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Speaker 1: Hello, how are you welcome to Movie Mike's movie Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am a movie Mike on Twitter and Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Mike Destro and on this episode, I'm talking all about

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Speaker 1: iconic movie characters who you didn't realize have very little

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Speaker 1: time on screen. Now, these are all very famous movies,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna break down just exactly how many minutes

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Speaker 1: they appear on screen. And I think it will surprise

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Speaker 1: you and you may even feel ripped off that you

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Speaker 1: only had this amount of time with your favorite characters

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Speaker 1: from movies. But there's also a bit of science and

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Speaker 1: theory to it, if you will, so we'll get into

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Speaker 1: that as well. It kind of explains how to make

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Speaker 1: a really great movie, so we'll get into that. We'll

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Speaker 1: also get into how much they are saying they're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay Joaquin Phoenix to make a sequel to The Joker,

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Speaker 1: And I just want to break down not who the

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Speaker 1: best Joker was, but just who had the best laughs.

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Speaker 1: So I will break those down. We'll hear the laughs

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Speaker 1: and get into all about The Joker. And then in

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Speaker 1: the movie review this week, I'm talking about the brand

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Speaker 1: new movie on Netflix called The Devil All the Time,

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Speaker 1: which I was very excited to watch. So I'll get

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Speaker 1: into my full review of that of Core spoiler free

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Speaker 1: because that's what I like to do on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast,

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Speaker 1: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like

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Speaker 1: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so

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Speaker 1: much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking I MTV

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Speaker 1: with glasses from the Nashville Podcast Networks Movie MI Movie Podcast. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk about iconic movie characters with

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Speaker 1: very minimal screen time. And why I thought about this

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Speaker 1: is because I saw a new story about one year

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Speaker 1: where Tom Cruise wasn't the highest paid actor for the year,

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Speaker 1: but he put out Jack Reacher, which made him about

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Speaker 1: fifty three million dollars. And that's a movie where he's

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Speaker 1: on screen for about a hundred and thirteen minutes, So

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Speaker 1: that worked out to about twenty eight point one million

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Speaker 1: dollars per hour. If I could make that much an hour,

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Speaker 1: I would only work one hour every year for the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life. But I am not Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 1: I do not have that luxury of being a huge

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Speaker 1: movie star. At minimum. I am a mediocre movie podcaster.

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Speaker 1: But what I did think about is that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: lengthy screen time for him to be on. And that's

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Speaker 1: because that's a big Hollywood movie. If you go watch

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Speaker 1: a movie with Tom Cruise, you want to see him

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Speaker 1: the entire time. That's not necessarily the case when it

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Speaker 1: comes to other movies, because sometimes in certain movies, less

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Speaker 1: is more when there's some suspense to be created, when

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Speaker 1: there's another store to be told, sometimes showing the thing

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Speaker 1: that it seems the movie is actually about, and getting

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Speaker 1: less screen time from that actually adds more to the movie.

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Speaker 1: So what I want to cover here are instances where

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Speaker 1: the main character actually isn't in the entire movie, and

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Speaker 1: it turns out there and very few of it, And

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Speaker 1: some of these would be kind of surprising to you

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Speaker 1: to think of, Like, Okay, there's been entire fan bases

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Speaker 1: there's been t shirts, posters, people have gotten tattoos of

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Speaker 1: these characters, but they haven't even been on screen a

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Speaker 1: whole lot in the history of these movies. So I'll

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Speaker 1: break down some of the famous movies how long the

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Speaker 1: on the screen. So first of all, let's start out

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Speaker 1: with the original Jurassic Park and how few minutes the

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Speaker 1: actual dinosaurs were in that movie. So you think Jurassic Park, okay,

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Speaker 1: it has to be an entire movie about the dinosaurs, right. Well,

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Speaker 1: with the runtime of two hours and seventeen minutes, the

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Speaker 1: actual dinosaurs are only on screen for twenty minutes, and

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Speaker 1: that is crazy because you get about six minutes of

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Speaker 1: c g I dinosaurs. So some of those dinosaurs you

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Speaker 1: So if you watch some of the behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: me as that I'm doing this when I'm actually like

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Speaker 1: acting out a robotic dinosaur while I'm recording this, But

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Speaker 1: that's how they made those dinosaurs, So at twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: minutes where it's just humans. Now, in this case, it's

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Speaker 1: partially because it's really expensive to make dinosaurs on screen.

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Speaker 1: Not only do they have to create those robotic characters,

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Speaker 1: crazy to think back watching that original movie that you

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Speaker 1: don't really get a whole lot. A lot of it

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Speaker 1: is anticipation, because you know, even the first time you

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Speaker 1: then it also kind of builds anticipation to the very

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Speaker 1: end of the movie where it's all a free for

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Speaker 1: all the final battle and you get to see them

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Speaker 1: in their full glory. I think if you saw the

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Speaker 1: ninosaurs throughout the entire movie you really wouldn't care as much.

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Speaker 1: But just crazy to think one of the biggest movies

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Speaker 1: of the nineties, the main characters are only there for

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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. Let's talk about The Dark Night now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into a thing later about the Joker,

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Speaker 1: but I do want to add him into this list

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Speaker 1: because Heath Ledger as the Joker was a very medacining

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Speaker 1: Heath Ledger. It feels like he really embodied the Joker

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Speaker 1: in this kind of way too, when you don't even

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Speaker 1: recognize him, you just think that Joker exists in this world,

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than I would say the Joakin

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Speaker 1: Phoenix versions, where it's a little more noticeable that you're

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Speaker 1: watching Jakin Phoenix be the Joker because you see his

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Speaker 1: kind of downfall into the character. But with this one

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Speaker 1: in the Dark Night, you're just me really immerged into

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Speaker 1: the depiction that Heath Ledger created. But this movie is

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Speaker 1: two hours and thirty two minutes, but you only get

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Speaker 1: thirty three minutes of the Joker. And why is that important?

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Speaker 1: You think such an important, iconic, memorable performance that one

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Speaker 1: of an Oscar after his death. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's just kind of sprinkled in there

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Speaker 1: got any more Joker in this movie, it would kind

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Speaker 1: of take away from all those important scenes. I just

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Speaker 1: bet that was a very tough thing to do when

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Speaker 1: want to put him more into this movie, but kind

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Speaker 1: of holding back and just having him developed and sprinkling throughout.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really important to why this movie was

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Speaker 1: so successful. And even on the other side of that,

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Speaker 1: I almost feel like you only see Batman in very

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Speaker 1: To go back in time a little bit now to

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Speaker 1: the first Star Wars movie, which is Star Wars Episode four,

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Speaker 1: A New Hope, which happens to be my favorite in

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Speaker 1: the entire Star Wars franchise. This one has a runtime

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Speaker 1: of two hours and five minutes, but Darth Vader, the

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Speaker 1: ultimate villain is only in it for twelve minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's only in about ten percent of the entire movie,

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Speaker 1: But I would say he's probably the most famous Star

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Speaker 1: with The Force Awakens that I saw that one in

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Speaker 1: theaters and was like, Okay, I probably need to go

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Speaker 1: back and rewatch all these movies because I've seen them

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Speaker 1: referencing pretty much everything in pop culture. I just never

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Speaker 1: sat down to watch them, and I was surprised watching

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Speaker 1: them and realizing, isn't Darth in these a little bit more?

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Speaker 1: Anytime you see this movie reference or any kind of

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Speaker 1: who makes my list is one that I when I

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Speaker 1: rewatched the movies, I'm like, where is this guy got

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Speaker 1: of people talk about and I'm like, where does he

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Speaker 1: kick in? And it's Boba Fett and he is an

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Speaker 1: episode five and six. So that's two movies. He's in

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Speaker 1: Empire Strikes Back, which is a runtime of two hours

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Speaker 1: two hours and seventeen minutes, and Boba Fett is only

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Speaker 1: in it for eighteen minutes in both of those movies.

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Speaker 1: So you have this character that kind of has like

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Speaker 1: kind of see him and I would know it's Boba Fett.

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Speaker 1: But I probably couldn't make him out of a line

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Speaker 1: go and research where he came from in his entire origin,

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Speaker 1: but he looked cool, and somehow I just had this

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Speaker 1: Boba Fett, and all of that is just for a

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Speaker 1: So both of those were pretty surprising to me. Another

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Speaker 1: one that was surprising was Beetlejuice. So this is a

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Speaker 1: played by Michael Keaton, one of his just most bizarre

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Speaker 1: kind of breakout roles for him. And it's probably Tim

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a comedy, And I like that it

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Speaker 1: kind of bridges that gap of just being weird. And

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Speaker 1: like the other movies we've been talking about, you think

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Speaker 1: Beetle Juice would be in a lot more, especially if

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Speaker 1: his name is in the title of the movie. But

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Speaker 1: hour and a half, but it takes him seventy five

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a case where a character works

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Speaker 1: really well and little bursts because I think if you

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Speaker 1: Michael Keaton is just so kind of goofy but also

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Speaker 1: kind of being the comic relief in this movie and

434
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Speaker 1: a movie that's almost has a plot line of being

435
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: too dark for a kid's movie, because if you turn

436
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: this into a straight drama without to Mon and Boomba,

437
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: it would just straight up being a movie about somebody's

438
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: dad getting murdered and then going back to kill their uncles.

439
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: So without to Mote and Boomba, thinking a kuna matata.

440
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 1: That's really all the Lion King is. And I know

441
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: they put out Lion King one and a half, which

442
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: tells the Lion King story from their point of view,

443
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: But when you see that movie, you almost realize that

444
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: having too much to mote and boomba isn't really what

445
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: you want. It's like too much of the comedy zany

446
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: part that you realize they're almost more impactful to have

447
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: less of them. Another example is the Minions in the

448
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: first Despicable Me movie, because they're kind of the breakout

449
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: star of the Despicable Mean movies, like they're the face

450
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: of those movies. But really in those movies, they're just

451
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: in the background. They're just doing weird things that make

452
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: us laugh, but we see the movie. But when they

453
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: came out with the actual Minions movie, it was kind

454
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Speaker 1: of like eating a bowl of Lucky Charms with all marshmallows.

455
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: You think that's what you want, but when you eat it,

456
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, this is so much sugar and

457
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: this is so hard to eat, Like it's too much

458
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: sweet to just watch. The Minions. Don't get me wrong,

459
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: While they are funny and cute and say ridiculous things

460
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Speaker 1: that make us laugh. Having a movie entirely about the

461
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: minions was a bit like jumping the shark. So there

462
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: you go. There's a look into some iconic movie characters

463
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: in the actual time they actually appear on screen. I

464
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: did mention the Joker in that list, and I do

465
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about him more because there may be

466
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Speaker 1: a possibility for a Joker's sequel with Joaquin Phoenix, and

467
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: I want to look at that deal and also talk

468
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: about who had the best Joker laugh. So we'll do

469
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: that next. Al Right, So I want to take a

470
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Speaker 1: minute and talk about the Joker because I saw last

471
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Speaker 1: week that it's reported that Joaquin Phoenix has been offered

472
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars to make not one, but two sequels

473
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Speaker 1: to The Joker. Now, what's surprising to me is that

474
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: they really haven't really announced that they're making sequel, and

475
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: they still have to get a bunch of people on board.

476
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: So not only do they what King Phoenix, they want

477
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: the director Todd Phillips and the producer Bradley Cooper, yes,

478
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: the Bradley Cooper to all be a part of the sequels,

479
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: to have the same team aboard and kind of have

480
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: the same impact that the first one did, because if

481
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: you take away any of those players in this you

482
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: might not get the same result. Now, I don't think

483
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: this movie needs a sequel, but if it came out,

484
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: I would watch it because I just love the first

485
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: one how it kind of exists as its own little

486
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 1: piece and slice into the Joker. That's it. That's all

487
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: you need in this movie, That's all you need to

488
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of discover. They kind of lend themselves to different

489
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: ways they could go, and they could connect them with

490
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: the other DC movies, but I just think this one

491
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: should stand alone, like don't mess with something that was

492
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: so great and one of my favorite movies of last year,

493
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Speaker 1: Like my favorite movie of last year was this, And

494
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: I think it's because what Phoenix had an entire movie

495
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: to develop the character, so you see him go from

496
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: being this odd, strange character too diving into full insanity

497
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: and straight up being out of his mind. Now I

498
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: liked his performance more than I did Heath Ledger. Now,

499
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't argue with the fact of how iconic that

500
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: role was and how important that was to changing the

501
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: way comic book movies are made. But like I was

502
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, he is only in thirty three minutes

503
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: of that movie, he's not the main character, and that

504
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: if we had an entire Heath Ledger movie, now, that

505
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: would be insane. So I even with this offer of

506
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: him getting tons of money, which fifty million dollars is

507
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: a lot to do two movies, I'd say the top

508
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: A list actors make about twenty million dollars per movie,

509
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: so this would be on the higher end of the

510
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: pay scale, And if they're offering him fifty million, there's

511
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: no doubt that they would offer him more if he

512
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: declined it. But I also don't think that the director,

513
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: Todd Phil it's even open to doing more. He was like,

514
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: you know what we did the one. I don't really

515
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: see this developing into a whole franchise. But in Hollywood,

516
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: you get one hit movie and they want a million

517
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: hit movies. So I don't think this is a franchise

518
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: that should be milked out for all that it's worth.

519
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: I think you keep it at one. But I just

520
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: think there's just so much money to be made, and

521
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: you can't not toy with that fact because they only

522
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: spent sixty million and ended up making a billion, so

523
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good margin to make some more money.

524
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: And I know we could argue on here for a

525
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: long time of who had the best Joker performance, and

526
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: that's not what I want to talk about today. I

527
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: just want to talk about who had the best Joker laugh?

528
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the thing. The Joker is known

529
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: for his crazy, over the top wardrobe, but it's really

530
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: that laugh that kind of gets you and if the

531
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: actor can do it perfectly, well, it's bone chilling. So

532
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: for this list, I threw the question up on Twitter

533
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: and asked just who has the best Joker laugh? And

534
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: I pulled the four biggest actors who have portrayed the

535
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Joker on the big screen. So before we get to

536
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: the results, let's just see our nominees in this category.

537
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Coming up from the movie The Joker, you have Joaquin Phoenix,

538
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: and now the second choice considered here, you have Heath

539
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: Ledger in The Dark Night as the Joker. And then

540
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: because he thought he was gonna be a bigger deal

541
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: than he actually was in a movie that ended up

542
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: being kind of bad, I gotta throw in Jared Leto

543
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: in The Suicide Squad. And then you got the O G.

544
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson back in the original Batman and here's his

545
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: memorable laugh. So I put that question up. I tallied

546
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: up the votes, and I was a bit surprised. I

547
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: kind of had an idea who you guys would rank

548
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: is number one. I just didn't know he was gonna

549
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: win by this much. But coming in in the last

550
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: place at number four with only six percent of the

551
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: vote was Jared Leto, which when they made Jared Letto's

552
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: Joker costume and his look for this movie, they kind

553
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: of went totally different, like they wanted him to be

554
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: kind of, I guess, an alternative looking Joker or just

555
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: something that was so kind of more comic, bookie and weird.

556
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think people liked it with like all

557
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: the tattooed ha has and the grill, like, I just

558
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: don't think it really worked. And he was also only

559
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: in the movie for a very brief amount of time,

560
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: really added nothing to it. But I thought he did

561
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: have at least a cool laugh. But yeah, came in

562
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: at fourth place. Then coming in at third was Joaquin

563
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: Phoenix from The Joker. Now I really liked wa Kaine

564
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Phoenix is laughing this. I just thought it was so

565
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: maniacal and you got this feeling of him having like

566
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: real serious mental problems that weren't funny. And also what

567
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: I looked about it is how he could turn it

568
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: off and turn it on. So there's that scene where

569
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: he's like walking out and he's laughing like crazy, but

570
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: then he just immediately jumps back into being normal and

571
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: buttoning up his shirt. But that was only enough to

572
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: get him third place. Coming in at number two was

573
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson from the original Batman. Now, it's kind of

574
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: weird to go back and watch Jack Nicholson because while

575
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: he does do a really great job as the Joker,

576
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: and he kind of laid the groundwork for everybody else,

577
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: he likes set the bar for the Joker, it's still

578
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: very much Jack Nicholson, and hearing him laugh almost has

579
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: a more comedic field than it does the other Jokers.

580
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: It's less serious and creepy, but iconic nonetheless. And then

581
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: coming in at number one with a surprising sixty one

582
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: per cent of the entire boat, so Jack Nicholson had twenty,

583
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: but straight up sweeping the pole was Heath Ledger. Now,

584
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: not only did Heath Ledger get down to laugh perfectly,

585
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: I thought, it's more so the mannerisms and the weird lips,

586
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Max and all those kind of things that he added

587
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: to the character is why I think it was just

588
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: such a powerful, a memorable performance, Like he really made

589
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: the Joker a presence and a kind of larger than

590
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: live character to where you forget that this is somebody

591
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: acting and portraying somebody on screen. You just think that

592
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: in some world this person exists. So that's how you

593
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: guys voted. You think Heath Ledger has the best Joker laugh.

594
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: And I know there have been other people who have

595
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: played the Joker in other kind of variations, but I

596
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: just thought those were like the core. For maybe ten

597
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: years down the line will have an entirely different Joker

598
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: to add to the list. But there you go. All right. Now,

599
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the brand new Netflix movie

600
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: The Devil. All the time I was excited to see

601
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: this one. I didn't want to know a whole lot

602
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: about the plot going into it because I kind of

603
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be surprised, and I was so I knew

604
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a darker side of Tom Holland

605
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to see Robert Pattinson in it. And there's

606
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: a lot of cool things that happened in this movie.

607
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Also a lot of disturbing things that happened in this movie,

608
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: So I'll get into my spoiler free review, but first

609
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: here's just a little bit of the Devil all the

610
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: time time First Center did something, it's called delusion. I

611
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: believe that is untrue. It is out delusion the lead

612
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: us to see delusions. So there's a lot to unpack

613
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: on this movie, So let's just start with the cast.

614
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: First of all, you have Tom Holland, who is really

615
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: just known right now for playing Spider Man, and I

616
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: thought the main thing for me watching this movie was

617
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna be can I see him as anything other than that?

618
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Because in Spider Man, the reason he works so well

619
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: is because he had a fresh take on it to

620
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: where he's like excited to be a part of the Avengers.

621
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: He's very much a teenager and like everything's brand new

622
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: to him. He has a kind of bubbly kids like

623
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: personality that I think works for Spider Man. But it's

624
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: also like could that translate into other deeper, darker roles,

625
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: which will it into later of how he did an

626
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: this one, But that was the main thing I was

627
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: looking for in this one. And then you have Robert Pattinson,

628
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: who is quietly becoming one of my favorite actors right

629
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: now because all the recent movies he's been in that

630
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: are more dramatic roles, I've really just wanted to see

631
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: to see how he takes them on. And I'm rarely

632
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: disappointed with the Robert Pattinson performance. I'm a little upset

633
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to see Tenant. I want to

634
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: see that. But everything I've seen him in it's like, okay,

635
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Like he's actually a really great actor with a very

636
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: great range that I don't think he gets enough credit for.

637
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's still that people hold him to

638
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: being Edward from Twilight, which I think he's way far

639
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: from that. Like the first Twilight came out in two

640
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, He's moved on so much more from

641
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: there that I think he really deserves a lot of credits.

642
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: So you got have him in here, you'll sell Bill

643
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: scars Guard who maybe you might not recognize his face,

644
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: And I didn't really put it together at the very

645
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: beginning either, And once I looked at out, I was like, oh, wait,

646
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: that's where I know him from. He plays Pennywise, the

647
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Clown and the IT movies and which is such a

648
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Speaker 1: crazy role to play, and seeing him be a normal

649
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: person was pretty cool in this too, because he's known

650
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Speaker 1: for kind of having those crazy, sick like facial features

651
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Speaker 1: that goes along with it, and I can only imagine

652
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Speaker 1: the depths of your brain you have to go into

653
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Speaker 1: play a character like that. It was cool to have

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Speaker 1: him in just a normal role I say normally, even

655
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Speaker 1: though he does some pretty crazy things in this movie too.

656
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Speaker 1: And then you also have Sebastian stand who plays Bucky

657
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Speaker 1: in the Captain America and the Avengers movies. So basically

658
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Speaker 1: in this movie you have the New Batman, Spider Man,

659
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Speaker 1: and Bucky from the Avengers altogether in one but they

660
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Speaker 1: are playing totally different characters outside of anything you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen them in before. I really liked Sebastian Stands character

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Speaker 1: in this movie. So let's talk about what the movie

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Speaker 1: was about. So it's said in like a small town

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Speaker 1: in like southern Ohio or like West Virginia. It kind

665
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Speaker 1: of starts off with this, and it really just follows

666
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Speaker 1: these kind of bizarre characters and how all their stories

667
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Speaker 1: kind of intertwined. And what I what's interested in the

668
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Speaker 1: beginning is it starts with like thirty minutes of a

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Speaker 1: totally different story as Tom Holland as a kid and

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Speaker 1: mainly follows the story of his dad, who was a

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Speaker 1: soldier in World War Two, and then the movie moves

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Speaker 1: into the sixties, but it starts out with him getting

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Speaker 1: out of the army and then going on to start

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Speaker 1: a family and that's kind of where all the kind

675
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Speaker 1: of crazy, sad stuff happened. So it's really a movie

676
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Speaker 1: about all of the characters trying to protect their loved ones,

677
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Speaker 1: and there's this balance of good and evil and this,

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Speaker 1: you know, this kind of line of religion throughout the

679
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Speaker 1: entire movie, intertwined with a bunch of murder and death

680
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Speaker 1: and all these really sad things. So there's a lot

681
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Speaker 1: to unpack on this one. It's very dark, and I

682
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Speaker 1: gotta admit that by the title of the movie, I

683
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Speaker 1: thought there was gonna be some kind of like horror

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Speaker 1: element to it. I thought maybe there'd be like some

685
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Speaker 1: possession or some kind of demons just from the title

686
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Speaker 1: of it. But it's really people battling these evil forces

687
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Speaker 1: inside of them. And like I said, they're trying to

688
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Speaker 1: protect the people in their life, but they're having to

689
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Speaker 1: do it with realizing what is a good thing and

690
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Speaker 1: what is a bad thing when it comes to protecting

691
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Speaker 1: those around you. Like Tom Holland's characters saw some crazy

692
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Speaker 1: things and experience some very crazy trauma as a child

693
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Speaker 1: in this movie, and that kind of sets up the

694
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Speaker 1: entire movie of how he is and how he reacts

695
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Speaker 1: to his loved ones and protecting those people around him,

696
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Speaker 1: and he becomes traumatized by what happens to his dad

697
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Speaker 1: and also by all costs is going to do what

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Speaker 1: he can to protect his family here. And what I

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Speaker 1: liked about Tom Holland's character is this he has to

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Speaker 1: fight this line of he's seeing as the good guy

701
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Speaker 1: in this movie, but he does some things that are

702
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Speaker 1: kind of questionable, like you wouldn't see him really as

703
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Speaker 1: like your typical good guy, but you're still rooting for

704
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Speaker 1: him throughout the entire movie. So I don't want to

705
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Speaker 1: give away all the plot points because I think it

706
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Speaker 1: really kind of comes together and it's kind of a

707
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Speaker 1: more of a mystery than anything to watch. So giving

708
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: away specific plot points through the movie I think would

709
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Speaker 1: ruin it for you. But I just want to talk

710
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Speaker 1: about some of the themes that throughout the movie that

711
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Speaker 1: it kind of tackled in a unique way, and I

712
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Speaker 1: saw a lot of people kind of saying that this

713
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Speaker 1: movie was a little bit of Oscar Babe, but I

714
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Speaker 1: didn't really get that from from the movie. Like I know,

715
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Speaker 1: you have like this really stacked cast and they're doing

716
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Speaker 1: like maybe really high level performances, But there was nothing

717
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: about this that felt forced or like they were just

718
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Speaker 1: going after like, Okay, we're gonna make a movie and

719
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Speaker 1: get it automatically nominated for an Oscar. I don't think

720
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Speaker 1: that's what they were going for here. I think it's

721
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Speaker 1: more so the themes they decided to tackle, which will

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Speaker 1: stand apart from any other movie that it maybe up

723
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Speaker 1: against if it does get nominated, because it tackles religion, sex,

724
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Speaker 1: and death and that how all of those go back

725
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Speaker 1: to good and evil. So it's a really unique story

726
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Speaker 1: that I wasn't expecting. It was also very hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: There's some moments where it's like, oh, this is kind

728
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Speaker 1: of making my stomach turn a little bit. And there's

729
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Speaker 1: also a lot of anticipatient and dread and just worrying

730
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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen next. But there's some tough

731
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Speaker 1: images there and it's not, like I said, not necessarily

732
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Speaker 1: a horror movie, but very violent, very kind of dark

733
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Speaker 1: imagery and dark performances. But in that it was also

734
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Speaker 1: just refreshing to see something like this right now. It's

735
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Speaker 1: also a little bit of a time commitment at over

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Speaker 1: two hours, which I thought ended up being fine. I

737
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: actually think this one needs that amount of time to

738
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: take kind of course throughout the entire movie. Um, it

739
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: does start out a little slow, like I said, like

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Speaker 1: those first thirty minutes are kind of just building the

741
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Speaker 1: story of what comes to fruition later in the movie,

742
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Speaker 1: but I thought that was important. I wouldn't have taken

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Speaker 1: that out. Um. The thing that did kind of stand

744
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: out was Robert Pattinson's performance because he plays a preacher

745
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: in the movie who comes to town and he has

746
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Speaker 1: a Southern accent. So Robert Pattinson's a British actor if

747
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: he didn't know, and in this movie he speaks with

748
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: the Southern draw actually saw that. Robert Pattinson didn't reveal

749
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: like his Southern accent to the director until he was

750
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Speaker 1: actually on set and performing a scene like that's what

751
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: he decided to show them what he'd come up with,

752
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: because they wanted him to take like speech lessons and

753
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: find a way to get a southern accent that worked

754
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: in the movie, but he was like, I don't want

755
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm gonna do this on my own

756
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: and kind of figure it out. And when they heard

757
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: his voice, all I said was the first time they

758
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: heard it, and it's what they ended up using in

759
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: the movie. It was a little weird, a little distracting

760
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: at times, and I saw some people commenting about it

761
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: online as well. So I think in the end it

762
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Speaker 1: works because he's a great actor, but maybe he could

763
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Speaker 1: have dialed it in a little bit more. But here's

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Speaker 1: an example of him speaking in the movie in a

765
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Speaker 1: Southern accent. I was gonna take care of everything. I

766
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take the blame. It was a ruined me mane.

767
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I cannot understand that. K. Yeah, so an interesting take

768
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: on that to say the least. But overall I ended

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Speaker 1: up really liking this movie, even though at times it

770
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: was hard to watch. There was just so much to

771
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: be said about watching someone go through despair and watching

772
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: someone suffer loss, and having all those teams come together

773
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: and make you question things and how this movie was

774
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: put together in piece together like a mystery that you're

775
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: wanting to follow along and figure out, how is this

776
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: all gonna end? How is this going to come together?

777
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Like what is the goal here? I thought it was

778
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Speaker 1: satisfying when it came to the end, So that was

779
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: really important because there was so much build up, in

780
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: so much kind of different layers to this movie that

781
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: if it didn't pay off in the end, I would

782
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: be like, this was terrible. But it really kind of

783
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: played that line. And I think my biggest takeaway from

784
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: everything about this movie was that Tom Holland has it

785
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Speaker 1: as being a really great dramatic actor, like and no

786
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: point was I questioning whether or not like he could

787
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: do the dramatic stuff, even like the the fight scenes

788
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: and the more violent stuff, Like I was rooting for

789
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: him and I wanted to see more of him in

790
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: this kind of role. So I hope he kind of still,

791
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, sticks around with the Marvel universe in play

792
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Spider Man throughout how many movies they want to make

793
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: with that. But I think it would be easy for

794
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: him to hop into doing more dramatic roles on the

795
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: side and coming out with more movies like this, Like

796
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: I would watch them more often and my other takeaway was, Yeah,

797
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Speaker 1: I think Robert Pattinson is becoming one of my go

798
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: to actors to where I will probably watch any movie

799
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: that he puts out right now, Like I'm so kind

800
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: of zonedn't know what he's doing, and I find him

801
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: so interesting and compelling on screen that I'm gonna kind

802
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: of commit myself to consider and putting him in like

803
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: my top five actors of the last ten years, and

804
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: maybe I'll work on that list because I just think

805
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: he's up there. I think he has the chops to

806
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: take on different roles like this, and you know, he

807
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: hasn't really done like a big major Hollywood blockbuster like

808
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: a Twilight again, but he doesn't really need to anymore.

809
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: He can kind of dive into playing these more unique characters.

810
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Speaker 1: So all in all, I would give it four out

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Speaker 1: of five Crucifixes. You do have to prepare yourself a

812
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: little bit of you know, expecting to see some dark images.

813
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: It's a little dark and twisted and heavy. So if

814
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: you're not ready for that kind of movie, maybe not

815
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: the one for you. But if you're into like mystery

816
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: suspense in a little bit of horror, I think you'll

817
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: actually enjoy this movie, all right, And that's the episode

818
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Speaker 1: for this week. But before I hop out of here,

819
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Speaker 1: I gotta give my shout out. I do it every

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Speaker 1: single week to one of you guys are listening who

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Speaker 1: tweets me or sends me a message on Instagram, So

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Speaker 1: that's all you have to do, or you can tag

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Speaker 1: listening to this week's episode or in the episode for

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Speaker 1: that matter. I'll repost those and then pick somebody to

826
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Speaker 1: shout out each week. But this week I got a

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Speaker 1: shout out to Andrew Mullen. He's at a w M

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Speaker 1: Underscore seventeen on Twitter. And Andrew, I you see over

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Speaker 1: there all the time, tweeting and replying, interacting with the podcast,

830
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Speaker 1: and listening every single Monday. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: longest listeners of this podcast. So I really appreciate that. Thanks. Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to give you a shout out here. And

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Speaker 1: if you find yourself board and looking for something else

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Speaker 1: to listen to, we actually have a bunch of podcasts

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Speaker 1: here on the Nashville Podcast Network that you can go

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Speaker 1: check out and listen to. And we actually just launched

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Shore. The first episode is available now wherever you're

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Shore. She's somebody who I followed on Twitter for

841
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Speaker 1: follow because she's just so funny, always has a unique

843
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Speaker 1: take on things. She's also a country artist, and we're

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Speaker 1: really excited to have her part of the network. So

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Speaker 1: you guys have a good week. I will talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys next time here and until then later m hmm.