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Speaker 1: stuff mom ever told you. Now today, if I sound

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Speaker 1: today we'll probably be a bit of a weird episode.

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Speaker 1: I just want to warn you now this is the

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Speaker 1: the Emily Bridget chemistry is one of my favorite things

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Speaker 1: is our chemistry, which will continue and you couldn't shake

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Speaker 1: do after this episode, I should do. It's funny to

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Speaker 1: So you're a badass and every loved you. And I

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