1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: This is up on Game. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hot Bye Hushbinzada for the touchdown. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: You want that NFL experience, watch it LeVar L two 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: then this is the show for you with LaVar Aring, Tich. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 4: Matt Carral could possibly play himself into the starting job, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 4: TJ Houshman Zana. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Leave those first round, Michae mccoins. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 5: Out of it, and Plexico Burres Tom Brady's no longer 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 5: there turned into a dictatorship up there, newing. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Three of the best to ever do it on and 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: off the field, Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studio. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Here's pro bowlers LaVar Aringtech, TJ. 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We got 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: a lot to get to on today's show and not 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: a lot of time. But one thing I'm sure you 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: guys will all be happy about. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, we're all on the show. We're all back, TJ. 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Plex, Stretch, Armstrom, Pateen, Man, everyone's back. 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: How's everybody doing, man, how y'all feeling? Man? 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 6: I'm good man, just been doing a little ripping and 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 6: running here, just trying to see what's out here, you know, 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 6: y'all how y'all being man? 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, traveling? 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 6: We got uh this crazy to see Elijah out here, 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: get these offers and then first track meet blowing people's 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: doors off. You know, see little Man man doing the 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 6: same thing. It's just it's evolution of these kids. Man, 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: right in front of our eyes. Man, they just growing 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 6: and growing, and that means we're getting older and older older. 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Man. Just like you say, man, I's been on the groove. Man. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: Like the last month I went down to you know 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: Ndeed know the Dame for the spring, and then last 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: weekend I was in Cleveland on Hio. My daughter was 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 5: playing in the All American Basketball Game and the woman 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: n CUAA final four. This this weekend, we me and 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: me and myself and little Man, we just got out 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: here to Charlotte, North Carolina. So we're gonna be going 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 5: to the Rivals football camp tomorrow nice and put a 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: stamp on it. So, man, just all over the place 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 5: right now. But you know what this Saturday, Voltron is 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 5: back to Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's back together. We can 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 5: fight evil. 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: And when you know what I mean, we got it. 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: We got it going on. 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: And speaking of fighting evil, and when it fellas I 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: wanted to start off the show with the discussion. 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Been hearing reports. 58 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: Out of Dallas that Cde Lamb could potentially be a 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: holdout candidate for this upcoming season. And also we'red from 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: inside that there's multiple people, more than people would would 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: imagine that are saying they would have no problem if 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: if Dallas were to part ways with Michael Parsons. 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to start that. 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to start to show off with this and 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: get y'all's perspective on first, Let's start with cdee Lamb. 66 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: Is this a good Is this a good move for 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: Cede Lamb? If they don't extend him. He did wait 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: another year, he didn't get an extension this past season. 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: Uh so this will be the final year of his contract. 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: Is this the right move for cdee Lamb to to 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: potentially hold out, if if not even in up holding 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: out for a new contract. 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 6: Listen, man number one. The Cowboys need to start being 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 6: proactive instead of reactive. Meaning when you have a young 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 6: player and you know he's a cornerstone player, Sonny, what 76 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 6: you waiting on? You didn't learn from Dak Dak Prescott's 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 6: contract didn't teach you guys a lesson. 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: You wait, you wait, and you wait, and that means 79 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: it's greater later. 80 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 6: You're gonna pay way more later than you would pay 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 6: if you get out in front of this, Like, you 82 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 6: can't let a guy in see thee Lamb yet you've 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 6: drafted high in the first round. 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: You can't let him go. You have to sign them. 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 6: And the longer you wait, the more you're going to pay. 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 6: Like it's almost crazy that they haven't negotiated something with 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 6: he now because it's, oh, we don't want to pay 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 6: him this, Well, guess what you're gonna pay him later 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: more than this. 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: And so. 91 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 6: If I'm City Lamb, it's a business because the way 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 6: the Cowboys are approaching this right now, they're approaching it 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: as a business. But when the player approaches it as 94 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 6: a business. Oh why are you holding down? You gonna 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 6: be with your teammates and be for the team. No, 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: you approach it the same way they approach it as 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: a business. And so for City Lamb, he'll be playing 98 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 6: on this fifth year option this season, which would be 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 6: just just a tad under eighteen million dollars. But he's earned, 100 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: he's earned a long term deal, and so would I report. 101 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 6: I would probably report. But the smart thing for him 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 6: to do is to hold out, like I'm not going 103 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: I'm not going to OTAs. 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to everything that's mandatory. That's me. 105 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 6: But in today's game, with what as much money as 106 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 6: these kids are making now, man, you have to do 107 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 6: what's best for you and approach it as a business 108 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: because they always approach it that way. 109 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: I mean, the number is going to be what the 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: number is. I mean, that's just the going rate for 111 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: all star wide receiver in this league. 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: That's just what it is now. 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: And from Dallas, I just I really just don't understand it, 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: because I mean, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, we're talking 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 5: about CD Lamb, he's arguably your best player on offense. 116 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 5: We know what the numbers are, we know what the 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 5: Justin Jeffersons are looking for the Jamar Chasers, all these 118 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: guys getting ready to come through the ranks. But for 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, without of cde Lamb, you don't have an offense. 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 5: So do you think that you're going to try to 121 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: set a president in not negotiating or trying to sign 122 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: Cede Lamb to bring him back to the Dallas Cowboys. 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 124 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: Go out there and find somebody better. I don't think 125 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the case at all, because when we're 126 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: talking about cde Lamb, he is easily one of the 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: top five players at his position, and you just don't 128 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 5: go into the draft or try to get somebody in 129 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: free agency because there's probably only three or four, maybe 130 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: two or three guys in the world that are better 131 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: than him than what he does. So if you're the 132 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, what else are you going to do? What 133 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: else are you going to do except sign them? 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: And the man? 135 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: Just like you said, DJ, the man has earned a 136 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: long term deal. And that's what these players are doing. 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 5: They listen, They basically have all the leverage these days. 138 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: And not to say that he has not earned it, 139 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: He has earned the right to say, you know what, 140 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: I'm not going to attend mini camp. OTA's I may 141 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: be a hold out going in the training camp. 142 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know. 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: But why wouldn't the Dallas Cowboys not sit down with 144 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb and his asient and try to rectify this 145 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: before these things go south. 146 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he wants to stay in Dallas. He 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: wants to remain in Dallas. But for them to not. 148 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: Exercise the option of giving this man a long term deal, 149 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: it just makes no sense at all. 150 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: All right, Let's quickly transition into Michael Parsons and the 151 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: conversations coming from within being. 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Leaked supposedly allegedly. 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: That there are multiple people more than people would imagine 154 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: that are basically saying that he's become difficult to deal 155 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: with or whatever, and that they wouldn't you know, whoever 156 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 4: these who they are people are, they wouldn't have a 157 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: problem if Michael Parsons wasn't in the building as a 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: as a Dallas Cowboy in the in the future, once 159 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: he's uh, you know, able to become a free agent 160 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: or something else may happen. I don't know, I find 161 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: out to be crazy. But what I mean what's y'alls, 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 4: what's y'all's take on that? 163 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Trade them? Trade them? Then? 164 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 6: If you really feel that way, it's almost Uh. I 165 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 6: don't understand, man, why these teams put these narratives out there? 166 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 7: Man? 167 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 6: Because honestly, when that story comes out, why don't the 168 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 6: Cowboys get out in front of that as soon as 169 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 6: it comes out and says, oh, no, no, no, no, 170 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 6: no no, we don't have a problem with Michael. We 171 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 6: don't know where this is coming from. Why have it 172 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 6: Why has it been radio silence since that report was 173 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: first leaked? 174 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Why? 175 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: Why because now players can do a podcast during the season. 176 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: Why because players can get their truth out, their story 177 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: out from their point of view, you don't have. 178 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: To go through them. 179 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: Why why I try to assassinate the man's character in 180 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 6: who he is and oh, it's his act is kind 181 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 6: of just running thin. 182 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: It's wearing people out. Okay, trade them, trade them. 183 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 6: If you don't like the way he's acting, trade them, 184 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 6: And if it's not true, come out and say something 185 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 6: to say that it isn't true. Because you do it 186 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 6: any other time, You do it any other time, and 187 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 6: so why not do it now with your best player? 188 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 6: He's the best player on Dallas Cowboys offense and defense. 189 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 6: He's the best player on the team. And so if 190 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 6: you were to trade him, guess what you can get 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: a king's ransom for a guy that has rubbed. 192 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: People the wrong way. 193 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 6: So if people don't like them, why not get a 194 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 6: king's ransom and get rid of a nuisance. That's what 195 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: I would do, right of course you would, no, And 196 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 6: so like I just he's up for a huge contract. 197 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 6: They're gonna pay him. He probably the highest paid defensive 198 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 6: player ever in the history the league. They're trying to 199 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 6: lower his value by assassinating his character and that's wrong. 200 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Man. 201 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: We're talking about Michael Parsons. Yes, we're talking about Michael 202 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: Parsons and the possibility of him not being a Dallas Cowboy. 203 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: He is one of those one of these generational athletes 204 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 5: and players playing the defensive end position that we have 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: seen over the last twenty years. Ar could be one 206 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: of the best right now. And if you're Jared Jones, 207 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 5: you have to be halfway crazy if you want to 208 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 5: get rid of or part ways with Michael Passons. It's 209 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 5: like you said to that you can get a Kings transformed. 210 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 5: But for the next ten years, you'll probably be the 211 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 5: worst team in the division. So it makes no sense 212 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: for us even to be entertaining the fact that Michael 213 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: Passs is not going to be a part of this 214 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 5: football team. It's like you said, they are trying to 215 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: assess fascinate this man's character because these contracts that these 216 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 5: guys are getting defensively or who just signed the biggest 217 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 5: contract as a defensive alignment? 218 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Who was that? Bos was the one I got? Yeah, Bosa? 219 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 5: And can we not sit here and say today that 220 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: you think that you don't think Michael Parsons is a 221 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 5: better player than Bosam. 222 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: You can make the argument either way. You can make 223 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the argument. As long as you can make the argument, 224 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: then the argument is. The argument is the argument. So 225 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: let's just so let's just stay there and say that. 226 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: If it's an argument, if we have an argument that 227 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: one is one A and one is one B, then 228 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: the contract is what it is. Nobody's going to be 229 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 5: able to get away from giving these guys these contracts 230 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 5: because they have created this themselves, the players rightfully so, 231 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: and the owners to these players are recognizing that, you 232 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: know what, I have an opportunity to do something financially 233 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 5: that even when I started playing this game on coming 234 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 5: into this league. 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: It's even bigger than what I thought it was. 236 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: And these players are going to do everything in their 237 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: power to get everything that they deserve. And Michael Parsons, 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: if Bosa is the highest played defensive player in the league, 239 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 5: then Michael Parsons he needs to be right there with 240 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: them or being paid more than a Bosa. 241 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: I'll say that's heading into the break Fellas. 242 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 4: Both topics put together, and a conclusion coming from it 243 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: is this just speaks to what apparently looks to be dysfunction, 244 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 4: and the dysfunction that you would say you equate to 245 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: why a team that has so much talent can't win. 246 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: You go from you go from big name player the 247 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: big name player, and it just seems like when you 248 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: hear things like this, if that's what's what's coming from 249 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: inside of the offices of the facilities of the team itself, 250 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: take Dallas out of the equation. If you're hearing that 251 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: from any team out there or any organization out there, 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: that says total dysfunction to me, why would you allow 253 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: for that, as you mentioned TJ, why would you allow 254 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: for that to be a narrative that isn't combat. 255 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: It addressed immediately upon hearing it, and it wasn't. 256 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: So maybe they did it internally, but that still doesn't 257 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: do anything for those two young men externally as it 258 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: applies to how the fan base and how the media 259 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: are taking hold of it. But it'd be interesting to 260 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: see how that plays out. 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I'm just I'm 314 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: trying to think of what direction to take the conversation 315 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: in Fellas, and I guess the most maybe most relevant 316 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: one would be, is OJ Simpson the most despised hated 317 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: sports hero that you can think of in the history 318 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: of sports? Because I can honestly say I have not 319 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: heard too much, if any, narratives that would be considered 320 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: to be positive about OJ Simpson. The biggest story and 321 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: the biggest conversation point with OJ Simpson is clearly and 322 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: obviously the double murders that took place, that he was 323 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: accused of and found innocent of doing it. Now, granted, 324 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: keep in mind, the burden of proof is to prove 325 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: that that's what you did. 326 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Without a doubt. 327 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: I think that's how you said, I don't know, but anyway, 328 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: it's not the fact that I don't know. Anyways, I 329 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: don't want to get into the legal jargon of it all. 330 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 4: Is this guy the most hated, Like he's dead now, 331 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: he died, he passed away, and yet people are are happy, 332 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: They're super happy that he's died. They're they're they're right 333 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: raveling and the reveling and the idea of him, you know, 334 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: being dead and having no sympathies towards it. 335 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: Is this the right approach? How how do you feel 336 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: about it? 337 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 6: Man? This is this is tough, LeVar, because when when 338 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 6: you when you talk about oh J. Simpson a football player, 339 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 6: one of the greatest running backs to ever play. 340 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: But it's hard to just talk about oh J. 341 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 6: Simpson a football player without bringing up and at least 342 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: being aware of what he went to trial for Although 343 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 6: he was found not guilty, many including myself, felt he 344 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 6: was guilty. I mean, you don't hop in the Bronco 345 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 6: and get on the ninety one freeway. I mean he 346 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 6: would rolling right by my house. And so if you 347 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 6: don't do that, and it sucks for the families of 348 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 6: the victims, his children, himself. But he was found not 349 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 6: guilty of it, and again many people thought he was guilty. 350 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 6: And I felt like society got him back when he 351 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 6: ended up having to go to prison. Although he was 352 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 6: able to come out of prison and it looks like 353 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: lead somewhat of a productive life. 354 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: But when you. 355 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: Take the lives of two people, and again, although he 356 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 6: was found not guilty, this is just my opinion. 357 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: Man. 358 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: It's tough that when you hear that name, that's the 359 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: first thing I think about it. I don't even think 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 6: about the football player anymore. I think about kids that 361 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 6: don't have their mother any longer and parents that don't 362 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 6: know they no longer have their children, And so that 363 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 6: there is tough. It's hard to uh think of that 364 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 6: name and not have the empathy towards those that were affected. 365 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: Man, it's it's kind of you know, uh, you know, 366 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 5: mixed emotions. I think all across the board. I've know, 367 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 5: I've met Ojay and you know, sat down and had 368 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 5: conversations with him. But but the people, a lot, most 369 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 5: of the people that that I know who are friends 370 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: of oj You gotta remember, like back in you know, 371 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 5: his time man they say as a hero. 372 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, he was a hero. 373 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 5: He was more recognizable than the president at one time 374 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 5: based off of you know, his college career at USC 375 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy and obviously you know, being the first running 376 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 5: back in history to run for two thousand yards back 377 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: in you know the seventies, and you know, all of 378 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: those things and then you know, everything transpired. I think 379 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 5: that the the saddest part about it is that like 380 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 5: nobody got any closure, like those people that were passed away, 381 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: and now you know, he has perished, and it's just 382 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: unfortunate that, you know, I don't know who, I don't 383 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: have an opinion, but it is a legacy of himself 384 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: is what it's going to be. It just depends on 385 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 5: you know, what side of the fence you are, you know, 386 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 5: with O. J. Simpson as far as you know, just 387 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 5: like you said, TJ, like you know, everybody has their 388 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 5: own you know, speculation or opinion of him, but he 389 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 5: went to court and he was felt not guilty, but 390 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: that would never be enough, I feel like, so it's 391 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: kind of for me I have. I had a chance 392 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 5: to meet him and sit down with him a few 393 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: times man, and you know, obviously I have some good 394 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: conversations with him. But at the end of the day, 395 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: I mean, just like you said, people, parents, his legacy 396 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: will go on as whatever you portray it to be 397 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: or however you feel you know about him, and that's 398 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: what is always going to be for Oj Simpson. It's 399 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: just this unfortunate thing for him and in his family 400 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 5: extended family who are still living. Those are the people 401 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 5: that are going to have to live with that and 402 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: carry that on with them too, for the rest of 403 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 5: their lives. 404 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: You know. The first thing I kind of when I 405 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 4: sat on when this happened, because I had to talk 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: about we were on air on two Pros and a 407 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: Cup of Joe when the well, we were doing the 408 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 4: Dan Patrick Show when the news broke. Don't y'all find 409 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: it kind of strange that there was never a very 410 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: very assertive effort and attempt by Oj Simpson. 411 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 6: Two really really clear up the fact that he did 412 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 6: not do it felt like I mean, obviously, again this 413 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 6: is my opinion. 414 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: He felt like. 415 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 6: The trial was it cleared up everything that that's what 416 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: he felt. I mean, obviously, why would he come out 417 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 6: and say something because he went. 418 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: To trial, because the world continued to say exactly what 419 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: you are saying and saying the and spewing the hate 420 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: towards him that that it did. Why wouldn't he make 421 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: an assertive effort to like, why would you come out 422 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: with books if I were to do it type stuff? 423 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: Like why were these narratives coming out? I just to myself, 424 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: you were such a major sports figure. You were nicknamed 425 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: the juice. Everybody. Everybody knew who he was, Like you said, plex, 426 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: everybody was a fan. 427 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 6: I mean him and Jim Brown were one of the 428 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 6: first two football players that kind of turned into movie stars. 429 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean he was a movie are brot? Yeah, I 430 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: mean he was on that level. He was on that level. 431 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 6: The majority of society had already formed an opinion prior 432 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: to the trial. They had already formed an opinion he 433 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 6: was guilty, he did it. Why did he run? If 434 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 6: you not, if you're not guilty, you're not running and 435 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 6: so a lot of people had already formed. 436 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: And by the way, another another major piece of that 437 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: is he I mean, he had a gun and was 438 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: talking about he was going to end it. 439 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: You know what. You got a gun in the backseat 440 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: of the car for in the truck, and you're about 441 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: to end it. 442 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: And it's kind of crazy to me that, in knowing 443 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: that you had the opportunity to have one of the 444 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: most iconic legacies connected to sport, you turned into one 445 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: of the most polarizing, infamous people maybe ever in the 446 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: history of sports. And I just find it intriguing that 447 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: this is this is one of those those stories where 448 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: it's like this man just died, like he just passed away, 449 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 4: And I don't I almost feel like there was like 450 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: a collective sense of relief that the man passed away. 451 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever felt or heard or 452 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: experienced anything like this in my entire life. 453 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: Hey, Lava, let me ask you something. Let me ask 454 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: you a question. Let me ask you a question. How 455 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 5: do you feel about the fact that, to my knowledge, 456 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 5: that not one teammate that he played with put anything 457 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 5: out on social media about him as being the man 458 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: little football player that they played with not one teammate 459 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 5: said anything. 460 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? 461 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: I mean I did, and I didn't really see anything 462 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: coming out that outside of like the obvious, like the 463 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: family statements, stuff like that. There was nothing positive that 464 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: came out about him. Nothing and you could you could 465 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: throw in there, like you know, contemporaries like Marcus Allen, 466 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, different things like that. You know, I think 467 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: that the Hosmotrophy posted something which I thought was was 468 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: was crazy nice about about that, But from a teammates standpoint, 469 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 4: not one. 470 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Because teammates knew him before you played with yea in. 471 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: College and in professional and nobody that had my man 472 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: back to say anything good about him as a man 473 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 5: or a football player. 474 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 475 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if Marcus put something on 476 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 4: his story and I missed it, but I know he 477 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: didn't put nothing on his on his I g about it. 478 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: That would have been the one I would have, you know, 479 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: I looked for and wanted to see what that, what 480 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: that looked like, what that represented that that didn't take place. 481 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: I really feel like, I really feel. 482 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: Like in this instant, in this instance that again I 483 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: think the the over overwhelming conclusion to his passing was 484 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: that people were relieved that he was gone. 485 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Like, that's crazy to me and Laura. 486 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 5: That's exactly what it is. Yeah, mistake about it because 487 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: you're not the only one. You have said it and 488 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 5: put it out for everybody here. You are exactly right. 489 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 6: But when the majority of society believed it was guilty, 490 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: of course, that's going to be the feeling of most 491 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: is Hey, you. 492 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Know what's crazy, TJ. 493 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: Not to step on you, but what's crazy about what 494 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: you continuing to say he was he was, he did 495 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: this and he wasn't found guilty. You know what the 496 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: craziest thing is, I almost feel like if if he 497 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: had committed the crimes and went to jail, people would 498 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: have been like, oh, OJ died this and that. I 499 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: think the fact that he was found innocent, yes, and 500 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: was able at some point to actually walk around as 501 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: a free man and enjoyed life. And it looked like 502 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: he was living it up too, Like you said, productive, 503 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: it looked like he was. He was just golfing and 504 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: talking talking what he's talking his talk with Cameron and Mason, 505 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: Like it just seemed like the fact that he got 506 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: off and you know how big of a star he was. 507 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: It's like some people actually were in some cases bigger 508 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 4: than the law. 509 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: They were above the law. 510 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: And I would say that if there was, you were 511 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: drawing a conclusion just based off of all of the 512 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: given evidence that we were we were because I mean, man, 513 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: I was in grade school when that happened. I can't 514 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: where that was at bro I can remember this joint. Man, 515 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: it divided the entire country nineteen ninety four. I'll never forget. 516 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: It turned into like black versus white, white versus black. 517 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: I was first off, I was like, I'm not in 518 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: no black versus white, white versus black thing over nothing 519 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: somebody else than done. Like this was not no civil 520 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: rights type stuff going on. This was murder Like is 521 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: he innocent or is he guilty? That's all I'm saying. 522 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: I never understood why it turned into a black white thing. 523 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: And you know, being black meant being innocent, being being 524 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: white meant he was guilty. I never understood why the 525 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: narrative aren't so like aggressively and violently into this racial divide. 526 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: It was just a matter of did he do it 527 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: or did he not do it? 528 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: And it was like, I ain't gonna lie to you 529 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: when he was found innocent, and people like, if you 530 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: were black, you were celebrating that he was innocent. If 531 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: you were white, you were just appalled at the fact 532 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: that he was was found innocent. I was like, I 533 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 4: was like walking around nervous. I can remember what I 534 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: was ay bad, Like I was like it was open 535 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: season on me, like I ain't do it. I can 536 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 4: recall feeling like like being nervous to be black because 537 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: OJ Simpson was found innocent. 538 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: Man, it was a lot of things about that that 539 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: I didn't understand the time. I was what fourteen fourteen 540 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 5: or fifteen fifteen, No, it was before then. 541 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: It was before. It was nineteen it was nineteen ninety four. 542 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: Was it ninety four? Yes, I was fifteen nineteen ninety 543 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: I graduated. I thought it was he thought I was. Man, 544 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: you graduated high school. 545 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: Yes, something may maybe that's why it was worse. Maybe 546 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: we wise dang, Yeah we were in high school. I 547 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: was a sophomore in high school. Yeah when it happened. Yeah, 548 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: you just thought you were younger than what you thought 549 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: you were. 550 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: It's so long, hey, bro, that I had I have 551 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: what's that call post traumatic syndrome. 552 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: Thirty years ago, thirty eight. That's crazy man. All right, 553 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: let's get it, let's take a break. I think the 554 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: conclusion is the conclusion. I mean, it's it's hard to 555 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: kind of celebrate the man's life. It's hard to celebrate 556 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: the man's life. But nonetheless, that's crazy man. Whatever snide 557 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: you fall on on O. J. Simpson's passing, he passed 558 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: away at seventy six, once a football like con turn 559 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: an American pariah of sorts of infamous uh former athlete. 560 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 6: Uh. 561 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: And that's I guess that's that's how it ends, uh, 562 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: for for O. J. Simpson and in his life and 563 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: and his his legacy. 564 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports. 565 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back into Up on Game Live from 566 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 4: the tyrack dot com studio. 567 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: It's t J. 568 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: Huschman's out us Plexico Burus. I'm LeVar Arrington. 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I 583 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: find that to be interesting because sometimes a city's personality is, 584 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: what's that? 585 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Do we have sound on it? Oh? Perfect? Perfect? Let 586 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: let's listen to the sound on it. I love to 587 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: get y'all's response on it. 588 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 9: I have this, like I probably need to drop it 589 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 9: pretty soon here because I'm gonna hopefully be in Detroit 590 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 9: for a long time. But I have this thing with 591 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 9: our local media where like they they almost like relish 592 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 9: in negativity at times, and maybe that's what gets clicks 593 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 9: and that's what sells. It's it's it's no longer what 594 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 9: they need to live in. Like, hey, guys, like we 595 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 9: have a good team, We've had success, Like we can 596 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 9: be happy about that, we can celebrate that and not 597 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 9: have to write about how like we're constantly the underdog, 598 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 9: Like no, like teams are gonna be gunning them for 599 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 9: us now, like we won the division and all that, 600 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 9: and I'm probably overthinking in my head just because it's 601 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 9: the chip on my shoulder and the the competitor and me. 602 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 9: But in that moment, I was just giving that guy 603 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 9: a hard time. I actually really like him. 604 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: How you guys feel about that. 605 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm welcome to Michigan, Yeah, and welcome to the Welcome 606 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 5: to the city of Detroit, and a lot of good 607 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 5: things to talk about in Detroit. That's just that's just 608 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: the reality of life up there to three to one 609 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 5: three and on the east, on the east side and 610 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 5: the south side and the west side and everything that 611 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 5: they got going on. Now, over the last couple of years, 612 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 5: this Detroit Lines football team has been winning games, but 613 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: the thirty previous prior seasons they've been absolutely awful. And 614 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: look at what in this state, the state of the 615 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 5: Detroit Pistons right now. They came with a ball game. 616 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: It used to be a hockey town. Back in the 617 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 5: eighties and the early nineties, it was Detroit Pistons. Now 618 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 5: you're talking about the media in Detroit is all they 619 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 5: talk about. 620 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: Isaive. A negative, negative is being negative? 621 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 5: Well, fix it and and and in all actuality and reality, 622 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 5: the only way that you're going to fix it if 623 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 5: you be consistent and continue to win and maybe hoist 624 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 5: a Lombardi one day. But until then, the media, they 625 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 5: are going to be who they are. This is Detroit. 626 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 5: This is not Santa Barbara, it's not Sonny Our's beach. 627 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 5: We're talking about Detroit. So so, Jared Golf, if you 628 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: have a problem with the media, go out and win 629 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 5: some football games and then they will continue, hopefully or 630 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 5: maybe they say good things about you and this football team. 631 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 6: The Detroit Lions have been They've been a bad team 632 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 6: for years now the last couple of years are changing. 633 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 6: That narrative started because a Beat writer asks Jared Goff 634 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 6: prior to their game against the forty nine ers, man, 635 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: are you guys concerned they have all this talent? And 636 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 6: Jared Goff is like, we have talent as well, like 637 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 6: we have quite a few first team All pros, And 638 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 6: that bugged him that here you are asking me about 639 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 6: how great of a team of forty nine ers are 640 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 6: and you're not talking about us, and you're not talking 641 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 6: about our players, and that that bugged them. 642 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: But it's what you just said. 643 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 6: But the Detroit Lions have historically been bad, the last 644 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 6: couple of years they've been good. If they continue to 645 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 6: win the narrative will obviously it will change. 646 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: It will change, but you have to do it. 647 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 6: And be consistent as a winner as a franchise, and 648 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 6: maybe you can do that, then it changes. 649 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: Did But do you know that what. 650 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 5: Jared Goff just did to himself moving forward, he has 651 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 5: he put himself in a position to have no change, 652 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 5: go out and be good or great or stella every 653 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 5: single weekend because what he just said and put out 654 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 5: that to the media that right there is going to 655 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 5: come back to bite him during the season. Jared Golf 656 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: attacked the people, the same people that he's going to 657 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 5: want to support his team exactly, and so the only 658 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 5: way they're gonna support him now is if you do well, 659 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 5: you attack those people. 660 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: You better ball out. I don't know. 661 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to get your take on it perfect, but 662 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: we got to get to the break. Listen, you gotta 663 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 4: be willing to deal with guys who have negative takes. 664 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 4: It is just part of the business, part of the game. 665 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: This is up on game. 666 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: This Fox Sports Radio Hour two is coming at you. 667 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 4: We're gonna start off the next hour with some Tiger 668 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 4: Woods talk. All right, make sure you stay tuned, and 669 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 4: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right 670 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 4: back for hour two.