1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Lady Young and boyd earl Moan, you've been waiting morning. 2 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Massa Territory, Ladies and gentlemen. We have a 3 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: very special guest here today, Lumerloney back on the show. 4 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: My friend, how you doing. 5 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Robbie, how are you, buddy? 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh, we're good man. Things are starting to pick up. 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's been a little little chilly, I would say, 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: so far, and not too much going on. We had 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: the big trade yesterday. Grayson Rodriguez heading to the Angels. 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 2: We got another bat we got to deal with there 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Now that lineup's looking pretty good. What are 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: you thinking about the Orioles right now? 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Well, it was surprising, right because you're getting one year award, 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: a rental pretty much for four years, or Grayson Rodriguez. 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: But I remember like last year, towards the end when 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Rogers was throwing the way he did, Bradish was coming back, 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: and you're talking to some people in Baltimore sort of like, wow, 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: you got yeah, Grayson Rodriguez to his team. You know, 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: next year that staff is where it wants and there's 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: always that kind of pushback. Yeah, we'll see about that. Yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how he is. We'll see if he can 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: stay healthy. It always kept coming like, we'll see if 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: this guy can ever stay healthy. But still four years 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I thought they would give it a shot. So they've 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: moved on, obviously regretting the Tyler O'Neal signing didn't work, 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and he's probably moved. They wish they did last offseason. 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that the Tyler O'Neal thing, I 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: wonder if that came into play right, because you know, 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: they signed to be the big bopper in the middle 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: of the order. You did great for us, you know, 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: even though he did miss some time. But I think 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: that's what they were hoping for. And yeah, I think 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: they got that now in Taylor Ward. But we'll see 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: what the Orioles do the rest of the offseason. Here. 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: Before we get into it, I gotta ask you, obviously, 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: lots of Red Sox for you this past year, pretty 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: much every single day, NonStop. Definitely step in the right 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: direction with the Red Sox this past year. But now 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, we've moved on a bit here, you know, 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: we've gotten to digest a little bit. You know, what 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: are your biggest takeaways from the Red Sox from twenty 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: twenty five. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: Well, I think it was a good step forward. You know, 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: it was a very good off season for Craig Breslo. 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think when you look back at it, right, 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you make the Crochet deal, you bring in Chapman, 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you extend them during the year, you bring in Justin 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: Wilson who was good, You trade for Carlos Narvaez, and 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: in the end you bring in Bragman. So you want 50 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: him to build off of that. But it was sort 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, you just set expectations like, if you're 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: a team with Garrett Crochet, should be in the postseason 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: every single year, right, And then we finally got to 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: see Roman Anthony. So it was sort of like we've 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: been waiting for this. This has been going on now 56 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: for three or four years. It kind of started with Meyer, right, 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and then Anthony kind of leaped froug him. So you 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: started to see that. And I think more importantly it's 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: been two years now where Breslo has been in here. 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: Year one was kind of in the mill of an 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: off season. I wanted to implement his pitching development program. Well, 62 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: in year two, we saw it, you know, whether it 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: was at the end of the year, guys like totally 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: in early they probably shouldn't have been here yet, or 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: whether it was you know, Dobbins and all of these 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: guys Fits and everybody else that we saw it. Just 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: it's good. It's exciting because you need good young pitching 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and they obviously have it. 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, going back here, you know twenty twenty one, 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: obviously you had that bit of a run there. But yeah, 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: you know, you look at all these young pitchers you 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: know that came up this past year. It's exciting. You know, 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: you haven't really seen it very much, so you know, 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: seeing all these position players coming up and doing their 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: thing like Roman Marcello, you know, see what happens with 76 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Christian Campbell obviously, but you know, there's a lot of 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: good things this past year, and I'm expecting a big 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: off season from Craig Breslo. Yet again, I still feel like, 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, people out there still got the naysayers out 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: there loose, saying, oh, Craig, he hasn't really done much. Well, No, 81 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: he had a big off season last year, and I 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, I think there's people out 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: there even if he went and traded for Showani for 84 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: crying out loud. I still think people would would doubt Breslo. 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, it's you know, it's funny 86 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: because obviously I listened now the Patriots talk, right, and 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: it's like year one of the rebuild under Mike Vrabel. Well, 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: it's not. You're one of the rebuild of the Patriots. 89 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: It's just a new guy in charge. Right. The rebuilt 90 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: started when Brady left. This has been going for five 91 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: or six years. Yeah, you know, so people sit there 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and say, well, the Red Sox rebuil's been going for 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: five or six years, but they don't give the same 94 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt of saying last year was year 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: two for Craig Breslow. So and I think you liked 96 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: year two. You got to the postseason, you kind of 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: set some guys, you extended some guys. You saw some 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: young pitching. So he had a good offseason. He had 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: a bad tread deadline. There's no question about it. So 100 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: let's see where this thing goes for Craig Breslo. You know, 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna crap all over them. You 102 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: say there were some naysayers out there. I get it. 103 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: There's gonna be it all the time. It's like, you know, 104 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: John Henry won't spend It was like people were born 105 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. They never saw what happened in seventeen 106 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: and eighteen and nineteen. So I always felt this last 107 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: year was twenty sixteen version. Yes, right, you sign a 108 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: guy like David Price, you bring in Keith, you bring 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: in the closer, Kimberrel, and you make the postseason. The 110 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: following year is when you traded for Chris Sale. Well, 111 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: this is where we're at. You know, somebody needs to 112 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: go with Garrett Crochet and then eventually here comes j. D. 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Martinez and now the bat needs to come in as well. 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: So this thing needs to be built. It's on its 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: way and it's a big off season for them. Yeah. 116 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: I think that's a great comparison, and it's happened time 117 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 2: and time again with the Red Sox over the years. 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: Anytime they go into a competitive window and they're in 119 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: a competitive window, that's when John Henry will sign off 120 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: on the check book every single time you go back, 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, when they got Shilling back in oh three, 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: right or going into four time and time again. But 123 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 2: one guy that we got last year mister Alex Bregman. 124 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: He is now a free agent. Once again, you were 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: big on bringing Bregman in. I was big on him. 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: I was very excited about what he brought to the 127 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: table for the Red Sox this past year. Did have 128 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: a down second half was yeah, awful, you know, but 129 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: not what he was doing in the first half. But 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: the quad injury came back early. He was trying to 131 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: be there for the team. No one's really going to 132 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: be right in that situation. But he is posting on Instagram, 133 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: he's training hard, He's out wherever he is Arizona. I 134 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: don't remember exactly, but he's looking ri He's looking like 135 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna be good to go. What are your thoughts 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: on Bregman here? Do you think this he should be 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: a priority here for the Red Sox this offseason or 138 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: do you think they maybe, you know, play the waiting 139 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: game a little bit with him and see what happens. 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he should be a priority, But we 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: do have to keep in mind why it took so 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: long to get him last year in the first place. 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: It felt like the front office was split. Some really 144 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: wanted him, others didn't, you know, Others thought they could 145 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: move on without him. So hopefully those people can sit 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: in the back room while the ones who do like 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: him can deal with this. You know, it's like, this 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: is a guy you want to invest in. It just 149 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: is he's a professional, you know, in my opinion. I 150 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: know we could talk about the injury. He was supposed 151 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: to come back the first week of August. That's what 152 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the timeline was for the injury. He came back before 153 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: the All Star break because this team was in it, 154 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: and this team desperately needed him to be in this 155 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: lineup to be a presence. Well, that hurt his second half. 156 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: He just really never got right. So it's do you 157 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: come back too early and not play well or do 158 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: you come back too late and everybody rip you apart 159 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: for not caring about the team. But I think he 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: loved being here. I think he enjoyed the limelight, you know, 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: like he enjoyed the crowds, the attention. You know, people 162 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: talking about Detroit. Now with Labor Torres accepting the qualifying offer, 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Bregman already turned down a massive deal in Detroit. If 164 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to be there, he would already be there. 165 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: There's unknown now with school, Well, I don't know why 166 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you'd ever want to go there, to be honest with you. 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: So I think he wants to be here. I mean, 168 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for him, but I think 169 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: if he's not here, it's because the Red Sox didn't 170 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: put a competitive offer out there, you know. So I 171 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: think if it gets to that five year area, I 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: think he can come back. And you think you want him. 173 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: Back, yeah, I agree. I like the word that you use, 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: their professional I feel like when he came here, he 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: changed the culture a little bit, right, You just he 176 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: brought the expectations right. He's a winner. He wants to 177 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: go out there and he wants to make the postseason. 178 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: So we'll see what ends up happening. But I agree 179 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: as well, I think there is a market for him. 180 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: I personally think there's not a strong market for him. 181 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I think there's teams out there you could make it 182 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: work and sure, but there's question marks to all the 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: teams like he could maybe land with. I think the 184 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: Red Sox do check off most of the boxes there. 185 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens. But I gotta ask you this. 186 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Rob Bradford, another friendly friend of the show, put out 187 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: there yesterday that the Red Sox might have some interest 188 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: in Boba Schett. Now, what I've always loved about you 189 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: is you're big on the fundamentals. You love just a 190 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: guy that can get the bat on the ball and 191 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: get some good hits. 192 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Right. 193 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: You like your dingers too, but you seem like a 194 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: guy that would love someone like Boba Schett in your lineup. 195 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: You know, what do you make of that rumor? Could 196 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: it just be you know, front offices trying to drive 197 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: up the price a little bit, or do you think 198 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: maybe the Red Socks could have some serious interest in Baschett? 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? I think interest is too publicized 200 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: in the game of baseball because I know everybody talks 201 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: about all they're the interest kings. Well, yes, the Red 202 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Sox should be interested in every top free agent that 203 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: is out there. They should be interested in any possible trade, 204 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: whether it's school Will or all the way down. If 205 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: they're not, they're not. People don't understand that's their job, 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: you know. So you should be interested in Bob Boschett, 207 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, you should be interested in. You don't know 208 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: where that deal is going to go. You don't know 209 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: what he's going to be looking for. You don't know 210 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: what he ends up getting. You should be interested in 211 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: Alex Bradman. You should be interested in both. You should 212 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: play each other one off of each other. To be 213 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: honest with you, Hey, I got this deal out here 214 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: right now. Whoever wants it takes it either or you 215 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. This type of thing, this is 216 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: the way it works in the sports. So I love 217 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: what he brings to you. Offensively, you know, he uses 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the whole field, he makes contact, he gets a ton 219 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: of hits, and he's got pop. So offensively I love it. Defensively, 220 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where he is. I don't know where 221 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be, you know, I don't know if 222 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be's not gonna be short stopped for long. 223 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know the type of player he'll be 224 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: at third or the type of player he'd be at 225 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: second base. But I think offensively he fits a profile 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: that everything everything you're looking for, and he hits well 227 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: at Fenway Park two. But they should be interested in him. 228 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: They should be interested in everybody, and they probably are. 229 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: And unfortunately we're going to hear it like a simple 230 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: phone call to an agent will get into the media. 231 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: That means you're interested you know, sometimes it goes places, 232 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. 233 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens. You know, I do expect 234 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays to be very strong in trying to 235 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: bring him back, but you know, like always, they're going 236 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: to be aggressive for everyone out there too. It's it's 237 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: going to be interesting. And when it comes to the lineup, though, 238 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: I think we can all agree, you know, whether or 239 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: not you want to bring in a guy that can 240 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: give you two hundred hits in a season, you need 241 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more pop in the middle of the order. 242 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: When it came to the numbers of this past year, 243 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: there were fifteenth home runs and twenty fourth in ops 244 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: out of the cleanup spot and twenty ninth in WRC 245 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: plus in the cleanup spot. So they need some power 246 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: in the middle of the order. If you were running 247 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: the front office, if you got to take Breslo's chare 248 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: for a day, who are you gonna go after? You're 249 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: gonna go after Alonso? Are you gonna go after Kyle Schwarber? 250 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: What do you think? I think I'm picking Alonzo over that. 251 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about it before. I love Schwarber, 252 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I love the experience of Kyle Schwarber here, there's no 253 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: versatility whatsoever. I mean, it's already a DH spot. And 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: by the way, the thing is Alonso maybe as well, 255 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, because he doesn't exactly improve your defense by 256 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: him going the first. But there's some sacrifices you need 257 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: to make to get forty to forty five home runs. 258 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: What Kyle Schwarber's done the last four years or so 259 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: in Philly is awesome. It's a beautiful hitters ballpark. He's 260 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: blown up. That's not who he was. So is it 261 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: the ball park? You know? Is he a thirty five 262 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: home run guy or is he gonna be a fifty 263 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: home run guy, you know, at Fenway Park versus that place? 264 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would rather have the right 265 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: handed bat that can play a little bit of first base. 266 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Maybe not great, but can play a little bit. It's 267 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: just a contact too. The strikeouts. Again, if I have 268 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: one guy that's gonna hit me forty five homers and 269 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: if he strikes out a lot, that's fine. But the 270 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Red Sox have a lot of strikeouts. You mentioned how 271 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: they don't have many home runs. It's a bad combination 272 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: to not hit for power and strike out a lot, 273 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Like that's an awful combination. That's who they were. Yet 274 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: they still were a top five offense when it came 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: to runs. A team like the Blue Jays during the 276 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: regular season didn't hit many home runs, they were the 277 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: middle of the pack, but they were the best contact 278 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: team in baseball, and then when they got to the postseason, 279 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: they hit a few homers. So it's it's got to 280 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: be one of the other, you know what I'm saying. 281 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: So if Bregman is back here and they're they're looking 282 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: for a big power bat, I'd still take the position 283 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: flexibility in the right handed bat in Alonzo. 284 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm that way too. And I also feel, and 285 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: we even got a report on this not too long ago, 286 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: that there are some of the front office that could 287 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: prefer Alonzo to shore Brook, kind of like what we're 288 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: here in last year with Brugman, right, Maybe a bit 289 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: of a split there, but I can see the front 290 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: office at least some of them preferring Alonzo because you 291 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 2: wouldn't have to give up a draft pick. I know 292 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: Craig that is something he still values, I mean honestly, 293 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: And you could even look at the fact that all 294 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: these guys coming out of college and high school these days. 295 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're so good, right, So a draft pick, 296 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: those are pretty valuable these days. 297 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: And you know it's not just that either. It's because 298 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: this year, because they went over, it's two draft picks. 299 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: It's a second and a fifth, I believe, right, yes, yes, 300 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: And it's also a million dollars in international signing bonus money, 301 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: which I believe. And people can pooh poo that all 302 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: you want, But I love the story this summer, the 303 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: kid Bisio with Baltimore, how they signed him to an extension. Yes, 304 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees had a deal done with that 305 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: kid when he was whatever, sixteen years old. It was 306 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the off season and they went and signed Garret Cole 307 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and they lost their international money and the forfeit that's signing. 308 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: They gave up on him, and the Orioles ended up 309 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: signing them. So it just just to put a face 310 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: to it, you know, because everybody's like, you know, well, 311 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: what's a compensation pick? You know, Well, a compensation pick 312 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: is Christian Campbell and Roman Anthony. That they were compensation 313 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: picks that you got, you know what I mean. That 314 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Basillo was a guy that the Yankees lost because of 315 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: international signing bonus money. So when everybody always talks about 316 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: like signing a qualified off or guy, it's like, who cares, 317 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: It's just the draft picks just a million bucks. Well, 318 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: just to put a couple of faces to it, maybe 319 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: to make you realize that these there's a reason why 320 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: these teams think about it, and it's another reason why 321 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: it lines was probably a better fit. 322 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm right there too, And I also think 323 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: about you know, from John Henry's point of view, John 324 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: Henry has always wanted to build is a sustainable organization 325 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: that year in and year out can churn out, you know, 326 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: young players, whether or not they come up to the 327 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: big league roster or you make him trade or whatever 328 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: it may be. He wants to keep going. That's what 329 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of ended up affecting the Red Side over the 330 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: last five years before twenty twenty five was you know, 331 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: that farm system kind of lost its way a little bit. 332 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: They had to rebuild it there. So I think Alonso 333 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: definitely brings those benefits. There is another guy out there though, 334 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: under the radar. More so it feels more like shatter 335 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: at this point. Is Katel Marte out with the Diamondbacks? 336 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Hazen out there. He has pretty much said, hey, we're 337 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: always getting calls on our good players, but he keeps 338 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: popping up here as a possible option out there for 339 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: a team looking for a bat, and the Red Socks 340 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: they are trying to improve at second base, both offensively 341 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: and defensively. Ktel Marte is interesting. Hit two eighty three 342 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: this past year, twenty eight homers and eight ninety three ops, 343 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: good defense as well. There have been some question marks 344 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to stuff going on in the clubhouse. 345 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Players have come out to defend him, saying, oh, we're good, 346 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: he's fine, So who knows what's going on there? But 347 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: could you see again, there's so many avenues you could 348 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: go here, But could do you see him maybe being 349 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: an option for the Red Sox? Well? 350 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I love the player. I remember going out in Arizona 351 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: and it was Perdomo and Marte and Carol out in 352 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: the outfield, thinking, wow, these top three right now are 353 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: locked in. Like Perdomo and Marte were probably the best 354 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: middle infield in baseball. You know, offensively, yeah, I mean 355 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: they were just their stuts five years ninety one from Marte, 356 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: people saying, you know, why would they give up on him? 357 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully can get Burns back. Who knows, you know, 358 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: because pitching they want to try to win too. But 359 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: the difference is is that they have their Marcelo Meyer 360 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and Triple A and this kid, Lawler who was drafted 361 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I think a pick or two behind Meyer. He had 362 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: three hundred in Triple A. Now the game, a couple 363 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: of coffee handful of games he didn't do well. But 364 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you have the Diamondbacks, you're going 365 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: to sit there and say, can I use Marte to 366 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: improvement in different areas? Even if we still want to win, 367 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: not for prospects, but for another big leagu or an 368 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: impact guy, where's our weakness because we need to give 369 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Lawler an opportunity. You know, we're going to put him 370 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: at second base, up the middle with Perdomo. Well, all 371 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: they have in the outfield is Carol. Yeah. So everybody 372 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: keeps talking about, you know, rating an outfielder for pitching. 373 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to. That might be the 374 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: area where you could pull it off. You know, they're 375 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: looking for an outfielder, they're trying to clear a second basement. 376 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: You could use the second basement a switch hitter who 377 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: could hit second or third from you against anybody right, 378 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: lefty right. He doesn't matter because he switched. And you 379 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: want to deal an outfielder, dealer for Marte in my opinion, 380 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: deal minor league arms to go get your pitcher. You know, 381 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: I think you could pull off a couple of trades 382 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: and get a number two and can't tell Marte sitting 383 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: there second or third in your lineup. You know. Now 384 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: we're talking because you need two bats enough with this, 385 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: like either or stuff Bregman or Alonzo to here Rosenthal 386 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: talk about you. You can't just have one. 387 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: You need to Yeah, yeah, I agree. Who was that Rosenthal? 388 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: I can't remember who said that the other day, but 389 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: uh yeah, no I saw that to him like or 390 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean no, they got the payroll space. I'm not 391 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: trying to sound greedy, but I'm just talking more realistically. 392 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: I think they can go get two Batsie. 393 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean yes, to think about so just say 394 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: you bring back Bregman and you're like, we're good. Everyone's 395 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: just counting on Roman Anthony, who I think is absolutely 396 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: stud to cover up so much stuff. But if you 397 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: do deal in outfielder, you know you're if it's Jared Duran, 398 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: you are losing a lot offensively. Yea, if it's you know, 399 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: William Robreu, you are losing serious power in that lineup. 400 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: Now you could say, well, well Roman steps in right 401 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna take over. Okay, Well you still lost 402 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: almost thirty home runs and eighty four RBIs you know, 403 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: thirty from Willier and eighty four RBIs from Duran and 404 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: all those extra bass that's gone. I don't know who's 405 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna get those at bats? Is that Yoshida? I don't know, 406 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: but that's gone. So if you lose an outfielder and 407 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: just bring back Bregman in the end, look around. You 408 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: lost a good bat, You're down a good bat. So 409 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: you know it's that's why I say like you better 410 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: come out of here with two good bats, especially if 411 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: you're trading away an heltfielder. 412 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and before we get to the last question here 413 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: that that what you just said kind of reminds me 414 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: of a player I feel like he's been a little 415 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: forgotten about here, and that's Christian Campbell. We got a 416 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: report not too long ago that went on a report, 417 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: but Craigs himself saying that he looked maybe looking more 418 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: like an outfield or at least in the short term. 419 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, what are your thoughts on Christian Campbell here? 420 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: Because you're looking at the Red Sox lineup and obviously 421 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: they need to get better there. They need to add, 422 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: like we said, a couple of bats. But what do 423 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: you see moving forward with Christian Campbell? Like, how do 424 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: you see him working in possibly? 425 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I see him, you know, kind of being 426 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: an outfield depth at Triple A. You know, that's kind 427 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of like where I see him for now. And that's 428 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: not to sit there. 429 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: You know. 430 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: People can talk about the contract and it was premature 431 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't have given it to him. Well they didn't. 432 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: They didn't really have that long of a look, right, 433 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: He's only had one year in the minor leagues. They 434 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: loved what they saw obvious reasons. He has a ton 435 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: of talent. I think he's going to be a good player. 436 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: It's just this is the reason why most guys don't 437 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: spend one season in the minor leagues, especially a hitter, 438 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, and especially a guy that had one year 439 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: in college. Like everything was so quick for Christian Campbell, 440 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: but Pitcher throws a hundred with nasty shit. It doesn't matter, 441 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Like he's going to pitch in the big leagues, all right, 442 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: You like, it doesn't matter if he's getting out a ballers. 443 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: We've seen it. Now, he's savage. Everybody that's coming up, Schlitler, everybody, 444 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: totally early whatever, you got good stuff, you're coming up 445 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: for a hitter. Boy, there are adjustments left and right, 446 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes in a minor leagues you never get challenged enough. 447 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: They never find your holes. Well they found his holes. 448 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: So now it's sort of like, okay, let's take a 449 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: step back. Let's figure out what he is. Defensively. He's 450 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: not a second baseman, you know, he's just not. You know, 451 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: he improved from spring training to the regular season, but 452 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: I just don't think he is. To me, it would 453 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: be let's play outfield. Let's play out let's centerfield, left field, 454 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: wherever it may be. Let's work there maybe once a week, 455 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: play first base, and just sort of be that depth, 456 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: right because especially if you're training away one of these outfielders, 457 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: you have a starting outfield, you don't have any depth. 458 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully he is that down in Triple A, because 459 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: I still think he can hit, and I still think 460 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: the contract we'll see it's early in this thing. I 461 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: mean to feel great about the Bayo contract early, mean 462 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: to feel great about the Saydan Raphaela contract early. So 463 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: let's just give this another year or two before we 464 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: start crushing a contract. 465 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. And he did phenomenal in the 466 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: minor leagues coming up, and he's got a great hut 467 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: on his shoulders. I have no doubt at all that 468 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: he's going to be able to figure it out. But 469 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: what I could see with Campbell, the fact that he 470 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: is a right handed bat. I wonder if he could 471 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: work his way into the lineup in you know, different ways. 472 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: I don't know if they would use him as a 473 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: platoon versus playing him every day down in Triple A. 474 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think there can be an avenue, 475 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: especially if they move either Jaron Duran or Willi or Brave. 476 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: I think we all can agree probably Saydan's not going anywhere, 477 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Chris Catillo. He has thrown him out as a possible candidate. 478 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: More likely probably Duran or Willier if you were to 479 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: kind of I don't know. We never want to talk 480 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 2: about trading good players away. We all love Duran and Willier, 481 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: but I don't know what route. Do you feel like 482 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: the Red Sox are going to go when it comes 483 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: to maybe moving one of those guys if you were 484 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: to go with either. 485 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Or you know, one thing I never really hear about, 486 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: and I get it, you want to use one of 487 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: those guys to improve your club. I just get rid 488 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: of Yoshida. Yeah, what are we doing? You know what 489 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean? Like? Why are we trading away a really 490 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: talented player to keep Yoshida around? You know what I mean, 491 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years. I think he's a 492 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: good hitter. Okay, he just doesn't fit, doesn't fit this team. 493 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Is there a fit out there? You know, I don't 494 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: know what's he worth? Six eight million dollars to a team? 495 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Eat ten? Move them? You know? Why are we bending 496 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: over backwards to trade good players or you know, just 497 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: to free up a spot for what? So to me, 498 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: it's so that I mean, to me, that's the first 499 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: thing I would look for. However, I understand that you know, 500 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to improve your area and you have a 501 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: lot of depth there, and that's a great trade situation 502 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: to trade from depth. I still feel like you throw 503 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: them all out there, you know, And I've said this before, 504 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: like I'm sure, they probably looking a guy like Duran 505 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: that's not making what eight million, that's two years more 506 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: of arbitration, that's a little bit older, and the other 507 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: two so they're probably looking at it saying, Okay, this 508 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: is probably the guy just because in terms of control 509 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: and money that we would rather move. However, you're hoping 510 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: that the other two can put a season together like 511 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: he did in twenty twenty four. Personally, I'd like the 512 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: player that I've already seen it from, thinking that last 513 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: year was a floor year for him. But I still say, okay, 514 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: what are we fishing for? You know, we just mentioned 515 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Marte Or let's say there's a team that wants a 516 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: big league back back for one of their good pitchers. 517 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: What are we fishing for? And who's that arm that 518 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: we want? And what if they don't want Duran? What 519 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: if they want to bray you? Are you going to 520 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: say no? What if they want what if they want Saydan? 521 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Like if they're like, no, we want Saydan, are you 522 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: going to say no to a Hunter Green or whoever 523 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: it may be. I don't think you are. And I 524 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: think you put Duran in center, and I think you're 525 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: a really good baseball team. So I still think it's 526 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: who you're dealing with and who they want more than anything. 527 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: I think that's a very important aspect. It takes two 528 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: to tango, right. We can sit here, we can you know, 529 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: we can play MLB show armchair g oh, trade this 530 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: guy here? 531 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: Well? 532 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: Does that team want him? Do they want There's twenty 533 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: nine other teams trying to compete in whether or not 534 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: you think that they can win a World Series. They're 535 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: trying to figure stuff out, right, So you know, it 536 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: is what it is. I agree with Yoshida. It's it's 537 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: it's funny because I love Yoshida. I agree he's a 538 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: great hitter. I feel like if you put him somewhere, 539 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, Cincinnati, like a nice ballpark like that, 540 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: you know, hitter friendly Paul Park, get a bit more 541 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: pop out of him. Even Miami a team, maybe a 542 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: veteran like that could be great for that lineup. You know, 543 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: I think he could do well elsewhere. Do you if 544 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: you were to put I don't know, let's say, give 545 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: me a percentage, what a percentage do you think the 546 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: Red Sox will still have Duran, William Roman and Seti 547 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six would you say over fifty percent 548 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: or under fifty percent? 549 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd probably still say under. You know, I'd still 550 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: say under because I think there's a lot of interest 551 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: in those guys. Hear rumors about a lot of teams 552 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: really looking for outfielders, A lot of teams are looking 553 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: for outfielders, and we've already in Kansas City. Apparently I 554 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: have no idea some teams that we don't even heard of. 555 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like you have no idea who 556 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: is available because you think about it. That's why I 557 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: always think you're gonna trade for an arm, Like is 558 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: there a bat that we're talking about trading for, Like 559 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: we were just talking about Marte, Like Pascentino's name has 560 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: come up. There's a lot more arms that you could 561 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: trade for, right, But we don't even know there could 562 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: be this bat out there that the team's like, yeah, 563 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: we got a young first basement coming up, you know, 564 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: and give me an outfielder for our first basement. Right, 565 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: well's both deal from you know, depth. So but I 566 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: do think there's a very good chance that they move 567 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: on from them. Like I said, personally, i'd rather see 568 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: them move on from Yoshida and keep good players. 569 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see what ends up happening. And like 570 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: you said, good way to circle back here. You never 571 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: know who's available and you never know who could get traded. 572 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: We just saw it with Grayson Rodriguez and Taylor Boom, 573 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: so go see. But Lou, I want to thank you 574 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: for coming on. Let the viewers at home know they 575 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: we're going and they find you on social media. What 576 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: do you got going on this winter? 577 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'm on x lu Maloney fighting with everybody every 578 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: single night, which I do. 579 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 2: It's my favorite. 580 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, it's sort of like, you know, I 581 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: guess you can take the guy out of sports radio, 582 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: but you can't take it out of him. So I 583 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know whatever that's saying would be because I still 584 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: feel like a knee callers and Texters to kind of 585 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: battle back and forth with. So that's still a lot 586 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: of fun. But getting ready to I'll be out in Orlando. 587 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: Me and Tom Karen have some live coverage for nesson 588 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: during that whole thing, you know, in the morning, three ten, 589 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: the left. We'll do some shows at night. Hopefully there's 590 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: some action out in Orlando early December, so it's you know, 591 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: enter the chat on nesson. I'm always on there every 592 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: single Wednesday morning as well, around eight twenty five, So 593 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: it's fun, you know. I enjoy the off season following 594 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: everything and obviously just kind of relaxing a little bit 595 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: with the family and friends. 596 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the off season because it's it still 597 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: feels very hectic, but you feel like you can breathe 598 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: at the same time a little bit, whereas in season 599 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: it's just it's non stop. You feel like you can't 600 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: get a chance to breathe. So yeah, anyway, Lou, thank 601 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: you so much for coming on my friend. Always appreciate it. 602 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: Everyone at home. If you kind of the way out, 603 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: hit the like button, subscribe if you're new, and we'll 604 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: talk to you next time. 605 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: Good stuff.