1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are gonna get you 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: ready for the Ravens Thursday night football against the Miami Dolphins. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: It's the Ravens team that's two and five, just came 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: out of the buye with a big win against the 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, now going up against the two and six 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins team that's also coming off a win. So 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: two teams that have not had the best starts of 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: this season but have are hoping at least that they've 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: turned things and are going in the right direction. Well. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: The biggest story, of course with the Ravens is quarterback 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. He is expected to play in this game, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: has been practicing throughout the week and all signs are 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: pointing to him getting back on the field after missing 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: the last three games three and a half games. Went 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: down against the Chiefs midway through that game. La Maar 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: talked with reporters this week for the first time since 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: suffering that injury back on September twenty eighth, said that 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: he's good to go and excited to be back on 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: the field, and so that is a massive thing for 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: this team. I don't think we can talk enough about 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: what that means for this team especially. I really felt 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: like coming off of a bye week, there was this 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: renewed energy and enthusiasm around the team, and part of 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: it was that a number of guys were coming back healthy. 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: You had players like pat Riccard and Ronnie Stanley and 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Rokwan Smith who were all coming back, and you also 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: had players who were just getting healthier, like Marlon Humphrey 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: and Kyle Hamilton. So you have all that going on, 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: But the big conversation was about Lamar Jackson and when 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: is he going to be able to get back on 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: the field. Obviously it wasn't Sunday against the Bears, but 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley starts play as well, they get the win, 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: and now you add Lamar back into this team. That 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: feels like, all right, we're starting to get rolling here. 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: You stop the bleeding, you gotta win, and now you 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: insert your two time MVP quarterback back into the mix, 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: and who knows where it goes from here. 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson was pretty adaman Owen about the fact that, yeah, sure, 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: it feels like the Ravens can go on a roll. 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: And I think everybody's looking down the schedule and it 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: looks favorable. But Lamar was adamant that it's about Miami. 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to talk about getting on a roll 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: and all the things that we've been talking about for 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: so long. When you try to that's what we do 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: in this business. We project, right, We look ahead. What's 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna happen a month from now? Are the Ravens gonna 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs? All that stuff For Lamar Jackson, And 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't just him saying the right thing. You felt 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: it from him was it's about beating the Miami Dolphins. 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's done a I honestly think he 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: does a really good job of keeping the main thing 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: the main thing. I think he's done that throughout his career. 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons, Like. 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: He's just authentic with that, Like he doesn't give you 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: lip service. He tells you what he thinks. Yeah, And 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: that's his approach. 58 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: And I've always liked that about Lamar, And so I think, yeah, 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: there's this sense among reporters, amongst fans, Okay, this team 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: could get hot and go on a roll and you 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: start looking down the schedule and all that stuff. But yes, 62 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: all of that goes by the way if you aren't 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: able to take care of the games that are in 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: front of you, starting with Thursday at Miami's. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: That's what the team needs to be focused on. And 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I think that they are. I don't think they're worried. 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I really do not believe that this 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: team has just chalked up eleven wins for themselves and 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: think the playoffs start like they know, they've got heavy 70 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: lifting still to do. Sitting at two and five right now. 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Lamar also wasn't interested in looking backwards. There are 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about when the hamstring injury occurred, 73 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: how long was he dealing with it, was there something 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: that was lingering beforehand? 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: And was not interested in all that. 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: He did say this is the first time he's ever 77 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: suffered a hamstring injury in his career, which is pretty crazy, 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: just for as much football as that guy has played. 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: And he also made it clear that he didn't want 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: to rush back. You know, you try to come back 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: too fast, you definitely run a high risk of re 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: injuring it and it could cost him the rest of 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the season, he said, even the career, you know, like 84 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you just don't want to play around with it. So 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I think he was very deliberate in making sure that 86 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: there wasn't a setback from the hamstring injury. 87 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: Because that could have very well doomed the Ravens season. 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's smart. And John Harbill also 89 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: indicated that after the Bears game, when asked basically about 90 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: Lamar's chances of how close was he essentially to playing 91 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: in that game, and part of the factor that went 92 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: into the final decision and him not playing in that 93 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: game coming from the medical team is two games and 94 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: five days playing on this short week, and so the 95 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: ultimately decisions to make to don't play Chicago, get ready 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: for Miami. And when you look at it, it makes 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense because last week was. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: A ramp up period in practice. 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: Then he's able to run the offense and go into 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: this game knowing he's good to go. 101 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: He's the starter. 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Everyone has that feeling at the outset, and then on 103 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: the back end, you have ten days to recover, and 104 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: so I think that it does make a lot rather 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: than rather than trying to cramped two games into five days, 106 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: maybe come back a little bit early and are you 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: going to be able to be yourself? Are you going 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: to be able to recover enough? Like all of those questions. 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: Now you don't have to worry about him, And. 110 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: Well, of course you feel a lot better because you 111 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: got to win, right. Had the Ravens not beating the Bears, 112 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: I think there probably would have been a lot more 113 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: questions of could Lamar have played and how healthy was 114 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have made a big enough difference to win 115 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: the game. It played out perfectly the way it did, 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: and that's a credit to Snoop in larger In large part, 117 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: Lamar talked about the confidence that he had in Snoop 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: and that he was going to be able to go 119 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: out and win a game, and the Ravens felt the 120 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: same way, and sure enough, he did it. And so 121 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: if the Ravens didn't feel that much confidence in Snoop 122 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: or their backup quarterback situation, who knows, maybe they could 123 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: have played it a little bit differently. 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: But they believe Snoop could beat the Bears. He did. 125 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: Now Lamar comes back and everybody's feeling great. 126 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just think that. 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to quantity, like there's two levels. So Lamar's 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: return to me like one is the obvious on field stuff, 129 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: all the things that he opens up in the offense, 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: the how you have to account for him in the 131 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: running game, the ability to hit plays down the field, 132 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: just everything, like all the stuff we could go on 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: and on, the numbers, the accolades, like Lamar Jack's a 134 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: pretty good player. Okay, so we know that he's gonna 135 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: make an impact on the field. But then there's also 136 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: like the emotional side of it, where you know that, Okay, 137 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: Lamar's back, and I think that's real, and I don't 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: know how to quantify it, but I think that there's 139 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: a real feeling like, Okay, this defense is playing better. 140 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: Two straight games with the defense playing well, they've made 141 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: some adjustments, the like we've seen growth from the running 142 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: the called running game over the last two games without 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson on the field. Now you put him back 144 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: on the lineup, and there's just this feeling of that 145 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: is that's massive what can happen from here? And of course, 146 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: like that's all just lip service and discussion point and 147 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: the Raves have to go out there and play well 148 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: and that's not necessarily gonna matter Thursday night. But I 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: think that that that feeling has an impact tangible, what 150 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: kind of impact like, It's hard to say exactly, but 151 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a real impact. 152 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: What Lamar Jackson does not think will have an impact 154 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: on Thursday night is the fact that he's playing back 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: at home in Miami. He pretty much shot down the 156 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: whole Lamar goes home and you know, the triumphant return 157 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: back to South Florida and this is a place where 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens have some history and Lamar Jackson has some history. 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I go back the good history. The one I like 160 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: thinking about it is twenty nineteen Week one, Ravens go 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: down there and that was the pretty good for a 162 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: running back game for Lamar Jackson. Threw five touchdowns, had 163 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating against the Miami Dolphins, and an absolute. 164 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: Blowout down there. 165 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: And that was really kind of Lamar Jackson's I don't know, 166 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: coming out party. 167 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: Is that the right way to put it. 168 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he led the Ravens to the playoffs 169 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: as a rookie in twenty eighteen, but he never had 170 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a game like that. 171 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a coming out party. I mean that 172 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: kicked off the MVP season, came off the fourteen to two. 173 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: It was a statement game. 174 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, with his arm, throwing five touchdown passes, all of that. 175 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: So happy memories then, But it wasn't too long ago 176 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: that the Ravens went back down to Miami on Thursday 177 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Night football also and lost the Miami Dolphins in what 178 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: was arguably one of the toughest games of Lamar Jackson's career. 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: From an offensive perspective, the Dolphins and Brian Flores, their 180 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, just blitz the living daylights out of the 181 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: Ravens and they basically didn't have any answers throughout the 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: whole game, and the offense just grinded to a halt, 183 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: basically in a loss to a Dolphins team. Even back then, 184 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: similar to this year, Dolphins were kind of scuffling a 185 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: little bit to a tag of Bloa came into that 186 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: game from the bench and played very well, but it 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: was just a rough night for the Ravens. Yeah, I mean, honestly, 188 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that feels like forever ago, totally different. 189 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: Certainly. 190 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Flores was the head coach there now 191 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: he's a defensive coordinator. 192 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: In Minnesota right now. 193 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: And the whole cover that basically set off a chain 194 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: of events that like cover zero blitz became the main 195 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: talking point around. 196 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: It became the way to defend the Ravens. 197 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: Right, and then then the Ravens had answers for that, 198 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: and now it's not the big talking point anymore. So 199 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: it is kind of interesting when you look at the 200 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Ravens in Miami. There's been some kind of iconic games 201 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: on both ends of the spectrum. So there's the twenty 202 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: nineteen game, the five touchdown not bad for a running 203 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: back game. Then there's a twenty twenty one Thursday Night 204 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: game with the offense struggles that you just talked about. 205 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Then games here in Baltimore, there's the game where the 206 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: Ravens had the big lead and then the Dolphins come 207 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: roaring back late in that game, Tyreek Hill was, you know, 208 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: getting open in the secondary, and that was that was 209 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: one of the tougher. 210 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Games for the Ravens early season game. 211 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: And then you also have the game on New Year's 212 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: Eve that the Ravens just blew out the Dolphins. And 213 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: that was a game that in that year. The Dolphins 214 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: were one of the best teams in the AFC that 215 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: year and the Ravens just. 216 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Blew the doors off them. 217 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: And and clinched their spot in the playoff in that game, 218 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: the number one seed and all that stuff like that 219 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: was a thrilling game. So like you look at you 220 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: look at the Lamar jackson era starting that game in 221 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and there's been some pretty iconic matchups both 222 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: ways that the Ravens and Dolphins have had, and we're 223 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: hoping for good memories this time around. 224 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: But I think about the ones in Miami because that's yeah, yeah, 225 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: well that's what we're playing. 226 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: But he said, I don't care where the game is. 227 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: It's it's another game that we got to win. I 228 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: don't care. I do not care the location of. 229 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: The game, and I always do think below that there 230 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: is a level of like, yeah, it's a special place 231 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: for Lamar, no doubts about it. 232 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's very locked in on the game. 233 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: It's also a special place for Zay Flowers, who's a 234 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: South Florida guy, and I spoke to him this week 235 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and he said it's his first time playing back in 236 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: South Florida since high school and in college he played 237 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: in Tallahassee and the Panhandle. He played once in Jacksonville 238 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: as a Raven, but being back home in South Florida 239 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: is the first time for him, and that it's a 240 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: special game for him. He's going to have about forty 241 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: family and friends there. I mean he has almost have 242 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: any siblings, So. 243 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, easy my tickets for people. 244 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of requests coming in and so you know, 245 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that'll be a special game for both those 246 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: guys and Zay, certainly more than Lamar was willing to 247 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: admit that. 248 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little more to this one. 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think anytime you go home, there's an 250 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: element of, like I want to put my best, my 251 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: best showing out. 252 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: There, especially under the lights Thursday night football all that stuff. 253 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's I would be hard pressed to believe 254 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: that there's not that thought process that exists, as much 255 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: as you try to like not focus on it. And 256 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: it's not about that, Like I agree with Lamar, it's 257 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: not about that. This isn't his first time being back 258 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: in Florida and it's not the main storyline of this game. 259 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that playing in your hometown in 260 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: a primetime game, coming back from an injury that sidelines 261 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: you for a month, like there's emotion that goes along 262 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: with it, Like there's a human element that goes along 263 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: with that, and so it'll be exciting to see and 264 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure that as I talked about just a little 265 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: bit ago, I think this team is going to be 266 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: really really excited and fired up. And I think that 267 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: the other part of it too, just like on the 268 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: emotional side of things, is like I think that when 269 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: you look at this game, the Dolphins are a team, 270 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: they are in a similar situation. I think it could 271 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: be really impactful in this game if the Rams are 272 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: able to jump out early. I think like if the 273 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Ravens come out of this game, come out into this game, 274 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: jump out early, the offense is moving the ball, I 275 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: just think there can be a snowball effect. 276 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: We talked about a. 277 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: Snowball effect earlier when there were some struggles earlier this season. 278 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: But for the Ravens, like you get Lamar back, if 279 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: you go out there and you're able to jump out 280 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: to an early lead, say the Ravens got fourteen to nothing, 281 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: it it's hard for me to see them not being 282 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: able to carry that out through the rest of the game. 283 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: That's just the way I feel going into this guy. 284 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: I think with Lamar coming back, if this offense starts hot, 285 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: like you're saying, it's going to be really hard to 286 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: slow it down. There's going to be this surge of 287 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: confidence that just goes through the entire team, and it 288 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: feels like a game where they could get rolling, which 289 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: Lamar I didnt want to talk about, but it feels 290 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: like that kind of game for the Ravens. I do 291 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: want to go back and talk about where Lamar's head 292 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: is at and the distraction of going home and all 293 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. He's kind of putting that to the side. 294 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: The other thing he put to the side were the 295 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: games in the Ravens locker room. He confirmed that he 296 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: was the player who decided that the ping pong table, 297 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: the video games, the pinball machine, all that stuff was 298 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: out of the Ravens locker room. There were reports to 299 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: the contrary, but Lamar made it clear that was me 300 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: told the Ravens equipment staff get it out. 301 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just go ahead and play. What he said 302 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: on that Here was his answer when he was asked 303 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: if he was the one that asked to have those 304 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: games taken out of the locker room. 305 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: The game locker room is true. 306 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: Anyone else I told. 307 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: I had equipment. I told him to take all the 308 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: games and ping pong, turning TVs off. If we could 309 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: have took the TVs out, it would have been out too. 310 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: But I appreciate missus Steve for putting that enough for us, 311 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: you know, But yeah, we had to focus. I wouldn't 312 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: say people don't take the job series, don't get me wrong, 313 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: but like I didn't feel like it was the time 314 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: for that. You know, we got a lot of we 315 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: got a lot of work to do. 316 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: Couldn't take back. 317 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: Keep winning, keep winning, keep winning. We're not gonna have 318 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: him rest of the year, so keep winning. Probably have 319 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: them next year summertime, OTAs or something, but right now 320 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: that's not the focus. 321 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you hear it from him, like 322 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: it goes back to the mindset thing where he basically 323 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: it's just like, no, we're not having fun right now, 324 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: like no fun, no fun that we gotta win, Like 325 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: we're not worried about game, Like this is not about 326 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: like just uh, I don't know, relaxing and having a 327 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: good time, Like we got work to do. And that 328 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: was his mindset. Those those the ping pong table and 329 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: all that stuff came out after the game against the Chiefs. 330 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: That's when it all that stuff taken out of the 331 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: locker room and it just became a story recently, but 332 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: that had been out for a while and Lamar, as 333 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: he said, as you just said on podium, that he 334 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: was the one that asked for that stuff. 335 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: To come out. 336 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I like it. I don't know how tangible it is. 337 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: You know that, Okay, the Ravens beat the Bears because 338 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: they got rid of ping pong. You know, I don't 339 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: know about all that, but I think that when it 340 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: comes from Lamar Jackson, your leader, it sends a very 341 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: clear message around the locker room. That's what I like 342 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: about it. 343 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: I like that it came from Lamar quite frankly. 344 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's saying it's time to get down the business, 345 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: and the only business is about getting better and focusing 346 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: on what's what is it going to take to win. 347 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: That's the only business you should be focused on. I 348 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: like that from the Ravens leader. I think that shows 349 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: me another another thing about Lamar Jackson. 350 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, there's been a lot of conversation and questions 351 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: about like Ravens leadership and accountability and stuff like that. 352 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: You have your best player on your team, the best 353 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: player in the NFL who is focused on like every 354 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: aspect of what you're doing and saying now, they're like, 355 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: how what's the tangible impact. I think it's more symbolic 356 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: than anything else, and it sends a message of no, 357 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: it's it's all about business time. Everybody needs to focus, 358 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: everybody needs to lock in. This is not the start 359 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: that we wanted and any distraction to that is not 360 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: going to be tolerated. And like Lamar has said, We've 361 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: talked to him many times. He said it on podium, 362 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: he said it on this podcast, like he recognizes that 363 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: the time is now to win and and he is 364 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: going to do everything possible in order to help the 365 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: Ravens achieve that. And if that means taking the ping 366 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: pong table out of the locker room, then see a 367 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: ping pong table like that's gone. And I think that 368 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: that speaks to his leadership style and it mattered to him, 369 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: and it felt like it was something that was important 370 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: in his mind to get. 371 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: If it matters to Lamar Jackson, it matters to the Ravens. 372 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Exactly, like if he feels like it needs to come 373 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: out and it's out, and like that's that's important. 374 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: And I mean John Harball said that he didn't even 375 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: know that it was out, So this was this was 376 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: totally a player's thing. John Harball was told by the 377 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: equipment staff that it was gone because coach just don't 378 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: spend time in the Ravens locker room. That's the players 379 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: area really for the most part. 380 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: And so I like that. I like that. 381 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Look, they can have the pinball machine back from the 382 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: lounge when when they want it back at the end 383 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: of the season, after we we size them up and 384 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they want the pinball machine, we'll 385 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: take it out of our office. 386 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: Just just ping pong. You get focused in too. 387 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: I know that you're thinking of like that. 388 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: You want to play ping pong, You want the pinball 389 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: destroying But by the way, I. 390 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: Would destroy you. 391 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: You got a lock in more than anybody. I'm taking 392 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that out of the lounge. You're taking that, you're taking imaking. 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: I'm taking a little more Jackson fro just out of Loune. 394 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: You need to focus. I don't know where did that's 395 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: the next mystery, that's the next mission. Where did it 396 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: actually end up? John Harball said he wanted to know. Yes, 397 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: it's just a someone's house. One of the guys took 398 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: it back. 399 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 3: All right, I'll take it all right. Well, let's take 400 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: a break. 401 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to talk about what 402 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: it will take for the Ravens to beat the Miami 403 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: Dolphins on Thursday Night Football. 404 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We are coming to 405 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: you from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention 406 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: our partners with DraftKings Sportsbook. 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And I don't know if fans have seen, 424 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: if you've been to one of the games where the 425 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: parachute jumpers come in, it's pretty incredible to see these 426 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: guys flying over the stadium. We actually have video from 427 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: their perspective go pro video of them flying into the 428 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: stadium and their ability to like navigate with the parachute 429 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: over the city is incredible and I guess like that's 430 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: the training that they have, but every time you see it, 431 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: it's impressive to me. 432 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Every single time. They're more precise jumping from thousands of 433 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: feet in the air and landing in a specific spot 434 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that I am backing into a parking spot with the 435 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: backup camp. And did you notice the high five? The 436 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: guy on the ground was standing at midfield and the 437 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: parachuter came by. He was going fast too, Yeah, this 438 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: was he didn't land and then to zoom by with 439 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: the high five. It was a little bit more impressive 440 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: aspects of the game for me. 441 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: The cool thing. 442 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: About the parachooters is like, as they're coming down, it 443 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: looks like they're going so slow. It's just like they're 444 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: casually floating down to the stadium. And then as they 445 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: get into the stadium, like they reached like right around 446 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: the upper deck and you're like, oh, they're coming in hot. 447 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: And then they have this ability to like navigate around 448 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: and kind of you know, get into like a runway 449 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: setup as they land on the field. 450 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Again, I'm impressed every single time. 451 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: It's really cool to see and it was a lot 452 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: of fun before the game on Sunday. 453 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: We also want to thank our veterans. The salute the 454 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: service game is always a special one. Then the moment 455 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: that the Ravens had in the stadium was also very 456 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: special where different service members stood up and were recognized 457 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: for their service. So thank you to our service members 458 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: out there for the sacrifices that you make. Absolutely so. 459 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: The Ravens are on the road this week, going to 460 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: play the Miami Dolphins on Thursday Night Football. When you 461 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: look at this game, the Dolphins are coming off probably 462 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: their best game of the season. They went down to Atlanta. 463 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: Tua throws four touchdown passes, and they've been a team 464 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: that's come under fire this year, but their offense just 465 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: had a monster game and they have explosive potential. The 466 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: Ravens have seen that in the past. So what is 467 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: it in your mind the Ravens need to do kind 468 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: of big picture wise to be able to win this one. 469 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: To me, it starts with slowing down Jalen Wattle, and 470 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: he is He's put up ninety five or more receiving 471 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: yards in three of his last four games. With the 472 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: season ending injury to Tyreek Hill. Darren Waller, former raven 473 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: tight end, is also now injured and non injured reserve 474 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: Jalen wattles the guy. And I even go back to 475 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: I remember Marlon Humphrey talking about Jalen Wattle and saying 476 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: how he thought he was the hardest wide receiver in 477 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: the NFL to cover. 478 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: Well, step right up, Nate Wiggins, boy. 479 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see Nate Wiggins versus Jayalen Wattle. 480 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: And this is really almost an appetizer for the premiere 481 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: wide receivers that the Ravens are going to see the 482 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: rest away. They've seen a bunch of them already, but 483 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: you talk about guys like DK Metcalf that are going 484 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: to be coming in here. I mean there's a lot 485 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: of well over the next over the next few weeks, 486 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, right, DK Metcalf, Garrett Wilson from the Jets, 487 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: obviously T Higgins, and Jamar Chase from the Bengals. So 488 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: you have a lot of really good wide receivers that 489 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be over. 490 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: The next month or month and a half. 491 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: The Ravens are gonna be seeing And I think that 492 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins is proving that he is a number one 493 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: cornerback in this league. He's gonna get some Pro Bowl 494 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: votes this year. And this matchup that I expect him 495 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: to see a lot of Jallen Waddall. I think it's 496 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. 497 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Nate is in this matchup specifically 498 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: speed verse speed. I mean, is are two Lamborghinis out 499 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: there that can just fly. 500 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: Waddle is a route runner too. I mean he's not 501 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: just like he's not just the speed. He's got that 502 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: speed he definitely does. He definitely does. And so these 503 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: are two fast guys that can run around out there. 504 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: And with Nate Wiggins, something that he did going back 505 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: to the Rams game against Devontae Adams, this was really 506 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: the first time that Ravens had him do it is 507 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: he's traveling a lot in games with the number one 508 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: wide receiver. 509 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: He did it again last week. 510 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: With Romadonsay, and this is a this is a challenge 511 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: and a and a task that he has asked for 512 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: from the coaching staff. He did the same thing when 513 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: he was at Clemson. He went to the coaches and said, 514 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: give me the normal one receiver. I want to cover him. 515 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: I think that fits Nate's personality, like he's a super 516 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: competitive guy who also is super confident. Like he said 517 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: after the game, I'm at the after the game against 518 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Sunday against the Bears, he said in the locker room, 519 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm at the top of my game 520 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: right now, and I can cover any receiver in the NFL. 521 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: H So that's where his mind is. I love Nate 522 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: because his person he's like the chillest guy out there 523 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: and just nothing fazes him. And I thought the Bears 524 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: game was a good example of that because Romandonsay caught 525 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: a few passes. 526 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: On him early in that game. But who had the 527 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: last laugh? 528 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Ye Wigins he had read he was just setting up 529 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: exactly setting them up. Yeah, let you have, let you have, 530 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: let you test me again, I got yeah. 531 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: So uh. 532 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: I just think Nate has a perfect mindset for a corner. 533 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: He's confident, he's got that swagger about him, and also 534 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: he can shake off when you give up some because 535 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: you're going to And you add all that stuff to 536 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: he's immensely talented player just from an athletic physical standpoint. 537 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: And John Harwall talked about his film study and how 538 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: he's really become a student of the game. 539 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: And when John Harball. 540 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Texts video clips to the defensive backs, you know, you 541 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: remember John Harball was a DB's coach, you go back, 542 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of his roots defensively, and so he said 543 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: he the corners in safeties get more texts from him 544 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: than anybody else. And Nate Wiggins is always quick to 545 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: reply yeah and have that dialogue with his head coach. 546 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: And that was one of the questions about Nate when 547 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: he was coming out of the draft, to be honest, 548 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: and part of the reason that he felt was, you know, 549 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: the maturity and things like that and professionalism, and he 550 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: had been suspended at Clemson by Dabo Sweeney and so 551 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: that was a question. And I think he's proven himself 552 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: in that regard in the NFL. 553 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he told us this offseason when we talked to 554 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: him on the lounge that he felt like he really 555 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: matured over the course of his rookie season, and as 556 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: a rookie for the most part, he was kind of 557 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 2: playing on athletic ability and talent, and that's what he 558 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: was leaning on. And so his focus coming into year 559 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: two was film, study, technique, those things that are going 560 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: to take his game to the next level. And we're 561 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: seeing that, and so there's gonna be a lot of 562 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: responsibility on him, not just in this game the rest 563 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: of the way. And I like his ability to hold 564 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: up well and just be a really good player for 565 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: this defense. 566 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing that. 567 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: I think the era is very much pointing up, and 568 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: so I'm excited about what Nate Wigan is going to do. 569 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: The other concern when you're playing in the Miami Dolphins 570 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: is speed, not just jailing waddle, but they have a 571 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of speed. That's how they build their offenses. They 572 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: want to be a track team, and Vana h Chan 573 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: they're running back is the other premier weapon for them. 574 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: He has five hundred and thirty nine rushing yards He's 575 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: averaged in five yards to carry five big. 576 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: Runs already this season. 577 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: Hn can beat you. He's also one of their leading receivers. 578 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: He has the third most receiving yards on the team 579 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: and he's tied for Jaalawade with the most targets fifty each. 580 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: So running back that's tied for the team leading targets, 581 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: premier weapon and gonna be somebody that I don't know 582 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: who the matchup is for him, Brokwon, Kyle all hands 583 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: on deck, all the above. 584 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: He can be a handful. 585 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: One of the things that I like about the Ravens 586 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: defense going up against a really speedy running back like 587 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: that is they have what they've been doing the last 588 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Kyle Hamilton is playing a ton of 589 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage more than Humphreys, really playing a 590 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: lot at the line. 591 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Of scrimmage in the nickel role. 592 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: And so you have two dbs playing in this role 593 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: of like not just cover guys, but they're stopping the 594 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: run equally as much. 595 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And I like their ability. They both can move. 596 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean, eh, Chant he's got serious wheels. But when 597 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: you have Humphrey and Hamilton down there, I think that 598 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: really helps kind of neutralize the speed element of a 599 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: back like a chan yep. And it's gonna be ro 600 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: quwand Smith too, like, no doubt about it. You got 601 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: He's going to be a huge piece of it. And 602 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: Roquan's coming off a great game. He had didn't miss 603 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: a single tackle, twelve tackles against the Bears, highest graded 604 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: player by Pro Football Focus. 605 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: Has a great game. 606 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: He had a great game, and I think that him 607 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: getting healthy is massive for this team. He dealt with 608 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: that hamstring injury, went down also against the Chiefs, that 609 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: missed the next two games. So to have him back 610 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: in the lineup at full strength is is it's a 611 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: difference maker for the defense. 612 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 613 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: You know one guy who I don't want to see 614 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you have a good game against the Ravens. 615 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: Who's that? Zach Sealler. 616 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 617 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: Former Ozzie Newsom's last pick as general manager back in 618 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen seventh round pick. 619 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Very good player has received I think multiple contract extensions 620 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: from them now and the lineup has become one of 621 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: the best defensive linemen in the league. Doesn't have a 622 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: sack yet, Let's keep it that way. Yeah, Yeah, he 623 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: does get some pass rush. He's been a pain and 624 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: our side though, I know, I feel like every time 625 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: he play, Zack Steeler is having himself a game. 626 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like we were talking about Lamar 627 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: going back home and all that stuff. When you're going 628 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: up against your former team, you always want to put 629 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: your best foot forward, and so I'm sure he's always motivated, 630 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, don't I don't want to see him have 631 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: a good game. I want to just see the Ravens' 632 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: ability to move the ball effectively an offense. 633 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Steeler. 634 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: Where I don't think of Steeler is can the Ravens 635 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: get the ground game going with Henry early in this game? 636 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Can they lean on that and establish the run? Steeler 637 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: is a can be a run game stuffer, like it's 638 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: really his strength, and so can they Can the Ravens 639 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: get that ground game established with Lamar and Henry? 640 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: That I think is a question? Yeah, absolutely so It's 641 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting game at hard Rock Stadium. Can't 642 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: wait for that one on Thursday Night football. The benefit 643 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: for the Ravens also is if they can win this game, 644 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: now you have a mini buy on the back of 645 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: another buye they had. The Ravens had full practice participation. 646 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Everybody practiced on Tuesday, which is a really good sign. 647 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: Is the healthiest the Ravens have been a long time. 648 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: And as we said at the top, the most important 649 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: guy is back healthy. So can't wait to Honestly, anytime 650 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: I get to watch Lamar Jackson play. 651 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: It's a day. 652 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: It's a good day, man, Like I just can't wait 653 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: to watch the show. And so expected. You know that 654 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: we've had a few emails of people requesting the Big 655 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Win back. I'm not going to start it right now 656 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: because there's some big games. 657 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: You don't want to jump out too soon on that one, right, 658 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: But I'm just playing. 659 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: The seed right now that there's starting to be an 660 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: upswell of requests. 661 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and you're basically you just are practicing. You're practicing 662 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: in the mirror to see if the Big Win is 663 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: due for a comeback. Wait need all right, Well, keep it, 664 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: keep working on it. You got to perfect it before 665 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: you bring it back, and we'll see if it's ready. 666 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: So as always, you can email us at the lounge 667 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much, 668 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: and we will be back with you after that game 669 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: on Thursday.