1: his legs as well. I understand all those things. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that the numbers, you can use the numbers
Speaker 1: as a positive or negative. With a lot of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. It's like somebody said to me yesterday,
Speaker 1: the NFL scout, he's at the combine and he goes.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Dak Prescott. I said, is this
Speaker 1: a big deal with a non throwing shoulder. You know,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a hard time playing with his injury,
Speaker 1: But you know that's also when you get tackled, you
Speaker 1: fall on it. That's what it really bothers you. Having
Speaker 1: had surgery on my right arm, which is my throwing arm,
Speaker 1: that's something that is always going to be there. Even now,
Speaker 1: if I raised my arm to a certain degree, certain level,
Speaker 1: torn laboram that I had repaired is always going to
Speaker 1: be there. You know, Cam Newton is always going to
Speaker 1: have an issue with his shoulder, and through luck these
Speaker 1: are in retirement, you'll still have that. But the left one,
Speaker 1: it's more of if I grab you, if I tackle you,
Speaker 1: then the pain is pretty excruciating. But with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: and the scout said, why is it that we're still
Speaker 1: waiting for Dak to be fully developed? Here? It's like
Speaker 1: he's a work in progress and this is his sixth season.
Speaker 1: He said that would that would concern me here. Plus,
Speaker 1: if you lose Amari Cooper Zeke, you may cut him.
Speaker 1: And now you got Pollard, Ceedee, Lamb Gallop. You know,
Speaker 1: are you that formidable? Is Dak going to be great?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, he still had thirty seven touchdowns?
Speaker 1: He said yes, but we keep hearing it's it's Dak
Speaker 1: is not a finished product and at this stage of
Speaker 1: his career, somebody you're going to pay that amount of
Speaker 1: money should be a finished product. Like we know Josh
Speaker 1: Allen or Patrick Mahomes. We there's certain quarterbacks where you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know who he is. We don't know who Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is yet. I don't know who Kyler Murray is yet,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is yet. But if you're going into is
Speaker 1: this Dak's sixth season, you should have a pretty good idea,
Speaker 1: and maybe the Cowboys do. But the non throwing shoulder,
Speaker 1: that to me is more about if I tackle you,
Speaker 1: you land on that shoulder and Baker went through that
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. There, Shannon and Indiana
Speaker 1: joins us. Hi, Shannon, what's on your mind? What a VP?
Speaker 1: Hey Shannon? Hey, just back with the Colts with Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I'm a Colts fan. I'll call it an you guys.
Speaker 1: A couple of times it's I'm glad get rid of him.
Speaker 1: Get somebody else. He's not the answer. We have the
Speaker 1: offensive line, which you talk about, Dan, Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: them in the game. Our defense is young. Get me
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can win and we can we can
Speaker 1: go far, Dan, And I just want your thoughts on
Speaker 1: who you think would be the best quarterback that could
Speaker 1: replace him. Well, I would say Aaron Rodgers and put
Speaker 1: him into Dome running game, offensive line, got Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make your receivers better, got Quentin Nelson. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm a GM right now, then let there's probably
Speaker 1: ten where you go. We could upgrade with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Although when the GM Brian Goodakou says, you know, he
Speaker 1: was asking, have you heard from any teams about trading
Speaker 1: Faron Rodgers? No, we have him. That's not the answer.
Speaker 1: It could be the truth. Although I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to trade him, I wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 1: And if you're not going to trade him, i'd certainly
Speaker 1: say we were not trading like I would be incredible,
Speaker 1: Like we're not trading Aaron Rodgers. We want him to
Speaker 1: be here. We're we're working on a contract extension. We
Speaker 1: want him to be here. Not No, we haven't heard
Speaker 1: from anybody. If you know anybody who wants a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let us know final results of the poll question from
Speaker 1: the first hour seat and then we'll move on to
Speaker 1: a new one, the cancelation of which league's season would
Speaker 1: bother you the most? NFL running away with it with
Speaker 1: two thirds of the vote at sixty two percent, followed
Speaker 1: by Baseball, NHL, and NBA not really registered much. Okay,
Speaker 1: NBA last, All right, The new poll question for hour
Speaker 1: two is, well, we could go with I hope Tom
Speaker 1: Brady stays retired, returns to the Bucks, return to the NFL,
Speaker 1: but with a different team. We can go with that.
Speaker 1: The word hope is interesting, how about because people might
Speaker 1: not you know, as far as hope goes, I expect
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to stay retired, return to the Buccaneers, return
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Okay, how about I expect and not hope?
Speaker 1: You know you expect? Yeah? All right. By the way,
Speaker 1: selection Sunday is a week and a half away. Is
Speaker 1: anybody ready to fill out their brackets? Syracuse? And they
Speaker 1: usually find a way in right around now? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. This year. I watched them against North
Speaker 1: Carolina that felt like a must win situation. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: usually Syracuse when they're on the bubble and on the outside,
Speaker 1: they not only win the Big East, they go on
Speaker 1: like a three game run in the tournament. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: go to the Sweet sixteen. Yeah. It feels like, um,
Speaker 1: are you paying more attention to college basketball now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It feels it feels like the more I know, the
Speaker 1: worse I do in the bracket challenge because you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that that eight nine game, that five to
Speaker 1: twelve game. Yes, virtually. Don't you feel like you got
Speaker 1: that big exam coming up? Which has feeling got the
Speaker 1: bracket You're like, you're not cramming. This is your last
Speaker 1: chance this last week. I have to get some semblance
Speaker 1: of an idea on who's good the Hyfridge Tournament. I
Speaker 1: did horrible when it came to exams, because I would
Speaker 1: always wait and wait and wait. The'd be like ten
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. I go, all right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: do a crash course here. It rarely went well. But
Speaker 1: you you were the guy that was always prepared. I
Speaker 1: was like, I figured, if the teacher's letting us know
Speaker 1: that far in advance, that there's a quiz or a
Speaker 1: test coming up, or a paper due, I should take
Speaker 1: advantage of every minute of that. If I mean, three
Speaker 1: weeks from now we have an exam, I'll probably start studying.
Speaker 1: If not that Dave soy within that week. So I
Speaker 1: have a few weeks to get ready. But you know,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. We're all in the same room. We're
Speaker 1: all in the same room. Very right now, we're all
Speaker 1: in the same room. I could have had a lot
Speaker 1: more fun, you know, not having to you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a little less with the grades and more with the
Speaker 1: socializing and the girls and everything. I mean, Paul got
Speaker 1: sees and Seaton was asked to leave. I think college. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I actually balance out the back row now perfectly.
Speaker 1: I'm the polar opposite of what Todd just described and Marvin,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it took you to get
Speaker 1: it through Connecticut. Man, I took the took the long route. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I got through all right? But you did. You're
Speaker 1: a graduate. You're a proud member of Husky Nation. Let's
Speaker 1: go Yukon. Yeah, a sweet sixteen at least this year.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well it sounds like a pie to the face.
Speaker 1: What yes, Mark, that's the heart talking. That ain't the heck,
Speaker 1: this is just your stupidity on my party. Yeah, uh yeah. Pull.
Speaker 1: Five and a half years in college means you got
Speaker 1: more education. You're small, that's a lot more education, right,
Speaker 1: because your education is really out of the classroom in college.
Speaker 1: There you go. You have to deal with certain situations.
Speaker 1: I always said that. I said to my mom. You know,
Speaker 1: she'd be like, Danny, why don't you apply yourself? I go, Mom,
Speaker 1: I am like, I'm really, I'm Magna cum lane outside
Speaker 1: of the classroom. She goes, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means. Yeah. See, that could be the title of
Speaker 1: my autobiography. If he'd only applied himself, or if I'd
Speaker 1: only applied myself. Because I was able, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I was able to coast through and basically do nothing
Speaker 1: in say high school, and get like bees and seas.
Speaker 1: For the most part, it's like, oh, yeah, that's all right,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do none of this. And then
Speaker 1: get to college and wheels fell off. Like if you
Speaker 1: said I could graduate number two overall in my class
Speaker 1: like Todd did, or I could have had a girlfriend
Speaker 1: or two. I'm gonna go with getting seas and having
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. Let's take a break. Is that a new
Speaker 1: pole question? Would you rather have good grades are a girlfriend? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: Paul Dad, I headed the worst I had seasoned no
Speaker 1: girls anywhere in high school. Believe me? Hi a corvette.
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Speaker 1: calls coming up. Got our pull question for our too
Speaker 1: correct Seaton? We do? We do have a pull question
Speaker 1: for our two. I expect Tom Brady to stay retired,
Speaker 1: return to the Bucks, return to the NFL, but with
Speaker 1: a different team. And I wonder if any TV executives
Speaker 1: going can we get Brady? Just like is ESPN looking
Speaker 1: at de Jeter? Yes? See a funny result from that
Speaker 1: poll question. Can you guess how many people have voted
Speaker 1: for him to return to the Bucks? What percentage? Four?
Speaker 1: That would be way high? Oh? Zero percent of the
Speaker 1: vote right now? Zero? Nobody thinks he's going back to
Speaker 1: the Buck. No, I don't. I don't think so either,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I'm all the way to
Speaker 1: the edge where Florio was yesterday, where he's like, no,
Speaker 1: he's retiring from the Buccaneers. He's gonna end up with
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Whenever there's a story about tb
Speaker 1: TV sports. Andrew Marshawn is the guy the New York
Speaker 1: Post senior sports media columnists. He's been killing it here
Speaker 1: in the offseason. And Andrew joins us. Now, Andrew, where
Speaker 1: do we stand with Troy Aikman? Has he wait? What's
Speaker 1: holding up him going to ESPN to do Monday night football?
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. He's gonna go for five years and
Speaker 1: ninety plus million dollars, which is pretty good. We'll take
Speaker 1: him through ABC slash ESPN Super Bowl. The average salary
Speaker 1: will be more than the deal Tony Romo got a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Those ten years in one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars from CBS. So it's just not official yet.
Speaker 1: There's some paperwork that has to be done, and we're
Speaker 1: waiting for other shoes to drop. So if they make
Speaker 1: an announcement, they may wait and try to make a
Speaker 1: double announcement, because if you're going to spend that money
Speaker 1: on Troy Aikman. And this is no offense to Steve Levy,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to have Steve Levy paired with
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, or are you? Is that still a possibility
Speaker 1: or they they looking at making a big splash with
Speaker 1: al Michaels or Joe Buck. So yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: list for them. The first they're going to see if
Speaker 1: Fox will allow them to talk to Joe Buck, who
Speaker 1: was one year left on his contract. He makes eleven
Speaker 1: million dollars to be the number one play by player
Speaker 1: for the NFL and baseball for Fox, and so that's
Speaker 1: their number one. You know. They Aikman and Buck are close.
Speaker 1: They've been together for two decades now. I could see
Speaker 1: that happening. If it doesn't, they'll look at al Michaels.
Speaker 1: They like al Michaels. Al Michaels is you know, late seventies.
Speaker 1: The question for them is does he get you to
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl in February twenty twenty seven? Do you
Speaker 1: kind of pushing the bigger issue off for a while. Uh? Internally,
Speaker 1: Chris Fowler's their National Championship caller. They like him. To me,
Speaker 1: He's not as strong as these other guys. And then
Speaker 1: the other wild card would be aye An Eagle from CBS,
Speaker 1: who's the number two on the NFL for them, who
Speaker 1: has a contract, but I think they would try to
Speaker 1: possibly finagle him out of his deal. Well, what's Amazon
Speaker 1: doing on Thursday Night? So they've al Michael's NBC and
Speaker 1: al Michael's bit a du basically after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So al Michaels is their number one choice. It's a
Speaker 1: three year deal. I think thirty plus million dollars. It's
Speaker 1: what's on the table um and uh Al has been
Speaker 1: kind of ninety percent, but he's been waiting to see
Speaker 1: who the analysts is going to be. If first wanted
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth to come with him, Collinsworth doesn't want to
Speaker 1: do two games. Uh then wanted Aikman. Aikman was close
Speaker 1: to signing with Amazon, where he possibly could have split
Speaker 1: his time between Amazon, who will have exclusive rights the
Speaker 1: Thursday night football come this fall, which is a big
Speaker 1: milestone for TV just going for NFL TV going straight
Speaker 1: to streaming. Uh and then after that he really he
Speaker 1: has a close relationship with Sean mcvayh They dinner together
Speaker 1: with their wives and mcvey's fiance Alan is one wife,
Speaker 1: as I should say wife. Um, and so don't starting rumors. Uh.
Speaker 1: So they they're there, they have a relationship obviously for Amazon.
Speaker 1: Al Michael's probably the greatest play by player of all time,
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning coach. That would be pretty good. But
Speaker 1: that's not happening. McVeigh is staying. Uh. And so did
Speaker 1: McVeigh get an offer Andrew? So it never got to that.
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams knew that that was out there,
Speaker 1: that he could have the Amazon from what I know,
Speaker 1: would have gone to five years, one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: that range. Now you know he's gonna talk anything later
Speaker 1: today he might say, oh, that was it was there.
Speaker 1: I mean I could get into all the how everything works,
Speaker 1: you know, the inside of it. But uh, nickveigh, there
Speaker 1: was real interest McVeigh. ESPN went after McVeigh two years ago,
Speaker 1: tried to get him for Monday Night. Um, after the
Speaker 1: Witten Booger arrangement didn't work in terms of analysts. M
Speaker 1: And you listen to McVeigh, I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: can only go by so much. People say he has
Speaker 1: an interest in doing this. Um, the Rams, I'd be
Speaker 1: surprised if you know within five years McVeigh is not
Speaker 1: a broadcaster. If you look at what he said he wants,
Speaker 1: he's getting, he's getting married. He doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: a football lifer. U. But this Rams team has a
Speaker 1: chance to win again. He has the quarterback. But then
Speaker 1: he leaves, then he can decide to come back to coaching.
Speaker 1: Like I was joking Daniel, like this is that I
Speaker 1: wanted him originally to sign with ESPN, So then I
Speaker 1: can start writing about how he's leaving ESPN the coach.
Speaker 1: So mcvanry has somebody on there now. Kirk Herbstreet is
Speaker 1: someone who's high on Amazon's list. All right, if al
Speaker 1: Michaels goes to Amazon, you think he'll be paired with who?
Speaker 1: So herb Street right now, I would say, is someone
Speaker 1: who I would most likely to me is a very
Speaker 1: good choice. Right you're picking a broadcast or not a quarterback.
Speaker 1: So the fact that herb Street never played in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I think you know what kind of analysts you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: And when you're Amazon, you're starting this new service streaming,
Speaker 1: people have to find it, you know. That's why they
Speaker 1: want al Michaels. They want it to feel big, they
Speaker 1: want it to feel familiar, and I think Al at
Speaker 1: this point he's still great throws nineteen ninety two, nine five,
Speaker 1: ninety seven in his prime, but nineteen ninety two still
Speaker 1: very good. Hurt streets a perfect compliment for him. You know,
Speaker 1: does Al like that? You know Al likes the stars, Madden, Uh,
Speaker 1: Colin's word, Aikman, McVeigh, those type of people. Hurt shoots
Speaker 1: a star in college, not in the NFL, So we'll
Speaker 1: all be totally pleased with that. I don't know the
Speaker 1: wild card Joe buckos the ESPN. Suddenly Fox has an
Speaker 1: opening to do the super Bowl two of the next
Speaker 1: three years. Al Michaels has done twelve greatest ever. Yes,
Speaker 1: um a little bit older, but I look, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Fox would do that. I think more likely Kevin
Speaker 1: Burkhardt moves up Um very you know, he was excellent,
Speaker 1: ready to do it in my opinion, great guy um
Speaker 1: and deserves it. But did say, Look, we just lost
Speaker 1: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. Al Michaels is out there.
Speaker 1: We get him to do two of the next three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and kind of I kind of wrote, Michaels
Speaker 1: did the uh Tom Brady thing this past super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Great performance, you know, kind of put that stamp on
Speaker 1: IF Again, it's a silly argument with his will I
Speaker 1: cover who the greatest play by play of player is
Speaker 1: of all time at seventy eight to have the game
Speaker 1: he had. But now you go off and get two
Speaker 1: more Super Bowls and you know, Summer All did twelve,
Speaker 1: Al's done twelve, he gets the fourteen in terms of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's a pretty good exclamation point on a career.
Speaker 1: What are the Manning's paid for the Manning cast? So
Speaker 1: nobody is I know, I've heard numbers not confirmed, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I look, they're in that neighborhood of where Romo and
Speaker 1: Aikman is the ESPN. The way that they're able to
Speaker 1: somewhat pay these people is that they make it a
Speaker 1: digital deal. Obviously, Disney overall is making ESPN Plus a priority,
Speaker 1: so that budget is bigger. So Peyton does Peyton's Places,
Speaker 1: he has Omaha productions, so that money is kind of
Speaker 1: goes through there and those are real things. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been successful. Peyton's Places have been successful for ESPN Plus.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, success is to find, you know,
Speaker 1: different ways. But people do like Peyton on those shows
Speaker 1: and from when I'm told in terms of what they
Speaker 1: see internally in terms of those streams. But yes, he's
Speaker 1: in that range. He's making a lot of money to
Speaker 1: do the ten Manning cast from home. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: good deal for both sides. Though it was it was
Speaker 1: it was excellent for ESPN as well, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's why it was kind of a little bit like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they have the Manning cast, you know, do they need Achman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're looking towards that Super Bowl. Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: wondered about that too, that Troy is gonna miss out
Speaker 1: on a couple of super Bowls with Fox, where he's
Speaker 1: gonna get one super Bowl with the mother Ship, it
Speaker 1: looks like, but then you have the Manning cast. And plus,
Speaker 1: when you work on Monday night football, you don't just
Speaker 1: work on Monday night football. You get put through the
Speaker 1: car wash there. He's gonna be on Get Up, He's
Speaker 1: gonna be on you know radio shows, you know Van
Speaker 1: Pelt show, like that goes along with the territory. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, Dan, most likely. But I will say,
Speaker 1: like when Romo is talking to ESPN, and I was
Speaker 1: so ready to write the Romo Rules, I couldn't wait
Speaker 1: to write it. If he had gone to ESPN, I
Speaker 1: don't think Romo would have been doing everything like I
Speaker 1: think he would have just done the games. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you, you know better than I do. The
Speaker 1: ESPN culture is you do all these things, and maybe
Speaker 1: Troy will end up doing that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's in his deal that now I don't have to
Speaker 1: do all this other stuff. I just want to do
Speaker 1: the games like I did a Fox. But yes, if
Speaker 1: he does, it's a different animal. And also that broadcast
Speaker 1: is more scrutinized now. The many cast takes a little
Speaker 1: bit of the pressure off the main broadcast because people
Speaker 1: can go to that if they're not if they're not
Speaker 1: as interested in the game. But you know, Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: on Fox and CBS is the best window. First Off,
Speaker 1: it's the most viewed. Those games are watched by more
Speaker 1: than any other window. And secondly, everyone is doing a
Speaker 1: lot of different things on Sunday. There's more than one game.
Speaker 1: You get to watch your team on Sunday. Generally speaking,
Speaker 1: there's fantasy that's even more active than is on Monday,
Speaker 1: so the focus isn't as much on you. The broadcast
Speaker 1: team a Monday night, get a lot of bad you know,
Speaker 1: you get some bad games, focuses on the broadcast crew,
Speaker 1: and that in the defense of the Steve Levies and
Speaker 1: the grease he's at the riddics, etc. That is harder
Speaker 1: they've gotten. They have a harder task than these other teams,
Speaker 1: and when they're compared, that's sometimes kind of unfair. Romo
Speaker 1: changed all of this, didn't He Yes, so, And look
Speaker 1: from CBS's point of view, the reason they people are
Speaker 1: probably listening, why would you give Tony Romo ten years,
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight million dollars. The reason they did
Speaker 1: that is because the NFL broadcast deals were all up CBS, NBC,
Speaker 1: ESPN turned down, Amazon got involved Fox, and so ESPN
Speaker 1: wanted to get Tony Romo with the thought that that
Speaker 1: would help them get Super Bowls and get these larger deals.
Speaker 1: Because if you look at what the most important property
Speaker 1: in sports in television overall, eighty five of the top
Speaker 1: one hundred shows are the NFL. So the reason they
Speaker 1: did that they wanted Romo on their side. Could they
Speaker 1: have gotten them cheaper if they've you know, negotiate a
Speaker 1: little bit differently, probably, But it didn't happen that way
Speaker 1: it worked out. I could go through a hundred different
Speaker 1: things that worked out for Romo and he ended up
Speaker 1: with that crazy contract ten years, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: million dollars, And then you have the ripple effect. Of course,
Speaker 1: Achman sees that, you know, he was making around seven million,
Speaker 1: you know, in that range at that point, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm the you know, I'm a better quarterback Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer and I've been doing this for twenty years as
Speaker 1: a number one. Why am I not paid that much?
Speaker 1: And now he is? Yeah, you just do they really matter?
Speaker 1: I think when I am I gonna stay? Am I
Speaker 1: going to tune into a game because Tony Romo is
Speaker 1: doing it? Am I going to tune in for Troy Aikman?
Speaker 1: Am I tuning in? Prowl? Michaels are crazy? Like, how
Speaker 1: do these networks evaluate this that this is worth it?
Speaker 1: You're going to stay with me longer? I mean, how
Speaker 1: many of those broadcasters do we really tune in because
Speaker 1: they're doing the games? Andrew, you know, like what you
Speaker 1: do for the audience, you're the attraction, So whatever you
Speaker 1: get paid. You're listening to the Dan Patrick Show and
Speaker 1: the Dan nets and that's the show. And obviously you
Speaker 1: know the money, you know, can be similar to what
Speaker 1: this money is. Um. You know, you can tell what
Speaker 1: you make if you want dan um the huh but
Speaker 1: the uh. But when you look at the games, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: these people do not make the ratings change what they
Speaker 1: do do. Though there is a star power to it,
Speaker 1: it does feel bigger um, and that's important. And the
Speaker 1: bigger thing is it's important to the league. The league
Speaker 1: wants these boots to be feel like number one boots. UM.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, like before the Romost contract,
Speaker 1: they just mentioned why they did it. I was told
Speaker 1: by NFL brand it doesn't really matter to us. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're gonna take what
Speaker 1: the highest bids are UM for these contracts. And then
Speaker 1: in terms of watching you don't like So when you
Speaker 1: look at Fox's decision with like Kevin bark Carton, Greg Olsen,
Speaker 1: let's just say Joe buck leaves, they just have to
Speaker 1: really feel confident that comes Super Bowl Sunday next year,
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to do a good enough
Speaker 1: job that the focus isn't on them. You know, it's
Speaker 1: great if they do an amazing job, and everyone thinks
Speaker 1: they're awesome and they get great reviews. But you can't
Speaker 1: you can't have it where that the focus is for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, on your broadcast booth instead of the game.
Speaker 1: That would be you know, just pr wise, does it?
Speaker 1: Does it go dollars and cents? Doesn't matter? No? I
Speaker 1: mean the Monday night football ratings were up last year.
Speaker 1: Uh so do they really need Troy Aikman to make
Speaker 1: them go even higher? No? But they want that marquee.
Speaker 1: And especially when you're still negotiating maybe for Sunday ticket
Speaker 1: with the NFL. Uh, Amazon's about to make their booth.
Speaker 1: Uh it didn't happen, of course, you know Al Michael
Speaker 1: still might happen. But Al and Troy. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: you come in and you say, no, we'll get Troy.
Speaker 1: Not only that, we're gonna get Joe Buck. Maybe then
Speaker 1: that could that does probably help you a little bit.
Speaker 1: Who is the spot which media MVP? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: look what you like. I'm not like kissing buddy, you're
Speaker 1: our national DV. But I think with you McAfee, Colin Coward,
Speaker 1: Chris Russo, Steven Annie skip Baylist, I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: the MVP. But in terms of value, right, you're doing
Speaker 1: an entertainment value the talk show host or the big
Speaker 1: time podcast, that big cat and uh pmt pft com commenter, um,
Speaker 1: that type of person. You know, that's the show. So
Speaker 1: you could argue that again, I guess who's worth the most.
Speaker 1: Those people are probably worth the most because there's no
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick's show without Dan Patrick. There is a game
Speaker 1: without UM without the game, So I guess. So. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you you asked me this is guy, right, i'd
Speaker 1: say McAfee right now, right like he is the one
Speaker 1: who is not you know you you did this kind
Speaker 1: of you left m ESPN and started your own thing.
Speaker 1: But now McAfee's doing it where just YouTube so just
Speaker 1: the pipes. Um, he's on Serious XM but he um
Speaker 1: but so so he's treating his own. Everyone else kind
Speaker 1: of has an attachment. Like even Steven Am he's very
Speaker 1: important to ESPN. But stephen A leaves tomorrow ESPN. I
Speaker 1: don't know, do they make less money? Maybe he gi
Speaker 1: me first take makes some money. Um, and stephen A
Speaker 1: is important and can you replace steven A? You probably
Speaker 1: can replace steven A, but with who and how confident
Speaker 1: are you that you're going to get the same ratings
Speaker 1: and make as much money with that show. So I
Speaker 1: would say the talk show host type is the the
Speaker 1: opinionator is. Opinionists are the ones who probably the most valuable.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Andrew, We'll we'll be watching, We'll be reading. Great.
Speaker 1: Thanks man. That's Andrew Marshawn. He's the New York Post
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Speaker 1: video and it was from last night's Wheel of Fortune
Speaker 1: and the phrase was there was another feather in your
Speaker 1: cap and you can't. Took a very long time with
Speaker 1: the contestants. Every letter was up pretty much except for
Speaker 1: every C and P in the last word. And they
Speaker 1: probably had five or six guesses. Get they guess, nap
Speaker 1: those one ask for a g Someone said feather in
Speaker 1: your map, It's just a total feather in your lap lap. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: see I think I have a theory on how that happened, dearie.
Speaker 1: I think that the Wheel of Fortune, their um age
Speaker 1: of the viewers probably skews a little older, and I
Speaker 1: think they're trying to get in younger um viewers, so
Speaker 1: they're having younger contestants, but the younger contestants aren't familiar
Speaker 1: with phrases that maybe the older audience is. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I can see some logic in that, Yeah, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like early bird gets the warm. Yeah. I could see
Speaker 1: some twenty one year all going, what was that worm?
Speaker 1: Penny saved? Is a penny learned? Yeah? What a stitch
Speaker 1: in time? No? No w. Troy Aikman made fifty five
Speaker 1: million dollars in his career as a player. He's gonna
Speaker 1: make ninety million dollars in five years as a broadcaster
Speaker 1: the next five years. Okay, which would you rather? Would
Speaker 1: you rather make fifty five million and play for twelve
Speaker 1: year years or make ninety million and do and be
Speaker 1: a broadcaster for five years? Would I rather be Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman the player, Troy Aikman the broadcaster? Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: rather be Troy Aikman the football player. He's all Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, that's like half the money. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're still the Cowboys quarterback. Yeah, and you make a
Speaker 1: lot of money by being a Cowboys quarterback. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would rather be the Cowboys quarterback to Yeah. Sports media
Speaker 1: MVP go around the room who you think and I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't vote because then I'd vote for myself and
Speaker 1: then that's that's not fair. Um. I'm just kidding Todd that,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'll see where you're going with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just joking, all right, Sports media m vps.
Speaker 1: Who Todd? My initial though was Scoff Impelt, But I'm
Speaker 1: going Micha Wilbon. Why do we do this where we
Speaker 1: have to give one as? No, Paulie does it all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, I was gonna say giving two answers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of cheap. I'm gonna say, Michael, I don't lookause
Speaker 1: I really like PTR and he's all over the place
Speaker 1: with the NBA stuff and everything, and I just say
Speaker 1: he's very likable. You can talk about all different sports
Speaker 1: a people set. Um, you know, I'm gonna say it
Speaker 1: might be Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports. Okay, just the
Speaker 1: everything that they've built there is pretty incredible, right, Marvin,
Speaker 1: you got an MVP. Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith. Okay, he's the most important guy to me, ED, ESPN,
Speaker 1: He's everywhere they work in him like crazy. Okay, Paulie
Speaker 1: Sports MVP, Media MVP. I think there's one who's way
Speaker 1: above the rest. It's Charles Barkley. He's both a flamethrower
Speaker 1: and beloved, which almost never happens. He is the main
Speaker 1: reason most people watch the NBA and t NT. You
Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen. He's totally candid. He'll say
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to say. He never gets fired for
Speaker 1: what he says because people love him so much. He
Speaker 1: is undervalued and underpaid. Okay, so sports media VA and
Speaker 1: he's verse. You saw him doing those golf broadcasts last year.
Speaker 1: You pop up on an NFL game, people would have
Speaker 1: a blast. Yeah. And then at the same time he
Speaker 1: could do like SNL he's hosted Saturday Night Live. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see Pat McAfee too,
Speaker 1: with what McAfee has developed there, built there, and it's
Speaker 1: non traditional and he's done it in a short period
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah. Maybe Shack Yeah, honorable mention. Shack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Shack when you guys said Barkley.
Speaker 1: But he's not as important to the broadcast as Barkley is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it still comes back to Charles. He starts everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: point it's old school. But Jim Nance with CBS Sports,
Speaker 1: he's been fellow. He's helped that network so much in
Speaker 1: the past thirty years doing college basketball, golf, NFL. He
Speaker 1: does a lot for CBS. Yeah, you could throw him
Speaker 1: in the mix. Trico's very valuable for nbcum yeah, yes, time.
Speaker 1: I'd also throw Kevin Harland and Iyan Eagle in there,
Speaker 1: just because again versatility. They do a lot of different
Speaker 1: sports and bouncing around in different networks. You could put
Speaker 1: them into almost anything and they can do a really
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