1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: My next guest who's has been holding patiently. I want 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: to thank her. She is, like I said earlier, graduate 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: of Spellman. She's an advice also the vice president of 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Television that twenty one Laps Entertainment. Her name is Paige Simpson. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: She has works diligent to create an amazing, diverse and 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: bingeable content for Netflix. If you know Netflix, that term 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: bingeable is the term they created as part of the 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: production company Overall tell ushipon deal which the streaming giant 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: twin one lapses, the brain tile of director producer Sean 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Levy and the best known for Stranger Things, Arrival, Not 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: at the Museum, Free Guy, and more. Page expertise and 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: talented television development allowed her to create a significant career 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: path and work with pa House Brands Please work with 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Paige Simpson. How you doing, Paige? Well, 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: how about yourself? Well, first of all, thank you for 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: holding on that area. I wanted to definitely get that 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: information out about it's it's it's really amazing because of 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you see this global presence that's coming 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: about and going to HBCUs and I just want to 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: let people know that it's sometimes people can have a 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: thought process tied an hbc but you're a graduate of 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: an HBCU. Tell us about your experience, tell us about 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: what what? Because I know so many Spellman graduates in 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: the Hollywood community. Has that been an asset to you? Um? 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: They have. I absolutely love Stalming College and they they've 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: done right by me. Um. So I hope that I 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: do right by them, um and continue to give back. 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: But yes, I think are Our community is very strong 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: in l A. And it's not just Stomen but it's 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: really like the entire HBCU community. We you know, connect 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: on personal levels and professional levels, and you know, are 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: really helpful towards each other. Though it's Howard Hampton Seleman 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: more House. Um, we're really collaborative, which is great. Well, 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, I always talk about we can talk about now, 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: but I always like to find how how did we 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: get to now? How did we get to the be 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: the vice president of television A twenty one laughs, entertainment. 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: There's a journey. So you're graduate of Spellman College. What 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: was your degree? Plan? Um, my degree is in biology. 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's studio. My degrees in mathematics, by the way, So don't. 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: You're not throwing me off. Okay, you're not gonn throwing 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: me miss. Miss biologists. Okay, you're talking to a mathematician here. Okay. 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: So so you a biologist, Okay, you graduated with that degree. 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: What made the shift? Did you come out of college, 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: did you teach, did you do research? What happened? You know? 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I came out and I was studying for the impat 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: and shadowing female physitions of color while I was in Atlanta, 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: and I wanted to do emergency in medicine. But one 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: thing that I didn't realize. I guess in hindsight it's 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: it's laughable, but I didn't realize that patients would die 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: on me um that I would need to emotionally have 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: to be able to deal with that. And so while 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I was shadowing physicians, that of course was happening, and 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't emotionally ready, and I knew that that was 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to continue doing for the 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: rest of my life. So coming out Sellman, I was like, 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do with this degree, 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: but I love medicine. I love helping people, and so 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe I can go get my g R E and 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: work for like the World Health Organization, for the u 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: N and making sure that everybody gets people health care. 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: So coming out of Pelm and that was my goal 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: was to like study for the gr E, take the test, 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: and go to grad school. Um that you know. During 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the course of that, I came back home to l A. 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: And my mom's told me I always had to use 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: my college degree. So I was tutoring math and science, um, 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: two kids whose parents were in the industry. And so 69 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: I was overhearing conversations from producers and directors and actors 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and really started to kind of get the bugs. And 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: so I went into casting. I worked for a Tracy 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Twinkie Bird and Michelle Adams and we cast its Fruit 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Bale station. Um. And that's what I met or what occurred. 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: That's the Michael B. Jordan's breakout movie. Correcting Ryan Coogler. 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Correct Ryan Coogler is the director and Black Panther If 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: anybody does not know, that's one of his uh kind 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: of like small claims to fame litther you know this 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: little one and Michael B. Jordan if you don't know him, Okay, 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: we can just continue this conversation with another day. But 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: again you know, just all I'm just saying the page, 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: throw out your flowers. Now these are you know you 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: say you know you can actually lad with that? Now 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: you know you could have lad with you know Ryan Coogler, 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: you know I work with him and Bachael B. Jordan, 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: I work with him. You know, do do you need 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: me to be your pr person? That's that. But continue 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: with the story because that's fantastic because you know, you 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: never know working with individuals, how they can transcend the world. 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: You know, because these are you know, Michael not only 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: is a brilliant act and also an advocate of HBCUs, 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: but also also uh producer of television projects. I think 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: he's directing Create three, uh that's coming out and that 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: and Create two. I think Create one was done by 94 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Ryan Crew Coogler, which really brought that whole franchise back 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: to life when he as a young man, I think 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: he was under thirty when he went up to Sylvester 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Sloan and convinced Sylvester's alone that that this African American 98 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: can re re re energize his whole brand. And it's 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: taking off of that and not three Crew three movies later, 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: we have this whole franchise. So but that's that. But 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: those are the people that you are around. So you 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: have to have a certain skill set, a certain vision 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: to maintain a relationship in the room with these people. Correct, Yes, 104 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I think so. UM. I think it's about having a 105 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: point of view, which I think I learned from seven uh. 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: But also knowing yourself and having confidence um, and the 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: support system like you mentioned earlier, like in terms of 108 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: feeling like I am meant to be in the room 109 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and supposed to be there. That comes from you know, 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: years at Spellman. Wow. Now when you when you did 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: the that that particular project, did you because it really 112 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: was a movie that received a lot of our awards. 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: It was it was like they said, a low budget project. 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: When I said low budget, I'm not saying that in 115 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: a negative manner, I should say used to were independent. 116 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: It was an independent production. Uh. And and so where 117 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: did you go from there? So? From there I went 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: to uh be an executive sistant show Time in original programming, 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: So I worked on projects like The Affair, Masters of Sex, Billions, um. 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: And then from there I went to manage will Packers 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: TV department. We'll be right back with more money making 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to 123 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. I love 124 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: speaking to individuals like Paige Simpson because they they're so 125 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: talented in the sense that that their gifts UM can, 126 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: how they commune, how they create relationships, and they just 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: go to one great project out the one great project 128 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: and they teamed amt Okay, you know you were tied 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to that. So I believe that some things that you 130 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: did has something to do with the success. Now you 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: over Will Packer. Will Packer is very successful. How did 132 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: the relationship come about? Um? So, I was at show 133 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: time and I really wanted to grow and use what 134 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I had learned at show time in terms of elevated 135 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: storytelling UM for people of color, and so I wanted 136 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: to work with somebody who had done it on a 137 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: different scale. Right, Like you mentioned, Will Packer a king 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: of the box office, and I think that he's been 139 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: able to capture our audience and our story very well 140 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: in the future world, and so I was interested in 141 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: helping him relay that success on the feature side to 142 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: t V UM. So I connected with a friend who 143 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: was a Morehouse graduate and Will Hacker was looking for 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: a manager of TV and he sent my resume to 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: to Will and I had a conversation which had a meeting. 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: Um I let him know that what I wanted to 147 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: do and what kind of projects I wanted to bring 148 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: over in terms of you know, like I mentioned that 149 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: elevated content that is inclusive of people of color and 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: just really being authentically true to our experience. And she 151 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, I dig it, let's do it. So I 152 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: dig it, Let's do it. That's all I dig it, 153 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Let's do it. I laughed, because it's that story is 154 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: so simple. It seems like, Okay, let's go. What do 155 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: page just doing it? Why can I do it? But 156 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: along the way, I hear relationships. I hear people who 157 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: are are willing to go through the process to work hard. 158 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: I hear the I had the process of you know, 159 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: not being tied to your to to the course of 160 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: what people say you should be your degrees in biology. 161 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: So certain people say, what are you doing over here? 162 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: When people say that to you, when because you have 163 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: been told along the way, as I have been told, 164 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: people have questioned your decision making. Some people have said, 165 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: why are you going over the whelpack you over is 166 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: your time? What do you say when people confront you 167 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: with this thing, even though it may be people that 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: care about you? Um? Yeah, I heard out a lot. 169 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think I've set it to myself a 170 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: few times, like what if I do it, are they 171 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: going to know? Like that imposter syndrome here? Um? But 172 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I think that when when they say that, I just 173 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith in God, so I 174 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: just let him order my steps. Um. But I also 175 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: come prepared right with knowledge. And I did a lot 176 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: of research and reading, like read a lot of books, 177 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: read a lot of scripts, watched a lot of TV, 178 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of bad TV good TV features, like did 179 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: my own kind of master class before I said this 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: is something that I want to do, and I think, Um, 181 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I also wrote scripts and I think that in order 182 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: to give feedback on projects, kind of have to understand 183 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the process that writers have to go through. So I 184 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: did that self, um, and it was hard, and so 185 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I had a whole new outlook on writers and their 186 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: experience in their process. Um. And I just brought all 187 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: of those things to the table and I am very 188 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: clear on what I can do and what I can 189 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: bring to the people and where I have room for 190 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: improvement and growth. And I think it is that that 191 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: honesty of being able to feel comfortable in the unknown 192 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: that has allowed me to sit in rooms where I 193 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: have been you know, became knowledgeable about certain things. Wow, 194 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: I have a young a young producer. His name is Johnny. 195 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: He will to be a writer, and uh, you know me, 196 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm fortunately for me. I've I'm one of the 197 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: voters on the several of the award platforms, and so 198 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm able to get these scripts and get it to 199 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: him if you were to give advice to him, being 200 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: a guy who who has this creativity, who was always 201 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: asking me because he's always seeking advice. Because I'm sure's 202 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people like him out there just listening 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: to this show right now. Because you have stepped to 204 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: a level you actually read scripts to that submitted to you, 205 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're looking for, you and how 206 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: that process works for a young writer or some some 207 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: person trying to aspire to submit information to a person 208 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: like you. What do you look for? Um? So what 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: I look for? Uh? I am character first, So I 210 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: fall in love with a character and will follow them 211 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: on a journey through anything. I'm not a huge horror girl. 212 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a huge comedy person per se um, 213 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: but I am a big heart person. So I want 214 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: to know who your character is, what journey I'm going 215 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: to follow them on, where are they coming from, what 216 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: are the obstacles that they are going to be facing? Uh? 217 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: And I love the twist and turns. I think authentic 218 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: storytelling is showing the flaws of characters. So I love 219 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: reading scripts where women or people in general are behaving 220 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: badly and enjoying it right like, I think there is 221 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: something real and authentic and raw about that emotion. Um. 222 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: And I think the the struggle for a lot of 223 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: writers and scripts that I've read is dialogue. Dialogue is 224 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: very difficult for writers because it's just you sitting in 225 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: front of your computer seemingly talking to yourself. Um. But 226 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I really, you know, specify your characters and give them 227 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: unique tone and a unique point of view and an 228 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: unique voice. Then you can junct suppose them to other 229 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: characters and the dialogue will seem seamless. But sometimes you 230 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: have to step away from your computer go do something else, 231 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: um that is completely outside of the creative and come 232 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: back because at sometimes I read script and it's like 233 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: this character sounds just like the five other characters in 234 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: the script. Uh. And it's literally because the writer is 235 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: just by themselves talking in their head, and in their 236 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: head they hear something different and the different tone, but 237 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: it's not really coming off on the page. You know. 238 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: That's why I love reading people's bio because when you 239 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: read bios, they always leave our little nuggets, little nuggets. 240 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: If we should be talking about first previous roles with 241 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: of course, we already talked about showtime, we talked about 242 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: will pack of medias, didn't mention scrap paper pictures? And 243 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: then and then remember I had to bring up Ryan Coogler. 244 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: How to bring up Michael Jordan bringing it up? Now, 245 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I gotta bring up Academy Award winning actress Viola Davis. Yeah, 246 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I love me. Um. Biol is amazing. 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: And that was that was a job right after I 248 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: came back. Um. That was actually before Fruit mail Station, 249 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Like all of the days just kind of combined. Um, 250 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: I think that was before Fruveilum. She was looking for 251 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: a nanny and I was looking for a job, right, Um, 252 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: so I applied through the agency that I worked with 253 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: that was placing me as a tutor. Uh. And I 254 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: got the job and worked with her for almost two years. 255 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: And her daughter and her husband. Everybody is Mr t 256 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: that's her husband, Mr Tennis. Yeah realis Tennon Yeah? Um great, 257 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: And they had just started their production company. So I 258 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: was able to really combine a lot of the passions 259 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: that I had and like, it's really interesting to start 260 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: in a job where there's not a lot of pressure. 261 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: So I was able to enjoy it, right, Like, I like, 262 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: reading scripts wasn't my job. It was something that I 263 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: could do if they needed help with it. I could 264 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: read and my thoughts. Talked to Viola and Julius about it, 265 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: and there was no real pressure applied to whether my 266 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: opinion was So let me hear this straight. So this 267 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: is the beauty of this conversation. So okay, let's go back. 268 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Spellman graduate, you know, realized that she didn't like people 269 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: dying on her, so she didn't want to be a doctor. Okay, 270 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: So she realized that that wasn't a lane. Then she 271 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: working for Bila Davis, but tutoring. But then she's doing 272 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: she's reading scripts, and scripts can be like a hundred 273 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: hundred fifty pages, but even longer, so it's not it's 274 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: not easy work. Now I'm just let you know. And 275 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: then she's she's in a mature manner, starting to have 276 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: an opinion. But you learned the structure because you learned 277 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: with top people here, because Mr Tennant, they got the 278 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: production I believe ju v I think that's the name 279 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: of the production company. And Viola Davis. We all know 280 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Viler Davison. Every time she actually go Okay, she got disawarded. 281 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: She's probably gonna get nominated for this movie that she 282 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: had out this year because I saw and I thought 283 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: it was it was an incredible acting performance on her part. 284 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: But when you look at the whole process of what 285 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to what I'm trying to say to everybody 286 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: is dead. Sometimes you're in a position where that's not 287 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: your job. But if you see an opportunity to do 288 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: something to extend your talents or so people your gifts, 289 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: but it may not be tied to a check, do 290 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: it anyway. And that's what you were doing, correct, page, 291 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: that's correct. Now, in the process of doing that, when 292 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: did you realize I could do this? Um? When did 293 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I realize you know. It was I was working with 294 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Will and we had two projects that we're going to 295 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: be in production, and Will was like, hey, I need 296 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: you to go cover set. And I was like, what 297 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: I have been to visit that. I've never been in 298 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: charge of the set, so what do you mean you 299 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: need me? I'm like, are you gonna be there? Like 300 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: what could happen? And He's like, no, just you. I 301 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: trust you. I trust your instincts, like go handle it. 302 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what that means, 303 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: but okay, um. And I was on set and I 304 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: think that you know something that you mentioned in terms 305 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: of putting like having people around me. I trusted the 306 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: people that were that had been doing the job for 307 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: twenty plus years or longer that I had, and really 308 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: just asked them like, well what would you do? And 309 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: like how can I support you? And what do you 310 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: need to do your job to the best? You got 311 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: all the right statements, bore, what can I do to 312 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: support you? Oh you're you're good, You're good. Page. If 313 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: you make statements like that, people oh okay, she's not 314 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: here to brow me. She's not here to make me 315 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: look bad, which is important. How you communicate with people, 316 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: especially when you were when you're fresh faced and a 317 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: young face by the way, yes, a young black woman 318 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: who's coming to set with you know, people who have 319 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: been doing it for a very long time, and they 320 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: will let you know. Um, so you just have to 321 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: let them know, like I come in peace and we 322 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: both have the same you know, goals in mind. And 323 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: so I think once I realized that I can communicate 324 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: that way, people started to let their guard down and 325 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: I started to learn so much more and grow as 326 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: an executive and as a person. And I think thanks 327 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: to Will. I always joked to him about like you 328 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: threw me in the deep end, and he was like, 329 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: and you swam so but yeah, I think that's when 330 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: I learned that I could that I can actually do this. Wow, 331 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: that's a fantastic I'm speaking to the vice president of 332 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: Television Laps Entertainment, vice president of president of One Laps Entertainment. 333 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: That's that says a lot by the production company. That 334 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: is one of the one of the most UH revered 335 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: UH in a very positive way of production, comp especially 336 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: with Stranger Things. Stranger Things, if you're not familiar with 337 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: that's a Netflix series that every time it comes out. 338 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: It breaks tons of records. And when you when you 339 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: came on board with Tween one laps, were there anything 340 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: Because you talk about diversity, when you talk about just 341 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the first diversity than the type of scripts you do, 342 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: are you trying to bring more diverse talent to the 343 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: scripts that you engage with? You know everything, I think 344 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: it comes from the initial idea, comes from the initial 345 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I P. So we're bringing in books from writers from 346 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, the diaspora, or being in books from writers 347 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: who this is their first time. We're bringing in scripts 348 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: and partnering with production companies like for instance, Marceint Martin's 349 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: production company um Genius. We have a project with them 350 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: that we're working on. I'm so less and lucky to 351 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: be working with one of my mentors being a gang 352 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: from you know, from fruit Vale on a project right now. 353 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: So I think we're really working on building a strong 354 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: diverse team that can help with scripts and projects from 355 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: the initial idea and then of course casting, but also 356 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: crewing up uh and and the post process, and hoping 357 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: that we can just keep continuing to push all these 358 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: divers stories forward. We'll be right back with more money 359 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to 360 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Usually want to 361 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: end my interviews. Always always say things like, tell us 362 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: how you can stay we can stay in touch with you. Nope, 363 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: we can't do that with you. Well we can talk 364 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: about is your future projects. You're you're an amazing resume 365 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: after this point, but it also leads to the fact 366 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: that you're doing new productions and you have a production. 367 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: What my favorite actors who I discovered on Netflix on 368 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: mar side, which is the looping actor that that series 369 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: that the first run captivated me and then and they 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: came back with the second act series and he recently, 371 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: if you don't know on my side, he was in 372 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park, the new movie he's also starring as well. 373 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: Tell us about this current project and what attracts you 374 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: to this type of project, give us some background on 375 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: it before you get into it. Yeah, so this is 376 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: a project, um that I was attracted to you from 377 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the initial seat of the idea. UM, there was a 378 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: book going around called African Samurai by Craig Street, and UM, 379 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: one of my friends was like, have you read this book? 380 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: It's so good? It feels like it's up your alley 381 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: and I's like, no, I haven't send it to me. 382 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: Um twenty pages in, I was like, I have to 383 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: have this book and I want to do this project. 384 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: And it is based on the true life story of Yaske, 385 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: who is Japan's first born born samurai who happens to 386 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: be of African descent. So and you know, takes our 387 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: our story and plops it down in Japan, which is 388 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: really cool. And my coworker Moura and I and I 389 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: are working on it together with Forest Whittaker and Nina Yang. Uh. 390 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Nick Jones Jr. Is our writer. He wrote Uh Yasa 391 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Animation for Netflix, and like you said, Omar is on 392 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, signed on to produce as well as star 393 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: in our our leading role. So we're very excited about 394 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: about the potential of this one. It is a it's 395 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: a limited series kind of tracking Yasay's journey from you know, 396 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: landing in Japan to becoming a samurai. Now I heard 397 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: the word animation. This is live action animation, so our 398 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: version is live action. But Nick has also produced the 399 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: animation that is on Netflix right now. Okay cool. Now 400 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: you know she threw out another name, so I always 401 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: get on her. You know, she just threw our warts 402 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: whitaker like it was another name that just slips out 403 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: of her mouth, you know. So so again you know, 404 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: no biggie, no biggie, no biggie page. You might were cool, 405 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: we cool. I'll just let you know, you know, you 406 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: may be in another stratosphere above Rochean, you know, because 407 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: you just throw out these names, you know, and they 408 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: there's no biggie, no baby, no big good. But again, 409 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: when you work on these projects, the main question I 410 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: gotta ask you pages that you know, you say a 411 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: book was just circulating out there, you know, and how 412 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: does one game control? I know you with one laps, 413 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: but how does one gain control of a book? Do 414 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: you have to put down fees? You have to put 415 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: that hold in it. I hope I'm not asking too 416 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: much in details, I'm not asking them out, but how 417 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: does one gain control of a book? And then what 418 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: do you say the game control of the book? Because 419 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a competitive market out there, because like I 420 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: said that, the idea sounds incredible, and then you said, 421 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: why hadn't had why it has not done? M hm um? 422 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: So how do we gain control, So it is having 423 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: a conversation with the author, right, So Crage reads, myself 424 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and my coworker Moira and I Sad had a conversation 425 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: about the book. I mean had multiple conversations with other people, 426 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: and you're you know you ask like kind of how 427 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: you went it over and I think it's it's passion 428 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: and h clear direction on like what you want to 429 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: do with the project, so learning to pull out what 430 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: really makes this special and what you feel like you 431 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: can bring to the table. But also like we have 432 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: an overall do on Netflix, so netflixs aren't only buyer. 433 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Um so, being very clear that like this project has 434 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: to live on Netflix, and there are certain like you 435 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: mentioned binge able, there's certain things that need to happen 436 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: in a series where it to feel like a series. 437 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: And one of those is that that binge able quality 438 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: is like I can't stop why team that I have 439 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: to continue the entire series tonight as soon as it drops. 440 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Um So, I think Craig really the Craig sorry, really 441 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: understood our passion for it, and then we connected with 442 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: our Netflix executives against it. We have an overall deal. 443 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily option the material. Netflix will option it 444 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: for us, and we you know, we express our passion 445 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: and our drive for it, but we explain to them 446 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: creatively what we want to do with the property because 447 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: straight adaptations like we've seen just don't work. Like you 448 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: need to have a clear point of view on how 449 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: you're going to adapt a book to screen. So we 450 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: put together that and then um, we just so happened 451 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: to have a general meetings that with Nick Jones Jr. 452 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: And we were talking to him about his animation Yas game. 453 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: We were like, you know, we love to do a 454 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: live action version, um that is based on this book 455 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: that we just read. And he's like, oh, well, crazy, 456 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: I've been talking to Mina Yang and Forest Whittaker about 457 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: doing just that. And we were like, okay, well should 458 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: we partner um? And he was like, yeah, let me 459 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: talk to Nina and and we'll get back to you guys. 460 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: And so we hopped on the phone with Nina and 461 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Nick and you know, talked collectively about our creative vision 462 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: for it, and we were alive and you know, that's 463 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: how that's how it happens. Wow, sounds fantastic. You know, 464 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: the most amazing part of my interview with you is 465 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: that you are a real person. You're a person who 466 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: has strong sensibilities, a person who who doesn't shy away 467 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: from being different. When I say very different, meaning that 468 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: you know their their path of expectations, specially for people 469 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: of color, that we are supposed to do certain things, 470 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: we're supposed to guard on a path. And I always 471 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: admire what is going on and what is happening in 472 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Netflix and just get a quick back story because we 473 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: have two minutes left in this. In this, in this, 474 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: you know when you when in African American you're producing movies, 475 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: producing television shows, the US slay the Hollywood community has 476 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: always said that people beyond the US don't really care 477 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: about our content. And what Netflix did was when it premiers, 478 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: it premiers a project in a hundred and ninety countries, 479 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: and when in January Tyler Perry dropped his movie on 480 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Netflix and it was I think it's like a twenty 481 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: seven million views the first week and set records and 482 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: things like that. It really opened different body's eyes that 483 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: outside of this country, that's not true because he was 484 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: number one in all these different countries, a Tyler Prayry 485 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movie. And when I look at what you're doing. 486 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I like to say to you pages thank you because 487 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: by having a strong voice, by having a commitment and 488 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: a creative vision, to be able to work with different people, 489 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: and to be able to allow us to be able 490 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: to be in a position, a decision making position is 491 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: very important and I don't want you ever to not 492 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: realize how significant you are, not only to the creative community, 493 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: but also to the black community. Thank you well, thank 494 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: you for coming to my show. Spell mc grad Keep 495 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: doing your things, you know, and keep you know. Next 496 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: time I bring on the show, We're gonna We're gonna 497 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have all those names that you left out, 498 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: the Ryan Coogler, the Jordan, the Park Whinnakers, the Bill 499 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: of David Will Packers, all that stuff is gonna be 500 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: in your credits, so everybody knows who I'm talking to. 501 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Oh money make comes with this masterclass. Thanks for coming 502 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: on my show. Okay, alright, thank you. Oh we talked 503 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: very very soon. I appreciate you. You're a very very 504 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: special Bye bye.