1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in final hour of the program, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Monday edition. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: wherever you may be, however you might be listening, whether 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: it's on the five hundred summadd AMFM affiliates all over 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: this country, whether it is on the tens of millions 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: of monthly downloads. We encourage and respect any way that 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you can possibly consume the show. Would like for you 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: to go subscribe on YouTube. Type in my name Clay Travis, 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: type in Buck Sexton. You will find your way to 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: subscribe there as well. And I'm going to keep hammering 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: this home. A great way to reach the kids and 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: grandkids because that is where they spend a substantial portion 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: of their time. So you can find this on pretty 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: much any platform. Encourage you to do so. Now, over 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: the weekend was the White House Correspondence Dinner, and it 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: felt to me like this was being covered even more 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: aggressively than maybe in past years. Potentially I think because 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: they're obviously during COVID were a couple of years when 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: this was not taking place. So I'll start with this question. No, 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, I've never been invited, 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: would you go if you were invited? 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: I was. I was there my first ever year working 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: in media for The Blaze in twenty eleven. 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So what was it like? 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: It stinks? It's not fun. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Like, I know, like, how many people are in the room. 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: You were a cu guy huge? It was a gala. 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: You know, Obama obviously spoke. I didn't even just so 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't even stay for the Obama speech. 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: I left and got drunk with a bunch of BuzzFeed 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: underpaid employees. That's what I did, So I bounced. 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to say I wouldn't go, because inevitably 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: somebody will grabbed this clip and they'll be like, oh, 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: look at what a huge hypocrite Klay Travis is. I've 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: never been invited, so I'd never have had to make 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: the choice of whether or not I would go. And 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know when I would be invited who the 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: president might be, right, But I. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't invited, like because I was cool. Are we had 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: a table? Basically? Yeah, I think and and like people 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to go, and I was like, well because 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: a lot of them lived in you know, other places 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: in Texas. Whatever. I was like, well, I'll go check 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: it out. I've never been back since, never wanted to 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: go back since it's just like, first of all, I'm 47 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: not a Galla guy in general. I'll just say now 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I'll never go to Galas, so don't 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: you know, don't hold me to that. But generally speaking, 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm not a big gallop person. But also there's something 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: very weird. 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: You know. 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: They used to call it nerd prom, like, uh, it's 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: nerd prom, this pseudo self deprecation. They don't think they're nerds. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: They think they're really cool and they think what they're 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: doing is really important, and they're all in the cool 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: kid club. And if you're there as a conservative, you're 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: like a You're like a you know, a zoo animal. 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: To them, they're like, what are you doing here? So 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: it's not good. 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I I got picked on by my wife, as I 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: usually do, because I did not dress well for the 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: wedding we went to this weekend, so I'm sure that 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: I would dress poorly for the White House correspondence the 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: last time, did you no no no flip flops, no 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: flip flops? But I did not wear a suit first. 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I was one hundred and eighty degrees in Las Vegas, 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: so and it was an afternoon wedding, and I was like, 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna die if you have to wear a suit coat. 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: So this is going on? Is this the first time 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Biden has spoken at the White House Correspondence Center? Did 72 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: he speak last year? They were so terrified of COVID 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: that I can't even keep up with when they had it, 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: when they didn't, I know, they didn't have it for 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: a couple of years basically. And then Fauci got caught. 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Of course, Fauci's there. Fauci got caught going to the 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: like the pre and post parties or whatever after making 78 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: did he make a big deal about the fact that 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to go to the White House Correspondence 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Center because it wasn't safe, And then they caught him 81 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: at like one of the big pre uh. 82 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: Part Yes, correct, yes, which that was one of the 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: most classic Fauci moments of all time. You know, he 84 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: wants to be with the cool kids. But also it's 85 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: the virtue signal that the unwashed masses who attend the 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: White House Correspondence dinner main events, they're putting your grandmother 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: at risk. But you know, Fauci going a little side 88 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: party doing the macarena. No problems with that one. 89 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: So I'll play a couple of these, because I do 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: think you should at least know what they're saying. First 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of all, Biden just can't talk, I mean, and this 92 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: is not getting any better. Here he is talking about 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: how he brought home wrongful detainees from Ronda. Listen to this. 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: We've been able to bring home dozens of hostages and 95 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: wrongfully detainees to wrongful detainees from Afghanistan, Burma Haiti, Rand 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: Ronda Venezuela, cross West Africa, around the world. 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be Rwanda that he's saying there, I 98 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: guess maybe I don't even know think so. He also 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: then talked about Tucker Carlson being forced out. Here is 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: cut twenty six. 101 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: We really haven't record to be proud of vaccinated the nation, 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: transfer the economy, or historic president of victories at midterm results. 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: But the job isn't finished. I mean, it is finished 104 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: for Tucker Carlson. What do you mean about like that? 105 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: Like you think that's not reasonable? 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: Give me a break. 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: First of all, that's not even really funny in any way. 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: And I just I come back to on the Tucker front, Buck, 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: I think Tucker is going to be far more powerful 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: as a independent voice in some way than he was 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: as an employee at Fox News. So but the reaction 112 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: was as if Biden had said something really interesting. If 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm Tucker Carlson, I love that. I want to play 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: that because that room reacting as they did to him, 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: it's not his audience. It actually helps him. 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: I know it's kind of funny, but uh, or you know, 117 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: it's funny to think about this, but if you had 118 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: a if you had a publican president who made a 119 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: joke about, you know, with Rachel Matta who just. 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 5: Got fired, they'd be like, job loss, isn't funny? Like 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: people depend on that show, like they all they have 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: no sense of humor about themselves. They can only make 123 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 5: jokes about the other side, which is is always the case. 124 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 5: But I thought this was interesting too, where he even 125 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: made a joke Clay about how he doesn't take questions 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: from uh doesn't take questions from the press. 127 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Here do we have twenty four? Play twenty four? 128 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: A lot of ways this dinner sums up my first 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: two years in office. I'll talk for ten minutes, takes 130 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: zero questions and cheerfully walk away. 131 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: By the way, they just they just say this stuff 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: and it's like ha ha ha, and they don't do 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: their they're all frauds in that room, this White House 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Correspondents Association. We're here to you know, do journalism. That 135 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: is a gathering of regime media. That is all it is. 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 6: There. 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: There is no I mean, there are you know, I 138 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: know there are a couple of Fox people there, but 139 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: you know it's ninety eight percent Biden flax in a 140 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: room and they're making jokes about how the whole thing 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: is a fraud anyway. I just you know, it's just 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: not good. It's just not the it's the whole notion 143 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: too of this like well, like we should all get 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: together and like they don't speak truth to the to 145 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: the White House, they don't speak truth to Democrats, so 146 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: why even go through the pretense. 147 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: Well, what's also interesting is it's not even a joke. 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: That is what he's doing. And I'm sure you saw 149 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: the Politico piece where they said, yeah, we basically only 150 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: have the window of ten to four ten am to 151 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: four pm to be able to do any Biden events. 152 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: The fact that Biden was up after dark is almost 153 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: unheard of. Can you imagine the leader of the Free 154 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: world in an article inside of the Politico, which is 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: usually very deferential in many ways to parties in power. 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: They don't schedule events in the morning until ten, and 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: they don't do events after four in the evening. By 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: and large, they have a six hour window where they 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: can do things like how are we in a place 160 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: where the president is in such enfeebled condition that they 161 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: almost can't even trot him out to do anything. I mean, 162 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: this is even for Democrats. I feel like justifying Biden 163 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: all the way up until November of twenty four is 164 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: going to become virtually impossible, because every time we see 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: him speak, it's almost like buck he's on some sort 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: of speed when he's reading, and he's trying to go 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: as fast as he can and just get out of there. 168 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: But this is a little bit like your argument about 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court switching it back, which I think is compelling. 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think you're wrong. They don't care, right, 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Biden is a class betterment effect, it's Federman effect. 172 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: They don't care he's a Democrat, they'll get what they want. 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: Their team's in power, Democracy US under threat, right, all 174 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: this stuff, and ultimately they don't expect that Joe Biden 175 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: is anything other than what he is. So I don't 176 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: think it really matters to them. You know, Ron McDaniel 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: just put out from the RNC. Ron mcdemill just put 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: out that it turns out in twenty twenty two they 179 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: did an RNC autopsy, so to speak, and we didn't 180 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: win in key races independent voters. 181 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 182 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: Now we try to talk about this year. We discuss 183 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: it with everybody, say, hey, guys, got to win independence 184 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: if you want to win, and you know you hear 185 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: a lot of voices out there and live different pundits 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: and stuff. No, we're just gonna just base turnout. It's 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: not gonna work. It's not gonna work, so got to see. 188 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: Well that's my argument for all the Trump people out there. 189 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I want you all to be thinking what is going 190 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: to change in twenty twenty four that is going to 191 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: make Trump win? And I'm eighty one million people showed 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: up for Biden, seventy five million showed up for Trump, 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: and you can be screaming at your phone. They don't count. 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: They cheated. Do you think they're not gonna cheat in 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: twenty four. Do you think they're gonna be like, oh, well, 196 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna run the same game plan 197 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: that already won us in twenty twenty. They're gonna do 198 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: everything they can to rig the election. Trump won in 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen a very close race because he won independent voters. 200 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: The last time that Republicans won independent voters in an 201 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: election was twenty sixteen. Okay, how and what has to 202 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: change to win independent voters in twenty twenty four. That's 203 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the whole game. Everybody can sit around and talk about 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: until we're blue in the face about everything. Independent voters 205 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: are going to decide this election. Do you think that 206 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Trump is doing a better job question for everybody out 207 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: there talking to independent voters now than he was in 208 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 209 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: It is interesting, there's some there's some I'm seeing some 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: analysis out there that when Trump attacks DeSantis from the 211 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: left on issues, which he's done with Disney and a 212 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: few other things, that that's actually a move toward the 213 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: center for independence. Now I have seen this, which is. 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, by the way, maybe that answer is yes, Well, I. 215 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: Was just gonna say on the on the federal abortion issue, 216 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: for example, I do think, and this is going to 217 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: be a longer, more difficult conversation. It is not because 218 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: I've looked at the data and the numbers of this too. 219 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: I know you have. It is going to be very 220 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: difficult for Republicans to win if they take a maximalist 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: position on protecting life in a lot of places, it's 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: going to be very difficult to win. That's not a 223 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: comment on the morality of it. Everyone knows how I 224 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: about the life issue. But if you want to win 225 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: and prevent Democrats from running the table and then passing 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: extreme abortion stuff, which is what they want to do 227 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: in a lot of these states, so Trump on that issue, 228 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: coming at the santus from the left saying that abortion 229 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: should be a state's issue, not a federal issue. I 230 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: do think that there's a basis for a strong basis 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: for saying, for a Republican who wants to win nationally 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, leaving it to the states and 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: not taking up that issue, and this could be other 234 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: issues as well as a federal one. May be smart politics. 235 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Whatever one thinks of the morality of it. 236 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: I think it's one hundred percent smart politics. And my 237 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: concern and this is what we're going to keep hammering 238 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: over the next whatever it is, eighteen months till the election. 239 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: How many people are willing to change their vote. I 240 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: think the way Trump is going to win is actually 241 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: by Biden not having enough enthusiasm, right, because a lot 242 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of people are less likely to say, oh, I vote 243 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: for Biden in twenty twenty I was wrong, I'm going 244 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: to flip back to Trump in twenty twenty four. I 245 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: think they're more likely buck to just not show up. 246 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: I think that everyone, like what can I think people 247 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: tru not be as fired up. I think that Trump 248 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: is the is the get out the vote effort for 249 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats. In their minds, that's all they have to do. 250 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: So if it's true, they think, yeah, if it's true. 251 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean I know this from Democrats. You can read 252 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: and read and listen to what they're saying. That is 253 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: their plan is that as long as it's Trump, they 254 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: feel like they'll you know, it's interesting too. But the 255 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: whole finish the job thing, I think that that's that's 256 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: a double entente. It's a you know, it's sort of 257 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: two meetings. 258 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: It is finish the job of being Biden, you know, 259 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: Biden being president, but also finished the job of defeating 260 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I think that that's part of the of 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: the messaging campaign there too, because that's how they're going 262 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: to get people to come out and vote. They're going 263 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: to say, we have to stop the threat to our 264 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: democracy again. 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I mean, we have to come up 291 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: with better language, I think for this, but language that's 292 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: sort of respectful of the fact that, you know, we're 293 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: all hopefully going to be in a place where we're 294 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: too old to be president of the United States. One day. 295 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: We could all be so lucky, or should all be 296 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: so lucky. But it's absurd what they're doing with Biden. 297 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: But here you go, they're already talking about this. This 298 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: was on one of the Sunday shows. Trump's no Spring 299 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: Chicken either. They're saying play twenty two. 300 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 7: Joe Biden is operating as if Donald Trump is going 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 7: to be the nominee and his future success depends on Donald. 302 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: Trump being the nominee. 303 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: When you have seven out of ten America doesn't want 304 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 7: to see Joe Biden run for election and six out 305 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 7: of ten Americans not wanting to see Donald Trump run 306 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 7: as well, this is a potential rematch in twenty twenty 307 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 7: four that nobody wants to see. And unfortunately, whether we 308 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 7: like it or not, age is going to be a 309 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 7: factor in this campaign because guess what, Donald Trump's knows 310 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 7: spring chicken out either And so this is something that 311 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 7: both candidates are going to have to deal with through 312 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 7: their primaries and President Biden in the general election. 313 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: Look, there's not going to be a meaningful primary for 314 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. So I mean, I'd be shocked, could be wrong, 315 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if that was not the case. But 316 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Joe Biden going up against each other 317 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: this is an issue, and so far as it does, 318 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: they're within what four years of each other. Seventy eight 319 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: versus eighty two is the way that I think it's 320 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: going to lay out. I was talking with some people 321 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: out in Vegas over the weekend. I think eighty percent 322 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: of Americans if you told them, hey, you get your 323 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 2: pervertial magic wand you can cancel Biden and Trump out 324 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: and both people get to pick both parties get to 325 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: pick new nominees. I think eighty percent of Americans would 326 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: do that right, not trying to get a competitive advantage, 327 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: just you can wipe out seventy eight versus eighty two. Right, 328 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: to me, the race America would probably like to see 329 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: the most is Desantus versus Newsome, right, thirty years younger. 330 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: They clearly don't like each other. They have very differing 331 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: visions of how America should be run. And that's my 332 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: biggest like. Biden has no business being president now, much 333 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: less being. 334 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: Up for reelection. The biggest weakness that he has is 335 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: his age. Trump. In many ways, even though Trump has 336 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: infinitely better control of his faculties, Trump takes that off 337 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: the board to some extent because you can say, yes, 338 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: Biden's eighty two, but if Trump's seventy eight, you just 339 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: got two old dudes. In a lot of people's minds. 340 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I think everybody's got to think about. I think eighty 341 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: percent of Americans would say let's wipe the slate clean. 342 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Let's go younger. 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That's Get Refunds dot Com. 359 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Sleve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 360 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: We're just talking about the fact that Joe Biden could 361 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: be eighty two, Donald Trump could be seventy eight, and 362 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: that rematch in twenty twenty four could be on the 363 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: horizon next year. And the fact that I believe the 364 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: vast majority of people, if they could, would replace Trump 365 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: and Biden, not one or the other necessarily just hey, 366 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm ready to turn the page. We need younger people 367 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: running for political office. I think the vast majority of 368 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: voters out there would make that change. But I will 369 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: say this, Biden, the DNC is protecting him. They are saying, hey, 370 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: we're not going to have the Democrat debates RFK Junior. 371 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: You heard on this program last week up to nineteen 372 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: or twenty percent support, which is a sign of how 373 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: weak Biden's support is in the Democrat Party. Now Trump 374 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: has come out and said, hey, you know the first 375 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: RNC debate I believe on Fox News in August. Trump 376 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: has now come out and said, nobody really consulted with me. 377 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll debate either. They're trying to 378 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: protect Biden. Clearly, the DNC buck I don't blame Trump. 379 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: If he's going to be up in the most recent polls, 380 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: he's up, you know, thirty thirty five forty points on 381 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: his next closest rival. It looks like Tim Scott's going 382 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: to announce on May twenty second. DeSantis may announce also 383 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: in this next couple of weeks. If you were Trump 384 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: and you had a thirty or forty point lead, would 385 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: you debate? I wouldn't, because I think that elevates his contenders, 386 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: and I don't think he has that much to gain. 387 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: If he's truly that much of a favorite. 388 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Well it certainly, you know, it's certainly possible, I think 389 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: for him to make that, make that case, and I 390 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: can understand why he would. I would also just put 391 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: in there. I don't think that debates really matter all 392 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: that much in terms of how the election really goes 393 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: one way or the other. I think it's very rare. 394 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: I can point to and anyone who disagrees or doesn't 395 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: remember this, go check it out. Mitt Romney absolutely believe 396 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: it or not. I know this sounds crazy. Mitt Romney 397 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: destroyed Barack Obama debate debateach first debate they had. I 398 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: mean then abs so like as bad of a butt 399 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: kicking as you know, short of like a Fetterman situation, 400 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: but as bad of a butt kicking as you would 401 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: see on a debate stage. And now there are two 402 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: other debates, to be fair, and there was the Candy 403 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: Crowley moment with oh, he did call them terrorists or whatever, 404 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: but didn't didn't you know, didn't budge anybody, it seemed 405 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: for Mitt Romney when all said and done. Now, maybe 406 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: that was just a Mitt Obama situation and not transferable 407 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: to general politics. But I feel like it's really hard 408 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: to see. But I guess people would would have would 409 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: say on the other side of it, when you have 410 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: elections that are as height as some of these presidential 411 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: elections have been, even if you're talking about swaying two 412 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: hundred three thousand people forty thousand, which when you're when 413 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: you're when you have a debate audience of millions and millions, 414 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: you know, maybe that could make a difference, at least theoretically. 415 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: But I generally think debates are a little bit overplay. 416 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: But I think that I look, I like them, we 417 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: like them in the media. We want to know. I 418 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: think that people have a right to demand this, but 419 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: in a general it's you know, it would come down 420 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 2: as you're too scared to debate, I think, But I 421 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: do believe Biden will might try this if Trump refuses 422 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: to debate in the primary, Biden's going to refuse to 423 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: debate Trump because He's going to say, well, you know, 424 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: you didn't feel the need to debate, and I don't 425 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: want to platform. You's going to correct to democracy man. 426 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Now, I would say Trump in twenty sixteen, 427 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I think the debates were massively important to him because 428 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: it got him on the stage and he had to 429 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: go toe to toe with whatever it was, the eighteen 430 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: other people running. And I think that that was must 431 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: see television. Was it Fox that had the first win, 432 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: the Megan Kelly controversy. I think all of that benefited 433 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: Trump immensely. My thoughts though, are, if you're up thirty 434 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: or forty, the number one rule when you're winning big 435 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: is just ignore your opponent. You ever notice, if you're 436 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: in a big red state or a blue state, a 437 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: lot of times they won't even name the person they're 438 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: running against because it's like they've never gotten a glove 439 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: on them, and why would you give them the attention 440 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: that of that naming. And so if I'm Trump and 441 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm stun buck that he has pulled away as much 442 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: as he has based on the numbers. As we sit 443 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: here in May, it's hard to know what the things 444 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: will look like by July fourth, late July, things can change. 445 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: But if the numbers are similar as they are today 446 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: in August, I don't blame Trump strategically for saying, yeah, 447 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get on the stage. I got nothing 448 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: to prove. 449 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: Could very well be how it all shakes out. Now, 450 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: this is where we all, This is where the cliches 451 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: start to rain down. Everybody, you know, six months is 452 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: a lifetime in politics and all this stuff in their 453 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: cliches for a reason. Though it's true, we could be 454 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: seeing you know, we mentioned earlier in the show. It's 455 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable, isn't another bank failure? More bank failures than 456 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: we've seen since two thousand and eight. A lot of 457 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: people saying that a massive recession could be coming. But 458 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: that's not the major news story in the country right now, 459 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: right that's not getting that much attention. I bring it 460 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: up because that could very much change the feel and 461 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: the battlefield of the election. And we found more. 462 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: With China in the twenty twenty four election. Buck Like, 463 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: if you're talking about crazy happenstance would it blow your 464 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: mind if China just said, screw it, Biden's a weekling, 465 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna invade Taiwan sometime between now and twenty twenty four. 466 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me at all. 467 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: It is amazing whenever I ask somebody who studies that 468 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: issue specifically and is a policy nerd on the issue 469 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: of Taiwan, said, what would we do? You know what? 470 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: Everyone kind of says, Clay, we don't know. Yeah, and 471 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: how we think it's strategic ambiguity to keep China on 472 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: its back foot. There's also the ambiguity of yeah, we're 473 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: not really sure how we hit all that. 474 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: And even scarier, who's going to make that decision in 475 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the Biden White House. It ain't Joe Biden. I mean, 476 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: the guy can barely stand in front of a television 477 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: monitor and read. 478 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: Commander ron Klain. Man, you put that guy out there, 479 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: put some medals on his chest. You know, he's Napoleon, 480 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: He's not the chief of staff. And I'm like, and 481 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: Susan Rice is gone. I mean, I honestly am terrified 482 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: of we effectively have a zombie president, right, somebody who 483 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: barely just kind of stumbles around, has no real idea 484 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: what's going on. Zombie President is fine when the debate 485 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: is let's be honest over whether we're going to raise 486 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: the debt ceiling or not. Zombie President, the weekend at 487 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: Bernie's presidency is not good. If suddenly China invades Taiwan 488 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: and we don't even know. We got generals who were 489 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: concerned about whether we're inclusive enough in our military. I 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: read today in the Wall Street Journal that we're out 491 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: of missiles, like somehow we haven't produced enough missiles because 492 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: of all the stuff we've been giving Ukraine. Like these 493 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: seem to be significant flaws that would be rising in 494 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: the event that China invade in Taiwan. We have one 495 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: facility that that makes black powder, which is necessarily seem 496 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: ideal to me, Buck, I'm not an expert of munitions. 497 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Not my deal, No, especially because you know you're making 498 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: an explosive, and when you're making an explosive, bad things 499 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 2: can happen that could throw off and have happened by 500 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: the way, at that facility. I think it was other 501 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: the times of the Wall Street Journal running bout this over 502 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: the weekend. You need black powder as because it's very 503 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: easy to ignite so it in the gloshive train is 504 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: part of the ignition for Tomahawk missiles for really important, 505 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: really expensive weaponry in the US arsenal, and we've only 506 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: got one place that makes them, and really their business 507 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: is a lot of it is hobbyists who make those 508 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: rockets that you put in your backyard. You do remember those? 509 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever do that? My dad was into that 510 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: for a little while. 511 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: I remember. I think by the way, the Biden administration 512 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: shot down a few of those hobby rockets. 513 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: Those rockets were a menace. 514 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: Remember how that story just vanished. Biden shut down three 515 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: different unidentified flying objects. They were like, oh, we couldn't 516 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: find them. And then these random people were like, yeah, 517 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: we think it was our hobby plane, you know, our hobby. 518 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: Balloons, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, 519 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: those hobby balloons were asking for it though, you know, 520 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: they were talking smack about Joe, and Biden just wasn't 521 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: going to have it anymore. So he blew those balloons 522 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: out of the sky. But yeah, no, we have a 523 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: we would not be able to sustain in a variety 524 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: of on a variety of levels, a two front war 525 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: if we had to for any period of time. 526 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: We don't. 527 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: We wouldn't have the logistical ability to do it, we 528 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the personnel ability to do it. Right now, 529 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's increasingly clear, and that's not 530 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: a good place for the world's supposed only superpower to 531 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: be in. But guys, don't worry about it. Biden's got 532 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: the you know, diversity and inclusion mantra going, and everything's 533 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: going to be That is our strength missions soundly strength. 534 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Did you say they released new photos of Barack Obama's 535 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: raid when they killed Osamoban Laden. I remember Biden advised 536 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: against the raid. Biden advised against the raid that killed 537 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Oslobon Ladden. He's wrong on everything, so we want him 538 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: there when suddenly the phone rings and Taiwan's under assault. 539 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's a I think there's a an ETF 540 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: basically that trades UH buys and cells stocks based on 541 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: the opposite of what Jim Kramer from CNBC does. Do 542 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: you know this? This is a real thing. So it's 543 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: a real thing. Best you just go. I think it's 544 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: too pretty well. I don't quote me on that. I 545 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: think it's doing pretty well, but it does the whatever 546 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: Jim Kramer tells you to buy do the opposite of it, 547 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: and it's a fun you can go check it out online. 548 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: For foreign policy, you should have that for Joe Biden. 549 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: Whatever Joe Biden has wanted to do on foreign policy, 550 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: you should do the opposite of it. And that would 551 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: be the better way to go. And we'll come back 552 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: in this also, let's take some of your calls. Eight 553 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: hundred two eight two eight eight to two. 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Tutor Dixon Show is going in 585 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: the feed so you'll hear Tutor Dixon uh if you 586 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: subscribe and listen to everything we're putting out there. So 587 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: please do subscribe to with the iHeart app. Download the 588 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: iHeart app wherever you are you can listen and also 589 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: check out to claanbuck dot com vip if you want 590 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: to support the show and be able to email us 591 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: anytime directly, and we see all those emails. I mean, look, man, Phyllis. 592 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: Phyllis raised the idea clay Me shaving the beard. I 593 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: got the wife's approval, so you know, Phyllis gets results 594 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: one of our VIPs. I'm just saying, you know, I 595 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: think she's out in like Nebraska, so she says shave, 596 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: I shave. This is how this goes. We we are. 597 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: We are in the service industry, my friend. We serve 598 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: this audience. 599 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: You look so young without the although it's starting to 600 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: creep back. You need to get the razor right now. 601 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna get you know, I have a 602 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: I have a you know, new razor now that I'll 603 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: be trying out too, So it's exciting stuff. Let's get 604 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: Brad in Wisconsin. Rad, what's going on? 605 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I listened to every day. I enjoyed a program. 606 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 6: But I'll tell you, every time you guys talk about 607 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 6: the Santas being the number one choice for US voters 608 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 6: out here, I got to tell you. I don't know 609 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 6: where you're getting your info, but everybody in this neighborhood's 610 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 6: voting for Trump, and uh. 611 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Where honestly, I mean today, yeah, I don't think either 612 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: of us well, first of all, I know neither of 613 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: us have ever said that, and I mean today we're 614 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: talking about. 615 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 6: How I just I just heard you guys say that 616 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 6: the preferred guy to make the Republican ticket would be 617 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 6: the Santas. 618 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: Nobody said that. No one said, Brad, you weren't listening 619 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: to the show. No one said that on this show. 620 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: That was not I said. 621 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I said that, I think the vast majority of Americans, 622 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: if they could. 623 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 6: There you go, would I don't know where you're getting 624 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: your info, but. 625 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we literally talk on the show. That's what 626 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: we're getting our info. I said, Look, if you cancel 627 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: out two old guys, I think the majority of Americans 628 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: would prefer that we had a younger matchup. And if 629 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: we had a younger matchup, I think it would be 630 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: DeSantis versus Newsome. You're gonna see the data. 631 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 6: Trump to Biden. There's no way Trump will. 632 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: The data reflects that. I agree Trump is in far 633 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: better condition and mental acuity than Joe Biden. But if 634 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is eighty two and Donald Trump is on 635 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: the stage with him at seventy eight, independent voters are 636 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: not going to look at two really old guys and say, 637 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I've got a major generational choice to 638 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: make here, right. So I think the number one vulnerability 639 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden is his age. I think if Trump 640 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: is the nominee, that makes the number one vulnerability of 641 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden less significant. So do you disagree? 642 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 6: I disagree with you. I think when you put. 643 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, let me just ask you. Hold on, 644 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Do you think that 645 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden at eighty two is too old to be president? 646 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 6: He's too old? Right now? Come on? 647 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: I so you agree with me. So if you run 648 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: a seventy eight year old against him, if you run 649 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: a seventy eight year old against him, then for many 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: people you're going to vote Trump. I'm going to vote Trump. 651 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: Buck's going to vote Trump. In that scenario, but we're 652 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: not the ones who are going to determine the outcome 653 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: for the independent voter. Many of them are going to say, ah, 654 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: it's just two old white guys. It doesn't really matter 655 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: which way I go. I'm going to vote like they 656 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty for Biden over Trump. Again, we 657 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: said Trump is not non independent six six. 658 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: So now I'm interested by the way, Brad, I always 659 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: want to of course, you know, be fair. Now I 660 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: understand what you're saying when you call it. I just 661 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: thought it was interesting because today we've been talking about 662 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: how Trump's going to be the nominee and how do 663 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: we get Trump to win? So you know, no, you 664 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: know that's that's a separate that was earlier on the program. 665 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: I thought maybe you thought we were saying that Dean, 666 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: this is gonna be enough, which we've never said, it 667 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: looks likely that Trump will be the Republican nominee. And 668 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: then I think Clay's talking about winning over independent voters. 669 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, he was making a different point. But I 670 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: think we've I think we've clarified a little bit more 671 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: where we are. Thank you for calling in, Brad from Wisconsin. 672 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Patrick in Salt Lake City got some thoughts 673 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: on the debate's Patrick, how you doing? 674 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 6: Not too bad? 675 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: Great to hear you, guys. Thank you just real quick 676 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 4: because I know time short. There's one reason Biden can't 677 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: debate because he can't. He won't be allowed and he's incapable. 678 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: The reason Trump shooting debate is because he's a gunslinger 679 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 4: throwing lead down the range, and until somebody proves themselves 680 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: worthy of coming back at him, it doesn't do him 681 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 4: any good to sit there and try to just be down. 682 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: Plate. Can ask you a quick question, Patrick, if someone 683 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: in your mind, I'm just curious. I'm just curious if 684 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: Trump and any of the challengers against him get to 685 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: a place where there within you know, ten points of 686 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: each other in the polls, do you think then Trump 687 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: should and has to debate. Do you think he'll still say? 688 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: No? 689 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: Oh, of course he does. 690 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: He has to because we need to know what's really 691 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: going on. And there's so many people that are, you know, 692 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 4: a little down on Trump that they have to have 693 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: some minds changed. And if he doesn't change minds, he 694 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: can't win. 695 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: I think again. Thanks for the Carl. The point on 696 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: Trump is he's up so much right now. Strategically, I 697 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: think he's right. I don't think he needs to debate 698 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: in the Republican primary. But your point, I said this 699 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: a while back. I think Biden's going to try to 700 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: avoid him. If Trump says, hey, I won't debate in 701 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: the RNC, that probably does give Biden a little bit 702 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: of a door to open it up and say I'm 703 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: not going to platform him. He is too dangerous his ideas. 704 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't respect him enough to get on a stage 705 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 1: with him.