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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Getty, Armstrong and gettet and now he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and get Getty not live from studio c Armstrong

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Speaker 3: and Getty.

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Speaker 2: We're off for taking a break.

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Speaker 4: Come on enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and Getty replay.

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Speaker 2: We think you'll enjoy it, sir, So are you raw

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Speaker 2: dogging the air?

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Speaker 3: This is kind of funny and interesting in a couple

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Speaker 3: of different ways. So it says Taylor Lorenz human being

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Speaker 3: that we've talked about before.

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Speaker 5: She was a.

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Speaker 3: Washington Post columnist that was so over the top and

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Speaker 3: nuts they had to let her go from the Washington

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Speaker 3: bo start did she quit? Whichever one it was, They

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Speaker 3: couldn't be They couldn't work together anymore. First of all,

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Speaker 3: she's super crazy, pro Hamas and everything like that, and

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Speaker 3: wrote a column for the WAPO accusing Joe Biden to

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Speaker 3: being a war criminal for supporting blah blah blah all

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Speaker 3: back crap. Anyway, she's got a book out to talk

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Speaker 3: about her days in journalism at the Washington Post and

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Speaker 3: stuff that no one will ever read. And she had

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Speaker 3: a book event over the weekend in which, uh, and

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Speaker 3: as this will become clear in a second, she was

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Speaker 3: super worried about COVID for some reason this book event.

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Speaker 3: Oh and well, I'll just read this tweet first, She

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Speaker 3: tweets out, planning a COVID safe book launch took months.

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Speaker 3: Why did it even cross your mind? This is this

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Speaker 3: is too, this is contemporary. This was two days ago.

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Speaker 3: Planning a COVID safe book launch took months and thousands

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Speaker 3: of my own dollars, ensuring, testing outdoor space, uv lights

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Speaker 3: and a lit other precautions.

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Speaker 4: Okay, how insane is that? I didn't want to steal

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Speaker 4: your thunder in case that's where it's going. But her

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Speaker 4: main what she's known for mostly am I still in

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Speaker 4: your thunder? I don't know, is absolutely rabid enforcement of

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Speaker 4: online especially never challenging the mainstream, especially during COVID. If

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Speaker 4: you dared suggest there was a problem with knockdowns or vaccines,

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Speaker 4: were she wanted you docked ruined deep platform, called out

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Speaker 4: your career.

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Speaker 3: Over She's a freaking lunatic. God, that is crazy. So

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Speaker 3: you're launching your book, you spend thousands of your own

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Speaker 3: dollars to make sure everybody gets tested, now really before

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Speaker 3: they're allowed in the book thing u V lights whatever

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Speaker 3: those are for, and a little of other precautions. Mean, awhile,

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Speaker 3: you dumb f's, I'm glad I didn't actually say it. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: you dumb f's are out there raw dogging the air

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Speaker 3: and spewing your disease laden breath all over your elderly neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Quote from Taylor Lorenz. Yeah, so that's where the phrase

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Speaker 3: raw dogging the air comes from.

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Speaker 2: Raw dogging the air. Lorenz claims that people who don't

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Speaker 2: wear masks in public are quote raw dogging the air.

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Speaker 2: Said this music out. That's usually a phrase I obscene.

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Speaker 3: That's usually a phrase that means you're having sex without

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I was right, it is cause I have

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Speaker 2: seen Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're you're raw dogging if you're

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Speaker 2: having six, which is fine to me.

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Speaker 4: It's also a viral TikTok trend where passengers on airplanes

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Speaker 4: sit silently and without distractions on long flights. I like

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Speaker 4: Putty and Seinfeldt I've never heard that one before anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I know anybody this crazy about COVID,

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Speaker 3: but I know some people that are still pretty damn

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Speaker 2: Really need to be analyzed.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you have an event and you make everybody get tested,

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Speaker 2: Wow, you're an insane person. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she is mentally unbalanced, absolutely true, and just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a terrible human being.

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Speaker 3: So if you hear that, that's making the rounds around

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Speaker 3: right now, since we're talking about COVID, should throw this out.

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Speaker 3: You know old Cash Patel, who might be the director

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Speaker 3: that were for reversing the vacs. If you want to

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Speaker 3: the damage it was doing to you and your children,

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Speaker 3: you could take his pills to reverse any of the vaccines. Wow,

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Speaker 3: whatever it was doing to.

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Speaker 2: You, that's just stealing the money of the easily led suckers.

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Speaker 2: That's just fraud. Wow. Well, yeah, that's fraud, merchant.

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Speaker 4: You know what I should have asked for the clip

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Speaker 4: from Special Report with Brett Beer last night, in which

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Speaker 4: Trey Goudie, former federal prosecutor and a guy I really like, said,

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Speaker 4: as against the Matt Gates nomination, as I was, I

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Speaker 4: am for Cash Patel.

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Speaker 2: I really think he will do a great job.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 2: That means a lot to me.

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Speaker 4: Did he get into specifics, Well, yeah, he just thought

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Speaker 4: Patel did an absolutely fantastic, smart, aggressive job in countering

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Speaker 4: the Russian collusion hoax.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we do have that clip, Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Michael worked elbow to elbow with Cash Patel for two years.

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Speaker 5: You would not know the foundation or the funding of

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Speaker 5: the Steel dossier. You would not know him about five abuse,

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Speaker 5: You would not know about Fusion GPS had it not

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Speaker 5: been for the hard work of a guy named Cash Patel.

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Speaker 5: He is quite candidly the most unfairly maligned person that

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Speaker 5: So I know the left setting their hair on fire

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Speaker 5: is because of what he found, not because of who

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Speaker 5: he is. Because of what he found, you would not

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Speaker 2: If it were not for cash till and his side

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Speaker 2: hustle was selling steak oil that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that, But that's all I need to know,

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Speaker 3: because Trey Goudy has pointed out, I mean, he was hardcore.

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Speaker 3: Matt Gates shouldn't be attorney general hardcore correct. So it's

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Speaker 3: not like he's, you know, going along with it or

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Speaker 3: whatever Trump wants. No, if former prosecutor like that is

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Speaker 3: glad to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Trey Goudy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Patel is clearly in that list of I said yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I think it was that fifty percent of Trump's nominations

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Speaker 4: were rock solid, about twenty five percent were surprising and intriguing,

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Speaker 4: And those are rough numbers obviously. Yeah, Patel's clearly in

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Speaker 3: And since we brought you the phrase raw dogging the

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Speaker 3: the term anxiety, which apparently is popular right now with

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Speaker 4: Some boozeres do that in something does I just well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I tend to think those distinctions.

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Speaker 2: A guy quit drinking. He said.

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Speaker 4: One of the reasons was is it increases the production

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Speaker 4: of cortisol? Was it, which is a hormone that contributes

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Speaker 4: to anxiety. Don't forgive me if that's the wrong hormone, but.

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Speaker 2: So you wake up? I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Hungover and anxious, although the anxiety might be the where's

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Speaker 2: Or who is she? I mean, that will make you anxious, right, yeah? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 4: Or I feel terrible? Am I having a heart attack?

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Speaker 3: Now I got to get a new job. That'll make

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Speaker 3: you anxious too, I said, what, Yeah, that'll will make

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Speaker 2: Or how long are they gonna leave me in here

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Speaker 4: I've told them three times I got to pee or

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Speaker 4: And I've become aware through a bit of research, very

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Speaker 2: That raw dogging, which is fun to say because of

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Speaker 2: the assimilation, not assimilation, assonance and is what what am

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Speaker 4: Alliterations? Alliteration except it's assonance. Yeah, it's it's the vowel

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Speaker 4: sound raw dogging, raw dog.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to say. It can be a number of things.

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Speaker 2: It originated as having unprotected sex. But like if you

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say to my kids, they have

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Speaker 2: Well you don't have to, but it is multi multi use,

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Speaker 3: And then sitting on a plane and staring straight ahead

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Speaker 2: But just I just I'm always amazed.

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Speaker 3: By that, the lack of self awareness for how loud

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Speaker 2: Do you notice nobody else is talking. You've been talking for.

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Speaker 3: An hour and nobody else has been talking. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: Nope, it doesn't. How those people?

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Speaker 3: How do you going through your whole life without without thinking, huh,

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Speaker 3: there's a bunch of human beings here. We could either

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Speaker 3: at this is I'm very self conscious about what I say, so.

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Speaker 4: I tend to form it pretty carefully. I mean, somebody

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Speaker 4: is it appropriate for me to talk now? So I

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Speaker 4: can't imagine somebody who's in that completely polar opposite headspace.

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Speaker 2: I just can't.

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Speaker 3: And then along with the volume, just like so everybody

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Speaker 3: And then when I got out of high school, that's

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Speaker 3: when the fun really started.

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Speaker 2: So I joined the military. I don't recall asking, sir,

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Speaker 2: what the hell do you know anybody like that? And

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Speaker 3: I've been wondering about this my whole Life's.

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show them I'm

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Speaker 1: getting shot apple.

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Speaker 2: Pool and nothing.

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Speaker 3: a baseball fan, particularly latest sensation. Are you into tugboat yet?

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Speaker 3: I've read about tugboat two hundred and seventy pound baseball player,

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Speaker 2: How does it go bad overnight? The truth is it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I've seen that label. You know whose milk is sucky?

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Speaker 4: I love this from Andrew Styles the Definitive List of

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Speaker 4: winners and losers the twenty twenty four election, and actually,

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Speaker 4: he says, the election's over. Donald Trump and the Republicans,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, want a stunning and decide of victory. I

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Speaker 4: The Senate performed very very well, and the House scraped.

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Speaker 2: By for the Republicans. Yeah, mentioned certified government mentioned this earlier.

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Speaker 2: It's an indy bitty wave. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, winners and losers. Winner diversity, actual diversity. All

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Speaker 4: improved his margins in every group. Winner Hillary Clinton no

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Speaker 4: Mental health professionals about to make a fortune treating the

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Speaker 4: and journalists who base their entire personalities on hating Trump.

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Speaker 2: And his Wow, what a way to live your life.

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Speaker 4: All the same people who are cutting off friends and

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Speaker 3: Spend Thanksgiving alone and in the comfort of knowing at

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Speaker 3: least you're not hanging around with Trump voters.

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Speaker 2: You weirdo are evil, That's right. Another winner Dean Phillips.

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Speaker 4: Only Democrat with the balls to run against Biden in

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Speaker 2: He was mocked and ridiculed at the time.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man in the Democratic Party cut his legs out

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Speaker 3: And he was a one hundred percent right it turns.

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Speaker 2: Out, and telling the truth. Yeah, he's not welcome in politics. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Another winner Josh Shapiro. He dodged the bullet of being

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Speaker 4: a hitched to Kamala Harris's w right. He looks smart

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Speaker 4: for not taking the job, which he probably didn't want anyway,

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Speaker 4: we've already forgotten the name of the guy she did

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Speaker 4: pick the guy in the camo had who pranced around

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Speaker 4: and lied about China.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his face? Tap on? How about his weird

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Speaker 4: Please, let's begin laughing at the laughing stock. Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 4: the whole temper tantrum, saying we got to be a

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Speaker 4: reporter of news, not an opinion machine. Tony Hitchcliff and garbage.

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Speaker 4: He goes into how that was like the final week

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Speaker 4: closing argument, look at this monster Trump mounted to nothing,

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Speaker 3: Remember we were counting the days it had, like five

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Speaker 3: days of legs. That Puerto Rico joke as being one

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Speaker 3: media who was hell bent on bringing down Trump. You

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Speaker 3: thought that was your best argument. That comedian's joke apparently

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Speaker 4: Why because they see everything through the lens of identity politics.

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Speaker 4: So this looked like an enormous faux paw and a

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Speaker 4: us normal people, including plenty of Democrats and lefties, as

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Speaker 4: I can't afford my groceries. I don't care what some

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Speaker 4: Hostin and the other ladies of the view for sinking

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Speaker 4: the Harris campaign with the what would you do differently

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Speaker 4: Harris said, in a breathtaking display of unpreparedness.

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Speaker 3: shocked to that answer. So she was trying to throw

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Speaker 3: Kamala a life preserver because she had flubbed the answer

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Speaker 3: the day before, and instead of the life preserver she

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Speaker 3: threw a cinder block that took her under the water.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well, said another winter women. Trump's victory Russia

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Speaker 4: in a golden era of women's rights, in spite of

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Speaker 4: the muling and screeching of the college educated white women

446
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Speaker 4: of a certain age, his chief of staff, Susie Wiles,

447
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Speaker 4: would be the first woman to hold a job. It'll

448
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Speaker 4: soon be safe to play sports again. Women can say

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas and be attractive without getting publicly shamed, etcetera.

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Speaker 3: So wonder you're gonna learn, ladies America does not want

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Speaker 3: a female president.

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Speaker 2: I think that's they'll take away.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was an attempt, and I emphasize

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Speaker 4: attempt at humor, ladies, and I apologize for it.

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Speaker 2: Scott jameson Great on the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I heard somebody say the other day, how about try

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Speaker 3: something different than pantsuits? Two pantsuit ladies who bring in

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Speaker 3: effeminate men to be their underlings, try something different?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh, Margaret thatcher or dresses didn't she I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what they wear, wear anything at and

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Speaker 2: wear nothing.

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Speaker 4: Scott Jennings Great on CNN, Very reasonable, smart conservative, Mark Halperin,

464
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Speaker 4: who's independent reporting in sober analysis, much of which you

465
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Speaker 4: heard mentioned here on The Armstrong and Getty Show is

466
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Speaker 4: vastly superior and more informative than the mainstream media is hackish, hyperventilating,

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Speaker 4: another example of new media just whooping the old.

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Speaker 2: Then some other obscure stuff.

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Speaker 3: The pig reel winner, the pant suit thing is actually interesting,

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Speaker 3: and I learned this from listening to Sarah I isiger

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Speaker 3: in the Dispatch. I hadn't known about level one, level two,

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Speaker 3: level three feminism, but like level two feminism or whatever,

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Speaker 3: maybe one was the pants suit. It's like, see, we

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Speaker 3: can be just like men. We've got our version of

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Speaker 3: suits and here we are in the workplace. And then

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Speaker 3: like the next level of feminism, No, I can dress

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Speaker 3: like kind of hot, like a woman likes two sometimes

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Speaker 3: in a skirt and high heels, and also be effective.

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Speaker 3: And I think that would be helpful to get away

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Speaker 3: from that old level of pants suit thingy. I think

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Speaker 3: there is sort of a subliminal thing going on there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to free you by demanding you adhere

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Speaker 4: to our stereotypes and our orders. You will work outside

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Speaker 4: the home. You will turn your nose up at raising

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Speaker 4: children and being the leader of the family. You will

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Speaker 4: make money for a corporation, and you will wear pants.

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Speaker 2: In the name of freedom, right right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Level threes where whatever you want, do whatever you want,

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Speaker 4: and I tell you what that's And I don't know

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Speaker 4: if there's a name for guys like I'll just speak

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Speaker 4: for myself, who are like women can do whatever they

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Speaker 4: want and achieve whatever they want, and who the hell

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Speaker 4: am I to tell them that it's more satisfying to

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Speaker 4: make another half of a percent for your corporation as

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Speaker 4: opposed to raising children and being the actual functional chief

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Speaker 4: operating officer as a family.

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Speaker 2: You do what you want. I trust you to make

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Speaker 2: the decision.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe in browbeating people to conform to some

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Speaker 4: sort of, you know, prefab image of.

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Speaker 2: What they ought to be.

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Speaker 4: I find it disgusting no matter what you know label

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Speaker 4: it puts on itself. We're going over the winners and

504
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Speaker 4: losers from the recent election. Loser number one, Come on,

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden. The experts told us sleepy Joe would be

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Speaker 4: the most consequential president since FDR.

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Speaker 2: When he dropped out in July.

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Speaker 4: Those same experts compared Biden to George Washington, praising his

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Speaker 4: selfless act as political courage.

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Speaker 2: He will not be remembered that way now.

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Speaker 4: In reality, Biden's decision to run for reelection rights Andrew

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Speaker 4: Styles will be remembered as one of the most reckless

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Speaker 4: acts of political hubris and American history. His selection of

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris as a running mate in twenty twenty, his

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Speaker 4: decision to immediately endorse her also regarded as monumental blunders.

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Speaker 4: This is the legacy Biden deserves.

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Speaker 3: They met Trump and Biden met for two hours yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I find that pretty interesting alone. What were they talking about?

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Speaker 3: Trump says they talked a lot about Ukraine and talked

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Speaker 3: a lot about Israel. But two hours, that's a pretty

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Speaker 3: serious conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I have no doubt. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: to hear it. Honestly.

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Speaker 4: Another loser, of course, Tim Walltz oh right, the camo

525
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: hat guy who around pranced around on stage and lied

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Speaker 4: constantly about China and other weird things. He was supposed

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Speaker 4: to help the Hair's campaign appeal to men. He pretended

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Speaker 4: to go pheasant hunting, cackled with the ladies of the U,

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Speaker 4: and played video games with AOC.

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Speaker 2: He said Republicans were weird. Trump won mail voters by thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Points, right, And obviously, if you're going to pick somebody

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Speaker 3: out of the whole crowd, that was weird. He was

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Speaker 3: almost certainly the weirdest.

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Speaker 2: And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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Speaker 4: Another losers, other losers, the Obamas, and you know, he

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Speaker 4: talked about various things, but they tried to shame black

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Speaker 4: men into voting for Kamala scolding the brothers for hating women.

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Speaker 2: Oh, go away, please go away.

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Speaker 4: Other losers Alex Sorosho, the son of billionaire George Soros,

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Speaker 4: who funneled hundreds of million dollars of dollars into the

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Speaker 4: Democrats in twenty twenty four, hanging out with him at

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Speaker 4: elite conferences, inviting them to his swanky Manhattan pad, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: And some other people you've never heard of. The mainstream

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Speaker 4: media journalists are the worst. They scolded the American people

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Speaker 4: for feeling stressed about the economy and thinking, but Biden

546
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: was too old to run for reelection. They still don't

547
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: understand why no one trusts them or takes them seriously.

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Speaker 4: They try to put their thumbs on the scale for Harris,

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Speaker 4: but it made no difference due to their rapidly diminishing

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Speaker 4: credibility and relevance. They will learn nothing and carry on

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Speaker 4: into the void.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of spending money, did you see that Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 3: campaign gave Al Sharpton a half a million dollars five

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars they gave to Kamala before he did

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Speaker 3: the glowing interview with her. Wow, what kind of shakedown

556
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Speaker 3: is that? And I can't believe that they play that

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Speaker 3: game with Al freaking Sharpton. You gave him a half

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Speaker 3: a million dollars so he do a softball interview with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, more losers, the Lincoln Project go away, shameless griff.

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Speaker 4: There's criminals, terrorists in Iran. Not even Ben Rhodes can

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00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 4: save you. Now, losers.

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Speaker 3: That Al Sharpton thing pisses me off because that interview

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Speaker 3: got a fair amount of play in mainstream media because

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Speaker 3: she was addressing, you know, all the black community and all.

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Speaker 2: That sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't do the interview unless he got a half a

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Speaker 3: million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, can we have some sort of giant

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Speaker 4: statement from you know, the black folks in America, fabulous

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Speaker 4: loyal Americans who disavow the very concept of Al Sharpton

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Speaker 4: being a spokesperson for anybody.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting and not terribly shocking. Well, I guess

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Speaker 2: when you get down.

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Speaker 4: To the the granular detail, it is fairly shocking. But

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Speaker 4: Americans are more reliant than ever on government aid. An

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Speaker 4: aging population, economic distress raised dependence on federal and state support,

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Speaker 4: and it matters a hell of a lot for our elections.

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Speaker 4: As you might guess Wall Street Journal looking into a

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Speaker 4: major study. This is little graphics heavy, but I can

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Speaker 4: interpret it for you. They're talking about the share of

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Speaker 4: personal income from government assistance. How in how many counties

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Speaker 4: is it twenty five percent or more? In nineteen seventy,

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Speaker 4: government safety net money accounted for significant income. That's more

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Speaker 4: than twenty five percent. Twenty five percent or more in

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Speaker 4: fewer than one percent of America's counties.

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Speaker 2: So say that again, in what year?

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Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy it was less than one percent? Okay,

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Speaker 4: in two thousand it went from less than one percent

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Speaker 4: to roughly ten percent. That's the year twenty ten percent,

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Speaker 4: which a tenfold increase is not minor. In the year

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, fifty three percent, more than half of

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Speaker 4: US counties drew at least a quarter of their income

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Speaker 4: from government aid.

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Speaker 3: So this is we were talking about this last week,

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Speaker 3: and now that it's the average person in the bottom quintile.

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Speaker 3: I know this is a lot of complicated talking, but

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Speaker 3: the bottom twenty percent of income earners in America get

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Speaker 3: on average sixty eight thousand dollars per household of transfer payments,

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Speaker 3: and that's left out of every argument about we have the.

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Speaker 2: Highest inequality of any nation in the world.

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Speaker 3: They never include this stuff and what you just talked

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Speaker 3: about there, that's never included in these conversations from Bernie

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Speaker 3: Sanders or probably Tim Walls tonight in the debate. People

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Speaker 3: live in paycheck to paycheck. Well, more people are getting

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Speaker 3: the handouts from the government than ever before.

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Speaker 2: A lot.

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Speaker 4: And as we've discussed with Craig the healthcare Guru, socialism

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Speaker 4: is not a light switch. It's a it's a fungus

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: oh that spreads across a country, and it's programmed benefits

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Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah, sure, there's just no stopping it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the big reasons for this dramatic growth are interesting.

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Speaker 4: Some of them I think most conservatives would jacked out

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Speaker 4: of hand. But it gets a little complicated when you

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Speaker 4: dig into it. There are much larger share of Americans

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Speaker 4: who are seniors. Period, We're living longer, and we've aged

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Speaker 4: as a population, we're not having kids anymore. And healthcare raw, sorry,

620
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Speaker 4: healthcare costs have risen fairly dramatically as they've gotten more fantastic.

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Speaker 4: The technology we have at our disposal to keep ourselves

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Speaker 4: healthy and alive is truly awe inspiring.

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Speaker 2: But it costs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as my doctor said last week, what exactly

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Speaker 3: is the point? Sometimes he wonders, is would you get

626
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Speaker 3: You know, our brains don't work, our bodies don't work,

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Speaker 3: but we hang around longer at a great expense.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, it could be the money is the point

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Speaker 4: in at least some situations. Although it's I understand it's

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Speaker 4: an odd conundrum that a person could sit around rubbing

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Speaker 4: their chin thinking about for a long time. You're not

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Speaker 4: going to turn down medical advances because it's every advance

633
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: is an incremental step. It can lead toward other advances

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Speaker 4: or cures or what have you. But at the same

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00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: time you and your doctor are quite right, Hey, good news,

636
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: we can keep alzheimer suffering Granny alive for one more year.

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: We can stave off for cancer with this new gene therapy.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. What are we doing here anyway? To

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: get back to the major thread of the thing, AROUNI

640
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: here At the same time, many communities, so it's the

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Speaker 4: aging and the development of medical technology number one. At

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Speaker 4: the same time, any communities have suffered from economic client

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Speaker 4: because of the challenges including the loss of manufacturing, leaving

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Speaker 4: government money is the larger share of people's income in

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Speaker 4: such places. You know, I could bore you to death.

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Speaker 4: I won't because I do this for a living and

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00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: kind of enjoy getting the paycheck. But one of the

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Speaker 4: big debates in conservative circles these days is the question

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Speaker 4: of the reagan Esque free trade global economy conservatives versus

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Speaker 4: what's being called the new conservatism or whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: To call it.

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Speaker 3: And everybody's always government conservatism. Some people call it, yeah,

653
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Speaker 3: industrial planning, you know.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes people even call it central planning what have you,

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Speaker 4: and are bellowing at each other about it, as if

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00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: the solutions and the questions and answers are very simple.

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Speaker 4: They're not at all. They're trillions of dollars at sake.

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Speaker 4: So I understand why the people making lots and lots

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Speaker 4: of money want to keep that money flowing. They don't

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Speaker 4: care how much unemployment there is in rural Pennsylvania, for instance.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, oh oh, and the other point

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Speaker 4: I was going to make on the side of the new.

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Speaker 2: Conservatives.

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Speaker 4: Back in Reagan's day, we didn't have the situation where

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Speaker 4: our chief global adversary is our one of our chief

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Speaker 4: trading partners, technology partners, and practically indispensable to the world economy.

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Speaker 4: So if you are pitching free global trade of a

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Speaker 4: reaganesque sort, your pitching continued interaction slash dependence with China,

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Speaker 4: which is just a bad idea. Times have changed, the

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Speaker 4: arguments have to change too, So I have sympathy with

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Speaker 4: both sides, but it is not simple. So for its

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Speaker 4: analysis of government spending, EIG, which is the folks doing

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Speaker 4: the analysis, used a government definition of income that includes

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Speaker 4: spending on programs Americans pay into, such as Medicare and

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Speaker 4: Social Security. Another major government health program, Medicaid, is counted.

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Speaker 4: The analysis also includes unemployment insurance, food stamps, the Earned

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Speaker 4: Income Tax credit, veterans benefits, PELL grants, COVID era payments,

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Speaker 4: and other income supports. States helped pay for some of

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Speaker 4: these programs, like Medicaid, but the federal government covers roughly

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Speaker 4: seven seventy percent of the cost, and it doesn't include

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Speaker 4: other ways government spending floods into corners of America, such

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Speaker 4: as farm subsidies or military bases. So this spending accounts

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Speaker 4: for big and growing share of not only the income

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Speaker 4: of the nation, but also our national debt. We are

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Speaker 4: addicted to government spending slash social programs as a country.

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Speaker 3: There's no weaning off that either. I don't believe you

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Speaker 3: know backwards. I don't think it's possible, but you do have.

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Speaker 4: To be honest about the dollars and cents coming and going,

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Speaker 4: and we're headed for a cliff.

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Speaker 3: So we went from one percent nineteen seventy to over

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Speaker 3: half now correct.

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Speaker 2: Believable.

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Speaker 3: Not very many people could tell you that Armstrong and

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Speaker 3: Getty