1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: I probably ended my dad career. When I came along, 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, look you can't be going around. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: You gotta be at the house with me. It wouldn't 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: be too much for for mama. I'll try to stay 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: there as long as I could until they say, hey, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: you want a team, now get in the game. Tell 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: you gotta get about of here. I got killed for that. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: You make the team one week, you go full and 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: go buy you a new car and everything. You're not 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: just a new car Audi. I hate y'all, hate the Raiders. 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Y'all gonna lose the day I'm telling about sending me. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: These are your friends, friends, your friends, welcome into the 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: lounge and Ryan Mink and I'm gutt and we are 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: happy to be joined today by the linebacker Zachary Or. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I want to read the 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: email because we're getting flooded with good emails, so usually 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it for youw podcast, but we gotta get 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: with one. We gotta get some of these. It's hard 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: to pick through a wage through all the good emails 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: and getting these days. But we got a great one 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: from Sweden from Nils Jandler, and he wrote, hey make 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Downing and Ryan Garrett I like that. Well, yeah, I'm 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a big Ravens fan from Sweden. Love the podcast. You 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: guys are great. Pumpkin beer not so much. Oh wo, 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: why are we reading this one? Yeah? This is pumpkin beer. 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, now it's Christmas beer time. So he 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: says this redeems himself. Christmas beer is great. If you 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: find some Swedish ones, I would recommend Nils Oscars or 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Sterix great Beer. Isn't his name Nils? Maybe this is 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: his own company here? Uh. First of all, I hope 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: both of you come to London next year because I'm 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: going to be there, and I hope the podcast is 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: there as well. Am I agree with that? Uh? Secondly, 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: this is a subject for you. How come a block 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: field goal counts as a miss? It should count as 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: a block? Yes, there we go. Yes, why does a 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: guy from Sweden know more about the NFL than you? 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: All Right, we don't have all time to debate this 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: because we got to it to the interview with Zach, 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: but we debated that topic and on on scripture this week, 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: so people can check that out. And also I would 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: just like to add in there we talked to Justin 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: Tucker and Morgan Cox in the locker room this week 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: about it. Both of them were on my side to 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: miss should not be a separate category. Miss is a miss. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: But again, we don't have all day to discuss this. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: We would larstly debate this for about half an hour. Yeah, 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: if we had the time, but we don't have it. 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: We don't we know And just as a shout out 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: emails at the lounge at Ravens the NFL dot net. Uh, 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: but with no further ado to our featured guests to 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: a feature guest linebacker Zachary Or. Last week we had 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: c J. Mosley on the podcast. He's obviously a great linebacker. However, 54 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: now we have the Ravens leading tackler, third most tackles 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, got a hundred and twenty two stops. 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: So my first question off the bat here is how 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: often do you rub it in CJ's face that you 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: have more tackles? Oh? Man, No, not at all, man, 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean shoot, I can't even my resume any even 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: compared to what he's done. I mean came in, we 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: I was fortunate to come in. We came in the 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: same year and he was a Pro Bowl All pro 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: players as a rookie, and I mean he still has 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: more interceptions than me and everything like that. So I 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: mean he could easily just bring that up for my 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: first round draft pick, and he could totally crush me 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: in the football resume. Right now, we'll make sure that 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: goes back to that joke in the locker room. Think 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: nobody's safe. Oh yeah, nobody's safe. It's all that A 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: good lust thing about the locker room and thing about 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: being here with the Ravens man that we all love 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: about it is it's a family environment and um, everybody 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: talks to everybody. We all pretty much hang out and 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: joke around with each other, and you know, everybody just 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: loves to have fun and it makes come to work 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: a lot easier. So, speaking of the hundred twenty two tackles, 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what's it like when you pull up the 78 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: stat sheet. If you do that, I'm sure you probably 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: knew that. You probably knew your third in the like 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: when you see that you see your name there, Oh man, 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: it's it's um something that I always envisioned and dreaming 82 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: about you all the way dating back to high school. 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Everything always was like leading to leading tackle on my team. 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: And then carried out through college and I can't take 85 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: pride and as a linebacker, uh, and just I want 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: to lead a team and tackles no matter what. And 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a testament to just you know, running 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: to the football and just hard work and effort, just 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: having a mindset that you're gonna get to the ball carrier. 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: And the thing about I always say, it doesn't it 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to have a good d lineman that eats 92 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: up because, uh, you know, I don't care how good 93 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: of a linebacker you are out lie in your face, 94 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna make to me tackles. So you know, 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: so that that's the thing I always take pride and 96 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: um when I'm out there, I always want to lead 97 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: the team and tackles is something that I always you know, 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: had with me since high school. So zac I think 99 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: it's cool. Is I'm sure you heard about this on 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Monday Night Gruden was really blowing you off, 101 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: you know about Yeah, yeah, I gotta I gotta write 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: John Gruden the letter man. I mean, all my family 103 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: and friends they sent me like the videos and just 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: like clips and stuff at him just talking about me 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and out that was cool. Man. I appreciate the shout 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: out and everything like that, and you know, put some 107 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: recognition from my school North Texas. That's what I was 108 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: proud about and everything like that, and uh, you know 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: it was it was real cool, man, because I remember 110 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: watching when John Gruten was, you know, coaching for the 111 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Bucks and one Super Bowl with them and all that, 112 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: and um, you know I always watched Monday night football 113 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and everything that he was doing with that, and you know, 114 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: just to be a part of that was with something special, 115 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: something I won't forget. How many texts would you estimate 116 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: that you had when you walk into your locker error 117 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: after the game you check out your front Oh, man, 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I always have a lot. Man, in certain weeks, I 119 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: have more than others. Because the crazy thing is I 120 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: got friends that are like die hearts, like stealers, fans 121 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, like trash talking. Oh that's the worst. 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean trash talking. I mean like literally trash talking. Like, man, look, 123 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: I hate y'all, hate the ravings. Y'all gonna lose the 124 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: day I'm talking about. Sending me these are your friends, friends, 125 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: your friends, I mean, it's all that love. Sending me 126 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: pictures of like Antonio Brown leave. It gets real crazy, 127 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: but I mean I always have a close to like 128 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: probably a Huntred hundred fifty tastes man, and it's it's great, man. 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Just I love it. And um, you know, on the 130 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: off day, I try to get a chance to get 131 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: back to everybody. Sometimes I can't. I just you know, 132 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll be too tired, and it's it's a lot to 133 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: go through. But I mean it's just great to see 134 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: that support, you know, no matter when to lose, no 135 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: matter what type of game I had. You know, I 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: appreciate them taking out their time just you know, you know, 137 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: watch me play and you know, take your time out 138 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to send me a message. And even if it's trash, 139 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: the thing about it with me, I actually love. I 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: actually love those text messures when people are talking trash 141 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: about the team. But obviously when we played the Cowboys, 142 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: it was a lot of trash talking going on. You 143 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: know a lot of my people back home with Cowboys fans, 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: family members as well too. So uh, you know, I 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: actually welcome that because when I always feel like when 146 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you try, when somebody talking trash me, it helps me 147 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: take my game to another level. I like that. So 148 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I love reading those messages. I gotta ask you one 149 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: thing about the you know, the Monday night football feature. 150 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: You know, you never smile on any of your pictures, 151 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: pictures too, on the teams on our website. People know 152 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: you're like the nicest time. It was crazy. I was, 153 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: I was talking, I was out doing some community stuff 154 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: and just meeting with people and everything, and they were like, man, 155 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: I was kind of scared of your picture, and I said, 156 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I know. It was like, you know you you're so cool, 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: and then you got a small you small all the time, 158 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I know, I got to redo that. 159 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: I said, it's it's a it's a crazy. The story 160 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: behind that my picture is because when I saw when 161 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: I got the call and agreed to terms and sign, 162 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: it's undrafted, uh you know, free agent here. My flight 163 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: was like six o'clock that morning. And what people, a 164 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know is I was like three 165 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: hours away from my hometown watching my one of my 166 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: younger brothers in the state track meet when I actually 167 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: found out. So we had to drive back home three 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: hours to track me was at night, so we didn't 169 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: get back to like midnight one o'clock, so I didn't 170 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: go I had no sleep, so I really just I 171 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: didn't know that was the picture that was gonna be 172 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: for the you know, website and everything. Yeah, exactly. So 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I really do look like just I'm meaning, 174 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: I just want to you know, but that's totally opposite 175 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: of me, I said. So I'm gonna have to redo 176 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: those pictures soon. Man, that definitely would not be showing. 177 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I definitely gonna make a point to to get those 178 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: feeling some guys though, you know, they purposely kind. You 179 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: don't look hard, you know. Yeah, that's why that's. Growing up, 180 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I always was doing that and that kind of exactly me. 181 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Mug and everything. I'm like, you know, I always grew up. 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm a football flayre, tough guy, all that stuff. I 183 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: always did that. But my mom always told me, it's small. 184 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. You ain't gotta looked all 185 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: crazy and stuff on your patients. And she told me 186 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: that too about that picture, and so I'm gonna have 187 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: to change it and everything. Now I kind of learned that, 188 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta be really a tough guy 189 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: on the field. You know, the fields, you can be good. 190 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: So if people can look at the picture. I can 191 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: smile and and see that, but on the field, you know, 192 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: that's what it really matters. So that was a guy 193 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: like you end up in North Texas. Man, just uh, 194 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: nobody else really wanted me. That's the crazy thing about. Yeah, 195 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: nobody else really wanted me. And um the coach that 196 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the head coach at the time that recruited me there, 197 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: he was actually college teammates with my with my dad 198 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas, and then he was like 199 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: the most winning his high school coach in the state 200 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: of Texas. He coached the high school called South Lake Caroline. 201 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: They used to win state every year or there was 202 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: in the state championship. So I knew about them, and 203 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: I remember they offered me a scholarship, and uh, you know, 204 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to stay closer to home at other offers 205 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: like Tulsa and Louisiana Tech and stuff like that, but 206 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: you know that really wasn't for me. So I wanted 207 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: to took a visit up there, and um man, I 208 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: just saw a place that you know, wanted to win 209 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: and we're getting like a new state of new facility. 210 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: And when I was actually on my official visit, me 211 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: and the other recruits that were thinking about going there. 212 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: We all kind of felt the same way that we 213 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: were were good players. We were all state players and everything, 214 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: but we all were kind of undersized, like our receivers 215 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: like five nine, five eight, running backs weren't too big 216 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: and weren't the fastest guys. But you know, we were 217 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: good football players and we decided we wanted to go 218 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: here and turn it around. So I met those guys 219 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: and seeing the place in the facility, and I was like, man, 220 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: I could see myself being part of a turnaround. And 221 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: we had three straight losing seasons my first three years, 222 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: but the last year we reached our goal. We turned 223 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: around one nine games and won a bowl game and 224 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: won only third third bowl game is cool history. So man, 225 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it was That's the time. I'll never forgetting the time 226 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that's real special to me. And I mean Green to 227 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: the core. Man. I love it, Man, I love my school. 228 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: What is mean Green? What's mean Green? Man? That's the 229 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: crazy thing about a lot of people. A lot of 230 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: people associated, a lot of people think that it's uh. 231 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing when I found out, Like 232 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: me and Joe Green, the defensive lineman is a North 233 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Texas a lump. A lot of people think that we 234 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: got the nickname from him, but it was actually from 235 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: back when he was on back when he played obviously 236 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: that was really good. You have a guy like him 237 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: on your tream and everything, and their defense was like 238 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: one of the top defenses in the country. So they 239 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: had the nickname mean Green. Our mask I actually is 240 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: an eagle, but it's just the mean Green. I love 241 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: it because it's unique, you know what I mean. It's 242 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: like but it's not anything, right, that's not anything. It's 243 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: just the North Texas mean green. And I guess you know, 244 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: we're just some mean guys that were the color green. 245 00:10:54,440 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: I guess you know. Yeah, your story, that could be story. 246 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell people that. I think I will. I 247 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: think I will tell him that. Yeah there, I could 248 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: lead that that way. I could lead that into you 249 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: know my school called like bragged about my school, man, 250 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: even though you know a lot of people don't know 251 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: about it. I love bragging about my school. You gotta 252 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: wrap the school prod. I like, you got to got 253 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: to So who's who sold you on signing here as 254 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: an undrafted feature because we gotta know who the said 255 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: a thank you, oh man? Lonnie the scout, Lonnie Man. 256 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: He called me and uh, it was like during the 257 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: seventh round of the draft, and he pretty much told me. 258 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: He was like, man, look you can play. He said, 259 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: I know you've been overlooked, but you know you can run, 260 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: you can hit, you know you're smart. And I talked 261 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: to your coaches and everything he did, I can tell 262 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: you that his research, he pretty much knew everything about me. 263 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: And he said, man, if you come in here and 264 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: just do what you did in college and you know, 265 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: keep your mind right, you'll make this team. And I 266 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: remember him telling me that, and that just gave me 267 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: the ultimate confidence. And when I got up here when 268 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: things were getting tough and everything, I just remember that 269 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: and just try to keep you know, getting better each 270 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: and every day. But Yolani was the guy man. I 271 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: actually saw him a couple of weeks ago. Every time 272 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: we see each other, we just give me other, you know, 273 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: big hug and everything like that. And it's great, man, 274 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think you were still overlooked? Like what 275 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: what was it? I don't know, man. That's that's why 276 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I sit and talk about all as what we sit 277 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: and talk about all the time, Like me and my brothers. 278 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm mainly talking to my brothers about it and good 279 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: friends is. I mean, like, if you look at me, 280 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, if you look at my film from college, 281 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good film. And you know, people can 282 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: say the competition, but I played my first ever college 283 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: games against Clemson, I played l s U, I played Alabama, 284 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I played Kansas State a couple of times, I played Georgia, 285 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: And I mean, if you look at me, look at 286 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: the film just from those games, I have a good 287 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: film and I had good numbers and everything like that, 288 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: and I really just don't know why. I feel like 289 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: that's just the way, you know, guy chose it to be. 290 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I could be a testimony to 291 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the kids that you know, get overlooked and get down 292 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: on themselves and everything like that that you can, um, 293 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to be this super freak like athletes 294 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: guy that looks you know, looks like a creative player 295 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: or something out there. You can actually look normal, like 296 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: a normal guy on the street and and go out 297 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: here and you know, you know, make a name for yourself. 298 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool because you have now entered into the 299 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: category of the next great Ravens undrafted linebacker. You know that, 300 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: you know the guys. There's Albert as you remember Clean, 301 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: there's Bart Scott Ellerby. What does it mean to be 302 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: in that kind of fraternity? And when you signed here, 303 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: were you aware of that or did it take a 304 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: little while to learn about that? And um, I wasn't. 305 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware about Like I knew about Bart Scott 306 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: and Danielle um Ellerb and I didn't know. I had 307 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: no idea until I got here that they were free agents. 308 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: But my first day here, Uh, coach wink, that's the 309 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: first thing he told me. He was like, he's first 310 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: told me. Turn around and uh, look at Albert McClellan. 311 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: He was like, well, he's undrafted. As super Bowl ring 312 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: he started, uh some games on our Super Bowl run. 313 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: He's been here for I think at the time it 314 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: was like his fifth for six years. He's been here 315 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: this long. And um, then he started telling me about 316 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Bart Scott and I was like, wow, Bart Scott was 317 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: undrafted and everything. And then he told me about Llerb. 318 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: I was like, man, he was undrafted too. So I 319 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: found out real quick and that that just gave me 320 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: like hoping and everything. And I remember because was like, Man, 321 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: you can be the next one if you you know, 322 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: if you do things right and show that you belong. 323 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: And he's like, there's no reason why you can't. And 324 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: that's something that always you know, remember and everything. And 325 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that now my name is just being 326 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: brought up and um with those guys, man, because it's 327 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: definitely a special group. And those guys, um, you know, 328 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: helped the Ravens win a lot of games and you know, 329 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: help carry on the tradition to Ravens defense. And I'm 330 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: just trying to do the same. So when you go, 331 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people realize this. When 332 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: you're an undrafted guy, in particular as a rookie and 333 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: you sign here in the summer, you aren't making much money. 334 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: You might make a little bit of change is a 335 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: signing bonus, but it's not like they say, oh, you're 336 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You go ahead more than you but 337 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: not as much as you know whatever. But then so 338 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: then you make the team and then you start making 339 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: some real money. Once you make the team, what do 340 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: you think when you get that first game check? What 341 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: are you spending on? Man? When I first got that 342 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: first game check, I was like the great thing. I 343 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: never had a car. I never had a car, like 344 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: even throughout high school, throughout college, and I always remember it, 345 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: and you know, it was cool catching around. I had 346 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: people that they had no problem taking me places and everything. 347 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: But I was like, man, I always you know, you 348 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: get tired of kind of asking people like to take 349 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: you places after their end, like they already was coming 350 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: from somewhere and got something like, man, can you can 351 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: you take me get something eating? I can tell like 352 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: look in the face, like I'll take you. But man, 353 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: you know what I I wish I didn't have to since you, 354 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: my boy, I got you. You know what I'm saying. 355 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: It was like him the other day he tried to 356 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: get me to take me to the car shop. I 357 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: said no. When I asked the baby sitting my kids, 358 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: he said no. He said I would, but I don't 359 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: want to. So yeah, so the first thing, I was like, man, 360 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: I gotta give me some wheels. And I was staying 361 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: at the hotel at the highest place, and they were, 362 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, I using hotel shuttle and I'll try to 363 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: stay there as long as I could until they say, hey, 364 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: you want the team now getting the game? Check you 365 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: gotta get up out of here, and I'm like, dank, 366 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: So I gotta find a way to get around. So 367 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: the first thing I did is, um, you know, go 368 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: go to the down payment for a car, man, and 369 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: that's my baby right there. Now that car. Go always 370 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: have what you get. I got, I gotta already five. Yeah, 371 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: So that's when I pulled up with that. It was funny, 372 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I got. I got like we was talking about jokes. 373 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I got killed for that. Oh you make the team 374 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: one week, you're gonna pull go buy you a new 375 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: car and everything. You're not just a new card. All 376 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: this money back exactly exactly. We no warmer. I ain't 377 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: gotta right to the stateum at all. And now I'm like, 378 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: it was all fun. And I heard that my whole 379 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Ricky year and everything like that. So it was fun. 380 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: It was fun. That's the first thing I got done. 381 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So you know, I know you've talked so 382 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: many times about how you carry this chip on your 383 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: shoulder from being an undrafted guy. Now you're in your 384 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: third year, you're starting on the number one defense in 385 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. You're in the NFL and tackles has that 386 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: chip kind of rounded off a little bit or what Nah, 387 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: it's still it's still it's still up there. Man. Like 388 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: if y'all met my older brother, I mean, he's like 389 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: the ultimate like motivated for like me and my younger brothers. 390 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: He'll never like he always keeps us humble, told never forget, 391 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, never, he'll never let us forget the things 392 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: that people were saying. And you know how many people 393 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: you know said you couldn't do this, say you couldn't 394 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: do that, And it's a constantly reminder and and then 395 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: so he'll tell me that stuff. So even if I'm 396 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good by myself, he'll tell me something like that. 397 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Then I'll just start thinking, I'm like, man, you're right 398 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: then they said no, I'm just automatically start finding myself 399 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: just like man, you know, people really sleep and everything 400 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: like that. And you know, I got to prove each 401 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: and every week that you know, it's not just a 402 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, a one time thing. So, uh, the chip 403 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: definitely not going nowhere, and it's gonna definitely be there, 404 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, forever. Man, your older brothers told you about 405 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: all the mean things that Garrett said about you. I mean, 406 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't know who. I don't know who says. If 407 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know who's saying stuff, he just he just 408 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: starts reading that stuff. Like the other day told me 409 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: some stuff. He was like, man, you you they said 410 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: you gave up seven catches for seventy yards against the 411 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: Patriots by six different receivers. I'm like what, I'm like, 412 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: I know, I got, I got, I got caught on 413 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: the touchdown everything. It was a great play by them. 414 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: But I was like, that's the only time I was talking. 415 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: The rest of the time it was like in his 416 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: own coverage and it was like check down, so they're counting. 417 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: That's like me guarding somebody one on one. But I mean, 418 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: it is what it is. But he telling me stuff 419 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: like that, and I instantly just like get you know 420 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, get fired up again, be like okay, 421 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back out there. But yeah, 422 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: he's the guy. He keeps all of us. He he is. 423 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: You see that, like the messages in the group that 424 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: he seems like me and my brothers. He'll just started 425 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: like screenshot and stuff. Look look at this, what this 426 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: what they're saying and stuff. I'd be like, sometimes you're 427 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: telling him when you're talking to my young brother a 428 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: proach just like you kind of crushing him a little bit, 429 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like you have a dog, 430 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: a little boys man man, a little bros man. But 431 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: he's definitely the motivator of the family. And now we 432 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: know if there's anything that we say or right, you 433 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: know who to blame. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeh. He's 434 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: definitely gonn Let me know, nothing's gonnaing's gonna slide that man, 435 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna slide fast. Was there are points after you know, 436 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: go back to your rookie year. You know, all these 437 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: guys come in here. There's always undrafted rookies, and maybe 438 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: one or two of them makes a team, as you 439 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: Hurst and Tucson. Alright, so three that year, but you 440 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: go through that year and most of the guys don't. Obviously. 441 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Was there at any point during training camp that year 442 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: where you're like, you know what, like I can play 443 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: with these guys. Yeah, I mean probably like a couple 444 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: of weeks in the training camp and we were like 445 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: splitting the practices up and everything like that, and I 446 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: was out there making plays just like everybody else was, 447 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, he's some good players. Because 448 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I first got here, I was like, man, we got 449 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: some real good linebackers here. And I mean, I don't 450 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: know even if I even if I know I played 451 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: how I played, how I can play, it's still gonna 452 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: be tough for me to make a team. But I 453 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: mean when I was in there in camp and was 454 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: able to make plays and you know, started getting comfortable 455 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and were they able to pick up the defense pretty good? 456 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, just watching the film and just 457 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: seeing that I was, I was doing good things, and 458 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the craive thing was seeing how much better I could get. 459 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: And I really didn't know anything like that, and um, 460 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, just sit they're watching film and the coaches. Man, 461 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I could really play at this 462 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: level and everything like that. And I know that the 463 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: type person I am, I'm gonna go home and study 464 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: and I pride myself on not like making the same mistakes, 465 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: you know twice. So I knew if I cleaned up 466 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: the little things and just continue to, you know, come 467 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: here each and every day and you know, do what 468 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I do and you know, make plays, that I could 469 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: play at this level. You talk about the players ahead 470 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: of you. Darryl Smith was ahead of you. Last year. 471 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to you in last season ended, 472 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, and You're like, I think I'm gonna be 473 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: a starter next year and this is before Yeah, yeah, yeah, 474 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: either You're a fortunate tower. What made you so confident 475 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: that you were gonna be able to do it? That 476 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: was just my mindset, because you know, last year I 477 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: was able to get a little I got a little 478 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: bit playing time, especially the second half of the season, 479 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: and um, you know I didn't make any just super 480 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: big plays. I didn't, you know, I did all right 481 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: and everything, Um, and I felt I felt comfortable and 482 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: the game started to slow down a little bit for me, 483 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: and I knew what I had to work on in 484 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: the off season. I knew what I had to get 485 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: better at, and um, you know, I was just confident that, 486 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, the work I was gonna put in and 487 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: the off season was gonna carry over to you know, 488 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: training camera to the season and was gonna help me, 489 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, become the player that I know I can be. 490 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: And the thing I love about it is and the 491 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: thing that keeps me motivate each and every day is 492 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm nowhere even near that yet, Like I know, I 493 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: can get a whole lot better. And that's what I'm 494 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: continue to you know, strive and chase for so but 495 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: that but that office. Going into the off season, I 496 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: was real confident, man. And and I knew Bucks Bucks 497 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: a hell of a player. I mean, he's still a 498 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: hell of a player, man, and I've learned so much 499 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: from him. But I was just confident coming in, like, man, 500 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's it's time for me 501 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: to you know, take that next step and in my career, 502 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: and you know, coming here with their mindset that I'm 503 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a starter no matter what, and just you know, 504 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: not let anybody, you know, hold me back. And nobody 505 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: stopped me. And you know, it was real good to 506 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you know coming here and you know be able to 507 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: do that and everything like that. And I got help 508 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: from you know, a lot of players. You know, Uh, 509 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Elvas Doomerville, he was in our meeting room. Um you know, 510 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: even though he was hurt, he was our meeting room 511 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: throughout camping everything. Just learning a little tips and stuff 512 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: from him, and um, you know I was able to 513 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, put that in my game a little bit 514 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and just taking coaching. That's the main thing too, is 515 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: just correct the mistakes. That you make and you know, 516 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: not make them again, but if you had, I want 517 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: one thing. There's one reason. You know a lot of 518 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: people have asked, what is it about zach or that's 519 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: allowed him to have such a tremendous season. You know, 520 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: you're playing so well. Why are you able to be 521 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: having such a great season like you are? And I'd 522 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: probably say just the you know, the the belief that 523 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: my teammates and everything having me, like the d lineman, 524 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: my fellow linebackers and the dbs and the coaches around here. 525 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: You know, once once they see what I could do, 526 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: they they their belief in me, you know, just gives 527 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: me the upmost confident to go out there and uh, 528 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, play free. And that's the thing I love 529 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: about it. But I think that's the thing that attribute 530 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: probably to the success so far this year is just 531 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: the belief from from my teammates, coach is pretty much 532 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the organization that that you know, they named me a starter, 533 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I want to make them, you know, 534 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: look good, make them, you know, make them right, and 535 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: make that decision the right decision. Best player of the 536 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: year that you've had so far what we just said, 537 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: best play man, I know, right off the season, first 538 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: player of the season. That, Yeah, that kind of set 539 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: that kind of like I like that play because it 540 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of set the tone like Okay, I'm gonna be here, 541 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, man, I'll probably say, 542 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, it was. It was a lot of good plays. 543 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of good plays. But the one 544 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: that I probably enjoyed the most is probably that the 545 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: games sealed interception in Jacksonville, just because it just helped us, 546 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, seal the win. And it was my first 547 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: career in interception, and everybody on the sideline was just 548 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: you know, so happy and everything like that, and I 549 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: was just glad I was able to you know, be 550 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: in the right position at the right time and Webb 551 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: tipped the ball and I was able to catch it, 552 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I just just hearing everybody saying get 553 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: down and get down, and then me slide down and 554 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: everybody jumping on me and everything like that, and you know, 555 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: everybody telling me coming up to me, you know, telling 556 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: me a good job and everything like that. That probably 557 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: was the most memorable and best play. I think we 558 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: had a camera on you after that play on the bench, 559 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: I just this just popped in my head. You came 560 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: off and you were like thanking everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 561 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: yeah man, because it was like, you know, you know 562 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, everybody knew that I was. I was 563 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: in the battle, and you know, people know it's no 564 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: secret I was. I was undrafted. You know, I stacked 565 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: against me and I think I'm playing next to you know, 566 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: c J. Mos like Eric Webb, Davi's web Trell sucks 567 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: here there, you know, Brandon Williams. I got pretty I 568 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: pretty much was like the new guy. You know what 569 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying on the block. You know what I'm saying. 570 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: You got Jimmy Smith. You know Sie's already, uh know, 571 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: He've been starting this league and everything like that. So 572 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of like the new guy 573 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: on the block, and you know, it's one of the 574 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: biggest question he is coming into the to the season, 575 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: was like who's gonna be he was gonna line up 576 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: next to c. J. Mosley, So you know, just you know, 577 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: guys having confidence in me, uh just you know, help 578 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: me have confidence in myself that you know, if they 579 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: if they believe in me, have no reason not to 580 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: believe in myself. So that that's great. Tell us. Something 581 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: that's unique about playing next to Man is what's unique 582 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: about him is he lets you you know, he has 583 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: so much knowledge of the game and he's such a 584 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: good player that, uh, you know, he's he's a teacher 585 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: on the field, you know what I'm saying. He's like 586 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: another he's like having another coach out there. But he 587 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, he lets you, you know, do your own 588 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: thing out there. You know, he lets you, you know, 589 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: be yourself out there, and um, you know, he's just 590 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: as happy as for you make a play when he's 591 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: when he makes a play, and vice versus. But the 592 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: thing that's that's so unique about him is, you know, 593 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: he's he's really he's a he's a quiet guy. You 594 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: don't see him as much as like a rally guy, 595 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: but I mean he's constantly talking about what teams are 596 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: trying to do and everything like that, and believing that 597 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: he gets he gets fired up, man, I mean, c J. 598 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: He's he'll get out, he'll talk, he'll talk a little 599 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: trash out there. And that's the thing that people probably 600 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: don't know about him. But the thing that's that's unique 601 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: about him to me is just that, you know, how 602 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: how how much of a heavy player he is, how 603 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: smart he is out there, and it's really like having 604 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: another Coats on the field. Man. He can um dissect 605 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: on the offense and situations, you know, real fast and 606 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: be able to be able to dissect it and know 607 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do and they be able to go 608 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: out there and make the play. It's great, man. And 609 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: you know, he's definitely, you know, been a key to 610 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: my success because you know, he's drawing a lot of tensions, 611 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: so he's kind of just letting me go. You know 612 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah, y'all go over there 613 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 1: and mess with c J. Y'll leave me alone and 614 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: let me just go here and just do my thing. Man. 615 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's what's unique about him. You know. 616 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: It's it's really cool because now you're playing next to 617 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: c J. We talked about the path that you had 618 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: to get to to get to that point. Do you 619 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: ever stop and think about I can't really can't believe 620 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: three years ago, I'm somebody that's getting a phone call 621 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: from wanting to scout saying WI you should come sign here. 622 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm getting the Gruden Grinder awarded in that game, 623 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: like that rise. Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. It's something. 624 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: It's something that always was like confident that I would 625 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: be able to get to at some point. And all 626 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I ever asked before I even came in to leave 627 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: was an opportunity, And I was always confident that I 628 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: would be able to get to this point. But it actually, 629 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, happened and everything. Man, it's so I'm so 630 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: blessed because a lot of things can happen, man, I mean, 631 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: injuries are part of the game, and you know, a 632 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of different scenarios in this business could happen. And 633 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that you know, I'm here and able 634 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: to you know, be in this moment right now. But 635 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: it's definitely crazy. Uh, that is actually happening. So I 636 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: want to get a little bit into the personal stuff here. Okay, 637 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: we kind of get away from the field a little bit, 638 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: and so I understanding your dad definitely nine years in 639 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: the NFL is a title, right, mostly with the Washington Redskins. 640 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: You were born in Fairfax, for you learned that today, uh, 641 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: and you were born into his second to last season 642 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the league. So I think we now know what ended 643 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: your dad's career, which was you were in your Yeah, yeah, yeah, 644 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They said it said all 645 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: my brothers, I was the most needy baby. I had 646 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: to be attended to the most because I always, you know, 647 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: wanted something. I wanted somebody to hold me a certain 648 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: way and starting position exactly. So yeah, I probably probably 649 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: ended my dad career when I came along. Was like, hey, man, look, 650 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: you can't be going around. You gotta be at the 651 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: house with me. You gonna be too much for for mama. 652 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm being be too much of a handful of heouldn't 653 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: be able to handle me by myself. So yeah, you could. 654 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: You could definitely say that. So what uh actually what 655 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: that did? The screws an injury, right, which I understand. 656 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: He is kind of the reason why he didn't actually 657 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: encourage you guys to play football, and so he kept 658 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl rings himself. Yeah, he didn't watch football. 659 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: He watched golf. And tell me this one isn't true. 660 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Tell me this one isn't true. He never had a 661 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: catch with you, never played catch with my dad to 662 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: this day, never me and my dad. Never throwing the 663 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: football to my dad. He's never thrown the football back 664 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: to me. Now, he we talked football up of times 665 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: and everything like that. But growing up, I mean we 666 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: used to sit there and we was like, you know, 667 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: big kid, like a little kid. We used to watch 668 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Monday night football and they'll walk in. He'll be, I 669 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: don't know why y'all watching this football, and he was like, 670 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to watch the game. He was like, 671 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: you know how much football don't watched in my life? 672 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: He was like, y'all don't really say y'all really don't 673 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: want to do that. And then it was like and 674 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: then once he used to say that, I guess to 675 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: see if we really wanted to you know, and um, 676 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, when we decided that we really wanted to 677 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: get serious about football, that's when he actually talked to 678 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: us about He told us like, look, it's gonna be 679 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: it's if you're gonna do it, You're gonna have to go, 680 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, a hundred percent, or you won't you know, 681 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: you won't be good or you won't make it because 682 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: it's not something that you can cheat your way around. 683 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: You have to respect the process, you have to put 684 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: in the work, and it's gonna be times that you're 685 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be hurting and you're not gonna feel like, 686 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, getting up for like practice or work out 687 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: to whatever the case may be. But you don't have 688 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: to do that. But that's definitely true. Man never played 689 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: the catch with him at all. Yeah, my my older 690 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: brother just had a baby, so maybe he could play 691 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: with his grandchild. Yeah maybe gon Yeah exactly, yeah exactly, 692 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: so you know, maybe he can do that, but he 693 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: definitely didn't. The funny thing is we did one workout 694 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: with him, and did one workout and he was like, man, 695 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's like, what y'all doing y'all in the 696 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: backyard running around and stuff. He was like, y'all think 697 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: y'all working out? We thought he was training and stuff 698 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: like let me said, let me say, we want you 699 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: to train us. So he was like, y'all want me 700 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: to do that. So he took us out there on 701 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: the track and had us running, and I said, never again, 702 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: never again. I'll never come out here with him ever again. 703 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I see now I'm thinking about this. I think he 704 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: was doing this stuff on purpose, Like he really wasn't 705 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: trying to let us play. He was, Yeah, he was 706 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: trying to Yeah exactly, he was trying to test us. 707 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: He was trying to make everything, you know, tough and 708 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: difficult to see, to challenge us. Do you think that he, 709 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, even though he did all that stuff, do 710 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: you think deep down he's like, I'm glad that they're 711 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: football players. Yeah. Actually, do you think he's kind of disappointed. 712 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: I think I think he's happy. Man. He's so proud. Man, 713 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: he's so happy. I mean he's the biggest like once 714 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: once we decide once, uh, you know, we really once 715 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: he found out that he was really serious out playing 716 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: and we started playing, um, you know, through junior in 717 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: high school. And he's the biggest fan. I mean he's 718 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: at the games, screaming his lungs off, and all he 719 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: does is travel. Man, he goes, he goes to you know, 720 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: he went to my game, my brother's game. He just 721 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: every weekend they're they're they're full, they're watching football and everything, 722 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: him and my mom and I mean he's the biggest 723 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: cheerleader of them all. And uh, he loves it, and 724 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: he loves you know, bragging about us and everything like that, 725 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: to h to his friends and everything. You could tell. So, 726 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: how did you become interested in football that if he 727 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: wasn't encouraging it? At all. See, the thing was is, 728 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: you know my mom, he gets real she like real 729 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: decorative and everything like that. And you know, so she's 730 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, had his jerseys and stuff hung up in 731 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: our rooms, and you know he's seen like pictures and stuff. 732 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: So you know, then we found some old tapes. So 733 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: we popped old tapes and we actually seen him some 734 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: old college tapes when he was playing, and everything was like, man, 735 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: he was. She was pretty good, you know what I'm saying, 736 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: and everything like that, because you know, growing up, my 737 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: dad played the league, but she didn't nobody know who 738 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: he was. You know what I'm saying. He was Dion 739 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Sanders or somebody like that. You know, I was like, man, actually, 740 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: you know he was pretty good. You know, he actually 741 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: could play a little bit and everything. So you know, 742 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: just seeing that, I was like, man, everybody wanted to 743 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: be like the dad growing up, and that's same with us. 744 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: So we've seen him playing football, so we try to immulate, 745 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: you know, the things that we saw him doing. Then 746 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: we started, you know, seeing it on TV and just 747 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: want to start playing it. You know. I guess we 748 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: got good genes because we were kind of started out 749 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: when we're young we were pretty good, you know, kind 750 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: of enjoyed, you know, enjoyed playing and just took it 751 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: from there. So you keep saying we and talking about 752 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: your family and your brothers, run us through the whole 753 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: lineage here, the whole family tree, all right. So start 754 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: with mom and dad. And I got an older brother 755 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: who's uh twenty six. His name is Terence right now. 756 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: He's a receiver coach at our old high school and 757 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: everything like that. He played, he played in high school, 758 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: like he played in high school. Then it's me, And 759 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: then I got a younger brother, um, who's at TCU. 760 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: He's uh, he just finished up his junior year as 761 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: a safety. He was it was all conference safety there. 762 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: I'll throw that I throw on that show conference first 763 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: time his career. He's a junior at TCU. Then I 764 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: have a young my youngest brother, the baby brother is 765 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: a sophomore at the University of Wisconsin. He plays linebacker. 766 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: So me and him are the ones that get compared 767 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: compared a lot and everything like that. So he went 768 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: to the big school, yeah Wisconsin, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Man. 769 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is he uh, you know, 770 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: he growing up, he got a little more mature about now. 771 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: But I remember in high school and everything, and you know, 772 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: you joke around there now telling my stats and cousin, 773 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: I did this, what you're gonna do in college because 774 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: like you know, you went to the North Tess, I'm 775 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: going to Wisconsin. I'm gonna do this, So I'm gonna 776 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: do that. I'm like, Okay, that's good and everything. So yeah, 777 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why he Uh, I felt 778 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: like he did that, you know, and I was happy 779 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: for him. He was the one. He's the only one 780 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: out of all of us to go out of state, 781 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: just because he wanted to be different because you know, 782 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: it's him being a baby brother year, little dad and 783 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: all of us playing and everything, so he kind of 784 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: lived living our shadows. So he wanted to go out 785 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and do something different. I think it's I think it's 786 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: been real good for him. Who's the first pick? Rand 787 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: and I love to do drafts. We just do draft 788 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: back worth with each other. So you're putting up the 789 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: or tree. Who's the first thing? You can include your dad, 790 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: all your brothers and your dad. Who's going first off 791 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: the board? Man away stuff work? Now, it will be 792 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: probably the one that TCU nick uh, just because I 793 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: mean he's he's fag's a track guy. He could run. 794 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: He's crazy fast, you know he could. He's super athletic. 795 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: He's the most athletic one out of all of us. 796 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: So I mean he has the most guy given you know, 797 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: talent and everything like that. So he'll probably the first 798 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: one off the board, even though I would like to 799 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: say myself, but I gotta give him. I'll give him 800 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: his credit. It would be him. You're like being the underdog. 801 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: You don't want to be be exact draft exactly exactly this draft. Yeah, 802 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: I'll probably last one off the board like that. That'll 803 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: be perfectly fine with me. So what what would happen 804 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: to me if you all older brothers end up in 805 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean time you spend talking about that. Oh, 806 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: that would be crazy. That would be great. That would 807 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: be something that we always we always talked about that 808 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: on up would be like, man, you know if we 809 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, I had all had a chance to play 810 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL that at one at the same time 811 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: with each other and everything, and that would be great. Man. 812 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Then um, I don't know what my parents would do. 813 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: They'll be running around crazy and everything. That they'll probably 814 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: have to They'll probably be blessed because they probably won't 815 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: have to work anymore and everything like that. Yeah, exactly, 816 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to they ever tired, had a 817 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, spots and stuff hooked up and everything like that. 818 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: But you know that that definitely would be a dream 819 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: come true. And and the thing about it is for 820 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: it to be a possibility to happen because uh, you know, 821 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: they're they're good. They're real good players. And I ain't 822 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: just saying that just because they're my brothers. You know, 823 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: I try to look at it with a you know, 824 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: without being biased and everything like that. But they definitely 825 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: have an opportunity and uh, you know, if they're be 826 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy and you know, keep keep the 827 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: right mindset and keep their head on straight, they'll have 828 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: every opportunity to uh, you know, to be up here 829 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: with me and everything like that. And they'll that would 830 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: be in the next three to five years and I 831 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: play on you know, I plan on being around in 832 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: NFL still, So yeah, exactly exactly, man, I'm already let 833 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: me know if I had a chance to play with 834 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: them on the same team, Oh, illegal be in trouble 835 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: for real. In trouble, man, They'll be in trouble for real. Man. 836 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of young's got the or family backs. 837 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: You gotta get any man. Look, you know you want 838 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: for one know what I'm saying, because it's help you 839 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: builds a resume everything. But yeah, that that would be great. 840 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: That'd be a dream come true for real. It's nice. Well, Zach, 841 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing this. We can keep 842 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: dreaming big that we get more wars around here, but 843 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: pretty happy with this one, alright, So thank you for 844 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you a good appreciate thank you. Thank 845 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: you so is Zach exits. I just want to thank 846 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: you one more time, you know, for the time that 847 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: he gave us today. Very gracious with that. And um, 848 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: he's just one of the nicest guys. He has the 849 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: mean picture, but he's one of the nicest guys. Really. 850 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: I know. I hope that fans kind of gotta taste 851 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: that today. I think you would really like this guy. 852 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's around here for a little and hopefully we 853 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: get some more wars. We also we could have a 854 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: few love pipeline exactly. So thank you so much for listening. 855 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: Once again, email us at the lounge at Ravens dot 856 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Send us your audio questions we really 857 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: like there's audio ones to roll in and leave us 858 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: a rating and review, and we will be back with 859 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: you this time. I think for real, skis right. I'm not. 860 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying not just saying it. After a 861 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: big win, big big win, he'll be Eagles. Talk to 862 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: you all next week