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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is more specting, little treats,

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome you. Another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast does that to bide the United States Marine Corps.

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Speaker 1: It's the Christmas Special. My name is Dan Hands is

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Speaker 1: coming to you from a virtual room build with heroes

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Speaker 1: in pretty sweaters. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, Colleen will Blood

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Speaker 1: is up the gang. I like mark situation how he

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Speaker 1: has lights that are flickering around him. That is something else. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just when I think of the Marines

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Speaker 1: there protecting, they're probably looking at this and saying, um,

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Speaker 1: the mission is clear. We feel good about what we're

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Speaker 1: doing for the States and for these individuals on the

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Speaker 1: screen right now. Absolutely they're paying that money. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're for people listening on the podcast. We've all got

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Speaker 1: these like ugly team sweaters on. You can get Mark

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Speaker 1: Scott pajamas, but yeah, Colleen came with just like a

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Speaker 1: nice looking sweaters. Is the carpet walwt odd go, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you did it again. We've talked about this. You you

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Speaker 1: tend to speak for the group when you say things like, uh,

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Speaker 1: everyone's wearing ugly sweaters. I tend to think that my

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Speaker 1: they're literally branded ugly sweaters, so people know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. When you go to the ugly sweater section

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Speaker 1: don't believe it. I think it's a beautiful, gorgeous sweater. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the Christmas Special and we have a great episode

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Speaker 1: holiday themed segments. And did I mention special guests? Because

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Speaker 1: we have special guests. It's gonna be quite a show.

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Speaker 1: But we do have some business us to start with

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Speaker 1: Connie Fox. It is uh the end of the week

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Speaker 1: fifteen slate, So let's start today's show by digging in

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Speaker 1: on Monday night football, checking into Pitty. You'll keep it

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Speaker 1: right up the middle. Fiddlings having himself a good old

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Speaker 1: time twenty three yard rushing touchdown. Alright, here's the road

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Speaker 1: to victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. And yes,

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers again fall short and really an ugly way.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen the final Bengals over Steelers, the third straight loss

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Speaker 1: And Colleen. I don't know about you, but this feels

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Speaker 1: like something more than a bump in the road for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: It feels like something closer to in an existential crisis,

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Speaker 1: this thing figured out well because it's three straight weeks

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Speaker 1: now they've lost. But this latest one, you know, they

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Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of myself on Monday's like foggy,

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Speaker 1: I would love to say that I didn't see that coming,

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Speaker 1: even even at this level. I mean, it's they've really

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Speaker 1: taken it up a notch for the holiday season. But

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Speaker 1: It was shocking, and yet, like the way this Steeler's

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Speaker 1: this defense, they must be tired, they must be so

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers offense had two yards in their first

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Speaker 1: he knows exactly what it's all about. Cincinnati has been

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Speaker 1: it was so much fun to watch the Eagles again.

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00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: It was the most exciting loss, and Jalen Hurts gives

425
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: the team exactly what they need. I mean, he had

426
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: three passing touchdowns, he was running well, had the rushing

427
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: touchdown as well. He was sacked six times, but listen

428
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: like he was fine. He was able to bounce back.

429
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: And this is behind an offensive line that has been

430
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: so hurt all season long. There's been a zillion combinations,

431
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: and it just feels like this team plays way harder

432
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts and they just like are interesting to watch,

433
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not banging my head against the wall. It's

434
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: like taking out the garbage like it's not before every

435
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: time I turned on the Eagles it felt like such

436
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: a chore and now it's actually like something that I

437
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: want to do, which is cool. Sometimes sometimes I feel

438
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: like it's been a bit of a Allower reveal Magnie

439
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: if Eco around the Eagles fans in the last couple

440
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: of years, like you have one of the great super

441
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Bowl runs of all time, and then a couple of

442
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: years passed, and it's almost like the way you people talk,

443
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: it's like that never happened, and you get to act

444
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: like you're this long tortured fan base that like, how

445
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: did we put up with Carson Wentz for that long?

446
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: And Doug Peterson? What a mess? Oh? Whoa is us?

447
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Let's get on the radio and talk about how hard

448
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: it is to be spared. You just compared Ben Roethlisberger

449
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: to Carson Wentz and the Eagles offense about talking about

450
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: how terrible the Steelers were last night. So yes, that's

451
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: been an entire season of that. I get it. I

452
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: just like the better when you're an internal loser like

453
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: my team. To your point, Colleen, like you, you definitely

454
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: want a coaching staff that figures things out and comes

455
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: to the same conclusion that fans came to six weeks prior.

456
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Um the self scouting doesn't seem to be the high

457
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: point um of Doug Peterson's and his staff. Uh So,

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00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I understand frustration. Uh Dan, I don't

459
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: know about the law reveal magnificent side of it that feels, Um,

460
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: what does that say about Patriots fans who are grumbling

461
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: about I'm with you, Dan, I feel like they've done

462
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: enough for me. I'm not allowed to complain about the

463
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Patriots for the rest of my life. And they're complaining

464
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: this year like the last twenty years. Uh didn't happen.

465
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: By the way, all could be forgiven, Colleen, if they

466
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: win these two games the Eagles and get into the playoffs.

467
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite as far fetched as people believe.

468
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Interesting Alright, Greg, Greg getting naughty because I know you

469
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: like to I do, and where or else to get naughty? Um,

470
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, than a strip club. I feel like someone's

471
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: got to talk about Dwayne Haskins here. Look, it's a

472
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: beautiful you know, in a normal world after a loss,

473
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: that's where you want to go with your girlfriend. I

474
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: don't know if this was a birthday party. He was

475
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend and like a bunch of her friends

476
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: at the strip club and uh, okay, you know, but

477
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: we're not in a normal world. We're in a pandemic

478
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: and you're you're in charge of an organization and a

479
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: franchise right now where you are the only healthy quarterback

480
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen's out for the year. Alex Smith has a

481
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: calf injury. Everything he's battled through, and you're putting your

482
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: whole team at risk by going out to the Strip

483
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Club on a Sunday night after not playing too well either. So, man,

484
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: that just put every everyone in his organization and in peril,

485
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: not only because he could catch Rhona, but that he

486
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be available for this next game where they

487
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: can possibly, you know, clinch the division. We're uncertain how

488
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: the Washington team is gonna handle this. They've at least

489
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: find him, um but either way, Yeah, I know he's

490
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: a young man, but you gotta you gotta have your

491
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: your you know what, in order a little better than this.

492
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: It's real bad, Listen. It's a tough one. I get

493
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: the argument too, like there's levels of ways to mess up.

494
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: This is a franchise, um uh, that has had many

495
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: things this season that are way worse than what Dwayne

496
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: Haskins do. Some that came out today, some lawsuits enst

497
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: the organization. I get it. There's different levels, but it

498
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're not letting down all of your teammates

499
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: in the franchise. But it's a knucklehead move, and it's

500
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: a guy that you've heard whispers about, you know, and

501
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: the reason why it seems ron Overa was loath to

502
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: even play a former first round pick and then something

503
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: like this happens and it's like, oh, this isn't so

504
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: hard to connect the dots, like is this dude really

505
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: in it to win it? And the type of guy

506
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: you want? And Mark I and and all guys in

507
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: general have friends um that they just can't get enough

508
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: of the club, that that exotic dancing um. And I don't.

509
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't put us in that. I don't mean,

510
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't say that I'm like, um, some type of saint,

511
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: but it's never been my thing. But I have friends,

512
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: just like everyone has friends that cannot get enough of it.

513
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: It's an addiction. And COVID nineteen what it's done. How

514
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know how this club is open. Wherever

515
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: he went is in an underground strip club? Tell me more.

516
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm interested intellectually. I just this would be my counterpoint

517
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: to Grant Greg. I mean, you know, we're in tough

518
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: times and I'm sure that club probably operating on in

519
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: an underground fashion to some degree. Think of how those

520
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: workers you know, working very hard at the club or

521
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: I have probably been struggling financially not getting their normal

522
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: allotment of green backs. Um, how nice of the of

523
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: the city's uh, you know, first string quarterback to Waltson

524
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: and and help these workers out. Greg fair point. I mean,

525
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: you could definitely put it on the government in Virginia

526
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: for allowing the strip clubs to be open, because I

527
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: don't think it was underground. Um, but it's it's problematic,

528
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: problematic all around. I mean, just imagine that conversation he

529
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: had to have haskins with Ron Rivera, who's battling cancer

530
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: out here and putting and he's putting this whole team.

531
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, So Ron Rivera does not, which is like

532
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: people do we see young people doing crazy, immature things

533
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: all the time. Right now, he is hard, he's hardly alone. Uh.

534
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: It's just like you're letting down your teammates. That's the problem.

535
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: You're on a team. Take me through this. In a

536
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: modern day strip club right now? Are the dancers wearing masks?

537
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so. The only reason why

538
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I think it was it's not closed. First of all,

539
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: like the South is pretty much open right now in

540
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: Virginia's the South, and they like listed the place. It

541
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: looks it sounded like they were trying to get some

542
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: some pubs, So I don't think the place was open illegally.

543
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: There's some more homework on this, please, Greg Mark getting naughty. UM, Well,

544
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: I want to circle back to you know, when this um,

545
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: when the pandemics started in our country, and we do

546
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: we do UM follow the rules, and so we were

547
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: allowed to each of us pick what would have been

548
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: like sort of our all star UM quarantine group. And

549
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I had to go look at the list, but mine

550
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: included UM Alec Baldwin, UM, Michael Irvin, UH close friend

551
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: of yours, Colleen um Gianni from Love Is Blind. That

552
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: feels like that show was relevant forty four years ago

553
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: at this point. But UM, don't forget, Yeah, don't forget

554
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: that Gayegado was also in the room and I had

555
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: to you know, didn't like to do it, but I

556
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: had to report that her behavior back at that time,

557
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: in in in late March early April, was was poor

558
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: and she you know, as a group, we had to

559
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, teach her about discipline and things and just

560
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: maybe you know, mind your man. He tied into the radiators.

561
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: We tied her to um a part of the room

562
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: that wouldn't move. And I just want to report back

563
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: that you know, you would think that she would have

564
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: found her way back onto the nice list, um learning

565
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: some lessons. It's not the case. It's unfortunate, it's not

566
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: the case. She's sure her behavior is not improved one

567
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: iota UM, So she remains firmly attached to the naughty list.

568
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: No further comments. Why I mean, I didn't you know

569
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: that basement a stinker is supposed to be supposed to

570
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: be bad. He didn't want to wear Christmas. No, it's

571
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: not that. It's not that frivolous. It's her basic um

572
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: inability to follow directions. The best part of that video,

573
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: beyond the terrible singing in the self self absorbed nous

574
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: of the celebrities involved. Uh it showed up in a

575
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: countdown UH list I saw recently of worst songs of

576
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: the year. It was number one the imagined cover and

577
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: she opens it Gail before she throws it to the

578
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: celebs with Okay, it's day six of quarantine. This is

579
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: really tough. It's like stay six. That's what's that for us?

580
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: But um, all right, finally I got one more naughty

581
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: a fantasy football fans. Let's let's let's let's get our

582
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: stuff together. Okay, let's pull it together, because you guys

583
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: got a chill. You gotta chill. And Josh Jacobs shot

584
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: a warning flare out a couple of weeks ago. Um

585
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: when he did that thing on the Graham where he

586
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: posted that he wasn't playing even though he was active,

587
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and then he he put up the middle finger emoji. Well,

588
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: that's an undercurrent right now. I've been tracking this. It's

589
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: part of a growing trend in the NFL. Players are

590
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: fed up with you fantasy people on social media, you know,

591
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: trolling on them when they're hurt or otherwise struggling and

592
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: not helping your fake team. Raheemo starts the latest guy.

593
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: He just went to I R by the way for

594
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the million time players don't care about your fantasy team.

595
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: He tweeted, this is our real life and most of

596
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: that's a good point. And I I did something a

597
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. You remember when Christian McCaffrey was

598
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: coming back from the shoulder and it was just in

599
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: time for the fantasy playoffs, and then he tweaked the

600
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: quad and the report came out midweek and absolutely devastating

601
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: to McCaffrey fantasy owners who thought, Okay, we survived this

602
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: far without our number one pick, but we're gonna get

603
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: back this all purpose stud and he's gonna win me

604
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: the league. And it didn't work out that way. It

605
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna miss uh, the entirety of the

606
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: fantasy playoffs and maybe the rest of the real season.

607
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: I just went and searched out Christian McCaffrey on Twitter

608
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: and checked out the mentions, the vitriol, the absolute heinous

609
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: garbage being sent his way, ill wishes. Uh, you know

610
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: things about how I hope you never play again. I

611
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: hope you never heal up. You're a bum, you don't

612
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: try hard enough. Are you people kidding me? You idiots?

613
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Are you seriously thinking that these guys deserve that type

614
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: of treatment when they are in a frustrating position as

615
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: professionals of being injured or going through a struggle. Um, anyway,

616
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: pull it together, Fantasy. I'm I've played fantasy football since

617
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old. I've been frustrated with players,

618
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: but never once did it ever occurred to me to

619
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: get on Twitter and act the player and tell him

620
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: something negative or wish him ill. Will clowns clean it

621
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: up your naughty coal for you. It always seems so

622
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: weird when when the attack turned personal to like about

623
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: fantasy and then all of a sudden, people are attacking

624
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: like they're family and their girlfriend and like it's just

625
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: it gets personal for everyone involved, which is just so

626
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: super weird to me. It is the downside I think

627
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: of money being on things. It's something the NFL not

628
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: to get too serious, but has to think about when

629
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, awkwardly embracing gambling, which you know is happening

630
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: right now, the owner's own DFS teams. Everything is getting

631
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: a little looser. But that's like a negative we've seen

632
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: in a lot of other sports where in countries where

633
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: gamblings legal is like the fans get out of control

634
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna lose all these players on social media,

635
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: like there's gonna not gonna be any inter it. I mean, Greg,

636
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: do you feel at all, um, at all complicit um

637
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: for being someone that I think carried fantasy football from

638
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: an innocent game that children enjoy, an industry made an

639
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: industry out of it, and it's all information and money

640
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: and betting based and that's some creating. So much of

641
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: this Fitriel and it really sources back to your early

642
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: career in uh in football. Do you think it was

643
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: pretty much me? It was pretty much and me and

644
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Matthew Berry that really got to go and fantasy Greg

645
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: ball they used to call it. Uh, well, I don't

646
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: play fantasy anymore. So maybe that tells you your answer, Well,

647
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: that's you're washing your You can't just wash your hands

648
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: of it. That simply Yeah, track what's happening and Iraq anymore.

649
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm sure that doesn't work out either. That

650
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: was the guilt. That's why Greg walked away from the game.

651
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: All right, we're just getting started in our holiday celebration.

652
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: The wait, I've got one more nice one for you,

653
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: taking one in. It's one final nice. We're gonna give

654
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: a nice uh little nice to uh to Rhoda. That's right,

655
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: it's Keisha's mom who gave us the best Christmas miracle ever.

656
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: She had a flight out of town on Monday and

657
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: uh she changed it. She saw what was going on

658
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: at the house. She realized would be a beautiful, a

659
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: beautiful holidays, Christmas and New Year's if Rhoda stayed in

660
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: and helped Lakeisha and West out. And since you know

661
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: there are family, Rhoda is too, and we we appreciate

662
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: her extending that trip last minute Christmas mirror call. For

663
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: two more weeks she'll be in town. It's great news

664
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: what a woman Rhoda is. And yes, whenever Mom's around,

665
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: that makes the holidays that much better. Uh, yes, she's

666
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: a queen. And before we say goodbye and get ready

667
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: to celebrate the holidays, we welcome in the great Ricky

668
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: Hollywood Erica temp post wearing with pride and I respect

669
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: her for it her Patriots sweater. Missing the playoffs for

670
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: the third time in twenty years, which basically covers most

671
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: of your lifespan Erica. Thank you for joining us on

672
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: today's show. Yeah, thanks, thanks for having me. It's said

673
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: such an honor. Just real quickly, before we go, I

674
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you guys who's on my naughty list

675
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: this year, and it's the four of you. Because this

676
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: show is a family friendly football show and you're talking

677
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: about strip clubs. Um Mark can't say gal Gadot's name

678
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: correctly calling her Gail. I mean, there's just been a

679
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: just you guys are just the rails. Yeah, there's been Iraq,

680
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: George W. Bush mentions like this show is supposed to

681
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: be family friendly and you guys definitely are getting coal

682
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: in your stockings this year going well, it's virtual. Look

683
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: at that a little inside dig there from Connie and

684
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: you can tell it riled up Ricky Hollywood. And now

685
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: point counterpoint, is die Hard a Christmas movie? The final answer, Yes,

686
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: it may seem cliche this next segment, but you know what,

687
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: it was time to finally get to the bottom of

688
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: this question, the one that's been asked on social media

689
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: for years. Die Hard the film released tagline, yes there

690
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: were twelve terrorists, one cop. The odds are against John McClean.

691
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: That's just the way he likes it. And it was

692
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: a huge hit, launched Bruce Willis as a movie star.

693
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: But it has always been a question. Now this action film,

694
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: the one that serves as the template of every action

695
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: movie that followed for decades, instead Christmas film. And now

696
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I welcome in uh Patrick Claiban and the Christmas Special

697
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: here because first of all, it's great to see Patrick

698
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: and his Christmas weather and a good friend of the show.

699
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Welcome Patrick, how you doing, buddy, Happy holidays, Happy holidays.

700
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me as a part of this

701
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: pivotal discussion that some people feel like it has gone

702
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: on too long. Look, we talked about the value of

703
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: running backs every single day. Um like, it's always value

704
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: of running backs back and forth. It girls, that never ends.

705
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: We do this for like twelve days a year. It's fun.

706
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: It's fun. We get to talk about a good movie,

707
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: as he said, you know, and and as Matt Money

708
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: As Matt Money Smith said, this is the final answer. Greg.

709
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I know you were a huge fan of this film,

710
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: Mark you saw it as a boy. I don't know

711
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: about you, Connie, but to finally get to the bottom

712
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: of this, so does it need to be discussed incessantly

713
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: every December going forward? That's not a bad thing either.

714
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. I'm excited to get this finely

715
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: off of my chest. So I was in model Congress,

716
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm I can be a you know,

717
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: a judge here. You know, as a kid, I was

718
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: into debating. You know. It's good to hear because, as

719
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: it so happens, Patrick and I are on opposite sides.

720
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: Of the coin. So we're gonna do it Mark like

721
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: old A T N debate club style with point counterpoint,

722
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: and we'll start the We'll start the floor here, sixty

723
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: seconds each. That's all. That's all we get. Claybonn and

724
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: I Claibonn will take the position that die Hard is

725
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, and then I will take the dissenting view. Patrick,

726
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: get it going, Ricky, make sure the clock us all right?

727
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: Tell me tell me when to go, Ricky, you are

728
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: on the clock, all right? What is a perfectly canonical

729
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: Christmas story? Is it Mary and Joseph and jam And

730
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: in the Manger? Is it St? Nicholas? If you're counting reindeer,

731
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: do you start with Rudolph? Like? How important is it

732
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: to you to recognize things that are connected to this holiday?

733
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I asked that, because clearly, if you're a skeptic at

734
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: this point, this film about a man reconnecting with his

735
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: family on Christmas that opens with him carrying a gift

736
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: while sleigh bells are ringing and being wished to marry

737
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Christmas on the way to see his estranged wife, whose

738
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: name is literally Holly. If you've heard all of that

739
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: and this still hasn't matter to you, then the conversation

740
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: isn't gonna land because this is a conversation about what

741
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Christmas movie is. It can't be about what particular aspects

742
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: of the movie connect to Christmas because a minute it's

743
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: literally not enough time for me to go through all

744
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: the ways Christmas is an integral to the story, The soundtrack,

745
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: the style, how Al Powell, we meet him while he's

746
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: getting gifts for his wife while well, let it snow

747
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: plays in a in a convenient store. This is about

748
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: adherence to dogmatic rules of what Christmas movies can be.

749
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: And if you want those rules, then Rudolph Reindeer at

750
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: least in July nineteen eighty eight, let's start right there.

751
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Summertime um and the fact that the mechanics of the

752
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: film to get everything in place, it needed a time

753
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: and place, It needed Christmas to get the people together

754
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: to make the movie work. But you know, people tell

755
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: their friends and strangers on social media the die Hard

756
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: is a Christmas movie because they think it says something

757
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: about themselves. It makes them edgy and dangerous and reverends

758
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: even you know, a little bit subversive. Oh you like

759
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful life. Not me. Oh what an iconoclass.

760
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Deep down, everyone just wants to be a little bit

761
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: different special. I'm not here to win any popularity contests.

762
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't the team and picked up smoking in high

763
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: school to look cool. I didn't have a girl friend

764
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: during that time in my life. That's just glory boy behavior.

765
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: So yes, there's a psychological and sociological conversation to be

766
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: had here, but most importantly, there's a practical one, and

767
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: it boils down to a simple reality. If a guy

768
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: gets his head blown off at any point, you are

769
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: not watching a Christmas movie in excess of six heads

770
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: or blown off. You may respond again, counterpoint, that's it.

771
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh you guys don't go back and forth. Well, okay,

772
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: closing arguments, so you just and you get to bad

773
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: clean up and then that's it. No, he had the point,

774
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: I had the counterpoint. That's it. Okay, that's how it works.

775
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: It's very fast. What are what are the thoughts from

776
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the group. You know, I was with

777
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: you the president I accept. However, this plays out well.

778
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: So first of all, um, it's bad for Patrick because

779
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: I can't even remember watching the movie. So this is

780
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: not this is not great for clay Bon. But Dan,

781
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: I was with you until you said that it's not

782
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie if somebody gets their head blown off.

783
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: But Scrooged is one of my favorite Christmas movies and

784
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: part one of the most iconic scenes I would argue

785
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: and Scrooged is when they're coming up with the new

786
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: promo for the network and there are freeway killings and

787
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: acid rain and uh, you're supposed to be terrified to

788
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: miss Christmas. And to me that kind of uh that

789
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: there's people that are getting their heads blown off in

790
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: that promo. So I can't stand with you. Do you

791
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: actually see it? I think you might, maybe not. You

792
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: do see a plane crash, you see a fiery plane

793
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: crash and burn. So it's a very compelling. Um, both

794
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: of you made compelling points. I would I would say

795
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: that I did a little bit of study here, and

796
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: there are nineteen Christmas trees and die hard Christmas decorations

797
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: show up fifteen times, UM, Carol's Christmas Carols sung by

798
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis and others twelve times, the word Christmass said

799
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: fourteen times, and there are four other more vague Christmas references.

800
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: Every one of those categories Um, except for one beat

801
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: out home alone U and Dan, I think that you

802
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: made a very strong point about maybe a certain type

803
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: of scene pulling people out of the Christmas mood. Um,

804
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: but that's that's an opinion. Um. I I kind of

805
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I but I it's just simply

806
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: an opinion. Um. It is a Christmas movie in so

807
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: many different ways, and it's so on the nose, and

808
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: they make such an effort to tell you that it's

809
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie that. UM, I don't understand the strident

810
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: opposition to what to what the filmmakers were attempting to

811
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: do before our eyes. I mean I I've I saw

812
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: this movie at least ten or fifteen times, but I

813
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: have not seen it since I think I was fifteen

814
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: or sixteen years old. So I want to go revisit it. Um. Yeah,

815
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: you've gotten me excited for that. I remember seeing die

816
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Hard with a Vengeance number three with my dad in

817
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: the theater. I think I was in high school. It

818
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: was pretty good. I like that Hard three. Uh. The

819
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: The only just like sort of debate style note I

820
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: would make is Dan went off talking about the actual movie,

821
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, and was kind of talking about the reaction

822
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: to the reaction to the movie, which felt sort of

823
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: like off the actual you know, you know, having the

824
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: strong argument of just die Hard and Patrick stuck to

825
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: that nicely. Okay, so I see where this is going.

826
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Is my dog is incensed at you? Dare um she

827
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: feels like, uh, you know, I don't want to break

828
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: the rules of of you know, point counterpoint. So I'm

829
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: sorry to say something because we might You're okay, now

830
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: now it's open it's open. Um. Yeah, It's it's weird

831
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: to to go to this. Like, like Greg mentioned the

832
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: meta discussion of the movie, and it was just kind

833
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: of like my overall point, like why are we dictating

834
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: to other people, like how they should feel about this

835
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: movie and how they how it relates to a holiday

836
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: that they make. You know, some people eat mac and

837
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 1: cheese on the beach on Christmas, like some people don't

838
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: talk to anybody on Christmas. Like, Christmas can be a

839
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: personal holiday, it can be something it's a yeared experience

840
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: that we all have. And one thing that a lot

841
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: of people share is watching this movie that has so

842
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: many Christmas themes, people insist on saying gift instead of

843
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Jeff because the creator says, that's how you're supposed to

844
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: say it. The people who make Die harder like, yes,

845
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: this is a Christmas movie. Look at all the things

846
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: that we left in here. But for some reason there's

847
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: this you know, strident opposition which I don't know. I

848
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: don't tell people how to feel about art. Director strong point,

849
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Well he just did. He said that it's a Christmas movie.

850
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: To me telling me how to feel about the art. No,

851
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to. It doesn't have to be a

852
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: Christmas Let's give the final word to John McTiernan, the director. Okay,

853
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: because he has said that the film is somewhat inspired

854
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: by It's a Wonderful Life, which is interesting to me.

855
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: His quote, we hadn't intended Die Hard to be a

856
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: Christmas movie, but the joy that came from it is

857
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: what turned it into a Christmas movie. And that's really

858
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: the best I can tell you about it. I mean,

859
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: you kind of blew up your own side of the

860
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: argument there, but he's fast. Think so dan is dan

861
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: is a fair man. You blew it up like one

862
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: of those heads, you know, Yes, for adults, it's for

863
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: the adults, maybe young young I can't see the head

864
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: of the Japanese company. His head exploding. But that's just me.

865
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: That's it. Now. I'm gonna side with just to go

866
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: against an that's it. That's fine. I can deal with that.

867
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I can take that. The special guests in this Christmas

868
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: special keep coming, and it's one of our very favorites.

869
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: Let's welcome welcome him in right now. And uh, you

870
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: know a former member of the NFL media team who

871
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: has gone on to great things over at Sports Illustrated

872
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: and Monday Morning Quarterback. Yes, it is none other than

873
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: the great Connor or Welcome to the Around the NFL

874
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: Christmas Special, buddy. Yea, yeah, we're in a six box

875
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: right now. This is like amazing. It looks good. Connor.

876
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: First of all, how the hell are you, buddy? You

877
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: are a domesticated man, married with children. You have your

878
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: own house, a mortgage, and I'm sure a Christmas tree

879
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: that's real not fake. Uh tell take us through it all.

880
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: Fake Christmas tree, man, I'm I'm going fake Christmas tree

881
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: until I cannot worry about the kids swallowing the needles,

882
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: which they want to do. You know. Um, but it's

883
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: great we have you guys worry about your kids eating

884
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: the needles of the Christmas tree. Mine did, and then

885
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: I started I took it away. Yeah, animals also spiders.

886
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: Spiders are in Christmas trees. Mine is also a huge

887
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: fire hazard. Now I don't want to get into another

888
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: debate here this is but I did. We spent a

889
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: hefty amount of on a living tree. Uh, and it

890
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: died almost immediately. And it is a death trap. It's

891
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: a fire death trap in our living room right now. Um, Connor, buddy,

892
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: I needed you on the show today, needed you on

893
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: this wall because although the holiday season is filled with joy,

894
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of reasons to be stressed out

895
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: about it, and there to be anxiety and even even

896
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: the Christmas season, Uh, sometimes things grind the gears of

897
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Connor or and that's why we're bringing it back. Or

898
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? The holiday edition? What do you

899
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: got for us? Connor? I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe ruin

900
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: this a little bit, um. But I remember claib On

901
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago talking about meta discussions, and

902
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: I think what grinds my gears is in preparation for

903
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: going onto this show, I went back and I listened

904
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: to some old or you kidding me, and everything that

905
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I said I hated, I would love to have right

906
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: now during the pandemic, like every single thing, like I

907
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: think I was like, hockey is stupid. I would love

908
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: like live hockey to go see. I hate hockey. I

909
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: think I said the food Fighters were stupid, Like you

910
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: know how much I would pay to go to a

911
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: Fighters concert right now? Of them Seinfeld, I said was

912
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: stupid and even you know, I haven't watched it because

913
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: it is the worst show ever made, But some people

914
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: need that to get through the pandemic. And so I think, uh,

915
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: or you kidding me is basically or you kidding myself?

916
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: And you know how how hatty I've been over the

917
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: over the years, Dan, so I, I guess what you're

918
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: saying is COVID nineteen is you know, led to a

919
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of self introspection, um, for all of us, and

920
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: for you it's maybe there's a cynical aspect of your

921
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: personality that you're seeing melt away, especially during the special

922
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: time of year. Dude, I've watched and this is not

923
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: an exaggeration. I've seen every single Hallmark movie, um, all

924
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: the new ones, like and basically everyone since and I

925
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: feel like the person who used to come on and

926
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: do or you kidding me has been like beaten with

927
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: a shovel and buried somewhere and he's never coming back.

928
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Like my life right now is a made up town

929
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: where happy people just walk around and like you can

930
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: live off making cookies and you know, doing you know,

931
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: doing really like wholesome things and so. But that's also

932
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: like a little bit of delirium because you're doing like

933
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: three am bottle feedings and that's the only thing that's on.

934
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: But um, I will say, like, you know, it's it's

935
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: really helped me kind of zone into a new person,

936
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: which I'm pretty psyched about. You know, I'm not sure

937
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: what to think about this. It's still processing this. What

938
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: could go wrong? Well, did you see Speaking of Hallmark movies,

939
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a Hallmark one, but

940
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: my wife and I Connor had decided to watch a

941
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: really bad straight to video type Christmas movie last weekend

942
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: and we watched the two thousand twelve Drew Lach film

943
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Guess Who's Coming to Christmas? Drew the former member of

944
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: ninety degrees, but not the hot one that married just

945
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: hot nick Um. He is a rock star living a

946
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: out of control lifestyle until one day his agent sets

947
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: him up to stay with a family for Christmas as

948
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: a image rehab maneuver, and guess what he ends up

949
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: falling in love with the girl next door. A little

950
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: bit of a spoiler alert there, but leave check it out.

951
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Guess who's coming to Christmas? If you haven't seen a

952
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Droolis some of his best work, I think, I think work.

953
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: The most unbelievable thing is like I would love to

954
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: be in the writer's room for one of these because

955
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: literally on the same night, we watched two of them

956
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: in a six hour period, and one was a country

957
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: music star, like like just a hot dude goes back

958
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: to his hometown and falls in love with the girl

959
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: and helps her save her family's pie Christmas and the

960
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: Rockies or right and then and then right after that,

961
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: a hot country singer dude goes back to a hometown

962
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: to help a girl save her family's jam business, and

963
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: like it was the same movie, they just switched the

964
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: food that he's helping bail out at the factory. And

965
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't write the same story four

966
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: times for sports listen, Like these people are just like yeah,

967
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: just make it pie instead of jam It's totally fine.

968
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, wait can you bring Erica come

969
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: back in? And Colleen too? I don't want. First of all,

970
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: we preface this by saying I'm not being sexist, but

971
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: usually that means as I asked, I asked my wife

972
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: while we were watching the Jewel Picture, you know, what

973
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: is it? Because there I believe a lot of them

974
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: are catered towards women, these Hallmark specials. What is it

975
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: about this plot, this plot device that Connor talks about

976
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: that is always about this guy, I guess you could say,

977
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: as an unattainable guy on some level coming back home

978
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: and then helping out with something and becoming a tamer

979
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: very vision of his former self and essentially settling down

980
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: with a good girl, Like why don't Why are all

981
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: these movies built out that way? Is there something inside

982
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: women like that? Or is it something that men write

983
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: the scripts and they think that's what women? Women want

984
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: to take us through the process. There, you're saying, it's

985
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: like a it's a savior that comes in and you know,

986
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: helps out everyone, and then the people that the savior

987
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: is helping out then they end up changing to their liking.

988
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: Is that is that what it is. I can't imagine

989
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: a woman wanting to to do that to a man

990
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't feel well. I guess I'm just a basic

991
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: because I love the night in shining armor formula. Yeah,

992
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: I like he. I want to be romanticized. I want

993
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm romantic. I want to be curled up on the fire.

994
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: The country music star comes home and all of a sudden,

995
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: he is a good person. He's not a jerk. You know.

996
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: He falls still change Erica. I know, I know, and

997
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wishing maybe one day. Well well, most

998
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: of the male versions of the story are just gender

999
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: bent versions of the female version, where the she leaves

1000
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: a small town, she goes to the big city. She's

1001
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: focused on her career, and then some circumstance happens where

1002
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: she has to go home. She sees the guy from

1003
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: high school who used to be a jerk, and then

1004
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: they work together on something. They fall in love. The

1005
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: old guy from New York comes back, and then she's like, no,

1006
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: I love this life and then credits. It works. It

1007
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: works both ways. I also think there must be a

1008
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Hallmark movie. There must be someone in the plot, and

1009
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: it's typically the woman. Um, you know or man, if

1010
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: it's a reverse person in the hometown, that has to

1011
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: relate to nine percent of viewers, which is I've done

1012
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: nothing remarkable with my life, so I like to think

1013
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: that some famous person will come and move in with

1014
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: me or next door and be wowed by simply my personality.

1015
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: It's a fantasy. It's every romance novel that you'd find

1016
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: at the grocery store. I wanna that that's an amazing

1017
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: I want to go back to what Colleen said that

1018
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: as I could be wrong, but was she was she

1019
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: sort of hinting at connecting these Hallmark movies, um, you know,

1020
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: with the original Christmas story our man j C. And

1021
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: like connecting it to basically organized religion in general. Yeah,

1022
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: you could connect those dots. The Savior comes in because

1023
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: everyone's better afterwards. It many of the nothing that happens

1024
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: at all in that story, right, there's some overt religious

1025
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: themes and a lot of these films as well, just

1026
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: like in the Jewels, say, picture guess who's coming home

1027
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: for Christmas? Uh he he definitely gets more involved with

1028
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: the church and and I think there's those elements of

1029
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: these stories as well. Connor Um anything else that you

1030
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: want to add, I like this, this is like a

1031
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful life situation where you you started out

1032
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: one way and now you're you're a different person who

1033
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: kind of understands all the great things he has to

1034
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: your point, like the theme this year has been like

1035
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: there's been three movies where a Catholic person and a

1036
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Jewish person get together and they teach each other their

1037
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: holiday traditions and the other person pretends like they've landed

1038
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: on a different planet and have never heard of like Hanukah,

1039
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: it's like a candle what and uh, it's just been

1040
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: like an incredible Like the guy from Ben Savage for

1041
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: Boy Meat's World was in one of them, Like uh,

1042
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: and I would say that it's just been great and

1043
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: if you can find joy in that or any of

1044
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: the other million weird hobbies that I've picked up during

1045
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: the pandemic, like uh, you know, colored pencils and like

1046
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: coloring a color a lot? Now? Really? Yeah, like that

1047
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: you've colored nearby? Like uh, like a guy buy coloring

1048
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: books like extremely an example, they're upstairs. Yeah, not a

1049
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: visual medium, but I will send you guys, yeah post,

1050
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: I can tweet them. I raised a family of sixty

1051
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: five butterflies. What happened? What's happening? Everything is totally fine.

1052
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: This was Yeah, I'm pretty My my idiot friend said,

1053
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: what does your daughter want for birthday? This was back

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Speaker 1: in the spring, and I was like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: just send er whatever, and uh, you know, he sent

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: me a classroom, a kit for two classrooms for kids

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: to grow their own butterflies. And so just at my

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Speaker 1: door one day, shows up like a like a cooler

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: full of like sixty live caterpillars shot glasses. Like I

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: have to fill them all with like two million liters

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: of food and then I have to like attach all

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00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: these little things and make them comfortable and put them

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Speaker 1: around the house where the babies don't smash them. And

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it was like it was like a six

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: week process and like my wife and I were up

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00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the morning putting these together before

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Speaker 1: they died. And uh yeah, we we raised like sixty butterflies.

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Speaker 1: Sixty freaking butterflies. Unbelievable. They were. They different colors like there,

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: you're there, you're pretty much the run of the mill orange,

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: like they're black and orange on the back. There you're

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00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: pretty like your standard Walmart butterfly They're all beautiful to you.

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Speaker 1: They're your children after all. Uh Connor, um you you've

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: knocked it out of the park and really installed Christmas

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00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: spirit at an all time level. Right now when we

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00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: thank you for stopping by and again check out Connor

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00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter and of course over at s I and

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00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. He's he's the man. We love him.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays everybody. Where are the butterflies now? I need

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Speaker 1: to know? They're just they're they're in the they have

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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: like a two week lif span. It's over there, they're

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00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: in the wall. Let them out the front door. You

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: unleash them in like mid December. Isn't that like when

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: they're typically not We let them go in in October. Yeah,

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01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: we let them go October, but I didn't right into

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Speaker 1: the heart of winter. Have a nice time. Sorry. Yeah,

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, we raised them to be strong individuals, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that was important for us too. Unbelievable Connor,

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Speaker 1: Our ladies and gentlemen, thank you Connor. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what an appearance by Connor? Would you expect anything less? Um? All? Right,

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Speaker 1: before we go, first of all, a little housekeeping on Sunday, Um,

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I you know a little bit of joy I must say.

1092
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: UM played some Scott Zolac greatest hits after the Patriots

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: were eliminated from the playoffs. We expressed a level of

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: we're a little mystified about some of the things. He

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: said something about a jelly especially we didn't tell you right,

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: And then of course the listeners came in and helped

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: us out. That is a reference from the nineteen nine

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Chevy Chase Pick your Christmas Vacation and Colleen's wearing the sweater.

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: What why is the carpet? What? Todd? I don't know, Margot,

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: So here is just so everyone knows. This is what

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: the red this is Zolak And then where the reference

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01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: comes from. It's the gift that keeps on giving. He's

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: a Jelly of the Month club one year membership, and

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: the Jelly of the Month club partner's the gift that

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: keeps on giving them a whole year. All right, there

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Speaker 1: you go, and I have one. I have one more,

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01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: a gift for everyone. But before we do that, UM,

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: anybody have final thoughts before we sign off, and reminded,

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: we have our preview episode where we go through Week

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: sixteen that will go up a day early tomorrow, so

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: you'll hear us again before Christmas. But any final thoughts

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Speaker 1: before uh, you know, the holidays. Uh, And we signed

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: off today. I'd like my boss Frank Shirley right here

1114
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: tonight from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: Lane with a big ribbon on his head. Well played,

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: well played, Greg? How about you, buddy? Oh, I don't

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: know alright Mark? Um, I would just say that it

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: has been kind of a crazy year obviously, but um,

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: we've probably logged four hours together on I'm just of

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01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: me staring at you on this computer screen I'm looking

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: at and it's it's Um, I won't think. I think

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: I'll remember this year more than any other year of

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Speaker 1: our show. It's been a very odd one, um, and

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01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: good too, So thank you for sticking along with it.

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01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: That sound a little too sincere, well said, and and

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: doing it without West has been so tough, but when

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01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: he has been able to chip in, uh, that has

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Speaker 1: made it, uh those shows extra special. It's been a

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: challenging year, but we've been able to do it together.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Patrick Laban? Yeah, I was gonna double

1131
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: down on the sincerity because I mean, we go back,

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Speaker 1: Uh if not for you guys, have not for Dave

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: Damna check like I probably never would have been on

1134
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: a podcast. And I look at obviously it took entire

1135
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: and entire social revolution for me to get a whole

1136
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity in that would have never been possible.

1137
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: Um without you guys, and like for so for like

1138
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: you Dad and you Mark and Wes and you Greg.

1139
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: Like the things that you do not just for us,

1140
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: but for everybody because has been held for so many people.

1141
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: And Uh, to be able to hear you guys talk

1142
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: about football, to facilitate this discussion about football in life.

1143
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: All the time, you guys are crushing it and you've

1144
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: always crushed it. And I appreciate you. Thank thank you

1145
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: man Greg. Last chance. It's partly because my kids are

1146
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: melting down right now and I need to be watching them.

1147
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: What um alright, So I signed off this way. I

1148
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: want to start a little tradition. Maybe it's a tradition,

1149
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. But I don't know if you're aware

1150
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: of Well, you know Rodrico Blanketship, the cults kicker he's

1151
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: having this year. Hot Rod has been killing it. Uh,

1152
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: he deserves to go to the Pro Bowl. Hell maybe

1153
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: even all Pro twenty nine thirty two field goals, thirty

1154
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: eight of forty extra points, hit another bomb this past week.

1155
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Speaker 1: What you may or may not know is that Rodrigo

1156
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Blanket ship UM has for years maintained a personal blog

1157
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: that he writes in UH in the third person, and

1158
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: if you comb your way through that blog, you will

1159
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: find his senior year of high school UH, where he

1160
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: has some comments about his time on the soccer team

1161
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: UH and how it didn't always go to plan. So

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: I call this UM and again we'll sign off with

1163
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: this and happy holidays whatever you celebrate to everyone that listens.

1164
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: But I call this a hot rod Christmas Carol headline.

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: Rodrigo senior season ends on familiar note, no playoffs, yet

1166
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: near perfect contributions from Legatron. Here we go. Rodrigo senior

1167
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: season for a Berry came to a normal conclusion for

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01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: the struggling program, as the Yellow Jackets gained no playoff

1169
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: birth and had a final record of five eleven and one,

1170
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: including a pair of meaningless victories over fellow have nots

1171
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: River Ridge and North Atlanta. After being knocked out of

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: playoff consideration by five in Osaka. However, the six one

1173
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: ninety pounder was a veritable automaton regardless of the positions

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: he was assigned to play. Even though his teammates seemed

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01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: to struggle, Rodrigo's standards of excellence were never compromised. He

1176
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: finished the season averaging well under one error per game.

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01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: His touch efficiency remained near perfect at ninety eight percent,

1178
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: and his past completion percentage rose steadily and to get

1179
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: more than after completing more than eighty percent of his

1180
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: passes over the final three games. Removed from the central

1181
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: midfield spot he had occupied for the previous two varsity seasons,

1182
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: Rodriguez became an immovable objected right back while his teammates

1183
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: appeared to struggle in the midfield. For the season, Rodrigo

1184
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: was dispossessed only once for a grand total of two

1185
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: for the entire three seasons of varsity contribution competition for Legatron,

1186
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: a nickname coined for him by a Georgia Bulldog football

1187
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: fan excited about the upcoming false season and Athens, a

1188
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: long season of frustration ended ironically on the bench, he

1189
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: was headbutted by a North Atlanta player while clearing a

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01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: ball out of the penalty area, sending him to the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: For the last six minutes of his career. Diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: a mild concussion. M Merry Christmas, everybody right un