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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories, done.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, Yay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Messed Up an SVU podcast. I'm Liza Traeger and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kara Klank.

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<v Speaker 1>And in case you were paging through Apple podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>saw a podcasts called That's Messed Up and thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just about the world right now, No, we are

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<v Speaker 1>about Law and Order SVU and true crime and interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>people from the show. But before that we do talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how fucked well and.

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<v Speaker 4>Well the world is so fucked up. Thank god. We

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<v Speaker 4>have Heated Rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that everyone listening that's a consistent listener

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<v Speaker 2>knows that I gave you a week to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing and you did watch half, which I did

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<v Speaker 2>watch half, which is like pretty hard for everyone. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have a full psychosis. I have actually not watched

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<v Speaker 2>anything else except a SVU and Heated Rivalry. And I

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<v Speaker 2>try to put on Peacock and I can't. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>I want to watch. I It's all on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so I went to a heated Rivalry Challenger

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<v Speaker 2>Soul cycle ride and it was incredible. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>got wasted at the airport. I'm in my getting drunk

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<v Speaker 2>at airports, Earrah. But then so Monday was sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night was a Taylor Swift heated Rivalry class sign

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<v Speaker 2>ups open at noon. It was fully sold out at

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<v Speaker 2>twelve oh two. Like, people are like on the verge.

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<v Speaker 2>But my niece likes it too, so that's been fun.

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<v Speaker 2>She finally is texting me, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the thrill. Okay, we got a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's so much Soviet stuff in it for us, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, more and more, but like he's just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more I watch it, the more it's like

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<v Speaker 2>these little interstitial moments and characterizations and I'm just like

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<v Speaker 2>so impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>So you've watched three episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I watched the first three. I'm so into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very horny for the storylines and the guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>my friend actually, who follows you, texted me and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you watching it? Blah blah blah, and I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa's obsessed.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm watching it. I'm halfway through.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, yeah, I follow Lisa and I've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>she's liked every single Heated Rivalry post that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's just nothing else I want to do, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what else to say, Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It is what I else.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe there's only six episodes. That must have

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<v Speaker 1>been really difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>But also they're like the more and more I see

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<v Speaker 2>their press and them as people, it's like their performances

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<v Speaker 2>become more and more deeply impressive, Like I can't really

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<v Speaker 2>stop being impressed with these people. And then the more

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<v Speaker 2>I watch there's like just some of the shots are

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<v Speaker 2>so gorgeous, the wardrobe's incredible, the music.

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<v Speaker 4>Is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the Heat of Rivalry Spin Class was so good,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything, and it all came from such a like

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<v Speaker 2>pure place, yeah, of like low budget, fast work, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just it's I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Also what I'm thinking about is that people are like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just smut.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm like, you're acting like that's easy to make,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're acting like it's easy to be that hot

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<v Speaker 2>and sexy like, which is not easy, Like it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's weird too, when people try to reduce

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<v Speaker 2>it to something that is also still like quite impressive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw some like tweet then the world is horny,

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<v Speaker 2>countries are begging for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it. I heard something that was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the like the Republicans are so like hard

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<v Speaker 1>on to get like Dei Away and it's like Sinners

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<v Speaker 1>number one movie of the year, like box office wise,

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<v Speaker 1>Heated Rivalry everyone's obsession. And then there were like two

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<v Speaker 1>other examples of like it seems like people still want

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<v Speaker 1>the de I babes, like everyone's into this, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's cool that there's there's a show that has

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<v Speaker 1>like all this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even that graphic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really just like it's really it's the same amount

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<v Speaker 1>of romantic like sex that you see between How Toosexual

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's shot all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's done better than the most straight sex

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<v Speaker 2>scenes in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a huge fan. I like Jane Austen.

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<v Speaker 1>I like anything where two people like want to be

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<v Speaker 1>together and can't be like any of that is like

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<v Speaker 1>so horny. So this was like I love like how

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're both hockey players, but they're from totally separate

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<v Speaker 1>like worlds like the whole the guy poor Ilia's family

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<v Speaker 1>is like treating him like shit, like so Russian, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, assholes, and then like the other guy's family

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<v Speaker 1>like is obsessed with him, but like he's so much

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<v Speaker 1>more closeted and shy, like I don't know. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>was shocked episode three that it went into a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different storyline, but by the end of that storyline, I

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<v Speaker 1>was into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like that other storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't know where it goes in episode four,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm excited my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Would sat with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say four, Yeah, I message Kamail and Emily

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<v Speaker 2>immediately they'd ever hear from me. It's not like they're

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<v Speaker 2>my close personal friends. I m them and then I

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<v Speaker 2>saw they saw it and didn't respond, and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think that I'm going to be okay with

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<v Speaker 2>now getting a responsor out of your minds, I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, you better give me something, And I got

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<v Speaker 2>something from them, but they go, yeah, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>some information.

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<v Speaker 4>I go, you were the best.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the best table of the house, Like are

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<v Speaker 2>you kidding, like you were at the table to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got some info from and then I go, congrat.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell she gave me some info.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave me some inbo, but the info was like

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<v Speaker 1>that I could share as mostly that they just like

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they're having a great time. That's what she said,

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<v Speaker 1>that the egos, they're just good guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she said that they really do love each like

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell they're really friends. And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you could tell that too, and to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to like pull off what they did and like it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty it's it's really nuts. Yeah, it's really nuts. The more, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, like the change of him being a full

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<v Speaker 2>Russian dude. But I did see a post where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh am I in adheated rivalry and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a depressed bisexual with family trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was trying to be all like Russian and

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<v Speaker 2>moody at my parents' house, but they're too.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice to me. It really didn't translate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I was cracking up at the video

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<v Speaker 2>you your dad feeding the stray cat but with like

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<v Speaker 2>a full scratch glove on and you going no, like

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<v Speaker 2>just your voice in it, like your narration was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my mom truly repeating should I get the stick?

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<v Speaker 2>We should get the stick. We need to get the stick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, but then people were like, she's just feral.

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<v Speaker 2>They could like she could eventually they could have a bond.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe my dad is just like, you know, patient

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<v Speaker 2>and wanting it to me. I'm like, fuck this feral cat.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we're right, you know, like everyone was right,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta men. I mean they're feeding the cat. They're

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<v Speaker 2>feeding Yeah yeah, yeah, but what I'm trying to think, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I did end up geting the crop top.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to tell you. I got a

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<v Speaker 4>heated rivalry crop top.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I think that we need to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on cutting back and not cutting out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's unrealistic. Yeah, going to spend crop top.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm performing in Boston soon January thirtieth, January Weesday again,

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<v Speaker 2>January thirtieth, I'm performing at the Crystal Ball h this

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<v Speaker 2>is yeah, people will hear this before, right, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming on Tuesday. Yeah, absolutely, So I'm gonna wear my

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<v Speaker 2>Boston crop top for the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, for the fictional heated rivalry team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would never wear a Boston sports shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me also say that One of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't want to catch up is because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't remove on yet. But the reason why I did

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<v Speaker 1>not fully catch up is because I've been I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching The Traders, so I gave three hours to The Traders.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also have watched two movies because Award season

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<v Speaker 1>is upon us and I needed to start watching movies.

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<v Speaker 1>So I watched Pogonia yay, and last night I watched

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<v Speaker 1>Marty Supreme.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, tell me about Pegonia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've seen it, right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you like it?

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it a lot. I did not like the ending, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but up till the ending, I really liked it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's she's our Meryl Street. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's so good. She's such a good actress.

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<v Speaker 1>He was great. I mean, it's it's I liked it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I just I mean, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spoil it. It's still out or whatever for people to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really liked the ending. I liked the ending.

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<v Speaker 1>It was chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk to someone whose kid got a panic attack

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<v Speaker 2>at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God at the theater. Yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like the ending. I thought that it was

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<v Speaker 1>like and I've talked to a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing. They really liked it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the ending. I thought it was weird that they. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>also the globes. I mean, NICKI fucking killed it.

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<v Speaker 2>NICKI killed it, and I watched it with my parents

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<v Speaker 2>and then I text Niki and she text me back

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<v Speaker 2>and my parents were very impressed. I'm like, not during

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<v Speaker 2>the show, she it was insane, she did. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that she called out CBS News. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was still silly, but I love the rost. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Leo being like, open up, man, open up. Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that she kind of like and look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna say it because she's a woman, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think she kind of has like a mastered it how

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<v Speaker 1>you can like tease people but still not come off

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<v Speaker 1>as like rude or mean, because in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Coy and other people have like failed at you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and I guess Ricky Gervais, she said in

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<v Speaker 2>an interview that like she got to talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone and he said, you're not one of them, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever forget You're not one of them. You're here

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<v Speaker 2>to entertain them and like be funny, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's where maybe the other person you mentioned slipped up, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking he's like a hot shot for doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like get to work, get to work, and

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<v Speaker 2>she gets to work. But she looked, I mean she

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<v Speaker 2>looked incredible. The gowns are incredible. She came out to

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift songs and I liked all the jokes, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was really laughing out loud a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, yeah, I mean I saw her head

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<v Speaker 1>writer at a party, like when they were just getting

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<v Speaker 1>stared Sean Sean Sean, and he was like, I were

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<v Speaker 1>running it like a hundred times.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know she worked her ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a huge writing team, Like she put so

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<v Speaker 1>much work into it. So yeah, it worked out. I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly have not seen the full thing. I've just seen

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<v Speaker 1>the clips and I Michael being jerk.

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<v Speaker 4>That's shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>You love Award shows, Lisa, I cut the cord. How

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<v Speaker 1>do I even watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I canceled my Paramount Plus, but I had it,

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<v Speaker 2>and my niece was texting me because obviously she was

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<v Speaker 2>watching for the heated rivalry boys, and so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to put it on my parents' TV and we just

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<v Speaker 2>wasted it. But it's running out on Paramount Plus on

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<v Speaker 2>my Amazon, but like, I canceled it so I have

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<v Speaker 2>a few more weeks and it worked out.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to watch it. But I'm also having.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I literally was texting people and no one could

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<v Speaker 1>tell me how to watch it. No one could tell

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<v Speaker 1>me how to watch it, like everyone was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, But because they were at the heated rivalry table,

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<v Speaker 2>Kumalan Emily were on the screen a few a few

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<v Speaker 2>extra times.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, not that he's not a star, but well

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<v Speaker 4>he was nominated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Ava Victor getting the shout out from Julia

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<v Speaker 2>Roberts like what that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did you see that? So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you watched Sorry Baby. Did you hear about Sorry Baby? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've heard about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how I've met Ava Victor, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do some know her kind of But she wrote

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<v Speaker 2>and directed and starred in this movie called Sorry Baby.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it. It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>It got nominated in the same category with Julia Roberts.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was for acting or directing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, it's a blur. But Julia Roberts, while she

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<v Speaker 2>was presenting an award was like, oh, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hanging out with Ava Victor. She's a genius,

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<v Speaker 2>She's my hero. You have to watch sorry baby. Oh wow, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how fucking cool is that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's very cool?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was Yeah, she stars in it, wrote wrote wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and then cut to like an interview popped up on

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<v Speaker 2>my phone from weeks prior to the Golden Globes or

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<v Speaker 2>She's like the only person I wanted to meet is

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<v Speaker 2>Julia Roberts, yes, and so like that was really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought the speeches were so boring. Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a hater. I don't give a fuck. I was so bored.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is so boring. And then one person thinks crew

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<v Speaker 2>members and then it became this trend where I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't think any of you are sincere, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're all putting something on and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like any of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I don't those speed.

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<v Speaker 2>I was bored out of my fucking mind, and watching

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<v Speaker 2>something with commercials was really hard as well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>loved old Hollywood being there. I liked seeing Leo and

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<v Speaker 2>Julia Roberts and George Clooney like that was exciting. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, that's so funny that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought the Leo jokes were funny too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody knows anything about you, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>But the pasta pasta because I was such a Leo

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<v Speaker 2>Titanic head. I remember that teen B interview, like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember reading that. Wait, I didn't see Marty's supremum. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to so tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for me, just I mean good, he's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like those Safti brother I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the Safti brothers. I know that they they

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<v Speaker 1>got divorced or whatever, but like like just the everybody

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<v Speaker 1>screaming over each other and every single thing that can

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong going wrong, stacked on top on.

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<v Speaker 4>Top on top on top.

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<v Speaker 1>They like I told you, and I go, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like curb your enthusiasm with violence. Like it's just too

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<v Speaker 1>like agitating for me, Like it's just it's not enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can see how it is a good move.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody is good in it. It looks good. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wouldn't watch it again. These movies like

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<v Speaker 2>they get me really like agitated.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's you know, he's he's playing a very very

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<v Speaker 1>annoying character and he's very good. But it's nuts. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pamela Adlon's daughters on the scene now, o,

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<v Speaker 1>Guessa or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>She's wonderful. She's very good. She she was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I was gonna say just a sighting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, somebody saw me at Trader Joe's and

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<v Speaker 1>complimented me on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, oh my god, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two seconds later I see Tessa from Fucking Yellowjackets,

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<v Speaker 1>Young Tessa.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we just kept seeing each other and smiling

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at each other the whole time. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>made eye contact like three times, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>should I say anything? But then I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go you know, I'm not gonna go up

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<v Speaker 1>to But I was like, someone just told me they

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<v Speaker 1>like my work. Should I just go up to her

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<v Speaker 1>and say I like your work? I don't know, But

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, I had to get out of there.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, I guess who I went out with last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Who Arsley our MVP. I met one of her sisters

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<v Speaker 2>and we went out and had a couple drinks after

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<v Speaker 2>she saw Oh Mary, So that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, who who's the Mary currently?

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<v Speaker 4>Shane Jinks? She got to see Jinks. Oh Jinks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so that was exciting but so good. But so we

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<v Speaker 4>so Arseny me. We have the same birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we ended up at the bar starting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to another group of people that were there for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, living their lives at a bar too. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the other girl's birthdays was August thirty first

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Wow, it felt huge, huge felt for the

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<v Speaker 2>virgo A shaft of virgos meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it? What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the community? What's the communal noun for virgos? And

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<v Speaker 1>the parliament of Virgos?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a bunch of virgins, a bunch of rgents.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, back to heated rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you want to talk about any of your

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<v Speaker 2>other favorite moments so far?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean silence, Well, we can wait till next week

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<v Speaker 4>to really get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'd be too psychotic at this point

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<v Speaker 2>because I really have such favorite lines. I like when

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, mah no, no boring Canadians, no dumb Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I red that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's like great. I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Have great chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also like, it's also sort of sad that

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<v Speaker 1>like so much of it is about that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even be themselves, that they can't come out and like

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<v Speaker 1>because in sports, even though it's twenty twenty five to six,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what's so little that's not a spoiler, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can notice if you already haven't noticed, like the attention

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<v Speaker 2>to detail of this fucking show. The text bubbles changed

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<v Speaker 2>throughout time as the years go by. Oh so eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I realized it was an iPhone and I go, wait, are.

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<v Speaker 4>You fucking kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course I'm going back and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>to like old timey phones and it goes to BlackBerry,

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<v Speaker 2>and you like kind of see the progression of tech.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, this is why shows like this need

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<v Speaker 2>people like me to watch it so much, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>putting all this detail in and I'm here to watch it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're and you're catching it. I'm here to catchlock.

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<v Speaker 1>I did clock when at one point Hollander's watching a

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<v Speaker 1>video of Rosenakhov, like on rosen Off, rosen Off, rosen Off, sorry, Rosanoff,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different I know, a person with that last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it rosen Off, but Rosanoff is and he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a video of him and I'm like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck phone is that? And then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty eleven. It's a BlackBerry, like because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really I had a BlackBerry, and I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>ever really had video capability. If I did, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really bad, like it was bad video. So I just looked, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was I do, like, I respect the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>tens of it all, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Not over the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I read an interview with the costume designer who's

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<v Speaker 2>so good, and she was saying, she goes, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go for trendy. I lived that, and I just went

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<v Speaker 2>through my memory of what people would wear, especially athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>and like they repeat outfits in the wrinkles of clothes

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<v Speaker 2>because like Hollander wouldn't iron a linen, like these little

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<v Speaker 2>details and I don't know, they just fucking kill me.

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<v Speaker 4>The slides that Ilia wears.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she she's like, I didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>trendy and obvious, but like I just wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>off feeling and what I remember, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I can sense that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm really like just drawn into what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with these guys. I'm into the story.

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<v Speaker 4>They're so talented.

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<v Speaker 2>I like really don't and I wonder what they'll do next,

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously want another season of this, but or two more.

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<v Speaker 4>I will have finished the other three by next intro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean my dms are filled with people

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but but I'm not. Wonder are

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<v Speaker 1>you watching Traders?

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse, you know, you know my stance. I'm pissed

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<v Speaker 2>I was not cast and I'm never like this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always happy for people and enjoying the arts. I refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to watch Traders. My bff Julia did fill me in

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<v Speaker 2>fully spoiled everything for me, and I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about it, but I'm not giving my numbers. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even stand it. I can't say it, but I hurt. No,

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not as sad as it sounds, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch it. I don't want to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I heard the person that I'm annoyed that got

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<v Speaker 2>it fucked everything up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they had a fuck up, a big fuck up,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's just like a lot of housewives and yeah,

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>housewives action like in the past couple I don't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually can't speak to the Phager season. But last

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<v Speaker 1>season it felt like the housewives were kind of like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Dolo was on till the end, but

0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.240
<v Speaker 1>she was a little bit like just like a nicey

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<v Speaker 1>nice that didn't really.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think she she voted.

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<v Speaker 1>For Tom Sandabal like every single week, you know, like

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just she wasn't And then I got out early.

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Like this year, it feels like they're going to really

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>be like key players. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope so.

0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, because that's what the dumb thing that everyone's

0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.640
<v Speaker 2>always done, is they get rid of the housewives first

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:22.440
<v Speaker 2>instead of the strategic game players, which is so stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>These women have no idea what's going on, which is

0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.879
<v Speaker 4>different this season. Yeah. So, and I like that a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of them are in the cloaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I'm I'm happy to know everything that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't really want to watch anything but heated rivalry,

0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and especially not a Castle I'm so jealous of.

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<v Speaker 4>Get me into that Castle campaign?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not the next one?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think they're doing regular people or something I

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<v Speaker 2>heard after listen. If they want me, they can come

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.639
<v Speaker 2>get me. I'm done in the year before.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they done comedians?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so okay.

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I know they offered it to some people we know,

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure. I'm yeah, okay, I'm like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure I'm telling you the lines. I really

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.360
<v Speaker 2>like that. Don't mess it up. But we'll just wait

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 2>till next week. We'll wait, okay, wait. And I feel

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 2>like people are at.

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<v Speaker 3>The chair scene.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the way he says fuck.

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I just am obsessed in what scene the chair

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.160
<v Speaker 2>scene in Vegas after the Awards where he drags the chair.

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 4>That was like a hot scene. Yeah.

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But also Shane, oh my god, I can't believe you

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.679
<v Speaker 2>don't remember. That's like crazy. But also like Shane just

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.199
<v Speaker 2>being so autism of like stop bringing up Russia. He

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>clearly hates it and has a terrible life. Yeah, like

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.159
<v Speaker 2>like it took him so long to realize, Like I

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's just he's like they just fucked and

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 2>he's like, so Russia where you were really sad, It's

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 2>like so fun.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna go home for the summer.

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's like such a like I mean, I

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>know he's Canadian, but he has like, you know, vibe

0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>as like American, like Northeastern sort of like athlete.

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Like, so you're going home for the summer for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what Connor was saying, that the jock element

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 2>was harder to do than the Russian and the like

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 2>fucking was like being a hockey jock.

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like skating was the hardest part. Damn to

0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>have to master all these fucking things.

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you saw Janelle's little thing where she kind

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of had so much fleck that was really good.

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, oh.

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I also undercurrent that I love is like his English

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 2>gets better throughout and it's like very subtle, but like

0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>there's moments where he learns new words, but like the

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 2>accent changes throughout and I just feel they you know,

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>they shot it out of order. And so to have

0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 2>this skill of like knowing where to have your Russian

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 2>be a certain way and the accent and like the

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 2>dropped verbs and like in I don't know how, I

0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know enough about grammar, but there's intro like my

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 2>dad words. Yeah, it's direct and like the early scenes

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 2>really have that, and then he gets better and I

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 2>like seeing him or like certain words where he goes

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>like what is that? Or he has to like ponder

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 2>about a word or like stick in a Russian word.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just so like impressed by that.

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like, well, I mean, Hollander

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>does say at one point, when's your English?

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Get so good?

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, you know, I love all of that.

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Every time he's like saying like stuff about his dick,

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, oh, who taught you that word?

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 4>I like that?

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he's there's like just the little runner that

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>he's such an asshole and everybody keeps calling him an asshole.

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then when you come back next week, we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about who you think fell in love first?

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, okay, okay, because I have an opinion now,

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.919
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure it'll be saying in three well, I

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>mean to me, it feels like to me, it feels

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like Hollander is more like innocently in love with him

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with with Rosanov then, and that Rosanov kind of went

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.199
<v Speaker 1>forward initially probably out of like let's see, like you know,

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out of just sexual attraction, but then he is falling

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>in love with him also, But to me, it feels

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like Hollander's more like he's but also maybe that's just

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>his russianness and his coldness, because like he's the one

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that's always like all right, bye, get out of here,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, like and he like, like the

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 1>last thing I saw of those two was him being like,

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>we didn't even kiss and then he deletes. It's so sweet,

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's like I feel like anybody can

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>relate to that. Anybody can be like, hey, like, are

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you like being in a relationship with someone that's like

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 1>is this do you even care about me?

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Or is this just like a physical thing? So I

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>to me, it feels like Hollander right now. But you know,

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I've only seen two full episodes with them, and then

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the second, the last one has nothing to do with them.

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 2>So the third one, so you're about to watch my

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 2>favorite outside. I mean, obviously the finale is like great,

0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>but I really love everything that happens at Ilia's house

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in Boston.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So oh okay, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm get

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm catching up. I've got time, I've got time this

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>week and I'm gonna do it. I just have so much.

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And I really felt like I was being really good

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on catching up with my stuff lately, Like I was

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>on Traders, I'm caught up on I'm caught up on

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake. But I was just talking to one of

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>our mutual friends about like, just I'm sort of just

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like falling off some of the housewives. I used to

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>be such a completist and watching even if it was bad.

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, I'm not watching not Potomac. I heard

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>has been fun. I need to get back into it.

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of just dropped off a little bit.

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And then a bunch of my friends were like, I'm

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>not gonna watch Beverly Hills anymore.

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 4>We're bored.

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm sort of obsessed with seeing

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.959
<v Speaker 1>where things go with this new grifter though she's such

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>a grift.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Mine, I don't I'm not watching anything but heated rivalry.

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not being like hyperbolic here, Like, wait, did

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I already.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about this girl on on this No, I'm just

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Amanda is this new girl on Beverly Hill.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>She has a book called Rich as Fuck, and it's

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>about encouraging women to like get rich and.

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, II matter, yeah the griftery.

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, like get past their borders about money.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>But then Dart is getting divorced and Bo's is like,

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>do you have any advice for her? And she goes,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you got to just figure out what you're gonna do, girl,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you gotta just be what you say you're gonna be.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I'm sorry, I was thinking more along

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 1>the lines of open an ira or like you know,

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like she thought she would maybe give her some concrete

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.959
<v Speaker 1>advice of like, oh, here's what you do with some

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of your assets, and the girl was like, just you know,

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>get manifesting, babe, like you know, and it's kind of

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy to see somebody build an empire and be a

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>best selling author when they constantly say I have actual

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>no financial expertise.

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's but like spiritually helping. Like you can't say

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you're a financial money professional and not know anything.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take an introductory course, head on down to the

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>community college. Let's do something. And she's like, that's not me.

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm vibes. I'm all vibes about money. But you know,

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>award season is upon us. Wait, but we've been getting

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of messages, we have to start but really quickly.

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>We've been getting a lot of messages about Timothy Bussfield.

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I sent you this. This guy was in the episode

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Russian Brides of SVU. He's in an upcoming SVU episode

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>which actually I believe is supposed to air. It's airing

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>for we're recording this early because as always were in

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the time machine, it was supposed to be. He's in

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>a new episode playing a judge, and his episode was

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>supposed to air this week. But if you're listening to

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this last week and they swapped out the episode because

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on because this guy has been accused

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of of sexual assault against miners.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And these two he's he's an actor.

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 4>He was on the West Wing.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I sent it to you through IG so

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe if you missed it in the midst of a

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>heated rivalry flurry, but like you know this he he

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>it's these two twins that worked with him on a

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and then now there's as of today, he turned himself in.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 4>He was missing for a minute and then he turned

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 4>himself in.

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And he's married to Melissa Gilbert, who was like a

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>famous actress from like Little house on the prairie and

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other stuff. So and she says she's

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>standing by him, and now there's an accusation from a

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 4>So it's getting worse and worse.

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy that it's affecting current SVU because they

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>had to pull this episode and maybe it'll go on

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the shelf with the Trump episode and we'll never see it.

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 4>The perverts keep perverting. Yeah, yeah, all right.

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Well let's start and you know, keep our disassociation from

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>our reality going.

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, as always, fuck ice, and let's let's

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>start the episode. Okay, today we are doing the episode Ripped,

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>which reminds me.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if everybody knows.

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>The lore of our podcast is that we were originally

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be called Ripped from the headlines, and then

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>some rando's quickly started a podcast called that that I

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>don't even know if they update it. I'm kind of

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>happy that it went that way, though, because I think

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that's messed up is about her name. But Casey didn't

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>know any of this. No, he's just learning it.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>No, that's messed up is way more fun for us.

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I like the TMU of it all. I like that

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 2>at Honors iced tea and ripped from the headlines as

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>like the Hulu playlists. Yes you know, you know it's Yes,

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not as unique, but it was obviously perfect for

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the podcast.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna do?

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So whenever I see this, when I see

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this episode ripped, I think of ripped from the headlines,

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But it has nothing to do with that.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>And you also might not know that when we got

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>offered the deal or the contract or something, Kara was

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>in labor responding to emails like the podcast is as

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 2>old as Rosy because she was being born as Kara

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>was like signing the contracts.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Then I like got my drag Race job, Like well,

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>while wearing a diaper in.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 4>The hospital. Do you know this? Do you know? Rosie

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 4>was a month old.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Jared was on set like working on a movie with Kumel,

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and so Kara got her dream job at drag Race.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 4>Rosie's a month old and her husband is out of.

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Town, and then you and I are driving around pitching

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>It was crazy.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like leaving SVU, I'm like leaving my job at

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>drag Race, being like can I have a long lunch

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>so we can go like pitch the Pod.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I think if it was called Rip from the Headlines,

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it would not still be on the air.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Really, we've changed the personality of the show entirely.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I think so too, because I think a lot because

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Rip from the Headlines doesn't only apply to SVU, Like,

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of TV movies that are called Rip

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>from the Headlines, and I think it would have just

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>been a different thing.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of names, I also just want to say,

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I love how you've all embraced the Tommies. Hear from

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the Tommies and We're gonna get you some Tommy. I'm

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>grinning from ear to ear that we finally have a

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>name and where the yeah the Tommy's Unite.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So Ripped is from season seven, which is

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a hot season. It's the season Mariushka one the Emmy.

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that later, but it's it's I would

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>say it's a packed, a jam packed season. It's episode

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>four from October of two thousand and five, Baby Take

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Me Back. Benson and Stabler are at a school, briskly

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>walking to meet a victim with the school's principal, who's

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>describing how Pamela just ran out of an empty classroom.

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Her clothes were ripped, she'd been hit, but she won't

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>tell them anything else. So now Pamela's getting wheeled out

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on a stretcher. A very over it emergency responder is like, yeah,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>he did a real number on her face. She might

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>need a couple of stitches. Like, it's a lot of

0:30:55.960 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the victim looks like she's been hit on

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the head. But it's like, nobody seems that. I don't

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>know the I don't know the the reactions are mixed.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I'll say that. Yeah.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So she's telling Benson, I don't want to talk about it.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Forget about it. It was just an argument. I said something

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>nasty to him. It's my fault. And as Pamela gets

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>loaded into the ambulance, the principal tells detectives that a

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>boy in a baseball practice uniform was just seen running

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>down the halls after the attack. So now Finn and

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Stable are head straight to the baseball field. They spot

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a pitcher immediately with blood on his shirt, and he

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>jogs over to them and they're like, what's up, dog,

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>How the blood get there? And he looks genuinely confused,

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and then Finn goes, are you sure it's not from

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>beating the crap out of Pamela Sawyer, And then this

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>high school kid just winds up and cold Cock's fin

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>right in the face, like a full punch to the face.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Stabler attacks him, tackles him down.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>He's got him, like, you know, in his hold, and

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>he's like, my dad's a cop, and they're like, what's

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>his name, and he goes Pete Breslin, and Saylor looks

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>at him and goes, you're Luke. And of course this

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>kid's father was his radio car partner back in the day.

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Of course, like Stabler knows Catholic school Catholic schools in

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>New York and every other cop in the city as

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>well has been his partner before Benson. So the credits

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>are happening now. It's a pretty great credit freeze. At

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the end, it's the main four plus Craigan plus one

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>plus Novak plus Milinda.

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty good. That's like a real hot lineup right.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And then at the precinct, Luke is worried that his

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>dad is going to freak out.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Stabler's like, let me talk to.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Him first, and Luke is like, did I do something wrong,

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and Finn like looks annoyed, and Stabler's like, you beat

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>up Pamela Sawyer and Luke's like, did she say I

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>did that? And Finn's like, and then when we confronted you,

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you punched me in the fucking face. And Luke is like,

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that, And so obviously we get some

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't recalls on this show, but this seems like

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this kid really doesn't remember. And Luke, by the way,

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is played by Paul Wesley, who is also in season

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>two an episode called Wrong is Right, But I.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I he was very like J fourteen magazine. Yeah, Robbie

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Tiger b Yeah, what is the episode of us wrong?

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 4>Wrong is Right? From season two?

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And even I know I don't remember the title of that,

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure we've seen it, but maybe we'll cover it.

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember the beginning of Okay, I remember these guys eyebrows.

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's a friend of like a victim or

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.479
<v Speaker 1>something like that in the in this episode.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 4>I looked it up.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>But many of you might know him. He was in

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy one episodes of The Vampire Diary,

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so you might know him as a vampire hunk. I

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's a vampire or not, but that's

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that I would say. Is this big uh his big

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>IMDb presence.

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>So they asked the.

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Kid, like, we want to fuck vampires the most of

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>the classic monsters.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh for sure. Yeah, vampires are the sexiest one. Whose

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 4>second place? What is it? Wolfman, Frankenstein, the Mummy?

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like also like any monster type, like zombies, like, yeah,

0:33:58.880 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody's really.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Well no, I'm talking the classics, the classics. Vampire. Yeah,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 4>nobody wants to put the Mummy.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I know, the Lagoon the Lagoon guy, but the creature

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>from the Black Lagoon, he's number two.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 4>He's hot, he has abs. I don't know. I think that.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, vampires are the sexy ones because they also like

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.720
<v Speaker 1>use mind control to like seduce people.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, rape, okay, a.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Little rape, but I mean true blood. So anyway, Paul

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Wesley Vampire Diary. So Luke remembers eighth period. He remembers

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the bell ringing, getting dressed for practice, and then the

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>next thing he remembers is he's sitting alone in the

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>back of a squad car and Stabler asks about the

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>blood on his shirt again, and he's like, I have

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>no clue how this got there, and they point out

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Paula on like the lower they're they're weirdly like on

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the upper level of the precinct, like looking down that

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>little I kind of like when they go up to

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>that little nook because it's not cement room bars, it's

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>not woodroom blinds, it's van.

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is.

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Trick, it's for trick playing, it's for romance. I would

0:34:58.760 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>love to get to propose.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>The old lady was up there when they gave her

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the sweatshirt.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Get proposed to in the old s VU set on

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the stairs to the lofted area of the precinct, and

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>then a Chinese food lunch and boxes was waiting for me.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I would wow, I would that would be it?

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 4>That would be it. I think even if you.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Were going to say no, you'd say yes. Yeah. I

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>think if someone did that for me, I would marry that.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>They reconstruct.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>They have to reconstruct the old s view set because honestly,

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the new one is completely sleek and computer graphics and

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like different, and will you marry me? Has to be

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>written on like corkboard with like a bunch of pictures

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of you guys with that like look like crime scene photos, but.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 4>It's pictures of you guys. And then and then Melinda

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 4>comes in with some news.

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like wait a minute, and she has the

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>ring in a baggie. Oh my god, I love this. Okay, Wow,

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we're really planning it.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 4>We have then the Year of the Whores.

0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>These you gotta ask for what you want, okay. So anyway,

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>they point to Paula on the lower level and he's like,

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, can I talk to her? And it's like, no, dummy,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have you, like, do you know your dad's a copy

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.399
<v Speaker 1>yet talked to her? Sabler and Finn go downstairs while

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Munch keeps an eye on Luke, and then Finn tells

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Sabler like, Sabler's like, hey, let's get started on that

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>paperwork to charge this kid, and stable Finn's like, I

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know this kid like, you don't really

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>need to press charges.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 4>He seems like he's jammed up enough. So Finn's like

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 4>kind of.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Doing a solid here and like not charging this kid

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>for punching him in the face.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 4>So in a room cause I couldn't tell what room,

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 4>it was.

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's not woodroom blinds, it's like an office

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in an office. Benson is talking to Pamela, who says

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that she's not going to change her mind, so they

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>might as well stop asking her, and Stabler mentions Luke

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, how'd you know and Stabler's like, yeah,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>your blood is all over his shirt, like we can

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>find things out.

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 4>You guys are not high school detectives.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Pamela is played by an actor and

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>singer named Julia Weldon who is non binary. But since

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>they are playing a fee male character, I will be

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>saying she when referring to Pamela. But they were in

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>this movie called Before and After with Meryl Streep and

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Liam Neeson, which I've never heard of but I thought

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>could be good for movie Grid.

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Wait tell me again.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It's called Before and After, and it's some kind of

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>thrillery murder thing, and I think they play like their

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>child or so they play like Meryl Streep and Liam

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Neeson's kid or something. But I think it's some kind

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of movie that looked really.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Like Meryl stays working. Yeah, what's some oh my good

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>murdering his girlfriend?

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's from nineteen ninety six. Like this feels like

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's around the time of like The River Wild, and

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like when I was seeing a lot of Meryl Streep movies.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 4>So Edward Furlong's in.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah, he had a time John Hurd as view

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>alum John heard who I Love Rip the Dad from

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Home Alone.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I've never heard.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Of this movie, and.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 4>They're in it.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So but they're mostly I think a musician now and

0:37:58.640 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>doing some acting.

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, Pamela is work.

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I just thought before and after a movie Grid, Liam Neeson,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Meryl Street, Yes, you help me. You know, no one's

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna put that one. That one's gonna be low percent.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Pamela's really worried Abou's gonna happen to Luke. She's like,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this is not like him. There must be something wrong

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>with him. And Benson is like, tell us what he

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>did and maybe we can help him, and Pamela's like, well,

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I was working after school. I saw Luke running down

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the hallway. He was acting all hyped up and weird.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Then he grabbed me and started kissing me on the lips.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I pushed him away. He got really mad.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Then he pulled me into a classroom, ripped my shirt.

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I kicked him and then he hit me in the face,

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, we're best friends, but maybe I said

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 1>something or did something to lead him on. And Benson

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is pressuring her to press charges, but she's like, but

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Luke wi get kicked out of school, he won't graduate.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>What'll everyone say if I do that to him? Like

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>she's stressed, so Craigan pulls Stabler.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Out of the room. Pamela's parents have arrived.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Stabler tells the parents like, well, she's a little bruised up,

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of stitches, but otherwise she's okay. And the

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>parents are like, he's been friends since second grade. There,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>we're like his surrogand parents, how could he do this?

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>And Stabler's like, well, you know, Pamela won't press charges,

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but the parents want their surrogate son to pay. They're like, well,

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>then we will, and they're like he's like, well, the

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>most we could charge him with would be misdemeanor assault,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and the dad's like that's it. Like I understand you

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see your kid hit, but if this

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>kid is like your good family friend, I feel like

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>you want to get some answers first, before you jump

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to like all the legality up. But if you're I

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're normal, I don't know, maybe you're

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>just like fuck that, Like, but if it seems very

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>out of character for this kid, let's get to the

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>bottom of it.

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Stabler goes.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Stabler just off handedly goes, it might not be worth

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it to make Pamela relive what happened to trial.

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, piece of shit. He's such a piece of Yeah. Yeah.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Benson pulls Stabler into another room and she's like, what

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the fuck was that he assaulted her?

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 4>That's the end of the story.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And Stabler's like, I'm having a hard time believing it

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because of this memory loss issue.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think Benson's kind.

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Of like, yeah, dog, we've heard a million people say

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that they've lost their memory, Like why do we have

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to believe this kid because you know his partner? And

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Stabler's like, well, I called Huang to come in and

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>talk to him. Benson's like, since when do we call

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the shrink before we do like before the caller, and

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Ben sin quotes his whole it might not be worth

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it line that he just said to the parents. She's like,

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to make this go away, and he goes,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I've known Luke since he was a baby. He was

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>always a sweet kid.

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And Benson's like, you didn't even write It's like you

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't even recognize him. You go, you're Luke like you

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>She goes, you haven't seen him since he hit puberty.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>He's not so sweet anymore. Like it's so true. It's like,

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 2>but I knew this kid till he was ten. Now

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>he's seventeen. Nothing could have changed.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>In the next scene, the dad Pete finally shows up

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler greets him, and he's played by Noah Emerick,

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>who is to me known from the Americans, but he

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>works a lot. He's also in the current Hulu Murdoch

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Murders show that I haven't watched, but it's with you know,

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Patricia Arquette, and it's I did listen to like a

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>whole Murdoch Murders podcast. I was very invested at the

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>time that it was all going down. So he's relieved

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to see Stabler. He's like, I'm so lucky you caught

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>this because immediately it's like cops pat in each other

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>on the back, right, rubbing each other's elbows.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 4>What are they doing greasing each other's wheels.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway, Stabler asks about Lily uh, and

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Pete goes, oh, she left six years ago.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 4>She lives in Michigan. She doesn't even call, not even Luke.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I get that women can have issues and

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this and that, but like, she walked out on you, Like,

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>what kind of husband were you?

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 4>She walked out on you and the kid and doesn't

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 4>talk to either of you. What was up?

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, I can't imagine that it was good. Stabler tells,

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean not that women don't walk out on families randomly.

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't. It doesn't.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not as common. Then Stabler tells him, I feel you.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Kathy and her kids are staying at Kathy's moms right now.

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>So I guess it's just hard to be married to

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you heroes you got, you know, so hard to be

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.879
<v Speaker 1>married to these like, you know, untouchable strong men. So

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he tells Pete about the memory loss thing, and immediately

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Pete's like, you talked to my song with the courtesy

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>of waiting for me, and Stabler's like, dog, chill, I'm

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>not trying to run a game on your son, and

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>he sends Pete to talk to Luke, who is in

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>there with Munch, and then Stabler finds Benson in a

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>huddle with Daddy, Craigan and Novak strategizing how to charge Luke,

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and Novak's like, slam dunk, We've got plenty of evidence.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>We can charge him like a batterer with a wife

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that won't cooperate, you know. And then Stabler chimes in

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, it's awful lot of work for a misdemeanor,

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and Benson's like he could have killed her, and Novak goes,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll go get the ball rolling, and then we don't

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>see her again, but Craigan tells Stabler to get Luke

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>into the system now. Then Wang shows up, Munch leaves

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and says, I'll be in the porcelain reading room. Okay, Munch, Jesus,

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I usually think his humor is a little bit more highbrow,

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, Huang tells. Huang asks Pete, hey, is it

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 1>okay if I talked to your son? And he goes, yeah, sure,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>if you think it'll help, and so they him and

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Stabler step out and outside, Pete says, you know, yeah,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Luke told me the same thing about them memory loss.

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about him, And Stabler's like, is there a

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>possibility he could be on drugs? Pete goes he's a

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>straight a student. He throws a ninety eight mile an

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hour fastball and he hits home runs. Everyone loves him.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Does that sound like he's on drugs? And it's like

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, yeah, absolutely could be, Like you know

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a drugs Yeah, it's like, oh, you have to be

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>getting f's and be bad at sports to do drugs,

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I bet this cop dork thinks that way though, yeah, yes,

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Like he he's acting like, uh this, I've got the

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>perfect son. He doesn't do drugs. And Stabler breaks the

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>news like I got to collar him. My captain's ordering me,

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, dude, he's got colleges, he's got scouts

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>from the majors and the miners looking at him. He

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>must be it's he did really out of this girl?

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Like have you has? The dad even asked if she's okay? Yeah,

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you're strong enough to throw a ninety eight

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>mile an hour fastball and the major leagues are looking

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.240
<v Speaker 1>at you, you're really gonna fire someone up with a punch,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, that's not like me punching someone, Like

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could even break skin, you know,

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never tried. But so Pete's like, you know this

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be so bad for him, and Stabler's like,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he won't do any time for this,

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and Pete explains because it's a first time offense and

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a misdemeanor. Pete explains like, well, he'll have to

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>report it to every team, to every college. His life

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>will be over before it even starts. And Stable goes,

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>he punched the girl three times. It's serious, and I

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize he punched her three times until just now, like,

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and he goes call a lawyer, and then Pete's like,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna do anything, and Stabler looks pissed, like

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually doing my best to help you right now,

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and then he goes, I heard what those cops did

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>for your daughter and her DUI, which you know, Stabler

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 1>got people to help him one time, and it comes

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>back to haunt him many many times. And he goes,

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>my daughter didn't hurt anyone, But Pete's like, yeah, but

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>she could have killed someone, you know, and he goes

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and then I'd be in the same damn boat as you,

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>telling you to do the same damn thing. He tells, Pete,

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>go home, who's going in the system, and you can't.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Do shit about it.

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 1>So then he walks. Stable walks into the next room,

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and Craigan is right in his face, yelling at him

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>for what he said to Pamela's parents about not pressing charges.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, he goes, this is worse than breaking

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the rules. You put the squad, the whole squad's credibility

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on the line. You did everything you could to get

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>your old partner's kid a pass. As of right this minute,

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you're on vacation. Get your ass out of my sight

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>before I do something we both regret, and I said, fuck.

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Craigan is going in hard on this because Stable has

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>done worse, Like he has done a lot of bad shit,

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is bad.

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he's just like at the end of its.

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Usually like brute force, or like it's for the greater good,

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>or it's for the victim.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 4>They're like gonna break the law. That's true. He never

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 4>signs purposely.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this is like telling a victim not suppressed

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>charges when like she has a really deep bruise on

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>her head. I think it's and a cut, yeah, yeah, stitches,

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>she's yeah, So now Luke is, and she's clearly traumatized.

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to get her friend in trouble. You know,

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>there's like so many layers to this, and he should

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>be supporting the victims.

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Hello, yeah, hello.

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And also if something doesn't happen, they would have to

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 1>continue to go to school together, you know what I mean.

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>This is like not a random attack, like they are

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>in each other's lives, so you do have to like

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 1>look out for her and protect her if they were

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>to like let him off, you know. So now Luke

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is explaining to Huang, I've never punched anyone in my

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>entire life. My dad told me to punch back if

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>someone hits me first, but Pamela would never do that,

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm stronger than her.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 4>And Wang's like, are you okay?

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you seem anxious, and he goes, I'm in a

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>police station talking to a shrink about how I don't

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>remember ripping my best friend's clothes off and slugging her

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:42.919
<v Speaker 1>and then a cough.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I'm a little stressed.

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Out and I like that, which I like that It's

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>like he's not thank you, y on edge like, and

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, have you been feeling stressed lately?

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And Luke's like not really. He's like, how are you

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>doing at school? He goes, I have a three point

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>eight gpa? How do you do that with baseball?

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I stay up late all night if I have to.

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>That's not really, that's not.

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Good, seems need to sleep, yes, And how do you

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 2>do you have a lot of energy?

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yeah, I have a lot of energy. And

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>then do you ever have bad days? Sometimes I'll have

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a bad day. I wake up feeling really down. I

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 1>can barely get out of bed. And then he's like,

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>why are you trying to confuse me? And he's like,

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 1>everything's great, school, baseball. I have no idea why I

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>did this. And then Huang is telling Kragan that this

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>would not just be called caused by stress, and his

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>father agreed to let them do a drug test. Huang

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>thinks he could be bipolar. He's seventeen years old. That's

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>when some of these symptoms start to arise. I think

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like the seventeen to twenty two range. The attack

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 1>could have been rage brought on by a manick state

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and if he is bipolar though, Huang's like he needs meds,

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And Craigan tells Benson to check out Luke's history and

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>see if there's any other incidents like this, like with

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 1>his pet, like in his past, and then let's start

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>with Pamela. So now Benson's having an outside chat with Pamela.

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a sunny day. She has little butterfly stitches on

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>her head, Pamela, and she's like, I've never even seen

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Luke get mad, even when he should, like, and Benson's like, well,

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>when should he be getting mad? And she's like, well,

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like at his dad, nothing Luke does is ever good

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>enough for him. If Luke's get If Luke gets an

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>A on a test, his dad's like, it should have

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>been an A plus. If he pitches a two hitter,

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Dad's like it should have been a no hitter. He

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>says that after Luke had an operation, the doc said

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that if Luke didn't stop playing all year round, he'd

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>never pitch again, and Luke's dad just blamed him and

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>said it wouldn't happen if you'd worked out more, which

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that logic makes no sense. Then he gave Luke money

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 1>to join a gym. Finn is at the gym now,

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>talking to the owner, who has like a Southern accent.

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.439
<v Speaker 1>He just does not seem like a New York City

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 1>gym owner to me, but he is this like very

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>muscly man. So they obviously cast off of muscles.

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, yeah, work.

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Luke worked out here a ton until like a week ago,

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and he got into a fight with a member for

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>taking too long on the bench press. Luke slugged him

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and he was about to go at him again, and

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the owner jumped in to break it up. I haven't

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>seen him since. And then Finn's like all right, and

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>he's about to leave, and they're like, wait, he has

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a locker. You guys want to take all of his shit.

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>So we go into his locker. Finn starts clearing it out.

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It's regular shit, like socks, whatever, and then he comes

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>up on this little blue pouch and inside done done

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>deca depot.

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Andro Luke's on steroids and he stacking.

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Finn says, so this is this is a time two

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand and five when this episode's coming out where roid

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>rage steroids are a big topic of conversation.

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't remember that.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a little bit more information when Munch

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>makes a comment later. But yeah, so steroids are in

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that people are talking about them at this time.

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I just remember like the Mark McGuire, Sammy's so sad.

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, run of it all, Jose Conseco, right, like there's

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 1>been a lot.

0:49:56.400 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 2>That's who I think about and when I think about steroids.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And there was a there was something I read that

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was like some player that got caught for steroids was

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like said that in baseball, like eighty percent of they

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>think eighty percent of the guys are on steroids, like

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>at least at the time of this big the time

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 1>of this episode. So I don't know if I don't

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>know if there's like new regulations on it now where

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 1>they test them or whatever, but.

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Or they just call it something else. Yeah.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well because remember when like Lance Armstrong got caught

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>for doping and he's like, it's not what you think,

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's something different, like but there's I don't know. I

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:34.240
<v Speaker 1>will get into a little bit of this a little

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>in a second.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But god, because I am not I didn't at all.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, no, it's okay.

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>So Finn asks this little meatball man are you running

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a juice bar, which I love that because, like people

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>do call steroids juice, So that's fun.

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 4>It's that's a funny little that's a funny little line.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 4>And he goes. The guy goes, that.

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Stuff will give you pimples and shrink your balls. I

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know where it came from, but I'll cooperate. If

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 1>someone's in here selling it, I want to bust them.

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Finn goes, you'll let us put an undercover in here,

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>straight to Craigan walking with Benson and Finn going, yeah,

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Narcotics about getting the undercover request.

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 4>They laughed in my face.

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>They're like, why not. They're like, it's not a priority. Like, meanwhile,

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we're doing like I don't know, we haven't done it yet,

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>so I can't really talk about the next episode. But like, meanwhile,

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the war on drugs is still raging in the U,

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and we're like they're not, like the cops are not, like,

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, prioritizing steroid use. Like people on roids aren't

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>robbing and killing people for steroid money is like what

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>they say in that episode. But they're punching people out.

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Apparently they're assaulting people. Yeah, so could Luke have been

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>in a roid rage when he attacked Pamela, Craigan asks Hwang,

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and Huang's like, totally. The symptoms are basically the same

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>as bipolar, but his rage was caused by too much testosterone.

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Steroid use shuts down the natural production of testosterone, so

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>then if you stop taking them, you get really depressed

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>until your hormones start flowing again. And Huang said, you know,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he saw a roid rage rip a door off its

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.439
<v Speaker 1>hinges and it took two gunshot blasts to stop him.

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 4>So fuck So Luke.

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:13.959
<v Speaker 1>Basically made a play to impress his dad and bulk

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>up fast. And Craigan points out, yeah, plus his role models,

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 1>most of the guys and the majors use this stuff, right,

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and Congress then Munch chimes in and goes yeah, and

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Congress lets kids buy it over the counter. A certain

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>senator made a backroom deal to keep dhea on the market.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So who he's talking about is Republican Senator or in

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Hatch from Utah, who which Utah, among other grifts, is

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>famous for being a supplement state. Like a lot of

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>supplements are flowing through Utah, you know, like as the

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 1>same Yeah, like there it's the MLM state. It's the

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>state of.

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Grifting, like cults, influencer families, like any way you can

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like make money based on like lies.

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I guess they're doing it in Utah.

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So because the supplement industry is truly the wild West

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and unregulated and people are really really sucked into it

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>in a way, and it makes I think trillions of

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars every year.

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 4>So that's an upsetting.

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>So Orrin Hatch argued when they were making it like

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a steroid bill, that Dhea should be kept legal and

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>available as an anti aging pill.

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 4>And that's DHA is like a certain kind.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Of steroid steroid medication, I guess, and he or not

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>medication supplement. And he threatened to kill this huge piece

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of legislation that was going to restrict the sale of steroids,

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>educating children about the dangers steroids and increasing penalties for

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>illegal use if they did not all agree to him

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to make this exception for DHA.

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 4>So he made it happen.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know what's the fun coincidence or in Hatch's

0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>son is a lobbyist for the supplement business. So fully,

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like like Trump, in his family, people are making money

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>from all of this shit and from his politics, like,

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>this country needs harder rules on what lawmakers can be

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>attached to financially.

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:15.800
<v Speaker 4>It's really crazy.

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>But apparently a Democrat from Iowa also joined or in

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>hatch on this, but he was the main one that

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, we need to make this supplement. So that's

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>who the episode is referring to but not naming, And

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's on purpose because they didn't want

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to get sued or something. Yeah, Sohog tells them, with

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>no previous history of violence, it's likely that the steroids

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>made this kid do it.

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So Benson shows up at Stabler's house because Stabler has

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 1>been sent home, right, So he's at his empty house

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>without his kids and his wife just sad, and Benson

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 1>shows up and he's like, I don't want to talk

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 1>about this or whatever, and she's like, I'm just here

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to tell you that you are right. He's been juicing

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>for six months because of all the pressure his dad

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 1>is putting on him, and well does the dad know

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>about the drugs And they're like, well, Luke begged him

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 1>not to tell, and Stabler are like, oh, he's got

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 1>to know, and Benson's like, don't do that, which You're

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>immediately like he's going to do it right, And the

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>arraignment is tomorrow. So at arraignment, they're reading the charges

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>out against Luke assault in the third degree, in possession

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of a controlled substance in the third degree, and.

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 4>His dad yells out, what are you talking about?

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>My kid's not on drugs, and the judge is like,

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 2>shut the fuck up, and then you should know this,

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a cop, right, And then Luke pleads not guilty,

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.799
<v Speaker 2>and Novak explains the attack to the judge and the

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>discovery of the steroids.

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It's weird that people are like, didn't think the dad

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was going to be in court and hear all this,

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Like he's this is all going to be public record

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>if he's getting arraigned, right, So they request ro r

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Novak agrees to release him into the custody of his dad.

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>The judge releases him, the dad looks furious, he's fuming.

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>He grabs Luke and walks out of the courtroom. Stabler

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>follows them to a hallway. We hear the dad's voice yelling,

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't be a man without drugs, and then this

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.319
<v Speaker 1>little like dorky lawyer comes out of the bathroom and

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he goes the guy's beating up some kid, and so

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Stabler goes get help, and he goes into the bathroom.

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>So Sabler goes in. Pete's yelling at Luke, going, you're

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a failure. You can't be a man without drugs. Now

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole world has to hear it, hear about it.

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Sabler keeps trying to stop him from pounding on his

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>own kid, and then the guy punches Stabler so hard

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in the face and its yeah, throws him back into

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom mirror, shattering the mirror, and he's like, you've

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>done enough, and then he starts he starts laying into

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Luke again.

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 4>You stupid, stinking, sorry piece of crap.

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>You're a screw up, a failure, he says, and he

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>slaps his own son over and over.

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I'm so sack. It's so sad. He's

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 4>like going at him.

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, dude, he has a three point

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>eight and he might be playing Major League baseball, like

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you're a cop.

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I just want to like point out.

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Like if we're talking about like who's doing better, he's

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he's doing good. But whatever, Stabler feels the same. He

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>punches Pete and says, who is the failure? You son

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of a bitch. He punches him a lot until Pete

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>is finally like subdued and he's really Stabler's it's Stabler

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>rage like he's going at him and he's like, you

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>want some damage, I'll show you some damage, and he's

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>punching him. When the cops come in, they pull Stabler

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>off of him, like stand down, and they pull him

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>away and he's like, I'm the cop, and then the

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:22.840
<v Speaker 1>lawyer guy.

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Comes in the little bathroom.

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Lawyer comes in and goes, it wasn't him, it was

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the guy on the floor that was hitting the kid,

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and then Stabler makes eye contact with Luke Benson comes in.

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>He goes, leave me alone, and when she asks what happened,

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I don't know. And so the next thing

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>we see are Stabler's bloody knuckles knocking on a door.

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>The door opens and it's friend of the Pod Mary

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Stuart Masterson aka doctor Rebecca Hendrix, who the Squad last

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>worked with in the episode Identity about the identical twins

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>where one of them was forcibly transitioned into a girl

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and they murder their therapy. She invites him in, and

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.919
<v Speaker 1>then that's the commercial break. So now top of act two.

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this episode's a little bit weird

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>because this entire second act is him in her apartment,

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's like not usually the show moves around a lot,

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's definitely a little bit more of a

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>dramatic let's get inside Stabler's head. It's season seven, let's

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 1>get let's get behind the got behind this man. So

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he tells her that he just beat the hell out

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of a guy who was hitting his son, and Hendrix

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is like, can you remember anything else? And he's like,

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember looking in the mirror and she's like, what

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>did you see? He's like, what difference does that make?

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He's being very antagonistic for someone that just like randomly

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>knocked on a therapist's store. He sits down and he's

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like holding his head in his hand, going what's wrong

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>with me? What's wrong with me? Like over and over,

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I came to you because I didn't

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>nowhere else to go. My captain sent me home, my

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>wife left me, she took the kids. She was tired

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>of me being angry all the time. And now he's

0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>like laughing like he's like he's laughing talking about how

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Kathy was tired of him being angry all the time.

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, okay, well what happened and he goes, well,

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>we went to a priest for counseling, but then she

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted out, like he's very much talking about it, like

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it was all Kathy's decision and he had nothing to

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>do with it. He goes, I did everything I was

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. I work hard, I got a good job,

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I never cheated. Congratulations, And he's like, and now I've

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>lost my kids. It wasn't supposed to happen this way,

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know we know better because we have twelve

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>seasons of this man's behavior. But she goes, well, did

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>what happen today make you feel better? And he's like,

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>are you judging me? Don't work me like a purp,

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler is like he's clearly like in pain, but

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>he like cannot communicate him to this woman because literally

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he has not had any therapy or anyone even probably

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>talked to him in a nice way his whole life,

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>except maybe Kathy. And he's like, coming here was a

0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>mistake and he goes to leave. He like walks out

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the front door, and then she goes, let me ask

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you something. How many times have you thought about eating

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>your gun? He looks at her so shocked that she

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:07.360
<v Speaker 1>would even ask that. He's like, suicide's a sin like

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, so is divorce And he's like fair enough.

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And he comes back into the apartment and he sits down,

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, how long have you been at SVU?

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, twelve years. She goes, the average tour

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is two. So I'm wondering if maybe that's why we

1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>only got Cat for a couple of years. We only

1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:28.439
<v Speaker 1>got some of these other people.

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:30.720
<v Speaker 4>For a couple of years. You think they're being realistic

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 4>to the I.

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Mean it's also casting, but I know, but it's like, wow,

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we haven't kept anybody for a long time since Rollins,

1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like besides the originals. Oh no, caresy Yeah,

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but Coreasy changed careers. He did a different he went

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:47.120
<v Speaker 1>a different way, Like he doesn't actually have to like

1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily be at crime scenes as much, even though he's

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 1>showing up, he's doing pull ups. Okay, so what do

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you love about the job, She asks him, and he goes,

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Justice for the victims getting the pervs off the street.

1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not burned out. And then she goes, well, were

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you burned out on your marriage? And he goes, I

1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:05.080
<v Speaker 1>told you she bailed, and he goes, you want to

1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 1>cut me loose?

1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:06.480
<v Speaker 4>Give me a clue.

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like she showed up at the precinct on your

1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:11.520
<v Speaker 1>birthday with the kids to be like, hey, I guess

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:13.960
<v Speaker 1>we have to come here to celebrate your birthday because

1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you're such a psychopath.

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there are clues, dude, you're a detective. You didn't

1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:19.800
<v Speaker 2>see the clues.

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And then she goes, did your captain give you a

1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.560
<v Speaker 1>clue before he cut you loose? And he goes yeah,

1:01:27.600 --> 1:01:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like about a million, but I always blow it. I

1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 1>don't like being ordered around and she goes, then why

1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.720
<v Speaker 1>did you become a cop? Like she's actually asking a

1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of good questions. Yeah, and he goes, well, my

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 1>father was on the job and she goes, well, he

1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 1>must be proud, and he goes he's dead and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>well did he want you to do this?

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<v Speaker 4>And Stable doesn't really answer.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money, and

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<v Speaker 1>was it what you wanted? And he goes, yeah, to

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<v Speaker 1>be a cop all my life. And then she goes

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<v Speaker 1>to them, why wasn't your dad proud? He goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>never said that. Don't put words my mouth, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about how his dad liked the job until

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<v Speaker 1>it forced him to rat his friends out in the

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<v Speaker 1>NAP Commission. And I can't find the nare but we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the NAP Commission. I'm almost positive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find where the NAP Commission was formed. After Surproco

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<v Speaker 1>not Terry Cerproco, the actor, I think his name is

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Curproco. He's the guy that the movie's based on,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was this famous whistleblower from the NYPD who

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<v Speaker 1>blew the whistle on corruption and then they formed the

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<v Speaker 1>NAP Commission in the early seventies to like weed out

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<v Speaker 1>corruption at the NYPD. So ultimately it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like he's obviously kind of parroting his dad's

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<v Speaker 1>talking points, like yeah, and the whole is all this

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<v Speaker 1>shit about you're a rat. Like it's also the way

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<v Speaker 1>the show treats iab like, we're not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>finding cops doing bad things.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are they the bad guys? You know? So because

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<v Speaker 4>they bullied our boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah at this point, you know, obviously later I think

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<v Speaker 1>later Tucker gets more respect. But yeah, so the dad

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the whole Curcuco takedown. And we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>like cops that were from that time frame, like the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties also that were just like doing really really shady shit,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping drugs from drug deals and reselling them and et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's like, oh, so your dad was a snitch

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, my father was no rat. He never testified,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, I'm surprised he had a choice, and

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<v Speaker 1>Stabler goes, he didn't. They fired him and he lost

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<v Speaker 1>his pension, and you can imagine he acted like that

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of the world. And Stabler's like, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not him. Why all these questions. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>came to a therapist. I don't know what you thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen. She was going to inject you

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<v Speaker 1>with like a magic serum that makes you okay, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you thought was going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>at a therapist's office, and he's testing my patience. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote I wrote, show up at a shrink's house having

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking breakdown, and then you are like, why so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you think she was going to give you a

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<v Speaker 4>back rub? Like, it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange how he doesn't understand how therapy works in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I have to know you to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>And good fucking life, ma'am. Like, I feel like nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>This man does not let people in. So he sits

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<v Speaker 1>back down. She asks about the relationship with the dad.

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<v Speaker 1>What you guys used to do together. He's like, watch TV, playball,

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<v Speaker 1>go fishing. She's like, and well, he worked from four

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve, so we didn't spend a lot of time together,

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<v Speaker 1>which you could imagine. That's no time because you get

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<v Speaker 1>home at four am, you go to sleep, and your

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<v Speaker 1>kids go to school. You know you're never seeing them.

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<v Speaker 1>So she goes, he never helped you with your homework.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, one time he did. In fifth grade, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a diorama about the Civil War. He

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<v Speaker 1>told me where to put the cannons the soldiers. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I never forgot it. He's getting wistful. He loves this, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he is, but it's so it's straight. It's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one Civil war diorama is like the one nice

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<v Speaker 1>member he has of this man and then he goes.

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<v Speaker 4>She goes, did you get a good grade?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like the best therapist of all times, she's reading minds,

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<v Speaker 1>did you get a good grade? He goes, what difference

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<v Speaker 1>does that make? He's getting mad again. She goes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a question. He's like, what do you want from me?

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes the truth, start talking, start really talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes and she goes, what grade did you get?

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<v Speaker 1>All the diorama in fifth grade? As if anyone could

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<v Speaker 1>really remember, because I wouldn't remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>I did dozens of dioramas in school.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what grades I got on them, but

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I usually got an A because my dad

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<v Speaker 1>would do like the whole thing for me in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that really annoyed me, but really well, like one

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<v Speaker 1>time I really didn't want him to do the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me, and then I fully blacked out, like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a diorama of the SERENGETI, I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do. So I just got like

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<v Speaker 1>a box and I put a bunch of dirt in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm going to fail. And then

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<v Speaker 1>so I asked for a one day extension, and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like, we got this and like went to

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<v Speaker 1>like a full, made a full like Diorama, got all

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<v Speaker 1>this shit like that. He's good at that stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>did all that, and then anytime I asked him for

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<v Speaker 1>help on a project ever again, he just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took over, which I sometimes liked and sometimes was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me do something, you know. But I always did

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<v Speaker 1>get good grades because he did like the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn secrets revealed, Yeah, secrets aveil.

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<v Speaker 1>But one time in sixth grade, I made a track

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<v Speaker 1>for worm races, and I went out and spent like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars of my own money to buy the cassette

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<v Speaker 1>of Chariots a Fire to buy the Chariots of Fire

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<v Speaker 1>song so that the worms could race to Chariots a Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone in my class thought it was the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever, and I was really proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a diarym I did on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something I did on my own.

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<v Speaker 4>I made a worm race track. So anyway, she asked

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<v Speaker 4>about the grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, and he goes, I got I got an f okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hand it in, And he's fighting back tears.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes I moved one of the trees. My father

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<v Speaker 1>saw it as I was leaving for school, took it

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<v Speaker 1>out of my hands, threw it on the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>stomped on it. Sounds like a great guy. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in more Stabler dad lore, they get into it

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<v Speaker 1>more in oc if you're interest if that's like something

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<v Speaker 1>that is interesting to you, like the Stabler character. They

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<v Speaker 1>get into a lot of his family dynamics in organized crime,

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<v Speaker 1>like at one point he has to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>investigate an old case his dad worked like this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>But and apparently they've introduced his brothers on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>one being Dean Norris from Breaking Bad but I and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one being married the guy who's in real

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<v Speaker 1>life married to Jamie gray Hyder. But I have not

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to those episodes yet. So anyway, she goes, that

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<v Speaker 1>must have hurt and she and then he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he took his belt off and beat me with it

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<v Speaker 1>because I cried, and so it's like, wow, cry the

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<v Speaker 1>destruction of the diorama was the nicest thing this man

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<v Speaker 1>did to Stabler, Like he literally made him cry and

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<v Speaker 1>then beat him. And he said, because only pansies cry,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stabler is bawling. Okay, I don't remember this part

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode, like I remember this steroid episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't remember this opening up of Stabler and

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<v Speaker 1>the dad. He goes, my dad said I was weak.

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<v Speaker 1>He called me a failure all the time. So what

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<v Speaker 1>did you see in the mirror today, she asked, and Stabler,

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<v Speaker 1>like face covered in tears, said I saw the guy

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<v Speaker 1>my father always saw. And she goes, you're not. You're

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<v Speaker 1>so busy being strong and helping everyone, You've got nothing

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<v Speaker 1>left for yourself. She goes, It takes a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>balls to talk about your problems than to beat the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of a ghost.

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<v Speaker 4>Put it on a T shirt, beat the hell out of.

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<v Speaker 1>A put that on every single toxic masculinity podcast that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, you can go ahead trying to prove

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<v Speaker 1>what a big man you are, or you can just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking talk about your problems and work through your trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I think what's so wild about this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>it's the most dramatic episode we've ever seen from Christopher Maloney.

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<v Speaker 1>And this episode is right after It's the episode directly

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<v Speaker 1>after nine to one one, which is the episode where

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<v Speaker 1>Marishka won the Emmy. He is nominated in two thousand

1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and six for playing Elliott Stabler, but he now here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was looking up.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, give me one such episode. It was that

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<v Speaker 4>they submitted yes, because Ford week this for her.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's nine to one one, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why on the on the Wikipedia, it doesn't show

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<v Speaker 1>you what episodes they're nominated for. Yeah, she was nominated

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<v Speaker 1>in four, five, one, and O six, was nominated in seven, eight, nine, ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven. He was only nominated in O six and

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<v Speaker 1>he lost to Key for Sutherland for twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's also interesting is that, like two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>five is around when I was working at the USA

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<v Speaker 1>Network and I would get all this like free crap

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<v Speaker 1>at work. And that's why I have a get a

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<v Speaker 1>Clue vote SVU magnet on my fridge, which I will

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<v Speaker 1>take a picture of and post on our stories. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have that magnet because that was the year they

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<v Speaker 1>were like really pushing for SVU to win, to get nominated,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like cause really whenever anyone's nominated for

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<v Speaker 1>these things, we all know it's like it's a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>from the network. It's not like the nominating committee is

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<v Speaker 1>going through and actually being like, what a wonderful performance?

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<v Speaker 1>Has anyone else seen this? It's like the network's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>money behind it. So it's interesting. I wonder if if

1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Maloney is like bitter that she was nominated so many

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<v Speaker 1>seasons and he wasn't, and the one that he did,

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<v Speaker 1>he did do this crying episode right, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were giving them a lot of juice in season

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<v Speaker 1>seven trying to get those awards. But yeah, he hasn't

1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:19.960
<v Speaker 1>won like any awards. She won a Golden Globe. Also,

1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:22.519
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't won anything, which awards are bullshit. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great actor. But I just think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how I feel like people just really related to

1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:32.840
<v Speaker 1>her character and he is kind of just playing a

1:10:32.880 --> 1:10:34.680
<v Speaker 1>guy we've seen before. She's a little bit more of

1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:39.479
<v Speaker 1>an interesting character. He's like a cop who doesn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his feelings. We've seen it, you know, so but

1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:46.120
<v Speaker 1>here we got a lot of feelings. So this scene

1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:50.719
<v Speaker 1>just ends with that amazing quote about the ghost. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're at the Breslan residence in Riverdale, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a section of the Bronx, and Stabler is

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<v Speaker 1>walking up to the front door when he notices a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet hole in a window, so he draws his weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Music gets ominous. He enters the home. He immediately finds

1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Pete the dad, lying bloody on the floor. He shakes

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<v Speaker 1>him he's and he's still alive, and Stabler calls it

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<v Speaker 1>in and then we're fade to commercial.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So Stabler's in the ambulance on.

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<v Speaker 1>His way to the hospital with Pete, and Pete mumbles,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even get that right, and Stabler's like, get

1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:29.639
<v Speaker 1>what right? And he goes blowing my brains out. Sabler says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you didn't, and he goes, Luke's a great kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all my fault. And then he starts flatlining and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy go the EMT's like he's in cardiac arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>but he gets him back online really quickly, like he's

1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:42.519
<v Speaker 1>immediately back online, and he goes, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like my chest is about to explode.

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<v Speaker 1>The EMT goes, well, his pulse is racing and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know why. I've never seen this before, and

1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Stabler's like, stay with me. And so at the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>we've got doctor Kyle Beresford, or as I like to

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<v Speaker 1>call him surfer doc, the you know, the Cali bro

1:11:58.479 --> 1:12:00.600
<v Speaker 1>who's a dock at a New york Er And he

1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:03.360
<v Speaker 1>tells Stabler the bullet lodged and his skull never hit

1:12:03.400 --> 1:12:06.720
<v Speaker 1>his brain, so it's like a miracle. He'll survive the

1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:10.200
<v Speaker 1>gunshot wound. But his heart is another story. He had

1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a reaction to the epinephrin that the medics gave him,

1:12:13.320 --> 1:12:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and that means there must have been something else in

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<v Speaker 1>his system, which the guy goes, my guess is steroids,

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<v Speaker 1>and what the fuck? Like that is a twist?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes the bloodwork show testosterone was elevated, so

1:12:25.960 --> 1:12:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Craigan walks in. Stabler's about to explain himself, but Daddy

1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Craigan stops him and goes, I got a call from

1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom lawyer. He said, how you stopped Pete from

1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:39.080
<v Speaker 1>killing Luke? And you know, good work. And Stabler's like,

1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you were right to send me home over the handling

1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of this Luke situation. I was out of control, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know I'm dealing with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, if you have trouble dealing with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you come to my office or you called me and

1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Stabler nods and he's like, let me wait for Pete

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up, and then he tells Craigan about the steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>Munch and Finn are at the Breslen house. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>him check for the drugs. So in Pete's hospital room,

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<v Speaker 1>Sablor walks in. Pete goes, well, you want to kiss

1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:05.040
<v Speaker 1>for saving my life? You can forget about it, and

1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Stable goes, I'll settle for a hug.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're best friends again.

1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:10.559
<v Speaker 1>We've forgotten that this man was brutally beating his son

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<v Speaker 1>and he also takes steroids, and he was screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>him for doing something that he himself does and he asks,

1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:20.880
<v Speaker 1>he asks, how long have you been taking steroids? And

1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Pete's like, well, remember that highway cop last year on

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<v Speaker 1>Saten Island. The purp took his gun and shot him.

1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, that was my partner after you, he

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<v Speaker 1>got soft and got himself killed.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't going to let that happen. Ah, yeah, yi,

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

1:13:36.240 --> 1:13:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Stabler goes taking roids to keep your edge on the

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<v Speaker 1>street and he's like, are you gonna tell my CEO?

1:13:41.520 --> 1:13:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, but dude, are you a cop or not?

1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Like they fully obviously have gone to your house. They

1:13:45.960 --> 1:13:48.400
<v Speaker 1>found your stash. There's no way to keep that quiet.

1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Stable tells him that, and he goes, well, it was

1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:52.720
<v Speaker 1>bound to happen after our fight. I knew I was

1:13:52.760 --> 1:13:54.479
<v Speaker 1>going to get fired and lose my pension. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to take my own life. And Stabler goes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't lie to me. Where the powder burns on the

1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:04.920
<v Speaker 1>side of your head? Where's Luke? And he goes, he's

1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:08.479
<v Speaker 1>my son, and Benson walks in to pull Stabler out.

1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So we are to believe that this man was shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the head non fatally, somehow was able to stage

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<v Speaker 1>it as a suicide. Was there a gun by him?

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there a gun by him? But then also when

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<v Speaker 1>he wakes up in the ambulance, he's got a story.

1:14:30.560 --> 1:14:33.680
<v Speaker 1>He's ready to go, oh that's why I fucked. I

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<v Speaker 1>mess this up to my suicide attempt, you know, like yeh,

1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:42.599
<v Speaker 1>it's just like okay, all right, but okay. So outside

1:14:42.640 --> 1:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the hospital room, Benson tells Stabler, we found Luke's print

1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:48.360
<v Speaker 1>on the trigger of the gun. So Craigan told her

1:14:48.479 --> 1:14:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to go get Stabler before they pick up Luke because

1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:53.599
<v Speaker 1>he might be armed or roided out, and his father's

1:14:53.680 --> 1:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>duty weapon is missing, and Luke and Pamela are also

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<v Speaker 1>both absent from.

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<v Speaker 4>School, so this is not good. And it's in a

1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Stabler pull up to.

1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:06.600
<v Speaker 1>This house and it's Pamela's house, but we find that

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<v Speaker 1>out later, and there are tons of uniform cops outside.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a call about someone inside with a gun. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so they knock on the door, no one answers, they

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<v Speaker 1>go in. They go upstairs slowly, you know, it's very tense.

1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:18.000
<v Speaker 1>A bedroom door is open. We see Pamela sitting on

1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the bed looking terrified, looking in a direction off the

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<v Speaker 1>off camera that we can't see.

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<v Speaker 4>We're Pamela, she's at a rough couple days.

1:15:25.200 --> 1:15:28.519
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know her bestie is rooted out and

1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:31.680
<v Speaker 1>she didn't know, so we can't see him, but we

1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:33.760
<v Speaker 1>can tell it's Luke right, he's in the room. She

1:15:33.880 --> 1:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>confirms to Benson with kind of like a nod and

1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a look that he has a gun. And then he

1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:40.160
<v Speaker 1>goes who's out there, and Stabler identifies himself. He's like,

1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming in unarmed, and Luke is just like slumped

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<v Speaker 1>against the wall of Pamela's room with a gun. Points

1:15:45.320 --> 1:15:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it at his chest, so he just says, leave me alone,

1:15:47.960 --> 1:15:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and Pamela's like, please, don't do this, Luke. And then

1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Benson Grahams grabs Pamela out of the room and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>come with me. Let's let the boys talk. And then

1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Luke is like, I'm sick of talking, and Stabler's like,

1:15:57.520 --> 1:15:59.479
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I actually just came here to apologize for

1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:01.320
<v Speaker 1>what I did, your dad, And Luke's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Not as bad as what I did, and Stabler's like,

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<v Speaker 4>what did you do?

1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:05.519
<v Speaker 1>And he goes well, after court, I went to my

1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:07.240
<v Speaker 1>aunt's house, but I wanted to talk to my dad,

1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:09.320
<v Speaker 1>so I went home and then he just laid into

1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:11.720
<v Speaker 1>me about the steroids again, and I said, you can't

1:16:11.720 --> 1:16:14.640
<v Speaker 1>stop making me take them if you're taking them yourself.

1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:16.679
<v Speaker 1>It's it's giving. I learned it from watching you dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know those Yeah? Those old no, but it's

1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:23.280
<v Speaker 1>obviously that. Yeah, there were these old commercials about drugs

1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that were like, what did you learn about this stuff?

1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I learned it from watching you Dad.

1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It was this dramatic thing that we used to say

1:16:29.439 --> 1:16:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it like on the playground all the time. It was like,

1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you know it was from that This is your brain

1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:36.879
<v Speaker 1>on drugs era of like PSAs about drugs.

1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:37.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's the flattened out pancake stoner that I

1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:46.519
<v Speaker 2>have become. I don't know if I've seen that one,

1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But you didn't see flat pancake girl who didn't pick

1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:54.120
<v Speaker 2>up her sister from soccer practice, way like laying on

1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:58.800
<v Speaker 2>the couch. Google Like, okay, let me try flat flalat

1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:06.639
<v Speaker 2>pancake girl and mine s Ai Jesus Christ still won't

1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:08.240
<v Speaker 2>stop there she is.

1:17:08.800 --> 1:17:10.679
<v Speaker 4>Oh do you see her? Yes?

1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You know why?

1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:16.519
<v Speaker 1>It's because yours came out in like it says, this

1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:19.880
<v Speaker 1>one came out in like the two thousands.

1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I remember the egg, I remember the Rachel

1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Lee Cook but I defin Oh my god, there's a

1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:27.000
<v Speaker 2>shirt deflated girl from anti weed PSA.

1:17:28.080 --> 1:17:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Of course you can't buy it. You can't buy it.

1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:35.320
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that makes sense. Flat girl is like more

1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:37.519
<v Speaker 1>would have hit you as a youth, whereas I learned

1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it from watching you.

1:17:38.320 --> 1:17:43.439
<v Speaker 4>Dad is more my time. Yeah, but I like that.

1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Dad. So he tells Stabler that the juice he was

1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:52.880
<v Speaker 2>taking he stole from his dad.

1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Dude, you're like an idiot cop that takes steroids. You

1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:58.559
<v Speaker 1>can't hide it well enough from your fucking son. But

1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:01.880
<v Speaker 1>then you also let your roid rage scream at your

1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:03.599
<v Speaker 1>son all the time for not being good enough, even

1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>though he is good enough. It's very confusing because are

1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you always mad when you're roid raging it? Or I

1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.080
<v Speaker 1>mean when you're taking Yes, you are. You're mad about

1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:15.479
<v Speaker 1>when you're taking the steroids, and then you're depressed when

1:18:15.520 --> 1:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you get off the steroids.

1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay, got it? So anyway, not good.

1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:21.879
<v Speaker 1>When he told his dad that he was stealing his steroids,

1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>instead of having one fucking minute of introspection, the cop goes,

1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:27.680
<v Speaker 1>get out, get out of the house, the dad and

1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he was so mad, Luke says, So he went and

1:18:30.640 --> 1:18:33.320
<v Speaker 1>grabbed his old gun and I said, Dad, look at me,

1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.559
<v Speaker 1>look at me, And he wouldn't look at him. And

1:18:35.600 --> 1:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the next thing he knew, another little blackout, another little

1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:42.360
<v Speaker 1>rage blackout. He's lying on the floor bleeding. Can I

1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>also just say, though, why does he keep having these

1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:48.000
<v Speaker 1>roid induced blackouts if he's not taken the roids in

1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.479
<v Speaker 1>a week and a half. He says he hasn't taken them,

1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:52.880
<v Speaker 1>so why are the blackouts happening with the rage? I

1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:56.400
<v Speaker 1>thought that was from the elevated testosterone. I'm just confused

1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>about the I need our medical community to rise up

1:18:59.640 --> 1:19:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and tell me what was happening here. Like you're either

1:19:01.920 --> 1:19:04.799
<v Speaker 1>like like you're blacked out taking roids or you're depressed

1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:06.479
<v Speaker 1>because you stop taking the roids, So I don't really

1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:09.360
<v Speaker 1>know anyway. The next thing I know, he goes he's

1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>lying on the floor and he goes, he was right.

1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I am a failure and Stabler goes, no, you're not.

1:19:14.360 --> 1:19:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I know you're scared. You think this is the only

1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>way out, but it's not. It's the steroids. When did

1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you last take them? And he goes over a week ago.

1:19:22.560 --> 1:19:24.919
<v Speaker 1>He goes, you're going through withdrawal. That's why you're depressed.

1:19:24.960 --> 1:19:27.639
<v Speaker 1>And looks like okay, fair, But I murdered my father

1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and Sabler's like, good news, he's alive and looks like

1:19:30.680 --> 1:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you're lying.

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:32.320
<v Speaker 4>I shot him in the head.

1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And Stabler's like, you're good at baseball and pitching, you're

1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:35.799
<v Speaker 1>terrible at shooting guns.

1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:37.200
<v Speaker 4>You only grazed him.

1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna he's gonna be okay, and looks like but

1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:41.519
<v Speaker 1>there was so much blood. Sabler goes, I talked to

1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.160
<v Speaker 1>him an hour ago. He's sorry. He says, it's all

1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:46.240
<v Speaker 1>his fault. You're the only good thing in his life.

1:19:46.479 --> 1:19:47.120
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess the steroids drained from his system very quickly,

1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and now he likes his son again.

1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm confused. Luke, the near death experience helped him out.

1:19:55.600 --> 1:19:58.439
<v Speaker 1>The adrenaline from the near death, the epinephrin maybe cleared

1:19:58.439 --> 1:20:00.599
<v Speaker 1>out all the roids, and he felt like, actually, oh wait,

1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:03.479
<v Speaker 1>I forgot I have like a really cute son who's

1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>good at sports and has friends in school and good

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.280
<v Speaker 1>at school, and I just shouldn't be beating him up.

1:20:09.280 --> 1:20:11.479
<v Speaker 1>So Luke's like, I don't believe it, and Stabler goes,

1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you can tell him yourself, as he gently takes the

1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>gun away. Stabler and Bens didn't share a look, and

1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:20.400
<v Speaker 1>then we see Luke walking into the hospital room. He

1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>sees his dad lying there. He's got the square bandage

1:20:23.160 --> 1:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on the side, not in all the way around. Unfortunately,

1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:28.280
<v Speaker 1>they hug. Pete says I'm sorry. He kisses the side

1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:31.439
<v Speaker 1>of his son's head, and that's dick wolf baby. These

1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>two little roydsters are just gonna work it out. I

1:20:33.800 --> 1:20:36.880
<v Speaker 1>guess they're just both good detox from being on steroids

1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:38.559
<v Speaker 1>together and live life as normal men.

1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And do you think they'll reminisce and me like, hey, dad,

1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:44.519
<v Speaker 2>remember when you beat the shit out of me and

1:20:44.560 --> 1:20:48.200
<v Speaker 2>tried to murder me and you know I was doing

1:20:48.280 --> 1:20:51.360
<v Speaker 2>just what you were doing and you beat me up.

1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Like I like what the fuck? Yeah?

1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy's blaming drugs, but like this dad's bad news. Yeah,

1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.879
<v Speaker 2>the rules bet for him. He wants, you know, attempted

1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the homicide of his child. Like I don't get it.

1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I fucking hate his ass.

1:21:07.200 --> 1:21:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's also like he was like, you can't be

1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:12.759
<v Speaker 1>a real man without drugs, and now the whole world knows,

1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that would have made sense to me as a

1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>character who's like Who's like, I just don't want that's

1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:22.200
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing, Like that has some kind of embarrassment around.

1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:24.559
<v Speaker 1>You're not a real man because you took drugs. You're

1:21:24.640 --> 1:21:27.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that too, and you know you are. You're not

1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.080
<v Speaker 1>blacking out that you did that. You're not forgetting details

1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of your life that happen every day when you take

1:21:32.080 --> 1:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>steroids or I don't know how often you take them.

1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:35.240
<v Speaker 4>But you know he's not a man.

1:21:35.479 --> 1:21:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But on in two thousand and six. In two

1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:41.959
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, around the time that this is happening,

1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the ongoing Balco scandal, which is mostly Major League

1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Baseball MLB launched their own investigation called the Mitchell Report,

1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>where so basically SVU obviously doing things usually that are

1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in the zeitgeist.

1:21:57.840 --> 1:21:59.160
<v Speaker 4>They're talking about steroids.

1:21:59.600 --> 1:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that because that's what I'm saying

1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>when I talk about current seasons. If this was a

1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>current season topic of conversation, it would be a professional

1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>MLB player. But because old school SBU used to be

1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:13.519
<v Speaker 1>about regular people, they make it about a high school

1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>kid playing baseball and a cop taking steroids, you know,

1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you like that, and I like that.

1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I like that, That's what it was about. I don't

1:22:22.040 --> 1:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>need to actually get into MLB players taking steroids.

1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Boohoo.

1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean whatever, Well, it's interesting you say that. We're

1:22:29.920 --> 1:22:31.599
<v Speaker 2>actually going to talk about that a little bit.

1:22:31.920 --> 1:22:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's The Life and Unfortunate, you know, Taylor death

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<v Speaker 2>of Taylor Houghton.

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<v Speaker 4>It's uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He was from Plaano, West Texas, which is an affluent

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<v Speaker 2>area of North Dallas. And you know, like the show,

1:22:54.320 --> 1:22:57.519
<v Speaker 2>he was popular, He was filled with excitement, was counted

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<v Speaker 2>on by his high school baseball team to throw strikes.

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<v Speaker 4>He was good at baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was the summer before his senior year, July fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did take his own life just a month

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<v Speaker 2>past the seventeenth birthday. And his family and doctors believe

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<v Speaker 2>that Taylor's death was related to the depression he felt

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<v Speaker 2>when he stopped taking anabolic steroids. So you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode, there's a sense of euphoria and then

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<v Speaker 2>aggression that accompany the use of steroids became lethargy.

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<v Speaker 4>It should be lethargy, right.

1:23:29.560 --> 1:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Because it is lethartic.

1:23:31.080 --> 1:23:34.080
<v Speaker 4>But I feel like lethargy. I don't know, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, Stop trying to sound smart New York Times, like

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<v Speaker 2>use a chill word. He got sleepy, Okay, like unfortunately

1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.280
<v Speaker 2>he be but yeah, he loss of energy, loss of confidence,

1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:47.040
<v Speaker 2>melancholy and then hopelessness.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Larry W.

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbons, he's the president or was at a medical director

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cooper Aerobic Center, and he said that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a kid that was well liked, good friends, no

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<v Speaker 2>serious emotional problems, bright future.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a paraphrase from the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>His father, Dawn, said that he was showing all the symptoms,

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<v Speaker 2>but like we didn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 4>We should have. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, if you don't know the symptoms and what

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking out for, you don't know. But looking back,

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<v Speaker 2>the dad said that like he had every you know,

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<v Speaker 2>acne on his back. He was aggressive, irritable, He flew

1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>into rages. I'm like, I besides the acne, I'm like,

1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>is this me? My aunt stere its, but then tearfully apologetic.

1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>He took several hundred dollars from his parents' bank account

1:24:38.040 --> 1:24:41.360
<v Speaker 2>without permission. He would pound the floor with his fists

1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>and anger. He injured a knuckle once punching a wall,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after his death, his family learned that Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>had hurled a phone through a wall and hid the

1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>damage behind a picture, and also pummeled his girlfriend's former boyfriend,

1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.759
<v Speaker 2>who required stitches to close a wound.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>None of his friends alerted an adult, though, because even

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<v Speaker 2>though his parents did test him for drugs, eventually it

1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>came back negative because they tested for recreational drugs, not steroids.

1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, see, I wasn't doing anything but

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<v Speaker 2>his behavior became alarming, and they went on a family

1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>vacation and he stole a digital camera and laptop on

1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the trip to England, and when they came home, the

1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:27.519
<v Speaker 2>family confronted him about it and he was grounded. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the next morning, Taylor asked his mom to lift

1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the punishment and she said no, and he went upstairs

1:25:33.439 --> 1:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately hung himself in his room. My god, And

1:25:40.160 --> 1:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you were saying, we're so focused on

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<v Speaker 2>professional athletes that we forget that only a few pros

1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>engage in this. But high school students are susceptible to

1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:53.479
<v Speaker 2>all of this and all these issues. And since high

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<v Speaker 2>school aged kids by nature are less likely to understand

1:25:56.080 --> 1:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>or be concerned with potential side effects like infertility, trophied testicles,

1:26:01.479 --> 1:26:06.479
<v Speaker 2>high blood pressure, liver damage, prostate cancer, it stops bone growth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really wild. So as a kid, you're not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about this. As as an adult or parent, you're probably

1:26:11.439 --> 1:26:14.320
<v Speaker 2>not really thinking about you know, you don't know about

1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the kid's balls.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>But elite athletes also understand the side effects. They can

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<v Speaker 2>also afford to pay for the real stuff, But kids

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the knowledge, and they buy it from some clown.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's said by doctor Donald A. Malone, a psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 2>at Cleveland Clinic, who in nineteen ninety five did a

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<v Speaker 2>study indicating an association between depression and steroid use. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like they get it from clowns at school

1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>and parents are clueless about the signs of steroid use,

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<v Speaker 2>and some parents even encourage it in an attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>help promote their kids' careers, not really thinking about long

1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>term as well. And then headlines are better with superstars,

1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:57.960
<v Speaker 2>but the underbelly is a serious problem, and parents are

1:26:58.200 --> 1:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>proud of their kid for bulking up and don't really

1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and they see their kid working out, so they just

1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>put that together in their heads and so yeah, and

1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>then it's sad and a boy died and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking bummer, I mean to be grounded for a

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<v Speaker 2>day because you did steal a laptop and phone. And

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, it's so scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I heard maybe it was Joel Kim

1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Booster talking about this with Katya. It was on Tricks

1:27:24.800 --> 1:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and Katya's podcast. I think it was when Joel went

1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on and they talked about steroids and about how like

1:27:30.200 --> 1:27:32.719
<v Speaker 1>so many gay men are on circuits. They were saying

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<v Speaker 1>of steroids and because you know, there's like a pressure

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<v Speaker 1>in sections of the gay community to be like jacked

1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and muscleee and stuff, and yeah, it's like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be it's just uh, it cannot be good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's sad, and I'm sorry, I don't have more information.

1:27:52.720 --> 1:27:56.599
<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of like memorials and stuff and

1:27:57.439 --> 1:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>like just people liked him, but there was only one

1:28:01.600 --> 1:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>real news story, yeah to really get into Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>but it's definitely fucking sad and it probably wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>even been reported on if it wasn't that steroids were

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<v Speaker 2>so huge in the conversation at the time, you know,

1:28:20.880 --> 1:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like I don't think kids taking their like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time that doesn't get reported on, you know,

1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but it was like, wow, yeah, it says, well, the Internet,

1:28:34.080 --> 1:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is true, says that the

1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>peak of the steroids era, that the steroids era is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four to two thousand and four. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think around the time of this episode is when like

1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the reckoning starts happening, where everybody starts getting like the

1:28:49.800 --> 1:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>celebrities at least start getting busted but now it feels

1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of just like a common thing among

1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>people trying to get to work out and get big.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, just everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not playing Superman in a movie, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need steroids.

1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, unless you're in the WWE.

1:29:13.439 --> 1:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And even if you a man, yeah because like because

1:29:18.120 --> 1:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're playing Superman in a movie, the studio is

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<v Speaker 2>paying for you to have a trainer and a chef,

1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and like there they are make they will make.

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<v Speaker 1>Your body look how they wanted to look. You know,

1:29:25.800 --> 1:29:27.559
<v Speaker 1>you just have to work with them and work hard

1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>as hell.

1:29:27.960 --> 1:29:28.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure.

1:29:28.560 --> 1:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>But everybody trying to get swollen? Okay, yeah, everyone be

1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:37.679
<v Speaker 2>careful out there. And that supplements came up too. It's

1:29:37.760 --> 1:29:38.839
<v Speaker 2>like kind of.

1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:42.519
<v Speaker 4>God, the supplement industry is so wild.

1:29:43.280 --> 1:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's no guests today, so let's get right

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<v Speaker 1>into our post mortem.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I mean I forgot.

1:29:55.000 --> 1:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of forgot about steroids and they are really risky.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't You don't think guys saw my nephew and

1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>gave him a speech. You don't think I gave him

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<v Speaker 2>a speech last week?

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<v Speaker 4>What did he say? Has he thought about it?

1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Do you don't think I was so graphic.

1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I was. He's like, I'm not, but I want to

1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:11.639
<v Speaker 2>like all this stuff, and I go, but then you'll

1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>get depressed and you could hang yourself in your room.

1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>He was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm like, well,

1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:17.599
<v Speaker 2>this kid didn't think that either.

1:30:17.720 --> 1:30:20.439
<v Speaker 4>You don't know that. We don't know.

1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, and when you go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you don't do anything, if you see a

1:30:25.360 --> 1:30:28.439
<v Speaker 2>girl getting assaulted at your weird frats, I go, you

1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>do something, or you're a part of the culture. He's like, okay, okay,

1:30:35.479 --> 1:30:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I gave a huge speech. Yeah, someone's got to do

1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, he talked to me for so long.

1:30:41.160 --> 1:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>It was actually a huge week for me last week, Like, wow, yeah,

1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you got one of them texting you, one of them

1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>talking to you. Yeah, we taught. We sat and talked

1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:52.679
<v Speaker 2>for like an hour. It was so exciting in my parents' kitchen.

1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>So that was the Wow. Yeah, okay, they're coming around.

1:30:56.160 --> 1:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just the it's the ups and downs of teens

1:30:59.520 --> 1:31:00.759
<v Speaker 1>being too cool for school.

1:31:02.360 --> 1:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, no, I it's it's fucked. You can

1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:10.559
<v Speaker 2>do it through excert, like because he enjoyed the work

1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I just it's upsetting.

1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's up setting, and they think everyone's on steroids,

1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>like your friend Kumel and I go, I swear I don't.

1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I heard he didn't do it. I have sources he didn't.

1:31:21.400 --> 1:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And my nephew does not believe it.

1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:26.160
<v Speaker 4>No, because nobody can. Nobody can believe that.

1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Like someone who was once like very small, like not

1:31:28.760 --> 1:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>not very small, but smaller, is like so big with

1:31:31.720 --> 1:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's like he worked so fucking hard and had

1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Marvel giving him a trainer and a chef, like, come on,

1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it can happen, but then you got to maintain it,

1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>which is what he's been doing.

1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I feel like in general, it just

1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense. It's like just do But you know,

1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm a door I'm a corny person. I feel like

1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the journey is always the whole point. Like he enjoys

1:31:58.040 --> 1:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>going to the gym. I'm like, if you enjoy it,

1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>do the thing, that's the whole point. All those other

1:32:03.120 --> 1:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>things are for other people. I'm like, you like to

1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>do it, it's a right. But these guys right each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's true or not, because I'm

1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>not like a nutritionist or like a physiologist. But like

1:32:16.640 --> 1:32:18.559
<v Speaker 1>they will tell each other, it doesn't matter how much

1:32:18.560 --> 1:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you go to the gym, like you will hit a ceiling,

1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like you can only get to like sure huge, like

1:32:24.200 --> 1:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>the hugeness of whatever being a bodybuilder or well then

1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>go to therapy. Yeah exactly, that's the thing. Why do

1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to get that?

1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you're a peak physical performance doing every that's your peak?

1:32:37.200 --> 1:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't I mean whatever, or do steroids, shrinker balls,

1:32:41.880 --> 1:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>beat up your backnee, get back mee, beat the shit

1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:45.679
<v Speaker 2>out of your friend.

1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, don't remember anything.

1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Like shoot your dad almost missing him and barely miss him.

1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what do I know? What do I know?

1:32:53.680 --> 1:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

1:32:54.320 --> 1:32:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Do the things?

1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess with adults, it's like you're doing your adult decisions.

1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's like scary for kids to be doing it.

1:33:00.040 --> 1:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>That parents would encourage their kids to do it, Like

1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>all of it is just unsettling to me.

1:33:05.840 --> 1:33:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and for sports, but you know, not.

1:33:11.640 --> 1:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>To bring it back to heated rivalry, but like a

1:33:13.880 --> 1:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of people in a positive way are going to

1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the gym, Like people are feeling different, people are like

1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>chem I mean, also, my phone is feeding me things

1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to see. But the psychologist is like, I

1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>feel the happiness of the show is really cracking something

1:33:26.439 --> 1:33:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in people's brains.

1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's doing push ups, going to the gym.

1:33:30.080 --> 1:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I saw people being like, I'm going on dates now,

1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I think people are like really into it and

1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it's bringing my nice is going to a party like

1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>all these bar parties where it's like mixes them.

1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:40.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to the cottage.

1:33:40.240 --> 1:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I went to the soul cycle class, like

1:33:42.640 --> 1:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>we were all so happy to be there, like anything, Like,

1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>not only is the show such a creative thing, it

1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>feels like it's really giving something to a lot of

1:33:50.920 --> 1:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>people in different ways.

1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:54.520
<v Speaker 4>But some of it is going to the gym.

1:33:55.080 --> 1:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>What I like about the guys too, is like they

1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>don't look like mass his meat head athletes when they're

1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>just in clothes, right, Like, they don't look like that

1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:05.959
<v Speaker 1>when they're just walking.

1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Around in clothes.

1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>And he's like meeting his parents to talk about Rolex

1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, Like he just looks like a college guy, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't look like the best hockey player in a country,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then he takes off his clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, I see it now, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>There's literally like or like the tight shirt runnings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah when yeah, like they they look they look really good.

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<v Speaker 4>They look very good, very they look very healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh all right, work yeah, I don't know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>do the sports. Yeah yeah, but I don't know. Stay

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<v Speaker 2>away from stay away from the juice. Don't don't get

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<v Speaker 2>don't juice it up, chick, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, look someone gave me an opal labuoboo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. I don't know if it's opal. I've made

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<v Speaker 2>that up, but it's something cool. It's Opa light. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cool. That's very cute.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. I like that someone gave it to you,

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<v Speaker 4>but you didn't buy it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've been actually really good outside the CA top.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not gone out to like a dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to like lay low with the finances right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not and I've challenged myself. I've been going

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<v Speaker 2>I've wanted to do stuff. Yeah yeah, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested. I'm not interested in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually. Yeah that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like I've been just sort of I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have not had a single I'm not doing dry January

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<v Speaker 1>or stopping drinking or anything like that. I just have

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<v Speaker 1>drink it more today. I it's been a week since

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<v Speaker 1>I had a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh for me, I actually just stopped fully eating

1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and I've only been drinking.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not going out to eat, but I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'll have three Vaka sodas, get blacked.

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<v Speaker 4>Out and go home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting that for the masses, that's not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that that's yeah to do. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's the right thing to do. I'm saying we're all

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<v Speaker 2>holding on.

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<v Speaker 4>How we're holding on. For me, I'm starving until i

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<v Speaker 4>can get drunk off two drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about the wine that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have tonight at my show all week for a week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So trust me, I'm not like, Wow, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think about it. Life just feels easier. No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it all the time, and I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>wine again. But I'm trying to I'm trying to break

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<v Speaker 1>the association of like every time I cook a meal,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a little glass of wine. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to do that every single time, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't like cooking and it makes it feel

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<v Speaker 1>more fun and I need to just suck it up

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<v Speaker 1>and make a quick dinner and not you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>to have wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we could each have our different goals and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah for me, Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>chill a little bit. But I'm not off. I like

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, let's get into what would Sister Peg do?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>This is our weekly segment where we try to give

1:36:52.080 --> 1:36:54.559
<v Speaker 1>you some more information about what we talked about in

1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the episode, whether it's a documentary or a blog or Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to interrupt myself. This is usually the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you interrupt me is right when I'm about to

1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>get into sister Peg. But Nancy Schwartzman messaged me and

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<v Speaker 1>I shared it on the Instagram for that's messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>But they apparently federal prosecutors are looking back into Ellen

1:37:15.960 --> 1:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Greenberg's case. So her documentary made a difference and hopefully

1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>there will be some justice for Ellen. But I just

1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw that out there. But what would mister

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<v Speaker 1>Peg do? Our weekly segment blog organization where you can

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<v Speaker 1>donate article you can read, just to give you more info.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Lord knows.

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<v Speaker 1>We are certainly not any kind of encyclopedia around here.

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<v Speaker 1>And this week I wanted to point you to an

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<v Speaker 1>article from the Mayo Clinic titled Performance Enhancing Drugs, Know

1:37:41.439 --> 1:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the Risks. This article has a ton of info about

1:37:43.720 --> 1:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>anabolic steroids, human growth hormone, creatine, and many other drugs.

1:37:47.640 --> 1:37:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It features definitions and risks and the bottom line of

1:37:51.720 --> 1:37:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the article is doping is bad for you. But go

1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>ahead and read it. And I mean even we didn't

1:37:56.320 --> 1:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>know the difference between HGH and steroids. Just to know, yeah,

1:38:01.200 --> 1:38:03.479
<v Speaker 1>just to know more of the differences. You can head

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<v Speaker 1>over to Mayoclinic dot org and that article will be

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, and thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You also everybody for your your Thank you everybody for

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<v Speaker 2>your advice on my planter fash itis.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate it. I've been getting a lot of advice, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>My insuls have changed my life my pain has gone

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<v Speaker 2>down significantly.

1:38:42.320 --> 1:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing everything that p Dietrist told me, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still having a bunch of pains.

1:38:46.200 --> 1:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Well now, now listen, I'm not saying, like my dad says,

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<v Speaker 2>humans aren't cars. You don't just switch apart and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels better. Yeah, it's a journey. Yeah, it's a journey.

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<v Speaker 2>You you it takes a while to get Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 2>my skin is back to being fully inflamed. So who

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<v Speaker 2>knows what I was?

1:39:06.520 --> 1:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>God? I'm like, I'm like, you know, you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what you got till it's gone.

1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't realize how much I missed sense, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I really am going crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I am really really sad.

1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like really sad that I don't get to hear

1:39:16.680 --> 1:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>perfume and that my skin.

1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:22.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, was it the towel at the gym? Was

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<v Speaker 4>it my parents sheet?

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Miss this was it?

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<v Speaker 2>This? Did I wash my hair here? Was it the

1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>dry shampoo? And I'm just like, I have eliminated so

1:39:30.080 --> 1:39:31.799
<v Speaker 2>much for my life? Why am I inflamed?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Whatever, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares Next week, but we'll be watching Spooked season eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>episode six, So that's pretty exciting watch it. We'll see

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