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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for grabbing a bye with me on

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Speaker 1: Table for two. We're back at the Tower Bar, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about our lunch today. This time around,

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Speaker 1: we're sitting down with a man who's one of a kind.

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Speaker 1: He's stylish, charming, and his work spands multiple generations.

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Speaker 2: He's been in huge movies, from.

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Speaker 1: The Fly to Jurassic Park to his work with Wes Anderson.

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Speaker 1: He also happens to be an amazing jazz musician.

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Speaker 3: If you throw yourself on the mercy of the server,

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Speaker 3: they might be helpful. I'll take it a cucumber gimlet

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Speaker 3: with fresh line club soda muddled cucumber. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: come on, I love poetry, menu poetry.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we're having lunch with mister Jeff Goboom. This

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Speaker 1: is my first time meeting him, and I know it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a blast. So pull up a chair,

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Speaker 1: ground a glass of rose, and I hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 2: You're saying secret fries, secret fries. I heard secret, secret,

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Speaker 2: secret five.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're saying. Yeah, well, this is the second

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Speaker 4: time I'm a color me gobsmacked.

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Speaker 1: I'm Bruce Bozzi and this is my podcast Table for two.

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Speaker 2: If you pulled up a chair.

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Speaker 5: Today we are here at the Tower Bar with the incomparable,

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Speaker 5: the amazing Jeff Goldblum.

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Speaker 2: Hello, sir, Hello sir.

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Speaker 5: So like you got to New York from Pittsburgh in

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Speaker 5: the early seventies, what was the line that took you

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Speaker 2: I know you studied at the Neighborhood Playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Which I did a summer program there in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 4: I didn't you know.

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Speaker 5: That Gary was the dance guy who Gary and called

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Speaker 5: him Showtime Gary. They did like they would just do

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Speaker 5: like a two month program. You guys did the two

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Speaker 5: year program.

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Speaker 2: Did you do the two year program?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we But I left after a little bit into

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Speaker 3: the second year. You had to get invited back into

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Speaker 3: the second year. I graduated high school in seventy I

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Speaker 3: went right there, and but in between the first and

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Speaker 3: second year it was Sandy Meisner still teaching before his

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Speaker 3: lay injectomy. Also, wow, that's a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know. He was great. And between the two years,

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Speaker 3: I fell into a production of Two Gentlemen of Verona, the.

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Speaker 4: Musical version, and that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: And then I went back to the second years, invited

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Speaker 3: invited me to do the Broadway show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is like kind of a huge deal.

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Speaker 5: So you're like a young guy, you want to be

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Speaker 2: It's one of Tony, not.

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Speaker 4: Me, But yes, the show Tony.

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Speaker 3: It was the biggest tip at the Shakes New York

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Speaker 2: Whatever in nineteen seventy four.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy four was the Tony winning was.

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Speaker 2: The show on nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 3: I'll bet it was earlier than that, because I let

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Speaker 3: me see, it was so seventy one.

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Speaker 4: I must have joined the cast.

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Speaker 3: At the Della Courte that's where we did it originally,

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Speaker 3: and it was with Rabul and Julia, you know, and

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Speaker 4: The show Business early on, Yeah, you know, I'd.

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Speaker 3: Never I didn't audition for that show like the one

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Speaker 3: Is the is the program which I felt deprived of.

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Speaker 2: All right. We were talking about I'll tell you anything.

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Speaker 2: About New York. You got the Broadway show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just fell into things. I fell in your

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Speaker 3: No, I better look for a job. I guess I'm

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Speaker 3: although the two year program in the Meisner way is

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Speaker 4: And I did. I did More Wish and then next.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Nashville is like a cult classic. It just

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting. So you have Altman, you have very

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Speaker 4: So we wound up doing just that little thing in.

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Speaker 4: I did Beyond Therapy.

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Speaker 4: I know a little bit more now.

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Speaker 3: We did that, and then I had a little part

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Speaker 4: He was an independent filmmaker.

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Speaker 3: He was the ad I think on Nashville, but then

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Speaker 3: did movies like Welcome to La And we did a

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Speaker 3: movie called Remember My Name, Alfrey Woods first movie, and

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Speaker 3: Geraldine Chaplin was in it, and Tony Parkins.

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Speaker 4: Really was in it. Okay, believe it or not, you

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Speaker 4: know Tony. Yeah, of course he was married to Barry Barons. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: sister of Marissa, which takes us to Barry Lyndon.

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Speaker 4: But with those things.

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Speaker 3: And then likewise, Philip Kaufman, you didn't mention I did.

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Speaker 3: I did in nineteen seventy eight, now still early Hnish

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Speaker 2: That's what I must do. And that's great. You didn't

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Speaker 4: It's a nice way of saying, I think what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: you stay relevant generationally. There are people my age, are

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Speaker 4: Well, again, it's luck. Luck.

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Speaker 4: So that's all wild wild luck.

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Speaker 3: But I have some kind of particular I do enjoy

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Speaker 3: But miss Veblin in fourth grade sent home my report

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Speaker 5: Think you probably they do not, jeff they do not.

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Speaker 5: You have a very do you have a way about

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Speaker 5: Is there an influence, an early influence from a movie

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Speaker 3: Well, my parents, you know, both had flirted with, you know,

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Speaker 4: So they exposed us to that. And then children's theater.

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Speaker 4: Are they doing?

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Speaker 4: Who aren't who is that? And what are they doing?

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Speaker 4: How do they do that? Et cetera et cetera, like

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Speaker 3: And then by the time I went to Carnegie Mellon

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Speaker 4: Please God let me be an actor.

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Speaker 4: And then it was a secret.

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Speaker 4: It was like secret Fries. It was like my secret fries.

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Speaker 4: I've attracted the luck that was to happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you put it in the universe. It's like

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Speaker 3: Something like that, And I was a hard worker, even

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Speaker 4: It was like.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to table for two. Jeff's time on the

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Speaker 1: silver screen spans generations, and yet his acting always feels

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Speaker 1: new and exciting. I'm curious what has changed for him

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Speaker 5: So looking at your work, you have the seventies, have

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Speaker 2: Me how movies and everything changed.

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Speaker 5: So like, you know, you have your major the nineties,

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Speaker 5: Jurassic Park. You go into the eighties, your films like

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Speaker 5: I can remember where I was when I saw The

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Speaker 5: Ye where second efty second Avenue, There's a big building

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Speaker 4: Well, I used to go.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: I was on the Upper east Side, and my theater

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Speaker 5: Too, you know, you know they were all there, all

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Speaker 5: those like independent little theaters. Films changed, and you sort

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Speaker 5: Movies that you in your career that you go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: seem artificial, of course, you know, because they're you know,

446
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 3: case by case basis, like many interesting movies and different

447
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 3: kinds of movies across the decades. But it's a fun

448
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: It is a fun way to play the car, you know,

449
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: movie character continuum game, and you know the seventies. Of

450
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 3: course one says, ooh that was an I And if

451
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm scrolling around, I find myself going.

452
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 4: Movies are the seventies if there's anything that.

453
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 3: I've missed or want to see again, because I will

454
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: want to and find myself attracted that.

455
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 5: So do you have a big posse of actors that

456
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 5: you are friends with that you or is it you

457
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 5: know you've worked with everybody, you are with a lot

458
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 5: of people. Do you keep in touch with all these

459
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 5: people like, I mean each It's like when you're making

460
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: a movie, it's such it seems like it's such a

461
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 5: closed experience, like a family.

462
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: You know, yes, an intimate and intense and sometimes yeah.

463
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: And do you delicious right?

464
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: Do you keep that going or does it sort of?

465
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: And then that's.

466
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: An interesting question. You know, I don't have a lot.

467
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Of close, close, daily contact pals with whom I've worked

468
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: in the past, which is normal, that's not abnormal. As

469
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, my life now is so and

470
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: this if there's any kind of key to or element

471
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: to that contributes to my you know, still getting chances

472
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: here and there, it's the fact that I'm still, like

473
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: early on, kind of interested in life in some way.

474
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: And I have these kids now, and this fantastic wife

475
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 3: and this interesting life, nourishing life that keeps me.

476
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: Did you want to have children?

477
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 5: Was it like when you were because you know, Charley

478
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 5: and Rivers, so you said eight.

479
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: And eight and six turned seventh, eight seventh.

480
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: So we have a sixteen year old and sixteen year yes, yes,

481
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: and we have a and then we have I have

482
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: a stepdaughter, Billy, who has two small children.

483
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: So it's like there's grandchildren involved.

484
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 5: Did you when you were like in the you know,

485
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: all those fun decades, Yes, were you thinking family children

486
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: or were you just like and then all of a sudden.

487
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: I had wonderful I had wonderful relationships and marriages, a

488
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 3: couple of marriages, and there was talk of children. But

489
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: I get but it didn't happen. I guess I wasn't.

490
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: Not that I never ever tried, I ever tried with anybody,

491
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: but I think perhaps, and it's probably true that I

492
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: wasn't so called ready. And then Emily and I got together,

493
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: and here's what happened. Not to be too intimate, but

494
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: let me see, here's what happened. We were together for

495
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 3: a couple of years, and.

496
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 4: Then one day at home, she was saying, boy.

497
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: This is so it's getting so this has been so

498
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: fun and it's so kind of great, and wouldn't it

499
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: be interesting and maybe fun to have a baby. And

500
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't choked up like I'm getting now a little bit,

501
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: but I was like something about the way about you

502
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: and about us right now, and about the way you

503
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: just said that it's never been so to me before,

504
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: like just like that, And I immediately thought she we

505
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: should go together to see my therapist, Lewanda Katzman, and

506
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: kind of talk have a serious talk about what you

507
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 3: just said, which we did over the course of the

508
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: next year. Uh, and talked about marriage and and things

509
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: and about all my you know, because I let's be

510
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: you know, let's really explore it. If we're going to

511
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: do this, this isn't something serious business.

512
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 4: And we and we did. She was great, lou Katzman,

513
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: and after I think about a year, she was.

514
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: Like, Jesus's Emily is very particularly wonderful in my if

515
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: you want my opinion, and you know, and maybe this

516
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: idea of having kids, so we so we we It

517
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: became clear it revealed itself to be a good idea.

518
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: And then we got married at the Chateau Marmont, I'll

519
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: be darned.

520
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: And Lewanda Catzman was she she got registered, she got

521
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: whatever it's called, and she was our she she she officiated, Yeah, officiated,

522
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: that's what it was called.

523
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 4: She officiated.

524
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: And so it was really sweet. So it wasn't just like, oh,

525
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: I don't know whoever these guys are. They say, we

526
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 3: had one meeting and they they're right for each other,

527
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: so go go ahead.

528
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: No.

529
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: No, she was like, yes, I know, Jeff, because I'd

530
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: been seeing her for not as needed, sort of once

531
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: a year, but early on more often, but knew her

532
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: for over a decade or so, and and she was, yes,

533
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: these these, these two, and Kaganga.

534
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: Was a lovely sorry.

535
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: And I have to say, I think Charlie River are

536
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: very lucky. Do you have a lot of fun with them?

537
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 5: I mean that's crazy great.

538
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a great, great mother.

539
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's amazing in many many ways as a mother,

540
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: she's just great. We have a spectacular amount of fun.

541
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: But also, as you know, the whole.

542
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: Palette of experience this morning, oh my gosh.

543
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: There was I woke up, I had a good night's sleep,

544
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: but sometimes after a good night's sleep, your body is like,

545
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: you know, still recovery, still, you know, now, I know

546
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: now I'm feeling kind of bushy tailed, but it's but

547
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: early on I was like, oh, I felt ludgend and

548
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: sensitive and not ready for I had to launch into breakfast.

549
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: And the whole.

550
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: Schedule today was chock full of many things. And I

551
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: have an obligation to get my homework done. I have

552
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: a piano homework, an hour's study that I have to do,

553
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: and I work out and and other things to do,

554
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: so you know it's gonna be and she's choc bowl.

555
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Every day needs to be productive. But the kids, yes,

556
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: they well, they had a good they had a good

557
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: time today, but early on so but they're studying piano,

558
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: for instance. So we get breakfast and there's breakfast happening,

559
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: and Charlie makes my coffee sometimes.

560
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: Nice, isn't that something?

561
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

562
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: I love the little coffee that he makes for which

563
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: he did this morning.

564
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 4: And they liked task, and they're good. But they were

565
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: they were at each other this morning. Oh that's right.

566
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: I still is feeling very tender. And Emily.

567
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: Was already attending to get one one breakfast of some kind.

568
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: And we heard them screaming and fighting, and she said, chef, cheff,

569
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: go go, go see what's uh? And when she gives

570
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: me a task, I'm you go. I comply, Yes, yes

571
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: I go, even though it was painful, I knew what

572
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: it might entail, and so I launched him there.

573
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: And sure enough I saw them in their room and

574
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: what was going on at this stuff?

575
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: They were having some It seemed like some kind of

576
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: half game that Charlie was playing. Is bigger two, almost

577
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: two years older than River. With River wanted some clothes

578
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 3: that he wanted to put on. They were naked, half naked,

579
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: and he wanted to put on some clothes from the hamper.

580
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: They were already in the hamper, and I don't know

581
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: if they were Charlie's clothes or his clothes or but

582
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: he was Charlie was, you know, opposing him right, and

583
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: he had these big kind of yoga pillows, hard kind

584
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: of pillows that he was bashing at him, and so

585
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: they were having a major joust and I kind of, oh.

586
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: My gosh, and so there was screaming.

587
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't exactly screaming Greek tragedy yet level, but it

588
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: was getting there, half fun and half.

589
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: You know, so I kind of had to intervene a

590
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: little bit. I got but ow dow, Charlie, you got

591
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: me on my et cetera, et cetera. And then I,

592
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: after some time, I kind of, you know, gave up.

593
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: I did some wrestling, and then they were running into

594
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: the other room and thankfully engaging mamal et cetera, et cetera. Anyway,

595
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: that cycle passed. So there's all that to say that

596
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: there's cilarity and amazement, but also the whole range.

597
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: Of you got.

598
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: In addition to being an amazing actor, Jeff Goldblum is

599
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: also a very talented pianist. He released his first album

600
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and it's obvious that his love of

601
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: jazz runs deep. What inspired him to pursue a career

602
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: in music?

603
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: Jazz is such a love of yours.

604
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: And you have an orchestra and you've played at the Carlisle, Like,

605
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: how did music? And we're at the tower board where

606
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: there's a piano which no one's allowed to touch except played

607
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: you've played.

608
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, because we've stayed here, we've had a little

609
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: staycation right right or twice and they've allowed me to

610
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: do it.

611
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: The music in your life and your love of jazz

612
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: and you played the piano and you're an incredible pianist.

613
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 5: How did that enter was there? Was music always part

614
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: of your life growing up?

615
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: Did you?

616
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: I mean you just seem to, like, from my perspective,

617
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: you want to do something, you do it and you're

618
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: successful at it, like you you know you want your musical,

619
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 5: your artistic You're.

620
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Tell you know you just like this. You're the renaissance man.

621
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: So how did music get into Well, I'll tell you.

622
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. You know, they gave us like parents

623
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: might have. But you know, with four kids in Pittsburgh.

624
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: They gave it. They exposed us all this is delicious.

625
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: By the way, I just had that chicken, which is good, nice,

626
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: and I like this whole thing, and I.

627
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: Like it chopped. I like things chopped. I like that

628
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: chop sound. Is there cucumber in here? By the way,

629
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: I don't think, yes, yes, a little bit, but I've

630
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: had it.

631
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: You're great, there is.

632
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: I like it and mozzarella and chickpeas, and I've had

633
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: many times.

634
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: I like it. The here's what happened. So they gave

635
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: us music lessons. I had some facility for it, but

636
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: like a little like ARLEYN. River was like, oh, I

637
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: don't want to.

638
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: Probably didn't know the joys of discipline yet or homework

639
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: and would be unprepared for the weekly lesson.

640
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: And it was a miserable thing. But then he gave

641
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: me jazz.

642
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: He gave me a couple of jazz arrangements, and that

643
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: really turned me on, and I sat and played until

644
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: I could play those things. That's when I started to

645
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: get a little better. And then I got these fake

646
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: books now they call them real books, you know of

647
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: jazz heads, lead sheets that you could play and learn

648
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: how to improvise from and I fashioned my you know,

649
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: I thought, well, I want to play piano, and I

650
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: want to go to a cocktail lounge and play piano.

651
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: But my parents loved loved jazz and loved music.

652
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: And only would they would they come back and with

653
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: cast albums and Broadway musicals. But Errol Garner his record

654
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: Who's from Pittsburgh in sixty whatever, it was misty. You know,

655
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: Garder plays misty. He would be on the High File

656
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: all the time. So I fell for jazz this way.

657
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: And I was just kind of in me a little

658
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: bit syncopation and that kind of stuff.

659
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: And I started to play. And then I.

660
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: One day I went, I'm going to get a job, job,

661
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to look I took the Yellow Pages secretly also,

662
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, with this secret Life of Men and on

663
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: the Secret Fries and not only my acting aspiration, but

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Speaker 3: my this. I went into the study and kind of

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Speaker 3: closed the door and looked through this thing and got

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Speaker 3: on the telephone when I was when I was, I

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Speaker 3: forget how old, you know, it must have been twelve

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Speaker 3: or thirteen, and started and started to cold call places,

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Speaker 3: starting with A and say, hey, I hear you, you're

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Speaker 3: looking for a piano player there. Yeah, And most of

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Speaker 3: them would say, well, I don't know where you got that.

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Speaker 3: We don't even have a piano. But but some would say, well,

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Speaker 3: who's this what? Yeah, we do have a piano, no

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Speaker 3: where he plays it, but maybe you should come around

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Speaker 3: and play it.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. I did a couple of things and I

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Speaker 4: got a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Jobs out of here.

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Speaker 3: So it was not only yes, I had this. I

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Speaker 3: had this part of me that was like, hey I can. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not really qualified, but I'm going to try it

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Speaker 3: kind of thing for no reason and a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a I think I need a job, which is

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Speaker 3: pretty important now that I'm raising kids. Yeah, I'm no

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Speaker 3: you know, conventionalist, but I know the system that we're in,

686
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Speaker 3: and I think sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: But I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to scare them. They should figure out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love the creative life. It saved my life.

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Speaker 3: But also this idea that hey, you know, you got

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Speaker 3: to row your own boat.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Among to teach kids.

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Speaker 3: Most people don't, right right, I mean, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to do it for you, and you're not gonna want

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Speaker 3: me to do it for you. You gotta figure out

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Speaker 3: how to find out what's wanted and needed and where

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Speaker 3: that intersects with your love and passion and what you

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Speaker 3: can do, and even if it doesn't, you might have

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Speaker 3: to do that anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all of that, you know, conversation.

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: So I think I had that luckily in me a

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Speaker 3: little bit, like I better. Hey, I remember the day

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Speaker 3: my parents were saying, yes, you've got to at some point,

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Speaker 3: what are you going to do or what you got

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: to have a job? And I was a little bit shocked,

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Speaker 3: and I think maybe a little sobered or frightened or something,

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00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: and I went, oh, okay, I got it. And I

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Speaker 3: think I took it on board and took it seriously,

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Speaker 3: and maybe that got me even at that moment, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I need to because I'm going to make a little

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Speaker 3: cash doing this too.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there was that.

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00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: And then, like I say, I got real lucky with acting,

715
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: not like anybody else I've ever heard of. I just

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00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: fell into a job right away. I'm kind of an

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00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: income right away a little bit. So there's that. So

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00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: who knows what I could have been capable of or

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Speaker 3: had I not been so lucky, But maybe I have

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Speaker 3: that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I've had so much fun spending time with mister Goldblum.

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: He's constantly working on new projects. So before we leave,

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Speaker 1: let's find out what he has coming up.

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Speaker 5: You have Wicked and Wicked two twenty four, twenty five

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00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 5: is Wicked too?

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Speaker 2: You have Chaos?

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00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do you know anything about that?

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00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Chaos comes out in August Wow for Netflix, eight episodes

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Speaker 3: of an updated version of the Greek Yeah character as

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00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: I play Zeus and Janet McTeer, the Great Jedi Tier

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Speaker 3: plays my wife.

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Speaker 4: Here David Thulis plays my brother Hades.

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Speaker 2: Yeh, it's I loved mythology.

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Speaker 4: Something well great, I might dig this.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Wicked is this huge phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: Like when they played that commercial during the super Bowl

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Speaker 5: and you're you also had an epic commercial turning the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl. It was like everyone stopped in the room.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel the energy around this?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: I have project of you.

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: Yes. I've become aware of the fan base, you know,

745
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: because I am part of part of it.

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Speaker 4: I saw Christian Chadwick and.

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Originally before I knew anything about it, I was like, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a book.

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Speaker 2: And who knew of the prequel, didn't even ow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: I went into that theater, you know, and they had

752
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: drawn picture, they had painted the lobby, and I went, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: this is about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm a goner. It really got a sucker for

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: that because The Wizard was.

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Speaker 3: I love that movie, and sure enough, at the end

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00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: of that thing, I was crying my eyes out. I

758
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: mean and since then and then when this came up.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, you don't play the Wizard.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't think of a better person to cast than

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Speaker 5: you and that movie and this is going to be

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Speaker 5: like next level.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I I hope everybody's happy with it.

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Speaker 3: Wait till you see Ariana Grande and Cynthia Revo.

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: You know, are you a fan of that show?

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00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Yes? Well, and they both.

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Speaker 3: Do yeah great, And you know, and John Chu is

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Speaker 3: the perfect person. I directed that. Wait till you hear

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Speaker 3: them do that music and Michelle Oh, of course, Jonathan Bailey.

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Speaker 4: But wait till you hear them do that.

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Speaker 2: It is show. Yeah, my buddy Joe Mantello, he directed it.

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Speaker 4: It's your buddy.

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00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh. I've heard all the legendary stories about how it

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: was birthed in San Francisco and the development of it

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Speaker 3: and I mean drama.

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Speaker 2: Very crazy.

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Speaker 5: As we sort of conclude our lunch, first of all,

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Speaker 5: this has been beyond joyful.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming years.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so so much, like thank.

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Speaker 2: You lupping it down to the tower.

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Speaker 4: And we're going to be closer than when you were.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming, Emily, Brian. We have to have

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay in constant touch, let's exchange all, exchange everything.

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Speaker 4: And have many many eventually.

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Speaker 5: And if you've pulled up a chure, like I said,

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Speaker 5: we hit a wild ride today with you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thank you very very much.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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