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Speaker 1: famous podcasts with on our radio. Oh Ashley, still gallivanting

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Speaker 1: around somewhere far far away, you know, having love, share

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Speaker 1: of the people that I love the most is now

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Speaker 1: co hosting this podcast with me this week. Wells Adams, Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Wells Adams. If you have never heard of him is

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Speaker 1: an incredibly attractive man, uh, funny, charismatic, empathetic, good listener, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to have them this week. But well,

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Speaker 1: as I'm gonna ask one thing of you, I want

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Speaker 1: Be mean, okay, but can you do that? Yeah? But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if UM you wanting me to speak

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Speaker 1: UM we started recording. Wells and I were just talking

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Speaker 1: His wife listen to podcast He doesn't read. He listens

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Speaker 1: to audible books. Do we consider that reading. No, but

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Speaker 1: listen to my podcast, and then I listened to books

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Speaker 1: last season against Chicken. Remember, Chicken was kind of like

429
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: chipping away at his relationship with with Jenna, kind of

430
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: always kind of being annoying. So he brought Jenna this

431
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: giant teddy bear or dog or whatever, and Jordan's in

432
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: that crazy floral one piece, walks out and grabs a

433
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: dog and throws it into the ocean. And because he

434
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: read the room and he knew that kind of like

435
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Chicken was in on the joke, he like Chicken never

436
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: really cared. Um, Chicken was just always kind of kind

437
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: of messing with Jordan and never was taking it seriously.

438
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: Now Jordan does the exact same thing right now. His

439
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: big moment last year was se him throwing this giant

440
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: dog into the ocean. So he's like, all right, if

441
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: it worked before, it'll work again. I'm gonna go throw

442
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: this giant pinata into the ocean. His problem is that

443
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: he didn't read the room very well, because Christian doesn't

444
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: is not in on the joke. He's like, dude, don't

445
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: mess my piniata, Like that's messed up right, And unfortunately

446
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: things go really really wrong. And the truth is that

447
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: that was a like in real time, that was a

448
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: very scary moment. That was the like the Joe and

449
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: Leo fight was not as um as not as scary

450
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: as that one. Because the way that Jordan brings Christian down,

451
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: he could have really hurt Christian, like million dollar baby

452
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: style off of that um that little day bed. There's

453
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: a step there that I don't even know if you

454
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: see when you're watching on TV. He could hit his head.

455
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: He could have done something and it could have been

456
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: really really bad. Also confirm or disconfirmed, did Jordan's like

457
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: wrestle in high school, because that was a pretty a

458
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: pretty crazy move he pulled on Christian. A lot of

459
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: anger was behind that move, Like, yeah, I only am

460
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: able to pull off that move with any other man

461
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: if like I have in a drone on adrenaline rush

462
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: of anger that has been built up for a bit. Yeah.

463
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: And then and then if you thought that, like there

464
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: was a lot of pent up aggression and anger with

465
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: Jordan's then all of a sudden, Christian is on PCP

466
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: and he's like able to like turn over a VW bug.

467
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: Seventeen million producers and security guards jump on him and

468
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: he's like a grease pig out there. He gets away

469
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: and and we were like, oh my god. And there

470
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: was a moment. If you watch that episode, you see

471
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: me run out and I run about fifteen feet and

472
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: then I say to myself, what the hell am I doing?

473
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: What am I gonna be able to do? I'm gonna

474
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: go back to the bar, And then I got there.

475
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: But you give it a good tempt. I appreciate the

476
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, those are scary moments. It's like you said,

477
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: I think even watching the episode, I felt like Christian

478
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: did hit his head on my step. I don't know

479
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: if he did or not, but this is something built

480
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: up to where all of a sudden, the whole energy

481
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: of Paradise has to change. Do you feel like these

482
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: moments connect the cast or do they contin like do

483
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: they isolate the cast even more? You know, I don't know.

484
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like Christian was so new to the scene

485
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: that I don't think anyone cared either way about him

486
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: coming or going. I think for Jordan's he's known as

487
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of the guy that kind of does this stuff.

488
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: So everyone was just like, I mean, you know, it's

489
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: car it's par for the course, I suppose. Um. I

490
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: remember last year with the Joe Leo fight, it definitely

491
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: brought everybody together, like there was a bad guy and

492
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: a good guy and everyone knew which side to be on. Um,

493
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: this one was just kind of it was just it

494
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: was just odd in in general and like really kind

495
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: of scary. So I don't know, I didn't love that

496
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: Jordan did that, and I just wish that if he

497
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: had done it, he had done it in a floral

498
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: one piece again. You know, I really, I really do

499
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: though this. I mean, there is humor to me. As

500
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: scary as the moment was, there was humor to me

501
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: and watching all the guys sit on the day bed

502
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: and watch us go down, including Clay. Like you said,

503
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Clay could have ended this thing at any

504
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: moment if he wanted to, and they sat there, and

505
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: I do think at some level Clay was saying, well,

506
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm a football player. I've seen aggression, I've seen violence

507
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 1: like this isn't scary for me. I've been around it

508
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: most of my career, and what ever is happening here

509
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: is ultimately going to end up really good for me.

510
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: And I want to tie this then into the Hannah,

511
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: Gy and Blake scenario with Dylan. While I'm watching this

512
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: episode and while I'm watching the cocktail party, Dylan feels

513
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: like he's opposite of Clay and to where he's watching

514
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: from a distance and seeing this go down with Hannah

515
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: and Blake and going this isn't good for me. Something

516
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: here is happening that is ultimately not going to end

517
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: up in my favor, especially why Blake is, you know,

518
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: having all these Mariachi band singers come out and play

519
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: for him at any point? For you, did you doubt

520
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: that Dylan and Hannah were ultimately going to be standing

521
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: together at the end of that night. Yes, I doubted

522
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: it for a while. I I would say that the

523
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: guy that I gave the most advice to was Dylan

524
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: because I could really relate to the guy that was

525
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: like going after the girl that's like probably way out

526
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: of his leg and I was just like, all right,

527
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: these are things you gotta do to make this workout

528
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: for you. That the problem was that there was what

529
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: would that advice? Ben? I want to what what what

530
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: are some things that you would do to get to

531
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: back somewhere, to land somebody way out of your league? Um,

532
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta go look at like early

533
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: tweets between Sarah and I supposed to figure out exactly

534
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: what I did. A lot of my stuff for him

535
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: was like this is gonna be hard for you. And

536
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: I think that that the thing that you're gonna be

537
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: able to that you're gonna have to do if you

538
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: want to come out on top, is you're gonna have

539
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: to be steady Eddie this entire time, and you're going

540
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: to go through the ringer and it's gonna be bad

541
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: because guess what, she's like the queen of Paradise right now,

542
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: Like if there if you could embody what Paradise looks

543
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: like it's Hannah Gye and like just beautiful, supermodel blonde

544
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 1: walking on the beach. Like you gotta know that if

545
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: you're going after the thing that's almost unattainable, everyone else

546
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be going after it. Two, So you gotta

547
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: be chill, um. And that's like in that episode where

548
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: he's like watching them make out and I was like, dude,

549
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: turn around, look at me. Don't watch this anymore because

550
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: it's just gonna get in your head. And we had

551
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations like just be chill, Just

552
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: be chill. The issue is is that Dylan didn't really

553
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: have a relationship with Hannah before the show, and we

554
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: find out on the show that Blake, you know, had

555
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: gone out to Birmingham and they had kind of like

556
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: started this thing. And so unfortunately Dylan, even though like

557
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: she was she was into him, he was starting further

558
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: back in the blocks. You know. Yeah, yeah, Blake was

559
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: was was already got like a like a hundred yard

560
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: start on it, and so that was tough and we

561
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: all knew that was going to be an issue for

562
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: and that's why I was like, just keep with it,

563
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, like don't blow up and and maybe things

564
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: will work out for you, And so far they have.

565
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: The part that stresses me out well is and I

566
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: want to hear your advice on this because I watched

567
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: this for Allan and then we're rooting for Dylan. You

568
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: told me that Dylan is uh one of the best

569
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: men you've ever met, and so as a result, I'll

570
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: trust that and I'll cheer for him. And like you said,

571
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: Blake isn't about I'm not rooting against Blake here. I

572
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: know Blake, and I think he made some really terrible

573
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: decisions and I don't think he thought it through, but

574
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad guy. Um. But and

575
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm completely off. I watch it right

576
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: now and I see Dylan chasing, and I see Dylan pursuing,

577
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: and I see him being uh steady in his thought.

578
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: But I'm almost stressed for him because I know in

579
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: my relationship now how comfortable and confident I am in it,

580
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Like there isn't an anxiety of oh my gosh, once

581
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: she's gonna leave me, or am I you know I'm

582
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: gonna wake up today and she's no longer gonna like me,

583
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: or she's no longer gonna think I'm decent as a

584
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: human like I don't have those fears, And it's the

585
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: best part of my relationship, and it's the best part

586
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: of I think any committed relationship. When does that happen

587
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: when you are pursuing somebody at such a high level

588
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: where they are a little bit unattainable bowl when does

589
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: that switch? Does it ever switch? Does it? Is it

590
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna switch for Dylan where he's gonna be confident and

591
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: comfortable in this relationship with Hannah. I mean the piece

592
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: of advice that I gave him a lot that I

593
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: don't think he ever followed, but it you know, that's fine,

594
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: was you gotta play it cool a little bit more

595
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: than you're doing. Like there was a part of me

596
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: that was like, you're you're on her hip a lot.

597
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: He would say things like look how hot she is,

598
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Look look how beautiful all the time, which is a

599
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to hear. But but that's also the truth

600
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: is that like women also like a little bit of

601
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: a chase and like a little bit of mystery and stuff,

602
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: And so I just want to reiterate that to him.

603
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that if Dylan

604
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: was if it doesn't work out for Dylan and Hannah,

605
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been a Dylan problem. It would have

606
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: been a Hannah problem, because he did and to this

607
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: point has done everything right. You know, He's he's been like,

608
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm only here for you. If it's not, I'm gonna

609
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: go home. It's fine. Like, um, he has that phenomenal

610
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: line of like, this isn't about this isn't about like

611
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: getting you this summer. It's about like getting you after

612
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: the summer and forever. So I butchered what he said.

613
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: He did much more eloquently, and it was like you're

614
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: saying all the right things. Um, So I got nothing

615
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: but respect and mad love for Dylan. Like that's the

616
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: problem with this season is there's not a lot of heroes.

617
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of kind of okay people and and

618
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: villains for the most part, And like it was a

619
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air to have a guy like Dylan

620
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: in there doing the thing that I think that all

621
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: women hope that all men do for them. You know, yeah, yeah,

622
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: And I think this is and we'll get into it

623
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I do think there's a turning

624
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: point in this episode where I do start to feel

625
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: like there's some heroes out there. But before we get

626
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: to that, I want to talk for a second about

627
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: how this cocktail party ended. And I think those are

628
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: the two main themes that we should discuss. Is the

629
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Blake Dylan Hannah drama along with the fight um. But

630
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: here's how the cocktail party ended. Demi picks Derek, Katie

631
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: picks Chris, Nicole picks Clay, Kaitlin picks Dean. Obviously, Tasha

632
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: picks J p J, which is one of the most

633
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: surprising relationships in the Paradise so far, one that I

634
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: do enjoy. Uh. Sidney picks Mike, Hannah picks Dylan, and

635
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and a turn of events I think I don't know

636
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: if it was made up for TV or not, but

637
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: it felt like it was a probably as a friend,

638
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: a good moment for Blake because it humbled him to

639
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: know that he needs to kind of readjust his approach

640
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: and thought process and that the time spent with anybody

641
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: before the show might not be in his favor now,

642
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: and so it it is a little bit of the

643
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a lot of build up,

644
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and we unfortunately even did on almost famous podcast where

645
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: we really built up the Hannah and Blake relationship. We

646
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: built them both up to be that unattainable figure in Paradise.

647
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: They both went in to it, I think, expecting to

648
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of be the king and Queen of Paradise. And

649
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: I think we see in this moment almost where Blake

650
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: gives up that thought that he is going to be

651
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: the king of Paradise, and I actually believe it's going

652
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: to be in his favor. Yeah, I think I think

653
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: the thing that Blake's needs the most is like a

654
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: little bit of humble pie. Um. And I kind of

655
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: equate Blake to Dean from a couple of years ago.

656
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: And the problem is that I don't think that Blake

657
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: has done anything wrong really. I mean, he's a single guy.

658
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: He could have done things a little bit better. If

659
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: you're going on a reality TV show with a bunch

660
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: of women, maybe don't hook up of all of them

661
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: before you know you go on there. But like you know,

662
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: like you said, he didn't kill anybody, he didn't rob anybody,

663
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: like he didn't really do anything really really bad. Um,

664
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that, like your actions don't follow

665
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: you around, right, And I thought that Dean couple of

666
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: years ago. His whole thing was like, well, I'm being

667
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: so honest. I'm telling everyone. I'm telling everyone the truth

668
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: about me, so I can't be the bad guy. Well

669
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: you can tell everyone the truth and still be kind

670
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: of an ass, right, And I think that Dean needed

671
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: to watch that back to be like, WHOA, I need

672
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: a course correct a little bit, like I need to

673
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: work on some things. And I think that as as

674
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: bad as it's looking for Blake, I think this is

675
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: ultimately gonna be a good thing because he's gonna learn

676
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot about himself and how to carry himself

677
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: like going forward, you know. Yeah, And with Hannah and Dylan,

678
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that you see it. It was a couple

679
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: episodes beforehand where Hannah comes to me and we talk

680
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: and I say the thing to her of like there

681
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: seems to be this thing that you can't shake with Blake,

682
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: but you need to make a decision at this point,

683
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: And that was a conversation we had, like she was like,

684
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to do in terms of

685
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony me and I think that she she

686
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: had to make some tough decisions and figure out like

687
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: what it was really going to make her happy and

688
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: then she did it. But I agree with you, like

689
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that everyone just wants some clarity, right, and

690
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Blake got it after that road ceremony. It's gotta be

691
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: a tough it's gotta be a tough position for Hannah.

692
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: And I also wonder how Blake. I mean, I think

693
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: we've all seen that Blake is struggling with this. He

694
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: was definitely, I mean, even from the other cast members.

695
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of support on his side

696
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: as we watch his show back, and I think it's

697
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a really hard lesson to learn, But I

698
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: do I am excited to see how Blake moves on

699
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be able to see it. Christina chose

700
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Blake uh in a fashion that you know, I don't

701
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: know if she had anybody else to choose. I don't

702
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: think she was feeling anything with anybody else. He's gonna

703
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: be around for a few more weeks. It will be

704
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: intriguing to see how his story plays out, if he

705
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: is able to kind of take a step back, and

706
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: if the asked around him as able to support him

707
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: at all, because so far, yeah, they started out not

708
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: on his team and as we speak today, then on

709
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: on his team and he's watching this back and I

710
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: don't think he expected to not be on anybody else's team. Hey,

711
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: the guys that got sent home this week, Cam, I

712
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's that surprising. I just don't. I mean,

713
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: the guy cared, he fought it, he kind of put

714
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: his eggs in one basket that didn't work Will's. Will's

715
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: is surprising that he went home. I mean, I think

716
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: since Wills has been on the show, people have admired him,

717
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: especially women, have you know, said how how wonderful he

718
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: is and how beautiful he is as a human. But

719
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: yet he's gone. And this has been a consistent theme

720
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: in his time on the show is he comes in

721
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement around him and then he goes

722
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: home earlier than we expect. What did you see in Wills?

723
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: And what do you see watching it back? That kind

724
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: of messed this journey up. Wills is a guy that

725
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: annoys me on Reality a TV a lot, and I

726
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: love in reality a lot. Um he he is like

727
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: a larger in life person when cameras aren't around, and

728
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens, but and he's so funny

729
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: and so garious and just an awesome dude when there

730
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: are no cameras and sound guys, and then all of

731
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, when that happens, he still has that bravado,

732
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: but it dissonderates so quickly when things don't go his

733
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: way and at the end of the day, like, no

734
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: one wants to be around the sad sack. Now, the fact,

735
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is is that Wills wasn't

736
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: the most sad sack guy this week. It was cam

737
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Like he just would mope around. But you have to

738
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: exude the person that you want to be, and you

739
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: have to exude the person that you think that people

740
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: want to be around. And when you start moping around,

741
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: no one wants to be around you. And it's just

742
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: becomes a thing of like, let's just put him out

743
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: his misernking him the hell out of here. And I

744
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: think that that's I think that's honestly what happened. And

745
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: I felt bad for him because it was last year

746
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to get where where Bibby was like,

747
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my rose to like keep keep

748
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: going or whatever, and I think what she did was

749
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: like I think she pieced out. I can't remember exactly,

750
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: but I remember he was bummed that he was thinking

751
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: that she was gonna give him the rose and it

752
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And the same kind of thing happened again

753
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: this year. Where on is it on Yanka that is

754
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: like peace I'm out, which is a brutal move, but

755
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean I love it for TV. It's like gets

756
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: new new blood in there. But it's a three person swing,

757
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: whereas before it was just gonna be one person going home,

758
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, three people are going home. Um.

759
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: So anyways, that's my thing about Wills. I love him

760
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: to death, but you gotta you gotta if you if

761
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: you're feeling down in yourself, you gotta still kind of

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: like put on the brave face and uh and still

763
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: charm everybody, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense. And

764
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I wondered because there's a mystery there. We don't see

765
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Wills. We don't get to know a

766
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: lot about Wills. We seem to enjoy Wills, uh, and

767
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Wills is gone. Every time

768
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: we watch the show. The other guy that's gone is Kevin.

769
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: We don't know about a lot about Kevin. He makes

770
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: some comments unwarranted about Blake and he's out of there. Yeah,

771
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: they're moving into the next day after the cocktail party.

772
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,759
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773
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Speaker 1: with some breaking news, a massive announcement. I have zero

835
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Speaker 1: idea what you're about to talk about. I want to

836
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it, Okay, I kind of to

837
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: get everybody's thoughts on it as well. Still there. So

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Speaker 1: we're doing this event called uh Sho Cow Country at

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840
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,760
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841
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Speaker 1: to ask Jed to perform. I think, like, you know,

842
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Speaker 1: I listened back again to his interview that we did

843
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: in the in depth and like, I think it's time, Like,

844
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: let's give this guy a shot. So I want to

845
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: see what you guys think. Wait, can we have a

846
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Speaker 1: contingent a contingency here? Yeah, he has to sing the

847
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: dog food jingle he needs if he doesn't encore with

848
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,879
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849
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to have you guys call him, But I

850
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: wanted to like talk about it first because I think

851
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: it's time. I think it's like he made a mistake,

852
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,319
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853
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: liked on TV, and it's like I thought it would

854
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: be fun, so I did mention it to him briefly.

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Speaker 1: He you know, he's nervous and has reservations too, but

856
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I think he's on board. And this is what's so nice,

857
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: Like he's willing to totally donate his time for us

858
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: and you know, come out and have fun and like

859
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: meet people. So I want to do it. I want

860
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: to see what you guys think, and then I want

861
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: you guys to call Jed and talk about it. I

862
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: think you're handing Jed a silver platter. And if he

863
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: doesn't say yes to this, he's crazy. That's what I think.

864
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I think. I think it doesn't really matter what's right

865
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: or wrong. Ed needs to say yes. It's more about

866
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: the fans. Like I think, like I hope everyone listening

867
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: is like, you know what, okay, Like let's go meet him,

868
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: let's go talk to him, let's listen to him play.

869
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: And I know it's that you're like polarizing thing with

870
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: the backs of people in the music, but it's like

871
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: the dude is a kind of a cool singer let's

872
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: do it. I'm fine with it. But also this isn't

873
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: my show, so I mean, what do we Okay, so

874
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: let's break this down, Amy, Okay, Ultimately, what do we like?

875
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: The alternative this would be me saying no, it's not

876
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: a good idea, and Jed should suffer for the rest

877
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: of his life and never have a gig again, and

878
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: nobody should ever support him or listen to his music,

879
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: and instead he needs to go off and do whatever

880
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: it is he's not passionate about and doesn't love. No,

881
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: of course I'm not going to say that like that. Um, yeah,

882
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound good. No, so let's say, let's call

883
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: up Jed, let's talk to him about it. And then

884
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: I think, Wells and I both agree that Jed, you

885
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: need to say yes to this. You need to do it.

886
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: And if nobody shows up to listen to you sing,

887
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: at least you're singing and that's what you like. Well,

888
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: and here's the beauty of it. This other country band,

889
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: High Valleys performing this other country band, how are he's performing?

890
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Its hosted by Janna Like people are coming already because

891
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: it's like it's a really great time and it's like

892
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: we're I Heart Radio. We're supposed to be all about

893
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: the bachelor, but we're about the good and the bad

894
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: and the forgiveness and the love and the whole thing.

895
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: So I think, like, this guy's a really cool guy.

896
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Let's give him the chance. Perfect Remember when we didn't

897
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: like Dean and we love Dean? Do we love Dean? Jeez?

898
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: Do we ever tweet? Yeah? Holy cow? Every lows Dean. Hey,

899
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: all right, Amy, but will you text me because I'm

900
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: a little nervous because I want to know how it

901
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: goes because I'm in San Francisco, so I'm like not

902
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: there with you. So will you text me after and

903
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: tell me how it goes? Yeah, definitely, we'll call him

904
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: up An. I love you guys. By all right, let's

905
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: bring Jed on. Wow, what is up with your guys audio? Jed?

906
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Are you in a windstorm? Right now? This is Jed

907
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to His Face podcast. Is that better? There? It

908
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: is so much better? Hey, Jed? You have wells. Adams

909
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: and I here today for the almost famous podcast. We're

910
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: calling to fully talk some sense into you. I don't

911
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: know if you'll need it or not. We just got

912
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: off the phone with producer Amy. My heart has invited

913
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: you to sing at their event on Saturday, September seven,

914
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: from three to ten pm. It is called the so

915
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Cal Country at the Brewery. They want you to perform

916
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: and we want to hear if you're gonna do it

917
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: or not. You know what, Um, I think I'm into it.

918
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: That sounds some Yeah, Yeah, let's do it. Any hesitation,

919
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: not at all? You know that that sounds exciting. You know,

920
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: I haven't played a lot of shows since everything's gone down. Um,

921
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: just kind of been taking some time, and uh, I'm

922
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: ready to get back out there and do some stuff.

923
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's do it. The event will be this

924
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to come and listen to Jed

925
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: play uh Jed, there's one stipulation that that wells is

926
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: laid out there. You need to play the dog food jingle.

927
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: I think that's just necessary. But also if aybody out

928
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: there is listening and saying I want to go to

929
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 1: this event, this is the event. You got live music,

930
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: great beer, you can come together at the so Cow

931
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: Country at the Brewery, presented by Miller Lyte. Live performances

932
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: will include Jed, High Valley, Hardy Redwood, Black, DJ Badash.

933
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: It's hosted Yeah I like that Na's hosted by Janet Kramer. Jed,

934
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: you haven't played a lot of gigs since your time

935
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor. At Is it because you feel like

936
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: the fans are in support of you right now, or

937
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: just too much has been going on. It's really been

938
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: more of just too much going on. I need to

939
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: like clear my head now. Um, I think obviously there

940
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: there's so much, like there's so many things just like

941
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: floating around, and everyone was very angry, and you know,

942
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: I was upset too, and I just needed to take

943
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: some time to myself. But like I said, I'm ready

944
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: to get back out there, and I think this sounds

945
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: like a great way to kick off, you know, some

946
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: new beginnings. How are you feeling these days? By the way, man,

947
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm a lot better. You know, I'm in sporter right now.

948
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm on a vacation with my whole family, so I'm

949
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: sing I'm throwing more grounded. So that's good. I thought

950
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot harder of aself. Like

951
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I thought, we're gonna have to convince it this is

952
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: not fun anymore. It's just like, yeah, I'm into it, Sure, Okay,

953
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. I mean,

954
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: I was convinced, Jed, we're gonna call you up and

955
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: be like, are you crazy, don't be an idiot. My

956
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: Heart is offering you a gift. Go do it and

957
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: people will come out to support you. But instead he

958
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: was like, yes, it seems like a good idea. So hey,

959
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to show up, uh, make sure you

960
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: go listen to a great show. Uh, some really great

961
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: acts hosted by Janet Kramer so Kyl at the Brewery,

962
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: presented by My Heart and Miller Lite. Hey, Jed, good luck.

963
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Let us know how it goes. And that's all I

964
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: have to say. I'm glad you're doing well. I'm glad

965
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: you're happy. Enjoy your vacation. Yeah, enjoy your vacation, and

966
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: uh go play some music. You know what. I really

967
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: am excited, and I didn't really mean to sound, you know,

968
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: like I wasn't. It's just a you know, it's kind

969
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: of a cool surprise to get and I wasn't expecting

970
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: to hear that today. So I am thankful and look

971
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: forward to seeing everyone there. That's awesome, man, Well we're

972
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: excited about it. Dude, Thanks for taking the time to

973
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: chat with us, and also thanks so much so much

974
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: for doing this is gonna be a fun little show. No,

975
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: thank you, guys. I look forward to it, all right,

976
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: see Jed better dude later. Do you think Jed wears

977
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: cowboy boots to these shows? Yeah? Yeah, you're like, what's

978
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: his attire more than like the T shirt, jeans, cowboy boots,

979
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: trucker hat. Or is he like full on cowboy flannel,

980
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: tight jeans, cowboy boots, cowboy hat. It's either the first

981
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: one or maybe it's like the the rolled up jeans,

982
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: no shoes. I'm gonna try to get into like the

983
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: beer selling business as well, you know, like Kenny Chesney style.

984
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I could be awesome.

985
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. I think that Jed should like go

986
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: full Garth Brooks, Chris Gaines, change his name, change his

987
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: hair style. You know, try that out. Let's reinvent Jed Wyatt.

988
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: It's only for the best. Uh hey, well, let's break

989
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: down the rest of the episode. We're getting into the

990
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: day after the cocktail party. And trust me, if you

991
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,640
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992
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,200
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996
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Speaker 1: do something crazy. We've got an episode. Oh man, this

1048
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: is great. So we wake up after the cocktail party,

1049
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: we see seen a little this mantled sad. I guess

1050
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: we could say emotional. He was not chosen by the

1051
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,880
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1052
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,000
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1061
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: we'll we'll float each other, you know, will we'll be

1062
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: given out friendship roses together for a while. I don't

1063
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: know what is your vibe on it. I can't tell

1064
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: either of them are that supportive of each other. I

1065
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: guess that's my big question is if they were down

1066
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: in Paradise and they're both like fighting for the other,

1067
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: then it makes sense. I don't get if there if

1068
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: there's like romantic chemistry, if they're just both in the

1069
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: same team, if they had this conversation beforehand before they

1070
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: got on the show, and they're like, hey, we're gonna

1071
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: go down there support each other. It just feels weird

1072
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: to me. And maybe I've missed this and I've forgotten it.

1073
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: It feels weird to me that it felt like Christina

1074
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: came down to Paradise to kind of called Blake out

1075
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: and kind of say, Blake, you did this to me,

1076
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: This isn't fair. Similar to the Kalin situation. I mean

1077
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: really their stories are very similar when it comes to

1078
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: Blake's up with one of them the night before and

1079
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: vice versa. Yet now this change of heart has happened,

1080
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think we've seen why. Well, she kind

1081
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: of mentions that she wants to watch Blake suffer and

1082
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: see Blake be sad about Dylan and Hannah being a thing,

1083
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: which is kind of super evil. Yeah, it's like, I

1084
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: don't know, I watched You'll Cry every Day. I don't

1085
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: like and I've always been a fan of Christina, but

1086
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: that comment is like pretty dark. Yeah, Christina is I

1087
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: was talking about this with a friend the other day,

1088
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: and I think it holds true. I think that Christina

1089
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: has been the victim of f boyery for quite some

1090
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: time on national television, and she was Aladin and she

1091
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: didn't like the way that she was perceived as being

1092
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: like weak and um and emotionally clingy on that season.

1093
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: So I feel like there's a part of her deep

1094
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: down that's like, you know what, I've been confronted with

1095
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: another f boy and I'm going to do the thing

1096
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: that I wish I had done before, which is, you know,

1097
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't know hurt him because I know what it's

1098
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: like to be hurt by guys like that. So at

1099
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: this point, does Blake have any people on his team

1100
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: in Paradise? And and the fall up to this, why,

1101
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: as you think about that would be if I'm Blake

1102
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: and I'm standing at a rose ceremony and Christina offers

1103
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: me a rose and I know that she has ulterior

1104
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: motives or since it, why in the world do you

1105
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: say yes? Because I think he's open that he can somehow, um,

1106
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, reconstruct his image. So he's around to

1107
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: try to figure out how this has all gone wrong,

1108
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: to get a second chance, and to try to try

1109
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: to fix what has already been broken. I think, So,

1110
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I mean I would think so.

1111
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean that would be the only reason because if

1112
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: because at this point we haven't seen any type of

1113
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: apology or true friendship between Christina and Blake. And so

1114
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: if I'm Blake and I'm heart broken that Hannah hasn't

1115
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: offered me the roads, I'm standing up there and then

1116
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Christina offered him the roads, and

1117
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I go, wait, you do you know what my best

1118
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: interest in mind? I think I'm running, like I'm out

1119
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: of there. This has not been in my favor. I

1120
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: know this isn't gonna get any better, Like there is

1121
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: no fixing to what always been done. I need to

1122
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: leave now. Yeah, I agree, I think you should have gone.

1123
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Probably a couple episodes beforehand, he made a lot of

1124
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: bad decisions. I think one of them paramount was accepting

1125
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: to go on a date with Christina. Like, you knew

1126
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: that was going to not go well, you knew that

1127
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: there was not gonna be a thing. What's the point

1128
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: of it. You should have been like, hey, listen, I

1129
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: so I still love you, and I hope I hope

1130
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: nothing that the best for you. You You should go find

1131
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: someone here for you. We don't need to hash this

1132
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: out anymore. But he did that, and that put him

1133
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: behind the ball once again, because then she just went

1134
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: talents out and just destroyed him there. And then I

1135
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: think she felt maybe a little bit bad about it,

1136
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: so she was like, you know what, he deserves to

1137
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: find love or whatever, So I'm gonna give him a friendships.

1138
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember it. If I remember it, She does

1139
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: say Blake is not a bad guy. He's made some

1140
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: bad decisions, and so her her thought process is, Hey,

1141
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: this dude like he's been beat up. Does he deserve

1142
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: it a little bit? Yeah, it probably does, but let's

1143
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: at least keep him around to see if he can

1144
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: show the Blake that we all know outside of his

1145
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, Galli vanting around. Yeah. It's a weird thing, man,

1146
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: And it's it's also like Christina just comes across as

1147
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: just kind of mean in this episode. I have to

1148
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like I was sitting there being like, wow,

1149
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know this is how this went, Like her

1150
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: conversation with Caitlin. Yeah, you know, I think Caitlin. I

1151
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: think Caitlyn was coming from a fair place being like,

1152
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: what are your intentions here? Because I don't think you

1153
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: want to date him? So you just want the rose.

1154
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's messed up because I think that

1155
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: I actually have something with him and you're kind of

1156
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: impeding that. And then she just like does like the

1157
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: scary Russian thing where all of a sudden she was

1158
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: just like breathing over her with a knife in her teeth,

1159
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: and it was terrifying and Caitlin felt it like like

1160
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: felt the heat. It's we got a question last week, well,

1161
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: was you might be able the instagram? Because we've got

1162
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: to figure this out. If Blake would have said no

1163
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: to Christina's rose at that moment, do they both go home?

1164
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: I think so? Yes. We dressing that play out. It

1165
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: was asking the podcast we had no we have no clue. Yeah,

1166
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: can be confident? Okay, I I think yes, both go home.

1167
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: So if there's one person now sitting with who is

1168
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: one person in Paradise that you do not want to

1169
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: get on their bad side? Would you say to be

1170
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: Christina Christina more than Jordan's, more than Kaylin, more than Clay.

1171
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what Chris Christian um Demmi

1172
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: like Christina is the one person you're saying, Yeah, that

1173
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: one would definitely terrify me. She scares me a little bit.

1174
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean like Demi would scare me a little bit too,

1175
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, no, Christina like she's also been

1176
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: around and she's like when she was like no, honey,

1177
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: like whatever she said, I was like, oh God, they're

1178
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna fight. Yeah, you know, it's wild. It's hard for me.

1179
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: Like Chris, I had the like biggest crush on Christina

1180
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: when she was on I forget whose season it was

1181
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: and Nix, I was like, she's Nicks as the super

1182
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: sweet girl. And now I'm like, if I was in

1183
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: paradise with her, like I would, I would be so intimidated,

1184
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: not because of like a crush, maybe just like I

1185
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: don't want I'm gonna do something wrong, say something wrong,

1186
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be bad. Yeah, she's She's definitely like

1187
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: turned into something that I don't really recognize, to be

1188
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: honest with you, Like when she was going through all

1189
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 1: that stuff with um with Dean, I felt so bad

1190
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: for I mean I had that like that that one

1191
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: scene where I asked her, like, uh, why are you

1192
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: fighting for someone that's not fighting for you? And like

1193
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: she breaks down and like it was this whole thing

1194
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: and we hugged and like I felt so bad for

1195
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: And now it's like she is a very very it

1196
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: seems like a very very angry woman. I don't know,

1197
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: and you might have said it best, you know, as

1198
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: we we've gotten to see her journey kind of play out.

1199
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: She has been a victim of some pain on this show.

1200
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: And you do put up walls to protect yourself and

1201
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: this pain might be deeper than what we've ever really

1202
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: seen from the show, meaning that you know, when it

1203
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: comes to Dean, she didn't like how it played out,

1204
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: and when it came to Blake, however it went down

1205
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: outside of the show, it then affected her coming onto

1206
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: the show. There are some massive pains and as a result,

1207
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: she's protecting herself. And this is a we've here's the truth.

1208
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: None of us are ouselves when we're defensive. Yeah, none

1209
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: of us. And she's definitely defensive right now because the

1210
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: reason I'm saying that, and again I'm not down there,

1211
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I can't see it. I think she's defensive because we

1212
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: still have yet to see her really pursue a guy. Yeah,

1213
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: you know I I I think it comes down to

1214
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: she always perceived herself as this really strong woman who overcome,

1215
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: who overcame a lot of stuff obviously, like from her

1216
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: upbringing and everything. UM, and I think that she hated

1217
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: the way that she looked last time, and she was like,

1218
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: I get to be I want to be that really

1219
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: strong woman on TV this time, and I want to

1220
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: show people like who I am and what I made

1221
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: of Um. The problem is that sometimes it just comes

1222
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: across as really abrasive and and and then she doesn't,

1223
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: in my mind, seem strong. She seems kind of mean. Yeah,

1224
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: it's a fine line you gotta walk. Who's someone that

1225
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: you'd be scared to get on their bad To me?

1226
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: Demi would destroy me. She would crucify me. She's way

1227
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: too witty, way too quick, way too smart, and she

1228
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: would say things that like that, Yeah, she I would

1229
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: not know she even at one point was we were

1230
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: at a the live taping of the Mentel All so

1231
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: No after the final rows for Colton season, and Demi

1232
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: was in her dressing with me and I went up

1233
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, Dammi, I'm Ben. She's like, yeah,

1234
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: you've bad mouth me on your podcast. I was like

1235
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: right away, and I was like, oh did I? I mean,

1236
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm just you know, trying to

1237
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: break down the episodes and what I'm seeing on the show.

1238
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: She's like, you called me a pest, and I was like, well,

1239
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: in a sense, I still stick to that because you're lovable.

1240
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: You're like a lovable pest. Like you're like the pest

1241
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: that like we can't get rid of, but yet we

1242
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know if we really want to like you're like

1243
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: scabies or scabs or something like that, like we we

1244
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: just can't get rid of you. And she was like

1245
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: not happy, like not happy. And at that moment I shrunk,

1246
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: like I could feel myself shrink. And I feel like

1247
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: by the end of the night, I was on my

1248
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: hands and kneeds me like, dim me, please forgive me.

1249
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean anything. I said, You're the best,

1250
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: You're the greatest, like I love you and and now

1251
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: I watched you to me and I and I do

1252
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: I love and we'll talk about them a little bit.

1253
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: But anyways, Yeah, I'm still scared of Demmium, probably for

1254
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: rightly so. So Christina and Demi are definitely to the

1255
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: intimidated us. Um somebody that doesn't intimidate me. But I'm

1256
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by its Caitlin who shows up the Paradise

1257
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: this week. She's some Coulton season the back, so we

1258
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of her on Colton season. She

1259
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: if she had Night One girl. No, she stuck around

1260
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: for a little bit, but um, she obviously didn't make

1261
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: it as far as most women from Colton season that

1262
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: are there right now. I I am was excited to

1263
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: see her, UM because I thought that she looked exactly

1264
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: like the girl from Fool's Gold UM, or also the

1265
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: girl from Entourage that the Vinnie UM. So if you

1266
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: guys just want to google that, they look exactly the same. UM.

1267
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: But I was happy to see her there because I

1268
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: think she's beautiful and we needed some new blood that day.

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: She was great, She was a great addition. She was

1270
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: a little bit shocking. We didn't know a lot about her.

1271
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: She is beautiful, uh, and she picks Blake to go

1272
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: on the day with her. It's kind of the obvious choice.

1273
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the other guys were single

1274
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: and looking to mingle, and he was sitting there. She's interested.

1275
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: The The part though, through this whole thing, that I

1276
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: was a little bit shocked by was how hurt Blake

1277
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: still was at the day before. And I couldn't tell

1278
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,839
Speaker 1: if this you know, connection for Blake, this this request

1279
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: to go on a date kind of built his confidence

1280
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: and he walked into date confident, or if he was

1281
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: more like, I just need to move on somehow, some way,

1282
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: and she seems to be the best option. But here's

1283
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: the thing, and I was really happy this going to

1284
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: happen Before the day even starts, Blake says, yeah, I've

1285
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: met her before at stage coach, which is just in

1286
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: this season, like the worst phrase to use ever, as like,

1287
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: I met her at stage coach. And he finishes up

1288
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: and says, but nothing happened. I believe that. I think

1289
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: he's been pretty obvious about what's happened. I think at

1290
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: this point he's learned his lesson and would not lie

1291
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: or tell, not tell the complete truth. There's also only

1292
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: so many hours in stagecoach, you know, at some point

1293
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a logistics issue in terms of a day.

1294
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: That's a good point, Yeah, I mean, because what is

1295
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: this two days? Three days? Like that would be a

1296
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: wild tournament fans um. He goes on this day, it's

1297
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,879
Speaker 1: going well. He's still sucked up in Hannah's uh web,

1298
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: and at some point he breaks through and he says

1299
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: he's ready to forgive himself, that he's carried a burden

1300
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: through this whole experience that has put a weight on him,

1301
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: and he's ready to forgive himself and try to move on,

1302
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: and he's excited to do it with Caitlin. Is there

1303
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: is this a shift in the Blake story, Like, is

1304
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: this moment a shift wells in your opinion on how

1305
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: Blake views himself, what he's learned, and how others in

1306
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: the house will view him. I think that that's how

1307
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: what he thinks. You know, he realizes that him and

1308
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: Hannah aren't going to be a thing. He's still there,

1309
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: so he has to keep his are open um and

1310
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: this is the first opportunity for that to happen. The

1311
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: problem is that it doesn't. You get the vibe that

1312
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: he's like not super into it, And that makes me

1313
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: feel kind of bad for Caitlin, because, you know, devoid

1314
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: of all the kind of crap that Blake has had

1315
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: to go through, you still want Caitlin have good experience there.

1316
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: You know. Did you get the vibe that like he

1317
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: wasn't that into her? Remeybe his head was still in

1318
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: the Hannah cloud definitely did. But I do think that

1319
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: moment changed it for me. Like I think he went

1320
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: into it very sucked in the Hannah and he's sitting

1321
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: there with Caitlyn going that's over with this, has done.

1322
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: This is a great girl who I'm getting along with.

1323
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: I can move on my my confusion to all of this,

1324
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: and I think our listeners can help break it down.

1325
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: So listeners is my second question of the podcast. Please

1326
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: email us at ben actually at our Heart media dot

1327
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: com with your thoughts or hashtag is almost from his

1328
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: podcast on Twitter. If Blake is so sucked up into

1329
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: the Hannah situation, if he cares about her that much,

1330
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: which I really believe he did, what in the world

1331
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 1: was he doing at the very beginning of this process,

1332
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: because as Dylan was pursuing Hannah and handle alone Blake,

1333
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: yes he was distracted with Caitlin, and yes there was

1334
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: a Christina thing, but he also showed interest in Tassia.

1335
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: Night one moved on why wasn't that a Hannah pursuit

1336
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: right away from because I think this whole thing looks different,

1337
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: even the story with Caitlin and Christina, if he's with

1338
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Hannah saying hey, it all led me to you. Yeah.

1339
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: It was as big as mistake of the entire um

1340
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: season for sure, and it would have looked completely different.

1341
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: I think if he had taken her on that first

1342
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: date in Cenitasia. The issue is is that he also

1343
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: had met and flirted with Tasha at stage coach from

1344
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: what everyone was saying. So I think in his mind,

1345
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: and this I do not want to speak for him,

1346
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: but this is how I perceived it. It was, Um,

1347
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Tassia. I know him into Hannah. Hannah

1348
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: is not going anywhere. So if I can get some

1349
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: clarity between how I feel about Tasha, then I know

1350
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: how to move forward with Hannah, I think, And I

1351
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: think that's how he justified it in his head. He

1352
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: should have taken hand on that first date. It would

1353
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: have changed everything. It would have I mean, it's it's

1354
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: less than number one in relationships. If you're into somebody,

1355
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: you should probably pursue them and not test the waters

1356
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: in the outside looking in hoping that person still sticks around. Yeah,

1357
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: I think there's a part of me that thinks that

1358
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: at that moment, Blake didn't think his s stunk, you know,

1359
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: like he thought he was going to be the king

1360
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: of Paradise and then he there's no way that he

1361
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: could have perceived how like how hard this was gonna

1362
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: unravel on him. Oh yeah, I don't know, No, it

1363
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 1: could be true. Yeah, So like at this point, Blake's

1364
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this has made the beauty of these situations,

1365
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: and and I'm a before on the angiogram wells, which

1366
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: means I really enjoy authentic, real moments. I throw. I've

1367
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: when even in pain, when things are real, And as

1368
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: much as I don't like to see it, there is

1369
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: a really beautiful thing that's happening to Blake in front

1370
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: of our eyes that we should all celebrate that he

1371
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: is being humbled. I think he would admit to that,

1372
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: that he is being humbled in front of our eyes

1373
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: on television and we're seeing it happen. So he if

1374
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: he walks in, we've all been there. I don't want

1375
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: to say this is a blake, This is only Blake.

1376
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: I've had this happen to me in my time as

1377
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. You get a big head, you think you're cool,

1378
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: you're walking on water, everybody is giving you attention, and

1379
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it all comes to a

1380
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: screeching hall. Something happens that affects that confidence, and you

1381
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: realize that you're never as cool as you thought you were,

1382
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: and you're humbled, and you're ne're a better person because

1383
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: of it, because your perspective changes, and there's like there

1384
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: is a lens that's been covering your eyes that has

1385
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: now been removed and everything looks different, feels different, And

1386
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if that moment was on that day with Caleen.

1387
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, we'll see well to see the one thing

1388
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: that can tinuees to be be constant though. You know,

1389
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: we've talked about Hannah g and Blake's pursue, but Dylan's

1390
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: pursuit of her, and we talked about a little bit ago,

1391
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: but now is Dylan's time to shine. They get a

1392
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: date in Paradise, one on one. Everything is kind of

1393
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: led up to this moment, right we're all watching, at

1394
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: least I am going, Okay, we've played games. It hasn't

1395
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: been pretty. It's been hard to watch on both ends.

1396
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: But this is the moment that feels like if it's

1397
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna go, well, we're gonna learn about it now, Like

1398
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna see this thing flourish. And Dylan and Hannah

1399
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: Gee go on a date. They're walking on the water

1400
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: to dinner. Literally, they sit down, they have a wonderful talk. Um.

1401
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: Hannah Gee opens up and it's a really great moment

1402
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: to see because I do think it it humanized her

1403
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: a bit from being the kind of the goddess on

1404
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: the beach to them being a real human who has

1405
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: emotions and feelings and pain. And she opens up about

1406
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: heart how she was heartbroken the last time she went

1407
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: on this show, and she's worried and she wants to

1408
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: protect herself. But there's one guy, there's one guy that

1409
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: will definitely protect her. Uh. He might not be the

1410
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: one that, if you looked at in the lineup, say yeah,

1411
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: that's the guy that's gonna protect Hannah g it's Dylan.

1412
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Dylan says one thing to you, to her that makes

1413
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 1: me realize that he's going to protect her. He says,

1414
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: I love doing special things for you because seeing you

1415
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: happy and feeling appreciated is something I want to keep

1416
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: doing all the time. That's the same stuff I say

1417
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: to Jess, Like that's like deep stuff, like hey, I

1418
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: I will give up my own like happiness at times,

1419
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: like I will. I will lay at the feet of

1420
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: your desires to see you shine, because when you're shining,

1421
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm happier. Like when you're feeling appreciated, I'm I'm at

1422
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: my best because that's how much I care about you.

1423
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: Like that's that's deep stuff. And he's saying this to

1424
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: hand a few weeks in. Is it too much, too soon?

1425
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: Or is this where they're at. I think he I

1426
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: think he was love at first sight guy, for sure.

1427
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, like a true love is

1428
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: um is putting yourself, putting someone else's needs and wants

1429
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: in front of your own, you know, and like that

1430
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: that's what he's trying to say here. I think that

1431
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: I think that he knows that he's in love with her,

1432
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: but he can't say that because that's kind of weird

1433
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: so soon. So he says, I'm starting to fall in

1434
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: love with you. Yeah, But in his mind, he's like,

1435
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: all I want to tell you is that I love you.

1436
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: If like, if I could get Neil Lane in here

1437
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: right now, I would, yeah, you know, I mean, is

1438
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: that a beautiful Like we've see this all the time

1439
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 1: on the show and we laugh at it and we

1440
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: joke about it. Oh, how can you fall in love

1441
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: so fast? All this stuff? But sometimes like magic happens,

1442
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: like sometimes it just transcends the norm. And I feel

1443
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: like I've watched Dylan this whole time, and he really

1444
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: has loved Hannah. Now has it been reciprocated, I don't know,

1445
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: but he really has loved Hannah since the moment he

1446
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: laid eyes on her, and I think I would have

1447
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm would have enjoyed it if he had

1448
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: just said, Hannah, like, I don't know what to say

1449
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: right now, but I love I love you. Yeah. I

1450
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: think he was worried about scaring her away for sure,

1451
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: And it was so close to her, you know, swing

1452
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: dancing with plaque on the beach that like, you know,

1453
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: so I think he I think he was hedging his

1454
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: bets there a little bit. I think that he said

1455
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: as much as as much as he could without freaking

1456
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: her out. Um, and I think he did a good

1457
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: like a really good job. He opened up, talked about,

1458
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, his dad being diagnosed with cancer, and and

1459
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: and then Hannah reciprocates with with I'm all in, which

1460
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: I almost feel like is just as powerful as saying

1461
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to fall in love with you. Yeah, you know,

1462
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: this is it? This is it? What before we move

1463
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: on here, because we can this relationship was going to

1464
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: be when we talked about for weeks and weeks and weeks,

1465
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: what was it in Hannah that switched? I mean she's

1466
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: literally one night separated from swing dancing with another guy

1467
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: on a beach and kissing him. What moment was it

1468
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: that switched for her to then say them all in,

1469
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming at this point she's all in. I mean,

1470
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I can't speak for I know

1471
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people on that beach were very much

1472
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: team Dylan. So if you're going around trying to get

1473
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: advice from people about what you should do, everyone, I

1474
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: think everyone except for Blake, was like, you would be

1475
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: crazy to break this kid's heart. Okay, And I think that,

1476
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think that she's a strong woman that

1477
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: and that could make her own decisions, but I think

1478
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you need to hear it from everyone around you

1479
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, you're right, man, like this is

1480
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: a really good thing. What am I doing here? Like

1481
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. And

1482
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I think that that when

1483
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: she realized that everyone was like what is happening, that

1484
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: she was like, you're right, what do you think? That's

1485
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: probably it? I mean, I was gonna say it was

1486
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: the moment she had to decide between the two, like

1487
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: actually decide that She's started picturing life with Blake and

1488
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: life with Dylan and life without Dylan and life without Blake,

1489
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: and she thought that Dylan was going to offer her

1490
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: or bring her more of what she was looking for

1491
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: than Blake. And at that point, I think there is

1492
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: a switch in all of us that says, hey, yeah,

1493
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: this hasn't been easy, but I'm committing to it because

1494
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: I know it's right and I know what it's gonna

1495
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: look like, what I've always dreamed of. And you literally

1496
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: seen me making out with other guys and stood beside

1497
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: me and support the whole time. And that's somebody that

1498
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: I need. I need my my writer Die. Not that

1499
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be making out guys anymore, but I need

1500
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: my writer Die. I need somebody's gonna be there through

1501
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: thick and thin wells. Dylan isn't the only one falling

1502
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: in love in Paradise, surprisingly to all of us. To Twitter,

1503
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: to the emails, yeah j p J and Tasha, j

1504
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: p J says this. He says he's starting to fall

1505
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: in love with Tasha, and he says, if Tasha were

1506
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: my wife, I'd be the happiest man in the world.

1507
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: Unexpected relationship. But here's one thing I've learned about JPJ

1508
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: and all transparency. We all watch it, we laugh at

1509
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: it because of the way he talks and the things

1510
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: he says and he's throwing up it feels like on

1511
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: the beach a lot and then in the pool. But

1512
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 1: the one thing about JPJ is he is incredibly intelligent,

1513
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: but he is a smart guy, and it's and and

1514
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: he's he's a nice guy and he cares a ton

1515
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: about this woman, who again is way out of his league. Agreed. Um, yeah,

1516
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't never really know that this this seeing

1517
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: this play out is weird for me because this was

1518
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: something that I think, I don't know if a lot

1519
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: of people knew what was happening. Um, they're like closeness

1520
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: was not something that was very much publicized, I feel

1521
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: like to everyone on the beach, and I think that

1522
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: that's going to be something that comes up later in

1523
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: the show. Like they much, they're very much were like

1524
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: sneaking away together a lot, and so a lot of

1525
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: people just didn't know that they're they were so close

1526
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: And did you even know they are so close until

1527
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:21,879
Speaker 1: you watch the episode? No I didn't. That's that's shocking.

1528
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, because it is close and they are into

1529
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: each other and changes in the hymn and they have

1530
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: this goofy dynamic where they're both themselves there, you know,

1531
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: JPJS reciting poetry and she's looking at him gazingly like

1532
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: I've never recited poetry to a woman and for her

1533
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: to take me seriously, Yeah yeah, yeah. Well I don't

1534
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: know if she took him seriously either though, to be fair,

1535
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: and I here's my thought on like the fact that

1536
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like super publicized. Um, the perception of JPJ

1537
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: is he's just like fun loving um Bill and Ted's

1538
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: excellent adventure guy, right, Like that's it's like, well, all right,

1539
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: let's yeah go to the beach and it hits and

1540
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: sick ways bro, Like he's that guy. Um. And I

1541
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: think there's a part of tation that's like I shouldn't

1542
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: be falling for something like this, you know. So maybe

1543
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this under wraps for a little

1544
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: bit and see what happens, um. And then what ends

1545
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: up happening is which what is what I love about Paradise.

1546
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: The relationships that end up working are never the ones

1547
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna work beforehand. And I could have

1548
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: told you this before the season started, that there was

1549
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: no way in hell that Blake and Hannah Gee we're

1550
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna work out you know why, because everyone wanted that

1551
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: thing to work out. And then how it happens Carly

1552
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: and Evan great example, the Goose and Crystal. Everyone was like,

1553
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: this is the weirdest combo ever. There you go. I

1554
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: mean like, and I think that's the beauty of paradise

1555
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: is it brings people. Okay, So the problem that we

1556
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: all have in the back stor world is we are

1557
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: all single, which means we all dated the wrong people

1558
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: and we think that we know what our type is.

1559
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: But the truth is we're wrong because the people that

1560
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: have been our type have never really worked out. Hence

1561
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: why we're on the stupid television show. So the reason

1562
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: why the people that you don't think will work out

1563
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: for you work out is because they're not the thing

1564
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: that has been the wrong thing the entire time you've

1565
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: been dating your entire life. And that is that's my spiel.

1566
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: That's good, That's that's brilliant. I mean, that is well,

1567
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: that is a brilliant synopsis of why we're on this

1568
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: show and why we struggle to find relationship in the

1569
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: real world, and why this show feels so attractive to

1570
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: so many people that continue to come back because on

1571
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: this show it's one of the first times that you

1572
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: can openly date somebody that's not your type. Hey, um

1573
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: speaking to more shocking relationships. I want to get into

1574
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: the Demi and Derek convery station, and I want to

1575
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: set this up for you. Hannah By knows Demmi well.

1576
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: Hannah By comes to the beach. Uh surprises a lot

1577
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: of people. Mike said, a lost for words, and everybody's excited,

1578
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: and Dean saying, hey, maybe Hannah By wants gonna date

1579
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: with us. Who knows what's happening. But really, Hannah's there

1580
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: to talk to her friend and be a friend to Demmi.

1581
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: And at this point we see Demmi start to open

1582
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: up about something that is um very new to this franchise,

1583
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: something that is incredibly courageous I think, to enter into

1584
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: and to start talking about. And she's doing it with

1585
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,919
Speaker 1: the perfect person and Derek. So Hannah By encourages Demmi

1586
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: to follow where her heart is, to follow what she wants,

1587
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: and she's still a little bit confused on what she wants,

1588
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: but she knows she has a partner back home in

1589
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: Christian de Mean says her the girl's name for the

1590
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: first time, and now it's time to talk to Derek,

1591
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: your friend, somebody I don't know well at all. I

1592
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: really don't know him at all. So I'm coming back

1593
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: about this just from a fans person inspective. But Demmi

1594
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: opens up to Derek and both of them and here's my, my, my,

1595
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: how I want to start this. What they did in

1596
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,480
Speaker 1: this moment was more compelling, captivating, and I guess enjoyable

1597
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: for me to watch than any drama that's ever been

1598
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: done on this show at any point. It was two

1599
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: adults having a very real conversation, one person, Demi doing

1600
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: something incredibly scary but also incredibly courageous, and Derek being

1601
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: put into a position where his heart was torn, his

1602
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: interests were divided, yet he listened, and I think it

1603
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: was awesome. And I want to start here, wells with this?

1604
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: What about this moment for you? And what about let's

1605
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: start with Derek, because we're gonna talk a lot about Demmy.

1606
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Let's start with Derek. What about Derek? And and because

1607
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: you're his friend, what was going through his mind do

1608
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: you think at this time? Alright, so I agree with

1609
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: you and what you said. I thought it was the

1610
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 1: best reality TV that I've seen, um in any reality

1611
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: TV show, like it made me feel something that I

1612
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,839
Speaker 1: don't normally feel, which was like I got like teared,

1613
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: I teared up when I saw the whole thing. And

1614
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: I think that's partially because Derek and I are really

1615
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: close and I could like feel his pain. I think

1616
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 1: that what was going through his mind was this sucks

1617
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: because I really really liked this girl and I could

1618
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: see myself with her. Um but I understand that what

1619
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: she's doing, Like, first of all, coming out do your

1620
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: best friend is tough. Coming out to your parents even

1621
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: more difficult. Imagine doing that on national television, Like that's

1622
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: on a whole different level of scary. I think that

1623
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Derek realized the weight of the situation. I think that

1624
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: he also is smart enough and woke enough to realize

1625
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: the situation was much bigger than him and it's okay

1626
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:10,480
Speaker 1: to be hurt, But also he needed to be supportive

1627
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: because he realized that the situation of him getting his

1628
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: heartbroken paled in comparison to the thing that she was

1629
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: about to go through, and that will go through, you know,

1630
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: a couple of months down the road when the show airs.

1631
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: So I think that the one that wonderful thing about

1632
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Derek is Derek is smart enough to be able to

1633
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: understand how big of a moment that was for him,

1634
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: but still he's human and his heart was was like, man,

1635
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: it sucks, you know, like why does he keep happening

1636
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: to me? Thing? Does that answer your question? Does? It

1637
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: puts him in an interesting snare? Right? So if if

1638
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Demmy had a boyfriend back home, yeah, I think it

1639
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,520
Speaker 1: feels different. But we realized that Demmy came to Paradise conflicted.

1640
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Um not confused, but conflicted. She was interested in pursuing

1641
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: a partner in Paradise. She wanted to be in Paradise.

1642
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: But she then admits, and then the reason I'm getting

1643
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: this because she was downplaying the situation with the girl

1644
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: back home Christian. And so at this moment, it feels

1645
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: like it switches because Derek is smart enough to know

1646
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: where Demmy was coming from by even coming to Paradise.

1647
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: And I thought Derek did something that I hope every

1648
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: friend would do for me for the rest of my life.

1649
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: Is he would sit, he would empathize, he would relate,

1650
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: and he would speak from a place of empathy and

1651
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: non judgment and non criticism and even even taking their

1652
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: own self interests out of consideration. He would do it

1653
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: because he knows it's the best for the human sitting

1654
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: across from And that to me was one of the

1655
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: most brilliant not brilliant. I don't think he did it

1656
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: cal calculated. I just think it's probably who he is.

1657
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: But I can't and well, this is what I mean.

1658
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: I'll call it a really good God moment. Others will

1659
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: call them a miracle of sorts. How in the world

1660
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 1: did Dimmy have the opportunity to sit down with Derek

1661
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: out of anybody else there? It feels miraculous that Derek

1662
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: was the person sitting across the table from her as

1663
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: she shared this as it was happening, and while we

1664
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: were doing it, it was very much a conversation of

1665
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: there was no other person in the franchise that probably

1666
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: could have handled it as well as Derek did. And

1667
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: everyone was just super happy that and proud that he

1668
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: was there and he was a part of the franchise

1669
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 1: to begin with. And I like, just to echo your point,

1670
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: like he just comes across as super selfless in a

1671
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: in a moment where you get to be selfish, you know,

1672
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: like this is these are my feelings too. But he

1673
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:53,839
Speaker 1: still had the wherewithal and the compassion to be like whoa, okay,

1674
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,480
Speaker 1: hold on. I realized this as big and I realized

1675
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 1: this is this is much bigger for you than it

1676
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: is for me. So what do I need to do?

1677
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, like even the thing of like, well, can

1678
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: I talk to Christian before everyone else does? That's crazy, right,

1679
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Like if that was another guy, I'm sure he'd be like, oh,

1680
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch a sky in the first, you know,

1681
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: but like he was like, whoa, okay, hold on, can

1682
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: I at least like meter first? So like we have

1683
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: a connection before, Like I wouldn't have thought to do

1684
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: that in that moment, you know, Like that blew me

1685
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: away that he had the compassion to do that, you know. Yeah,

1686
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: and there's the you know, one of the fun parts

1687
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: about this show is everybody can say the right thing

1688
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: for a few weeks. It happens, right, everybody come on

1689
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: and be the Mrs Hero or Mr Hero or whatever

1690
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: like you can. You can come on and say the

1691
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: right thing for long enough. But ultimately the show does

1692
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: a great job at pulling your true character out. And

1693
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, the humans who have

1694
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: the characteristics of a good person end up thriving from

1695
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: this show and the other ones they they kind of

1696
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: go by the way side after a few years or

1697
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: even an episode. In this moment, it was a lot

1698
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: of times when when conflict occurs, Well, what I'm getting

1699
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: at is, and this is probably me being judgmental, but

1700
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: a lot of times when conflictly occurs on the show,

1701
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: I listened to the response to the other person, and

1702
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:23,959
Speaker 1: it feels very um self selfish. It feels very uplifting

1703
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: for the person in their response, Oh you're breaking up

1704
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: with me? I am so sad, I'm heartbroken. Everybody should

1705
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: feel bad for me. Blah blah. No, when I watched this,

1706
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: there was not one moment that I ever since from

1707
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Derek that this was anything more than him caring a

1708
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: lot about somebody he cared for. And that's what made

1709
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: it so beautiful. It was real, it was raw. I

1710
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: don't think he could I think he could have cared

1711
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 1: less if there was a camera around or nine million

1712
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: people watching. What he cared about in that moment was

1713
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: Demi and what Demmy was doing and what what what

1714
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: was really changing the path of Demi's life. Yeah, and

1715
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see like he obviously is very strong

1716
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: for her in front of her, and then very strong

1717
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: for her with Christian when they when they meet. Um,

1718
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: but he still has that like very real moment when

1719
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: he when he kind of like walks away from the situation,

1720
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: he starts to break down and is has this kind

1721
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: of whole spiel of like is this everyone keeps saying

1722
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm a good guy, Like when is that gonna be enough?

1723
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Like when's that gonna be enough? He finally realizes that

1724
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: his feelings matter in this moment too, but he has

1725
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: the tach to not do it to her. He does

1726
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: it basically alone in the sand, or basically do a producer.

1727
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I think, um, and I thought that was a really

1728
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: beautiful moment too, where he understood how big the moment

1729
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 1: was and he was so compassionate to her. He was

1730
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: even compassionate and the fact that he didn't do the

1731
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 1: woe is meeting to her he walked away and did

1732
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: it you know and like and and saved her from

1733
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: having to experience pain you know there, which the whole

1734
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: thing was just like now, that was that was like

1735
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: arrow in my heart moment on Paradise for sure. The

1736
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Demi story, Uh, it's obviously when that's intriguing. But mostly

1737
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 1: I guess here at the podcast, I want to say, um, Demmi,

1738
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,600
Speaker 1: we completely support you. I think that's obvious. But that

1739
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: was courageous and UM, I know it wasn't easy. I

1740
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you listen to this, you must because

1741
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: you got mad at me once. This is your big

1742
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: kid pain the maker like you again. But good on you.

1743
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Good on you for how you explained it. Good on

1744
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: you for pursuing um, for handling the way you did,

1745
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: and for telling Derek and Derek. Great on you as well.

1746
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: So to have a little more fun with this. I

1747
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,799
Speaker 1: mean this is not like a heavy, like sad conversation,

1748
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: but they have a little more fun with this. I

1749
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: want to ask you, well, now Derek's in the place

1750
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: we've seen it be or from paradise. Now he's being

1751
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: talked about as the next Bachelor. I mean he is

1752
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: literally last night on a poll that was done on

1753
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: social media, he is now in third place behind uh

1754
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, uh Peter, and then you have Derek. Is

1755
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: there a chance that Derek Peth could be the next Bachelor?

1756
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: I think anything is possible. I will go ahead and

1757
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: do it on your podcast. Uh I am hundred percent

1758
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: team Derek for Bachelor. Like one, he's my good friend. Um,

1759
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 1: but I have like a whole spiel on it cause

1760
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it a lot. Derek is thirty

1761
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: two years old, so that means the women that will

1762
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: come to The Bachelor will be older than twenty two

1763
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: years old, because that would be a big age gap, right.

1764
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of one of the issues

1765
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: with Golden Season. He was just so young that a

1766
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: lot of the women were very young and hard to

1767
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: relate to. No. Two, Derek has a normal job. He's

1768
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: like the s v P of a bank or something.

1769
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: I don't really know what he does. It's like he's

1770
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: like Chandler Bying, where no one really knows what he does,

1771
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a job. It's a real job

1772
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: right in New York. And then the uh there for

1773
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: the right reasons thing, we know that Derek isn't going

1774
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: to try to start some career as a singer or

1775
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: a model or something, um, because he already has a career,

1776
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: and he already got engaged on the show and then

1777
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: got his heart broken in that situation. And he looks

1778
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: like John Krazinski, so like though all those things make

1779
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 1: me think that, like, Mike's a great guy, Tyler is

1780
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: dating Gid apparently, so he's out. I guess Pilot Pete

1781
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: seems like a really, really nice guy as well. But Pilot,

1782
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: he hasn't been on my TV in a while. You

1783
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: know who has, Derek, so I think it's a possibility.

1784
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 1: I think he would be a really good one. I

1785
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: thought what he showed last night is a hard thing

1786
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: to do, and it was one of the problems that

1787
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't do when I was on that show, which

1788
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: was be funny, be honest, and then also um, be

1789
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: authentic and like showing your feelings. I was never good

1790
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: at Chris. I never cried on TV, not once, and

1791
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: that guy did all those things. I thought, really, really, well,

1792
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? I've always said, I don't know

1793
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: any of those other guys. I really don't even know Derek.

1794
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I would agree with every point you made, especially the

1795
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 1: I know who's been on my TV recently, and that's Derek.

1796
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: I think Mike has a great shot because the franchise

1797
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 1: has to have a black batchlor a Bachelor that we're

1798
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: not maybe have seen for twenty I don't know how

1799
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: many seasons have been on, and he's a he's a

1800
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: good dude for it. He's a great guy, and women

1801
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: like him and he's a big presence. And I mean,

1802
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: if if we're not going to choose my guy, I

1803
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know who you would choose, and I don't know

1804
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 1: what's going on. So it would be surprising to me

1805
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: if Mike isn't chosen. Really it would. If you asked

1806
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: me today, I would say that Peter is number one,

1807
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: Mike's number two, Derek's number three. I just I think

1808
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 1: we would all be too confused at why Mike wasn't chosen.

1809
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 1: If Mike isn't chosen as the Bachelor, I think I

1810
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: would raise too many questions that are probably semi legitimate,

1811
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: and but here, but the caveat to that, a caveat

1812
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 1: to that is this taking anything else out of consideration.

1813
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: And let's just talk about the stories that are being

1814
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: told on television and the men right now that we're

1815
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: fully in supportive and rooting for. Derek. Peth is up

1816
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: there with anybody else I've ever watched, And Colton's a

1817
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: buddy of mine. Colton is a friend of mine. I

1818
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: was not in favor of him being The Bachelor. I

1819
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: did not think it was a good idea. I was

1820
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: not rooting for him. I was rooting for him to

1821
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: find love. I didn't think he was ready for a

1822
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: true love. I didn't think he was in a place

1823
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: in his life. It didn't seem like that he was

1824
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: fully sold out on pursuing a part. Now, he proved

1825
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: me wrong, and I've said that he did. He proved

1826
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: me wrong, and he's with Cassie and their dating and

1827
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: it seems like it's going really great and good for him.

1828
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: So he did that and he did it well. But

1829
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: coming off of the show The Bachelor or in Paradise,

1830
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't in team Colton. I'm I'm rooting for Derek somehow,

1831
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: some way. I want to see him get a legitimate

1832
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: shotify life, and I know, I know how powerful the

1833
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: show can be to help you get there. That's the

1834
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: thing is, I want somebody walking in to be the Bachelor,

1835
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: with no ulterior motives, no no foresight of I hope

1836
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: this brings me a new job, or I hope this

1837
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: brings me more money or more attention or whatever I

1838
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: think that will come. It just happens. I want somebody

1839
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: walking in to be the bachelor to say I'm going

1840
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: to give it my all to find a partner in

1841
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,799
Speaker 1: this experience, and even if it fails, I at least

1842
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: gave it my all because it was a gift handed

1843
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: to me to sue people that I typically would never

1844
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: have the chance to pursue. And Derek Pet is somebody

1845
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,560
Speaker 1: that I can fully get behind that right now, I

1846
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: can and I will say I think those three guys

1847
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: all have a shot. I think they're all be great

1848
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: at it. I'm not against any of them at this point,

1849
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: but Derek Pet definitely stands out to me as somebody

1850
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for. Do you find it odd that you're

1851
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of Mike on your TV screen

1852
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: just in general? Yeah? It is. I think that was

1853
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: one of the things, is like I watched Bachelor Paradise,

1854
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: and why am I not rooting for Mike's or he's there? Like,

1855
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: why am I not? Why? Why is my heart not

1856
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: being pulled at this guy? I just haven't seen him.

1857
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what he's doing

1858
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and they're not even using him with

1859
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 1: like interviews and stuff to like narrate, so like he's

1860
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: still omni president, even though like he's not in a

1861
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: relationship or like him and Sydney aren't like one of

1862
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: the strongest couples. I find that interesting. And I'm not

1863
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 1: a producer, so I'm not involved in any of that.

1864
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: But I try to look at it through the prism

1865
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: of like, well, if they're trying to build someone up

1866
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: and not someone else, this is how I would do.

1867
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't show them a whole lot and I

1868
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: show the other person a whole lot. You know, Yeah, no,

1869
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: I I agreed. I think that is something that's and hey,

1870
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm a fan as much anybody else. Now, Like I

1871
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: watched the show, and I root for the people I see.

1872
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I do. I mean, that's just part of it. I

1873
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: see Derek crying on the beach and getting his heart

1874
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: torn out twice now, and I go, that's a guy

1875
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: want I want to root for. Like, he's not arrogant,

1876
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: he's not an adul he's a nice dude who's trying

1877
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: really hard to find a partner, and I'll root for him. Uh,

1878
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what Mike story looks like.

1879
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: At the end, I could be switching gears and at

1880
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: the end of this being like, oh, please choose Mikes

1881
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 1: hearts broken. I don't know, maybe, but right now I'm

1882
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Derek somehow, some way, and I want

1883
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: him to find love. It well, um, I think it's

1884
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: a good summary of this week's episode. I want to

1885
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: finalize where we're getta a lot of emails right now

1886
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,879
Speaker 1: about the Twitter wars. I don't want to mention anybody's

1887
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: names because I really don't want to give anybody any

1888
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: type of attention or satisfaction for their just complete hatred

1889
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But I want to lay this question out

1890
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: there because it's been asking a kind of different arenas

1891
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: and in different ways. What is it about this world

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Speaker 1: that seems to be make people so vengeful against each other?

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Speaker 1: We're seeing it now, and and it also gives people

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Speaker 1: a platform that probably shouldn't have a platform to speak

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Speaker 1: about topics, if it's gay rights, or if it's minority rights,

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Speaker 1: or if it is social justice for any person that

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Speaker 1: is suffering from any injustice. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: we have all of these Bachelor people taking a stand. Now,

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Speaker 1: granted I'm guilty of that. I ran for office, like

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Speaker 1: I'm in that world, So I will put myself in

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Speaker 1: that category. I don't think I am qualified to know

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Speaker 1: how every single person that is hurting should feel or

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Speaker 1: how that issue should be solved. But the dangerous part

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Speaker 1: right now, wells is we're seemed to be over the

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Speaker 1: last six months in an environment where hatred seems to

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Speaker 1: be being displayed, not from the trolls on the online

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Speaker 1: but from the people that have the platform. And for me,

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Speaker 1: that is a switch that seems scary and not great. Yeah, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I think right now in our society is it is um,

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Speaker 1: it's not even being condemned, it's almost being celebrated that

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Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want to say and um,

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Speaker 1: and you're not shunned Ford or whatever you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: praised or I mean, and from the top down, you know,

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Speaker 1: like some of the biggest politicians in the world can

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Speaker 1: say whatever they want on social media and it's a

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Speaker 1: little scary. Um, there's I don't know how to answer

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Speaker 1: that question. I'm just not that guy, dude, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a waka waka waka let's tell a funny joke

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Speaker 1: on Twitter guy, and like that's just what my thing is.

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Speaker 1: When people when people okay, had a programmed director in

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Speaker 1: radio years ago that said, you can talk about whatever

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Speaker 1: the hell you want to talk about, but never talk

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Speaker 1: about politics. And I said why and he said, well,

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Speaker 1: the second you talk about politics, half the people that

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Speaker 1: are listening to you I don't agree with you and

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Speaker 1: hate you. And guess what they do. They punch out.

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Speaker 1: And if they punch out, then alreadys go down and

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Speaker 1: everyone fails. And I feel like that's kind of what's

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Speaker 1: happening in this situation is a bunch of people are

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Speaker 1: punching out because half of them don't care about what

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Speaker 1: the other people are saying. Here's here's the finalized this

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Speaker 1: whole thought is I feel like maybe we've never had it,

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Speaker 1: and now that we all have a little platform to

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Speaker 1: speak on, have we lost our ability to reason? So

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Speaker 1: what happens when when when Hayte is beauty, it takes

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Speaker 1: away the ability to be curious, to adjust, to reason,

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Speaker 1: and to come to any type of truth whatsoever. And

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Speaker 1: I just think if the Bachelor World is going to

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Speaker 1: continue on this path, it's going to isolate every single

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Speaker 1: person that comes on the show. And as ultimately, and

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Speaker 1: here's why I'm even bringing up, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: really bad look for the show, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: a really bad look for any future contestant to come

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Speaker 1: on the show because the more and more we the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor people, including myself, and I've got a process through

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Speaker 1: this isolate the masses. It's a it's a representation of

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Speaker 1: anybody that comes on the show in the future. And

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Speaker 1: I think we do have an obligation to try to

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Speaker 1: protect our platforms and who are who are who? Who

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Speaker 1: is our following? And it feels like right now with

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Speaker 1: the hatred being skewed, there is no reason and there

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Speaker 1: is no truth being told. Yeah, I mean a little

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Speaker 1: bit of it seems like, Um, I'm no longer in

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Speaker 1: the spotlights, so if I say some weird stuff, then um,

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Speaker 1: people will notice and um, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I get that high of a bunch of people are

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Speaker 1: are giving a crap about what I'm saying. Thing. Um,

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Speaker 1: but that comes to the cost, as and that cost

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Speaker 1: is generally, Um, you look like a tool. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't know how to just I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to answer your question. Man. We live

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Speaker 1: in a weird world where people are celebrated for saying

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Speaker 1: bad things. Yeah, well, I think that's I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good way to answer the question is let's accept

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Speaker 1: that and one with this, be kind for everyone you

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Speaker 1: know is fighting a hard battle, and every second, Wells,

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Speaker 1: we're creating a story. Wells Adams, the co host of

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Speaker 1: the century, thank you for being on the almost favorite podcast. Wells.

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Speaker 1: Follow my lead here, I've been been and I've been

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Speaker 1: Ashley Leader. Guys. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts.