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Speaker 1: Now, the Shotguns Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's

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Speaker 2: Dig no man.

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Speaker 3: Dart, your Gredians are welcome to a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 3: The Shotguns Start. It is June twenty fourth, Andy, how

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Speaker 2: Next victory Wednesday? We're recording ot in the actual day

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Speaker 3: That is that what makes it a victory? As I

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Speaker 2: Makes it a victory?

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Speaker 3: I think there we go.

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Speaker 2: You know, the PGA Tours, new new structure. I think,

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so it makes it a victory Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if there's some soccer team or something

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Speaker 2: But people are raving about the Chicago Bulls draft. But

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Speaker 3: But you're sort of a wander right now. So I'm

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Speaker 3: We've written about this on the website the Frida egg

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Speaker 3: But like, are you getting points or to be relegated

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Speaker 3: They will have one hundred twenty players in the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

436
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: Do you know why? Why? Yeah?

437
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: So is potentially have to be metal match play.

438
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: Because they need to fulfill their obligation of two and

439
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: a half hours on network or four hours on network TV,

440
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: and if you close them out on thirteen or whatever, that's.

441
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: Where it has to get. And this is what I've

442
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: been banging the drum for forever. The way you solve

443
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: the TV conundrum is you play off all sixteen spots.

444
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: You get to the last sixteen, we go one through

445
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: sixteen and you get bonused out and the fifteen sixteen

446
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: matches for one hundred grand or.

447
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: Some just have you have matches all over the place.

448
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that way like the TV's way more

449
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: riveting and you're going to hit the end of the

450
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 2: window because you have all these matches.

451
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: To be clear, what we're hearing about, this playoffs is

452
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: just a singular event, a thirty two not it's just playoffs.

453
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: Is the Tour Championship or whatever name we're gonna call it,

454
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: It's not this like week one, week two, week three

455
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: playoff FedEx Cup Playoffs format that we're talking about. Right,

456
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: It's some Now, this is a lot of potential. There's

457
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: a lot of like TBD, but it's one kind of

458
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: it's one sort of mostly match play World Cup style

459
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: event over maybe two weeks.

460
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: Exactly, it's two weeks. It's one event that gets it

461
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: down to sixteen or whatever that number ends up being,

462
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: and then it's this really small sixteen person event. The

463
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: other piece of this is like the last event of

464
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: the year that determines, say, the thirty two people that

465
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: go to the playoffs is also the relegation event. It's

466
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 2: also yeah, so it becomes this big event, and what

467
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: I've heard is like that will be a big time

468
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: market event, like a Chicago, New York type event where

469
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: that's the season ender. Unfortunately that you know, this event

470
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: can't be an Open, so it couldn't be the Western Open.

471
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: Sadly Western Open doesn't exist anymore.

472
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: I think the tour actually has now officially stabbed any

473
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: belief that the Western Open could come back in the heart.

474
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: We're so presumably this would be early mid August that

475
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: all this is going on, this grand relegation Day, final Day,

476
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: then the two weeks of playoffs at presumably some very

477
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: very nice clubs that would have not previously been had

478
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: the zero interest in having a PGA Tour event. You

479
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: know what I can assure you, Yeah, these these events,

480
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: the playoff events in August will not be happening in Memphis,

481
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. I mean, like we'll do more subjective takeaways

482
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: from this. There may be a lot of misguided points.

483
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: You may to quibble with a lot of it. It

484
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: does feel like the right motivations are animating this, Yes,

485
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: this effort, and that is interest meritocracy. They've gotten rid

486
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: of sponsors exemptions. That's good one Tony Fina doing one

487
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: last once on this week of Travelers. After Tony, your boy,

488
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: Ben James, Keith Mitchell, your four sponsors exemptions the travelers,

489
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: though there'll be another season of those I think next year.

490
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: So it's being animated by the right motivations. It's not

491
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: FedEx is in Memphis. We're going to have an event

492
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: in Memphis. That's why we have to have it there.

493
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: It's what could be cool, What could be a cool

494
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: competition format, what could be a cool golf course, what

495
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: could be a what feels like a real meritocracy? What

496
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: could provide clarity simplicity? Do these are the things animating

497
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: it not? You know, Coca Cola is in Atlanta, so

498
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: we're having our big season ending event there and that's

499
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: because they sponsor it. No sponsors exceptions. I think we've

500
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: hit most of the Championship champions Tour Tenants, Challenger Series

501
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: is tracked two primary pathway twenty guys go up. Fields

502
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: are one hundred and forty four players. Purses are at

503
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: least at least four million seventy two old stroke play

504
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: events one hundred and forty four players, maybe one hundred

505
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: and thirty two when it's limited daylight early in the year.

506
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: This is the glorified KFT Tour. There's messaging that it

507
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: is not. The word glorified is doing the work there.

508
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: We're not calling it the KFT Tour, it's calling it

509
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: the glorified KFT Tour. You if you win twice, it's

510
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 3: the quote unquote battlefield promotion. If you win a major championship,

511
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: So say you're I don't know somebody that's in the

512
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: that's in outside the top ninety that won the US

513
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: Opened last week, you'd immediately be able to play call

514
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Travelers a Champions Tour event, you'd be able to go up.

515
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: So you get a battlefield promotion, and you get a

516
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: if you win a major, you're in the field going

517
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: forward for track one, it's there are thirteen of these

518
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: twenty These are twenty events. Thirteen of them are going

519
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: to run concurrent to Champions Tour event. So you're talking

520
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: to this field. Yes, Puerto Rico Open, Barbersol Classic, Reno,

521
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: Tahoe Open, whatever, Barracuda whatever, these did that kind of feel.

522
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 3: So it's somewhere in the middle of KFT and the

523
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: PGA Tour, which I think calling it glorified KFT is

524
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: maybe an appropriate moniker there was, So there's going to

525
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: be a cast system within all these events. Within the

526
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: guard there are firmer, very firm guardrails, like you're not

527
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: moving up really at all, except for those couple of

528
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: carve outs. We just talked about the dut battlefield and

529
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: you can't play down. But within those events, like, there's

530
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: gonna be some shittier Chi Championship Series events like where

531
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: Chip like Rory and Scottie or whoever like that, they're

532
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: gonna pay their way in and be like, yeah, I'm

533
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: still not going to Memphis. I'm still not going to

534
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: Craig Ranch that they may be champions now and then

535
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: within the Challenger Series absolutely gonna be some haves and

536
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: have not events. Still, you know there's gonna be a

537
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: the Seven that have their own quote network window where

538
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: you don't they don't have to worry about playing opposite

539
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: where all the stars are. You're essentially a sun Belt

540
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: game trying to go opposite Alabama LSU, And there's gonna

541
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: be an Occasion seven where you get, like Wednesday Night,

542
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: you're the main show the sun Belt game. So there's

543
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna be games within the game, within the two tracks,

544
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: for sure, haves and have nots. Still, what do you

545
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: make of the Challenger Series quibbles?

546
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of quibbles. I think this

547
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: is really great in terms of golf for professional golfers,

548
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: in the sense of this is the you know, this

549
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: is the feeder tour to the Big Tour. Right, There's

550
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: gonna be some spots for DP World Tour into the

551
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Big Tour, I think, but for the most part this,

552
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: this Challenger Tour will be which is also very close

553
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: to the Challenge Tour, which already exists on the europe Yes,

554
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: the Challenger Tour will What I like about this is

555
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: I've always thought the you know, the idea of like

556
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: being a Korn Fairy Tour player and being like player

557
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: thirty on the korn Fairy Tour list, you're not really

558
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: making a living per se this tour. You can be

559
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: the two hundredth best player in the world and be

560
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: with the with the purse sizes, you can make a living,

561
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: which I think is a good thing. It's one of

562
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: the issues with like right now with the world of

563
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: tennis is like, if you're the eightieth best tennis player

564
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: in the world, you're kind.

565
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: Of looking at what you're making and you're like, uh,

566
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 3: high school or something exactly.

567
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: So with this, I think one of the things that's

568
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: great about it is it ensures if I'm on the

569
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: doorstep to the champions Tour, not not the senior circuit,

570
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: the now big Tour.

571
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: We I gotta start calling it the Championship Tour.

572
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: So if if I'm on the doorstep of the Championship Tour,

573
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: then I have a legit, Like I'm making a living.

574
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I can afford to invest in coaching. I can afford

575
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: to have a house. I could afford if I don't

576
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: live in Jacksonville. I can afford a club to practice at.

577
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: And I think this is a really good thing for golf. Now,

578
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: if I was going to quibble with this, I think

579
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: a huge miss is not having a system where if

580
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: I get really hot and they will say, oh, if

581
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: you win twice, you're up. But I would contend that

582
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: more impressive than winning twice, because winning twice can be

583
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: kind of fluky, and the golf courses aren't going to

584
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: be as good. More impressive than winning twice would be

585
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: someone that goes like and wins once and through ten

586
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: events hasn't finished outside the top eight, and that player

587
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: is just going to be stuck there, yep. And you

588
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: don't know when you're gonna play, Like we've gone through this,

589
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: you don't know when you're going to play the best

590
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: golf of your career, and what you want to do

591
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: is you want to give somebody the opportunity when they're

592
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: playing their best golf in their career, to progress quick.

593
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: This is the way it works in every other sport,

594
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: where if you start playing exceptionally, you move up quickly

595
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: through the game. If you're a hitter in single A

596
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: and you're hitting four hundred, and they're going to move

597
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: you up to double R eight or triple A, and

598
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: if you do the same thing there, they're going to

599
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: move you up to the major leagues.

600
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a hard it's a hard nut to crack.

601
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I think like your season is your season, and you

602
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: can move up. I don't I agree with you. I'm

603
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: trying to play Devil's advocate here. You do a midpoint

604
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: check in a midpoint relegation promotion zone where five you're

605
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: you're essentially asking for kind of like an a on

606
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 3: swing five some sort of rubric. Well maybe not every week,

607
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: but somewhere that's exactly.

608
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: I think like that. Honestly, like we've talked about this,

609
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: I think that a on swing five has worked wonderfully

610
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: and you've gotten some really great stories.

611
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: Find Gerard, Ryan Gerard, Eric Cole, people like that.

612
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, where like Eric Cole has played his way this

613
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: year into like he should be in every signature event

614
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: the way he's playing Ryan Gerard similarly. So, so I

615
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: do think that there is an element of that that

616
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: I would like to see. And you know, from from that,

617
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: maybe maybe there's like a slot that once you've earned

618
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: the amount of points that you know that you're going

619
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: to be in the twenty, there is like the top

620
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: five of that points list get a play up or

621
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: something like that.

622
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: You already know you're going there next year, you get

623
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: a September call up essentially in baseball kind of thing,

624
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: you get your last that's fair. I think it's a

625
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: it's a point we've already we've we've kind of hammered

626
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: here over the years. Like I'm just trying to play

627
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: devils out of it. Like either you're in you're a

628
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: senior in college, you got to play out your college

629
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: year and you get draft. When you get drafted, maybe

630
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 3: had you were pottered as a whatever quarterback and your

631
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 3: senior year at college and you will ever be it's

632
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: just that's what your season is for that season and

633
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: you will reap the rewards the subsequent season, you just

634
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 3: might not be as good. I agree, it's a tough

635
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: not to correct. Probably a midpoint check in would be good.

636
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Are right at the very minimum, it could provide some

637
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: interest you have like a relic to multiple relegation points.

638
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: I you know, I think it's hard, and I think

639
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: that the Devil's advocate of like two relegations would be

640
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: like a year is like really fluky because you know

641
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna play on the West Coast at the beginning

642
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: of the year and if you're if you grew up

643
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: in the north, you go west coast to Bermuda. Those

644
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: aren't your grasses. Like maybe I play best when I'm

645
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: when we get to Bent, you know, and somebody else

646
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: plays really great, puts really well on POA and they

647
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: they you know. So I think, like just generally, I

648
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: love the idea of like you can't play down you're here.

649
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: You do like that there's no qualifying there's no but

650
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: I do think there needs. My big quibble would be

651
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: that if we see, you know, like the perfect example

652
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: of this and this is just would be Jordan Speith

653
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: when he came out and he wins Deer, And let's

654
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: just say that Deer was at the beginning of the year,

655
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: and you have this generationally great young star capable of

656
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: winning majors at age twenty one, but he's stuck in

657
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: this you know, on this other tour.

658
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, it's a tough not to crack one.

659
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: One other thing, I would add, and the tour, someone

660
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: from the tour made this point to us, and I

661
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: think I'm buying it. We have our guard up. We

662
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: approached thing skeptically here that this will provide a clarity

663
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: of what you're playing for in the Challenger series. Know

664
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Speaker 3: exactly what you're getting if you are in the top twenty,

665
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: whereas in prior years or much all the prior systems.

666
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: You know, it was that one year where I think,

667
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: like zero KFT graduates or rookies got to start at

668
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: Sony Open, right, and like, ah, I might be in Sony.

669
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: I might then be off for four weeks because there's

670
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: these you know, past champions exemptions and major medicals and

671
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: sponsors and all these statuses ahead of me that like,

672
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, am I getting I graduated up? But

673
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: I might get twelve starts, I might get twenty. I

674
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: don't know when and where I'm going to get my starts.

675
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: And if you graduate, there is a clarity of purpose

676
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: of what you're playing for to graduate from challenger to champion.

677
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: Like you get top twenty, you're good. You're in all

678
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: those events. Not the Ryder Cup. I guess we're counting that,

679
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: but you know you are in the PGA Tour events.

680
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: So I think I buy that. I think I buy

681
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: the clarity of playing for something that's that is that

682
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: makes it not not like absolute one to one KFT style.

683
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: But you know, should there be more fluidity or more

684
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: osmosis between the two is will be something they take up.

685
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: I would I think the the last thing I'll say,

686
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: you know about about this and and just like this

687
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: is very much a positive statement here the they I

688
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: think they've set up a really good framework, like okay,

689
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: this is where we're starting from, and the premise of

690
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: it is really good in the sense of no sponsored exemptions.

691
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, these are the the two tracks, and like there,

692
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: this is the way it works, like this is the

693
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: way up. This is when you're here, you're here and

694
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: you have to play really well because these are great

695
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: players to stay here. I think the nice thing is

696
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: that if they have this really strong fundamental base, which

697
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: the history of the tour has kind of been like, hey,

698
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: this is the way it works. Oh, sponsor wants to

699
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: do this, Like okay, we'll do that, and what ended

700
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: up happening was like the original concept of the tour

701
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: kind of became a Frankenstein. If you have this really

702
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: strong fundamental base, the nice thing is they can make

703
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: small tweaks. If they watch it for two years and

704
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, you know what we need to do this,

705
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: it will be very easy for them to make small

706
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: tweaks that leads to the tour continually getting better. That's

707
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: what I really like about what they have set up

708
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: is that we're going to actually operate from a really

709
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: strong concept and you can build a really good product

710
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: in the sense of like we are we're here, this

711
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: is what we're saying to fans is the way this works,

712
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: and after two years of watching how how it really

713
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: plays out, we can actually make little tweaks that improve

714
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: the product, as opposed to when you have Frankensteinu's like,

715
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: well we can amputate.

716
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: The leg bolt on an ear here because Coca Cola

717
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: wants it, or this player. You know these are an exemption.

718
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean, what you're speaking to is sort of a

719
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: from the ten thousand foot view of My point is

720
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: like what has been the structural unique uniqueness of professional

721
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: golf is no centralized authority, no centralized power. There's no

722
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 3: strong central power, and that's what made it susceptible to live,

723
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: susceptible to poachers. And what you're talking about, what we're

724
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: talking about here is like, this is our structure. This

725
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: is the way it goes. These are the plans. Either

726
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: get on there, we can tweak it, get on board,

727
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: or don't. But this is how we're operating right now.

728
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: And you know there will be voices and stakeholders that

729
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: come in with a little bit of lobbying power, but

730
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: it does seem to be taking sort of a strong

731
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: central power and creating something out from that. And that's

732
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: that's something golf really hasn't had. If you're looking for

733
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Speaker 3: a strong central power at the belt line, the waistline,

734
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739
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741
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742
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743
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Speaker 3: were rocking these all week in Shinnacock Kills. We have

744
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Speaker 3: the Southampton I was wearing that one. That was just coincidence,

745
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Speaker 3: but I liked the style that I was in Southampton

746
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Speaker 3: at the time, Newport and watch Hill, I think you

747
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748
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749
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750
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751
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752
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754
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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's a big decision for me which mob jack

755
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Speaker 2: belt I'm gonna be pulling out. When we were when

756
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Speaker 2: we were moving, there was somebody over at our house

757
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Speaker 2: and and this gentleman happened to see my belt collection

758
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Speaker 2: and he was like, WHOA, that's good. You got a

759
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760
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761
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Speaker 2: I had numerous people comment at the US Open, Where'd

762
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Speaker 2: you get that belt? I also had a lot of

763
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: people asked me how I was sleeping. But that's a different, different,

764
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Speaker 2: different deal. But I did legitimately get a lot of

765
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766
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Speaker 3: Of red, white and blue. One I'd recommend off the

767
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Speaker 3: top of my head is the kennebunk Port When when

768
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Speaker 3: I wore at the US Open a few times in

769
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Speaker 3: condition to Southampton, I brought because I drove, like I

770
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Speaker 3: don't pack, I just like throw everything I have in

771
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Speaker 3: the back of the car and take off. I think

772
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Speaker 3: I brought. I think I brought like four or five

773
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774
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775
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776
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777
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Speaker 2: Do you want? Do you want to know what else

778
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Speaker 2: you could get in red, white and blue for the

779
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780
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781
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Speaker 2: sorts of stuff.

782
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: Terry cloth polo, which I'm wearing right now. These are

783
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: these are bomb, These are awesome. I love this. I

784
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 3: had had Bones came up to me. I was bouncing

785
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: around and said, oh, what material is that? I like that.

786
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: You're gonna be on the yacht later and Southampton was like, no, no,

787
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to be at my Airbnb recording a podcast.

788
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: So we got hats head covers. The whole deal with the.

789
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Speaker 2: Terry cloth polo, I imagine, you know, if you're on

790
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Speaker 2: a boat, you jump off, you towel off real quick.

791
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: You throw that on. It's pretty good setup. We got

792
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: an F one, a shotgun one. I am uh thinking

793
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: if I might go order one right now?

794
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: There their money, they fit, They got hats head covers.

795
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm feeling my patriotism could wax and Wayne, I'm feeling

796
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: very patriotic right now. These days. The soccer boys have

797
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: me fired up. I was thinking about it today. The

798
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: soccer seems to really be bringing people together, like fired

799
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: up about it. You know, who knows they may flame

800
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: out with me and poorly, but you've got people saying, oh,

801
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: this could really happen, they could go far. The opportunity

802
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: for the Ryder Cup team to win away next year

803
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: in Ireland is massive, I think, you know, we say

804
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: this every every four years, but just having watched the

805
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: hockey at the Olympics, seeing what's happening with the American

806
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: soccer team right now, sort of when you're that underdog

807
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: status or it's been a long time in the hockey

808
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: case has been miracle and ice. In soccer, you know,

809
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 3: we're just not a great soccer country thus far. So

810
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: I've win a Ryder Cup for the first time and

811
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: whatever it will be at that point thirty some years,

812
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty massive. I know that's not the

813
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: World Cup, it's not, you know, as big as the Olympics,

814
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: but it's a significant opportunity and they should be dialed

815
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: in on it from right now all the way through

816
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: to next September. And so just I don't know, something

817
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 3: I've been seeing with the soccer team this the last

818
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, just thinking about what what what opportunity

819
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: is out there for the Ryder Cup to really become legends,

820
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: so they might get whax. I'm sure they will anyways,

821
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: feeling patriotic. What's that champions? Champions? They're going as challenger,

822
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: but they can emerge champions, So go to the pro

823
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: shop check out the fourth of July stuff? All right?

824
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: Any other clean up on the new PGA Tour that

825
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: you want to generally positive review. It feels like.

826
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: I just wanted to run through what I What I

827
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: would suggest is is the ten events that are locked in.

828
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: If I had to educated guests, please all right? Uh,

829
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Farmers which is Tory Pines, which is now the.

830
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 3: Century speaking of names and brands are fleeting, Okay.

831
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: It's definitely not an open, the Phoenix Open, which will

832
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: be a closed tournament, not an open.

833
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: The w M Classic, Phoenix Classic or whatever I want

834
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: to call it.

835
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Speaker 2: I hope they change. They have to change all the

836
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: opens because none of these are open. Yes, at and

837
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: t Pebble Beach. So that gets us to three. Genesis

838
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: at Riviera gets us four.

839
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: Unsubstantiated rumor very unsubstantiated heard at Shinnecock that maybe Riviera

840
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: is not super interested in hosting a PGA Tour event

841
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: every year anymore, which would be interesting, very unsubstantiated, just

842
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: just whispers, you know, like do we want to do

843
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: this every February or whatever? That would be interesting. That

844
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: would be a loss for the tour for.

845
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: A club that actively doesn't like to have people at

846
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: the club, that would be that would make sense.

847
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: And it's of course privately owned, and you know, it

848
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: can be kind of when powers it can be just

849
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: decided on a whim there.

850
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: They dissuade usage from their own members. So I don't know.

851
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: It could be a long way off, but there were

852
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: rumblings and murmurs about it anyways. Okay, so but that

853
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: would for sure be a track one. So we got

854
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: four api Arnold Palmer five. I would say that the

855
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: RBC Heritage is in six from what I've heard, potentially

856
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: to RBC events two events.

857
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: What I'm hearing.

858
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: I heard Canada was in. I also heard Canada might

859
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: be going to the Fall yesterday, which would be of

860
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: great emotion of the Open. Okay, the Cadillac Championship is

861
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: in therell so that gets us to what is that six?

862
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: Seven to Florida.

863
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: There'll be three Florida events, right, Cadillac, Bayhill and Players,

864
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: So that gets us a seven events are recounting the

865
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: players no, we're seven, okay without the players because we

866
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: got to get to the the ten of fifteen, the

867
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: truest would be in.

868
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: That's eight.

869
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: Then this is my kind of favorite one that I've

870
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: heard so far. TPC Craig Ranchero in in. I mean,

871
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna see the best players of the world duke

872
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: it out at one of the All's iconic designs.

873
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: So bad.

874
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: It's good that they got their way into the Championship Series.

875
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: And like, theoretically it makes sense for Dallas to be

876
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: an elevated significant market event. Uh, the details there don't

877
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: make it one at all, but it seems like the

878
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: CJ Cup Iron Nelson will be there.

879
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what I'm interested about here is that we've just

880
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: gotten to nine Memorial June yet, right, Yeah, Memorial is ten,

881
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: Travelers is in. That's eleven. They will they're in the

882
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: BMW is theoretically. I have heard that a Chicago event

883
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: is locked in, because everybody's been like, where's Chicago on

884
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: this list? I heard I've heard that there will be

885
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: a full time Chicago event. So that's twelve.

886
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I think.

887
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: Those are those are what I would say locks for

888
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: this new champions Tour, the new new look Champions Tour.

889
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: It's not too dissimilar from what we have now in

890
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: terms of the events being the haves and those that

891
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: are the have nots, except maybe a CJ Cup. Can

892
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 3: I ask you a question, do you think like what

893
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: they announced is is major major change and major rebranding.

894
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: I heard a lot of people, a few people, I

895
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 3: should say, say this is just codifying what already exists

896
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: in terms of sort of we kind of informally know

897
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: what events are higher or what events are more more

898
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: significant than others.

899
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's just making it really formalized.

900
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: What about you, I think it's pretty major. I think

901
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: when you're putting up guardrails and say you cannot play,

902
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: you cannot play Up, you cannot play Scotti, Scheffler, you

903
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: cannot go play Colonial, or you cannot go down, I

904
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: think that's a pretty major change. And I think creating

905
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: new official brands in the series, whatever their names end

906
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: up being, is a pretty massive change. See change in

907
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: the tour. I get that it's codifying a lot of

908
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: things that are sort of informally exist right now. But

909
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: for me and the previous point I made about like

910
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 3: creating a strong central authority or government or league office.

911
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: I think it's a real massive change in the way

912
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour operates. The very firm guardrails of you

913
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: are in this category, you are this class of series.

914
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: He's a player or not as I think a significant

915
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: change because you can't go physically, you are unable to

916
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 3: go and play down. I think that's a major change.

917
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: In addition to the two official brandings of one series.

918
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: In another track, so anything else on this PGA Tour

919
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: commissioners now Brian roll up. We were told to plot

920
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 3: Joe Gordassus to stand up and clap for the CEO

921
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: also becoming the commissioner, which is amusing. It's fine, I like.

922
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: I think they cut right after that, uh to to

923
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: on Golf Channel to Gary Williams and Rich and Rich's

924
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: first question to Gary was like, how would you describe

925
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 2: jabon Hand's tenure as commissioner? And I think the word

926
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: that Gary used, which I thought was was really good.

927
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: I would have struggled on the spot with this was unfulfilled.

928
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: Oh hey, he lasted longer. He gave us speech Chester.

929
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 3: They lasted longer than Yasir Yaser got out before he did,

930
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: which was not what odds would have been against that,

931
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: and you know, prior summers to this one he did

932
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: give a farewell and Gordon was emphatic the transition has

933
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: been as good as it possibly could, which, to be fair,

934
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: I've heard from several counts that it's been an amazing

935
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: like partnership. Hand and hand has been awesome being whatever,

936
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: helping roll Up understand the ins and outs. So yeah,

937
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: it was a full, full laundry list of speeches yesterday.

938
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what it means that roll Up's also

939
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: the commissioner. Now he's got the for profit and then

940
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: also the the league as well. He's in charge of both.

941
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: It kind of makes sense anyways, it.

942
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: Wouldn't make and if there was somebody else and then

943
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: they get into a little tiff and it's like, how

944
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: do you have power?

945
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do? You know, you're just the title you know?

946
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: All right? I think that does it for the big

947
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 3: PGA Tour news. Should we get into you have any

948
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: other straight thoughts? I guess you know what everybody's doing.

949
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: If you were going to uh for the kind of

950
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: the match.

951
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: Play, the tour championship event whatever, Yeah, what.

952
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: You know with with the idea of like it can

953
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: be kind of anywhere because of the light nature of it.

954
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: What what would be at the top, you know, top

955
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: couple of your of your list of places to go.

956
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: Like for real or for like I love Gary Williams.

957
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: He suggested we're going to Mullen or he would love

958
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: to go to Mullin Nebraska.

959
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: For you could go there, though, if you can, I don't.

960
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: Think we're going to though, do you? I think you can?

961
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it's could you to be clear here,

962
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: is there any any chance this goes international? Only in anyway?

963
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: Probably though okay, there's a chance like it would be amazing.

964
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: But we're talking in the August time frame, so you

965
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: know you're in winter in Australia.

966
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is with TV and why Mullen

967
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: isn't isn't a real option? Is like you're you're still

968
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: going to need a thousand people on site with lodging

969
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: and you know, food capabilities.

970
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: And at the bare minimum, and the pampered f's need

971
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: to be pampered, which they can maybe go to one

972
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: of the ranches. Okay, do you think Shinnakock could have it?

973
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't think they will they could they have.

974
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: I think you look at these USGA that died in

975
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: the wool USGA clubs, which I would say are Shinnacock,

976
00:58:54,360 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: the Country Club, Oakmon, Marion, lacc Piners number two just

977
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: crossed all these off because you know, when when the

978
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: tour was talking about moving Pebble to the summer, the

979
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: Pebble wasn't super thrilled about it because of many reasons.

980
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: But the USCA put their thumb on the scale and said, well,

981
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: that's when we host the US Open there, and we

982
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: don't want a PGA Tour event feeling like a US Open.

983
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: There was there was this notion that Pebble plays better

984
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: and let's move it to August as a playoffs event

985
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: that was bandied about in the last whatever in twelve months.

986
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so I would take like those out. But I

987
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: think there are like there's so many great venues that

988
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: are on the table now because of the match play.

989
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: You know, no infrastructure thing. Are you looking at like

990
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: top one hundred courses in America rankings you know, which

991
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: equival with the rank kings all you want, they're not

992
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: really rankings, but and looking at that kind of venue

993
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: are I think.

994
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Like The one that I've seen put on there that

995
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: I think is totally in the mix is Banded Dunes.

996
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: One that I would throw in there that's new, but

997
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: it won't be so new by twenty twenty nine, twenty

998
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: thirty in the same vein as Rodeo Dunes, which, like

999
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Unverish would be really cool if people could stay in

1000
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: Denver and go to that and all of a sudden

1001
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: when part doesn't matter, it makes way better if they

1002
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: go to Abandon. I would just urge them to play

1003
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: Pacific Dudes, the best golf course on the on the

1004
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: propertyh you know, I would urge that. But then you

1005
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: go down more is like, what about Prairie Dunes?

1006
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: What can we I mean, look this ESPN, I don't

1007
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: know if it's a report. Got Cyprus and Pine Valley

1008
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 3: were thrown in there to put those in the same bucket,

1009
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: Like are we going to Chicago Golf Club? Are we

1010
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: going to National Golf Links of America? Are we like

1011
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: we're telling Walker Cup style event?

1012
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: I think it. I think it's possible, now, you know,

1013
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: I do if it if you go to a club

1014
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: and say there, we're bringing the sixteen best golfers on

1015
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: the planet your members all get to come. There's not

1016
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: going to be a huge grandstands, there's gonna be no ropes,

1017
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: and it's just gonna be televised. Event I think it

1018
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: opens up like a lot more places. I think, like

1019
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: in August is that I don't think you want to

1020
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: do that, but Friar's head, I think that would all

1021
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden be on the table.

1022
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 3: Uh Are you worried at all about like the way

1023
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: that how far these guys hit it right now? But

1024
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: it goes into effect.

1025
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna be playing at playing at mL

1026
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: R according to the you know the USGA.

1027
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: Is wing Foot that is a USGA club. Probably not,

1028
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: but you're talking New York area called.

1029
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: Up. I think you go down the down the list

1030
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: of like anywhere that's not you know U s g

1031
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: A like regular rotation is in the mix.

1032
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: What about PGA courses like Olympic and Congressional branded that

1033
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: they don't really have PGA courses. Think the p g

1034
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: A has the juice like the us Yah No, no,

1035
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: I think just just checking just I mean, I think

1036
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: there are a lot of really neat, neat potential venues

1037
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: that they could go, you know, sleepy Hollow, which hosted

1038
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: a mid am you know.

1039
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: More Comberset Hills Like these are places people don't know

1040
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: a ton about but would be super fascinating to watch.

1041
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: Uh, realistic, realistic outcome is what we get? Like outcome

1042
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: Whistley Straits type places? Is that?

1043
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I have, I'm still talking about an organization

1044
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: with questionable taste. You know these are This is the

1045
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: same organization I had fun with the write up where

1046
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: Kevin asked me to write up this thing about potential,

1047
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, where we'll end up in and with Washington,

1048
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: DC is like they should ask they should really push

1049
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: to get congressional, but they probably won't, so we'll end

1050
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: up at TPC potomach or they'll just go to Caves

1051
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: Valley and say we've satisfied the DC market with Caves Valley.

1052
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, I don't want to speak.

1053
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: I think wouldn't Congression be open to that? I think

1054
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: that maybe I don't know.

1055
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: Every few years every year big not that, oh not no,

1056
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: not that.

1057
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, absolutely not that. I'm sorry. I

1058
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: met more of like maybe a match play, maybe the

1059
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: match play of that. You know a lot of places

1060
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: are open to that. Interesting. To be clear, these I

1061
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: think it's a positive development that these are quote unquote

1062
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: wish list. It may be superhigh in the sky, but

1063
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: it feels like roll App and his deputies are at

1064
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: least thinking the right way, or thinking aspirationally, or at

1065
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: least like not you know, they're starting from the right

1066
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: place as opposed to let's go here because FedEx lives

1067
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: here or because we could maybe make more money. So

1068
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: interesting times, exciting, exciting times to have a thrace a

1069
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: week podcast and then you know, focus on professional golf.

1070
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: So uh, could be good. Could be a good future

1071
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: for the PGA Tour as for the present. As for

1072
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: the present, let's get to our schedule for the week.

1073
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: This week we have the Travelers Championship AAD t PC

1074
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Speaker 3: Cromwell in Hartford or Cromwell Connecticut, I guess outside of

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: Hartford TPC River Highlands. I didn't even say it right,

1076
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: just notables, just like the courses we were just talking

1077
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: about TPC. I mean, this is the only event in

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01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: New England. And think about how many courses there are

1079
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: in New England, Like Great Court in New England you

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: go to in late June, and we're going to TPC

1081
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: River Highlands. You know they could rotate, They could rotate

1082
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: from Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut. It could bounce her out,

1083
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: but we do TPC River Highlands. It's a successful PGA

1084
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: Tour event. I just want to be clear, like the

1085
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: fans show up for this. It's rowdy, it's in. You know,

1086
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: the title sponsors spends through the nose on this, but

1087
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: it's not the best venue at all. Defending champ is

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: Keegan Bradley. Notables are Ludwig PC, Patrick Cantlet, the abstainer,

1089
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: Tommy Fleetwood, Padeki Batsiama, Colin Morikawa, Xander Scottie, Jordan Speeth

1090
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: on the sponsors exemption makes notables Justin Thomas, uh this,

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, I got a quibble. I loved I love

1092
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: kvv's right up today where he did, like cleaned out

1093
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: the notebook from the US Open, like birdies and bogies,

1094
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: pars birdies and bogies, I think is how he sorted it,

1095
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: and he gave Justin Thomas a birdie because he finished

1096
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: top twenty in a major consecutively for the first time

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01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two. Is this is this the framework

1098
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: in which we're discussing Justin Thomas. Now consecutive top twenties

1099
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: makes him in the birdie category.

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: Well, and he hasn't done it.

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01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty two. Anyways, he's a notable for River Highlands.

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: It's been a Bundy road.

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01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 3: You know that's the cutoff. Yeah, that's the cutoff we're

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: going with.

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: It's like, honestly, it is like a step in the

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: right direction for where he spent.

1107
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: This is on golf chain. Yeah, that's why he made birdies.

1108
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: That's why he made birdies. I don't know. It just

1109
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: seems like we said held him to a higher standard.

1110
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 3: That's just a good write up by KAVV. It wasn't

1111
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: necessarily wrong. I just it's interesting seeing him.

1112
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, you're fiv. Somebody's busting into the paint.

1113
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: We're back home. We're back home. Uh. I was thrown

1114
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: to the wolves this morning, but I can't say anything.

1115
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: Multiple camp drop offs, lunch, two lunches, snacks, let me

1116
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 3: run around Golf Channel. This is a split between Golf

1117
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: Channel and NBC. Note well not on CBS. NBC gets

1118
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: a signature event. You know, they signed that right steal

1119
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: and then ended up with fewer signature events than I

1120
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: think CBS has the playoffs this year, so we will

1121
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: not get Nance and Immelman at Cromwell. This is going

1122
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: to be an NBC finish. We get more Kisner facts,

1123
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: Dan Hicks. I believe the NBC team going to Cromwell,

1124
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: which is that.

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: That's a change.

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 3: We usually get the yeahs CBS different different. One on

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: the women's LPGA PGA of America is the KPL Should

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Speaker 3: we do picks?

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01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1130
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are we doing five guys of monitor or did

1131
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: you prepare them?

1132
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: No?

1133
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.

1134
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask, but I figured the rollout discussion

1135
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 5: was going to be an hour and we didn't need to.

1136
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: We didn't need the Wednesday show after the US Open.

1137
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: It's sort of a ramshackle operation, though it did deliver us.

1138
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: Tony would be in my five Guys of honor.

1139
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: Just a guy hasn't gotten any any any breaks this.

1140
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: Year off, that's ridiculous.

1141
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 2: Great player, great great guy.

1142
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna got any breaks. We're gonna do the the

1143
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: accounting of how many points he accrued as a sponsor exemption.

1144
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be kind. I don't think to Tony,

1145
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: who's you know, counting often can't be kind to him.

1146
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 3: That's a tough, tough scene.

1147
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: Sometimes my pick, I'm gonna go with h with a

1148
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: guy that's rudding two major championships, top twenties. He posted

1149
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: on on social media. He's going to his favorite event

1150
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: justin Thomas is my pick. At the Travelers need to

1151
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: need to get him, get him on the you know,

1152
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: Rom really screwed me over last week. I need to

1153
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: get some get some money in the door here, So

1154
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go jt at at the Travelers.

1155
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: I have a lot available. I'm looking at the Friday

1156
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 3: Golf Club pool eventually. Right now now, PJ says, this

1157
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: isn't a one to one situation because who I have

1158
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: available in the air is not.

1159
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 5: I'm just saying when I get passed from Will Knights,

1160
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 5: the commissioner of the One and Done League, that he

1161
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: aunits you and it's not always the same.

1162
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: So should I go deep off the board, go like

1163
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: a Bridgeman style? Here it worked. I know I'm just

1164
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: gonna take Sam Burns. I have them available.

1165
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's his first event as a sergeant.

1166
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 3: I got a I got a love I got a

1167
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: lovely note from Joseph Lavanna this morning at six point thirty.

1168
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: He said, PJ missus Clark who mister Clark Jim Clark

1169
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 3: was at the event yesterday and this is from Leamaya.

1170
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: She doesn't really she apparently we had extra grape leftover

1171
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: and she thanks Joseph for from the extra the quote

1172
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: extra grape for the house, the Clark household that was

1173
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: brought made its way over from Southampton. But she doesn't

1174
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: watch any golf, just listens is the pod and was

1175
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: asking your dad when Sam Burns came on, like who

1176
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 3: is this? And your dad said, oh, that's the deputy

1177
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 3: and your mom was like, oh, yeah, that's right. I

1178
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: clocked him immediately when he was referred to as the deputy,

1179
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: but had no idea Sam Burns was when he was

1180
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 3: on TV.

1181
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: Now he's a sergeant, so it's the sergeant.

1182
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sam, did you see?

1183
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: I just saw this this morning as I was reading things.

1184
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 5: Gabby Herzig talked to Sam's mom on after he lost

1185
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 5: on Sunday and she said he's not going to Europe

1186
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 5: because the wife is thirty seven weeks pregnant, so he

1187
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 5: might not play the Open, might be.

1188
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: Scottish, but definitely maybe not even doing the Open.

1189
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 5: Said he won't be going to Europe and this will

1190
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 5: be his last major. I don't know how true it is,

1191
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 5: but that's what his mom said.

1192
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: It's like going back to the old days of you know,

1193
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: Americans and uninterested in going you know, the eighties. Interesting. No,

1194
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 3: that's a perfectly reasonable excuse to not travel abroad if

1195
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: your wife's pregnant. Okay, give a pick, Peach.

1196
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going full redemption story, Tommy Fleetwood, full circle.

1197
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,480
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so Fleetwood Sergeant Sam and who is yours? Andy?

1198
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: Just I got j t Okay, all right?

1199
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting thing a time on or tradition has yet

1200
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: to happen. What Wyndow Clark has yet to w D

1201
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,440
Speaker 2: from the post, the post.

1202
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 3: That he was doing the rounds, he's doing all the

1203
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 3: New York morning shows and the whole deal Greape Flow

1204
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: and no doubt the last few nights. I mean you shouldn't.

1205
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: You should absolutely w D. Right, Rory's not playing. Should

1206
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: know Rory's Roy's absent. We knew that last week.

1207
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: I believe if he does w D, I think Sedarsian

1208
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 5: is the first ault. So for the sake of everybody,

1209
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 5: I think against the Darsian to bat it around TVC

1210
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 5: River Highlands could be a good time.

1211
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 3: That'd be great. Get him out.

1212
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: Uh, I saw, I saw just a clip he was.

1213
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: Wyndham went on, uh, pardon my take, and I saw

1214
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: p f t uh suggested that he should go by

1215
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: by his middle name Robert and more people would like him.

1216
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 3: It's a decent that's a decent suggestion. I like that.

1217
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Bobby Clark.

1218
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: Bobby Clark.

1219
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: Like the hockey player. Right.

1220
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 5: He also he also revealed that at one point Baker Mayfield,

1221
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 5: his ex girlfriend, cheated on him with Baker Mayfield was

1222
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 5: also a big reveal that has gone viral was more

1223
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: Windy Wendy Well.

1224
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: He had a tweet that said, I hate Baker Mayfield,

1225
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 2: and they asked, why.

1226
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: Do you know what? Probably not a story I'd tell

1227
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: on the most popular sports cast in the world. But

1228
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: to your point on some like interest, this is great

1229
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: fact to jew on. This is real stuff as opposed

1230
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: to just chewing on your wallet with half these guys

1231
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: when they talk. That's great, good story, all right, I

1232
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: don't know what's great? Yeah, yeah, them or Baker or

1233
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: anybody else involved. But do you think the peach this

1234
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: as an expert here?

1235
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Okay, boy, I have someone who's a resident of the

1236
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: area of the country that golf media is attempting to

1237
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: cancel all future tournaments to very cool. Do you think

1238
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: that the Long Islanders would have felt differently towards a

1239
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: Bobby Clark. I feel like they would have been like, oh,

1240
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: it's Bobby from the Bronx.

1241
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're going to go right into Bobby

1242
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 5: box a lot there. Yeah.

1243
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 4: I think I think we could. We could, We could

1244
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 4: have done a little more than with that.

1245
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 5: Probably could have gotten a definitely some home crown advantage there.

1246
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: Just do it now before we get to the women's

1247
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: PGA and everything else. Has Long Island lost the right

1248
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: to have a professional golf event, a men's professional golf event,

1249
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: be it a Major, a Ryder Cup, or a PGA tour.

1250
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 3: Maybe one of these New York events goes to Beth

1251
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 3: Page seems likely. I'm more partially Long Island people. I

1252
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: came home with sixty rolls from one of Long Island's

1253
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: best bakers that showed up at our event, just overflowing

1254
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 3: with rolls. Right now, have they lost the right to

1255
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: have an event? Aiman said, these people, or you people,

1256
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 3: don't deserve it. They've shown themselves out. I saw a

1257
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 3: sky Sports Jimmie Weirers. That is poisonous PG. I'll let

1258
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: you go first defend out.

1259
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, Aimin at least was on property

1260
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 5: and was there. He didn't stay for Sunday, but at

1261
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 5: least he was around. My problem was with the people

1262
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 5: who are just tweeting things, who were not even at

1263
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 5: the US Open, who just decide to spin these narratives

1264
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 5: however they want.

1265
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 4: No.

1266
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 5: I don't think that Long Island has lost the right

1267
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 5: to have golf events. And I think anybody comparing the

1268
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 5: Ryder Cup crowd to the crowd on Sunday Hinnacock is

1269
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 5: out of their minds.

1270
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 4: Those are not even in the same ballpark.

1271
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 3: I think there's a unique circumstances on Sunday and that

1272
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: might have occurred somewhere other than Long Island. We would

1273
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: have had that similar behavior. I think Long Island definitely

1274
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: it's more acute and more intense crowds. I quite frankly

1275
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: saw this happening at like twenty sixteen, and we'll go

1276
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: to Women's PGA here in a minute. We saw this

1277
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 3: having a Hazel team Ryder Cup. Like I as far

1278
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: as I note back that like I've seen crowds kind

1279
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: of be degrade.

1280
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say this would never happen in

1281
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: the Midwest, an area of the country this devoid or

1282
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: completely completely void of major championships.

1283
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 3: I mean it would though it would happen in Detroit, it.

1284
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: Wouldn't happen in a great city like Chicago or Cleveland.

1285
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: You're making a lot of declarative statements right now ahead

1286
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Speaker 5: of the Pea Cup.

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Speaker 4: You don't know what the Peacup crowd has all.

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01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: I think I've been talking to the international side about

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,879
Speaker 2: strategies for charm offensive.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know you have, But is that going

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 5: to work when when the chips are down maybe on

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Speaker 5: Saturday afternoon, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think Goes Chicagoans are are ready to hop on

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Speaker 2: the international team permanently.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, you know the haughty Europeans

1296
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 3: over there, it happens over there too. Just what about

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: Brian Harmon. Brian Harmon Scotty said he was getting it

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 3: at Port Rush. I remember when they yelled in Tiger's

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: backswing at Carnoustie in eighteen. Yeah, they're not as vile

1300
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: maybe as the Long Islanders. I just I think I'm

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: speaking from the American side. I've seen it been happening.

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 3: I've seen it happening in several different locations outside Long Island.

1303
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: I think One Island takes it to a particularly intense

1304
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 3: level and acute level. And Sunday was an odd cocktail

1305
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: of circumstances that made made you want to root for intrigue,

1306
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 3: made you want to root against window. So anyways, but

1307
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 3: good for the take business, good for the take industry,

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 3: the great great take industry.

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't we said all week, you know,

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01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 5: with the course set up stuff, a lot of takes

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01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 5: from people who weren't at the course seeing it in person.

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 5: More takes from people not at the course here at

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 5: in person. Yeah, thanks everybody, Way to go.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a case that we should host every

1315
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: tournament on Long Island. I agree, and thus we get

1316
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: to talk about how awful Long Island is every week.

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Speaker 3: Continue with our schedule for the week, we have the

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Speaker 3: Women's PGA Championship at Hazel Team National Golf Club, WHIPTI

1319
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 3: do twenty twenty five champions Minji Lee. Notables are Nelly

1320
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: Corda not going for the Super Slam, She's already won

1321
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: a women's PGA. The Super Slam options are at the

1322
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 3: Women's Open and the Avon which is naive spelled backwards.

1323
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 3: We have the Taku, Charlie Hall, Ronnie Yun, Lottie Woad,

1324
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: Hannah Green, Minji obviously defending say On Kim, so all

1325
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: everyone's showing up. This is, you know, women's major champion

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 3: one B two behind the women's US US Women's Open.

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Speaker 3: This is Golf Channel eleven to three on Thursday and Friday,

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 3: three to five on NBC Saturday, and then at one

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 3: o'clock finish on NBC on Sunday.

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01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: So this is the event of the week. I think,

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: you know, we're we're looking at can Neliicorda go three

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01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: for three on the year. This should be a huge

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01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: story and in all of sports.

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Speaker 3: It isn't. Right now.

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Speaker 2: I would also point out what we talked about ahead

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01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: of the of the US Women's Open, how the schedule

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: really worked, where you had the memorial playing early, the

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: women playing later. This is an example of where collaboration

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01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: has to happen. The tour announces this huge news like

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: if you if you live in a world where you

1341
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: think like all aspects of the game can grow together, right,

1342
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: the tour announces it's huge news. It has a signature,

1343
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: one of their signature events playing in the exact same

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: time slot as a women's major. And that, just like frankly,

1345
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: is going to divide audiences. And you know, I'm not

1346
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: saying which audience, which event you should choose or what.

1347
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: You know, how you spend your weekend watching golf should

1348
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: be one way or the other. But naturally the golf

1349
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: fans in the world have to choose, and they're going

1350
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: to pick one or the other. And you know it's

1351
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: going to suppress both rings, both ratings and audiences.

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of hazeltine over the last fifteen

1353
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: to twenty years. But we're back Women's PGA Championship. We'll

1354
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,520
Speaker 3: have Megan matthew On probably discuss the final, how that proceeds.

1355
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: Over the next week. Elsewhere, we have a Good Good

1356
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 3: Golf Tour at the West Point Golf Club. Why is

1357
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: this so on schedule for the week. It's a new

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 3: event on Golf Channel Wednesday night. I don't know the

1359
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,480
Speaker 3: Good Good Golf Tour, but the Champions Golf Tour, the influencer,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess it's on Golf.

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: N in our schedule of the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just reading it off like Anchorman, PGA Tour Champions,

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: Dick's Open and got listed York. I can't go to

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Speaker 3: either the twenty twenty five champion with Steve Allen. Couldn't

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 3: pick him out of a lineup, but I know he

1366
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 3: won it on Hell Cabrera, kJ Choy, Padrick Harrington from

1367
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 3: Shinnacock up to Endicott, Bernhard, Rory Sabatini. So at least

1368
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 3: one Rory's playing this week. Steve Stricker and David Toms.

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: This is on tape to Lay nine to eleven PM

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Speaker 3: on Friday.

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Speaker 2: I remember last year watching this late night. The broadcast

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01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: is like it feels like you're watching like a nineteen

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: ninety five golf broadcast.

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Speaker 3: If you if you're into that kind of thing. Saturday,

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 3: the Saturday TV window is one hour. I would say,

1376
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 3: like why even do it five to six pm? Like

1377
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 3: watch two and a half holes, three holes?

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01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: Know what this is?

1379
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: What is that?

1380
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: This is another example of Blockie disrespect.

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Speaker 3: Sunday four to six.

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Speaker 4: What if he wins?

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: This is not a non zero chance he's been Yeah,

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: it's certainly possible. He's fifty hits it far hits it

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: decently far for some of these guys.

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01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: Shouldn't he be playing the good Good tour?

1387
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah it's good. Well you apparently didn't get renewed, right PJ.

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01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 5: Yes, Blockie is currently I'm seeing thirty three to one,

1389
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 5: same odds as Zori Sabatini, Steve Strick or Wye Yang

1390
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 5: and Jason Karen. Better ads than Bernie bo van Pelt,

1391
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 5: kJ Choi, among others.

1392
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Speaker 3: No free ads, but who's who's listing champions to odds?

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Speaker 4: Where you saying that, I'm just seeing this on odds checker.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what this is.

1395
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Speaker 3: Any block details You're gonna leave those for fres I have.

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Speaker 4: I already have a few.

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: All right, great, that don't start till Friday night on

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: TV and then on the DP World just just send

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Speaker 2: an electric text our text chain.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we can run with people like that. Hmm. Interesting,

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 3: that's a lot.

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01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Of Lebron Lebron adjacent Okay, on the DP World tour,

1403
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: which what are we calling that now?

1404
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: The feeder to the feeder to the Feeder tour. I mean,

1405
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: it's it's an interesting The strategic lines got sighted on

1406
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 3: a few occasions. We'll see where they fit into the

1407
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: whole puzzle of professional golf. We have the Italian Open,

1408
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: a great National Open at golf to Reno Golf Club

1409
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: and to Reno, the defending champ is Adrian Sattier. By

1410
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 3: A Staire is playing coming over from Live, Brandon Grace

1411
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: is a notable, the Southern Guardsman, the Molinari's Joaquin Neeman

1412
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: fresh from Shinniakock. So you're getting you know, Live is

1413
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: off for these forty five days or whatever it is.

1414
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: You're gonna see some guys play the DP World Tour.

1415
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 3: I believe Ryan Palmer the tugboat is in there, Pat

1416
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 3: Reid is back, David Pooge, a lot of Live guys,

1417
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: some PGA Tour sort of cast offs, and then your

1418
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: DP World Tour notables. That's your Italian Open, that's coffee golf,

1419
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 3: someven to ten am with a eleven am finish on

1420
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: Sunday at National Open. What you make of Rory having

1421
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: an issue like a singular or not having to issuing

1422
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Speaker 3: a statement yesterday, I thought that was interesting. We had

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Speaker 3: he was the only player that came out. Tiger, of course,

1424
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 3: gave his interview or his intro. Rory came out and said,

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01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 3: you know, this is great for the fans, and the

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Speaker 3: tour released it, and Rory, I think the tour released

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Speaker 3: on behalf of Rory.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was such a central figure

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: of this whole setup and where it got to that

1430
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 2: it was it was, it was good. How about Tiger

1431
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: just you know, just getting rolled out there for the

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01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: for the intro.

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Speaker 3: I mean I did. I was asked to a little

1434
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 3: social videos like how often is Tiger's first appearance since rehab?

1435
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: Like the fifteenth story. He just kind of came, was

1436
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 3: not going to take questions, knew that wasn't happening, and said, hello,

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: I think it was important probably for the tour to

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01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: have him there, hopefully important for him. Hopefully he feels

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: some clarity and purpose, and that was part of it.

1440
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: I thought the royal statement might have been a little

1441
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: have something to do with this comments from last week

1442
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: and and sort of you know, trying to put his

1443
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 3: flag in the ground of this is how I really feel.

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01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: This is great and I mean.

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01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 2: That's the uh. I mean what he said is so

1446
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: true though last week about it being glorified corn fairy.

1447
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: It is it's a better version of the corn Fairy,

1448
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: is what it is. Yeah, in a more select PGA tour.

1449
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: I agree. He also said maybe the old way was fine.

1450
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 3: I think that was part. Maybe they were like, I

1451
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: don't know, I think he's probably happy with the new

1452
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see. It was he's reaching like Arnold

1453
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Palmer levels. If you're you have the tours releasing a

1454
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: statement from singular voices, right, you know they're not doing

1455
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: that for too many people. I thought it was interesting

1456
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: that he got his own statement of support, and Tiger

1457
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: you know, obviously did the intro, So all right, that

1458
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: does it big? One question?

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: I got a question, Peach, how does it feel that

1460
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 2: PCA roll into your town and just keep keep the

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: train rolling.

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01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 5: How does it feel to be the first guy ever

1463
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 5: thrown out taking second base on a walk? I mean,

1464
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 5: that's it's kind of incredible.

1465
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 3: What happened to.

1466
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

1467
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Speaker 5: He was stealing second on a three to two on

1468
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 5: a three to two pitch, so he slid through the

1469
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 5: base and they said he because he touched the base

1470
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 5: and then he came off the base.

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Speaker 4: He was then out.

1472
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: Sounds like my son's you know team.

1473
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 5: Because even though he was given the base, he ran

1474
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 5: through the base and then he was out.

1475
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 3: So it's a new play, new new Yeah.

1476
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 5: I'd never seen it before, but there you go, PC

1477
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 5: and making history.

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01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: Interesting. I thought he like got walked and rounded first

1479
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 3: and started running for second or something. Okay, that's interesting.

1480
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: I love that. But he's he's hitting Homer's that's the

1481
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: point I think.

1482
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he.

1483
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 5: Hit off a Code Senga like everybody. Everybody can do that.

1484
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 5: Go go, give, give, give every player in the league

1485
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 5: a chance.

1486
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Seems like he's just moving up the ranks of the

1487
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: best baseball players.

1488
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't think no podcasts, including Cubs Baseball or any

1489
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 3: other genre, talks about PCA more than this golf podcast.

1490
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't think just a lightning rod. Justin's just been

1491
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: amazed by PCA. He's not real pacese basically every day

1492
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: is Homer.

1493
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 3: All right? This does it beefy Wednesday episode, But a

1494
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 3: lot of beefy news coming out. Uh, we're gonna have

1495
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: some lunch with the boys. Pj's got some lunch with

1496
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 3: the boys. Guess maybe a major champion right now?

1497
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, we were tangentially prepped. So I gotta go

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Speaker 5: edit this. Get this into feeds and then and then

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Speaker 5: do some interviews.

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Speaker 3: All right, check out the pro Shop for red, white

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Speaker 3: and blue stuff. Mob Jack uh. Look be on the

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Speaker 3: lookout for those Lunch with the boys coming this week.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you on Friday, m h