1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: We're inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. I'm 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. JJ Stankovitz is along our pleasure right now 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: to meet and chat with the new special Teams coordinator 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: for your Indianapolis Colts. That's Brian Mason, who is a Hoosier. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: You're in Indianapolis, Zionsville native coach Mason. Welcome to the 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: fold and welcome back to town if you will. How's 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: it going. It's going well, really really excited for the opportunity. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Can't wait to My wife and I both can't wait 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: to move back to Indianapolis, be back home and have 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity with the Indianapolis Colts. How surreal is this? 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're coming from the college ranks, Like I said, 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: you're a Zionsville native putting on you know you got 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: that that Colts pull over on right now. How surreal 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: is it to be representing you know, your hometown NFL franchise. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: Extremely surreal? You know, it's certainly a dream opportunity, not 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: one that never that I really ever thought maybe i'd 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. But it's so thankful and blessed to 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: be able to be here. Fortunately, every day I come 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: into the office and have the horseshoe one. It's certainly 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: something that you know, I look at, you know, with 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: great pride and over the last week has been surreal 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: and awesome. So can you can you kind of take 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: us through the process that led you here, the interview 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: with Coach Stike in you know, with Chris Ballard, and 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: how you thought the interview went and how you found 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: out you got the job. Really fortunate, Um, you know, 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to have been able to get connected with Coach Stiken 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard. I did not have any you know, 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: previous relationship, had not ever really met them before, but 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, they had reached out about an opportunity to 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: come in for an interview. Thought to be a really 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: good experience, and thought it was a really good experience. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Was really impressed when I met Shane and Chris in person, 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: to the interview process, through finding out more about them afterwards. Um, 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, really just left thinking, hey, this is a 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: great experience. Really enjoyed the opportunity to be able to interview. 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: When I came into the team room and you know, 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: looked around like, man, this unbelieve I'm in the team 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: room for the Indianapolis Colts and have this opportunity, and 40 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, just wanted to take advantage of it every 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: way I could and was really blessed to then be 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: able to offer the job. So you told a story 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: interpress conference that you were driving to your mother in 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: law seventieth birthday in Columbus, Indiana when you got the call. Yeah, well, 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: what was the rest of that car ridal? Well, for 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: the rest of that car right to actually have a 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: two and a half year old and five month old 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: that were sleeping the back seat, So we weren't exactly 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: screaming celebration yet. We were letting them sleep it out 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: until we got to Columbus. But then, you know, we 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: were really able to celebrate once we got in Columbus 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and talk with family about it before we made a 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: final decision. But it was just an opportunity that was 54 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: too good to pass up and was really excited to 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: the you know, obviously be able to move down here 56 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. Yeah, you've coached at some major college programs, 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: by the way, Brian Mason is with a special teams 58 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: coordinator now for the Indianapolis Colts. You've been at Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Purdue, 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Ohio State. How have all of those experiences at major 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: college football programs helped you grow? And what's your confidence 61 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: level that you can make this jump to the NFL 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and put the work that you've put into this point, 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, for good use for the colts now, Yeah, 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway, you know, being able to 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: work with a lot of other really good coaches. I've 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: been a part of some really other good coach some 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: really talented and good coaching staffs, and being able to 68 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: take away a lot of really good information, learn and 69 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: grow from learning from some other really good experience coaches 70 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: along the way, had a lot of other really good programs, 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: and every single step of the way kind of been 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: able to enhance and adjust and adapt some of my 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: coaching philosophies, coaching techniques, coaching methods, schematic adjustments and things 74 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: we've been able to do from learning from some really 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: good coaching staffs, that really good programs that have kind 76 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: of prepared me along the way. And I know you've 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: only been on the job a handful of days, maybe 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: a handful of weeks here, but for you so far, 79 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: what are some of the subtle differences from the college 80 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: game to the NFL game as it pertains to special 81 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: teams and things that you've already have had to study 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: up on. There's a lot of similarities. Obviously, we're all 83 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: going to be all about, you know, fundamental development, and 84 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: the game of football is the same. Those fundamentals that 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: we're teaching and developing are the same. The biggest difference 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: is the rule structure, schematics of the punt game. You know, 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: that's the biggest area that I've been focusing on over 88 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the last week and studying and learning and adjusting to 89 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the punt scheme of the NFL, and that's the number 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: one adjustment that I think I have to make. Again. 91 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: That's Brian Mason, special teams coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts, 92 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And as you take over this job with the Colts 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: on special teams, you're also working now with Matt Gay, 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: who the Cults signed in free agency, one of the 95 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: best kickers in the NFL over the last three years, 96 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with the Rams. Really really consistent, 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: really really accurate. What's your excitement level to work with 98 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: him and spearhead one of those units in the third 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: phase of the game. We're really excited, you know, obviously 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: being able to get a dependable, proven kicker like Matt 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Gay who's done it at the highest level, performed under 102 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: pressure the last two years, has been over ninety percent 103 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: making field goals, including in a run to the Super Bowl. 104 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're just really excited to be able to 105 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: bring him into our specialist room and our special teams 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: units and be able to lean on him in some 107 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: really big moments. Yes, speaking of those big moments, he's 108 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen on field goals in the playoffs. He's 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: made all fifteen of his postseason pats, and he's twenty 110 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to thirty two in the fourth quarter in his career, 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: never missed a pat in the fourth quarter. Just those 112 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: big moments. How do you see that skill and just 113 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: that that demeanor transferring now here in Indianapolis. Yeah, obviously 114 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: he's been able to already do it at the highest level. 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: It's going to directly transfer. Um. He already knows and 116 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: has been on obviously the roster here with the Colts, 117 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: So he's got really a lot of familiarity with our building, 118 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: with the facility, some of the players that are here, 119 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: obviously Chris Ballard. A lot of that stuff is going 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: to allow him to really make the transition smooth and 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: hit the ground running, and you know, being able to 122 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: do at the highest level for the Rams is certainly 123 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: going to translate over as he comes to the Colts, 124 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: and we're really excited for it as you kind of 125 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: assess the rest of this roster. The ability for him 126 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: to handle kickoffs as well, whether that's him, whether that's 127 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Rigo Sanchez, you have a couple options there. Just how 128 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: important is that that he has that in his belt too. 129 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: It's awesome. You know, his kickoffs have been really really 130 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: good over the last three years. Having that versatility is 131 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: always important. As much versatility as we can have with 132 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: our kickers and punters, the better, so they can be 133 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: able to play off of each other and be able to, 134 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, pick each other up in a lot of 135 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: different situations depending on injuries and all those kinds of things. 136 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Something that stood out to me, Brian, when I was 137 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: looking at what you did at Notre Dame last year's 138 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of starters and like NFL caliber 139 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: players to play for you on special teams. Isaiah Fosky 140 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: in particular, what did you learn at Notre Dame about 141 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: how to get guys to play, not just play on 142 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: special teams, but to play hard on special teams. That 143 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: was really something that I first was able to learn 144 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: and kind of gain when I was at Ohio State. 145 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of really other top programs in college 146 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: football that do the same thing, between Alabama and Georgia 147 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: where they get kind of their best players bought in 148 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: to be able to provide value on special teams. And 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: it's really being able to get guys, hey, here's how 150 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: we're going to impact the game. We're gonna impact fuel position, 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: exposial plays. It's going to help us win games, help 152 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: guys get the buy in to win those games and 153 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: then be able to take it to another level. Here's 154 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: how we're going to develop you as a football player. 155 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: That's going to help take you to your dreams and 156 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: goals through your work and fundamental development in special teams. 157 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: That's going to help them take them as a football 158 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: player to the next level. And there's a lot different 159 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: ways we kind of motivate guys to keep them, you know, 160 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: having fun and engage in all those different ways, but 161 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: really showing them the impact that we can have on 162 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: their fundamental development and the impact we can have on 163 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: a game really goes a long way. Especially then you 164 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: know you get a little momentum, you get a little success, 165 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: guys buy in even more. Yeah, I mean the momentum 166 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: and success. It wasn't a little, it was a lot. 167 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Five straight games of the block punt was at eight 168 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: block punts overall. I read that you change the name 169 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: of the punt return team to the punt block team 170 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to kind of emphasize the importance of affecting punters. Not 171 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: just necessarily we need to create yardage on returns, we 172 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: can create yardage by affecting the punter. How did that 173 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: process go of just getting on that role and getting 174 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: guys to really affect the punter Last year at Notre Dame, Yeah, 175 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: it's really a philosophy that's kind of adapted over time. 176 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Like four years ago, we were looking at kind of 177 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the analytics of the punt return game. We are having 178 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: a lot more success when we are a little bit 179 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: more aggressive at affecting the punter. That had a higher 180 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: probability of the punter shanking, the punter having worse hang time, 181 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: which led us to get more of return yards. So 182 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of over the last four years we've kind of 183 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: become a little bit more aggressive with our mentality on 184 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: pump block. That's not to say, hey, our goal is 185 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: to block every punt. Some of those big explosive opportunities 186 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: are coming. We're looking to finish and make the play, 187 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: but we're really just looking to change fuel position anyway 188 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: we can. Having an aggressive mentality on the pump block 189 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: team or the field goal block team to affect the 190 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: punter or a kicker, which a lot of other people 191 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: maybe aren't as aggressive, can provide us some advantages and 192 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: being able to flip the field and fuel position in 193 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: one of the biggest plays in the game, the punt 194 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: pump block battle, that really affects a lot of fuel position. 195 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: That's Brian Mason, special teams coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts. 196 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: How much do you know about the roster right now? 197 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I know it's it's right around free agency as we're 198 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: sitting here talking now. We haven't had the draft yet. 199 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: But how much do you have to know the strengths 200 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: and the talent base of the roster as you get 201 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: closer to the offseason workout program to know what you 202 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: can do in the clay that you can mold with 203 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the guys on special teams as you get closer to 204 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: the regular season. Absolutely, you know, knowing the roster and 205 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: you know the pieces that you have in the different 206 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: ways you can use them on the depth chart to 207 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: be successful is really key to being successful on special teams. 208 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: So over the last week, you know, I've really been 209 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: doing a deep dive, you know, kind of written up 210 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: reports on every single player that we have had on 211 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: the roster last year, kind of watched different cutups of 212 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: what every single guy did on each different phase. The 213 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: kind of be able to learn what their skill set is, 214 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: what they've done in the past, you know, finding ways 215 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: that we can improve or how to use them moving 216 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: forward in the future. Certainly, by no means do I 217 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: have that mastered in the last week, and they'll continue 218 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: into you know, kind of understand who the guys we 219 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: have and the ways they've been using the past is 220 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: very key. And we were just talking off the air 221 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: here before we started the interview. You and I actually 222 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: played against one another in high school. Your Zionsville guy. 223 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I think we met in the regionals in two thousand 224 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: and three Ron Colley versus Zionsville. You are running back 225 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: on that team, did you have aspirations back then, like 226 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: did you know back then you are a good player. 227 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: You went on to play at Dennison, another Division three school, 228 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: But did you know back then you wanted to get 229 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: into coaching. I don't know that I knew I wanted 230 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: to get into coaching. You know, I knew I really 231 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: wanted to maybe have a career in sports. I really 232 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: loved football. I did really love coaching and had, you know, 233 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: a really big impact on my life was Larry McCarter, 234 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: who was the head coach at Hinesville and kind of 235 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: pushed me into, hey, I'm going to play Division three football. 236 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: I had a lot of injury issues, so I actually 237 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: tore my ACL twice in high school and then twice 238 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: in college, which then led me to becoming a student coach, 239 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: and that kind that experience really pushed me into, hey, 240 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: I love coaching. I'm going to get into this more 241 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: full time. When you're you're kind of going through you're 242 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: grinding as a D line coach at Dennison, you're graduate 243 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: assistant at you know, Kent State, Perdue, Ohio State, you know, 244 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: you're kind of working your way up. I know you 245 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: got asked me press conference, like do you ever have 246 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: envisioned this opportunity in the NFL. But did you just 247 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: feel like you're making progress as a coach, You're growing 248 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: as a coach, And when did it sort of become real, 249 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: like this is my career. This is what I want 250 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: to do the rest of my career. I think I 251 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: knew right away, like, hey, I'm gonna I really want 252 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: to grind this out. This is what I want to 253 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: do the rest of my life. You know what I love, 254 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, being able to work with at the time, 255 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: student athletes. I love being able to work with football 256 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: players that developed them off the field, going out to practice. 257 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, the excitement of that, the different schedule of that, 258 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: and the flow of that. You know, I didn't necessarily 259 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: ever want to have like an office or desk job. 260 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, right away working at Bluffton University, 261 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this is what I want to do 262 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Did I know exactly the 263 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: trajectory or the ladder I was going to climb in 264 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: order to do that? No, but certainly very fortunate along 265 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: the way. You're like the poster child of of rehab 266 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: and adversity. Did you tear your acl all four times 267 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: were you on the football field. Yeah, so I've tore 268 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: me a CEO five times. I don't have so. Yeah, 269 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: four times on the football field, twice in high school, 270 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: twice in college after bluffed. And it's not really on 271 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: my resume because I was there, so shut. But I 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: was at Butler University for a semester with coach Voris 273 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: in the spring of twenty and twelve. And I shouldn't 274 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: have been playing pickup basketball. But you have noon hoops 275 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: in Hinkle Field House while a defensive the coach at 276 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: Butler have been there, So how are you going to say? No? So, Actually, 277 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the fifth time I tore maco was as an assistant 278 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: coach at Butler and hingelefield House. Oh my gosh, but yeah, 279 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: not meant to be. So you had five different surgeries, then, 280 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: I've had five different surgeries, but I did not get 281 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: my ACO repaired the last time. I just said I 282 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: don't need one of ye done with it? Right? Can tell? 283 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: The couldn't tell the difference the way you're celebrating with 284 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: your guys on the sideline at Notre Dame. You're working 285 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: around good Yeah, you know it. Yeah, I've been fortunate. Yeah, 286 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: certainly you know, get passionate on game day, certainly get competitive. 287 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Um sometimes maybe a little bit too much so, but 288 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: it's been fun. Did you have a Reggie Wayne jersey 289 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: in your closet growing up? Oh? I did not have 290 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: a Reggie Wayne jersey in my class. I had Marvin 291 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Harrison jersey and a Peyton Manning jersey. I have to 292 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: apologize to Reggie for here you go. How many how 293 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: many games of the RCA Dome did you get two 294 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: back in the day. I don't know the exact number, 295 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: but I did get to a couple amounts. It was 296 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where they'd have youth 297 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: football games, you know, every now and then in the 298 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: RCA Dome. And I've got some some good pictures playing 299 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: youth football games and the RCA Doome every now and 300 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: then two, which was awesome. Yeah, so no doubt. Well 301 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: coach again, it's fantastic to meet you. Like again, we 302 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: crossed paths. I was at two thousand and eight grad 303 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: at Franklin. You were at Bluffed and same conference. Great 304 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: to meet you, Great to talk to you, and best 305 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: of luck here on your early journey in the NFL. 306 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys.