WEBVTT - Trump's Tariffs: Everything You Need to Know

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are the stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen, the Global Sella follows the announcement that Wall Street

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<v Speaker 3>and the world had been waiting for four weeks. President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is raising tariffs around the world on a day

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<v Speaker 3>he is dubbed Liberation Day for America.

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<v Speaker 4>April second, twenty twenty five will forever be remembered as

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<v Speaker 4>today American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny was reclaimed,

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<v Speaker 4>and the day that we began to make America wealthy again.

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<v Speaker 3>In remarks from the White House Rose Garden heard here

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<v Speaker 3>on Bloomberg, the President announced at least a ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>tariff on all exporters to the US. About sixty nations

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<v Speaker 3>will see even higher duties. The biggest target of all

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<v Speaker 3>is China. The President says, Beijing charges the US an

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<v Speaker 3>effective sixty seven percent rate.

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<v Speaker 4>So sixty seven percent, so we're going to be charging

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<v Speaker 4>a discounted reciprocal tariff of thirty four percent.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, they charge us we judge m chuge mls.

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<v Speaker 4>So how could anybody be upset?

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump is also slapping higher duties on the European Union, Japan, Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 3>and more. All together, Bloomberg Economics estimates the effective tax

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<v Speaker 3>rate on more than three trillion dollars in imported goods

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<v Speaker 3>could rise to about twenty three percent. That is the

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<v Speaker 3>highest in more than a century.

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<v Speaker 2>Well iven, President Trump's tariffs have drawn a sharp reaction

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<v Speaker 2>on Capitol Hill. House Minority Leader Hankem Jeffries spoke out

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<v Speaker 2>even before the president's announcement.

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<v Speaker 6>This is not liberation Day, It's recession day.

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<v Speaker 7>In the United States of America. That's what the Trump

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<v Speaker 7>tariffs are going to do, crash the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>How's Minority Leader Hankem Jeffries. Republicans are mostly standing behind

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<v Speaker 2>the president. Ashley Davis is a GEOP. He's strategist and

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<v Speaker 2>partner at S three Group.

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<v Speaker 8>He's ran on this for the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Really is that he needs to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 2>other countries are paying what they deserve Republicans strategist Ashley Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>But not every Republican is on board. Kentucky Senator Ran

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<v Speaker 2>Paul says tariffs are just another tax on Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans used to be in Conservatives and particularly used to

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<v Speaker 4>be against new taxes. I don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be good for us politically, but it's not good for

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<v Speaker 4>the country either.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Ran Paul and three other Republicans joined with Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>on a bill opposing President Trump's tariffs on Canada. The

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<v Speaker 2>bill is not likely to pass in the House.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Karen, President Trump's historic action risks inducing a worldwide

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<v Speaker 3>trade war marked by tit for tax strikes. We spoke

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<v Speaker 3>with Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who urged other countries not

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<v Speaker 3>to fight back.

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<v Speaker 9>I would advise none of the countries to panic. I

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<v Speaker 9>wouldn't try to retaliate because as long as you don't retaliate,

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<v Speaker 9>this is the high end of the number, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think there could have certainty that this is the number

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<v Speaker 9>barring retaliation.

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<v Speaker 3>Treasury Secretary Scott Besson went on to leave the door

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<v Speaker 3>open to negotiations, telling Bloomberg quote, We'll see with regard

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<v Speaker 3>to further talks. You can hear the full interview with

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Besant on the Bloomberg Talks podcast and watch it

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<v Speaker 3>on the Bloomberg podcast page on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Nathan, let's get the reaction from other countries around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Our first stop brings US to Asia, where

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<v Speaker 2>China has been the biggest target of Trump tariffs, and

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg deal Desis joins US from Hong Kong with more Jill.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, well, I think it's a lot to really digest

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<v Speaker 8>here out of Asia. On the one hand, you do

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<v Speaker 8>see those really high tariffs on China. This thirty four

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<v Speaker 8>percent increase that Trump is now putting on China. If

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<v Speaker 8>you were to take that into tality with all of

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<v Speaker 8>the other levees that Trump has put on China that

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<v Speaker 8>the US has put on China over the last several

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<v Speaker 8>months years, you're looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of

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<v Speaker 8>the average US tariff on Chinese goods being at least

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<v Speaker 8>sixty five percent according to some economists. Bloomberg Economics estimates

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<v Speaker 8>that as a result, that could lead to a one

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<v Speaker 8>to two percentage point loss to growth in China. So

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<v Speaker 8>certainly a big metric there that you're really looking at.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course, we haven't really heard from China yet what

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<v Speaker 8>their definitive actions will be to counter these tariffs. The

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<v Speaker 8>Ministry of Foreign Affairs has said that there are going

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<v Speaker 8>to be measures coming, we're just waiting to see them.

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<v Speaker 8>But I would draw your attention, Karen too, elsewhere in

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<v Speaker 8>Asia where you're also seeing incredibly high rates and likely

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<v Speaker 8>even you know, higher economic shocks. Vietnam, for example, they

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<v Speaker 8>were hit with a forty six percent tariff in this

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<v Speaker 8>latest round. I mean, this is a country that you

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<v Speaker 8>know is incredibly export dependent. They're among the world's most

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<v Speaker 8>trade dependent nations. Or exports were equivalent to nearly ninety

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<v Speaker 8>percent of economic output. I think that's why you're seeing

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<v Speaker 8>such a big market reaction in that particular country today. So,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, just a couple of examples there, but obviously

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<v Speaker 8>all across Asia, we're seeing a lot of different economic shocks,

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<v Speaker 8>just as nations respond to these tariffs that just been announced.

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<v Speaker 3>Jill desis with the reaction from Hong Kong. Jill, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let's head to Europe get the reaction there. Bloomberg Daybreak,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a banker. Caroline Hepger is in London with the latest.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Caroline, good morning, Nathan and Karen.

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<v Speaker 10>President Trump called the EU pathetic again and that the

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<v Speaker 10>block rips off the US, as he imposed twenty percent

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<v Speaker 10>tariffs on EU goods exported to America. The EU argues

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<v Speaker 10>that America exports plenty of its services to the block

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<v Speaker 10>and that it is the biggest single market in the

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<v Speaker 10>world now. EU trade ministers are due to meet on

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<v Speaker 10>Monday to discuss their response. Meanwhile, in the early hours

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<v Speaker 10>this morning, Commissioned President as to Leavondeline warned that US

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<v Speaker 10>actions would deal a blow to the global economy, and

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<v Speaker 10>she urged further negotiations.

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<v Speaker 11>We have always been ready to negotiate with the United

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<v Speaker 11>States to remove the remaining barriers to transatlantic trade. At

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<v Speaker 11>the same time, we are prepared to respond. We are

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<v Speaker 11>already finalizing the first package of countermeasures in response to

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<v Speaker 11>tariff's on steel, and we're now preparing for further countermeasures

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<v Speaker 11>to protect our interests and our businesses.

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<v Speaker 10>If negotiations fails, Vonderline speaking there the tariffs could wipe

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<v Speaker 10>out the growth forecast by the ECB for this year

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<v Speaker 10>and in twenty twenty six. Markets now see another rate

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<v Speaker 10>cut in April as likely. Bloomberg Economics sees the tariffs

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<v Speaker 10>cutting EU goods exports to the US by half in

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<v Speaker 10>the medium term. By comparison, here in the UK, we

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<v Speaker 10>were dealt with a bit more leniently, a ten percent tariff.

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<v Speaker 10>Some including business lobby see it as a benefit from

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<v Speaker 10>Prime Minister Keir Starmer's pragmatic approach to the White House.

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<v Speaker 10>The UK Trade Secretary Jonathan Reynolds has told Bloomberg just

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<v Speaker 10>this morning that Britain is still confident that tariffs will

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<v Speaker 10>come off, and yet the US is inflicting pain on

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<v Speaker 10>some of its closest allies. All told, it's more than

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<v Speaker 10>just an economic shock.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Caroline, thank you well early Trump to targets

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<v Speaker 2>hitded On in Mexico escaped the new round of tariff announcements.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke with Ontario Premier Doug Ford.

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<v Speaker 5>I would highly recommend to the Prime Minister not the

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<v Speaker 5>retaliate and let's carry on a strong relationship. Let's build

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<v Speaker 5>the aim can fortress American Canadian fortress around both countries

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<v Speaker 5>and be the wealthiestmans, prosperous, safest two countries in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Ontario Premier Doug Ford, speaking of the Bloomberg's Balance of power.

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<v Speaker 2>While no new tariffs were announced to other levies Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has already imposed on Canadian and Mexican goods remain intact.

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<v Speaker 3>And Karen Well stocks are selling off around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>The US has been the hardest hit so far. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>continue our coverage now with Bloomberg's John Tucker.

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<v Speaker 12>John, all right, Nathan, Let's do the biggest losers in

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<v Speaker 12>the US. These are the companies most exposed in that

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<v Speaker 12>source a lot of their products from Asia, such as

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<v Speaker 12>Apple and some of its magnificent seven cohorts of the

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<v Speaker 12>new tariffs will reach thirty four percent for China. Apple

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<v Speaker 12>still produces the mudjority of its US OL devices in

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<v Speaker 12>Chinese factories. India, where Apple's increasingly building iPhones and air pods,

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<v Speaker 12>that's getting a twenty six percent TEARFF. And then there's Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 12>where the company now makes air pods, iPads, Apple watches,

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<v Speaker 12>and max that'll be hit with a forty six percent tax.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 12>Apple shares this morning in the pre market down close

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<v Speaker 12>to seven percent. Then there's in Vidia. In Vidia the

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<v Speaker 12>most actively traded pre market. It relies on China for

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<v Speaker 12>AI Chip sales of those shares right now down three

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<v Speaker 12>point three percent. Let's move on to the world's largest

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<v Speaker 12>footwear and apparel companies also facing a shock to their

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<v Speaker 12>supply chains. Nike makes many of its sneakers in Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 12>and Nike shares pre market they are down eight point

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<v Speaker 12>four percent. Lululemon Athletico, which makes forty percent of its

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<v Speaker 12>products in Vietnam seventeen percent in Cambodia, tumbled almost ten

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<v Speaker 12>percent in late trading. Shares of Abercrombie and Fitch, they

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<v Speaker 12>get thirty five percent of their merchandise from Vietnam A

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<v Speaker 12>fell seven point seven percent. And then Gap, which buys

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<v Speaker 12>twenty seven percent of its goods from Vietnamese factories at

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<v Speaker 12>nineteen percent from Indonesia. That's slid about eleven percent. You

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<v Speaker 12>know you yor income, John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, John, thank you well. Shortly after midnight, US

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<v Speaker 2>auto import tariffs went into effect. Meanwhile, one industry was

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<v Speaker 2>spared for now, and Bloomberg Lisa Matteo joins us with

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<v Speaker 2>the very latest Lisa.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey there, Karen.

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<v Speaker 14>So let's start with the most recent chain, the twenty

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<v Speaker 14>five percent tariff on US auto imports. Now, it's expected

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<v Speaker 14>to increase costs and disrupt industry supply chains. But what's

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<v Speaker 14>more certain auto parts will also be hit with a

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<v Speaker 14>similar level no later than May third. And this morning

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<v Speaker 14>you already have Volkswagen already announcing it plans to add

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<v Speaker 14>import fees to the sticker prices of its vehicles that

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<v Speaker 14>are shipped into the US. Now, Volkswagen shares down about

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<v Speaker 14>half a percent. In Germany, you have Ford off about

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<v Speaker 14>half a percent, General Motors down one percent, Tesla is

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<v Speaker 14>lower by three percent. Chrysler Parents still land. It was

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<v Speaker 14>down nearly two percent yesterday. This morning it's up about

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<v Speaker 14>three tens of percent before the belt. The only good

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<v Speaker 14>news is at imported cards and parts, will they escape

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<v Speaker 14>the so called reciprocal tariffs? And speaking of being spared,

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<v Speaker 14>you have the pharmaceutical sector and won this reprieve from

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<v Speaker 14>sweeping tariffs. But here's the thing, it may not last long.

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<v Speaker 14>Sources saying the White House plans to launch an investigation

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<v Speaker 14>into the drug industry other sectors, and that includes semiconductors

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<v Speaker 14>and potentially critical minerals, and that could lead to tariffs

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<v Speaker 14>under the Trade Expansion Act. Now, if we take a

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<v Speaker 14>look at chairs A Pfizer, they're down about two tens

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<v Speaker 14>of percent. Eli Lilly off about two percent. Lisa Matteo, Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio, Lisa, thank you all. In all, it is an

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive suite of tariffs from President Trump, and it will

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<v Speaker 3>significantly complicate the federal reserves job as it struggles to

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<v Speaker 3>question inflation and avoid an economic downturn. This morning, Morgan

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<v Speaker 3>Stanley pushed back. It's called for the next FED rate

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<v Speaker 3>cut to next year. The firm's analysts cite inflation risks

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<v Speaker 3>arising from tariffs. FED Governor Adriana Kougler says it's appropriate

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<v Speaker 3>to keep in restraints unchanged until upside risks to inflation abate.

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<v Speaker 15>I will support maintaining the current policy BRAID for as

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<v Speaker 15>long as this outside grace to inflation continue, while economic

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<v Speaker 15>activity unemployment remain.

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<v Speaker 3>The state now, it was FED Governor Adriana Coogler. The

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<v Speaker 3>Fed's next meeting May seventh.

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<v Speaker 10>Time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for look at some of the other stories making

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<v Speaker 2>news in New York and around the world, and for

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<v Speaker 2>that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, Karen. Reaction continues to come in after a

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<v Speaker 7>federal judge dismissed corruption charges against New York Mayor Eric

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<v Speaker 7>Adams but criticized the Trump administration's move to drop the case.

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<v Speaker 7>Judge Dale Hoe rejected the government's bid to leave the

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<v Speaker 7>door open for refining the case, citing the unavoidable perception

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<v Speaker 7>that the mayor's freedom depends on his ability to carry

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<v Speaker 7>out the administration's agenda. Mayor Adams, in a brief statement

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<v Speaker 7>outside Gracie Mansion in Manhattan, maintained his innocence.

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<v Speaker 6>Today finally marks the end of this chapter.

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<v Speaker 7>The dismissal comes less than three months before the June

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<v Speaker 7>twenty fourth Democratic primary election in the New York City

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<v Speaker 7>mayoral race, in which Adams is a candidate. With former

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<v Speaker 7>New York Governor Andrew Cuomo already in the mayoral race,

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<v Speaker 7>political analyst Hank Shinkoff says the mayor now has to

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<v Speaker 7>decide if he wants to run as an independent or

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<v Speaker 7>on another party.

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor Adams is a real shot to be reelected, and

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<v Speaker 4>it means this is the worst day that Andrew Cuomo

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<v Speaker 4>has had, probably since he was forced to leave office.

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<v Speaker 7>President Trump, who has claimed that his own criminal cases

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<v Speaker 7>were political, Vendetta's express sympathy for the mayor. The death

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<v Speaker 7>toll from the massive earthquake that hit me and May

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<v Speaker 7>nearly a week ago rose to almost thirty one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>as more bodies were found by search and rescue teams.

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<v Speaker 7>The military led to government said more than forty seven

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<v Speaker 7>hundred have been injured in more than three hundred forty

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<v Speaker 7>are still missing. Last Friday, seven point seven magnitude earthquake

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<v Speaker 7>Bloomberg Meeting Religius Craig Allen has the latest, and.

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<v Speaker 16>There will be additional showers and thunderstorms. The ingredients are

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<v Speaker 16>in other words, there could be over the length of

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<v Speaker 16>a day or two, there could be as much as

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<v Speaker 16>eight to twelve inches of rain, and that would cause

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<v Speaker 7>Bloomberg's Craig Allen Global News twenty four hours a day

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<v Speaker 7>Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg Sports Outcake with John Stash Shower John, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning, Karen. Further evidence it's gonna be tough for

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<v Speaker 6>the to get out of the East in the upcoming playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>They'd likely have to get past both the Celtics and

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<v Speaker 6>the Calves. In Cleveland, Nick's had a fifteen point lead

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<v Speaker 6>in the first half, but they trailed by twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>in the second. The Calves won for the sixty first time,

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<v Speaker 6>won twenty four to one oh five at the Guard

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<v Speaker 6>Rangers in wild The game tied four different times. Vincent

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<v Speaker 6>Trochech scored twenty four seconds into overtime. Rangers won five

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<v Speaker 6>to four. They're tied to the last playoff spot. Washington

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<v Speaker 6>lost at Carolina five to one, but the one goal

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<v Speaker 6>for the Capitals was by Alex Doveetchkin, thirty ninth of

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<v Speaker 6>the season for the thirty nine year old, and Novechkan

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<v Speaker 6>moving closer to becoming the leading goals scored in NHL history,

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<v Speaker 6>needs three more. Pid Alonzo had those big home runs

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<v Speaker 6>with the Mets last fall. All off season, the question

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<v Speaker 6>was would he resign. He did. In Miami. He came

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<v Speaker 6>up in the eighth inning two on two, out Balanzo twice.

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<v Speaker 17>What deep center field sodelha back.

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<v Speaker 18>Takes a look out here.

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<v Speaker 6>Peter Alonzo tis the.

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<v Speaker 18>Game with a three run homer.

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<v Speaker 6>Dead shut the Great Ways and why Mett's beat the

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<v Speaker 6>Marlin sixty five and eleven innings. They've got the home

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<v Speaker 6>opener tomorrow afternoon against the Pirates at the Stadium. Arizona

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<v Speaker 6>score twice at each of the first two innings off

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<v Speaker 6>Carlos Dan did not score again, but the Yankees were

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<v Speaker 6>blanked until an Anthony Volpi three on homer bott.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the night.

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<v Speaker 6>The Diamondbacks won four to three. Dodgers beat Atlanta on

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<v Speaker 6>a Showyozani home run bottom of the night. The Dodgers

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<v Speaker 6>are eight and o. The Braves are zero and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning. I'm Caro a Moscow alongside Nathan Hager, and

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<v Speaker 2>we continue our coverage on tariffs with a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>US Treasury Secretary Scott Messant. He spoke with the Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>televisions and Marie hor Dern shortly after the tariffs were announced,

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<v Speaker 2>urging other economies against taking retaliatory steps against the new

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<v Speaker 2>set of America's retaliatory terror.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's listen in what I would say, and Marie is

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<v Speaker 9>I would advise none of the countries to panic. I

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<v Speaker 9>wouldn't try to retaliate because as long as you don't retaliate,

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<v Speaker 9>this is the high end of the number, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think the market could have certainty that this is the

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<v Speaker 9>number barring retaliation. So we've got a ceiling and then

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<v Speaker 9>we can see if there's a different floor.

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<v Speaker 18>So you sound like you're ready for a negotiation. A

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<v Speaker 18>number of these partners. Has the European Union, has China?

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<v Speaker 18>Has India?

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<v Speaker 14>Have these countries reached out?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, they've all reached out, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 9>up to President Trump to see what he wants to do.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the mindset might be to let things settle

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<v Speaker 9>for a while. Their terrifts or non tariff barriers have

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<v Speaker 9>been on a long time, so we'll see where it

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<v Speaker 9>goes from here.

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<v Speaker 18>When it comes to China, they have a much higher

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<v Speaker 18>rate on this list. On top of that, there's still

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<v Speaker 18>that twenty percent fentanyl tariff rate. Is all of this

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<v Speaker 18>coming together to be more than a fifty percent tariff

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<v Speaker 18>rate for Beijing?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, yes, I think it is, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 9>a combination of things. And again that I think China

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<v Speaker 9>said today that solving the fentanyl crisis depends on taking

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<v Speaker 9>off the fentanyl tariffs, and I'm pretty sure that's not

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<v Speaker 9>the way the sequencing is going to work. They're exporting

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<v Speaker 9>the precursor chemicals, and every day, every week, every month,

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<v Speaker 9>Americans are dying and it's going to have to stop.

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<v Speaker 18>When it comes to places like China, the President has

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<v Speaker 18>mentioned he's willing to even look at things like TikTok

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<v Speaker 18>to potentially do a negotiate them. When it comes to tariffs,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm sure you're looking at things like the yu Wan.

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<v Speaker 18>What's on the table when it comes to this trade

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<v Speaker 18>realignment between Beijing.

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<v Speaker 9>And Washington, Well, we haven't started anything yet. We've been

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<v Speaker 9>busy with the tariffs. I've been busy, as we talked

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<v Speaker 9>about earlier, the tax bills going very well. So I

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<v Speaker 9>think that we will move toward the bilateral relationship with

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<v Speaker 9>China that we've done the multilateral.

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<v Speaker 18>Tariffs plans for conversations or a trip to Beijing.

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<v Speaker 9>Nothing eminent when.

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<v Speaker 18>It comes to this negotiation. April ninth, these tariffs come

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<v Speaker 18>in place. Do you plan on having negotiations before that date?

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<v Speaker 9>Again, I'm not part of the negotiations, so you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we'll see. I am sure that there are going to

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<v Speaker 9>be a lot of calls. I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 9>they're going to be negotiations.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was US Treasury Secretary's god Messon speaking with

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<v Speaker 2>the Bloomberg TVs and Marie hord Durn after President Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>tariff announcement. You can hear the full interview on the

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg Talks podcast page and watch it on the Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>podcast page on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan Karen, we continue our coverage of these tariffs. We

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<v Speaker 3>are joined now by Bloomberg News Global Trades are Brendan

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<v Speaker 3>Murray and Terry Haynes, the founder of Pangaea Policy, for

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<v Speaker 3>a roundtable this morning after the announcement. Great to speak

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<v Speaker 3>with both of you, and I'll start with you, Brendan,

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<v Speaker 3>because even as Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett is framing this

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<v Speaker 3>as a negotiation, this seems like a really huge start

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<v Speaker 3>to what could be coming.

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<v Speaker 17>Good morning, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 13>He said, you know, let's let this paraphrasing, he said,

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<v Speaker 13>let's let this settle in for a while, so that

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<v Speaker 13>you know, that doesn't seem like you know, a window

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<v Speaker 13>for negotiating over the next four or five days. So

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<v Speaker 13>these tariffs are going to take effect by early next

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<v Speaker 13>week and countries are going to be scrambling to figure

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<v Speaker 13>out do we want to retaliate, ratchet up the ratchet

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<v Speaker 13>up the pressure, or do we want to you know,

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<v Speaker 13>take a you know, a more negotiating posture and try

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<v Speaker 13>to work this out. Either way, marcuts don't like it,

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<v Speaker 13>and economists are marking down their outlook for growth and

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<v Speaker 13>marking up their outlook for inflation. And you know the

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<v Speaker 13>aftermath of it here, even though President Trump said this

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<v Speaker 13>is simple, reciprocity is about as simple as it gets,

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<v Speaker 13>this still creates a lot of confusion.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry, how does the negotiation go when the president is

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<v Speaker 3>charting with this Onslaught.

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<v Speaker 17>Good morning, Nathan. You know, the negotiations in a lot

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<v Speaker 17>of ways have already started. My understanding in a lot

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<v Speaker 17>of places is that Secretary of Commerce is the Lutnix

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<v Speaker 17>team had already been giving wish lists both tariffs and

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<v Speaker 17>barriers to different countries who were already kind of parsing

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<v Speaker 17>that and trying to figure out how they might respond

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<v Speaker 17>to it. And a lot of countries, I mean major countries,

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<v Speaker 17>both allies and non aligned, are going to have to

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<v Speaker 17>frankly work through with their own industries there, whether it

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<v Speaker 17>be agriculture or machine industries, to figure out exactly what

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<v Speaker 17>they want to do and how they want to do it. So,

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<v Speaker 17>you know, I think it's it's correct to say this

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<v Speaker 17>is not going to magically disappear or be mitigated in

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<v Speaker 17>the next few days. But all countries have had an

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<v Speaker 17>advanced warning of what the United States might want and

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<v Speaker 17>what the kind of the parameters for negotiations will be.

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<v Speaker 17>So you know, number one, there's that number two. You've

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<v Speaker 17>seen encouraging responses by a lot of countries. I was encouraged.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, Canada of course got singled out for special treatment,

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<v Speaker 17>but you had Premiere Ford on your air last night

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<v Speaker 17>and he was urging Carneie not to retaliate at all.

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<v Speaker 17>So you know, you'll have a lot of those kind

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<v Speaker 17>of responses.

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<v Speaker 3>Notwithstanding Canada and Mexico being spared at least this round, Brendan,

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<v Speaker 3>just about every other country in the world, even some

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<v Speaker 3>very very small ones are being targeted. In this long

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<v Speaker 3>list that President Trump showed at the Rose Garden last night,

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<v Speaker 3>what could the potential impact be for this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>country by country tariff announcement.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, one of the hardest hit regions was South Asia.

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<v Speaker 13>Countries like Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia. These are places where a

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<v Speaker 13>lot of the sort of lower skilled manufacturing has migrated

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<v Speaker 13>from China over the past several years. And you know,

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<v Speaker 13>those are places where you know, close clothes and shoes

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<v Speaker 13>are made. And so you know, there are stories that

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<v Speaker 13>we're reporting today about how you know, Nike, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>you know Nike tennis shoes and those kinds of things

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<v Speaker 13>that are made in South Asia, you know, are going

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<v Speaker 13>to be more expensive. The other the other issue is

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<v Speaker 13>you know, electronics. Apple is starting to produce a lot

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<v Speaker 13>more of their phones in India. India you know, got

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<v Speaker 13>hit with a tariff in the twenty five percent range,

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<v Speaker 13>I think. And so you know, if these can't be

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<v Speaker 13>resolved by negotiation, you know, anytime soon, then you know,

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<v Speaker 13>consumer prices could conceivably go up. Interestingly, Switzerland was singled out,

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<v Speaker 13>got a bigger got a bigger tariff level than the

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<v Speaker 13>rest of the than than the European Union around it.

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<v Speaker 13>So you know, rolex watches come next week are going

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<v Speaker 13>to be about thirty one percent more expensive than they

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<v Speaker 13>otherwise would be.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry, we haven't heard much Republican reaction on Capitol Hill

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<v Speaker 3>besides the four Republicans who voted with Democrats against Canada tariffs.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think the Republican reaction is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be as these tariffs take a fact, I.

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<v Speaker 17>Think there'll be two things that happened, David. One above board,

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<v Speaker 17>one below board. The above board will be that there

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<v Speaker 17>will be some concerns from Republicans from based on the

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<v Speaker 17>situation in their own states, about making sure that they

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<v Speaker 17>push Trump to resolve these issues lower tariffs, engage in

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<v Speaker 17>the negotiations, do whatever they can, and frankly, you know,

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<v Speaker 17>work with the other the other country as well. That's

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<v Speaker 17>number one. Number two. I think another impact here is

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<v Speaker 17>that it lights an additional hot foot under the administration's

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<v Speaker 17>broader economic agenda. And you can hear this from a

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<v Speaker 17>lot of Senators. You can also hear it from Secretary Vessant,

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<v Speaker 17>who continues to push the idea that the tax cuts

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<v Speaker 17>may show up as soon as July or August or

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<v Speaker 17>September something like that. Now I've got it at eighty

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<v Speaker 17>percent by the end of the calendar year, but there's

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<v Speaker 17>an opportunity should everyone wish on the Republican side to

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<v Speaker 17>move these things along faster, and Besson will also be

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<v Speaker 17>focusing on that. He has said that he's going to

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<v Speaker 17>spend a lot of time pushing exactly that agenda. Think

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<v Speaker 17>of Bess and broadly, as in twenty twenty five, as

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<v Speaker 17>Gary Cohne was in twenty seventeen, the guy who's constantly

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<v Speaker 17>up there goosing things along, trying to make it go

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<v Speaker 17>as fast as he can.

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