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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we be a shortened version of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Here on Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: We are both in studio. I got a couple of

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Speaker 2: comments yesterday Steve. Somebody said, was Steve still out of

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Speaker 2: town and you were in studio or was it the

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Speaker 2: other way around that. I was like, oh no, we

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Speaker 2: were right next to each other. But our two shot

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Speaker 2: camera remembers down. So for our MSG viewers that see

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Speaker 2: us appearing on a split screen, we are right next

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Speaker 2: to each other, right like fall off my chair.

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Speaker 3: We uh yeah, it's it's the weirdest thing because I

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Speaker 3: to make it kind of have a sense of what

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Speaker 3: we're doing. I'm I look at the camera like when Brown,

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Speaker 3: I try to look at the camera. I'm on, well Brown,

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Speaker 3: he's talking, he's right here. Yeah, So I kind of

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Speaker 3: look like this when I'm watching, and it looks I

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Speaker 3: think it looks awkward. Although they do have a setup

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Speaker 3: so that when I look towards you, I'm actually looking

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Speaker 3: at you on the screen, so't looking away. It looks good.

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Speaker 3: So it looks kind of like it's supposed to. But yeah, weirdo.

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Speaker 3: But the camera's busted, so we look strange.

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Speaker 2: So it'll it'll get fixed sooner rather than later, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get back to kind of the normal look that

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Speaker 2: we have for the show. But it doesn't change the

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Speaker 2: content of the show. And Steve and I were shoulder

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Speaker 2: deep and Euro Cup soccer just a short time ago

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Speaker 2: as we watched the twelve o'clock games while getting ready

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Speaker 2: for the show, and I can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 2: I know there are people that are soccer fans and

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Speaker 2: people that aren't, but man, it's just I'm soaking it

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Speaker 2: up like a sponge. It's great. Then you got Copa

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Speaker 2: America tonight. US plays again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Lvinia playing Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: No, it was Belgium playing Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Belgium and Ukraine was playing Slovakia.

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Speaker 2: No, Ukraine was playing Belgium and Romania was playing Slovakia.

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Speaker 2: They were all in the same group together. All four

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Speaker 2: teams had two points and both teams tied, so I

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Speaker 2: think the team with the lowest goal differential was Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: So unfortunately they are out kind of feel for those guys.

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Speaker 2: They're dealing with enough on the home front. It would

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Speaker 2: have been nice if they could have gone through the

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Speaker 2: they are the ones that are the odd team out.

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Speaker 2: But enough about soccer, we should go around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Here and around the NFL brought to you by Kaleida Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and some

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Speaker 2: interesting stories. This is supposed to be like the slow

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Speaker 2: time for the NFL calendar. There are some pretty noteworthy

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Speaker 2: stories out there today. First of which is the Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: City Council voted almost unanimously last night to approve an

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Speaker 2: agreement between the Jaguars and the city on a one

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Speaker 2: point four billion dollar renovation to EverBank Stadium. It brings

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars one step closer to securing the long term

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Speaker 2: stability of the franchise. Final hurdle getting the agreement approved

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Speaker 2: by three quarters of the owners at the league meetings

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Speaker 2: in October this fall in Atlanta. If that happens, construction

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Speaker 2: is scheduled to begin after the team's twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: season is over, and we'll be ready for the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight season. Jaguars in the city have agreed to

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Speaker 2: each contribute six hundred and twenty five million to the renovation,

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Speaker 2: so a fifty to fifty split there. The city does

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Speaker 2: over the next two years for maintenance and repairs while

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Speaker 2: they prepare the stadium for construction, So the city responsible

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Speaker 2: for fifty five percent of the total cost technically, but

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Speaker 2: any and all cost overruns. So the deal also.

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Speaker 3: And he'll also it also affects their game day operation.

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Speaker 3: Yeshod CON's going to pay for the game day operations

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Speaker 3: instead of the city eighty percent of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The deal also includes a thirty year lease agreement

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Speaker 2: tying the Jaguars to the city, which also contains a

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Speaker 2: non relocation clause. Obviously, if you're in Jacksonville, you're concerning

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Speaker 2: that team's moving to London, right, because they're technically the

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a natural built in concern that that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, thirty thirty year lease agreement that will

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Speaker 2: So that's tip of the hat to the Jacksonville City

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's kind of big because we've always thought that,

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Speaker 2: In other news AFC East news, according to ESPN's Jeff Darlington,

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins and Tua Tonga Iiloa don't seem to

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Speaker 2: a contract extension for the quarterback. Miami, according to Darlington,

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff recently signed massive extensions

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Speaker 2: that are presumably impacting the negotiations between the Dolphins and Tua.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville obviously signed Lawrence to a deal that averages fifty

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Speaker 2: I mean Tua has every right, in my opinion, to

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Speaker 2: had a down year, gets top of the market money.

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Speaker 2: How can you have a leg to stand on if

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Speaker 2: you're Miami to say the guy that led the league

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Speaker 2: how you have a leg to stand on if you're

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Speaker 3: You yeah, logically you don't, except when you watch him play.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence has got a big time arm, he's and

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Speaker 3: he's a great athlete. Tua is an accurate thrower with

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Speaker 3: a medium arm. And he's not a system quarterback, and

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Speaker 3: he's and he's non athletic, or he's not a runner.

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Speaker 3: He just has more. You know, Trevor Lawrence has more

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Speaker 3: weapons in his arsenal than Tua does physically and in himself. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins have a lot of weapons, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: I mean got you know, Tyreek and Jalen Waddle and

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Speaker 3: throw it well enough, even though he led the league

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Speaker 3: in passing. I mean, Mike McDaniels deserves fifty five million,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what what is the alternative? It's Mike White.

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Speaker 2: Mike White is your backup quarterback, who, for those that

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Speaker 2: I mean, Miami wants to play hardball. Why are you

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a tough spot, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a tough spot when they took

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Speaker 2: Well, right, that was a mistake. And now you're in

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Speaker 2: that bed and you're lying in it, and to me,

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Speaker 2: you're you don't have a better option right now. There

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Speaker 2: isn't a viable option out there that you can turn to.

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Speaker 2: That no where you can definitively say, we're just as

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Speaker 2: good with this guy as we would be with Tua.

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Speaker 2: You gotta pay him. You've backed yourself into it.

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Speaker 3: Either you pay him or he's gonna walk away, and

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Speaker 3: then you're done. You don't have anybody and you get

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Speaker 2: And if I'm too, I'm playing hardball.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can.

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Speaker 2: You've got him between a rock and a hard play.

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Speaker 3: You could franchise man. Tua could say, okay, franchise and

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Speaker 3: and Tua. That's up to Tua to come back and

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Speaker 2: You don't have to sign it.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to sign it, but if he does,

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Speaker 3: it's guaranteed to come in and get the money, do

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Speaker 2: But here here's the other component. Two. If if you

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Speaker 2: accounts unequivocally backed in the locker room now by Tyreek,

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Speaker 2: threatening to deep six our season because you don't want

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Speaker 2: That that's gonna go south in a hurry. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: When do you think this gets resolved? Man?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's resolved by the start of training.

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Speaker 3: King, you and I are sitting here, we're a million

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Speaker 3: fifty five million, right, And you're gonna have to bite

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Speaker 3: But you're and you can't even make the playoffs with

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Speaker 3: him and he led the league in passing. What are

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Speaker 3: more yards and power. What do you get? What's he

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence went the wrong way last year and they

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Speaker 2: paid him top of the market money, Like.

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Speaker 3: What do you? Yeah? What do you? What are the

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Speaker 2: What they were like, Oh crap, we should have got

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Speaker 2: longer you wait, the more you are going to pay.

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Speaker 2: That is a guarantee, it absolutely because the market is

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Speaker 3: For the most always goes up because the cap always

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Speaker 3: gets bigger. That sophs Miami Dolphins are gonna lose lose

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Speaker 3: situation if they sign him and pay him all that money.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna put up numbers because of the head coach

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Speaker 3: unless you change head coaches. But he's gonna put up

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Speaker 3: numbers and you're not going to go anywhere. He's just

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Speaker 3: he doesn't give you enough plays.

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Speaker 2: Off the script from where we sit in these seats,

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Speaker 2: we want the Dolphins to extend him because as as

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Speaker 2: much as Steve said, the longer Tua is playing for

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the longer the Bills have a leg up

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Speaker 2: on Miami because their quarterback is better than Miami's quarterback

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Speaker 2: and that's never going to change.

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Speaker 3: That's not well. These two guys are playing.

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Speaker 2: So so long as that's the case, you want the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins to sign Ta to an extension. I just I

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Speaker 3: He was a fun he's a fun guy to watch.

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Speaker 3: He's a lot like Josh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have to completely change everything.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's that's tough, Yeah, it is. That's man.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's also the kind of story you'd expect

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Speaker 3: Oh? You're right.

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Speaker 2: There always seems to be some kind of nefarious.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they had a heads up before they

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Speaker 2: If you're trying to get your first head coaching job

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Speaker 2: on that. That's tough. Yeah, that is twenty eight million.

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Speaker 3: Man, and it's having nothing to show for it too,

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Speaker 3: That is bad. Who twenty eight million off the top?

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Speaker 3: We'll take twenty eight million off the top? Please, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Oh so all of it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's goodness. That's where that is. Last little note

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think he asked Pope Francis

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the expense of Daniel Jones probably, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: so Tommy could get back on the field, that would

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Speaker 2: Thank you and God blessed.

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Speaker 3: That is funny, Tommy DeVito, Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, all right, so let's do this, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: How many games does Daniel Jones? How many games does

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Speaker 2: not start? How many games does he appear in for

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Speaker 3: Just four?

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Speaker 3: Right, He'll start one, appear in four Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: So a good over under it would be like four

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Speaker 3: Yeah, starts, just one starts all you need.

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Speaker 2: You know the level of faith I have in Daniel

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Speaker 3: I think we will. You'll finish the season.

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Speaker 2: No, I think we'll get to about week thirteen or fourteen.

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Speaker 2: The thing will have gone up in smoke and Tommy

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Speaker 2: DeVito will take to the field and Tommy Cutlets will be.

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Speaker 3: Back Tommy Cutlass and everyone will be hey, You'll be gone.

437
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm all about it. I like, Hey, Tommy DeVito, I'm

438
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is to me is a zero to me?

439
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: I can't, I don't. I don't know. He doesn't seem

440
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: like the kind of guy that you'd rally around, but

441
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: neither did Eli, and he won two world championships, so

442
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't know anything. So but that's not really true

443
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: once you got to know Eli. He's got a great

444
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: sense of humor, he's kind of yeah, he's kind of

445
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: a bro. Daniel Jones.

446
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Speaker 2: There's just something missing there. I can't even put my

447
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Speaker 2: finger on what it is.

448
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: He does.

449
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: Because he is athletic, he can run, he's got a

450
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: good enough arm.

451
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: Tommy cutlts and you know, he hasn't had the best.

452
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Speaker 2: Of talent around him. But all in all, I don't

453
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Speaker 2: know what it is.

454
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Speaker 3: There's just.

455
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones lacks charisma and I don't know how you

456
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: quantify that as a quarterback. But he's just not moving

457
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: the needle he does for anybody, including his teammates.

458
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: He does not move the needle. He even his press conferences.

459
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I.

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Speaker 2: Can't explain it he does. There's something missing there.

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00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, personality, I don't know.

462
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like josh Is has a magnetic personality. You can't

463
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: help but be sucked into his orbit if you're in

464
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: that Bill's locker room, you know what I mean.

465
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

466
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: I think and I realize everybody's different.

467
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're allowed to be different, no question about it.

468
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: You can be who you are, and you should be.

469
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: But there are certain things that work better as a

470
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 3: professional quarterback than being a guy who's comatose when he's awake.

471
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones just seems like he's like he's steady, no question,

472
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 3: but steady with a very low floor, you know. I mean,

473
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: it's just he's never spect he never seen him being spectacular.

474
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a good he's got an OK arm.

475
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: He's got a better arm than some quarterbacks. He's better

476
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: athlete than some quarterbacks. But he's never he's never superlative,

477
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

478
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: He's not raising the level of play of the guy.

479
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: He doesn't elevate the players around him.

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00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: In my opinion, very often he can't even elevate his

481
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: own game and crunch time. So yeah, it's fortunately for

482
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: the Giants they can get out from under that contract

483
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: that they signed him to after this season.

484
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Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito will make an appearance.

485
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think six games.

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Speaker 3: I think that might be. It might be. I don't know.

487
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

488
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: It is a lot.

489
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: That's a lot. It is a lot. But four games

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00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: I just won where he finishes it out because either

491
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 3: way ahead or way behind.

492
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: And look, the Giants are doing what they can to

493
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: give him more talent at the skill positions with Malik Neighbors.

494
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: But you lost Saquon Barkley, you replaced him with Devin Singletary.

495
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Those two players are not the same. And to me,

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Speaker 2: I think you can argue that the task is harder

497
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: now for Daniel jones A because he's coming back from

498
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: an ACL injury. There's a mental hurdle to clear there

499
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: with people moving around your feet in the pocket and stuff,

500
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: and then b the threat of the run game is

501
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: not nearly as daunting for opposing defenses as it used

502
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: to be. So now you respect their run game less

503
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: and you can target Daniel Jones as a defense more.

504
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a heavier lift for Daniel Jones this year.

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: Trading Saquon on your row. I'm not saying they literally

506
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: traded one player for the other, but letting saqu and

507
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: Barkley get out of the building and then bringing in

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Speaker 3: Devin Single terry sake one. Barkat and Devin Singletary are

509
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: not the same though, right that is. And Brian Dabole

510
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: knows that he was here with Devin Singletary. Now he

511
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: likes Devon and he knows what he gets from him,

512
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: and Devon's probably saving him a lot of cap space,

513
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: no question. But you know, Devin Singletary is a step

514
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: backward in their running back room and talent and effort,

515
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: not effort, but talent and ability. Yeah, oh my gosh.

516
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: So that is around the NFL presented by coloida Health

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. We have to

518
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Speaker 2: take a break here, but when we come back. NFL

519
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: dot COM's Chad Writer put a list together of his

520
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: all rookie team for twenty twenty four on offense. There

521
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: is a Buffalo Bill on that list, and it's probably

522
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: not who you think. And ESPN put together a list

523
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: of players that should have an eye kept on them

524
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: for every team in the NFL in training camp. Who

525
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: was the player for the Bills that they chose. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to both of those subjects when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Just one hour today,

530
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: just so you know. We will be one hour show

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Speaker 2: tomorrow two to three pm Eastern time, and then one

532
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: hour on Friday two to three pm Eastern time while

533
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Sabers Live gets an extra hour of coverage for the

534
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Speaker 2: NHL Draft.

535
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Speaker 3: And we'll go there and check them out.

536
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: They're out in Las Vegas. Oh yeah, I'll leave. They're

537
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: in some swanky man. They had a velvet couch behind them.

538
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: You know, not not that it's an'ting wrong with it.

539
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: We're going to we go to Saint John Fisher. They

540
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: go to the Sphere in Vegas.

541
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: It's about right.

542
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: We go, we go to the Alumni. We go to

543
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: the Alumni veran to behind behind the state Saint John

544
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Fisher and they go to Vegas. We have a great time.

545
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: We love the people with Saint John Fisher. But let's

546
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: be honest, not in the same stratosphere. Yeah, they they

547
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: got us right, although.

548
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 2: Although what as NFL employees, there's not much we can

549
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: do in Las Vegas anyway.

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 3: Well there's that, Yeah, yeah, do they have a dog?

551
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: We could go to shows?

552
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: They have dog track out there.

553
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: You can't do that either.

554
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: If you can bet the dogs, can't you I don't

555
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: think so. I don't bet anything. I don't think really

556
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: can't get the dog. I thought you could like bet

557
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: stuff that wasn't like football, And.

558
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere near anything in the entire realm

559
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: of that world either. You go to a couple of shows, though,

560
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: that would be good. Like the sphere. Do you know

561
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: anybody that's been in the sphere for a concert? I

562
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: know a few people that have done.

563
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

564
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: They said it is an unbelievable.

565
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: They can do anything. They can make it look like anything.

566
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's the thing because you know when when

567
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: we were a lot younger, you go to concert, it's

568
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: an audio experience. It's partially a visual experience because here

569
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: are the artists you listen to all the time. You

570
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: can see there. You know this is what they sound like.

571
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: Five you know now it is an immersive visual and

572
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Speaker 2: audio experience. I saw, I saw the risk could be

573
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Speaker 2: an oversens.

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Speaker 3: Its social One time they said, look at check this

575
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: shot out of the sphere. So they've got it's like

576
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: a big bank of seats in there, right brandstand inside there,

577
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: so you're kind of like amphitheater, like, yes, but it's round.

578
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: And so what happens is they make it look like

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Speaker 3: the sphere, like the roof comes off the sphere and

580
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: the sphere is rocketing up through the sky and you're

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Speaker 3: rising up above Las Vegas. It looks real. It looks

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Speaker 3: like the whole thing's leaving the earth and you're sitting

583
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Speaker 3: in it. Yeah. They also have chill out rooms, I

584
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: guess they call it. So if the you know, motion,

585
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: you're over stimulant. Yeah, if you get seasick in there

586
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: because it's you know, you react to the motion that

587
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: it looks like you're moving and you're not. So they

588
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: have places where you can go to get away.

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00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry, the spear gave me vertigo. I'm gonna

590
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: have to step out for a few minutes, right, Yeah,

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised it happened.

592
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: Pretty amazing facility.

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00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: We'll have to check and see if Marty and Duffer

594
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Speaker 2: are able to get out there or do a couple

595
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: of those things. As we told you before the break,

596
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: NFL dot Com writer Chad Reader put together his list

597
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four All Rookie team on offense.

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Speaker 2: These are projections, obviously, since twenty twenty four hasn't happened yet.

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00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Bill's running back Ray Davis made his squad. Here's what

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00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: he said about Davis.

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00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: Davis could be the.

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Speaker 2: Thunder to James Cook's lightning in the Bill's offense, giving

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00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo a more powerful one to two punch than it

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00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: had with Cook and Latavius Murray in twenty twenty three.

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: The rookie will thrive in the red zone, taking some

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00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: of the pressure off quarterback Josh Allen, who ran for

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00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: fifteen scores. Last season, Cook had just two rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Defenses filling the box against Davis on early downs could

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Speaker 2: be surprised by his ability as a receiver out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield. What do you make of that projection?

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00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta catch passes. I do. I

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00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: haven't seen Ray Davis do. We don't know. We don't

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Speaker 3: see those guys right right.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see much of them in the spring because

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00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: they were often practicing, they were on the air. Do

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Speaker 2: you want to know what I'll say. I think there's

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Speaker 2: some people short change in Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought too. We like you, and I

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Speaker 3: like Ty Johnson because he's fast, and he's got some

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Speaker 3: he put together too, Yeah, packed out. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: he's a thick dude, and and so is Ray Davis.

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Speaker 2: Davis is a little squattier. His build is a little

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Speaker 2: squattier than that of Ty Johnson. I mean he can

624
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: still he brings pop behind his pads, don't get me wrong,

625
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: but he's not as big and stout and filled out

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00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: as Ty Johnson is. Ty Jackson looks.

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Speaker 3: Like running backs are hard though. I mean it comes

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00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: down to usage opportunities targets scheme because all these guys,

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Speaker 3: when he stand them up next to you, they can.

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Speaker 3: They all got some great athletic ability and some great

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Speaker 3: skill sets and all of that. What sets them apart

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00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: usually is their opportunity and their their usage and their

633
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: offensive line versus your offensive line, and the defenses they

634
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: play versus the defenses you play. But Ty Johnson was

635
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: one of those guys. Man, he could, he could go.

636
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: He's really he's got some fat speed and he was

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Speaker 3: a great compliment to Cook last year.

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00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially when Damian Harris got hurt early in

639
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, And don't forget second half of the year,

640
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: thirty three year old Latavious Murray ran out of gas.

641
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: He was a step slower. It was noticeable. And so

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00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson for all intents and purposes, was the number

643
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: two back down the stretch last year when they won

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00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: five games.

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00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: In a row and went to the playoffs and through

646
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: the playoffs as well. Yeah, I would say, no question.

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00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: I mean, but listen, they drafted Ray Davis for a reason,

648
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: Oh question about it. They have there has some confidence

649
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: in him and they're intrigued by him. But it's not

650
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: because they don't like somebody else. And that's what you

651
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: got to remember. These guys are in competition and it's

652
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: going to come down to stuff. We'll never see how

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Speaker 3: they act in meetings. How how much the coaches can

654
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Speaker 3: trust Ray Davis. I think they know they can trust

655
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Speaker 3: Ty Johnson. He's done and he's proven it. What about

656
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Speaker 3: Ray Davis? Can he do it?

657
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Speaker 2: I mean I loved him as a draft pick when

658
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Speaker 2: they got him on early on Day three. He was

659
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite picks that they had in their

660
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Speaker 2: draft class because his production is undeniable. It was at

661
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Speaker 2: three different schools, which you know, to me says the

662
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: guy is not scheme dependent, right, He can be productive

663
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Speaker 2: in any kind of offense. So you know, there it is.

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Speaker 2: I so yeah. I mean, does that mean he's going

665
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Speaker 2: to beat out Ty Johnson week one? I'm possible, but

666
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Speaker 2: he's gonna have to show up and show out in

667
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Speaker 2: the preseason if that's gonna happen. But I could see

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Speaker 2: him factoring into the run game at some point in

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Speaker 2: the season. We know how running backs get beat up,

670
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Speaker 2: so he might be called to action just due to injury,

671
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Speaker 2: even if he doesn't get higher than RB three on

672
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Speaker 2: the depth chart. Because you need three at least.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and some of it will depend on which

674
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Speaker 3: of those guys Ty Johnson, Ray Davis can help out

675
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: another way. Special teams that that kind of thing's punt,

676
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Speaker 3: punt return, kick off, kickoff return, kickoff return seems to

677
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: be back on the table nowadays, or at least we anticipated.

678
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Speaker 3: It was down less than I don't know, less than

679
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: three hundred return kickoff returns last year in a two

680
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six game season, and that was down

681
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Speaker 3: from like thirteen hundred back in you know, just eight

682
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: years ago. So it has really really changed, and I

683
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: think they're trying to get it back to where they'll

684
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Speaker 3: get you know, maybe eighty eighty five percent of these

685
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Speaker 3: kicks return, maybe more than that, and that you need

686
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Speaker 3: somebody to do that and play on those teams. Now,

687
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: now it's gonna matter. It's not just guys standing out

688
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: there watching the kick going to the end zone and

689
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Speaker 3: walking off the field after a touchback.

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Speaker 2: And as we have surmised, it's gonna resemble more of

691
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Speaker 2: a line of scrimmage play. So a running back running

692
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Speaker 2: back might be just who you want to have back

693
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Speaker 2: there as a returner. So yeah, it'd be interesting to

694
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Speaker 2: see if he's part of that mix when we get

695
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Speaker 2: out to training camp in a few weeks. ESPN dot

696
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Speaker 2: com meanwhile put together a list of players you should

697
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Speaker 2: know from e NFL club heading into training camp in

698
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: just under a month, and for the Bills, they listed

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Speaker 2: kai Yer Elam, citing his multiple interceptions and OTAs in

700
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Speaker 2: mini camp. Elena Getzenberg from ESPN dot Com submitted this

701
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Speaker 2: for the Bills team and the fact that he got

702
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Speaker 2: a ton of action with Rasul Douglas missing OTAs and

703
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: Christian Benford missing mini camp. The players to watch for

704
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: the rest of the AFC's clubs we'll get to in

705
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Speaker 2: a second, but it seems like people are warming up

706
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Speaker 2: to Kyer Elam Steve and we're not even at training

707
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Speaker 2: camp yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, you and I said it. I mean you and

709
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Speaker 3: I are. We put him on the white board a

710
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Speaker 3: long time ago. As soon as they made the coordinator

711
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: change and may shuffled their defensive coaching staff. We figure,

712
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Speaker 3: you know what, there's a guy who's gonna get a

713
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Speaker 3: fresh look, particularly on a year when they're gonna have

714
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Speaker 3: turnover in the secondary. Kyer's positioned absolutely perfectly to take

715
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Speaker 3: advantage of it and I think he will. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I it was unfortunate that he suffered the injury last

717
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Speaker 2: year in training camp. None of us knew about it

718
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: because he didn't miss any time, and then he unfortunately

719
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: prevented that foot injury from healing and he had to

720
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Speaker 2: go on injured reserve about midway through the season and

721
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Speaker 2: then missed a handful of games and then came back

722
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: late in the season ended up helping this team out

723
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Speaker 2: when Rasull Douglas got hurt and the interception in the

724
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh playoff game was rusty and was the first to

725
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Speaker 2: admit it, but you would be too if you don't

726
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Speaker 2: play for ten games. I think he's going to get

727
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Speaker 2: a much longer look in training camp this year with

728
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Speaker 2: his new cornerbacks coach secondary coach Mike Dana. So I

729
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Speaker 2: am bullish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. On Kyrie, I don't think he's going to be

731
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Speaker 3: a healthy scratch at all this year. I think he's

732
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Speaker 3: going to be up on the fifty three avera.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, that's a given. And that's the question

734
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Speaker 2: is whether he's one of the top two outside It

735
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: wasn't the case last year he was inactive. We're going

736
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Speaker 2: to see him on the field I think in every

737
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Speaker 2: game that he's healthy. I do think, because we just

738
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Speaker 2: noticed this yesterday or the day before, I can't remember. Now,

739
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Speaker 2: I went on I saw that the Bill's cap space

740
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Speaker 2: was listed at eleven point two million dollars by the

741
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Speaker 2: NFLPA site. And that's more money than I thought they

742
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Speaker 2: were going to have, because just a few weeks ago

743
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Speaker 2: it was listed at seven point five, and I realized

744
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: it's always a moving number. Eleven point two gives you

745
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Speaker 2: the option to sign a veteran here right before camp,

746
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Speaker 2: and I think cornerback would be high on that list,

747
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Speaker 2: just for some depth. I'm not saying you got to

748
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Speaker 2: get a frontline player like a Stefan Gilmour who's still

749
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Speaker 2: out there, but you can get some. You can get

750
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Speaker 2: a nice veteran depth piece at corner right before camp

751
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Speaker 2: to just add to the mix. With eleven point two

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Speaker 2: at your disposal.

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Speaker 3: If there's a guy out there that they liked, sure

754
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Speaker 3: they could. I'd once again, and we don't know what

755
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: the coaches think about their own guys, let alone, that's

756
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: trails they may like where they're at up there. I

757
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if they did. But that

758
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they feel like they've got enough guys that

759
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: can really go. They have. Brandon Bean has always said

760
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: he's going to bring in competition, and he's he's doing that.

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Speaker 3: The wide receiver room is unbelievably stacked with guys that

762
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Speaker 3: are feel like they've got a chance to be on

763
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Speaker 3: the team and contribute, not alone, not just get a

764
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Speaker 3: practice squad or hang it around. They feel like they

765
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Speaker 3: can actually this is their place. Mac Hollins, Chase Claypool,

766
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Speaker 3: mvs and of course Keon Coleman. They're all really vying

767
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Speaker 3: for those spots. Yeah, you know, I think I think

768
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Speaker 3: Kyrie Elam and these secondary guys are just like that.

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Speaker 3: I think they feel like this is the moment for them.

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Speaker 3: This is a moment for a lot of guys on

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Speaker 3: this roster, and they really feel like they're gonna jump.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna jump at it.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We'll close it up with

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Speaker 2: one final segment where your turn here on One Bill's

775
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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Last segment, I said I would mention the players to

777
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Speaker 2: watch for the rest of the AFC's clubs in training

778
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: camp Dolphins tight end Jody Fortson, formerly of the Chiefs.

779
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: He was a backup there, but he's performed well through

780
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Speaker 2: the spring. But they have durham Smythe and John hu

781
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Smith there, so I don't know how that's gonna work

782
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: for New England. It's defensive lineman Keyon White. He was

783
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Speaker 2: one of their higher draft picks last year, entering a

784
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: second season for the Jets. It's running back Braylan Allen,

785
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: the rookie out of Wisconsin, expected to be Bryce Hall's back.

786
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Speaker 2: A big body at two hundred and thirty five pounds,

787
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Speaker 2: though he did have fumbling problems.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. It's gonna be a fun division.

789
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be. But as we said yesterday, best

790
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: offensive line in the division.

791
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Speaker 3: What's up today?

792
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Speaker 2: Big day today for me and the missus, twenty fifth

793
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Speaker 2: wedding anniversary. So happy anniversary to my lovely wife, Tracy.

794
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Speaker 2: You're simply the best. Couldn't ask for a better person

795
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: to have as a partner in life, So thank you

796
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: for putting.

797
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Speaker 3: Up with me.

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Speaker 2: You are simply the best. Thank you for that. And

799
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Speaker 2: we'll have a good time today. It'll be good.

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Speaker 3: So happy anniversary.

801
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're nowhere near your parents at seventy

802
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: five years. My god, O seventy.

803
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Speaker 3: Still ridiculously three weeks ago, so yeah, unbelievable.

804
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you're old.

805
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Speaker 3: I'm just hoping to live that long much when you've

806
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Speaker 3: got a kid that's seventy.

807
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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow, another one hour show, two to three.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then,