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Speaker 2: for NFL Network, and he has been all over arm

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Speaker 2: length at the combine. We measured our arms yesterday. The

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Speaker 2: length of our arms Armageddon will be revealed coming up

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Speaker 2: next hour. The results are sealed and nobody knows what

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Speaker 2: they are. This might be Marvin's comeback. Small hands the

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Speaker 2: smallest hands on the staff, and maybe you can save face.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean as much when you say I've got

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Speaker 2: long arms. Wait wait, not no, not not in here

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Speaker 2: at the combine.

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Speaker 3: But if you you say, hey, I got.

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Speaker 2: Really long arms, and then when you get to the

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Speaker 2: end of them, you'll see my really small hands.

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Speaker 4: They have a really long torso.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah I have that. Man got a long torso?

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Speaker 5: Thank you? All right?

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Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three d P show we.

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Speaker 4: Taking any wagers on arm length? You got any? You

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Speaker 4: got any thoughts?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who might be sneaky? I should

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Speaker 2: have the longest arms, but I'm not. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Would i'd be bothered if I didn't have the longest arm?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Probably probably? You feel like you should have the longest arms?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, Tom?

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Speaker 7: And why would you be bothered by that? Why would

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just a competitor, Todd.

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Speaker 7: But you can control that. You can't work on that. Really.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you could stretch it a little bit, but you

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Speaker 8: can't significantly change, you know, body parts.

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Speaker 2: Well, god, guys end up stretching their hands before they're measured.

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Speaker 2: You can, Yes, yes they have. They have exercises to

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Speaker 2: Uh no one told me, Sorry the party, sorry, Marvin, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the athletic did a thing about it a couple

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Speaker 9: of years ago around the Combine that players were using

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Speaker 9: this little like I guess you'd caught a rack to

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Speaker 9: spread your fingers out ours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go with it where you want, but once before

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Speaker 4: the combine.

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Speaker 3: All right, so we'll go to the combine. Coming up.

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Speaker 2: Also Robert or Or, oh, seven time NBA champ, And

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Speaker 2: you know we were Marvin and I were chopping this

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Speaker 2: up a little bit. Michael Cooper is in the Basketball

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and I think that's an ensemble selection.

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Speaker 2: That he played with the great Showtime Lakers. It was

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Speaker 2: usually matched against Larry Bird. He was a defensive guy,

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Speaker 2: lockdown defender. But he wasn't a starter, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how often he started, but he certainly

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Speaker 2: contributed a lot. And then you start to think, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Robert or was part of Showtime. He's got a great nickname,

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Speaker 2: Big Shot Bob came off the bench, played with the

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Speaker 2: Rockets with their titles. He's got seven titles, Duncan Spurs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he played with these great teams. But maybe

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Speaker 2: because he didn't play with one team like Draymond Green's

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Speaker 2: going to be a Hall of Famer because it's part

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Speaker 2: of the ensemble. You know, Michael Cooper, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what he averaged. I just know when he was on

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Speaker 2: the floor, he made the Lakers better. But he's in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And I'm fine with that. I

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Speaker 2: just I'm curious that you got a guy who won

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Speaker 2: big Shot Bob, and you're not a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Ton, No one will ever say Robbert Orray led

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Speaker 8: you know, his teams to seven NBA titles. But by

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Speaker 8: the same token, no one will ever say, in spite

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Speaker 8: even somewhere in the middle, and he had those big shots,

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Speaker 8: I don't know how it's taking this long for him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm a little bit perplexed sometimes. And

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Speaker 2: I did hear from somebody with the Basketball Hall of

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Speaker 2: Digger Phelps in? And I was told by somebody who

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Speaker 2: lean towards NBA in international play more than it will college.

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Speaker 2: And I'd not heard that before, so there's a college

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Speaker 2: where Christian Layner will be featured, or Digger Phelps will

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Speaker 2: be featured. Now you do have Jim Beheim and Mike Krzyzewski.

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Speaker 2: They're in the Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, mask

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Speaker 2: but that should be something that you're told or we're

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Speaker 2: told that, look, this is really about international play in

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Speaker 2: and then I would stop, you know, campaigning for Laightner

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Speaker 2: and you know, now Digger Phelps. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense to people, but that's what was

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Speaker 2: told to me yesterday and I went, okay, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 10: So right now, it's just Sonny Vakaro's on your list. Sonny,

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Speaker 10: he made a movie about what he.

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Speaker 2: Did, Sony Vacaro with what he did, but that's college basketball.

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Speaker 2: That gets more about college basketball with Sony Vacaro. So

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Speaker 2: maybe it's the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 10: Well no, not necessarily, because remember the movie air about

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Speaker 10: Sonny vacarl was getting Michael Jordan to sign as a

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Speaker 2: Yes, but then Michael has kind of moved towards George

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Speaker 2: Raveling being more important than Sonny the Carrol, which isn't

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Speaker 2: That's not true. I've known Sonny for probably thirty five years,

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Speaker 2: and I've heard all the stories everything that went on.

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Speaker 2: Him and Michael close friends Sonny's wife, Pam, you know, so,

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Speaker 2: do I think Sonny was the one who was instrumental

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: But he was instrumental in getting coaches paid product into

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Speaker 2: the hands of the players and even down into the

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Speaker 2: high school ranks as well. But I hope that Sonny,

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Speaker 2: while he's still alive, gets an opportunity to be in

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Speaker 2: the Basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Paulin going back to Laytner, I'm on the Naysmith

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Speaker 9: Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame website and their criteria says

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Speaker 9: consideration is not limited to the NBA. It includes international,

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Speaker 9: collegiate and Olympic achievements. Latner has a top five college

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Speaker 9: career of all time baired to say, and a nice

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Speaker 9: pro career and a dream teamer. Yeah, it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't get credit for being a dream teamer

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Speaker 2: because they didn't need Christian Latner with the Dream Team,

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Speaker 2: but he was you know, they put him on the team.

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Speaker 2: But I you know, once again, this was told to

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Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame will lean towards international play, which

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Speaker 2: would include the Olympics and also the NBA. And that's

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Speaker 2: not something that Christian Laytner, you know, was was instrumental in.

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Speaker 2: It's tricky when it comes to these Halls of Fame.

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Speaker 2: But if I look at Robert or winning seven titles,

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Speaker 2: this isn't like Steve Kerr winning all of his titles

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Speaker 2: because he wasn't an instrumental player even a great role player.

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Speaker 2: Now he did have moments with the Bulls, but he

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Speaker 2: franchises winning these titles. Robert Or, he contributed. Like what's

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Speaker 2: Michael Cooper's numbers? What are career averages? Let's start with points.

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Speaker 9: Michael Cooper was on the Lakers from seventy eight to

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Speaker 9: ninety his entire career twelve seasons. He started ninety four

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Speaker 9: of eight hundred and seventy three games. He was a

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Speaker 9: pure bench guy, but he was top five for defensive

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Speaker 9: His stats he avers nine points a game, four assists,

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Speaker 4: Couple steals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're going to put Ben Wallace in there,

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Speaker 2: even though Ben started for the Pistons, Rudy Gobert is

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Speaker 2: going to be a Hall of Famer four time defensive

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year. So when it comes to Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, you know what are you focusing on? Is

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Speaker 2: what we're doing with Ben Wallace, Rudy Gobert and Michael Cooper.

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Speaker 2: They played defense really really well. Yes, Pony, Robert Rory

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Speaker 2: had a nice career. In the regular season, he started

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Speaker 2: game for his career and a shoot her. But his postseason,

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Speaker 2: he's got two titles with Houston, three with the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: three to thirty six, and in all of those playoff series,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at all of them, he played significant minutes.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't just along for the ride. And he's got

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Speaker 2: a great nickname, big Shot Bob. I mean, you don't

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Speaker 3: He earned it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like, hey, I took big shots. I

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Speaker 2: missed him. But you know my nickname is big shot Bob.

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Speaker 2: He made big shots. Yes to would anybody.

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Speaker 8: Visiting the Hall of Fame if they saw Robert Orry

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Speaker 8: what what is he doing here?

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine anybody questioning that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they would said anything.

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Speaker 7: Every the other way.

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Speaker 6: It's like about time I was here a few years ago,

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Speaker 6: I didn't see him. Finally they put him in there.

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Speaker 2: Seven titles, seven titles? All right, Seaton poll question from

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Speaker 2: hour one? What's our two?

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Speaker 4: Big shot? That's still I'm man, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Every time we have him on, we do this, we

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Speaker 3: go whyind he in the Hollle thing?

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Speaker 4: It's the best.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what a career. I know, he's gosh.

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Speaker 4: Man, how much of the NFL combine do you watch?

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Speaker 2: Most?

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Speaker 4: Some or none? Right now? None has seventy two percent

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Speaker 4: of the vote. That is shocking. It's kind of hard

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Speaker 4: none to not see some of it, I mean zero.

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Speaker 4: I'm not fixated on it, but I like, I'm curious. Man,

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Speaker 4: you know if you know you're watching uh you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to watch defensive linemen or offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Almost Seaton does seatings. Like, man, I love watching those

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Speaker 2: big guys run you. Oh my gosh, the best. How

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Speaker 4: How well they move him To be that big and

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Speaker 2: But remember that Alabama offensive lineman who ran with his

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Speaker 2: shirt off. Oh yeah, that's not good. Yeah, no names.

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Speaker 2: It looked like a mud slide.

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Speaker 4: I like the confidence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There are people that'll take off their shirt and you're like, man,

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Speaker 2: you're really It's like wearing a speedo. You know, you're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, you got some confidence.

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Speaker 6: Confidence. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't have it personally, but I like it. I

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Speaker 4: like to see it on other people.

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Speaker 2: Well, Todd, there was a time when Todd it was

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Speaker 8: I make sure there's no one else around the pool,

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Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin Well, I take my shirt off because I

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you make sure you stand by that guy.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, I just you know, backstroke and breaststroke and all.

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Speaker 10: That guy has way worse than I do. Buddha in

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Speaker 10: San Francisco, Good morning, Buddha.

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Speaker 11: No nobody happen me meet Friday Boys. Let's go Fritzy.

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 11: Only one show in America can break down clanks from

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Speaker 11: college shops, courts, worse sounds in sports, arm lengths, and

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Speaker 11: just generally trying to explain Fritzy and his dynamic. If

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Speaker 11: I don't know what will.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Buddha, thank you, thank you. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we have a new podcast. It's called the Todcast and

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Speaker 2: it's all about Todd. It's Todd Unplugged. He recorded and

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Speaker 2: I will say, if you're going to listen, make sure

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Speaker 2: I'm rarely shocked with Todd. I include Paulie in on

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Speaker 4: I said to you, is this real?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to play it in about a half

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Speaker 3: But uh, Todd was Todd? Was Todd? You know that?

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Speaker 2: And and once again that's the one question, the overriding

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Speaker 3: It is rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: We are calling it armageddon. We will reveal our arm

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Speaker 4: Seaton, Well, this dude just dropped an absolute hammer like emotionally,

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Speaker 4: says Aaron Crowder just wrote on social media. If Marvin

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Speaker 4: has long arms, his dreams are within reach, he just

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's deep.

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Speaker 3: That is deep.

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Speaker 6: Tired of this?

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Speaker 3: Are you okay? No?

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Speaker 4: No, no no.

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Speaker 6: I thought I was gonna have a good Friday, but

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah covering the Combine for NFL Network and of course,

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Speaker 2: the Move the Sticks podcast. NFL Networks. Live coverage of

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Speaker 2: the Combine continues today through Sunday Armageddon. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: Daniel releasing all this information, short arms and what does

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Speaker 5: Fun?

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Speaker 13: Fun times is what it means, Dan, That's what it means.

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Speaker 13: It means fun times for all because we've graduated from

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Speaker 3: Okay, but where are we going after this?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 13: comes out a lot of the times. Well, spoiler alert,

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Speaker 13: that's college football. That's that's how a lot of these

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Speaker 13: guys are playing the game.

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Speaker 5: You have to be able to cut through that.

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Speaker 13: So the way I do it and is, you know,

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Speaker 13: you take the whole season, you watch the games you're

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Speaker 13: gonna watch. But then I like to go back and

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Speaker 13: look at these situations. Third and seven plus, you're not

446
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Speaker 13: our RPO and a third seven plus and our win.

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Speaker 13: The stateium knows you're throwing the football the red zone

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Speaker 13: where the spaces condemned. Then you got to make more

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Speaker 13: tight throws. I look at endgame situations, and then I

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Speaker 13: look in big stage games, you know, big stage moments,

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Speaker 13: and I'm like, Dan, he ate his every single one

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Speaker 13: of those tests that he didn't throw a pick in

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Speaker 13: the red zone. It's like crazy numbers inside the red zone.

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Speaker 13: You look at him when everybody in the stadium knows

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Speaker 13: they're throwing the ball, and okay, sometimes it can be

456
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Speaker 13: a little back shoulder heavy and he gets criticized for that.

457
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Speaker 13: I'm like, I don't know, I keep throwing it too.

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Speaker 13: They can't cover those receivers on the outside when he

459
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Speaker 13: pinpoints the ball on their back shoulder. But I've seen

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Speaker 13: him fitballs in tight spaces. He's big, he can move.

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Speaker 13: If you need him to get some free arts. He

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Speaker 13: can take him with tie. I like like Tye is

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Speaker 13: someone who I in my opinion, I think a lot

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Speaker 13: of former quarterbacks are going to take to him because

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Speaker 13: he's the son.

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Speaker 5: Of a coach.

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Speaker 13: Everything from a mechanical standpoint is beautiful and flawless, like

468
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Speaker 13: great feet, nice with delivery. He does not have a

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Speaker 13: huge arm. There's times and their offensive line with was

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Speaker 13: not a traditional Alabama offensive line. They didn't have the

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Speaker 13: traditional benefits that you'd have in that program. So there

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Speaker 13: was a lot of bodies around him, and I thought

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Speaker 13: there were times he just got He looked small, the

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Speaker 13: ball was coming out of his hand, he looked like

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Speaker 13: he was thrown out of a well. The ball would

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Speaker 13: kind of take off on him. So I like him.

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Speaker 5: He's my fortieth player.

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Speaker 13: I think he's the second round guy, and I've you know,

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Speaker 13: if somebody wants to take him in the back of

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Speaker 13: the first round to get the extra year, I can

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Speaker 13: get with that. I just I don't see him as

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Speaker 13: the top half of the first round, top fifteen type pick.

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Speaker 13: And the other reason for that is I think every

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Speaker 13: year you're going to have more ty Simpsons coming along.

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Speaker 13: Whereas Fernanda Mendoza. Those guys are a little bit harder

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Speaker 13: to find.

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Speaker 3: So I can do.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst and his podcast Moving the Sticks,

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Speaker 2: Joining Us from the Combine.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love three down running back.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, he's got elite hands, like route running hands,

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Speaker 13: you know, and all the dynamic stuff that comes along

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Speaker 13: with him in the backfield. Me he's my second overall player.

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Speaker 13: He is a very, very talented dude. He's more than

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Speaker 13: just somebody turn around and put in his stomach, like,

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Speaker 13: he can do a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of different things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know, you know, with the success

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Speaker 2: of Jamir Gibbs and Jean Robinson and you know, some

500
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Speaker 2: of these other hybrids there. Of course McCaffrey, I would,

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Speaker 2: you know, fell in love with him watching him play

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Speaker 2: this year. He was the one playmaker that I thought

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Speaker 2: was different than any other player on the football field

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Speaker 2: every single game that he played in. And that's kind

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Speaker 2: of hard to do, but I just felt, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's running it from ninety yards like you're a threat,

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Speaker 2: You're a threat inside your own ten yard line. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, where's the landing spot for him?

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Speaker 13: Well, that's there's two conversations, right, I mean we I

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Speaker 13: agree on his greatness and how special he is, and

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Speaker 13: then he's my second overall player. And then the next

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Speaker 13: question that follows up is okay, well where does he go?

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Speaker 13: And then you start looking at we saw yesterday with

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Speaker 13: some of those guys to Ohio State kids are absolute freaks.

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Speaker 13: So you're looking at guys and you start playing the

516
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Speaker 13: position priority game. You start looking at needs. But when

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Speaker 13: I say, like, where could it start? I mean, I

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Speaker 13: don't think the Jets would do it at too. I

519
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Speaker 13: think they're kind of it feels definitely more like a

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Speaker 13: front player, defensive front player. I would say you could

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Speaker 13: start the conversation at three with Arizona in Tennessee. I mean,

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Speaker 13: that's where the conversation would start. But I still think

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Speaker 13: that probably lends more to big guys to offense and

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Speaker 13: defensive linemen. Probably, you know, at this point time, I

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Speaker 13: would say more so defensive lineman. And then the sweet

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Speaker 13: spot to me is seven eight nine. When you look

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Speaker 13: at Washington, New Orleans, Kansas City, I don't think that's

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Speaker 13: that's a neighborhood He's not going to be able to

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Speaker 13: get out of.

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Speaker 3: You imagine if he goes to Kansas City.

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Speaker 13: You don't know how many times I've got that from

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Speaker 13: people in the league.

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Speaker 5: They're like, we finally got these guys to not make

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. You know, please not put Jeremiah Love there.

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Speaker 2: If I put Mendoza in the twenty twenty four draft,

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Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks go ahead of him?

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Speaker 13: So three for me, So I had Caleb Drake Jaden,

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Speaker 13: and then I would have him in there, and then

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Speaker 13: you get into you know, the new six McCarthy Pennix,

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Speaker 13: so that's where he would be. But those three guys

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Speaker 13: I mean that I had. Those guys were outstanding, and

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Speaker 13: we've already seen that kind of bear itself out.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders draft strategy that okay, you take Mendoza. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if you go back to last year,

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Speaker 2: you're taking gent but you don't have a good offensive line.

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Speaker 2: You got a really good tackle And I just wonder,

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Speaker 2: putting Mendoza in a situation like that, do you trust

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Speaker 2: the Raiders they can fortify that offensive line.

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Speaker 13: So here's what I would do, Dan, And maybe it's

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Speaker 13: just symbolic and it would be kind of funny, but

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Speaker 13: I would want to make my point. If you're in

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Speaker 13: the draft room. If you go inside a draft room,

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Speaker 13: and now it's a lot more digital and they can

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Speaker 13: display it from a digital display. But when I was

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Speaker 13: doing it was cards. You have the cards upon the wall,

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Speaker 13: so you had the whole left side of the huge wall.

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Speaker 13: Left side is all the defensive players. The right side

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Speaker 13: is all the offensive players. So when you come in

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Speaker 13: there for your first meeting and maybe you got all

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Speaker 13: your coaches in there for the first time, after the

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Speaker 13: season it's over, you have the.

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Speaker 5: Whole draft board up there.

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Speaker 13: I would have to race the entire defensive side of

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Speaker 13: the board and I would say, APO, some defensive coaches,

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Speaker 13: but this year we will just be drafting from this

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Speaker 13: side of the board. Uh, to help our to help

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Speaker 13: our young quarterback. So you know, I know, and I

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Speaker 13: think I might even hurt this on your show, like

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Speaker 13: it's a good conversation, but you know, okay, are they

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Speaker 13: equipped right now with where they are to take a quarterback?

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Speaker 13: And what I would say is now, I think it's

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Speaker 13: there's proof of concept, and recently proof of concept. The Bears,

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Speaker 13: I mean they revamped their pretty much their.

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Speaker 5: Whole line in one year.

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Speaker 13: The the you know, like I know it didn't they

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Speaker 13: didn't play as well as they would have liked in

577
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Speaker 13: the Super Bowl, but New England swapped out four starters

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Speaker 13: in one year and advanced all the way to the

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Speaker 13: Super Bowl. I think with free agency, you gotta, you gotta,

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Speaker 13: You're gonna have to overpay because you know you're the

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Speaker 13: Raiders and where you are right now, you're gonna have

582
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Speaker 13: to outbid some folks for the Tyler Linderbaums of the world.

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Speaker 13: But I would go all in on trying to get

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Speaker 13: one or two of those guys in free agency. Colton

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Speaker 13: Miller comes back healthy, that's probably the hardest piece.

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Speaker 5: To find it.

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Speaker 13: You've got a good functional left tackle and then now

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Speaker 13: we go draft some some interior guys or a right

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Speaker 13: tack tackle as well. Throughout the draft. I think they

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Speaker 13: can make it comfortable enough that Mendoza can survive.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want another Andrew lux situation. Yeah, a

592
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Speaker 2: Datu Bore situation.

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Speaker 13: I I one hundred percent agree with you there. But

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Speaker 13: that's where the That's why you know, I apologize to

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Speaker 13: my coaches, and I've said this for the last few

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Speaker 13: years on anybody that takes a quarterback high. You have

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Speaker 13: to look look to the future and just put yourself

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Speaker 13: there and say, okay, at the end of this year,

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Speaker 13: not all seven and ten records are the same. If

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Speaker 13: we're seven and ten and my quarterback's playing well and

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Speaker 13: we're losing thirty one to twenty eight, man, like you,

602
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Speaker 13: your owner, your fan base is gonna feel a lot

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Speaker 13: better about that seven and ten team. Then you thumping

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Speaker 13: your chest and saying, we got a top five defense.

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Speaker 13: Don't know if this quarterback's any good and he missed

606
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Speaker 13: four games, you got the crap kicked out of him,

607
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Speaker 13: but we got a great defense. Like that's Those two

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Speaker 13: records are the same, but they are not the same

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Speaker 13: in terms of the hope in the in the direction

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Speaker 13: of the team.

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Speaker 2: Who is the quarterback you loved but he didn't plan

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Speaker 2: a pan out?

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Speaker 13: Oh gosh, that's I mean, I'm sure there's a long list.

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Speaker 13: I will say I didn't go into the school when

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Speaker 13: JaMarcus Russell was coming out. I went and saw him

616
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Speaker 13: play live, and I watched his tape and when I

617
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Speaker 13: was a young, young skuy at that point in time,

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Speaker 13: that was the probably the most talented guy that I

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Speaker 13: ever saw. And it was like, Okay, I don't know

620
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Speaker 13: all the other stuff. The guys going to school get

621
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Speaker 13: all the character and the work ethic all that, but

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Speaker 13: I'd never seen the guy throw football like that. And

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Speaker 13: I was like this, I don't know how this doesn't work.

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Speaker 13: That guy's that's insane with the ability that he had.

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Speaker 5: And obviously we know that worked out.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't it work out?

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Speaker 13: I think it was probably more the other stuff, you know,

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Speaker 13: just in terms of the focus. He got heavy, you know,

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Speaker 13: the work ethic. I think those were more issues. I'm

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Speaker 13: telling you this day, Dan, it looked like he was

631
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Speaker 13: throwing a nerf turbo. Like when you went out there

632
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Speaker 13: and watched him, it looked like he had that little

633
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Speaker 13: little tiny nerf turbo that whistled, that whistled when you

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Speaker 13: threw it.

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Speaker 3: Would you take a chance on Kyler or Tua?

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Speaker 5: I would?

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Speaker 13: I think I would. I would do Kyler on that one.

638
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Speaker 13: I think he's more talented, more talented guy and so

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Speaker 13: and I've seen him, like I've look. Two has had

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Speaker 13: some good moments, for sure, and he's played well, and

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Speaker 13: I think that was I think it's just very specific

642
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 13: the environment for two to be successful. I think Kyler

643
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Speaker 13: could be a little more successful in some different circumstances.

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 2: The problem I have is he's more talented, but they're

646
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Speaker 2: both kind of at the same place in their careers

647
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Speaker 2: where you know that if I'm going to take a

648
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Speaker 2: chance on him, he does have this talent, but he

649
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Speaker 2: didn't really showcase it the way he should have. What

650
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Speaker 2: why am I going to be led to believe that

651
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Speaker 2: he's going to now now he's going to be Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 13: Well, and the other side of that, though, is you

653
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Speaker 13: get two and all the head injuries.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't want either one of them. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: I just and if I had to choose between.

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Speaker 13: Yes, two, yeah, I mean I kind of factoring all

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Speaker 13: of that stuff in together. But I'm just saying, at

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Speaker 13: least at least with Kyler, I mean, where you know,

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Speaker 13: maybe we don't have a perfect offensive line, Like he

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Speaker 13: can try and run around and get me out of

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Speaker 13: some stuff with that, and he's given me. He just

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Speaker 13: gives me more opportunities. Whereas two, I think you got

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Speaker 13: to have a very firm offense line, you got to

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Speaker 13: have a track team on the outside, and you have

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Speaker 13: you know, an RPO quick passing game system very tailored

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Speaker 13: to him.

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Speaker 3: You can have Mac Jones or Malik Willis.

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Speaker 5: I think i'd want to test out Malik Willis.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel like I know I know where Mack is,

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Speaker 13: which is can be a good thing and a bad thing. Malik,

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Speaker 13: I don't have certainty there, but I'd be excited to

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Speaker 13: just see, just to see what we can do.

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Speaker 3: I like him.

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Speaker 2: I just think he's going to get that three year,

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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar contract. And I would be excited

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Speaker 2: if if my team got Malik Willis, even if it's

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins or you know, I don't know if Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: But I don't mean what what do you hear at

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Speaker 2: the combine on destinations for some of these guys.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, it's just you're walking in the

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Speaker 13: halls and people are talking, and I don't know how

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Speaker 13: much you read into this historically over the years, how

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Speaker 13: much of it's accurate. But just a couple of things

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Speaker 13: that you hear was okay that you know Malik Willis

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Speaker 13: was Arizona. You know you heard that kicked around as

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Speaker 13: that he could you know, that could makes sense with Arizona.

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Speaker 13: The one that I heard was interesting was Gino going

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Speaker 13: to Minnesota was one that people were talking about to

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Speaker 13: give him the veteran with with McCarthy to see where

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Speaker 13: that goes. And then it just seemed to be like

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Speaker 13: there would be a good market for Kirk Cousins was

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Speaker 13: the other buzz that you hear, but not tied Denni's

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Speaker 13: not not tied to any specific team, but you know

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Speaker 13: that was that was interesting.

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Speaker 2: But he's better than Michael Pennix. But they moved on

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Speaker 2: from Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean it sounds like that's done. I

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Speaker 13: mean that's yeah, you know, he's he's moving on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like two weeks. I think he's He's gone and

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Speaker 2: made one hundred million.

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Speaker 3: In two years.

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Speaker 5: That's good work if you get it.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. And he's going to get another contract here.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and when he's done with that, he's going to

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Speaker 13: go right into TV and TV.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again, Daniel, Thanks buddy. That's Daniel. Jeremiah is

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Speaker 2: a podcasts Moving the Sticks. He's the Chargers radio color commentator,

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Speaker 2: former NFL scout and working for NFL Net. We'll take

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Speaker 2: a break when we come back. I thought I knew

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Speaker 2: everything about Todd Fritz. Prepare yourself. We have a portion

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Speaker 2: of the todcast podcast on Danpatrick dot com. You won't

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Speaker 2: look at Todd or listen to Todd the way you used

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: After this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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Speaker 1: FSR to listen live update The pull results more phone calls.

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Speaker 2: In fact, let's get Andrew from Washington and Andrew, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Good morning Dan, daneps, thanks for having me on, and

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Speaker 14: Happy meet Friday. I got a couple of comments and

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Speaker 14: then a stat of the day trivia style. So my

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Speaker 14: first comment is I can see where Todd doesn't understand

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Speaker 14: how check comes from Chester. But he also is the

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Speaker 14: guy that rhymes walk in pork, so you know his

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Speaker 14: vocabulary is a little different. And also, Marvin, see why

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Speaker 14: you felt guilty when your wife walked in watching the Combine.

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Speaker 14: The reason being is I've seen some clips from the Combine.

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Speaker 14: One was they're doing stretching drills where one guy pushes

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Speaker 14: another guy's legs over his head to see how far

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Speaker 14: they can go back. That would be kind of embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: For my wife to walk in on.

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Speaker 14: But my standard day trivia style is this so Kate

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Speaker 14: Cunningham has had four straight games of at least tennisis

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Speaker 14: and two blocks. If he does that tonight against the Cavaliers,

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Speaker 14: he'll reach a record that's only meant one time since

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Speaker 14: the NBA and ABA merger. Do you guys know who

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Speaker 14: the other player is the only player to have five

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Speaker 14: straight games of tennisists and two blocks in consecutive games?

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Speaker 3: What decade?

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Speaker 14: The nineties?

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Speaker 3: Nineties?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Pauli a Keem Elijah One. No, Marvin great Hill, No,

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Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady. Not a star player, but a good name.

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Speaker 3: All right, give us the answer. It is mooky, mooky,

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Speaker 3: mooky Blake. Okay, looky, looky, here comes mooky Yeah. Stat

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Speaker 3: of the day, Sat of the day of the day, status.

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Speaker 6: Here comes, here comes that what stat.

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Speaker 2: Of the day?

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Speaker 3: Alrighty?

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Speaker 2: I need to clarify something by one of my sources

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Speaker 2: talking about the Basketball Hall of Fame. I got this

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Speaker 2: note to clarify the Naysmith Hall of Fame criteria doesn't

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Speaker 2: reflect the lean towards the pro in international success, but

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Speaker 2: the selections reflect that reality. The reality is the Basketball

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame selection committee tends to be pro and

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Speaker 2: big market oriented. So I just want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that have that have some clarity there. Okay, Todd has

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Speaker 2: a podcast that he started recently. It's called The Toddcast

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Speaker 2: Insvatable a Dan Patrick dot com. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there's really a theme other than Todd's life Todd's thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Dylan is the host with him, And there was a

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Speaker 2: portion of the latest podcast that was released yesterday that

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Speaker 2: that caught my ear. So here is Todd Fritz on

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Speaker 2: the todcast.

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Speaker 8: But I used to have this great group of friends,

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Speaker 8: as a lot of us do growing up in elementary school,

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Speaker 8: junior high school. You all go to the playground of

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Speaker 8: the park and hang out, make it, make out with

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Speaker 8: each other's girlfriends, you know, but kind of just you know, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, you're hanging out with your guy friends and

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, one of them wants to experiment

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Speaker 8: while you playing the Guitari twenty six hundred console and

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Speaker 8: it's like all of a sudden, leak that well, all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, someone's touching you while you're playing Pitfall.

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Speaker 11: Harry.

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Speaker 6: It's like, all right, fred, I didn't know you felt

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Speaker 6: that way about me. I know you have a decision

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Speaker 6: to make go along with.

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Speaker 3: It, and because you were having a cute day, I.

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Speaker 7: Was having a cute day.

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Speaker 8: But the decision is, hey, I'm not like that, but

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm flattered, or you like, let him do

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Speaker 8: what he wants to do and just you see where

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Speaker 8: it goes.

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Speaker 3: And maybe who knows, maybe you're into it, ton.

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Speaker 8: You know what, sometimes you have to take a chance

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Speaker 8: in life, and if it's something that's disgusting or horrible

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Speaker 8: to you, don't do it again. But in the moment,

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Speaker 8: especially if you're a little horny and you haven't been

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Speaker 8: with somebody in a while and you're playing guitar, you're

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Speaker 8: just pretending like it's not happening, and you're maybe picturing

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Speaker 8: this girl that you a crush on in one of

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Speaker 8: your classes, and nobody needs to know while you're playing

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Speaker 8: the video games, who's doing what you.

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Speaker 7: Close your eyes, it could be anybody ton a lot

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Speaker 7: of divulging right there.

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Speaker 3: How did we get to that point?

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Speaker 6: I don't even know.

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Speaker 8: I'd have to listen back to what came before and

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Speaker 8: after that kind of thing. But it might have been

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Speaker 8: some slight embellishment there.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not the shy type. Probably I'll just leave

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Speaker 6: it as as stated. I think it's the best way

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Speaker 6: to do it. Okay, I don't think it really needs more.

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Speaker 3: You had some really interesting friends, some good friends.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, just Dylan brings it out in meuess

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Speaker 6: I just did it.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes you just open Oh, I don't think me in

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Speaker 8: the right movie.

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Speaker 3: We're not blaming Dylan.

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Speaker 7: Strugg interview excills posts.

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Speaker 2: I mean you did talk about nerve football in the

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Speaker 2: backyard and your pants were down.

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Speaker 6: There was a previous reference to that.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes, you know, sometimes you get a little distracted.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well there's more of that.

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Speaker 2: There's more of that where you know, you can listen

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Speaker 2: on the toodcast and it's available.

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Speaker 3: Dan Patrick tuk, I do need to.

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Speaker 7: Practice slowing down a little bit, which about four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Times you go you go fast. I thought that the

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Speaker 2: tape was sped up. I thought that, you know, when

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Speaker 2: they recorded it that it was.

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Speaker 6: Just faster one of those forty five records on seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it found out that that wasn't the case. Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 9: It felt like a story based in reality to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Todd doesn't. He's done guilty of hyperbole.

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Speaker 2: He usually tell you and then you go, you're telling

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Speaker 2: me too much, Ton, But it's the Toodcast and it's

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Speaker 2: available at Dan Patrick Ellen was bleshed.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 6: He was getting a little comfortable.

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Speaker 3: As long as you're okay with it, it's all good fun.

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Speaker 7: You gotta, you know what you gotta.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's fun to just have some fun and share

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Speaker 6: and and just be out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I have fun and share, but I don't share

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Speaker 3: those things.

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Speaker 7: It's just an unedited me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I never for better or worse, I guess you know.

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Speaker 2: I never played video games. Maybe that's what I was

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Speaker 2: missing out on.

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Speaker 7: That's where you're missed out.

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Speaker 8: And you should have been playing Pitfall, Harry and Adventure

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Speaker 8: and Berserk and Missile Commands, Base Vase.

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Speaker 6: There's lot of stuff going.

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Speaker 3: Don't play video game. It's a sorry one, boss. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks are hosting the Orlando Magic and that's

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Speaker 2: is that Monday, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: It is Monday, March sixteenth, Okay.

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Speaker 2: March sixteenth in Atlanta, and I think it's it says

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks versus Magic City.

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Speaker 10: Is that well, it's the Atlanta Hawks versus the Orlando

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Speaker 10: Magic But the theme is Magic City Mondays. Yeah, And

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Speaker 10: so they have a sweatshirt Magic City Mondays got the

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Speaker 10: Hawk's logo. It is a legit thing between the Hawks

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Speaker 10: and Magic City, the chicken wing establishment.

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Speaker 6: So I won't be here.

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Speaker 2: And Marvin when we went down for a celebrity family

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Speaker 2: feud after we were done later that day, Marvin and uh, Mario,

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Speaker 2: So you guys go, hey, we're going to go to

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Speaker 2: Magic City. So I gave them one hundred dollars and

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Speaker 2: they wanted to make it rain, and I think you

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Speaker 2: made it drizzle maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was gone in about thirteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: But you fell in love with as somebody as soon

878
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Speaker 3: as you walked in.

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Speaker 10: Correct, Oh my goodness. If basketball terms, it was Steph Curry.

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Speaker 3: What what do you remember her name? I can't tell you.

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Speaker 6: That's the right answer. That is the right answer, Marvin,

882
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell you.

883
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Portia cinnamon. I mean, I mean all right.

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Speaker 6: She was strong.

885
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Speaker 10: I mean I took out my own money like you

886
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 10: know what, cashed me out also.

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Speaker 2: But you weren't the big spender, Oh I was not.

888
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: There were there were some known people in there that

889
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Speaker 2: were spending, spending a few thousand.

890
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Speaker 3: I'm guessing lo.

891
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Speaker 6: Ba Wow had my yearly salary in his hands.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

893
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Speaker 2: Two hours in the books, One war to go, Robert

894
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Speaker 2: or or oh will join us coming up right after

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Speaker 2: this