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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. Usually I have this big,

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Speaker 2: bold proclamation when I'm starting, like to start bigg and

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Speaker 2: get everybody locked in. I'm just so damn excited to

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Speaker 2: be hanging out with Kevin figures. I'm gonna try my

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Speaker 2: best to give Anthony Gargano the love he wants. See

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Speaker 2: if I can do it. Good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. It's the Fellas on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio on Fox Sports Saturday. Figgy, how we feel it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't worked with you forever, and it's like a

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Speaker 2: fella's reuniting. This is I feel like I'm this squealing

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Speaker 2: girl in the airport that hasn't seen her friend in

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Speaker 2: a minute. Sorry, Brianna, don't mean this stereotype woman here,

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Speaker 2: but screaming girl in the in the airport, that's like,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I'm doing right now, Figgy.

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Speaker 3: And everybody turns around and says, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 3: This is that kind of party, like we all what

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Speaker 3: do we walk into? Fits has been a minute?

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Speaker 2: Man? How you been? This is? This is amazing to

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Speaker 2: be working with you.

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Speaker 3: It's been man, hasn't been since New Year's day that

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Speaker 3: we did this when we watched Texas and Arizona State

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Speaker 3: play in a college football playoff game. Is that the

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Speaker 3: last time we worked again?

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Speaker 2: It is? And now I get to ask you that

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Speaker 2: you were still happy that we have a kid. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like the guy without a kid always thinks about like

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Speaker 2: the guy with a newborn and with an infant at

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Speaker 2: this point, like, have you actually, over the course of

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Speaker 2: the last six months, have you gotten a combined six

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Speaker 2: hours of sleep?

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Speaker 3: How we feeling, Bud? Absolutely not. But you know what,

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Speaker 3: it's been the most amazing. He's now what fourteen months

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Speaker 3: actually knocking on the door fifteen months here next week.

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Speaker 3: Most amazing fifteen months of my life. I cannot complain.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's been absolutely amazing. He just started walking

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Speaker 3: about three weeks ago. He's the happiest kid you'll ever

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Speaker 3: meet just seeing him, and I talked to Anthony about

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Speaker 3: this on the show. Yet last week, you know, every

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Speaker 3: little thing amazes him. He's now obsessed with ceiling, fans

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Speaker 3: and lights. He walks into a room, a light turns on,

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Speaker 3: and he points and gets excited and wants to get

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Speaker 3: closer to it. And as weird as it sounds like,

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Speaker 3: to see him get so excited over the simplest thing

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Speaker 3: makes me excited because you're seeing him, you know, be

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Speaker 3: curious and learn. It's it's really amazing to witness. So

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Speaker 3: no regrets whatsoever. It's been the most amazing thing, the

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Speaker 3: most it's important thing that I've ever done in my life.

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Speaker 3: And no regrets whatsoever. It's been absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 2: That makes my heart full. And you're right, you were

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Speaker 2: working with Anthony last week. I've decided that the Fellows

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Speaker 2: this summer is kind of like the Four Horsemen, Like

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Speaker 2: there's a bunch of us. You just don't know who's

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Speaker 2: tagging in that week to be your duo. So for today,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano much deserved get in the day off as

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Speaker 2: he absolutely nobody deserves it more than Nant does. So

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Speaker 2: you got me and Kevin Figures hanging out with you.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking of you, brother last night. A

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Speaker 2: weird thing for grown ass man to say to another,

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Speaker 2: but I was thinking of you. I was sitting in

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Speaker 2: And I went to this little hole in the wall

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey man, why is there nobody here?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in like a weird towny bar

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Speaker 2: out a Texas chainsaw massacre right now. And he said

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Speaker 2: I looked up and I was like, the WNBA All Star,

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Speaker 2: going on. You could put it on a TV. And

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Speaker 2: he just laughed at me and like, look, I understand

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Speaker 2: this is a polarizing conversation because people have gotten so

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Speaker 2: dug in right now. I believe there are three silos

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Speaker 2: It's become this weird phenomenon to be either all in

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Speaker 2: there are a few people that are in the middle somewhere,

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that last night because no

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, even though she was there. Great, she's there,

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Speaker 2: she's interviewed, and she's on the mic, she's hanging out

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Speaker 2: with people, the cameras on her every three seconds, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say as someone that I

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Speaker 2: some of the W, not all of that. I enjoy

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Speaker 2: some of the W. I realize it's hard for people

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Speaker 2: to say this, figgie, but I just kept watching it,

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Speaker 2: thinking like, it is okay to say that even if

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Speaker 2: if you watch it without Kaitlyn Clark, people don't give it. Damn.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's okay to start admitting what's obviously true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and this goes into the assault on Caitlyn

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Speaker 3: Clark by some people within her league and within the

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Speaker 3: media who don't want to acknowledge the fact that she

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Speaker 3: and maybe Savior is strong. But certainly the amount of eyeballs,

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Speaker 3: the new media righte steel they signed last year, all

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Speaker 3: for the impact that she's had on the league. And

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Speaker 3: I certainly understand players within the league who say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you covered the w for years, so you have an

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Speaker 3: affinity to a certain degree. Like I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 3: fan of the WNBA, but I also don't hate it

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Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna talk trash about it just because

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. So and that's the weird kind

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Speaker 3: of nebulous opposition that I find myself in. It's like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not a big Premier league guy,

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Speaker 3: so now we're in this era now it's the in

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Speaker 2: Well and Vigie, that makes sense, Like I cannot say

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Speaker 2: the problem is you're not allowed to have that opinion anymore.

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I just hate women. And I hate

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Speaker 2: the sport and blah blah, and like I get lumped

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Speaker 2: And if I turn around and I say, actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's just out here trying to you know, it's such

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Speaker 2: think that Shane Gillis's monologue was hysterical. I loved every

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Speaker 2: So like hearing the name of somebody, I'm like, like,

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Speaker 2: everybody else I can see why the people in the

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Speaker 2: all sides on this. It's just it doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be this big, polarizing. Take The

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Speaker 2: thing that bothers me the most right now, Figgi is

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Speaker 2: what you just mentioned about the players that are standing

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Speaker 2: out and saying, I think the Chiefs are actually better

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Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, Patrick Mahomes, I love you

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Speaker 2: spending all morning talking about is Patrick Mahomes the best ever?

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Speaker 2: And having a full revolt from the rest of the

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Speaker 2: NFL players who are constantly using their microphone to educate

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Speaker 2: everybody about Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana. Like nobody gives

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Speaker 2: a damn if somebody thinks that the current player is

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Speaker 2: the best in the world. Just let it go. Just

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Speaker 2: just let it be that as a league, Like I

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Speaker 2: get the talking heads want to debate these things. Fine,

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Speaker 2: but the players, the coaches, the legends around it. Like

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Speaker 2: you never hear Dan Marino come out and say, I ainy,

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Speaker 2: these quarterbacks are fine, but they're not me and use

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Speaker 2: there has to be this We're cooler than that, we're

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Speaker 2: better than that. Just embrace the fact that right now

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Speaker 2: you have a cultural phenomenon that's as significant as Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift in some circles. Go utilize it and grow your

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Speaker 3: Yes, she's elevating the floor for everybody around her. That's

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Speaker 3: only going to make people care more about college basketball,

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Speaker 3: more about the WNBA, So embrace her. Pump her up,

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Speaker 3: don't try to bring her down because you're ultimately into it.

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Speaker 3: You're hurting your own product, you're hurting their own growth

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Speaker 3: of your sport. So that part has never stood out

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Speaker 3: to me. I've never understood that. And when it comes

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Speaker 2: That he was crazy.

431
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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to meet you there quite yet, Fitzy,

432
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 3: but I will say for an all Star game, for

433
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 3: an exhibition to your point where you're trying to draw

434
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,479
Speaker 3: in casuals and do things a little bit differently, I

435
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,160
Speaker 3: thought it was amazing. As someone who is in certain

436
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 3: senses of baseball purists, I thought that was a perfect

437
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,160
Speaker 3: way to end it. You don't have to worry about

438
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 3: tiring out more pitchers, adding and more players. It's just

439
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of a difference twist. It was a

440
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: fun way to end it. My only gripe was that

441
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 3: they you didn't have star players in the actual swing off,

442
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 3: and we come to find out that the majority of

443
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 3: the star players actually left the game before the game

444
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 3: even ended.

445
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 2: So that's fine, it's their break.

446
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 3: They came in, they did their cameo in the first

447
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,959
Speaker 3: two winnings or whatever, and they left. I'm not going

448
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 3: to take major issue with that. But overall, I think

449
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball has the best All Star Game, and

450
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,120
Speaker 3: it's probably by default just based on how the game

451
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: is played. It's really hard to lollygag playing baseball. You know,

452
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: you throw a pitch up there, you can't be will

453
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: and nilly about it and let a ball slip bout

454
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 3: of his hands because it might hit a guy in

455
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: the head if the ball's coming towards you. Your timing,

456
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 3: your rhythm, your pace. That's just how you play in basketball.

457
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 3: You can easily not play defense in football, you know

458
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 3: at the Pro Bowl when that was still the thing.

459
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 3: Guys cannot half ass rush the passer, you know, half

460
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 3: ass raise their hands on a field goal attempt.

461
00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: You just can't.

462
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 3: The game of baseball doesn't lend itself to be playing

463
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: got half mass that way. So I think just naturally

464
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: the way the game is built lends itself for people

465
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: to play be more competitive in an All Star game.

466
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: I thought Fox's production around the All Star Game. I

467
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: know you came in towards the end at the swing off,

468
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: but talking to a bunch of players, having him micd

469
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 3: up on the field talking to a player and his

470
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 3: dad at the same time while he was in the game.

471
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: I thought was really cool. The tribute to Hank Aaron

472
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 3: fighting all these things around the game in and of

473
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 3: itself to kind of liven things up for the casual viewer,

474
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: I thought was spectacular on Major League Baseball's part. And

475
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: that's why I think they have the best All Star

476
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: Game of any of the major sports. And it's really

477
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: not even close.

478
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: Well, and it is interesting because I will credit again.

479
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: These are things I'm always transparent with y'all sitting in

480
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: front of a microphone, Like the day that I got

481
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 2: hired years ago by ESPN at the time, when I

482
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: got hired by ESPN to do full time radio, I

483
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: went to the boss that was running radio at the

484
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: time and I said, look, I've never watched nine innings

485
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: of a baseball game in my life on television. I

486
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: am petrified sitting on radio every day because I don't

487
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: know anything about baseball. And the boss at ESPN Radio

488
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: at the time literally looked at me and said, you'll

489
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: talk more hockey than you will baseball, Like, just follow

490
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: it enough to be able to talk about the World

491
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: Series and you're fine, Like that was the advice I

492
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: got so like. And that's again, I'm just transparent with everybody,

493
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 2: so I'm not in a lot of ways. I don't

494
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 2: even try to pretend to anybody that I'm this baseball purist.

495
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: But I do think that they've done a beautiful job.

496
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: And I didn't really discover this until last year on

497
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: the playoff runt. I remember telling you at the time,

498
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: like my god, watching the broadcast and the ways that

499
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: they keep the game exciting now, particularly during you know,

500
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: during playoff baseball. I think they do an incredible job.

501
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: Fox does a great job with these broadcasts and keeping

502
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: things moving. And I still associated at the time TV

503
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: broadcasts with sort of what the old school local broadcasts were,

504
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: or radio broadcasts that I grew up on, which are

505
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: so slowly paced. That's part of what baseball fans love.

506
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: It's part of what drives me crazy. It's why I

507
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: enjoy going to baseball games live, because you have a

508
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: lot of stimulus while you're there. They're just things that

509
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: make you feel great. You know. I've gone to a

510
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: few Red Sox games this year. I go to a

511
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: bunch of minor league games, like I enjoy going to

512
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: the games live, just not watching it on TV. To

513
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: your point, those broadcast moments become huge when you've got

514
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: all stars that are miked up. I just think that

515
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: that makes it interesting and that's one thing that baseball

516
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: is doing a great job of. I will go back

517
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: to the W quickly and say, look, last year, for

518
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: my work with Yahoo, they we went to the W

519
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: people and said, hey, we'd like to send some people

520
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: to the WNBA All Star Game to cover maybe do

521
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: some fun content, me included. And the W turned around

522
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: and basically said no. They turned around and said, no,

523
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: we don't need people coming in now just because it's

524
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: a spectacle if we want to reward the people that

525
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: have been covering it forever. And I was like, well

526
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: I have just because you and the number of times

527
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: I could tell people that the WNBA has not given

528
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: stars to radio, they have not given stars for interviews,

529
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: and then they can plain about how often they're not covered,

530
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: and they make it very difficult. My opposite experience of

531
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: that the one time ESPN sent us to the Major

532
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: League Baseball All Star Game festivities in DC at the time,

533
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: and it was we were treated like golden gods, and

534
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: knowing that we didn't do a great job covering baseball.

535
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 2: They wanted to be like, hey, we're going to get

536
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: you to fall in love with the sport. I think

537
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: that's the opportunity with these all star games. And you're right,

538
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: like the way, even the way, even though the players

539
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: left early and I know that was a hubbub whatever, fine,

540
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: but you never once felt like the lead up to it,

541
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: the players were not into it.

542
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: I think that's a key to all of this. It does,

543
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: and that your story is very disappointing. It's almost as

544
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: if and I don't want to project, and I don't

545
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: know what the motivation was. Maybe they were busy, I

546
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: don't know. You play the victim long enough that it

547
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: almost becomes your identity, so you start sabotaging the ability

548
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: for yourself to not view yourself that way. When media establishments,

549
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: legit media organizations come in and say, we want to

550
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: cover your sport. We want to, you know, extend your footprint,

551
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: we want to talk to your stars, and you say no,

552
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: because you weren't here before. You weren't a day one.

553
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: To your point, you mentioned this last segment, we're here now.

554
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: This is only gonna help grow your footprint and make

555
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: you more popular and make you stand out more. Why

556
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: would you say no to that? The last league on

557
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 3: this planet that should be saying no to media opportunities

558
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: to exposure is the WNBA, because I know they're having

559
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: their moment now, but the arrow is not going to

560
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: point up all the time bubbles pop eventually. I'm not

561
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: saying that that's gonna happen, but I mean take advantage

562
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: of this opportunity and grasp on to every single solitary

563
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: person that wants to show some interest in you as

564
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: you possibly can.

565
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: Why you would turn something like that away.

566
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 3: That blows my mind that they would actually tell you, no,

567
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: we're not going to give you any access. No, we're

568
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: not gonna let you talk to star players. That is

569
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: self sabotage to the nth degree. That's insane to me

570
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: that that happened to you.

571
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: Which is again why people scream and yell all the

572
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: time about the teams in the leagues that don't get coverage,

573
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: and what so often they're not away of is you

574
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: know the times that teams and leagues simply refuse to

575
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: give you access to things, and so then if you

576
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: don't get access, you can't cover them, and then if

577
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: you turn around and loudly say it at the time,

578
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: then you're damaging your relationship with your partner sort of, right,

579
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: So like I can't if I'm sitting here trying to

580
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 2: get into it, Like I no longer care if the

581
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: WNBA is going to ever invite me to an All

582
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: Star game to cover it. By the way, I'm not

583
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: asking for comp tickets to sit out, like I'm asking

584
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: for immedia credential to cover the events. I don't care

585
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: if they If they do that anymore, I don't. I

586
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: don't really have to sit there and worry about it

587
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But certainly they've never made it.

588
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: Even back when I was working with Sarah Spain and

589
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: in the very beginning of our show, Sarah said I

590
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: want a weekly WNBA guest, And the number of times

591
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: we went to teams and we're like, hey, national radio show,

592
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: we want to have you're a player on like the

593
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Aces of whom I'm a fan. Never have

594
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: have have literally never given a player to any show

595
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: I've ever hosted, even when Sarah Spain was making the ask.

596
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: And we all know that if you live in this

597
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: this business, in this industry, if you were on Twitter

598
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: the other night you saw our tweets about it, Like,

599
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: Sarah's been covering women's sports better than anybody for an

600
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: incredibly long time, and when we asked for aces players,

601
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: they're like, not, we're busy. We just couldn't get them,

602
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: Like they're just so. You know, at some point when

603
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: people yell and scream about the lack of coverage, again,

604
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: I'll get baseball credit. I have never had that experience

605
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: with the number of times you can reach out to

606
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: a baseball team and say, hey, we'd really like to

607
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: have this superstar and they're like, hey, we'll do what

608
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: we can. At least they're trying. And that's what I

609
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: want everybody to do, is just try and grow their sport.

610
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: And that's something that baseball has been criticized over the

611
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: years for not trying to reach out to younger demographics

612
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: to make themselves available. And Rob Manford has taken a

613
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: lot of incoming over his tenure, and I think rightfully

614
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: so the Astros thing, a lot of different things have

615
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: gone wrong, but you know, marketing the sport better, speeding

616
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: up the pace to bring in a younger audience, the

617
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: fact that the pitch clock you know, you talked about

618
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: how baseball was very slow. The pace has been picked

619
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: up over these last couple of years with the bigger

620
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 3: bases and the pitch clock, and it's drawn in a

621
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: younger audience. I mean, the viewership Internet has gone up.

622
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: They've done a lot of innovative things to try to

623
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: try to modernize.

624
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: Their game and make it appealing.

625
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: Keep the appeal to the old school fans, we're also

626
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: trying to appeal to a younger generation in opening things

627
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: up and making guys available. I think the baseball has

628
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: really knocked it out of the park. I guess pun

629
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: fully intended over these last couple of years, and how

630
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: someone like a league like the WNBA can't grasp onto

631
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: that and say like, look, this is an example of

632
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: what you should do, as opposed to just sitting off

633
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: from the corner and saying like you are with us

634
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: from day one.

635
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: So therefore we're just going to do our own thing.

636
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: That blows my mind.

637
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: But from just from an All Star Games situation in general,

638
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: since we have WNBA coming up this weekend in Major

639
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: League Baseball earlier this past week, I guess what is

640
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: your general taken on All Star Games? Do they still

641
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: serve the purpose that they initially intended, One to reward

642
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: the players and two to just be an all out

643
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: showcase for the league in the sport in general, the

644
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: show Hey, here's our best talent on display, all in

645
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: one place. I guess now that all these sports are

646
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: so global international, I get, is it really necessary anymore

647
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: to have an All Star game?

648
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: No? And the problem is, I mean, you need to break,

649
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: you want to honor your stars, all of these things, YadA, YadA, YadA.

650
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Last year, the NHL stumbled, and I do mean stumbled

651
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: for a league I love, they stumbled onto four nations.

652
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Four Nations became a phenomenon for him. But let's remember

653
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: that four Nations was meant to be sort of an

654
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: Olympic teaser more than the All Star Game. Right there,

655
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: This is a way to get people psyched for the Olympics.

656
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: And it became this phenomenon that they should do all

657
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: the time. Four Nations should be something they do constantly.

658
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: It would be incredible that being said, let's go back

659
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: to our childhood, right The NBA All Star Game mattered

660
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: because when I was a kid, you rarely got to

661
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: see like the NBA on NBC mattered because there wasn't

662
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get league passed. You couldn't just watch

663
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: every game every time. You were lucky, lucky. When I

664
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: was a kid, if there were maybe ten or fifteen

665
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: times a year that Michael Jordan was on now TV,

666
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: you were lucky. And so the number of times in

667
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: regular season NBA basketball that you would actually see Michael

668
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: or Magic or Larry Bird or Charles Barklay was it

669
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: was limited. And my god, you might see It's almost

670
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: like back then you only saw hall Cogan wrestle at WrestleMania.

671
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: The rest here he was just talking, right, So WrestleMania

672
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: was a big deal because hal Cogan was actually in

673
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: the ring. Now, WWE does a pay per view every

674
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: six weeks and you see these superstars every time, and

675
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: it's just I don't think it can resonate the same

676
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: way at the time when you only get the rare

677
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: opportunity to see Magic versus you know, Michael in any way,

678
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: shape or form, it matters. So the All Star Game,

679
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: my god, you're getting all of them at once. Good Lord,

680
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: like that. That has to mean something to everybody. Now,

681
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you get these clips, you get these games,

682
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: you get these opportunities to see every superstar every single night.

683
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: Nothing is special in that process. So I don't know

684
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: how you make an All Star game special when you

685
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: have more access and familiarity with every single superstar than

686
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: you've ever had.

687
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you summed it up perfectly, you know, as and

688
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: as someone as a kid back in the day who

689
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: didn't even have cable TV. So I didn't even get

690
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: TN t ORGASTN games back.

691
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: In the day. So we were rich enough to have that.

692
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: Come on, figure, like, let the people know, like back

693
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: then you didn't, like you could actually just have an

694
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: antenna on your TV y'all, and you could just get

695
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: the basic stations and that was normal. That was like,

696
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: that was a noise. It wasn't that you were poor

697
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: if you did that, it was you were rich if

698
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: your family could afford cable And like, my god, if

699
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: you were the kid on the block that had HBO, man,

700
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna be your friend even if I didn't

701
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: like you, just because like had HBO.

702
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, So to your point, you know, the chance

703
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 3: to see Michael Jordan or Magic, if you didn't live

704
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: in La or anywhere across the Mark, you would have

705
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: to wait for the NBA on NBC on a given

706
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday afternoon and hope that a star player

707
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: was playing, you know, and that would be your only

708
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: opportunity to see them, and then to see all these

709
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: players face off against each other in an All Star game,

710
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, if you were I don't know, I'll just

711
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: pull a random name out of a Tracey McGrady in

712
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: Orlando or whatever who didn't who was a great player

713
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: but didn't get a lot of national exposure. Literally, your

714
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: only time to see them might have been the All

715
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: Star game on NBC back in the day. That's how

716
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 3: bad it was. And so now to your point, now

717
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: that we have lead pass and things are so accessible

718
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: and highlights are uploaded after games literally seconds after games

719
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: end on YouTube or TikTok or anywhere else, it's just

720
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: not a novelty anymore to be able to say, oh

721
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: my god, I got a chance to see so and

722
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: so playing. It's like, yeah, I saw him play Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday,

723
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: so did I. So it's the novelty has worn off.

724
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: And so you add that on top of the fact

725
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: that the players obviously do not care anymore, and granted

726
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: there's clips from back in the eighties and nineties. Two

727
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 3: if there's glorified layup lines or layup drills in All

728
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: Star games here and there, but the intensity would ratchet

729
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: up when it matter at most. Now these guys literally

730
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: do not care. So if the players don't care, why

731
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: do the fans care? And so that's why there's a

732
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: lot of apathy towards the NBA All Star Game and

733
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl always is and always has been kind

734
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: of a bit of a joke and really was just

735
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: a way for guys to have a vacation to Hawaii,

736
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: and once they moved it, it really less than the

737
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: incentive for the players who were elected to even go anymore.

738
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: So now you have all these guys who are like,

739
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm a pro bowler. It was like, yeah, but you

740
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: were a fifth alternate, so where you're really a pro bowler?

741
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: So go on. That whole point though, speaks to part

742
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: of what I think maybe we've missed on load management too. Like, yeah,

743
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: in the eighties and nineties, every televised basketball game was

744
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: a special occurrence because it meant something that you were

745
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: actually on national TV. The bubblah buh blah, but basketball

746
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: mattered you didn't see it very often, so even for

747
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: the players, they had to get stoked for it. Now

748
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: you're on TV every single night. Everybody's ripping through every

749
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: highlight every single night. Like, none of it can feel special.

750
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Like if you had to miss a random game because

751
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: you were hungover. In the nineties, which was real, nobody

752
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: was talking about it because it was just a random game.

753
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: It probably wasn't televised, and it really wasn't a conversation piece.

754
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Now every single ounce of it is televised. How does

755
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: any of it feel special to the crowd, How does

756
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: any of it feel special to the fans, and how

757
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: does any of it really feel special to the players?

758
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Like that that has to trickle down into We'll keep

759
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: breaking this down because this is interesting to me. Plus,

760
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: whether you go to a game or you go to

761
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: a concert, one thing we've all learned in the last

762
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: forty eight hours, don't take your side piece. I'll explain

763
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,960
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764
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. A ton of

765
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,320
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766
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: say the word shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube.

767
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320
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768
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769
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,240
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770
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Speaker 2: on YouTube. Cephellas He's Kevin Figures, I'm Jason Fitz Anthony

771
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Speaker 2: Gargano getting a Saturday morning off as he rightfully deserves.

772
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: In July figuring, I don't know what somebody expects when

773
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: they're at a concert, but privacy shouldn't be one of them.

774
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: And the Internet has been blowing up over you know,

775
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: a CEO caught. We've all seen the story at this point.

776
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what what anybody's thinking in

777
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: that situation. I don't know how how brash you have

778
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: to be to decide that you're gonna go to a

779
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Coldplay concert and struggle with your head of HR and

780
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: think that nobody's gonna see it anywhere and a bunch

781
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: of other employees are around or not. There's dispute on that,

782
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: but you know, they happen to get caught on the

783
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: on the kiss cam. And here's the most important thing.

784
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: I think kiss cam should be forever now branded the

785
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: Coldplay Kiss Camp. It's good, you know, it's just a

786
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: good reminder to everybody if you're out with your side

787
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: piece at any sort of event where there are cameras,

788
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: you could get caught. What do you expect, Like, maybe

789
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: don't have a side piece, But then if you're not

790
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: gonna have a side if you are gonna have a

791
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: side piece, maybe don't trot out into the edge of

792
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: your suite. It's just let you know, out in the

793
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: open air snuggling with them during a Coldplay song. It's

794
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: a private event. What do you mean.

795
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 3: It's not like there's thousands of people and then dozens

796
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: of cameras there. What do you mean that's a private

797
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: moment between he and his HR director And how dare

798
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: anybody put the camera on them? It's ridiculous. I can't

799
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: believe that statement. So there was a fake statement that

800
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: was floating around before his actual statement came out, and

801
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: I was still wondering if the actual statement was fake

802
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: based on how it ended, because it made absolutely no

803
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: sense whatsoever. It truly is amazing how seemingly smart people

804
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: can be so stupid at times, you know, and so brash,

805
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: And maybe it's not even stupidity fits he Maybe it's

806
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: just being brash and just being you know, confident that

807
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: they're not going to show us it doesn't matter. And

808
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: if he did, if he indeed was up there with

809
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of other co workers, that speaks to just

810
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: a culture issue within the comp company that goes beyond,

811
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: you know, any sort of just the basics of an affair.

812
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: But it was it.

813
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: Not only has it blown up, the internet is undefeated

814
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: because there have been meme after meme that have popped

815
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: up of different people, and in this position between the

816
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: two of them, there's like Patrick Mahomes hugging a referee.

817
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good memes out there floating

818
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: out there. If you're on Instagram or if you're on

819
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: X that's pretty funny taking advantage of this. But yes,

820
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: be the best thing they could have happened for Coldplay,

821
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: because now they wanted to slap their name. One is, Hey,

822
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: you want to be sponsored by Coalplay? Sponsored by our

823
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: next concert tour? Why not? I mean, I think it's

824
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: I think it'd be a genius on their part if

825
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: they could do it.

826
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: It's they should sell a branded ticket. Now that's in

827
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: the uh no camera section for all the people looking

828
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: for infidelity at a concert. I don't know, man, Like,

829
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: it's just the entire thing. And I read that statement too,

830
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: and I thought his actual statements came out. For anyone

831
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: that didn't see it, it came out and essentially at the

832
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: end blamed society as a whole for or not respecting

833
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: privacy and you know, having a private moment blasted all

834
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: over and it's like, well, what did what did you expect? Dude?

835
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Like you are a person in a position of power

836
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: that was doing something that's absolutely asinine and you did

837
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: it in a way that you know you got caught.

838
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: And I just think there is it. We live in

839
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: such a forgiving second chance society. We live in a

840
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: society that is desperate to give ninety nine percent of

841
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: people a random second chance, even if they don't deserve it.

842
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: So the number of times you can come out and

843
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, guys, I'm really sorry, I

844
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: screwed up and I'm really sorry, and people will flock

845
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: to try and forgive you and give you a second chance.

846
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: And if you if you don't get that, then everybody

847
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: flocks to the he's getting canceled. Do that right? Like

848
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: so like that's the world we live in. Now. All

849
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: you had to do is come out and say you

850
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: know what I did a terrible thing. I embarrass myself,

851
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: I embarrass my family. I gotta figure out how to

852
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: get this right. I gotta figure out how to get

853
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: my life in order. And to everybody that has trusted me,

854
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Boom and this dog, that's all you gotta say,

855
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: like and then then just disappear, don't say another damn

856
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: thing for the next six months in any way that

857
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: you don't have to, and that that, to me is

858
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: the logical way to do this and instead coming out

859
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: and essentially, you know, blaming Coldplay for putting you on

860
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: camera is like, God, how how stupid are you? For

861
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: a smart person? Like there's a difference. My brother used

862
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: to always say, like, you know, there's a difference between

863
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: book smart and street smart always and you know, there's

864
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: this point for me where I this is such a living, eating,

865
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: breathing proof of that inside, which a loud, tangible way

866
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: like you just be be some combination of intelligent enough

867
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: that you don't step on your own you know what,

868
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: even more, which you did. And I'm it's a phenomenon

869
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: to me that's not gonna go away, Like he's going

870
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 2: to be memed forever. I feel bad for his wife

871
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: and kids. He's going to be memed forever. He will.

872
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: But I mean he or he earned it, deserves it,

873
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, I mean for fraternizing.

874
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, that the ultimate no knows is

875
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: that you don't date somebody within your own office, someone

876
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: that that reports to you one and especially as someone

877
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: who's an HR director. This is like something out of

878
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: a TV show. To be honest with you, it almost

879
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: doesn't even seem real.

880
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

881
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: But to your point, you can't be in a public

882
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: form and say that your private that your privacy uh

883
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: was impinged upon when you're at an actual stadium with

884
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: thousands of people. That's the part that people, Hey, look,

885
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: you talk about people being a forgiving society. We've seen

886
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: this happen multiple times. People that fall on the sword,

887
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: people that say, like, you know what I screwed up?

888
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: And what was it?

889
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Was it a Jason Giambi who said I did steroids

890
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: whatever like and people forgave them two weeks later, wasn't

891
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: a story anymore. But people who deny, deny, deny, deny,

892
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: end up getting ostracized because they know that you're lying

893
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 3: about it and you're doubling down on it.

894
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: So if you if you had just.

895
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: Stuck with this apology and left out the privacy portion

896
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: of it, everybody would forget. Maybe you'd have to step

897
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 3: down as CEO, but he'd stay on as a member

898
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: of the board, and maybe he can be a CEO

899
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: of another company a couple of years from now. Now

900
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: that you double down on something like that, who wants

901
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: to associate themselves with you?

902
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody would ever wants to it

903
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: is it's wild to see how fast things move. And look,

904
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of friends now that have the metaglasses,

905
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: the ray band Meta glasses. I don't know if you've

906
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: seen these, but for anyone that hasn't, they're just they're

907
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: regular ray band sunglasses and they also record, and they're

908
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: awesome because, like, if you're out doing something fun, it's

909
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: a great way to record it. You get great footage.

910
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: But it's also a reminder that pressing literally a tiny

911
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: button on the side of your sunglasses turns your sunglasses

912
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: into a recording device. Like we you have have to

913
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: assume now everywhere you go that you're on camera, whether

914
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: you want to be or not. You're on camera everywhere.

915
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: So if you're going to be a Karen in the

916
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Starbucks or you're going to be out with your side

917
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: piece at coldplay, you're likely going to get caught doing it.

918
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: Thousand percent. Your privacy is gone as soon as you

919
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: set foot outside of your front door. You know, that's

920
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: advice that I've given to my little cousins over the

921
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: past couple of years. Assume that everything you do outside

922
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: of your house is viewable to the public in some way,

923
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: shape or form. You're always you're always on tape. You

924
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: live your life that way, You'll be okay.

925
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Like also, just don't have a side piece,

926
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: all right. College football changing, but we'll figure out exactly

927
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: how and what it means next the fellas on Fox

928
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

929
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

930
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: The only constant in college football right now is change,

931
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: and that's a constant that scares the college football fan base.

932
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: But the question is, when all the dust settles, who's

933
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: going to figure out what it looks like? How's it

934
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: going to look and there's everybody still going to be

935
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: madly in love with it. It's a complicated issue with

936
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: a lot of different variables that we're trying to figure

937
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: out it's fellas on Fox Sports Radio. He's Kevin Figures.

938
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz coming at you from the Fox Sports studios,

939
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: and look, Figury, you and I both share a love

940
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: of college football, and you and I both have I

941
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: think over the course of the last couple of years,

942
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: talked a lot about the changes that are coming. And

943
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: the wild part about it is, this is a frustrating

944
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: thing to me. We're barely in the first change before

945
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: we're already obsessed with the next change. And you know,

946
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: as SEC media days, we saw Eli Drinkwich, the head

947
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: coach of Missouri, suggests a thirty team college football player,

948
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: like everybody has some theory on what it should look like,

949
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: and half the people listening are going to send some

950
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 2: wild like people do this all the time. They start tweeting,

951
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, oh, you know, actually, like this is

952
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: what they should do. Okay, I realize everybody has an opinion.

953
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: The number one thing that I want college football to

954
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: figure out is what the hell are you doing? And

955
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: how do we just rip the band off to get

956
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: us to whatever the new normal is so we can

957
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: start to live in the new normal instead of just

958
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: getting to the new normal, only to worry about what

959
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: next change is coming. Yeah.

960
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: See, that's the problem because to your point, it's such

961
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: a multi layered process and there's so many hurdles to

962
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: jump through, you know, financial, legal, all that, it's not

963
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: going to get sussed out over the course of a

964
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: handful of years. We're probably talking about the next decade

965
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: of how this situation is going to evolve. Whether you're

966
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: talking about the portal or NIL or realignment and television contracts,

967
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: the playoff, all these things are obviously relevant and tied together,

968
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: but they're all individual battles that needs to be fought

969
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: in the giant war that is college football that we're

970
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: in right now. And that's the issue. So far as

971
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: many of these people that say I just want to

972
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 3: get to the game, to start playing games on the field,

973
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: out to a certain degree, I'm with that too, But

974
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: the business aspect of it can't be discounted because it

975
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: affects so many different things.

976
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of layers to it.

977
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: So as frustrating as it is, it's a necessary battle

978
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: because the way things were going was untenable. The BCS

979
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: was ridiculous. The fact that kids had to do, you know,

980
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: under the table handshake agreements to make a couple of

981
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: shekels while you know, these conferences were making billions of dollars.

982
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: Was ridiculous. And the issue is everything has come to

983
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: a head all at one time, as opposed to being

984
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: parceled out over the course of years. And that's what

985
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: makes things so complicated and difficult to grasp at this

986
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: point in time, and almost overwhelming for a lot of

987
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: people who don't follow it on a day to day basis.

988
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: So I understand the fan who just says, I don't

989
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: care about any of this stuff. I just want to

990
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: see football played on the field. I certainly understand the sentiment.

991
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and there's part of me here. This is. Look,

992
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: any any die hard fan of a sport hates change,

993
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: but particularly when you start talking about you know, old school.

994
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: This is this is the fandom that's been ingrained to

995
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: me for generations. I think major League Baseball and college

996
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: football share that, like this is a this is what

997
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: I always refer to as a great grandpa sport, Like

998
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: my great grandpa is a fan, and my grandpa's a fan,

999
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: and my dad's a fan, and I'm a fan. And

1000
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: like it just keeps going generation in a generation thatcherup

1001
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: hates change, and college football fans have always hated change.

1002
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: So even though change is inevitable in the sport, at

1003
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: some point you just gotta you gotta realize if you're

1004
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: gonna make your fan base uncomfortable, then do it once

1005
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: and get everybody back on solid footing. The problem is

1006
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: because there was never a college footballs are and because

1007
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: nobody can really figure out what that looks like, how

1008
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: do you how do you come up with the new

1009
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: standard in practice? Like how do you have a new

1010
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: standard operating procedure? When the SEC wants one thing, the

1011
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Big ten wants another thing, and everybody else sitting around

1012
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: has to realize at some point that what they want

1013
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: is insignificant, Like what what the you know, existing Mountain

1014
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: West teams and you know, even what the Big twelve

1015
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: teams want today doesn't matter because if the SEC and

1016
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: the Big Ten decide that they're going to take the

1017
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: ball and go play in their own sandbox, everybody else

1018
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: is screwed. And that that's a harsh reality that I

1019
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: think certain fan bases continue to not accept at this point.

1020
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Guess what the SEC and the Big Ten own you,

1021
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: and they own college football. They're gonna do what they want,

1022
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: and if you choose not to participate in that, you're

1023
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: just gonna be left behind like that.

1024
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: That's just real for everybody. Yeah, and it's to your point.

1025
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: It's a hard reality to have to accept. And I

1026
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: certainly understand people want to stand on their own merit

1027
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: and feel that they can compete, but unfortunately the reality

1028
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: is you can. You know, those are the best teams,

1029
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: those are the teams that are dominating in multiple sports.

1030
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: By the way, it's not just football. I know that's

1031
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: the king, but we're talking basketball, we're talking baseball. The

1032
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: SEC just won a national championship and does almost routinely

1033
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: on a year in, year out basis. That's just how

1034
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: the world is controlled at this point in time. And

1035
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: so unless and until and I think their TV contracts

1036
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: are up in twenty thirty or twenty thirty three something

1037
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: like that, you know, that's really where everything's gonna come

1038
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: to a head. But the issue is things are changing

1039
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: and evolving so quickly. Before that, there's gonna be revisions

1040
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: and revisions to the revisions. That's why you know, we

1041
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: had Greg Senki at the SEC media days talking about like, well,

1042
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: you know what, we can stick with the two team playoff,

1043
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: when the entire discussion for the past year, since the

1044
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: last year's twelve team playoff came in, was that this

1045
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: might last for a year, possibly two. We're going to sixteen.

1046
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen inevitably, and now we're saying we're not

1047
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: so sure. And it's this standoff. I can't even say

1048
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: it's a cold war standoff between the Big ten and

1049
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: the SEC. It's pretty well explicit. Tony Petiti in the

1050
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: Big ten and one one thing, the SEC wants another.

1051
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: And to your point, Big twelve, ACC Pack two or

1052
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, if that's what's gonna end up being again,

1053
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: we're all just kind of sitting waiting in the wings,

1054
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: waiting to say, like, all right, just make sure we

1055
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: have a seat at the table. It might scream as unfair,

1056
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 3: but that's the unfortunate reality. As college football specifically goes,

1057
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: or I should say, as the Big Ten and the

1058
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: SEC goes, so does the future of college football.

1059
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, I don't think that's wrong. I

1060
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: keep saying this, and I got in a little bit

1061
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: of heat on two pros earlier this week from Fantasy.

1062
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: Didn't like to hear this, but like, the sad reality

1063
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: at this point is that there are a ton of

1064
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: college football programs that to the masses don't and won't matter,

1065
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: Like I just as much as people right now want

1066
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: to screen. There's certain things we were talking earlier about,

1067
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: you know, WNBA becoming almost like a virtues stealing thing,

1068
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Like there are certain things that people are like, oh,

1069
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: what does it mean for all of the other athletes,

1070
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: but you you don't really care about that. Like I

1071
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: helped at the time several years ago try and fight

1072
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: to save swimming and diving at Michigan State and quickly

1073
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: realized that my efforts were futile because nobody gives a damn.

1074
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: They just don't right, So, and people don't like to

1075
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: admit that. It's hard to say, but the grand scheme

1076
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: of things, most people are not going to sit here

1077
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: and say, well, football needs to be limited because we

1078
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: got to save swimming and diving. They don't care, right

1079
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: And at some level I realize that people like to

1080
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: watch football every night of the week. Sure, the Utah

1081
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: States of the world and the Connecticuts of the world,

1082
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Like there's a place for those football programs. It's just

1083
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: if it's not with the big boys. At the end

1084
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: of the day, not a lot of people are going

1085
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: to lose sleep. Like, if you're a Connecticut football fan,

1086
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: then if Connecticut ends up being essentially Division III, then

1087
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: that's fine. You'll be fine. You'll enjoy it. It'll be good. Like, Hey,

1088
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: people out there love University Wisconsin Whitewater, Like, the same

1089
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: thing is gonna happen. There's gonna be a haves and

1090
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: have nots, and there's gonna be a lot of teams

1091
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: left behind. But this is at some point, this is

1092
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: all about money. It's a doggy dog survival world. Like

1093
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: you either make it or you don't. And if you

1094
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: don't make it, if you can't raise the money to

1095
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: consistently compete, it's not up to everybody else to throttle

1096
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: it back to try and keep giving you the illusion

1097
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: that your favorite team can compete. It's up to you

1098
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: to figure out if you can rise to the cream,

1099
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: and if you can't, then figure out your own sandbox

1100
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: to go play it.

1101
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: I certainly understand the issues that a lot of these

1102
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: schools that were haves and all of a sudden no

1103
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: our have nots are are facing because this is a

1104
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: professional sports where you can be a downtroden franchise and

1105
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: just here's a billion dollar owner that can come in

1106
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: and buy. They're not gonna come in and buy Oregon

1107
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: State and make them into a giant, relevant college football

1108
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: program and make sure everybody wants to come to Corvallis.

1109
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: And it just doesn't work that way in college sports.

1110
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: So Oregon State was relevant when they were in the

1111
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: Pac twelve slash Pack ten, and that that's no longer

1112
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: a Power five conference. They're going to get knocked down

1113
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: a pig and they're not gonna necessarily have the chance

1114
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: to compete on a high level like they used to,

1115
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: which means fewer good recruits, you know, which means fewer

1116
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: good games, which means probably fewer less less money coming

1117
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: into your call fers from a TV contract standpoint. So

1118
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: I certainly can sympathize with you know, those are empathized,

1119
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 3: I guess with with those sort of schools that are

1120
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: losing out on something knowing that there's no way they're

1121
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: ever going to be able to get it back. Now

1122
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: to your point, people around the country don't necessarily care

1123
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: because they never cared about Washington State or Oregon State

1124
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: or UNLV or any of these other schools anyway. But

1125
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: for those sective fan bases, that was part of the

1126
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: community to have that ray of hope that hey, once

1127
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: every seven years we might have a chance to jump

1128
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: up and actually do something special that gets stolen from them.

1129
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: So I can certainly understand the feeling of loss when

1130
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 3: it comes to that we were once part of the

1131
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: big boy table and now all of a sudden, we

1132
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: no longer are. So that's a tough pill to swallow

1133
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: for a lot of these schools.

1134
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: I get that, But like, that's it's just part of

1135
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: what happens in so many businesses, Like you know, certainly

1136
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: how many tech startups are left behind, and how many

1137
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: companies that you know, make widgets are eventually left behind,

1138
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: and it stinks for all the people that worked really

1139
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: hard for it. Like you know, how many music acts

1140
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: are a headliner in the nineties and then all of

1141
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, fifteen years later, they're playing yacht rock cruises

1142
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: because nobody cares anymore. Like that's just that's what happens.

1143
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: Like it's a harsh reality, and that's why I keep saying,

1144
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: like Oregon State's a perfect example of a place that,

1145
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: you know what, football is not going to go away

1146
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: for them. If they don't want it to. They just

1147
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: may not play the Alabamas of the world anymore. They

1148
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: may be relegated into their own different subsect of people

1149
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: that choose not to or can't. It doesn't have to

1150
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: be a choice. You just can't compete at that, you know,

1151
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million dollars a year. Whatever it's

1152
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: eventually going to get to like the college football I

1153
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: think is going to end up looking like the NFL.

1154
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: And when it does, the nice thing is that you

1155
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: control it. I'll explain what I mean, Like, at the

1156
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 2: end of the day, we're all trying to figure out

1157
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: how to save something when in reality there are a

1158
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: ton of these programs that can save it themselves. I'll

1159
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: explain what I mean. Next. Coming up, he's Kevin Figures.

1160
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,960
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1161
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,520
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1175
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: So Fellas on Fox Sports Radio, Kevin Figures, Jason, Anthony

1176
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: Gargano getting Saturday off. See, this is a perfect example.

1177
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: It's a perfect example. It's you gon to lead us

1178
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: right into college football. Backstreet Boys are playing right now,

1179
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: by the way. Got to get to the sphere. Got

1180
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: to get to this, fear My buddy Michael Junior went

1181
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: last night. I am incredibly jealous, Figgy. Here's the thing.

1182
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: Backstreet Boys can go in and they can sell out

1183
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: the sphere. Believe me, they have. The ticket prices are atrocious, right.

1184
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: They can go out and they can sell that out

1185
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: every single night. And because they can sell that out,

1186
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: they can charge an arm and a leg and they

1187
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: can make it absolutely unaffordable. And they can tell everybody.

1188
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: They got to fly to Vegas, and everybody will flock

1189
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: to do it, and they will spend the money for

1190
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: the hotel rooms, and they will spend the money for

1191
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: the sphere tickets upwards of one thousand dollars a ticket

1192
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: on the aftermarket. The fans will go in all whites,

1193
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: and they will do everything. They will go to the

1194
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: after party at the Venetian like, they will have a

1195
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: blast doing this whole thing, and they will spend a

1196
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: vacations worth the money go to a concert because they can.

1197
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: Now if in that same sphere we put ninety eight

1198
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: degrees and nobody bought tickets to it, we wouldn't be

1199
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: sitting here saying, oh my god, what are we gonna do?

1200
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: How are we gonna save ninety eight degrees? Like, at

1201
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you are what your popularity

1202
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: allows you to be in so many situations. And while

1203
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: I sit here and lament for the future of college football,

1204
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: for certain programs I also kind of don't like. For years,

1205
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: it's been accepted that there are certain programs that are

1206
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: more popular than others. It's been accepted there are certain

1207
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: programs that simply start every year knowing that they don't

1208
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: have a wild chance in hell at a national championship,

1209
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: and they still have something to play for. They'll still

1210
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: have something to play for. You can still go see

1211
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: ninety eight degrees at your local community theater for a

1212
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: few thousand people, right, Like, you can figure out a

1213
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: way to do that. If you're one of the dozens

1214
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: of die hard fans of some of these college football

1215
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: programs that are smaller, then you just find something else

1216
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: to do. But this concept that we have to save everybody, Like,

1217
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: the thing to me is that college football right now

1218
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: is presenting a college sports are presenting a tremendous save

1219
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: yourself opportunity. If you really want to compete, raise the

1220
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: money to do it, and you can't raise the money

1221
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: to do it, then that's not my problem to save you. Like,

1222
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: it sucks for some of those fans, and it breaks

1223
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: my heart for some of those fans, but it is

1224
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: not the job of everybody else to throttle back college

1225
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: football to try and save the teams that realistically didn't

1226
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: have a shot at a national championship from the outset

1227
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: of the season. Anyway.

1228
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, never die. I guess that Nickolas, she will

1229
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: be taking strays on the show this morning. But that's

1230
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: where we are. That's number one. But it's quite all

1231
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: right as far as the college fall situation goes. But

1232
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: you're you're right though. You know that the business continues

1233
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: to grow, Things move on, and unfortunately sometimes it just

1234
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: outgrows you to a certain degree and there's really nothing

1235
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: you can do about it. You can complain. I certainly

1236
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: understand the gripe. But as the business gets bigger and

1237
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger, this is what happens. This is what

1238
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: happens in professional sports. On a different level. You know,

1239
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: there are rumors that the ownership group for the Oklahoma

1240
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: City Thunder are looking to sell the franchise pretty soon

1241
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: because they just can't keep up with the escalating salaries.

1242
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Shaygildis Alexander makes the seventy million dollars a year individually

1243
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: as a player. Like thirty years ago, the salary cap

1244
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: was seventy million dollars. It's just a different world that

1245
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: we live in. The world is going to evolve. Money's

1246
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: going to get bigger and bigger, and unfortunately, certain people

1247
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: are going to feel the squeeze when it comes to that.

1248
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: It's just going to evolve. To your point, I think

1249
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: what's probably going to end up happening is you have

1250
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: some sort of super league with the Big ten and

1251
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: the SEC and maybe the Big twelve and ACC get

1252
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: roped in there, and you're probably going to have the

1253
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: rest of the FBS just gets kind of sucked under

1254
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 3: into a lesser division and maybe they have their own

1255
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: version of a national Championship that's still FBS, that's still

1256
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Division one. Is just not the cream of the crop.

1257
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that, And there's

1258
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: going to be money and there's going to be interest

1259
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: for that sort of situation too, So there's a way

1260
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 3: for everybody to win. Some are going to win bigger

1261
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: than others. But it's not as if these lower programs

1262
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: are going to necessarily necessarily die. They don't have to.

1263
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: They just have to reimagine what college football and college

1264
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: sports looks like in their purview.

1265
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Right, And that's the this, Like, I just don't understand

1266
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: why it's the job of everybody around college football to

1267
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: save college football for every program when the fact is

1268
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: the times change, right, Like, nobody sits here today and says,

1269
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, how are we gonna save every single

1270
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 2: restaurant and look, it's harder than ever with food costs

1271
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: being what they are, and you know, with the economy

1272
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: being what it is, it's harder than ever to have

1273
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: a food truck. For example, I know a couple of

1274
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: buddies that own food trucks and they talk all the

1275
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: time about just simply the cost of ingredients. All of

1276
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: a sudden, the food truck, you know, five years ago,

1277
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: where you could sell a ten dollars sandwich, now has

1278
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: to sell in some parts of the country, like Connecticut,

1279
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: a twenty five dollars sandwich. And people don't want to

1280
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: spend twenty five bucks on a sandwich. So, like, how

1281
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: do you continue to manage that food truck? It sucks,

1282
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: it does, and it's heartbreaking. But it's not the job

1283
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: of everybody to sit down and say, well, now we're

1284
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 2: losing food trucks. I mean that's these are livelihoods. Yes,

1285
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: these are absolutely ways that people support their bills. Yes,

1286
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: like you and I work in a medium radio that

1287
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: is not doing particularly what it did ten years ago.

1288
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: I think most people know that at this point, right,

1289
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: Like we live on a podcast society, who is clamoring

1290
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: to sit around and say, well, you know what, man

1291
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: radio hosts aren't making what they used to make, and boy,

1292
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be left by the wayside. Gotta figure

1293
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: out how to save them. Like that's just not the

1294
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: way society works at any other business, But we want

1295
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: that in college sports because we're sitting here under the

1296
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: guise of a competition, which college football never really had

1297
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: true competition up and down, or under the guys of

1298
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: saving the sport, like just to it is what it is.

1299
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, people just don't want these kids to

1300
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: get paid, but it's literally been determined that it's unconstitutional

1301
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: to block them from it. So like, guess what the

1302
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: courts have spoken and what you're asking for is unconstitutional.

1303
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: So now you got to figure out how you're going

1304
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: to live in this world or you're just going to

1305
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: be left behind.

1306
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: By the way. I haven't maybe maybe you have. I

1307
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 3: haven't seen anybody in recent years argue against the fact

1308
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: that kids should be compensated who still fall on the

1309
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: side of they're getting a scholarship and a good education

1310
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: and room and board, as if that's enough when these

1311
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: these you know, conferences are making billions of dollars and

1312
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: you're telling me that these guys being able to get free,

1313
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: you know, of lunch and dinner at the student union

1314
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: is certainly worth worth that. I think the narrative nationally

1315
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: has sort of changed on that front. I don't know

1316
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: if I hear a lot of people still saying that

1317
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: it's unfair that kids are able to get compensated for

1318
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: na image of likeness and for competing at a high

1319
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: level in college football.

1320
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: The South man really okay, the South is like SEC

1321
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: Country is still in the middle of like these entitled kids,

1322
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't want my game to change,

1323
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: like it's all like there's still I still hear plenty

1324
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: of it down in SEC Country, And in fairness, I

1325
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: don't know if it exists. I don't I have I

1326
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: don't spend as much time interacting with audiences in Ohio

1327
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: and Michigan in places like that where college football is

1328
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: equally important. But certainly, you know, and now you've got

1329
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: the president signing an executive order, and let's acknowledge that

1330
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: an executive order, it's just a president's way of saying,

1331
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: you know, I really think we should take a look

1332
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: at this. There's my pinnacle, right, but the executive order

1333
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: that you know, they need to take a look at

1334
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: nil basically, And okay, I mean, if you think the

1335
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: government's going to step in and save college football, I

1336
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: just again you're asking a I don't know how many

1337
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: things ever run in general better when the government gets

1338
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: involved to fix it. And that's just a general take

1339
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: no matter who's in office, by the way, don't at me.

1340
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: And then there's the b of it, Like, so we

1341
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: think that you can get Congress in the House that

1342
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: everybody involved to actually agree on what the future of

1343
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: college football looks like. Like Let's remember many of these

1344
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: senators represent constituents that also have varying ideas of what

1345
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff committee should look like and how

1346
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: this entire process should look like. So I cannot imagine

1347
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: being a representative in the state of Alabama and taking

1348
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: the risk on election, getting elected by being part of

1349
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: a playoff proposal that you know your constituents may not like.

1350
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: And also the same thing can be said for somebody

1351
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: representing his audience in Michigan that wants a very different thing.

1352
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: So I think it's oversimplification. I think the government's just

1353
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: going to step in and come up with the new standard.

1354
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one thing that they can do if

1355
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: it makes it through. Is determining whether or not athletes

1356
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: can actually start a union and unionize as employees, which

1357
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: I think is the big deal with the executive order

1358
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: is to ensure, along with the nc double A, that

1359
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: they can put regulations in place to make sure that,

1360
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: under no circumstances can college kids find a way to

1361
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: start a labor union and negotiate CBA talks with schools,

1362
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: because then that opens up a whole nother, you know,

1363
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: set of Pandora's box. As far as you know, now,

1364
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: schools have to pay for benefits and designate them as employees,

1365
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: and that's something that I think then I know for

1366
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: a fact the NCAA doesn't want to do I think

1367
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: a lot of schools, obviously most of the schools don't

1368
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: want to do that. And so that's why there's been

1369
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: a lot of meetings between Trump and the new president

1370
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: of the into Cuba about these sort of matters, and

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 3: that they think that that's the reason why Congress needs

1372
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: to get involved. I don't know if they necessarily do.

1373
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: I don't think I would have no issue whatsoever with

1374
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: these guys being employees. They probably should, but that's what

1375
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: they're trying to protect against. They're trying to protect the

1376
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: schools from having to designate these players as employees. So

1377
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: if they can get that to be an Act of

1378
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: Congress and write it and actually get it in writing

1379
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: legally nationwide, that's something that they don't have to fight against,

1380
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: which is I honestly think that they should be considered employees.

1381
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: How is a quarterback for a football team any different

1382
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: than someone who works at the student union's getting a

1383
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: check from the school, especially now that schools can actually

1384
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: directly compensate you. I'm paying ex quarterback five, you know,

1385
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: five million dollars. Granted he's making a lot more than

1386
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: this kid at the student union, But how is it?

1387
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: How is that kid an employee but my quarterback not?

1388
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense to me.

1389
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, for everybody that's sitting here

1390
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: wringing their hands and just screaming, oh my god, we

1391
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: can't let them unionize, we can't let this become that. Like,

1392
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: if you want the simplest solution, it doesn't sound simple

1393
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: right now when I say this, But if you want conformity,

1394
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: and you want everybody to have one standard that they're

1395
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: going to live through and you want everybody to have

1396
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: one fair level playing ground. The only way to really

1397
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: accomplish that is to have all of the schools banded

1398
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: together and become essentially owners, which eventually will also allow

1399
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: private equity groups to come in and start buying these

1400
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: college football programs. I think it's inevitable, absolutely, And then

1401
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: allow the players to unionize and form their own collective

1402
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: bargaining agreement, and guess what, then you will have a

1403
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: union deal just like you have in every other major sport.

1404
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: If we're going to sit here every week and say

1405
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: college football is the second biggest sport in America, let's

1406
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: acknowledge that at this point it needs to be treated

1407
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 2: like a business. And if you're gonna do that, then

1408
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: the really if you're somebody that's screaming what I want

1409
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: is a level playing field, the only honest, open, easy

1410
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: way to get a level playing field is exactly what

1411
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about. But that's the stay audience. It then

1412
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 2: it turns around is like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1413
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: Like no, we don't want that. I don't want I

1414
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: don't want players as employees. We don't want to unionized.

1415
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: We don't want these kids getting in a union and

1416
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: stopping football like all that. Okay, so what do you want, Like,

1417
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: you want conformity without any legal process in the like,

1418
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: let's stop playing like we're in make Believe Land.

1419
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what we have now. The problem is the

1420
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: issue we have now is we're in the wild West

1421
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: and people are complaining about I can't keep up with

1422
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: college basketball or even football to a degree because these

1423
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: kids are transferring in and out every single year. It's like, well, yeah,

1424
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: there's no regulations in place, and you can be pro

1425
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: or anti regulation in general, that's a different subject. But

1426
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: when it comes to this, when you're talking about player

1427
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: movement and the amount of money that's involved and whether

1428
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: or not people are being compensated, all that stuff, you

1429
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: know it matters and that's going to affect you know,

1430
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: your favorite football team positively or negatively. So to your point,

1431
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 3: it's not simple when it comes to unionizing, especially when

1432
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: you're talking about literally thousands of athletes.

1433
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: Is what this is going to end up being.

1434
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: Uh, But that's the It's it's kind of implicated, but

1435
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: it's also simple, and I think it's the most practical

1436
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: way for them to do it, and for them to say, like,

1437
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: we can't afford to do that. We can't afford to

1438
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: make these guys employees. To your point, private equity money

1439
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: is floating out there left and right, and the last

1440
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: thing that we know is a major profit profit getter

1441
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: in professional sports is live sports, and college football is

1442
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 3: right behind the NFL as far as popularity goes. So

1443
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: you're telling me that there won't be private equity groups

1444
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: that are willing to sign on as a sponsor even

1445
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: if you are a mid level if you're Purdue or something.

1446
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: This is no disrespect to our friends at Purdue in Indiana,

1447
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: but every other Big ten school is getting gobbled up

1448
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: by somebody. Well, you're still a Big ten school. You're

1449
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: telling me there's not going to be somebody who's willing

1450
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at your program

1451
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: to say that this is Purdue boiler Maker football brought

1452
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: to you by whatever. Every single time their name is

1453
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: brought up, it's untapped potential. But they have to get

1454
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: their heads out of their assets for lack of a

1455
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 3: better term, when it comes to this, and just realize

1456
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 3: what the big business is of college sports and not

1457
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: try to hide behind this veil of amateurism while there's

1458
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: billions of dollars being made on the other side.

1459
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways. I also think what's

1460
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: interesting in the entire save college football debate, right, I'm

1461
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: going to stereotype for a second, many of the people

1462
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: that are screaming about saving college football and saving all

1463
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: of these programs, and well, this program can afford can't

1464
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: afford this in this program, you know, we can't. We

1465
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: can't have it be this, We can't have it be that.

1466
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: Like many of the people that are screaming that that

1467
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, we need help mantra are the same people

1468
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: that when the w NBA players are talking about wanting

1469
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: to get their fair share and percentages from their collective

1470
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: bargaining agreement, will turn around and say, your league's not

1471
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: making enough money, and if you're not making enough money,

1472
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: stop asking for more, Like you don't deserve this. We

1473
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. Like at some point it

1474
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: is up to the produce. And I've used Purdue a

1475
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: few times as an example, and like you know, I

1476
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: get a handful of tweets every time because the couple

1477
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: of Purdue fans that are out that are super passionate

1478
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: about it will will clap back at me.

1479
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we all feel as bad now is using produe

1480
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: as an example, Yes, I'm jumping on the train apparently.

1481
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: But there's a real there's a like I think Purdue

1482
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: is a really strong example of Look, most years, ninety

1483
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 2: nine out of one hundred years, Purdue is not going

1484
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: to sit out here and contend with you know, Michigan, Ohio, State, Alabama, Georgia. Like,

1485
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: we're not talking about a national championship contender, So what

1486
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Once in a blue moon, you

1487
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: have this moment in time where you're like, oh, yeah,

1488
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: things are great. Okay, Well, if Purdue wants to figure

1489
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: out creative ways to raise the money to be competitive

1490
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: at that level, they could do it. I mean, certainly

1491
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: Indiana football has found a way to be competitive in

1492
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: a new market. Right. That's a living, eating, breathing example

1493
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: of it. You know, it's it's that there are there

1494
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: are ways that you can certainly climb through the resources

1495
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: you need. And yeah, of course, if it's like it's

1496
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: it's Indiana football, and it doesn't matter if it's you know,

1497
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: if it's into it Texas football presented by Indiana, I

1498
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: don't care how what order they put it in. If

1499
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: it allows you to be six and you can watch

1500
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: your favorite team go out there and win, then great.

1501
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: But like the concept of you know what the real

1502
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: solution is, we're not gonna get players anymore. We're gonna

1503
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: make sure they don't they don't make anything like again,

1504
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: because that's been challenged so many times and defeated so

1505
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: many times constitutionally, we're at a spot now where like,

1506
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: if that is the hill you're dying on, if you're

1507
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: walking and planting a flag on any hill that limits

1508
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: the availability of cash to players, every time you've been

1509
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: challenged on it, you've lost. So now what are we

1510
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: talking about? So now you really just got to step

1511
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: back and be like, Okay, if this is the new

1512
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: world for West Virginia football, then we need to figure

1513
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: out how to be competitive in West Virginia football. And

1514
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: I think it's there and it's attainable for fifty sixty

1515
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: programs maybe, and for the other fifty or sixty then

1516
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, you figure out something else, and then for

1517
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: the fifties to sixty we end up with awesome, How

1518
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: badass would it be? Like Anthony has said before, what

1519
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: if we end up with essentially like the NFL and

1520
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: AFC and NF. We end up with you know, whatever

1521
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: you call the Big Ten, whatever you call the SEC,

1522
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: they both super conference. You end up with twenty teams

1523
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: in each conference, and you have forty, you know, forty

1524
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: teams out here in different divisions trying to make a

1525
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: college football playoff.

1526
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm in.

1527
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm in. I just want to see great college football

1528
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: programs battle it out. I don't really care what the

1529
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: process looks like to get me there, and I'm actually in.

1530
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: And I don't think schools would do this because I

1531
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: guess they wild affect your prestige and recruiting to a

1532
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: certain degree. I like the promotion relegation idea that Anthony's

1533
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: thrown out there too. The fact that if you do

1534
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: split off an at the SEC and the Big Ten

1535
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: become an AFC NFC model, you know, you can still

1536
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: have the Big Twelve or the ACC or the MAC

1537
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: and the WHACK and the you know whoever else, and

1538
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 3: you can have basically playing games at the end of

1539
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: the regular season for the worst teams in the Big

1540
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: Ten and SEC and the best teams and those other

1541
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: conferences to see who can play their way in and

1542
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: play their way out. I mean those are essentially playoff games.

1543
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 3: Those will be huge games. They'll be get massive TV numbers.

1544
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: It'd be huge for the teams that are going going up,

1545
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: and obviously huge for the teams who'll be going down.

1546
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: I just don't know if willing teams will be willing

1547
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: to do that to lose their prestige and say that,

1548
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: oh we're not we got relegated to you know, the

1549
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 3: MAC after falling out of the SEC or whatever they're

1550
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 3: going to end up being called. But I do think

1551
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: that's probably one of the best ideas I've heard to

1552
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 3: try to figure out a way to bridge the gap

1553
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: between keeping the other schools relevant while also making sure

1554
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: you separate the great schools and keeping them together as

1555
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: one super league.

1556
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that would give the opportunity for you know,

1557
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnatis in the world to figure out,

1558
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: like what do they want to be, how do they

1559
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: want to compete? And if you want to make a run,

1560
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: you can make a run. I think there's some value

1561
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: to it. I cannot imagine the reaction of you know,

1562
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Florida if they have a bad year and all of

1563
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: a sudden they get relegated.

1564
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 3: Correct.

1565
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: I love the drama of it. I cannot imagine just

1566
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: watching it and look, this is what certainly soccer fans

1567
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: feel this to their core. I cannot imagine the way

1568
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: it would shock a fan base like Tennessee went through

1569
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: a spot where the balls just weren't very good for

1570
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 2: several years. Thinking that that would suddenly put them in

1571
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: a lower level of football is wild. But then also

1572
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: thinking about the relegation element and what it would mean

1573
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: for that team to try and come in and win

1574
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: their league the next year. Suddenly that Tennessee Vandy game

1575
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: takes down a lot more heat if you know the

1576
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: winner is going back up to the BIGS. That's a

1577
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: wild world to even think of living in. It really is.

1578
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: But I think it'd be fun. I think it'd be different.

1579
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: I think it's it's in line with the changing of

1580
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: the times, even though you're I guess you're going back

1581
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 3: to something that soccer has done for literally hundreds of years.

1582
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: But it's a way to keep competitive juices flowing for

1583
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 3: every single FBS school to say that, hey, we have

1584
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: a chance to get ourselves to play our way into

1585
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 3: the big dance. If we're not already up there. You know,

1586
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 3: if we're good at get ourselves good enough on the

1587
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: lower level, we can find our way to fight our

1588
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: way in to getting ourselves in the conversation to the

1589
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: big dance. I think that's probably the best way to

1590
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: be able to serve everybody, serve all the big teams

1591
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: and also serving the little guy and giving them much,

1592
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: giving them a shot to actually compete on a year in,

1593
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: year out basis. So will it ever happen, I highly

1594
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 3: doubt it, but I do think that's one of the

1595
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: best ideas of a model that I've ever heard.

1596
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: So now we sit in world where there are twelve

1597
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: playoff teams about to go. I think we all presume

1598
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: it's going to go to sixteen, right like, so.

1599
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 3: I know Greg, thank you through fourteen out there two

1600
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 3: as a possibility. So that's what is There's which is

1601
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: just wild to me. But I think we're headed towards

1602
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 3: you know.

1603
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: The sweet sixteen essentially most likely, and I think that

1604
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: all makes sense. The hardest part is how do you

1605
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: get the big ten in the SEC to agree on

1606
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: what that sixteen team playoff format looks like? Because again

1607
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: I cannot stress this enough. This is Thanksgiving and we

1608
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: all hate to be it at the kid table at Thanksgiving.

1609
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: Let's be very clear, the Big Twelve, the ACC, the

1610
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: Group of five, and everybody else like, congratulations, you're at

1611
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: the kid table and you'll get to come in and

1612
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 2: party with the grown ups when the grown ups decide

1613
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: it's time. So the grownups have to decide what sixteen

1614
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: teams are because the rest of the college football community

1615
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: is powerless. Yeah.

1616
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and but again that's the world that we live in.

1617
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: So and I look, I understand the grip on both sides,

1618
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 3: and maybe we can get to get into this on

1619
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: the other side, why the Big ten wants the model

1620
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: that they want, why the SEC wants the model that

1621
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: they want, And I certainly understand the other little guys

1622
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 3: saying like, hey, just make sure that we get ourselves

1623
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: a seat at the table too. So everybody has a

1624
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: legitimate gripe. But I think that's something we should get

1625
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: into in the next segment and talk about exactly what

1626
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: the impasse is between the Big twelve or excuse me,

1627
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: the Big ten and the SEC and what the format

1628
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 3: might look like.

1629
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: We'll do that next. These Kevin figures on Jason Fitz

1630
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: we're figuring out figure figures out exactly what they want

1631
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 2: and more importantly, what we think is real, actually honestly

1632
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: going to happen. We'll figure that out. What's college football

1633
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: going to look like? We'll do that Next to Fellas

1634
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio's Fellas on Fox Sports Radio, Kevin

1635
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: Figures Chasing Fitz hanging out with you all morning long

1636
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,360
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1640
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1641
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,680
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1642
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. We're figuring

1643
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: out how what's actually real? This this is the hardest part,

1644
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: Figui of the college football conversation right now is I

1645
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, there's this burden in life when

1646
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: you are a man at a grill, more woman at

1647
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: a grill, I don't know you are when you make

1648
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: a steak in the world. I've decided that no matter

1649
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: what the steak is, you you could make what you

1650
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: think is the best steak has ever been grilled in

1651
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 2: the history of mankind. Take a picture of that steak

1652
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: and send it to your friends, and inevitably, if you

1653
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: send it to twenty friends, you will then get twenty

1654
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: opinions on what you could have done differently with your steak,

1655
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: and none of it matters because you're just trying to

1656
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: enjoy your damn piece of meat, no doubt. Like that

1657
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: is like every single I cannot tell you how many

1658
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: people I know that are at best mediocre cooks that

1659
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 2: will go into a fancy steakhouse and they're like, I

1660
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: don't know, could have been better seared on the outside,

1661
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Like you know what the hell you're talking about? What

1662
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: you're doing? That's what college football is right now. Like

1663
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: I could walk in with the perfect stick, the perfect solution,

1664
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: and twenty people around me are going to be like, actually,

1665
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: and that's a little under Oh no, it's a little over. No,

1666
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: we got to make sure that that piece is thicker.

1667
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: Now that piece are like, you picked the wrong stack

1668
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: of me. You know what, your grill was too hot

1669
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: in the beginning, that's problem. Did you have pans?

1670
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 5: Hear that?

1671
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 2: They're like what like the number of questions around college.

1672
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: It's obnoxious. So I will acquiesce here that what we're

1673
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: trying to do is figure out what could happen that

1674
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: actually could happen, not sitting down and saying, okay, can

1675
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: we live in this world where Vultron and Transformers come together.

1676
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to speak in real terms. Okay. So inevitably

1677
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: I think we are headed towards a sixteen team playoff.

1678
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 2: We agree on that. The question is what does that

1679
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: look like? Because the Big Ten and the SEC have

1680
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: different concepts of what they want.

1681
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the SCC, because first of all, the contention

1682
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 3: from the Big Ten towards the SEC, as you guys

1683
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 3: don't play nine conference games all the other major conferences do.

1684
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: The SEC says we can't play nine conference games because

1685
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: that means we're gonna have extra losses on our record

1686
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 3: and that's gonna hurt us when it comes to rankings.

1687
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: So the Big Ten is in favor of this. You

1688
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: know a model where there's automatic qualifiers for themselves. So

1689
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: there's four automatic bids for themselves, four automatic bids for

1690
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: the SEC, two bids for the ACC and the Big

1691
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: twelve each, and then you have three open positions that

1692
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 3: were at larges, the SEC wants a five plus eleven

1693
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: five conference champions, the four power champions, four power conferences

1694
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: plus you know one you know group of five and

1695
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 3: then eleven open bids for whoever else because they feel

1696
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: like you know, as the SEC, we have a tougher schedule,

1697
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: we have better teams. We have a chance of getting

1698
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 3: more teams in the field if we do that. I

1699
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 3: understand the sentiment from both sides, I think, and I

1700
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 3: want to get your opinion on this fits for me.

1701
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: I like the big ten model. Better to be honest

1702
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: with you, because of the pieces both major conferences with

1703
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: guaranteed bids, you still give the other power four conferences

1704
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 3: an opportunity to get in along with a group of

1705
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: five team.

1706
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: And then the other at largest.

1707
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: If the SEC is good enough and you feel you're

1708
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: based on your marriage, should get more teams in with

1709
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 3: those final three automatic qualifiers, you have a chance to

1710
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: do that. So that one makes the most sense to me.

1711
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: What do you think I mean in a perfect agreement.

1712
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: I think what we would see is, frankly is conference

1713
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: champions go in, group of five goes in, and all

1714
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 2: remaining bids are simply put out to at larges and

1715
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: may the best eleven at that point get in. And

1716
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: if that's eleven SEC teams one year, if that's eleven

1717
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: Big ten teams one year, I think part of me

1718
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: thinks that that's the most realistic solution as well, because frankly,

1719
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't give any bias. Like what I don't want

1720
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: to end up with is an automatic big goes to

1721
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: A you know, not to pick on the Big ten,

1722
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: so we'll pick on the SEC. What I don't want

1723
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: to do is let's say it's the fourth best team

1724
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: in the SEC one year, is you know, Tennessee, but

1725
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 2: they're not all that great, And all of a sudden

1726
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: we're like, well, no, this this this Tennessee team is

1727
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: they're going in because they're number four. Like that's one

1728
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: of the things about bowl games. It always makes me

1729
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 2: laugh when we're sitting there looking at it. Man, you know,

1730
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 2: the Music City Bowl gets this SEC team versus this

1731
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: Big ten team, and man, they both kind of stink.

1732
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't really want a I don't want the fourth

1733
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: best team to be automatic into anything because I'm fearful

1734
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: that there'll be a year where that team isn't very

1735
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: good yet.

1736
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: What if you run into the NFL dilemma where every

1737
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 3: now and then you'll have a team that has and

1738
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: this probably happens almost routinely every year, a division winner,

1739
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 3: you know, hosts the game, but they have a nine

1740
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: and nine and you know, a nine win there, nine

1741
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: win team facing an eleven win team that was a wildcard,

1742
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: and that isn't necessarily fair. And even there have been

1743
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: times where you've had teams who've had winning records and

1744
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: depending on how the playoffs shakeout, they don't make it

1745
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: at all because of the automatic qualifier. But one thing

1746
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 3: that Eli drink Win's brought up, and I thought it

1747
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: was an interesting point. At the SEC, you want to

1748
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 3: take as much out of the committee's hands as possible

1749
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 3: because there's subjectivity that comes into ranking teams. And so

1750
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 3: if you tay if you have automatic qualify, he didn't

1751
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: say this, but I'm adding this part. And if you

1752
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: do at the automatic qualifier in there, it takes a

1753
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 3: lot of the bias out of the selection. The selection

1754
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: essentially is already made for you. There's pros and cons

1755
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: on both sides, but the subjectivity of who gets in

1756
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 3: and who gets out gets squeezed a lot more when

1757
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: you take it out of the Committee's hands are determining

1758
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: who gets in and who doesn't if there's automatic qualifiers involved.

1759
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 3: So that's why I fall for more on that side.

1760
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: That is fair. But one thing I've always loved about

1761
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 2: the Committee, by the way, I don't think the Committee

1762
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: gets as wrong as most people want to yell every year.

1763
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: One thing I love about the Committee is that every

1764
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: Tuesday we have an argument during the season about, you know,

1765
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 2: whether or not the committee got it right? What's the

1766
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: committee get of value? And I've hosted a lot of

1767
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: those shows over the years and laughed about the fact that, well,

1768
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be the same ranking as it was

1769
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: last year, So how are we making the next hour interesting? Right?

1770
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 4: Like?

1771
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: We've had that, But people will yell and scream about it.

1772
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: And one thing that I personally fear is that if

1773
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: everything's auto bitted out except for a handful of that

1774
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: largest So if you end up with you know, three

1775
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 2: teams that you're really talking about, will that create a

1776
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: conversation like will anybody care? On Tuesday? Maybe maybe the

1777
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 2: fight for the fourth overall spot becomes so interesting that

1778
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: it usurps that. But man, I don't know, Like, plus,

1779
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: if it's a truly wide open world. I love the

1780
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: thought of like, man, we woke up this year and

1781
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: suddenly the Big twelve was way better than we expected,

1782
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: and now we got four Big twelve teams in the

1783
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: college football playoffs. Like I think that the truly you know,

1784
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: fares where a pig gets a ribbon. But I think

1785
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 2: the truly fair way to do it is to leave

1786
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: it open because that subjectiveness. While while I understand what

1787
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: what you know is being said when it's subjective, I

1788
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: also think that allows opportunity for oh my god, we

1789
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't think that there'd be six great teams in the

1790
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: ACC stop laughing. So you know, there we go. We're

1791
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna let them all in the college football playoffs.

1792
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right to a certain degree, I did

1793
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: for if we live in the realistic world, what are

1794
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: the chances of that really happening? Considering and especially now

1795
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: that there's the chasm in college football is growing even

1796
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 3: more so, it's not like if it's crunching in and

1797
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 3: the Big twelve and the SEC are kind of raising

1798
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: their level and catching up to the Big Ten and

1799
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: the SEC. I would maybe have an argument for that,

1800
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 3: but it's getting wider. You know, the SEC and the

1801
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: Big ten are getting better, and I don't know if

1802
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: the ACC and Big twelve are necessarily catching up and

1803
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: keeping up with that. So maybe you'll have an anomaly

1804
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: in a couple of years, maybe once every five six

1805
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 3: years when that happens. I just don't know if it

1806
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: will happen often enough for that to be for that

1807
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: model to be necessary.

1808
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're not wrong. And lost in all of

1809
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: this too, is that the ACC, the Big Twelve, like

1810
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: a lot of these schools are just gonna end up

1811
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: becoming feeders that they're just going to be developmental programs,

1812
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: just like a lot of stakes to developmental program for

1813
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: the for the NFL. I don't think we're that far

1814
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: off from half of the teams at college football simply

1815
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 2: being feeder programs for the real team that we're actually

1816
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: watching weekend and week out. It's it's gonna be interesting

1817
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: to see. Will the NFL season actually be interesting to see?

1818
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: We'll break it down next to Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

1819
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1820
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: It's a Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Jason Fits

1821
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: hanging out with longtime fellow Kevin Figures, Figuring and I

1822
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: back together feels it just feels so good. It's re united,

1823
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: and it feels like I feel like, you know, we

1824
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: started off with a little bit of a slow dance.

1825
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: Now we're at the like the drink table, just having

1826
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: a good time. You know. It's it's it's like two

1827
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 2: old friends that I haven't seen each other in too long,

1828
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 2: my friend, it's it's it's fun to get to hang out.

1829
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: And Anthony Gargano getting a Saturday off, which he wildly

1830
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: deserves absolutely, God knows. I mean I say Saturday off.

1831
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's doing three thousand things with this family,

1832
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: as he always does. But we keep the fellows going

1833
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: here strong every single Saturday. So I got to ask

1834
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: you a question, Figgi, Is this the year? Is this

1835
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: final the year where we are allowed to loudly doubt

1836
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs because I gotta be honest. You know,

1837
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the way things felt in January,

1838
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: shall we We'll go back to the end of the

1839
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: end of football season, which I always maintain is when

1840
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 2: we have the most honest perspective on what our teams

1841
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: look like. We understand at the end of January, we

1842
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: understand the end of Super Bowl. What's real and then

1843
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: our mind clouds everything. Well, what was real last year

1844
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: is that for the second consecutive year, none of it

1845
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: looked easy. It didn't look right. People thought it was

1846
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: all done. The Chiefs didn't have sort of Chiefs magic

1847
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 2: whatever people were gonna say. But we ended up with

1848
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Now, they got slaughtered

1849
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. That is, that is absolutely real.

1850
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure I'm willing to take that Super

1851
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: Bowl slaughter and suddenly turn that into a reason to

1852
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: doubt a Kansas City Chiefs team again this year. And look,

1853
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: there's always controversy around it. There's always players that are

1854
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: gonna have issues. And I'm not sure the teams any

1855
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: better than it was, and certainly they're not younger than

1856
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: they were. All these things were gonna say. But my god,

1857
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: it gets exhausting every year trying to figure out where

1858
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: the demise of the Chiefs is. Just to watch them

1859
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: continually find weird ways to win games, which is part

1860
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: of their identity, and then just get their way right

1861
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl.

1862
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you felt like if it was ever gonna happen.

1863
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 3: It was last year and we were kind of waiting

1864
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 3: for it to collapse. It is like all you guys

1865
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: are winning by the skin of your teeth every single

1866
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 3: solitary week, and it's all going to come to a

1867
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 3: head when it matters most now. It did in the

1868
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, but there was a lot of people who

1869
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: didn't think they'd even make it that far, considering how

1870
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 3: they performed during the season, especially offensively with you know,

1871
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 3: arguably the best offensive player in the league right now,

1872
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 3: and yet they still found a way. I am I

1873
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: guess we will say talk about the demise of the Chiefs.

1874
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm guessing you mean they're dominance in the AFC West

1875
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: as opposed to whether or not they'll be a playoff team,

1876
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: because I don't think there's any question that they're there

1877
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: gonna be a wildcard unless you're actually questioning whether that's

1878
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: even a possibility.

1879
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: Missed the postseason, and look the demise. If Kansas City

1880
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 2: wins eleven games, people are gonna flock to the it were.

1881
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: They're on the wrong side of all of it. Their

1882
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: window is closed, Like these are the stupid narratives that

1883
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 2: are gonna happen if they win eleven games. So the

1884
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: demise of the Chiefs is still like the worst of

1885
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City this year is still gonna be best, far

1886
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: better than the best of my beloved Raiders. Like, let's

1887
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: just be honest about where demise is.

1888
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, very true. But if you're saying that

1889
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: a team like Denver or a team that the Chargers

1890
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 3: can legitimately push them for the AFC West Crown, I

1891
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 3: can absolutely see that happening. I've been talking about the

1892
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 3: Charges for the last I think two years, saying that

1893
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: they have a legit opportunity to win it, and now

1894
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 3: year two under Harball, I actually set this on the

1895
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: record a couple of weeks ago on my local show

1896
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: that I thought the Chargers were gonna win the AFC West.

1897
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 3: So I've certainly put myself myself out there, and if

1898
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen, oh well, they win it for the

1899
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 3: fifteenth straight year, you know so. But at a certain point,

1900
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: you can only lose so much before it ends up

1901
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: affecting you. They've lost a decent amount Defensively. They did

1902
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 3: improve on the offensive line obviously, you know, lock locking

1903
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: up their censer, drafting an offensive tackle which is which

1904
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: was a big eat this offseason, you think is Xavier

1905
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: Worthy's going to be a year better for Shee. Rice

1906
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: has had some legal issues obviously, but once he does

1907
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 3: get back, that's another weapon for them, and you expect

1908
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: the running game to be a little bit better. So

1909
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: there's elements of potentially the Chiefs offense can actually be

1910
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 3: better this season than it was last season. Now that

1911
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 3: doesn't say much from a regular season standpoint, but you

1912
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: consider how good they were defensively. If they take a

1913
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: half step back on defense but take a half step

1914
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 3: forward on offense, I mean, they could be right back

1915
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 3: where they were last year this coming season. So as

1916
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: much as we and I say we probably as Raider

1917
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 3: fans and a lot of people who might have Chiefs

1918
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 3: fatigue or Taylor's witht fatigue or whatever you want to

1919
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: call it, as much as we want to wish that

1920
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 3: they go away, maybe they take a step back and

1921
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: become a wild card team, but they're certainly not falling

1922
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 3: off of the map, and I think they have just

1923
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: as much of a stake to the AFC West this

1924
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: year as they have in years past.

1925
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: I genuinely do not believe that the Kansas City Chiefs

1926
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: are going to take a step back. I genuinely believe

1927
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs are going to win the AFC West,

1928
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: and I believe that the Kansas City Chiefs are still

1929
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: at the top of the list of teams. Like you know,

1930
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: me always put everything on shelves like it's a liquor

1931
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: top shelf. In the AFC, nothing's changed on the top shelf.

1932
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: It's still going to be Baltimore, Buffalo and Kansas City. Now,

1933
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: maybe this is finally going to be some way that

1934
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: the Bills can trip them up and tick them down.

1935
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: But I just I feel like it's exhausting every year

1936
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: just sitting here trying to find reasons why the Chiefs

1937
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: aren't as good as we think they are instead of

1938
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 2: just admitting that they are. Like it, at some point

1939
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: you look at the way that they win games and

1940
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: it looks ugly, and it's like, okay, well, let's just

1941
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: accept that that's part of who this team is. But

1942
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: as you and I have talked about for years and

1943
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 2: I think needs a reminder, Patrick Mahomes record in one

1944
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: score games is absolutely insane, and the only way you

1945
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: beat Kansas City is to blow them out. That hasn't changed.

1946
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: I just don't see teams coming in and suddenly beating

1947
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 2: Kansas City by two scores. So to me, it's just

1948
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 2: the thing that we need to accept this point. We

1949
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: are Charlie Brown running up to the football and then

1950
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: being shocked when the football gets moved. I'm not gonna

1951
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: get shocked anymore. I'm not going to betting against Kansas

1952
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: City and Patrick Mahomes right now is his feudal is

1953
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 2: betting against Brady Belichick and the Patriots was for a generation.

1954
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Yep, that was the exact parallel I was gonna draw.

1955
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 3: It got to a point where you just said, you

1956
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 3: know what, I'm just gonna pick the Patriots until they

1957
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,879
Speaker 3: don't win. And even if you just take any football

1958
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: analysis out of it is like, you know, they've done

1959
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 3: this every which way. The Kansas City Chiefs have won

1960
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 3: and dominated the league while blowing people out by twenty

1961
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 3: and they've won and dominated the league by winning games

1962
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: by three points the entire way, and the constant has

1963
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 3: been Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes the entire way through.

1964
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: And for the Patriots during their dynasty, it was Bill

1965
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 3: Belichick and Tom Brady tied at the hip all the

1966
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: way through, and they found a way to dominate for

1967
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: twenty years. So I, to your point, don't really see

1968
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: an end in sight for the Kansas City And I'm

1969
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: certainly not gonna be the one to pick him and

1970
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 3: look badly, I did say the charges that win the division.

1971
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 3: That being said, I don't doubt that Kansas City has

1972
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: a wildcard team can go on the road and win

1973
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 3: three straight games, go to the Super Bowl and win

1974
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: a championship.

1975
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: Why not? Like I wouldn't, I can't doubt them.

1976
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 3: And when it comes to that, so it is a futile,

1977
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: to your point, exercise to try to determine if and

1978
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: when the Kansas City Chiefs are gonna fall off of

1979
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: a cliff.

1980
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet, so why would you think that

1981
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: it would.

1982
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: And by the way, and again, Patrick Mahomes is in

1983
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: the prime of his career at this point in time,

1984
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 3: So even in the midst of having offensive issues, with

1985
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 3: offensive line problems and injuries to receivers, he still has

1986
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 3: that magic in him to be able to make things

1987
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 3: happen when it matters most, which is to your point,

1988
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 3: if you're gonna beat Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes, you

1989
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 3: better blow them out. Because if it's a one score

1990
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 3: game and he has the ball in his hands with

1991
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: three minutes left, it's game over for you almost every

1992
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: single time.

1993
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, not for nothing, the Eagles didn't really unveil

1994
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: a new blueprint on how to beat Kansas City. Now.

1995
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 2: You need a defensive line that you can absolutely attack

1996
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: and get through their offensive line, which is always an issue.

1997
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: You need to hit Mahomes a bunch of times. I mean,

1998
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: these are all things that we knew, we saw and

1999
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 2: nobody else can do. Why do you think every AFC

2000
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: West team constantly is looking at ways to build their

2001
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: defense up, because like you're just hoping and praying that

2002
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: you can shut them down. Like the Broncos this year

2003
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: are gonna let's see what Botnox looks like two in

2004
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: year two. I was wrong about year one first to

2005
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: admit that. But the Broncos they're not gonna liver or

2006
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: die by boat Nicks. They're gonna liver or die by

2007
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: the fact that their defense last year was absolutely incredible, right, Like,

2008
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: the Broncos were so far ahead of schedule to most

2009
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: people's expectations, in part because their defense was just elite

2010
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: in ways that nobody saw coming that's what everybody's trying

2011
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: to do. Like, but the method on beating Mahomes, well,

2012
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: you just gotta have a you know, you gotta have

2013
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: a defense. It's on par with the Eagles. Okay, yeah,

2014
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 2: that's easy to do. Cool, Like, good luck with that.

2015
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: And then even if you have the offense it's on

2016
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: par with the Eagles, you also need to get a

2017
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: defense that's on par with the Eagles. You need to

2018
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 2: have an offense. It's on par with Saquan and aj

2019
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: and like all of the weapons that they had in

2020
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Like this is it's not as simple

2021
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: as oh man, the book is open. Now, we standing

2022
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: out to beat Kansas City. Like I just think sometimes

2023
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: we get so bored that we want to make boring

2024
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: things interesting, and instead I want to appreciate that it's boring.

2025
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that the Chiefs are so stinking

2026
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: good right now that just year in and year out.

2027
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Like to me, it will be interesting if the Chiefs

2028
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: take a step back, because I just don't expect it anymore.

2029
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: If they don't take a step back, I'm just gonna

2030
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: step back, and I'm gonna appreciate the greatness of what

2031
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm seeing like this is this is legendary stuff that

2032
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: we're seeing from this triumvirent of greatness with Kansas City,

2033
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,919
Speaker 2: with their offensive mindset, with the coach, with with Patrick Mahomes,

2034
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: with Spags the defensive coordinator. We talk about it all

2035
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 2: the time, like, I just think there's brilliance happening out

2036
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: of Kansas City, and knowing full well that they're a

2037
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: team I hate rooting for. I'm never going to root

2038
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs. I gotta respect it because every year

2039
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: it's good.

2040
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's a healthy perspective to have because and

2041
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about this and if you're if

2042
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 3: you live in a local market that has that bur

2043
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 3: baseball is a big deal. There's a certain you know,

2044
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: fan bases might live and die with every single game.

2045
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 3: And there's an appreciation that I have for that because

2046
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: in today's society and sports in general, we always want

2047
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 3: to rush to the end and who gets in the

2048
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 3: championship and who's in the playoff, and there's an element

2049
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 3: of like not being able to stop and smell the

2050
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 3: roses and appreciate what you're witnessing. That's what's right in

2051
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: front of you present day. You know, the Kansas City chief,

2052
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 3: the dynasty coming off of the newly and Patriots rolling

2053
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 3: into Kansas City. Just realize, these things just don't happen.

2054
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: And really, in any sport, maybe in international soccer, you know,

2055
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 3: in the Premier League or something, teams that Man City

2056
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 3: will have a run or something like that. But generally speaking,

2057
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 3: because the sport is built on parody and built for

2058
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 3: everybody to basically finish, you know, five hundred or a

2059
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 3: game over, and the cream of the rises to the

2060
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 3: top with the best, the best run organizations, it is

2061
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 3: exceedingly rare to have a team have this run of dominance.

2062
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 3: And it's really incredible to see one of the best

2063
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 3: players in the history of the sport. And that's not

2064
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: hyperbole to say that about Patrick Mahomes right now, you know,

2065
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 3: with one of the great coaches in the history of

2066
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 3: the sport, Andy Reid, following the footsteps of what Belichick

2067
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: and Tom Brady did for its twenty year run, I

2068
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 3: think it's really difficult for people to stop and appreciate

2069
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 3: what they're seeing when it's greatness in front of him,

2070
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 3: as opposed to saying I'm tired of seeing the same

2071
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 3: team in the Super Bowl every single year. There's an

2072
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 3: element of that too, but there's also an element of

2073
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 3: appreciating greatness when you see it in front of you.

2074
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: And I think in today's society, we're so quick to

2075
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: get to the end and talk about the next hot

2076
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 3: thing that we don't appreciate greatness when we're witnessing it.

2077
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are giving us greatness, but there's a lot

2078
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: of the league that might be giving us the exact opposite.

2079
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 2: My biggest concern for this NFL season, I'll tell you

2080
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 2: what it is next. It's the Fellas of Fox Sports Radio.

2081
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2082
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2083
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2084
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 4: listen live.

2085
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 2: So Fellas on Fox Sports Radio Kevin figures Jason Fitz

2086
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 2: hanging out with you. You can stream the show and

2087
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 2: all our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to

2088
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: seven and the new and improved Heart Radio app. Just

2089
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream us live.

2090
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: And one of the newest features in the app that

2091
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 2: you will absolutely love is you can select Fox Sports

2092
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Radio is one of your presets, just like the presets

2093
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: on a radio dial, so be sure to preset Fox

2094
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. It'll always pop up

2095
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 2: at the top of your screen. Don't want to miss that.

2096
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 2: I've got a concern, Figuri, and we are at that

2097
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: spot right now where I'll take any football. I'll take

2098
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: bad football. I'll take flag football. I was watching flag

2099
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 2: football on the NFL network the other day.

2100
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 3: Ill kids, the kids out there playing flag football.

2101
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starved for it. Right like, I'll take any

2102
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: football you want to give me. And right now I

2103
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: just want to bottle this up like it and remember

2104
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 2: it because certainly in the third or fourth week of

2105
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: the college football season, when we have cupcakes, we're going

2106
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: to be complaining about it. And in I don't know,

2107
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: mid November, when we're stuck with a random Titans Jags

2108
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: game that sucks, we're going to complain about it. And

2109
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm not because right now I miss it so much.

2110
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: It's just a reminder that I'll take bad football over

2111
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 2: no football at all. I just am left to wonder

2112
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: if we're gonna have a lot of bad football again

2113
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 2: this year, because when you look back at last year,

2114
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: and we forget that last year, I think it was

2115
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 2: a dozen teams had double digit losses off the top

2116
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: of my ten or twelve teams had double digit losses

2117
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,839
Speaker 2: last year. Double digit losses, like there was a battle

2118
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: for the first overall pick from a bunch of teams

2119
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: that won three or four games. Like you're just talking

2120
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: about a level of wretched football. And I'm thinking about

2121
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 2: this because you certainly Mike Jones at the Athletic did

2122
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: his foremost over and underrated teams coming into the season,

2123
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 2: And as I was looking at the article and thinking

2124
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 2: about who were obsessed with, I just sat here and thought, Man,

2125
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: can we really be sure? Can we really be sure

2126
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: right now that a bunch of these teams that were

2127
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: terrible last year aren't going to be terrible again? And

2128
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 2: are we ready for a reality where it's not tanking.

2129
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 2: It's not like, hey, these teams are trying to lose.

2130
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Teams weren't tanking last year. There was just a lot

2131
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: of bad football teams last year. And I'm not sure

2132
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm ready to accept this new reality that the NFL

2133
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: could be a wild group of have and have nots

2134
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this season.

2135
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 3: Thirteen teams last year had double digit losses. Thirteen out

2136
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: of a thirty team league. That's pretty damn bad. That

2137
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 3: is as bad as it possibly gets. And to your point, yeah,

2138
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 3: it's not like there's a bunch of teams that are

2139
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 3: out there taking now. There are teams that had expectations

2140
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: last year that just underperformed for whatever reason. I look

2141
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 3: at a team like Chicago, which should be better this

2142
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: year with a new head coach, new offense, all that,

2143
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 3: so I'm more optimistic about this season. But that's mainly

2144
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 3: I don't really have anything to tie to it other

2145
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: than it can't be as bad as it was it

2146
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: was last year. Right, That's what I'm hanging it on.

2147
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 3: You can't have this many bad teams in the professional

2148
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: at the professional ranks, it's unbelievable. I mean, I'll look

2149
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 3: at the Giants at three wins, the Bears had five,

2150
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 3: Carolina and New Orleans and the same division, both at five.

2151
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 3: The forty nine ers lost eleven. It's really incredible. Raiders

2152
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: were four and thirteen. There's the amount of bad football.

2153
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 3: Injuries has a lot to do with it too. I

2154
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 3: think we had one of those years where there are

2155
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, major injuries to really big

2156
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 3: contributing players. But that happens on a year in, year

2157
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 3: out basis two and usually find a way to combat it.

2158
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe that this year we're gonna

2159
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 3: have forty percent of the league end up with double

2160
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: digit losses again, if for no other reason, I think

2161
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 3: it was just an anomaly that happened this past year,

2162
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 3: because that's unwell.

2163
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: I want to agree with you, I truly I hope

2164
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: you're right, because my god, I need you to be right,

2165
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 2: like it was painful last year. But you know me,

2166
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: I like to apply universal benefit of the doubts or

2167
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: universal doubts. So it's pretty easy for me if I'm

2168
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 2: just taking all fandom of anything aside. And this is

2169
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: what we all do this as Raiders fans. We do

2170
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: this all right. You got Geno, right, you got Ashton Genty,

2171
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly calling the offense, Pete Carroll just being in

2172
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: the room. He's going to make things better. So all

2173
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden we buy all those positives. And then

2174
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: as fans we turn around and say, and by the way,

2175
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs offensive line not going to be any better.

2176
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: Bo Nix was a one year wonder. Justin Herbert still

2177
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: doesn't have any weapons and the Chiefs can't, the Chargers

2178
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 2: can't stay healthy. Like it is so easy for us

2179
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: to prop our favorite team up and then presume that

2180
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: everything's going to go right with those offseason acquisitions, while

2181
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: then presuming everything's going to go wrong with our rivals

2182
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 2: offseason acquisitions. That's what we do. I try not to

2183
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 2: do that, which is why I don't freak out as

2184
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 2: much when by the end of the year certain teams

2185
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 2: are really bad, because I just kind of presume that

2186
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: mid level with everything. If you do that, I mean,

2187
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 2: just going through some of the teams last year that

2188
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 2: were bad, it's easy to see why the Giants are

2189
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: going to be bad again. It's easy to see, like

2190
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 2: the Vegas loves the Patriots based on what like I don't,

2191
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: we have no idea. I would not be surprised at

2192
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: all if the Patriots again win five games. I just wouldn't.

2193
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 2: As much as I love Rabel, they could be a

2194
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: five win team. Are the Titans really that much better

2195
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: with cam Wardan nothing else around him right now to

2196
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 2: make me think that they're not still a five or

2197
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 2: six win team? Like I can find the Yeah, but

2198
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: that keeps a lot of these double digit lost teams

2199
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 2: in double digit Like, what if Pete Carroll is just

2200
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 2: old Jim Kelly doesn't really have an NFL offense in

2201
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 2: Gino's not all that great. That gets the Raiders right

2202
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: back to five wins, Like it's pretty easy to five

2203
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 2: win all of the five win teams. Yeah.

2204
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 3: One thing the NFL does a great job is is

2205
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 3: it sales hope to everyone. Because we've seen worse to

2206
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 3: first happen multiple times over. We saw I go if

2207
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 3: you go all the way back twenty plus years, I

2208
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 3: remember the Greatest show on turf rams. They won what

2209
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: four or five games the year before. Nobody had them

2210
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 3: on their radar of being a team that can make

2211
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 3: a deep run into the postseason. Everybody feels that they

2212
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: can go worse to first, that they can have that

2213
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 3: magical season. So and if you make any move of

2214
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 3: any significance that raises your ceiling in a lot of

2215
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 3: people's minds. So you mentioned the Patriots with Mike Rabel,

2216
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 3: you know, by all accounts, a really good head coach,

2217
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 3: and you know you have Drake May in year two

2218
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 3: when you bring in Stepan Diggs, how impactful obe No

2219
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 3: one really knows, to be honest with you, But there's

2220
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: hope for a team like New England for a lot

2221
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 3: of people, as much hope as Vegas has given up.

2222
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 3: No Cleveland, are they going to be as bad as

2223
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 3: they were last year? Their roster talent is good, but

2224
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 3: their quarterback position was was weak. You're gonna have a

2225
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,600
Speaker 3: rookie at some point, most likely going to be the

2226
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 3: starting quarterback in that situation, but there's optimism there. So

2227
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 3: even with Tennessee with a first overall pick, I don't

2228
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 3: think anyone has any designs that cam Ward is gonna

2229
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: come in and light the world on fire.

2230
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: But he might.

2231
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 3: So the selling point that the league wants everybody to

2232
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 3: believe is, you know, there's new hope, you have that

2233
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 3: new quarterback, you have a new head coach, it's a

2234
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 3: new season.

2235
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: Anybody can go from worse to first.

2236
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: There was a run there. I think it might have

2237
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 3: been the NFC South where there was a new division

2238
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 3: winner for like seven straight years or something, and it

2239
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 3: just cycled through.

2240
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 2: So that's the hope that they sell you on. Does

2241
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 2: that realistic every single year?

2242
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 4: No?

2243
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 3: But I do think there's a chance that of these

2244
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 3: teams at all lost double digit that had double digit

2245
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 3: losses of the thirteen of them, is it unrealistic to

2246
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 3: say that five of them not only rise above double

2247
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 3: digit losses, but get somewhere around five hundred or above

2248
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 3: and compete for a playoff spot. I don't think that's unreasonable,

2249
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: just considering how the NFL is built.

2250
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I just so a couple of things

2251
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 2: that scared me. I think we talk about all the time,

2252
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 2: there aren't thirty two starting left tackles in the NFL.

2253
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there are thirty two starters, but they're not

2254
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 2: thirty two starting caliber left tackles in the NFL. So

2255
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 2: I worry about offensive line depth across the league. And

2256
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: I think that the more we get into longer seasons,

2257
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, the injuries seventeen games, just results and

2258
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 2: more injuries. It's just to us so bodies break down

2259
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: more and more and more. So I think injuries are

2260
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: becoming a bigger and bigger part of the story moving forward,

2261
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 2: kind of like we have to accept the fact that

2262
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: achilles are now a high risk in the NBA. I

2263
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 2: just I think depth is a bigger concern in the

2264
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: NFL for most teams. So I'm worried about depth. I'm

2265
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 2: worried about quarterback play for a lot of these teams.

2266
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm worried about offensive line play for a lot of

2267
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: these teams. And that's how you just sort of suddenly

2268
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 2: do the math because you're right. I use the Patriots

2269
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: is a great example. You got Rabel May all of

2270
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: the things you mentioned, okay, But I also turn around

2271
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: and say, oh, all right, Josh McDaniels is notorious for

2272
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 2: a very difficult offense. We know this as fans, But

2273
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 2: I remember talking to a former Patriot. He played in

2274
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 2: the league for over a decade, and he played very

2275
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: shortly for New England, and I asked him, when Josh

2276
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,919
Speaker 2: McDaniels was hired as a Raiders head coach, how difficult

2277
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: is that offensive language to learn? And he flat out

2278
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 2: told me no, no, did not mince words. Said it

2279
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 2: was the toughest offense he was ever around, and it

2280
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: was like learning a foreign language, even after a decade

2281
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 2: in the league. So what if Josh McDaniels just doesn't

2282
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 2: assimilate into that offensive language, or what if Drake May

2283
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 2: doesn't assimilate into that offensive language. Well, like, those are

2284
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 2: the things that I think right now, we just we

2285
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: don't know so like I hear you, I feel you

2286
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 2: all the way to my core that the NFL has

2287
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: sold us on this bill of hey, every year things

2288
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 2: are going to be better. But man, I still feel

2289
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: like Buffalo, there are consistent teams in the AFC, particular,

2290
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Buffalo is consistently very good. Buffalo, it's going to be

2291
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: great this year. Baltimore it's gonna be great this year.

2292
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: The Chiefs I think are going to be great this year.

2293
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 2: Like these are all easy equations to have, so when

2294
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 2: you clearly can see who the great's going to be,

2295
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: makes it really tough for me to also agree that

2296
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 2: the hanging chad can sort of fly its way up.

2297
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: Like I think the Browns quarterback position is just so

2298
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 2: absolutely dreadful that that team is just up against it.

2299
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why I should believe in Cleveland at all.

2300
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 2: Like it's just I feel like there are glaring doubts

2301
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 2: for so many teams in the AFC this year.

2302
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially in that division, you know, with with

2303
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and with you know, Cincinnati obviously, although they need

2304
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 3: to get their defense fixed, so they're probably gonna be

2305
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 3: right back where they were last season. Yeah, it's it

2306
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 3: does make it difficult for someone to rise from the

2307
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 3: bottom when you pretty much have stal warts at the

2308
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: very top of the conference on a year in, year

2309
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 3: out basis. And look, there are teams who were decent

2310
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 3: last year that might take a step back. I mean,

2311
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 3: Miami won eight games last year. I could see them

2312
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 3: easily winning fewer than that. You know, they can take

2313
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 3: a step back. Cincinnati if they don't get their defensive

2314
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 3: issues fixed. They you know, they won, they were nine

2315
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 3: to eight last year. They could potentially take a half

2316
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 3: step back. The South outside of Houston, I don't know,

2317
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna end up stacking it the way that

2318
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 3: is stacked up last year. And then I think the

2319
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 3: West is kind of the class of the of the

2320
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 3: entire conference when you have i think three top notch

2321
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 3: teams with the Kansas City, Los Angeles and Denver. And

2322
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 3: we'll see what kind of prior rest the Raiders make.

2323
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's something to be said for, you know,

2324
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 3: having your stalwarts at the top and everybody else kind

2325
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 3: of coming in behind. But one thing, and I think

2326
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 3: that's a big reason why why we like the NFL

2327
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 3: every single year, is because it's the great unknown. Because

2328
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 3: teams generally do come out of nowhere and end up

2329
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 3: surprising you and who that's gonna end up being this year,

2330
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 3: I don't really know. Again, I do think people are

2331
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 3: kind of sleeping on the charges and to a certain degree,

2332
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 3: I think Denver are two teams that can take giant

2333
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 3: steps up this season, but again, they're not coming from

2334
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 3: the doldrums to which goes back to your point. Those

2335
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 3: are two teams that are on the cup anyway, They're

2336
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 3: not the Titans who won three games, have a rookie quarterback,

2337
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 3: and people expect to be you know, the second coming

2338
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: of Patrick Mahomes is gonna jump them up to twelve

2339
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 3: win team. I don't think anybody necessarily expects that to happen.

2340
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 3: So to your point, I do think if you look

2341
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,560
Speaker 3: at it objectively, it's really difficult to look at it

2342
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 3: at teams that struggled mightily last season and seeing where

2343
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 3: their way out and getting up into the class of

2344
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 3: being a competitive team. You know, it's difficult to envision

2345
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 3: where that comes from. I'll give you that.

2346
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 2: Where are you right now on the Bengals going into

2347
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: the season again, historic offensive last year, just Joe Burrow

2348
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 2: was incredible last year, and that defense was just hot Grmage,

2349
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to make of a team

2350
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 2: that has absolutely no balance.

2351
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's more of the same. And look,

2352
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 3: they tried to they attempted to fix their defense and

2353
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 3: with their first round pick, and that's an entire mess

2354
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 3: which we can get into where we can now get

2355
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 3: into if you want I do it.

2356
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 2: Eventually he's gonna sign. I highly doubt that he's gonna,

2357
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 2: say Samar Stewart's sign, Like at some point you just

2358
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 2: feel like he's all of this. He's going back to

2359
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Texas A and m like that, and he's not going

2360
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 2: back to Texas. We all know, no, Like he's going

2361
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 2: to sign, right, Yeah, that's definitely gonna happen. Trey Henderson

2362
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 2: is he maybe set out training camp, maybe he drags

2363
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 2: it on and misses a game or two into the season,

2364
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 2: but he's not gonna miss out on the money that

2365
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 2: he is making.

2366
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 3: Just to make a point with Cincinnati. So those might

2367
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 3: be your two best defensive players, obviously, I think Hendrickson

2368
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 3: is the easy one. But they were so bad on

2369
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 3: defense and really didn't do a whole lot this offseason,

2370
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 3: at least when it comes to major you know, moves

2371
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 3: of note to improve it. So it's still gonna be

2372
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 3: a lot of forty to thirty eight final scores going

2373
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 3: into next season, and that's a high wire Iraq to

2374
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 3: have to play under. So quite honestly, I could see

2375
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 3: this year inning just the same way last year did

2376
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: for them. They're gonna be a team that's, you know,

2377
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 3: really exciting to watch, but probably hovering a game or

2378
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 3: above or below five hundred for the majority of the

2379
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 3: season if they get in depending on the matchup. If

2380
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 3: they're good enough offensively, they can win a shootout. But

2381
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: outside of that, I just don't see them being a

2382
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 3: legitimate title contender because they just haven't improved enough defensively.

2383
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: And that is such a like I feel like we

2384
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 2: are watching a model misuse of the quarterback position that

2385
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 2: is very reminiscent of the Dolphins with Dan Marino when

2386
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 2: I was a kid. Like you just you know that

2387
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is gonna go out and put out astronomical

2388
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 2: numbers and he's gonna just do everything he could possibly

2389
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 2: do for what And that's a frustrating part for all

2390
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: of us that are fans of teams that struggle to

2391
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 2: figure out the quarterback position. Then you have the Bengals

2392
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: who have clearly figured out the quarterback position, but can't

2393
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 2: figure out anything else. Like they've figured out the quarterback position,

2394
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position, come on, like they've got talent

2395
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 2: all over the offensive side of the ball. And it's

2396
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 2: just for what it's so frustrating to me. And I

2397
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 2: think it's just because my sheer jealousy that my favorite

2398
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 2: team doesn't have a Joe Burrow that I watch them.

2399
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 2: It's like watching your buddy that you know is in

2400
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 2: the dream relationship with the most beautiful, incredible woman of

2401
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 2: all time and he mistreats her and you're like, what

2402
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 2: are you doing? I would kill to have that? Like

2403
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,799
Speaker 2: that is what we are all watching the Cincinnati Bengals

2404
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 2: due to Joe Burrow.

2405
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 3: Well, and they're just notoriously cheap and they Nicolin dime

2406
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 3: you left and right.

2407
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 2: This is why so many unnamed all the record.

2408
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 3: Bengal players have sided with the Shamar Stewart in his

2409
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 3: dispute with the team, because they're trying to Nicholan Diamm

2410
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 3: on offset language in his contract which is already slotted

2411
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 3: as a first round pick. And so I mean, Joe Burrow,

2412
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 3: you know had you know his negotiation, We know what

2413
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 3: happened with Jamar Chase and T Higgins. So it's really

2414
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 3: just a misallocation of resources. Because look, if you're telling

2415
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 3: me that you don't have enough money to play Trey

2416
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 3: Henderson and don't have enough money to pay you know

2417
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 3: other guys, maybe you have to bite the bullet and say,

2418
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: you know what, we got Jamar Chase, we can't afford

2419
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 3: to keep T Higgins. We need to do that to

2420
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 3: upgrade our defense. It might have set you, Joe, but Joe,

2421
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 3: we're trying to feel the team here. But instead, you know,

2422
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 3: you'd go for the flashy names, but you don't actually

2423
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 3: build on the foundation, which is your offensive and defensive line,

2424
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 3: which is ultimately what's going to make the difference in

2425
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 3: whether or not you win. The reason they won that

2426
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 3: playoff game in the snow in Buffalo is not because

2427
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow threw for four hundred yards. They grinded them down,

2428
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 3: They won the line of scrimmage on both sides of

2429
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 3: the ball. And how they could be so far only

2430
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 3: a couple of years removed from that, but not acknowledge

2431
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 3: that and how their team is built is an indictment

2432
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 3: on that organization.

2433
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: It really so.

2434
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 3: I think more than anything, if resources are an issue

2435
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 3: for a franchise like the Bengals and we just don't

2436
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 3: have enough money to pay all these guys, fine, you

2437
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 3: need to be more savvy and either how you scout

2438
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 3: and bring guys in or how you allocate those resources

2439
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 3: across the roster. But right now, the way that they're

2440
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 3: operating is not a recipe for for winning. Paying Joe Burrow,

2441
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and te Higgins all the money and filling

2442
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,799
Speaker 3: in the holes everywhere else is just not a recipe

2443
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 3: for success.

2444
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 2: It's not. Yeah, and it's such a disaster because it

2445
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 2: just feels like the Bengals are sort of the opposite

2446
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 2: of the Browns in so many ways, Like the Browns

2447
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 2: have built a roster that I still believe can be

2448
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 2: very competitive. You know, I've been high in that roster

2449
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 2: for years. But their quarterback position is just it. It's

2450
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 2: out of control, and I don't believe. I'm not one

2451
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 2: that believes that the shouldo is going to come in

2452
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 2: and be a day one starter. I think the more

2453
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 2: I talk Yahoo Supports to all of our insiders and

2454
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 2: reporters that cover it, the more or they're around the team,

2455
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 2: the more it becomes very clear that they want to

2456
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: sort of slow play it, and the more it becomes

2457
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,480
Speaker 2: clear that they are so far happy with Dylan Gabriel's

2458
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 2: ability to process information quicker. So I don't think that

2459
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 2: the Browns are gonna be quick to admit that they

2460
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 2: wasted a third round draft pick. I don't think you

2461
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 2: door is going to be on the field, is a

2462
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 2: quick answer. And the Browns have a brutal schedule. So

2463
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: I feel for Browns fans who are looking at this brutal,

2464
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 2: awful start that they're going to go through, where they're

2465
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: taking on all of these really difficult teams while they

2466
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 2: just get hit in the mouth over and over again

2467
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 2: with no answer at the quarterback position, but the rest

2468
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: of a roster did you feel pretty good about? And

2469
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 2: then you're looking straight over at Cincinnati that has like

2470
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 2: I wish I could morph these two teams into one.

2471
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: If I could, just if I could just voltron the

2472
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Browns and the Bengals together, I get you a super Bowl.

2473
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny what the Browns are a

2474
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 3: commentary on. You know, one of those famous lines is

2475
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 3: you can't out you can't outrun bat ownership because if

2476
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 3: you look at the roster that just the sixty men

2477
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 3: roster for the Cleveland Browns, and it's excellent. Their defense

2478
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 3: is really good, really talented, with a mix of veterans

2479
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 3: and young guys. Offensively, they have a world of talent

2480
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 3: at the receiver position, David n Jok who they brought in.

2481
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 3: They have talent. But the one glaring issue that the

2482
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 3: one thing where ownership and everybody has to be aligned

2483
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: on as the quarterback position. And when they went out

2484
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 3: and gave to Shaun Wattson all that guaranteed money, thinking

2485
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 3: that that gave him the Godfather offer, thinking that was

2486
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 3: going to save them, it has absolutely crippled them for

2487
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 3: the last four years, absolutely crippled them because even if

2488
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 3: you had just a replacement level starter at the quarterback

2489
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 3: position that wasn't taking up that much money to a

2490
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 3: point where you feel like you're obligated to play him

2491
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 3: even though he's just been dreadful healthy or not. Their

2492
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 3: playoff team. Maybe they don't win a Super Bowl, but

2493
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 3: they're certainly in the conversation and they're not in a

2494
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 3: position like they were last year where they're winning three

2495
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 3: four games at a time. But when it comes to

2496
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 3: the biggest decision that needs to be made, which is

2497
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 3: the quarterback position. At the NFL level, the decisions of

2498
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 3: the ownership the non football people can have a trickle

2499
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 3: down effect and absolutely affect the success of your franchise

2500
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 3: as a whole. Because the general manager, the head coach

2501
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 3: Tefanski have done a phenomenal job putting together the roster,

2502
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 3: but because the one most important position has been bungled

2503
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 3: for the last four seasons, that's why they sit where

2504
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 3: they currently sit.

2505
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,879
Speaker 2: Well, And I mean, you want to talk about quarterback

2506
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 2: problems and part of the reason that I'm so wishy

2507
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 2: washy on so much of the league. I mean, look

2508
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 2: at the Colts, who last year had a better year

2509
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 2: than I think most of us realize. Record wise, the

2510
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 2: Colts weren't the abject disaster that we remember them being.

2511
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 2: The problem is their quarterback position is. And so now

2512
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Daniel Jones comes in and man,

2513
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, like a year ago, we weren't sitting

2514
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: here saying Sam Darnold's going to be the answer for

2515
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: the Vikings. So like Shane Steichen is a really good

2516
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: offensive mind that knows how to get a lot out

2517
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 2: of a mobile quarterback, and he's got one that we've

2518
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: seen good times from like part of me since here

2519
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 2: and says that I think maybe we're under selling Indianapolis

2520
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: a little bit because if they can get look, I

2521
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 2: believe Daniel Jones is the day once started.

2522
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 4: Though.

2523
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 2: If they can get even mediocre quarterback play from Daniel Jones,

2524
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 2: that's a step up from the absolute horrific you know

2525
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 2: what show that we had to watch from Anthony Richardson

2526
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 2: for the last year one thousand percent.

2527
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 3: And Jonathan Taylor, as weird as it might sound, is

2528
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 3: still I think one of the more underrated players in

2529
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,520
Speaker 3: the league, and maybe that's because he's played in Indianapolis

2530
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,799
Speaker 3: and they haven't been you know, the bastion of success

2531
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 3: that they were in their heyday with Peyton Manning and

2532
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 3: all those guys. But yeah, like Daniel Jones has shown

2533
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 3: like he's obviously the epitome of a game manager, but

2534
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 3: in the right system Ensteiching system where it's a very

2535
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 3: run heavy quarterback option using his athleticism to your point,

2536
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 3: I think he's a perfect fit and he's easily going

2537
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 3: to be the Day one starter.

2538
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is with Anthony Richardson.

2539
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 3: There's a report this week that I guess his shoulder

2540
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 3: is better and he's going to be ready for training camp,

2541
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 3: but obviously had he still had a ways to go

2542
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 3: when he did start from day one, So I think

2543
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: it's fairly obvious that Daniel Jones is going to be

2544
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 3: the day one starter. And to your point, I don't

2545
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 3: know exactly how difficult Indianapolis's schedule is this year, but

2546
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 3: if things break their way, I can now I can

2547
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 3: see them being a potentially a playoff team and a

2548
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 3: team that jumps up and might might jump Houston for

2549
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 3: that division, depending on how things shake out this year.

2550
01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's crazy because again this time of

2551
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: the year, it's so easy to find the good and

2552
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: so easy to find the bad, and we've done that.

2553
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: Now that being said, everybody in the world is telling

2554
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 2: you that the NFC North is going to be the

2555
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: best division in football next year. I don't agree. I'll

2556
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 2: tell you why. Next it's the Fellas. I'm Fox Sports

2557
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: Radio's Fellas. I'm Fox Sports Radio. He's Kevin Figures. I'm

2558
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: Jason fitz hanging out with you. This morning, Figgy, everybody's

2559
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 2: in love with the NFC North. Yeah, and I'm scared.

2560
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm scared, brother. I think there is a real reason

2561
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 2: to doubt a ton of that division. And it's not

2562
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 2: that I think all these teams are going to suck,

2563
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 2: like there's there's some line between all that. But I

2564
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 2: just look at the Lions for example. Yep, replacing an

2565
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator and basically every coach along

2566
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: the way. When you do that. We saw that work

2567
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 2: really well for Philly last year, but we saw it

2568
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 2: work really poorly the year before that. Right, Like, are

2569
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 2: we really sure Dan Campbell can just restock the cupboard

2570
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: and suddenly there's no drop off of Plus, if Ben

2571
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 2: Johnson is such an incredible coach that he's the savior

2572
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,839
Speaker 2: of the Chicago Bears, you can't just hire an offensive coordinator.

2573
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: You got to hire somebody that's as good as Ben Johnson,

2574
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 2: And apparently that's almost impossible to do the same with

2575
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 2: the thing with Aaron Glenn, Like he becomes a defensive

2576
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 2: minded head coach for the Jets, You're not just replacing

2577
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: a guy. You're replacing a guy that's so good that

2578
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 2: he was coveted in head coaching conversations, like, you can't

2579
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 2: just sort of nail these hires. You got to get

2580
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 2: every single one of them absolutely right. For a team

2581
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 2: that's in the middle of their Super Bowl window, and

2582
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 2: I could create a yeah, but for basically every.

2583
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 3: Team in this division. Yeah, I wanted to stick with Detroit.

2584
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 3: Not to mention the loss of Frank Ragnow, who's one

2585
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 3: of the best sinners in the entire league, on a

2586
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 3: team that prides itself on being physical and being one

2587
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 3: of the most physical team in the NFL and beating

2588
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 3: you up up front, and they're going off of the

2589
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 3: run game, and you know, heaven forbid that run game

2590
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 3: takes a half step back this year, and now you

2591
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 3: have to put games in the hands of Jared Goff,

2592
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 3: who put up great numbers last season. Sure, but again

2593
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 3: that was under the guys of having a run game

2594
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 3: behind him.

2595
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

2596
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm not as bullish on Detroit as a lot of

2597
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 3: people are. First of all, they're going to take a

2598
01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 3: step back by default because they went fifteen to two

2599
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 3: las year year, So asking them to replicate that sort

2600
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 3: of record is just impossible to begin with. But yeah,

2601
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 3: I losing all of your coordinators, I think is being

2602
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 3: discounted by a lot of people. There's something to be

2603
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 3: said for continuity and keeping the same verbiage and all

2604
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 3: that stuff, but that only takes you so far.

2605
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 2: There's managing a game. It's not just calling plays.

2606
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 3: There's a nuance in the coordinator position that I think

2607
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 3: it's lost for a lot of people. I was talking

2608
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 3: to bre about this doing one of the commercial breaks,

2609
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 3: because she told me about the over under for Minnesota

2610
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 3: this year being at eight and a half, and I

2611
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 3: really vacillated with it because I like Minnesota's roster, I

2612
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 3: just don't know what I'm getting from JJ McCarthy, and

2613
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 3: their schedule is just way too difficult for me to

2614
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 3: put as lofty of an expectation as them being a

2615
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 3: nine or ten win team again this year.

2616
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: That's the hardest part, you know, when you look at Minnesota,

2617
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 2: that one's easy to sit there and say, okay, so

2618
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 2: we trust a quarterback that has had two procedures on

2619
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: his knee lost such a staggering amount of weight during

2620
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 2: the process of that that people were worried. Now he

2621
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: started to put it back on, but also didn't play

2622
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 2: any meaningful football last year. So there's gonna be some rust.

2623
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: And let's go back to when he was drafted. It's

2624
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: not like we saw him absolutely. I mean I understand

2625
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: that film junkies found in individual plays and said, no,

2626
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 2: this is the sign. This is a sign. But like

2627
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 2: JJ is the farthest thing from a absolute. We have

2628
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 2: this massive body of work that he's going to just thrive.

2629
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: I talked to Justin Jefferson for Yahoo the last week,

2630
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 2: and you know, Justin even said I want him to

2631
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 2: be as a confident in himself as I am in him.

2632
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's an accident that you say

2633
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 2: something like that. I just don't think anybody knows right now.

2634
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 2: So you know, I think eight and a half is

2635
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 2: a like the Vikings feel like just a money making opportunity.

2636
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: Eight and a half would be a big drop off

2637
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 2: for fourteen wins. Yeah, yeah, that feels staggering. But I

2638
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: do think I could see him getting their way down

2639
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 2: to ten, you know, And that's such a and the

2640
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 2: same with Chicago, Like I know, Bears fans are super excited.

2641
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 2: I would be too. You got a great head coach. Everybody,

2642
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 2: it looks great, But my god, I mean we don't know,

2643
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 2: oh that Caleb Williams and Josh Josh mcdanni's good guy,

2644
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson are going to be a good fit. We

2645
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 2: don't know that that Ben Johnson it's first time being

2646
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 2: an NFL head coach, Like, we have no idea what

2647
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 2: that actually looks like. Remember when Dan Campbell was hired,

2648
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: everybody thought it was going to be a disaster. He

2649
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: was the lowest ranked of all of the coaching hires

2650
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: that year by ESPN, and he's turned out to be

2651
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 2: wildly successful. We don't know what coaching guys like. It's

2652
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 2: such a different world. I can't sit here and tell

2653
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: you with any level of confidence that Ben Johnson and

2654
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 2: Caleb suddenly click. Everything aligns. The offense is great, the

2655
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: offensive line editions work, the coaching turnover turns out to

2656
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 2: be this big boom, and all of a sudden, the

2657
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: Bears win ten games. Like, I just think that's being

2658
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: really generous. It's generous.

2659
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 3: I am a little bullish on the Bears because they

2660
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 3: have a lot of things working in their favor. The

2661
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 3: fact that Ben Johnson had as much success as he

2662
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 3: did with a player like Jared Golf has been as

2663
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 3: inconsistent as he has been throughout his entire career. We

2664
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 3: see the roll talent that Caleb Williams has. His pocket

2665
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 3: discipline could be improved, obvious, But if he's going to

2666
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 3: be in a Ben Johnson offense that's primarily you know,

2667
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 3: behind center and a lot of play action and allow

2668
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 3: of rollouts to taking advantage of his physical abilities, I

2669
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: think it's easy to envision and see. Based on Ben

2670
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 3: Johnson's experience and based on Caleb Williams's talents, along with

2671
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 3: the other talent on the roster that they've added offensively,

2672
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 3: I think it's easier to see them being able to

2673
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 3: take a bit of a leap this season. Look, I'm

2674
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 3: fairly confident in saying that, barring injury, they're not going

2675
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 3: to be as bad as they were last year. They're

2676
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 3: going to be better than a five to win football team. Now,

2677
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they're going to win fifteen games

2678
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 3: or fourteen games or anything like that. But I'm more

2679
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 3: bullished in on Chicago individually as a team that I

2680
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 3: think that I think you might be well.

2681
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 2: Last year, I thought the Bears were going to make

2682
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 2: this big leap into the playoff conversation, and that didn't happen.

2683
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 2: So I'm sort of in wait and see mode. And

2684
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that that means. This comes back to

2685
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 2: the way we started this whole show when we were

2686
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 2: talking about the w Like, I think that there's a

2687
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 2: we don't always have to bang our fists and say

2688
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 2: this team sucks, that this team's great, right. I think

2689
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: that there are some real question marks about the Bears.

2690
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 2: I think there's some real question marks for the Vikings

2691
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. I think there's some real question

2692
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: marks with the with the coaching in Detroit, and Frankly,

2693
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 2: as you well know, I'm not sitting here and planning

2694
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 2: the flag for Jordan Love. Like I don't know if

2695
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is really great. So like I think there's

2696
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 2: a question mark around Green Bay. If Jordan Love turns

2697
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 2: out to take this big ascension forward in year three

2698
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 2: as the starter, then hell yeah, like the Packers are

2699
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 2: going to be great. If he doesn't, then the Packers

2700
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: are going to be mid. And like, all of this

2701
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 2: leads me to the NFC North just being kind of mid,

2702
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 2: not not not what people want it to be right now.

2703
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly echo the sentiment because there's just a

2704
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 3: lot of unknowns throughout all of those teams, and I

2705
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 3: think that the general assumption is, well, Detroit was great

2706
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 3: last year, they're going to be great again. Minnesota was great,

2707
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 3: Green Bay is going to be great. In Chicago's only

2708
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 3: going to be better. But I don't think you can

2709
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 3: just kind of look at it in a in a

2710
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 3: macro vacuum like that, And when you pick apart each

2711
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 3: team individually, there certainly are question marks for all of them.

2712
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 3: And I think you can pretty much say that about

2713
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 3: every team in every division. But because to your point,

2714
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 3: the MC North has been lauded as the best division

2715
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 3: in all of football, so granted it was last season,

2716
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 3: but these things are all cyclical. It doesn't necessarily mean

2717
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 3: it's going to hold up, especially when you have such

2718
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 3: major variables that have changed. A major coach is leaving

2719
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 3: and all pro players leaving, and a coach a new

2720
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 3: head coaching higher in Chicago and losing a quarterback in Minnesota.

2721
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 3: There's some major turnover and major changes that will affect

2722
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 3: how that division plays out. So I don't think it's

2723
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 3: as easy as e quoting what happened last seasons of

2724
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 3: this year, because there have been just way so many

2725
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 3: variables that have changed.

2726
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 2: And that's where it reminds me of a few years

2727
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 2: ago when everybody was ready to anoint the AFC West

2728
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: long before the season started, and then was surprised that

2729
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 2: the West didn't rise to that occasion. I think the

2730
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,400
Speaker 2: NFC North is a very good division. I'm just not

2731
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 2: sure that I can stand here today and say that

2732
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 2: the NFC North is going to be this juggernaut that

2733
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 2: absolutely can't be taken down. I think there's plenty of

2734
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 2: reason to think that all of these teams normalize into

2735
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 2: a much more mediocre version of the division. In the meantime,

2736
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 2: one team could take a massive step back, and I'll

2737
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 2: tell you who that is next, The Fellas on Fox

2738
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

2739
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2740
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't, as a sports fan, typically feel jealousy. In fact,

2741
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 2: I feel hope. So when I see a terrible franchise

2742
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 2: turn it around, I don't sit there and think, why

2743
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 2: can't my favorite team do that? I turn around instead

2744
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 2: and say, there is the path. There is hope, because

2745
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 2: if they can do it, we can do it. There's

2746
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 2: reason to love it. So when a bad team turns

2747
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 2: things around, I love it. I love it for second

2748
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 2: of it. So it pains my heart to then have

2749
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 2: to say that a bad team that has turned it

2750
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 2: around might be a second year pullback. And that's exactly

2751
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 2: what I think the Washington Commanders are gonna be this year.

2752
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,400
Speaker 2: It's the Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. He's Kevin Figures,

2753
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,800
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Speaker 8: Many Swings hits it in a year to de blaft Field,

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Speaker 5: He Looksten, It's gonna go.

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Speaker 8: Manny Machado hits the Padres first Grand Slam of twenty

2766
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Speaker 8: twenty five, and it's a big one against Kyle fit

2767
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Speaker 8: again here in the ninth inning as the Padres break

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Speaker 8: it open, Hey go ahead seventy two.

2769
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Speaker 2: Padres Radio Network on the call, Manny Machado with the

2770
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 2: Grand Slam Kevin figures, I don't know how I feel

2771
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 2: about them playing a Padres highlight. I mean, there's a

2772
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 2: lifelong diehard Dodgers fan, like I've been for a few months.

2773
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 2: I think pri like Bri. I don't know, Brie, you

2774
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 2: couldn't find anything other than a Padres highlight to get

2775
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 2: me there. I have been a diehard fan for like

2776
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 2: seven minutes, and you you hit me with the Padres Highlight.

2777
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 2: I think Grand Slam. That's awesome.

2778
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: It's a good call.

2779
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 3: Got a troll fits like that breathe it's messed up.

2780
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, guys, I were wissed. When I think

2781
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 2: Grand Slam, I think like everybody. I think Denny's. Okay,

2782
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:05,920
Speaker 2: that's what I think of the Denny's Grand Slam breakfast, which,

2783
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 2: by the way, could give waffle Like moons over my

2784
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 2: Hammy at Denny's could give waffle House a run for

2785
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 2: their money. Figie, I'm just saying for fact, Moon's up

2786
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:14,760
Speaker 2: for my Hammi could give waffle House a run.

2787
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 3: So this goes back to the discussion we had in

2788
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 3: the first hour talking about waffle House and going back

2789
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 3: to the WNBA and all that stuff. But so you

2790
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 3: are a Denny's versus waffle House because I was gonna

2791
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 3: ask you about I Hop versus waffle House because I

2792
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 3: feel like that's more that's usually the bigger debate. But

2793
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 3: maybe not because Denny's I've always associated, at least in

2794
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,800
Speaker 3: recent years, more of like that's where your grandma goes,

2795
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, in the morning, gets her senior discount, does

2796
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 3: her thing, you know. But I Hop versus waffle House

2797
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 3: is really like, all right, now, you came home after

2798
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 3: a concert or something. It's late at night, nothing else

2799
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 3: is open. And now if Denny's or if waffle House

2800
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 3: is on one side of the street and I Hop

2801
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 3: is on the other side of the street, and you're

2802
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 3: sitting there and have a giant dilemma, what side of

2803
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 3: the street are you going on?

2804
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm always going the waffle House side of the street,

2805
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 2: there is no doubt. But if I you know, been

2806
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,800
Speaker 2: a long time since I was drunk, But if I

2807
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 2: was drunk, I would absolutely like there is something about

2808
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 2: moons over my Hammi that just hits It hits different.

2809
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:11,280
Speaker 2: It is a beautiful thing. There's no doubt about it.

2810
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 2: I Hop, I don't know. I had a buddy years

2811
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 2: ago that we all went to I Hop and this

2812
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 2: is like twenty years ago. We're all sitting there. I

2813
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: ordered chocolate chit pancakes, like the adult I am, and

2814
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 2: he ordered a country fried chicken or chicken fried chick whatever.

2815
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, chicken fried steak whatever, country fried steak it.

2816
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was country fried chicken, though it was a

2817
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 2: country fried chicken version of us. Yeah, and so I'll

2818
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 2: never forget, you know. I looked over at him and

2819
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 2: I said, hey, man, how's your how's your chicken? And

2820
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 2: he just looked up with the the just blankest look ever,

2821
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: and he said, there's a reason they don't call this

2822
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 2: place international house a country fried chicken. And I'll never

2823
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 2: forget that, you know. So whenever I go to I Hop,

2824
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 2: I only order pancakes because it's yeah, that's all.

2825
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 3: This goes back to the WA files discussion earlier. It's like, yeah,

2826
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 3: they have healthy options, but why would I order that?

2827
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 3: When I go there, I was it's like, yeah, you

2828
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna go to McDonald's, which I never do.

2829
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 3: But I go to McDonald's, I'm gonna get a salad shaker.

2830
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 3: I was like, no, if you're going to McDonalds, you're

2831
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 3: getting yourself a you know, a big Mac or something

2832
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 3: and and and loads of fries and and a shake.

2833
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go to one

2834
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 3: of the bastions of you know, things that take that

2835
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 3: tastes great but it's awful for you. And then try

2836
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 3: to get the healthiest thing.

2837
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:20,360
Speaker 2: On the menu.

2838
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 3: If that's the case, go to Whole Foods. Why am

2839
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 3: I gonna go to McDonalds to try to eat healthy?

2840
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 3: Why am I gonna go to Iye Hop and get

2841
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 3: a country fried chicken as opposed to you know, a

2842
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 3: stack of flapjacks.

2843
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 2: You know, a stack of Flapjacks is a great band name.

2844
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Stack of Flapjacks. I just that is?

2845
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 2: That is all right, Bree. Are you team waffle House,

2846
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Team I Hop or team Denny's. You gotta pick one.

2847
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 1: So I just like waffle House.

2848
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 9: We don't really have out here, so that is true.

2849
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 9: That's kind of hard to say. I mean, we have

2850
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 9: Roscoes can I Did I throw that in there?

2851
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

2852
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go I Hop because I love pancakes,

2853
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,000
Speaker 9: So I'll go I hog for sure.

2854
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. You know, I just want one

2855
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 2: super like everybody. I was working with somebody a few

2856
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 2: years ago that was saying, I just want one service

2857
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: that will combine all of my streaming things into one

2858
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,560
Speaker 2: guide so I can just pick what I want to watch.

2859
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm describing cable.

2860
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:14,839
Speaker 3: You're just exactly.

2861
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You have admitted you want Cable.

2862
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 2: There is a part of me that I want to

2863
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,720
Speaker 2: be able to walk into like a restaurant at some point,

2864
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, like they have the especially New England does

2865
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 2: this beautiful. They do their like rest stop sort of

2866
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 2: gas station things, like these travel plazas better than anybody.

2867
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 2: They're like, you don't have to get off the highway.

2868
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 2: It's like on the side, it's like a rest stop.

2869
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 2: You pull in, there's one hundred gas stations and then

2870
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of restaurants in this one thing. They have

2871
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 2: them all over the place. So great. I want one

2872
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:46,960
Speaker 2: of those like concepts that's just breakfast places so I

2873
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 2: can walk in and I can kiosk myself, you know,

2874
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 2: a mix of give me like the pancakes from Ihob

2875
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 2: moons over Miami from Denny's, a waffle from and cheesy eggs.

2876
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 2: Let's not be of course, not limit them from waffle House.

2877
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 2: And then you know, put all that together, you can

2878
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:08,160
Speaker 2: have the McDonald's in there too, in case you're feeling

2879
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 2: the egg McMuffin. Like that is what I need, all

2880
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 2: of those places to be in one combined restaurant where

2881
02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 2: I can kiosk exactly what I want from me? Can

2882
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 2: we add one more bob Evans oh.

2883
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 3: Down on the farm, baby, Okay, I know of bob Evans,

2884
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 3: but I've never been there. Mark, Okay, so what am

2885
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 3: I missing at bob Evans?

2886
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 2: Guys? What do you got? It's just to sit down,

2887
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 2: you know, another brand name, but just just their way

2888
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 2: of doing things. Okay, So I will give you your

2889
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 2: random bob Evans fun factor you didn't need because even

2890
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 2: for years, I've attempted, you know, sort of to be healthy.

2891
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 2: We'll update that in a minute, but I've attempted sort

2892
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 2: of over the years. And there was a period because

2893
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 2: they had bob Evans everywhere around Nashville in the South

2894
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 2: for years, and I would go in and I get

2895
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:52,520
Speaker 2: the grilled chicken, right, and I was like, I'm eating

2896
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 2: grilled chicken and Bob Evans it's fine. I'm being healthy.

2897
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: And then a buddy of mine actually showed me the

2898
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:00,160
Speaker 2: nutritional info on the Bob Evans grilled chicken. And the

2899
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 2: funny thing is they soak it in a butter bath

2900
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 2: before they make it, which is why their chicken is

2901
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 2: so dang good when you get their grilled chicken. But

2902
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 2: it also means when you look at the nutritional content

2903
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 2: on it, it's terrible for you.

2904
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 4: It is.

2905
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 2: It's the one place that you eat grilled chicken and

2906
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 2: you're like, man, I'm not I shouldn't eat this. Bob

2907
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 2: Evans down on the farm, baby, they but mighty Mark,

2908
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 2: You're right. Everything in Bob it's like just a good

2909
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 2: old country restaurant. It just tastes great.

2910
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the website right now. Their food looks amazing.

2911
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, nothing speaks healthy Southern food. And

2912
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 3: chicken breads smothered in butter. That's that's right there. That's

2913
02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:33,320
Speaker 3: dirty South good eating right there.

2914
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 2: I love it. Oh, giant biscuit on theer plate somewhere too,

2915
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, so all that stuff goes into cracker barrel

2916
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,440
Speaker 2: biscuits too. Like I'm hungry now, y'all, Like, right, Barrel

2917
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 2: biscuits and apple butter oh man, like when Cracker Barrel

2918
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 2: started serving alcohol recently. They just told you right there.

2919
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, oh, we understand what this is about now,

2920
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make sure that you get what you need.

2921
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 3: We have an update. I didn't realize that was a thing.

2922
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 3: I've been to a cracker barrow one time when I

2923
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 3: once my sister wents to Tuskegee University in Alabama. So

2924
02:08:58,160 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 3: we went to a cracker Barrel not too far from

2925
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 3: there and got shrimp and grits, which I thought was

2926
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 3: a weird concept initially, but I was like, ah, I'm

2927
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 3: down here, it's something different.

2928
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 2: I'll try it. To this day.

2929
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 3: One of the greatest things I've ever eaten in my life.

2930
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 3: And that's and that says a lot I like to

2931
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 3: think of. I'm decently well traveled. I've been around the world,

2932
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,520
Speaker 3: different countries and all that stuff. Cracker barrel shrimp and

2933
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 3: grits one of the best things I've ever eaten. And

2934
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why. Yeah, there is a backlash, and

2935
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if if you guys have noticed this.

2936
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 3: People are taking a lot of shots at Cracker Barrel

2937
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, and I don't understand why.

2938
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, if you're on a road trip, you can

2939
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 2: just like swing into cracker barrel and you can ask

2940
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 2: for a side of biscuits and apple butter, and they

2941
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 2: will give you that you can take with you for

2942
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 2: the car, just a huge, heaping container full of delicious

2943
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:46,600
Speaker 2: biscuits that are warm with apple butter. And then you

2944
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 2: just start, you know, dipping and like stuff in your

2945
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 2: face while you're driving. Oh god, it's so good, so

2946
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 2: good man.

2947
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta get to another cracker barrel sometime

2948
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 3: someday soon.

2949
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,720
Speaker 9: Can I ask you about shrimp and grits?

2950
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 4: What is that.

2951
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 2: Grits? Is this Southern thing? Like you know shrimp and grits? Yet,

2952
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 2: like I don't know.

2953
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 9: I'm from not southern area.

2954
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean in the South, they'll put anything with grits.

2955
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 1: Like.

2956
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 2: So the funny thing is like there when I moved

2957
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 2: to Nashville a long time ago, is late nineties, all

2958
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 2: the restaurants there were meat and threes is what they

2959
02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 2: call them. So like you walk in and you pick

2960
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 2: your country meat and your three veggies. But when they

2961
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,480
Speaker 2: say three veggies, they don't actually mean a real vegetable.

2962
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 2: It's like fried okra, mac and cheese and mashed potatoes,

2963
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 2: like none of it is actual. So like in the

2964
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 2: South forever, they've been like, hey, let's take a basic

2965
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 2: protein and stack it on something that's gonna make it

2966
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Speaker 2: taste better. That's the basic concept shrimp and grits right

2967
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,000
Speaker 2: right down the middle on that, Like grits. Grits are everywhere.

2968
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a big gritsky, but grits are everywhere. So

2969
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: you put some, you pop some shrimp on there, and

2970
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:52,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, bam, you got to you got

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Speaker 2: the equivalent of a air quotes healthy meal in the South.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, grits by themselves are not much of anything. It

2973
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 3: all depends on the presentation. How your flavor it up.

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Speaker 3: Some people like to put shrimp in it, cheese people.

2975
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 3: Some people put sugar in it. And I'm never a

2976
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 3: big big fan of sugar in the grits, but that

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02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 3: that's that's all it's about. So basically, Uh, there was

2978
02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 3: like a spicy sauce I don't remember exactly what it

2979
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 3: was at the time along in there along with the shrimp,

2980
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 3: and it's all mixed together and it was simple but

2981
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Speaker 3: spectacular is the way.

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Speaker 9: That I I just googled a picture of my I've

2983
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 9: never heard I didn't know that they made shrimp and grits.

2984
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 2: I know they made what's what's it called biscuits.

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Speaker 5: I love.

2986
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 2: You say shrimp and grits with such like disdain.

2987
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 9: For the combinations sound delicious. So I'm just I've never

2988
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:39,160
Speaker 9: heard of it. I guess I'm kind of surprised. Like

2989
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:41,080
Speaker 9: my heart rate went up a little bit, like, oh,

2990
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 9: what is this?

2991
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Should I travel? I mean that your heart rate goes

2992
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 2: up and then all of a sudden, your cholesterol goes up,

2993
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 2: pressure grows up and goes up. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, A six hundred pound life is my goal. So

2995
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 9: we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you spend a year in the South, you'll

2997
02:11:56,120 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 2: get there. I get there very easily. Imagine. Okay, I'm

2998
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,280
Speaker 2: out on the commanders. Not out on the commanders. The

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Speaker 2: commanders are going to take a step back this year.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I promise we'll get to it.

3001
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3002
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3003
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Speaker 2: Live Sefellas on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Fitz hanging out

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Speaker 2: with the incredible Kevin Figures, having a good time this morning,

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Speaker 2: see today's show. Post it right after we get off

3018
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Speaker 2: the air. We did some WNBA this morning, talking about

3019
02:13:02,680 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 2: the All Star talked about All Star games in general,

3020
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 2: talked a lot of football, some college football with that.

3021
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 2: A hell of a stacked morning, but we were just

3022
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 2: talking about truly important things figgie, like which breakfast place

3023
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Speaker 2: you would choose between all of the chains, and it

3024
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Speaker 2: did have me. I wanted to give you an update.

3025
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 2: It's been a minute. I know, we haven't been together.

3026
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 2: Everybody knows how much to talk about it, but I

3027
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 2: thought I might give it a little cheat code here.

3028
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 2: I figured something out on my fitness journey. Are you

3029
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Speaker 2: ready for a fitness update?

3030
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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go fitcy Fitness the Journey Update.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That just makes me feel an immaculate

3033
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 2: So for anyone that's brand new to this thing and

3034
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:45,760
Speaker 2: hasn't listened to me for three seconds, because it's all

3035
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 2: I talk about in half the time of my life,

3036
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm worse than a vegan. Now all I do is

3037
02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 2: tell everybody that I work out. I acknowledge it. But yeah,

3038
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 2: I've been on this journey and through this process I

3039
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 2: ended up. I lost like forty five pounds and then

3040
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,840
Speaker 2: put on and now I'm up to almost fifteen pounds

3041
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:03,520
Speaker 2: of muscle that I put on on this So I

3042
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:07,440
Speaker 2: completely transformed my body, can cut my body fat. It's

3043
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 2: been a wild journey. But part of this is counting macros, right,

3044
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:13,200
Speaker 2: and so I've got a trainer that does everything in

3045
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 2: an app. He tells me, you know what macros to

3046
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,840
Speaker 2: hit and what to work out. All of this is

3047
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:19,120
Speaker 2: done in an app. So I pay him and he

3048
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 2: works it out. Every week or two we adjust something.

3049
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:24,920
Speaker 2: So he comes in and tells me how many calories

3050
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 2: to eat, how much fat, how much carbs, all that stuff,

3051
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 2: which is overwhelming, right, like it's terrible. This is the

3052
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 2: this is the update that everybody needs to know. I

3053
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 2: went in to chat cheapt, right, we all use AI

3054
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 2: now in this world. It's like it's blown up the

3055
02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 2: chat GPT, and I said, here are my macros every

3056
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 2: day and can you help me? And I had a

3057
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:47,080
Speaker 2: dietician friend that I was going to hire, and I

3058
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:48,520
Speaker 2: went to and I said, I want, I want you

3059
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:50,280
Speaker 2: to just tell me exactly what to eat so I

3060
02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 2: don't have to think. And she said, you know what,

3061
02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 2: you don't need to pay me, just go to chat chepet.

3062
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,120
Speaker 2: So she gave me the idea. So I went to

3063
02:14:57,200 --> 02:14:59,600
Speaker 2: chat chepet. Let me tell you brother, like I told

3064
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:01,800
Speaker 2: chat GPT, the foods I like the foods. I don't

3065
02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:04,000
Speaker 2: like what. I just don't like to eat. Like I

3066
02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:05,680
Speaker 2: don't like bananas. I'm the one guy, the guy in

3067
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:07,560
Speaker 2: the world. I hate the taste of bananas. So wow,

3068
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 2: immediately when I was making this up, I was like,

3069
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't like bananas, Okay, So it eliminated all of

3070
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 2: these things from the list. Then I told it where

3071
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 2: I live, and it was able to separate it literally

3072
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:18,720
Speaker 2: for me, and I was like, I want to eat

3073
02:15:18,760 --> 02:15:21,480
Speaker 2: as cost effectively as possible with this little waste, but

3074
02:15:21,640 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 2: stay within these macros. Exactly. It broke down my shopping

3075
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: list and it said, Okay, here's stop and shop the

3076
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 2: local sort of you know, normal grocery store. Here's what

3077
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 2: you need to buy from stopping shop this week, broken

3078
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:36,080
Speaker 2: down by asle in the store of the most of

3079
02:15:36,160 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 2: the closest store to your home, so that you have

3080
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:40,840
Speaker 2: the easiest shopping list. Here's what you need to buy

3081
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:43,120
Speaker 2: from Costco this week, broken down by isle of the

3082
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 2: map of the one closest to your home, so you

3083
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:47,360
Speaker 2: know how to shop this week. It tracked all of it,

3084
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,480
Speaker 2: and then literally every morning I just go in, like today,

3085
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 2: when we finish the show, I'll open that file on

3086
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:55,800
Speaker 2: chat GPT and I'll type in today's a medium calorie day,

3087
02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 2: So what am I having for breakfast? And it gives

3088
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 2: me exactly what to measure out of a exactly the

3089
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,840
Speaker 2: foods I like. And then later in the day, like

3090
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 2: it set up calendar reminders to tell me when I

3091
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 2: need to eat. If I forget, it will tell me

3092
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 2: and then I can just chat in And even remarkably,

3093
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,080
Speaker 2: I went to eat a sushi yesterday with some buddies,

3094
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:15,839
Speaker 2: right I took a picture. I just took a picture

3095
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,720
Speaker 2: of my food, and I uploaded it into chatch ept

3096
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 2: and it read the macros from the picture and updated myself.

3097
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 3: Stop seriously, next level ridiculous.

3098
02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 2: It's wid like I for anyone that's ever sat there

3099
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:29,920
Speaker 2: and said, I don't want to track my food, like

3100
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,880
Speaker 2: I literally don't. I was in the grocery store and

3101
02:16:32,959 --> 02:16:34,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to get some halo top, like some ice

3102
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 2: cream of some sort. I don't have that very often,

3103
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:39,080
Speaker 2: but I wanted it. So I just took a picture

3104
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 2: of the entire, the entire shelf of ice cream that

3105
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 2: they had at the grocery store, and I said, I

3106
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 2: want to add this this week, but only if I

3107
02:16:46,120 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 2: can eat the entire carton which one can I have?

3108
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,520
Speaker 2: And it broke down which one it told me was

3109
02:16:51,560 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 2: one to buy. And then yesterday when I'm going through

3110
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 2: my meals, I was like, it's time for the next meal,

3111
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 2: and it came back and it was like, hey man,

3112
02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,600
Speaker 2: you're crushing it today, the ice cream would work out

3113
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:01,360
Speaker 2: perfectly if you want to eat the full carton right now,

3114
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I do want to eat the full carton

3115
02:17:03,480 --> 02:17:06,200
Speaker 2: of chatch ept. Yes, I want my full carton a

3116
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:08,000
Speaker 2: halo top Like it is that intuitive?

3117
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:12,039
Speaker 3: Now, that is insane. And obviously with people talk about

3118
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,840
Speaker 3: the AI revolution and AI taking over and taking away jobs,

3119
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about you know, trainers. I mean

3120
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:20,440
Speaker 3: you type in, here's my weight, here's what I want away.

3121
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:22,600
Speaker 3: Here are the things that I'm willing to do. I

3122
02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 3: got a bad knee, so I can't do this. What

3123
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:26,600
Speaker 3: are the things that I can do? And instantaneously it'll

3124
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:30,640
Speaker 3: tell you sets, reps, days, rest periods, all that stuff

3125
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 3: to break. For you to be able to take a

3126
02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:35,440
Speaker 3: photo of an entire wall of food basically and for

3127
02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 3: it to tell you exactly what you're looking for out

3128
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:40,800
Speaker 3: of a particular item on that wall is next level.

3129
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 3: It's scary, but it's also super cool, Like it's amazing.

3130
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:46,760
Speaker 3: It makes things so much easier for you to you

3131
02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 3: basically have a personal assistant that you really don't have

3132
02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:51,440
Speaker 3: to lift a finger, or I guess you literally do

3133
02:17:51,560 --> 02:17:53,199
Speaker 3: have to lift a couple of fingers just to type

3134
02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:56,880
Speaker 3: and outside of that, you're done. That's next level incredible

3135
02:17:56,920 --> 02:17:59,640
Speaker 3: and your journey, you know, losing forty five pounds and

3136
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:03,000
Speaker 3: reshaping your body that way in short order, because this

3137
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 3: is only this has been this start at what last

3138
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:06,800
Speaker 3: right before the start of last football season, right if

3139
02:18:06,800 --> 02:18:07,520
Speaker 3: I remember correct, it.

3140
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:10,040
Speaker 2: Was last summer last, so it's been in here right

3141
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:11,000
Speaker 2: right at a year.

3142
02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible. So and major props to you, brother,

3143
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 3: that's that's amazing as someone who you know, who weighed

3144
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:18,800
Speaker 3: about you know, the way like the amount of an elephant,

3145
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:20,440
Speaker 3: you know, some years ago. Then I lost a lot

3146
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 3: and then put a little bit back on. I'm trying

3147
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 3: to get back on your journey. So knowing that I

3148
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:26,760
Speaker 3: don't have to hire a trainer or hire a nutritionist

3149
02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 3: and I can do all this at the you know,

3150
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 3: basically at the click of a couple of keys on

3151
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:32,879
Speaker 3: a keyboard is absolutely amazing.

3152
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 2: So you're an inspirational figure.

3153
02:18:34,680 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 3: For me for sure.

3154
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,360
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. Well thank you, but it is crazy,

3155
02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:40,920
Speaker 2: and I only I want to tell everyon I'm going

3156
02:18:40,959 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 2: to make a video about it for social media too,

3157
02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 2: about the chat JPT thing, because I think charting what

3158
02:18:45,640 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 2: you eat gets super overwhelming, and I have found myself

3159
02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:50,800
Speaker 2: even over the course of this journey, like once I

3160
02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 2: didn't want to eat the same things at the same

3161
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:54,600
Speaker 2: times every day, I wanted to mix it up. And

3162
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 2: once I started trying to mix it up, the number

3163
02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 2: of times I'm sitting there at the end of the

3164
02:18:57,800 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 2: night and I'm like, well, I have forty ams and

3165
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 2: carbs I'm supposed to eat and I don't even know

3166
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:03,960
Speaker 2: where to get that, but not be over Like it's

3167
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:06,440
Speaker 2: too much thinking and it's so overwhelming. So to just

3168
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:10,280
Speaker 2: be able to, you know, type in, hey, it's time

3169
02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 2: for meal five, and it's like, hey, here's three different

3170
02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:14,120
Speaker 2: options based on what we know you have on hand

3171
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 2: because we helped you buy the groceries and we know

3172
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:17,920
Speaker 2: what you like to eat. And it's like, oh, okay,

3173
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:20,160
Speaker 2: I'll take option one. Great, And then you know, I

3174
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,280
Speaker 2: know exactly what to measure and exactly what to make.

3175
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:23,920
Speaker 2: It takes all the thought out of it, which I

3176
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:26,640
Speaker 2: think is for most people. The most daunting part of

3177
02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 2: these sorts of journeys isn't just the self control. It's

3178
02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:33,280
Speaker 2: also just man, You're constantly thinking about what you're eating

3179
02:19:33,320 --> 02:19:35,200
Speaker 2: and what you're doing and what you're extra Like you're

3180
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:37,720
Speaker 2: constantly thinking and it just gets overwhelming. So it takes

3181
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:40,280
Speaker 2: all the thinking away, which is you're right, Like there's

3182
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:44,280
Speaker 2: a there's a broader AI conversation about what it means

3183
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 2: for future employment, you know, for all of us. Like

3184
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:49,760
Speaker 2: people keep asking me about music AI, Like I believe

3185
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:52,119
Speaker 2: AI is going to take over music in the next decade.

3186
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:55,200
Speaker 2: Like it's just I think it's inevitable that there will

3187
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:57,400
Speaker 2: be there will be real music people for people that

3188
02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:00,040
Speaker 2: want real music. But just like college football is and

3189
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:02,560
Speaker 2: have two separate categories, they'll be a real music category

3190
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 2: and a bunch of people that just want to listen

3191
02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:09,120
Speaker 2: to you know whatever. This next generation's One Direction or

3192
02:20:09,480 --> 02:20:12,119
Speaker 2: Backstreet Boy or Bitney Spears is gonna be. That's gonna

3193
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:14,400
Speaker 2: be AI generated pop in in five years and no

3194
02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 2: one's gonna care. Yeah, we definitely are. Our palettes are

3195
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to change to a certain degree.

3196
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 3: Well from just from a work standpoint, you know, a

3197
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:26,360
Speaker 3: certain jobs that were available even five years ago that

3198
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:28,320
Speaker 3: five years from now are no longer going to exist,

3199
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:30,039
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to try to find a way

3200
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:32,360
Speaker 3: to get your way into the AI space and you're

3201
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:34,880
Speaker 3: the person that used to actually do that work. Now

3202
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 3: you're the person that has to program the computer that

3203
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:38,880
Speaker 3: does that work or something something like that.

3204
02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:43,280
Speaker 2: You know, well, it's even in our business, Like there

3205
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 2: are companies right now that are literally working on the

3206
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 2: technology to allow play by play in games to be

3207
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 2: AI generated, and I think that's inevitability. So in a

3208
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 2: few years, when you're listening to a college football game

3209
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:59,080
Speaker 2: on a Saturday, there's a chance that you'll be listening

3210
02:20:59,120 --> 02:21:01,520
Speaker 2: to kind of like all the Instagram videos have that

3211
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 2: fake voice on it, You'll be listening to that voice

3212
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:07,200
Speaker 2: basically tell you what's happening in the game. And because

3213
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:10,000
Speaker 2: the game can be tracked real time and the computer

3214
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:13,400
Speaker 2: can just simply tell you what you're seeing. So like,

3215
02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:17,720
Speaker 2: these are inevitabilities of just where it's going. I don't

3216
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:19,240
Speaker 2: know how to stop that train. I don't think you

3217
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:21,440
Speaker 2: do stop that train. And it will save people, you know,

3218
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:24,480
Speaker 2: save companies millions of dollars to not have to pay

3219
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:26,840
Speaker 2: people to do that, So they're gonna do it.

3220
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. Look, we all know in the

3221
02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 3: society we live in, the almighty dollar rules rules over everything.

3222
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:36,400
Speaker 3: It's the reason why we're talking about college football expansion

3223
02:21:36,480 --> 02:21:39,080
Speaker 3: and haves and have nots and people being left behind

3224
02:21:39,400 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 3: because the money is just getting bigger and bigger and bigger,

3225
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,840
Speaker 3: and you know, I forget exactly where our hearts is before.

3226
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:47,280
Speaker 3: But rich people don't get rich by spending money, you know,

3227
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 3: so they find ways to save as much as they

3228
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:52,200
Speaker 3: possibly can around the margins. And if it has to

3229
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 3: sacrifice something like when it comes to Playboy play you know,

3230
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:57,440
Speaker 3: so be it one thing that gets lost and you know,

3231
02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:59,080
Speaker 3: I know we'll get We'll get into the Commanders here

3232
02:21:59,120 --> 02:22:00,520
Speaker 3: in a little bit. And all that going a bit

3233
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:03,240
Speaker 3: of a tangent, and it's not necessarily sports, but it

3234
02:22:03,320 --> 02:22:04,359
Speaker 3: goes back to sports.

3235
02:22:04,120 --> 02:22:05,520
Speaker 2: Because you want thing you don't want to get lost.

3236
02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 3: One thing that makes things like college football so special

3237
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:12,200
Speaker 3: the NFL, all of our connections to our local franchisees,

3238
02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 3: is the even the implied relationship that you have with

3239
02:22:15,840 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 3: people who are writers or more specifically team broadcasters. And

3240
02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,080
Speaker 3: the more and more we get into AI based, if

3241
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:23,840
Speaker 3: we get to a point where there's actually games being

3242
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:26,880
Speaker 3: called by computers and there's no actual person that you

3243
02:22:26,959 --> 02:22:29,160
Speaker 3: can reach out in touch, whether you can actually physically

3244
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:31,000
Speaker 3: do it or not, you're run into them when they're

3245
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:33,000
Speaker 3: coming out of the press box or something, or whether

3246
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 3: you just feel a connection to them that something like

3247
02:22:36,320 --> 02:22:38,560
Speaker 3: that will end up getting lost and can't be replaced

3248
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,200
Speaker 3: once you start ramping up AI more and more and more.

3249
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 3: And I just wonder if we're heading down a road

3250
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 3: where if there's going to be a disconnect between the community,

3251
02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:51,000
Speaker 3: connection between specifically college football and local broadcasters and local

3252
02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:53,800
Speaker 3: media people and fans, if everything is just going to

3253
02:22:53,800 --> 02:22:55,720
Speaker 3: be AI driven at a certain point, and if something

3254
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 3: about the sport, the magic of it is going to

3255
02:22:57,800 --> 02:22:58,840
Speaker 3: get lost in there somewhere.

3256
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:02,880
Speaker 2: Well, there are certainly maybe a lot of people don't

3257
02:23:02,920 --> 02:23:06,400
Speaker 2: realize this, but the recaps that you used to read

3258
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:08,680
Speaker 2: or that people do read about, you know games, what

3259
02:23:08,800 --> 02:23:11,920
Speaker 2: happened last night in the you know Lakers MAVs game.

3260
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:16,840
Speaker 2: Those recaps that you see written so often were written

3261
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:19,879
Speaker 2: by a person, and then they were written by one

3262
02:23:19,959 --> 02:23:22,040
Speaker 2: person at the Associated Press for a long time and

3263
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:25,200
Speaker 2: pulled out to all these different resources, so you know,

3264
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:27,960
Speaker 2: a limited number of writers we're writing recaps on games.

3265
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 2: Most sites now are using an AI generated writing path

3266
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:36,160
Speaker 2: that writes the recap of the game. So already even

3267
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:38,520
Speaker 2: just the here's what happened in last night. Like, if

3268
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:41,279
Speaker 2: all you're doing is the here's what happened without basis

3269
02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:44,240
Speaker 2: of opinion, it's hard for AI right now to form

3270
02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:47,400
Speaker 2: a conversation with a lot of opinion because all they

3271
02:23:47,480 --> 02:23:49,800
Speaker 2: can do is form the information they're given to give

3272
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,000
Speaker 2: you the best guess on what the facts are. Right,

3273
02:23:52,120 --> 02:23:54,879
Speaker 2: So it's hard for them to form opinion. But we're

3274
02:23:54,920 --> 02:23:58,920
Speaker 2: already seeing this, and you know, we're seeing AI generated commercials,

3275
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:03,160
Speaker 2: and we're seeing AI generated you know, long form or

3276
02:24:03,240 --> 02:24:07,240
Speaker 2: YouTube shorts, and so AI generated animation is everywhere, and

3277
02:24:07,400 --> 02:24:10,120
Speaker 2: so you just have to wonder at some point what

3278
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:14,720
Speaker 2: what I mean we we are in this really weird again,

3279
02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:16,640
Speaker 2: this is deep philosophical stuff. But this what we do

3280
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:20,280
Speaker 2: on the fellow sometimes of course, like the first fully

3281
02:24:20,360 --> 02:24:23,960
Speaker 2: robotic McDonald's is open that has no human employees in it.

3282
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 2: So like at some point, I do wonder what everybody's

3283
02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:32,200
Speaker 2: gonna do us included for jobs, Like how can anybody

3284
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:35,480
Speaker 2: make money if there are no jobs? And how are

3285
02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:40,040
Speaker 2: companies making money if there aren't opportunities to charge for things?

3286
02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 2: So I don't, you know, I just don't know the answer.

3287
02:24:42,760 --> 02:24:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm not smart to figure any of that out.

3288
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I mean I have

3289
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 3: heard somebody to bring up at one point in time,

3290
02:24:48,400 --> 02:24:51,040
Speaker 3: it was like, is Madden gonna turn into the NFL?

3291
02:24:51,959 --> 02:24:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean there's already.

3292
02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean Twitch has been so big over the last

3293
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:57,959
Speaker 3: fifteen years or so, and now these gamers, there's giants,

3294
02:24:57,959 --> 02:25:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, multi million dollar tournaments of people playing video games,

3295
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:03,760
Speaker 3: and these guys are making so much money. He's like,

3296
02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 3: We're ever gonna have a time where the actual product

3297
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:09,959
Speaker 3: on the field is literally just a simulation. Is literally

3298
02:25:10,040 --> 02:25:11,800
Speaker 3: it's not even real people anymore, or if it is

3299
02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:15,280
Speaker 3: real people, it's real people controlling you know, uh, the

3300
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:18,400
Speaker 3: animated figures, it's video games. I was like, I doubt

3301
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:20,280
Speaker 3: that it will get to that point, but based on

3302
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 3: how things are going, I can't. I guess I can't

3303
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:23,400
Speaker 3: necessarily rule something.

3304
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 2: Like that out. I can't rule out a time where

3305
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 2: eventually robots are playing all of our sports. I just,

3306
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, like we just keep seeing all of this.

3307
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:35,040
Speaker 2: I know that's a wild, crazy thought. Like I'm not

3308
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 2: a person, as you will know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

3309
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't care y'all can't scream this loud enough.

3310
02:25:41,440 --> 02:25:43,119
Speaker 2: I don't care if we've never landed on the Moon.

3311
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 2: It's not going to change my Saturday. I don't care

3312
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:49,360
Speaker 2: if if the NASA Space program is fraudulent. I don't

3313
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:53,240
Speaker 2: care most things in the world. I just don't care.

3314
02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Like I frankly, I'm just if you want to tell

3315
02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:00,000
Speaker 2: me one plus one equals three. Keanu Reeves famously said

3316
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 2: this recently. Then like, fine, I'm done arguing. I don't

3317
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:07,760
Speaker 2: even care enough to argue. It's like, okay, cool, you're right,

3318
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I don't care. So I'm really oblivious to

3319
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:14,959
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of this. But there are points where

3320
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:16,880
Speaker 2: you have to look around and just say, okay, what

3321
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:18,800
Speaker 2: does all of this mean for the I don't think

3322
02:26:18,920 --> 02:26:21,200
Speaker 2: robots are going to take over the world. I think

3323
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:24,039
Speaker 2: people that can control robots might have a better shot

3324
02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:26,400
Speaker 2: at taking over the world. Yeah, Like, you know, if

3325
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 2: you're smart enough to figure out how to build a

3326
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,160
Speaker 2: football team a smart of robots, then you're probably going

3327
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,680
Speaker 2: to be successful in thirty forty years. I don't know

3328
02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 2: what all of that looks like, but it feels like

3329
02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:40,039
Speaker 2: all of these things are pretty inevitable at this point. Yeah. Well,

3330
02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:40,200
Speaker 2: you know.

3331
02:26:40,280 --> 02:26:42,440
Speaker 3: The good thing is if we know bet on robots,

3332
02:26:42,480 --> 02:26:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, I guess there's a little chance of them

3333
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:46,600
Speaker 3: taking money under the table and tanking games and being

3334
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:50,039
Speaker 3: embroiled in controversies or anything like. There's no Terry Rogier

3335
02:26:50,120 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 3: situation happening within automaton, you know what.

3336
02:26:52,280 --> 02:26:54,240
Speaker 2: I mean, at least you wouldn't think.

3337
02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:57,080
Speaker 3: So I can go in there and I reprogram their

3338
02:26:57,280 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 3: the motherboard or something or whatever that's supposed to mean.

3339
02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows well robots can be consistent.

3340
02:27:02,280 --> 02:27:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure actual NFL teams can look at that

3341
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:08,080
Speaker 2: segue and you're a radio professional or something. Thank you

3342
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:11,280
Speaker 2: so much. I think the Washington Commanders stand out to

3343
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:13,680
Speaker 2: me as a team that you know, we said earlier.

3344
02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that all of a sudden, you know,

3345
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:19,119
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Washington winning seven games, But when

3346
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:22,119
Speaker 2: you look at the advanced metrics on one possession games,

3347
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,119
Speaker 2: and you look at the advanced metrics on fourth down

3348
02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:29,280
Speaker 2: conversion rate and turnovers and games lost to injury and

3349
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:32,240
Speaker 2: all of these different things, it just feels like last year.

3350
02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't love to say lucky, so I will say this.

3351
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:37,720
Speaker 2: Last year, the Commanders were kissed by the football gods,

3352
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure that they're going to get a

3353
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,560
Speaker 2: second makeout session. I still think that they're a very

3354
02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:44,000
Speaker 2: good football team, and they have Jayden, and as long

3355
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:45,360
Speaker 2: as you have Jaden, I think you have a chance

3356
02:27:45,440 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 2: to absolutely do anything you want in any situation that

3357
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:51,600
Speaker 2: can be true. I also think Commanders fans will feel

3358
02:27:51,640 --> 02:27:53,160
Speaker 2: like the sky is falling if they take a bit

3359
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:55,560
Speaker 2: of a step back and only win ten games. Much

3360
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:58,160
Speaker 2: like a year ago, right now we were having these

3361
02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:00,840
Speaker 2: conversations about the ceiling for the Techs, only to find

3362
02:28:00,879 --> 02:28:02,760
Speaker 2: out the Texans took a little step back and have

3363
02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 2: some work to do. I think the Commanders were a

3364
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,440
Speaker 2: bit above their skis last year. They take a bit

3365
02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:09,520
Speaker 2: step back, a bit of a step back this year,

3366
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:11,480
Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean that they're bad. It just means

3367
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to annoint them as the favorite in

3368
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:14,160
Speaker 2: the NFC. Yeah.

3369
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:16,200
Speaker 3: Well, they had so many close games, especially down the

3370
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 3: stretch of the season, as so many things that broke

3371
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 3: their way. Of course, we know the crazy hell Mary

3372
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:22,880
Speaker 3: pass at the end of the year to help them win.

3373
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:26,200
Speaker 3: Usually these things correct themselves. A team that wins all

3374
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:29,120
Speaker 3: the close games one year is usually they don't necessarily

3375
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:31,040
Speaker 3: lose all of them and next that next year, but

3376
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:33,560
Speaker 3: they're definitely a little bit of a regression back to

3377
02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:36,680
Speaker 3: the mean. And when it comes to young quarterbacks, I

3378
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:39,200
Speaker 3: think the Texans is a perfect example because everybody thought

3379
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:39,600
Speaker 3: that CJ.

3380
02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Stroud, who came on as a.

3381
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:42,879
Speaker 3: Great rookie, will come on and light up the league

3382
02:28:42,879 --> 02:28:44,680
Speaker 3: the next year, and what we saw was a bit

3383
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 3: of a regression. And that happens a lot with quarterbacks.

3384
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:50,400
Speaker 3: Usually there's a little bit of a sophomore slump once

3385
02:28:50,400 --> 02:28:52,360
Speaker 3: the league figures you out. That's not always the case.

3386
02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes as great as a rookie, and he was

3387
02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:56,840
Speaker 3: great moving forward after that. But that's Patrick Mahomes, you know,

3388
02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:59,080
Speaker 3: so he's a little bit of a unicorn when it

3389
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:02,160
Speaker 3: comes to that. I don't think it's controversial of a

3390
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 3: statement at all to say that Washington takes a bit

3391
02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:06,199
Speaker 3: of a half step back this year and Jane Daniels

3392
02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:09,520
Speaker 3: maybe isn't as productive as he was last season, because

3393
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:12,240
Speaker 3: that's just how things usually go for a young quarterback

3394
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:14,080
Speaker 3: and a young team that's still growing. I still think

3395
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,439
Speaker 3: they're a good team. I still think they'll make the postseason.

3396
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,640
Speaker 3: But I don't think they're going to be as good

3397
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:20,520
Speaker 3: as they were last season for the reasons you mentioned.

3398
02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, even people around the organization last

3399
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:28,600
Speaker 2: year were sort of telling everybody that they were surprised

3400
02:29:28,640 --> 02:29:31,120
Speaker 2: they were as good as they became so quickly. And

3401
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 2: that's just a statement to Jayden and I want to

3402
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:36,000
Speaker 2: take nothing away from Jayan Daniels. When you have a

3403
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 2: superstar at the quarterback position, and it looks clearly like

3404
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:41,320
Speaker 2: they have a superstar at the quarterback position, you always

3405
02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:44,040
Speaker 2: have a shot, right there is no doubt about it.

3406
02:29:44,520 --> 02:29:47,800
Speaker 2: I think that they got the dan Quinn higher obviously

3407
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:50,760
Speaker 2: looks brilliant right now. Cliff Kingsbury did such a good

3408
02:29:50,879 --> 02:29:54,520
Speaker 2: job last year of just unfolding layers of the offense

3409
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:57,560
Speaker 2: in stages to help Jayden be as competitive as he

3410
02:29:57,600 --> 02:29:59,560
Speaker 2: could be throughout each stage. Like I remember a month

3411
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:02,440
Speaker 2: in some analysts were sitting there saying Jayden Daniels can't

3412
02:30:02,440 --> 02:30:04,160
Speaker 2: even throw the ball downfield, like they're not letting him

3413
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:05,720
Speaker 2: throw the ball pass the line of scrimmage. This as

3414
02:30:05,720 --> 02:30:07,800
Speaker 2: a joke, and it's like, what do you know. Cliff

3415
02:30:07,879 --> 02:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Kingsbury knew what he was doing and was getting his

3416
02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:13,720
Speaker 2: quarterback comfortable playing NFL football every Sunday. I think that's

3417
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:16,160
Speaker 2: kind of a beautiful thing. So they did so many

3418
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:19,000
Speaker 2: things really well last year, and it's such an easy

3419
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 2: story to root for, because, as I said earlier, when

3420
02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:23,480
Speaker 2: you are a fan of a team that has been

3421
02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:26,760
Speaker 2: dormant for so long and just somewhere between the sea

3422
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:28,720
Speaker 2: a suck and the sea of irrelevance for so long,

3423
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:30,680
Speaker 2: and you see them jump up, it gives all of

3424
02:30:30,760 --> 02:30:32,840
Speaker 2: us hope, like maybe this can be our year, Like

3425
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 2: there is something beautiful about that. So I think it's

3426
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:37,960
Speaker 2: easy to root for the Commanders moving forward, just like

3427
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:40,800
Speaker 2: it's easy to root for CJ. Stroud and the Texans

3428
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,960
Speaker 2: to move forward. But let's also just remind ourselves a

3429
02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 2: year ago, the Texans were supposed to be competitive with

3430
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:50,280
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Bills, and it

3431
02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:52,440
Speaker 2: turns out instead they were just in that next tier

3432
02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:55,120
Speaker 2: of pretty good. I think that's kind of similar to

3433
02:30:55,240 --> 02:30:57,560
Speaker 2: what could happen this year to the Commanders. While they'll

3434
02:30:57,600 --> 02:30:59,880
Speaker 2: still be in the tier pretty good, I just won't

3435
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:02,080
Speaker 2: with them in the tier of elite. I'll give you that.

3436
02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:04,400
Speaker 2: And since we're in a we're up against the break here.

3437
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:06,480
Speaker 3: But since we're in the NFC East right now, what

3438
02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:09,400
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys, Because there are

3439
02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:11,680
Speaker 3: people out there who are very optimistic despite the fact

3440
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:13,760
Speaker 3: that I think they have suffered a major downgrade at

3441
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:17,000
Speaker 3: the head coaching position. And yes, they've upgraded at receiver

3442
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:19,400
Speaker 3: that should be better offensively and they'll get Dack back.

3443
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:21,920
Speaker 3: I am not bullish at all on the Cowboys this season.

3444
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm curious as to what your outlook is on them. Yeah, no,

3445
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:26,760
Speaker 3: you're one thousand percent right. By the way, go back

3446
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:28,080
Speaker 3: and look at Shotty's offenses.

3447
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Like just Shoty's offensive have been bad for a long time,

3448
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:34,080
Speaker 2: and he loves to run the football, so all in

3449
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:38,280
Speaker 2: who's running the football? Right? I just it doesn't At

3450
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:40,280
Speaker 2: some point, I think we have to remember who was

3451
02:31:40,320 --> 02:31:42,560
Speaker 2: calling the plays last year versus who's calling the plays

3452
02:31:42,600 --> 02:31:45,560
Speaker 2: now and what any of it looks like. And frankly,

3453
02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:48,160
Speaker 2: I was just harsh about first time head coach for

3454
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:51,200
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Okay, I got to be consistent about that.

3455
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us have any idea what

3456
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Shoty's going to be like as a head coach, and

3457
02:31:56,440 --> 02:32:00,520
Speaker 2: I believe his offenses are better suited to power offenses

3458
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 2: that are going to be stubborn to run the football,

3459
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:05,400
Speaker 2: and that's not what the Cowboys are. So I feel

3460
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:07,440
Speaker 2: like this is a weird match and it's going to

3461
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:08,840
Speaker 2: be a frustrating year in Dallas.

3462
02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:10,640
Speaker 3: It would not surprise me at all if this is

3463
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:13,080
Speaker 3: a one and done situation for Brian shot and I'm

3464
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:14,720
Speaker 3: not rooting against him. I do not want him to

3465
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:16,360
Speaker 3: fail at all. I was a fan of Marty. I

3466
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:18,920
Speaker 3: loved his father, all that stuff. I want him to

3467
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:21,360
Speaker 3: do well personally. I got nothing against Brian Schottenheimer, but

3468
02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:23,840
Speaker 3: just the production level isn't there. And you talk about

3469
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:26,879
Speaker 3: the comparison to Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson had multiple teams

3470
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:29,200
Speaker 3: knocking at his door this offseason, the last two off

3471
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:31,200
Speaker 3: seasons to see if he can be a head coach.

3472
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 3: How many people were really, you know, lining up to

3473
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:35,960
Speaker 3: sign Brian's to bring in Brian Schottenheimer for our head

3474
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:37,440
Speaker 3: coaching interview over the last few years.

3475
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:39,160
Speaker 2: God, No, I mean you're right.

3476
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:40,560
Speaker 3: You know what does that tell you?

3477
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:43,879
Speaker 2: I mean there is, there is. If you're a Cowboys fan,

3478
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:46,360
Speaker 2: your your reason for hope is that Jerry does a

3479
02:32:46,400 --> 02:32:49,520
Speaker 2: good job usually of hiring a coach that's good enough, correct,

3480
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:52,600
Speaker 2: But if your reason for hope is that Jerry finds

3481
02:32:52,640 --> 02:32:54,160
Speaker 2: the coach that can get you to the super Bowl,

3482
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 2: we know that that's not the case. So I don't

3483
02:32:56,600 --> 02:32:58,240
Speaker 2: feel great about it. I do feel great about The

3484
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:00,840
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3485
02:33:00,879 --> 02:33:03,720
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3487
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3489
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3491
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3492
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:23,680
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3493
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 2: It's the Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Ah feels good.

3494
02:33:27,560 --> 02:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Every Saturday after we disconnect from this show, I find

3495
02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:37,480
Speaker 2: myself singing my way when I feed the dogs. That's

3496
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:39,279
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3497
02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:42,920
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Radio. He's Kevin Figures.

3498
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz. Bree and Mighty Mark doing God's work,

3499
02:33:46,680 --> 02:33:50,879
Speaker 2: doing an incredible job keeping us on track. Figure. It's

3500
02:33:50,920 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 2: been fun. It's just been fun to have it, you know,

3501
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:55,600
Speaker 2: I feel like we've got It's like playing basketball with

3502
02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 2: somebody that you'll up playing basketball with the you haven't

3503
02:33:57,520 --> 02:33:59,240
Speaker 2: gotten to play within a minute. It's just it's just

3504
02:33:59,320 --> 02:34:01,560
Speaker 2: been fun. Buddy. I'm glad. I'm glad we got to

3505
02:34:01,720 --> 02:34:02,720
Speaker 2: do this to this. I am too.

3506
02:34:02,760 --> 02:34:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm glad we're able to link up and do this again.

3507
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:06,520
Speaker 3: It's been a long time. Hopefully it won't be you know,

3508
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:08,720
Speaker 3: six seven, eight months before we get a chance to

3509
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:11,120
Speaker 3: do this again. And maybe one day you, Anthony and

3510
02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:12,720
Speaker 3: I can all do a show together one more time.

3511
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 2: That'd be great. I mean that would be That is

3512
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:19,920
Speaker 2: the actual dream. Anthony. Obviously getting today off, we've been

3513
02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:22,040
Speaker 2: talking a lot about a bunch of different things. Can

3514
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,879
Speaker 2: I give you a football team right now that everybody

3515
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:27,440
Speaker 2: always wants to give benefit of the doubt something I

3516
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:30,040
Speaker 2: say too often that I don't think deserves it this season.

3517
02:34:30,280 --> 02:34:34,480
Speaker 2: What do you got San Francisco? I absolutely yeah, Like

3518
02:34:34,879 --> 02:34:36,879
Speaker 2: this is six and eleven team last year that we're

3519
02:34:36,920 --> 02:34:39,240
Speaker 2: talking about, Like they're on the precipice of greatness, and

3520
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:43,520
Speaker 2: everybody says, well, injuries, injuries, injuries, Okay, they're also not

3521
02:34:43,600 --> 02:34:47,440
Speaker 2: a particularly young roster. They were injured in key spots.

3522
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we can trust Christian McCaffrey to

3523
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:51,920
Speaker 2: be healthy at this point. I have no idea. We

3524
02:34:51,959 --> 02:34:55,120
Speaker 2: don't know what we're expecting. They're like, it feels like

3525
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,640
Speaker 2: they have less weapons. I don't know. Like I just

3526
02:34:57,720 --> 02:34:59,720
Speaker 2: look at it and say, how are we going from

3527
02:34:59,720 --> 02:35:02,280
Speaker 2: six eleven to Super Bowl contender just because they have

3528
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:04,039
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and Brock Party got paid.

3529
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:06,879
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I mean, you lose Debo. Brandon

3530
02:35:06,920 --> 02:35:09,000
Speaker 3: Ayuk is not going to be there coming back from

3531
02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:13,080
Speaker 3: from a serious acl MCL injury. Christian McCaffrey, I don't

3532
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:14,760
Speaker 3: know what the over under one games played for him

3533
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 3: this year is going to be, but I'm probably gonna

3534
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:19,000
Speaker 3: put it at I'll say nine, and I might take

3535
02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:22,520
Speaker 3: I'll probably take the under because unfortunately, because he's a

3536
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:25,520
Speaker 3: spectacular talent, he just can't stay healthy and has been

3537
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:27,000
Speaker 3: able to stay healthy for the last three four years.

3538
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:29,480
Speaker 3: At this point, I love I do like Party. I

3539
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,320
Speaker 3: do think Party is underrated. You can call him a

3540
02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:33,879
Speaker 3: game manager, call him whatever you want. He's I think

3541
02:35:33,959 --> 02:35:35,840
Speaker 3: for the offense that they run and what he's asked

3542
02:35:35,879 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 3: to do within that offense, he masters it, but he's

3543
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:41,200
Speaker 3: not good enough to overcome deficiencies. And they have a

3544
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:43,240
Speaker 3: deficiency when it comes to the receiver position.

3545
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:44,480
Speaker 2: Not knowing what.

3546
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:46,720
Speaker 3: McCaffrey, if McCaffrey's going to be there, how long he's

3547
02:35:46,760 --> 02:35:49,119
Speaker 3: going to be healthy for is an issue. And their

3548
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 3: defense I think aged out to a degree outside of

3549
02:35:51,520 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 3: Frett Warner and a couple of others, So they have

3550
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:56,080
Speaker 3: to retool their roster. I think John Lynch even admitted

3551
02:35:56,120 --> 02:35:58,160
Speaker 3: to this in the offseason. He said, we are we

3552
02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 3: had to get younger. We had to make some cuts,

3553
02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:01,879
Speaker 3: We have to make some tough decisions, have to get

3554
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:04,920
Speaker 3: younger as a roster. So if you look, if you

3555
02:36:04,959 --> 02:36:07,080
Speaker 3: want to say, if all things work out and McCaffrey

3556
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:09,000
Speaker 3: plays the majority of the schedule and Party takes a

3557
02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 3: leap forward, I love Shanahan as an offensive coach and

3558
02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:16,040
Speaker 3: offensive mine. I think at best maybe they went in

3559
02:36:16,120 --> 02:36:18,360
Speaker 3: eleven games, but I think that's really a stretch.

3560
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:23,320
Speaker 2: I really do, and not to me. The Shanahan part

3561
02:36:23,360 --> 02:36:27,240
Speaker 2: of this is interesting and I'm just saying interesting because

3562
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to say overrated. But man, there's been

3563
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:33,360
Speaker 2: some really good years and there's been some really bad years.

3564
02:36:33,560 --> 02:36:37,040
Speaker 2: And every time there's a bad year, there's an excuse

3565
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:38,800
Speaker 2: for why it's a bad year. And every time there's

3566
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:41,160
Speaker 2: a good year, it's because Shanahan's brilliant and they figured

3567
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 2: it out. I just don't I don't know, man, Like,

3568
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 2: it's just we judge not getting it done when your

3569
02:36:49,760 --> 02:36:52,600
Speaker 2: window is open so harshly for so many teams. I

3570
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:56,320
Speaker 2: just wonder if it's time to have that harsh conversation

3571
02:36:56,600 --> 02:36:59,920
Speaker 2: around hey, like this got screwed up like you did.

3572
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:03,160
Speaker 2: You didn't get it done. You had a window, you

3573
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:06,560
Speaker 2: had a window of greatness and you just and he

3574
02:37:06,600 --> 02:37:09,840
Speaker 2: didn't get it done. And so now how are you

3575
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:12,000
Speaker 2: going to move forward? Because I do believe that there

3576
02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:15,040
Speaker 2: is a there's an opportunity and maybe even a need

3577
02:37:15,480 --> 02:37:18,440
Speaker 2: to simply press reset at some point for this entire

3578
02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:20,840
Speaker 2: organization to figure out how to compete for the next decade.

3579
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's the thing. You feel like you have

3580
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:24,879
Speaker 3: the head coach and yeah, you can say what you want,

3581
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:27,440
Speaker 3: and his game management skills and Super Bowls and Obviously,

3582
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 3: if you want to go back to when he was

3583
02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:30,880
Speaker 3: a coordinated with the Falcons, with the twenty eight to

3584
02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:32,680
Speaker 3: three Super Bowl and all that we can give him that,

3585
02:37:33,440 --> 02:37:35,680
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that he's a good, decent enough

3586
02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:37,960
Speaker 3: talent evaluator. Their drafts the last couple of years have

3587
02:37:38,400 --> 02:37:41,040
Speaker 3: left a little to be desired, but generally speaking, he

3588
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:43,720
Speaker 3: and John Lynch putting that roster together since they've been there,

3589
02:37:43,760 --> 02:37:45,960
Speaker 3: I think they've done a pretty damn good job. And

3590
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:47,880
Speaker 3: you're not going to do a full scale rebuild because

3591
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:51,119
Speaker 3: you believe you have your quarterback of the future. Now, look,

3592
02:37:51,280 --> 02:37:53,720
Speaker 3: maybe if there's a dearth of talent from an offensive

3593
02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:57,200
Speaker 3: skill position standpoint, maybe brock Perty ends up getting exposed

3594
02:37:57,240 --> 02:37:59,240
Speaker 3: because he just doesn't have the physical measurables. He's not

3595
02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes who can make magic happen. He needs rhythm

3596
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:04,240
Speaker 3: and timing and needs things to happen within the offense

3597
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:06,600
Speaker 3: for him to be successful. So maybe it tanks, But

3598
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:09,120
Speaker 3: they're not going to do a full scale on tear

3599
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:11,720
Speaker 3: down from the bottom and rebuild because I believe that

3600
02:38:11,840 --> 02:38:14,039
Speaker 3: they believe they have the head coach that can get

3601
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:15,840
Speaker 3: it done and they have the quarterback to get it done.

3602
02:38:15,879 --> 02:38:18,480
Speaker 3: So maybe what this is fits it's a soft rebuild.

3603
02:38:18,959 --> 02:38:20,960
Speaker 3: We scale back a little bit, we clean up some

3604
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:23,880
Speaker 3: of our books, we try to draft a little bit better,

3605
02:38:23,959 --> 02:38:26,200
Speaker 3: and when and if some big name free agents come

3606
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:28,800
Speaker 3: available or in the trade market, we have money available

3607
02:38:28,879 --> 02:38:30,760
Speaker 3: to try to retool this thing and make another run.

3608
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:33,160
Speaker 3: But I do think their window is closed to a

3609
02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:35,520
Speaker 3: certain degree. But I don't think it's all the way

3610
02:38:35,560 --> 02:38:37,480
Speaker 3: closed from a Shanahan standpoint. I just think they need

3611
02:38:37,560 --> 02:38:39,840
Speaker 3: to retool a little bit and get back on track

3612
02:38:39,879 --> 02:38:40,959
Speaker 3: here in the next couple of years.

3613
02:38:41,440 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, and that's where it's also tough, because you're looking

3614
02:38:44,440 --> 02:38:47,560
Speaker 2: at a RAMS team that just I mean, I'm sorry.

3615
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:49,880
Speaker 2: I think there's plenty of reason to be high on

3616
02:38:49,959 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 2: the RAMS cover sure, based on the way everything went

3617
02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:55,920
Speaker 2: last year. And you know, I think the DeVante Adams

3618
02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:58,720
Speaker 2: edition for them is a significant one. So you know,

3619
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the RAMS, and as much time as

3620
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:03,360
Speaker 2: we're spending, it's almost like paying no attention to the

3621
02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:05,440
Speaker 2: man behind the curtain. We spend so much time talking

3622
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,880
Speaker 2: about the forty nine ers in Kyle Shanahan and John

3623
02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 2: Lynch and how good that organization is. When I'm not

3624
02:39:12,320 --> 02:39:14,880
Speaker 2: sure that the gold standard isn't the other team in

3625
02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:18,160
Speaker 2: that division, because the Rams certainly seem like I'm never

3626
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:21,800
Speaker 2: doubting Sean McVeigh again, it just seems futile to do that,

3627
02:39:21,959 --> 02:39:24,320
Speaker 2: Like he figures it out in ways that I'm not

3628
02:39:24,400 --> 02:39:26,720
Speaker 2: sure we can ever give enough credit to and.

3629
02:39:26,800 --> 02:39:28,879
Speaker 3: See, and they're a perfect example. They're a team that's

3630
02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:31,560
Speaker 3: equipped to win now but also in the future because

3631
02:39:31,560 --> 02:39:34,520
Speaker 3: their defense is pretty much all young dudes. It's all

3632
02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 3: a bunch of young guys who they've drafted over the

3633
02:39:36,320 --> 02:39:38,760
Speaker 3: last two or three seasons, and they got better and

3634
02:39:38,879 --> 02:39:40,080
Speaker 3: better as last year went along.

3635
02:39:40,280 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 2: We all know they were knocking on the door of.

3636
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:44,920
Speaker 3: Beating the Eagles on the road in the snow in

3637
02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:47,240
Speaker 3: the postseason before the Eagles went on to win the

3638
02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:49,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So this guy's the limit for them, not

3639
02:39:49,240 --> 02:39:51,959
Speaker 3: only moving forward, but also obviously this season with Matthew

3640
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:54,440
Speaker 3: Stafford still playing at a high level. So not only

3641
02:39:54,520 --> 02:39:56,240
Speaker 3: for this year are the Rams a team to be

3642
02:39:56,280 --> 02:39:57,760
Speaker 3: reckoned with, but I think that they're going to be

3643
02:39:57,800 --> 02:39:59,960
Speaker 3: a team in the future that people are gonna have

3644
02:39:59,959 --> 02:40:00,720
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on too.

3645
02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and at some point with the Rams,

3646
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:09,840
Speaker 2: particularly they spent years saying FM picks right, and then

3647
02:40:09,879 --> 02:40:12,000
Speaker 2: they went out and made those picks, and they made

3648
02:40:12,040 --> 02:40:15,120
Speaker 2: them so well that they just they've reminded you that

3649
02:40:15,200 --> 02:40:17,200
Speaker 2: they can do what's almost impossible. They can beat you

3650
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:19,480
Speaker 2: a million different ways from a front office standpoint. If

3651
02:40:19,520 --> 02:40:21,240
Speaker 2: you want them to use free agency and go in

3652
02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:23,240
Speaker 2: all in on vets, they can do that. If you

3653
02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:25,680
Speaker 2: want them to just use young guys, they can do that.

3654
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:27,199
Speaker 2: That's a dangerous combination.

3655
02:40:27,720 --> 02:40:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the mark of a great organization, great ownership,

3656
02:40:30,400 --> 02:40:32,920
Speaker 3: and let's need a great general manager. They almost they're

3657
02:40:32,920 --> 02:40:34,920
Speaker 3: almost built like the Dodgers to a certain degree. Yeah,

3658
02:40:34,920 --> 02:40:37,080
Speaker 3: we can outspend you, but we can also get you

3659
02:40:37,120 --> 02:40:39,360
Speaker 3: when it comes to drafting well and having a great

3660
02:40:39,400 --> 02:40:40,200
Speaker 3: infrastructure too.

3661
02:40:40,840 --> 02:40:43,480
Speaker 2: It's also a mark of a great organization when top

3662
02:40:43,520 --> 02:40:45,520
Speaker 2: to bottom everybody seems to be on the same page.

3663
02:40:45,560 --> 02:40:48,240
Speaker 2: Everybody's doing their job efficiently, and everybody seems to be

3664
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:51,000
Speaker 2: seeing the thing the same way, Like you're keeping the

3665
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:53,840
Speaker 2: main thing the main thing, and the Rams consistently are

3666
02:40:53,879 --> 02:40:56,280
Speaker 2: doing that in a way that I'm high on. I'm

3667
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:58,800
Speaker 2: always high on Kevin Figures Figuring. It's been awesome hanging

3668
02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:01,840
Speaker 2: out with you my friendpreciate it. Y'all spend the entire

3669
02:41:01,959 --> 02:41:04,160
Speaker 2: day hanging out with Fox Sports Radio. Thanks for listening

3670
02:41:04,200 --> 02:41:05,880
Speaker 2: to the fellas. Have a great Saturday.