1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, give you a 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: little quick roadmap as to where we are going. Third hour, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna have fascinating discussion with Senator Rand Paul, the 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Good Doctor, about the hearings on Capitol Hill with regard 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: to gain a function research. And they have a bunch 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: of experts who have testified saying pretty terrifying stuff about 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: what can go wrong with gain of function and that 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: this was being done in some places, notably the Wuhan 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: Institute of Virology in China, makes it something that we 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: should certainly focus in on, get to the bottom of, 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: get some answers about. And also the latest with the 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Democrat Reconciliation Bill, they're looking to really create a lot 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: of jobs, a lot of jobs for IRS agents. Oh yeah, 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about that here in just a moment. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: But you know this Britney Griner situation, she just got 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: sentence in nine years And you know, it's always funny. 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: We can tell people we love whenever we get calls 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: in on any subject, and it's honestly, such an honor 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: that so many of you listen across the country. You 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: spend time with us. We hang out together, we learned together, 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: dive into what matters, have some fun too, and so 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: I always really appreciate it. But it is funny because 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: sometimes you hit a topic and all of a sudden, 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I can see producer Greg who's working the phones right now, 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and he needs about eight hands to just deal with 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: the lines just light up like a Christmas tree. People 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: are really fired up about this, and I look, I 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: will tell you, I think there are There are definitely 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: nuances here. There's a lot of there's the foreign policy 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: component of this. How much of this is Russia trying 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: to make a point against the US. How much of 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: it is they just want to have leverage in a 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: negotiation with us? But also, what kind of special treatment 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: is Britney Grinder getting because she is a famous celebrity. 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: How much our Democrats focused on this even more because 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: she's a celebrity female and minority then they would and 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: say the case of Paul Whaler, there's I understand, there's 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot of layers here, and we got all the 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: lines loot up. So I'll take a couple more on 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: this one to get some of those additional components into 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: our discussion, and then we'll talk reconciliation. Bill Monica Crowley 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: also producer Raley about half an hour, right, I should 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: be with this little less than that. Monica Crowley formerly 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the Treasury Department, great analysts of a whole range of things. 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's start here with Mark in Maine. Mark, 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you've got some thoughts on this one. Hey, guys, thanks 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: for taking my call. So you know, I listen to 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: a few of your callers in I just I guess 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I want to ask them, you know, where's your compassion 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: for your fellow human being? I think that being okay 53 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: with someone being put in prison for nine years for 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: doing cannabis oil is really really extreme, and it's like, 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: how do you celebrate freedom in this country and be 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: okay with someone getting that much time for just you know, 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: taking a little marijuana and they're not hurting anyone. I mean, 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: it was point seven grams. My understanding is that that 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: that's about a teaspoon. And they charged her with transportation 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: of a quote large scale transportation and significant amount of drugs. Basically, 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: they hit her with a drug trafficking charge for a 62 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: teaspoon's worth of cannabis oil, as if she was going 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: to sell it to other people in Russia. She was 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: not going to get rich selling a teaspoon of cannabis 65 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: oil in Russia that much, I could assure folks up. 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: So she was not charged with simple possession. That would 67 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: be different, right, She was charged with transportation and the 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Russian equivalent of intent to distribute. So does that seem fair? 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, is she the Pablo Escobar of 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: vape pens? I don't think so. So I do believe 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: that there should be some you know, we need to 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: keep our heads about this, and not just because the 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: other side plays politics with everybody all the time. Doesn't 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: mean that we can't just look at this as an 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: issue of what is fair and just and say, oh, 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the Russian criminal justice system they get determined. I mean, 77 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: trust me, you don't want to be an American facing 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: anything in the Russian criminal justice system. We have Frank 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: and Colorado also on this one. Frank, what's going on? Yes? Right? 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? Just thinking that the president, Harris and Pelosi 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: have already reassured her attorneys that she will be religious. 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: But it's not going to be before the mid terms, 83 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: and right at the midterms that will help them out 84 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: the most. Oh, I think that they always like the 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: time these things for maximumical effect. That's how democrats, That's 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: how democrats role. And uh, let's do let me see here, 87 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Stephen Florida. Steve, you're you're a order guy. What do 88 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: you think, Steve Hey, thanks for taking my call. I mean, 89 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: we can debate whether she got charged right or wrong, 90 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: but I don't think we should be giving up a 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: one of the top notorious gun dealers for Brittany Griner. 92 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a little Yeah. Did you 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: hear our interview with President Trump last week where he 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: just said, look, it's a bad deal. So yeah, you're 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: not alone on this wheel. I mean, that's that's insane. Yeah, 96 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: it looks like that's what I think they're gonna do it. 97 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: By the way point they can. Yeah, I mean it 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: just goes to show you. But you know you look 99 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: at thank you for calling in, Steve. I mean, I 100 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: remember the Oh gosh, I can't remember the year, and 101 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm going into the memory banks now, Producer, Greg, you 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: take a look at this. I think the Israelis once 103 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: traded something like a thousand a thousand Palestinian prisoners for 104 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: three Israelis. I think that happened at one point. I'm 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe my numbers are a little bit off, but disparate trades. 106 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: We value life and justice and decency as a people 107 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: and as a government more than the Russian government does. 108 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: Just gonna say, I mean, that's I think that's quite obvious. 109 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: It was obvious before the invasion and decimation of Ukraine. 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: It's even more obvious now than it was then. But anyway, 111 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get some more some more voices 112 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: in there. Obviously, some folks feel very strongly that, look, 113 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're you go to Russia, you've got to 114 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: be on guard about this. And she did have you know, 115 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: they didn't plant it on her. That's not the claim 116 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: it's being made, So that would be a whole different thing, right, 117 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: But it is a teaspons worth of of cannabis oil. 118 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, let me see, Yeah that did I was 119 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: right about this. Um Israel back in nine eighty five 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: exchanged a thousand Palestinian prisoners for three Israelis captured during 121 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty two invasion of Lebanon. So just saying 122 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: the stuff does happen. All right, let's get to thank 123 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you all for waited. Let's get to the Democrats. The 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: reconciliation built one part of this that everybody should be 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: reminded of. And Ted Cruz was hammering on the Senator 126 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: cruise of Texas. They're gonna fund I mean, I look 127 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: at this, as You've gotta be kidding me. Eighty seven 128 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: thousand IRS agents, eighty seven thousand. Here he is, This 129 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: bill funds eighty seven thousand new IRS agents, imagined IRS 130 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: agents descending upon America like a swarm of locusts. And 131 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: by the way, these IRS agents aren't there to go 132 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: after billionaires. They're there to go after you. They're there 133 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: to go after your small business. They're there to go 134 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: after your family. The Democrats idea is if they audit 135 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the hell out of every American, think of all the 136 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: money they can raise. Now, I gotta say, as I've 137 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: traveled Texas, as I've traveled the country, I've heard the 138 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: people yearning for a lot of things in America. I've 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: never once heard someone say what we need is more 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: IRS agents. I mean, this is big government rona muck 141 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: it is. You know, they talk about what's fair in 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: the tax code. All right, libs, how about this one. 143 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Why don't we have a fair tax or a flair tax? 144 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: Combination of a flat at a fair tax, the flair 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: tax is amazing. Maybe just came up with something that's 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: a tax that is just got a lot of got 147 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: a lot of vibe to it, you know, a lot 148 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: of No, but either of a flat tax or a 149 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: fair tax. I bring those both up, because whenever I 150 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: talk about one, I get all these emails and messages saying, no, 151 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: what the other one is the good one? Okay? Well, well, 152 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I just I had a conversation with Ted Cruz years ago. 153 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm a saw him in person here in New York 154 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: at a at an event. I remember I've talked him 155 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: about this. There's oh my gosh, this is like twenty fifteen, 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen maybe, and he said, look, we're gonna put 157 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: the if. This is when he was thinking about running 158 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: and did run for president. He said, we should have 159 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: the tax code be simplified to the point where it's 160 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: a page long, and the irs should be just a 161 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: very straightforward compliance bureaucracy because everybody knows what they owe. 162 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: It's not hard and you can pay your taxes with 163 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: a what's the thing you send in the mail that 164 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: is uh? You know you can read it on one side, 165 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: the others usually a picture. I'm forgetting what that's called postcard? 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, good job Buck. Buck is good with the 167 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: words today on the radio. Yeah. You you could pay 168 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: your taxes with a postage card effectively, just you know 169 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: here it is boom, or just send in a simple 170 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: check because you could do the math on the back 171 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: of a napkin. You know, I made fifty five thousand 172 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: dollars last year, I pay you fifteen percent. End of story. 173 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, do a calculator, or if you want to 174 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: do it old school, like you're back at high school, 175 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: do the do the math on a little card and 176 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: you send it in instead. I mean, I'm pretty good 177 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: with the reading comprehension I had. I got an extension 178 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: on my taxes. I try to readthrow this stuff. I 179 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: don't even know what we're talking about here. I just 180 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: give it all. Do an accountant and say help me 181 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: and tell me. And it's crazy. But why won't libs 182 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: give that up? Because the opaque nature of the tax 183 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: code and the uh, the the gray areas of it, 184 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: and the size of it creates a lot of room 185 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: for social engineering, creates a lot of room for carveouts 186 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: for goodies. And this is why you notice every important 187 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: bill that comes out of Congress these days, it seems like, 188 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: certainly when Democrats are in charge Obamacare, now this um. 189 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Even when they do can you know, can ing resolutions 190 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: and reconciliation bills and all this stuff, it's always five 191 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: hundred pages, a thousand pages, fifteen hundred pages, because it's 192 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: just a compendium of different interests all slap together. And 193 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: then Democrats sell it with a couple of key phrases, Oh, 194 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: this will bring down your prescription drug costs. Sound good, 195 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: let's do it. Well, hold on, what else does it do? 196 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: And doesn't really even do that? They hope that we 197 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: don't pay attention. I should check this. I remember hearing 198 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: years ago that there was a period in the in 199 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the Roman Republic and this is one of these things. 200 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's an urban legend, so let's put this out there, 201 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: but I think this actually happened where they would have 202 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to they had to display laws. You know how, when 203 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: you start a limited liability corporation, for example, those there's 204 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: still this a lot of places have it. I know 205 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: New York does. You have to take out an add 206 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: in like a local newspaper, you know, so you take 207 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: out an ad to say, you know, Buck's LLC is 208 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: now a thing, and it creates a public, verifiable record 209 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: of the existence of this. This is a thing that 210 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: you do. Go back to ancient room. They would change laws, 211 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and it was supposed to be on a column, and 212 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: they would write what the laws were on this column, 213 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: and then increasingly and again. If this is urban legend, 214 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: let me know. But the story was that they would 215 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: write the laws higher and higher on the column. So 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: they were writing the laws, but nobody could read them 217 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: unless you wanted to get some kind of a ladder 218 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: or something. Nobody could actually see what was being written 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: in the columns. That is, even if it's just a metaphor, 220 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: or if it's just a if it's apocryphal, that is 221 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: a story. It's very similar to what our Congress is 222 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: doing all the time. Now, who reads these things? Who 223 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: reads them? And I'll tell you this, Supreme Court opinions 224 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: they're very long a lot of the time, you know, 225 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: not five hundred pages long, but you know a lot 226 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: of them are one hundred pages long. There's a lot 227 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: of legal lease in there. But if you read the 228 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: first usually five pages, even the first two or three pages, 229 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: you get a pretty good sense of what's that issue. 230 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: You have some ideas to what the decision was and 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: how it came down. You know, you can get a 232 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: basic idea of it. You try to read one of 233 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: these five hundred page bills and you look at this, 234 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what this is on purpose? Right, that's 235 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: what you need to understand. No one who is currently 236 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: out there as a Democrat on TV saying this bill 237 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: is great, hundreds of billions, it's gonna improve manufacturing, YadA, YadA. 238 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: They haven't read this thing. They have no idea, They 239 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: have no idea, and so Joe Mansion's out there trying 240 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: to sell it. Meanwhile, in the background, a lot of 241 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: people are saying, hold on thousands, tens of thousands of 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: IRS agents, why are we adding to a bureaucracy that 243 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: should be actually phased out with the simplification of the 244 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: tax code. It would be enormously beneficial to all of 245 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: us to have a tax code that was very straightforward. 246 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: But you know, at LEAs see this, why does New 247 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: York have an income tax in flo a dozen. One 248 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: state is well governed, the other isn't. That's the question 249 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: of who wants to be in charge and who wants 250 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: to take stuff from you because they think they'll do 251 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: a better job with your money than you will. There's exercise, 252 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: my friends, and then there's too much exercise. I'm trying 253 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: to find the right balance between the two, because you know, 254 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my shop, myself in shape these days. 255 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Got get ready for wedding day For those of you 256 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: who missed this announcement, Yes that is happening. So I'm 257 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: in the general lot these days. 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Go 274 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: to relief Factor dot com or call eight hundred the 275 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: number four Relief. How did Senor McConnell get played on 276 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: the Reconciliation bill? Well, did you have a deal that 277 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: the passage of the Chips bill would not lead to 278 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: a bill that this was kind of sprung on you? 279 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: There's reconciliation is something done by one party only. There's 280 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: nothing we could have done to prevent the Democrats from 281 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: doing a bill that only they will vote for us. 282 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: So it's not a question to be played here. What's 283 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: the storyline here is that Center manage and had agreed 284 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: to something that he had said publicly and privately over 285 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the last two weeks he but never agree to. We're 286 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: not involved in reconciliation bill. It won't be a single 287 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Republican vote for it. I think we could do to 288 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: deter it other than to criticize it publicly, and that's 289 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: what we're doing right here. So why did Mansion do it? 290 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: Go along with it? We've been talking about that. But 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I do think it is interesting because here's a guy who, 292 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: for the last year or so had really set himself 293 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:26,239 Speaker 1: up as somebody who frustrates the more radical progressive impulses 294 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: of his party, and then at the last moment, he 295 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: decides to bail them out from facing the voters under 296 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the reality of the failures of the Biden economic policies 297 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: we've all seen so far. Why why do that? As 298 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: I've said, I believe it's because he sees advantage for 299 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: himself in this. He's not going to win another election 300 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: in West Virginia, and if this goes forward, I can 301 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: tell you that I will do what I can to 302 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: make sure the people of West Virginia know that this 303 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: is not somebody who should be representing them in the Senate. 304 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: And then there's the the cinema component of this, and 305 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: so far that's lining up exactly as I had anticipated. Yesterday. 306 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: She's gonna be a yes, but she's got to play. 307 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Then maybe I want to look at it a little bit, 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I want to add a few things because of 309 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: exactly what I was talking to you about just a 310 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: few moments ago. They want everybody wants to be able 311 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: to just tack on their stuff in the bill that 312 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: nobody reads, that becomes law that affects you and me 313 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: and the economy. And it's gross, it's gross, five hundred page, 314 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: thousand page bills. This should never really happen. I mean, 315 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: there's no there's no real justification for this, certainly on 316 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: issues when issues like you know, green new Deal, spending whatever, 317 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: just tell us what it is, where's the money going, 318 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: and what are you trying to do? But transparency is 319 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: an enemy to bureaucracy. You've always got to remember that 320 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: they hate transparency. You've ever known a family or a 321 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: friend that's been the victim of identity theft, you know 322 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: how super disruptive it is. 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Absolutely, What we are saying 347 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: is that we cannot dictate and we will not dictate 348 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: where members of Congress skill members of Congress. Let me, 349 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: let me, let me finish. Who dictated they go? Now 350 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: he can say if he thinks it was good or not. 351 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how it works. How does it work? 352 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I want somebody to answer that in the West wing. 353 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Monica Crowley is with us now. She knows how it 354 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: works in government at the top level. She's a former 355 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and host of the Monica 356 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: Crowley podcast. Who's you listen to? On? I heard hey Manca. 357 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: How you doing, hey Buck, I'm doing great. Thank you 358 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: so much for having me back. What do you think 359 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: about this Taiwan visit? I mean, what do you think 360 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: about it from a national security perspective, but also economically, 361 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: given where we are right now, could be some Chinese retaliation. 362 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of it all? Yeah, I mean 363 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the sending of her trip here is really interesting. You know, 364 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times politicians will take these junkets. They'll 365 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: go on Kodel's congressional delegations abroad, particularly when they know 366 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: that they will no longer be in office, so they 367 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: try to squeeze these trips out of the American taxpayer 368 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: in the waning months of their time in quote unquote 369 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: public service. So I have a feeling that this is 370 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Pelosi's trip to Asia was part of that. She will 371 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: no longer be speaker come January first. She knows that, 372 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: and she may in fact retire from Congress, so I 373 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: think she thought of this trip as like her last 374 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: big international travel on the taxpayer dime. So that's one 375 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: thing from a national security standpoint. Look, you'll recall that 376 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: Barack Obama wanted to do a tilt toward Asia away 377 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: from Europe, and there is a huge argument to be 378 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: made for that Obama and Biden didn't execute that particularly well. 379 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: And Biden is just a strategic mess. I mean, there's 380 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: nobody in this administration doing any kind of strategic thinking 381 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: in any area of the world. But when specifically, when 382 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: it comes to China, you've got an administration that is 383 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: wholly compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, so 384 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: they are number one adversary and we've got a commander, 385 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: a chief Buck that is completely strict up to any 386 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of ability to counter the CCP in any kind 387 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: of effective way. So for this is Pelosi to go. 388 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, it could have been Look, it could have 389 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: gone worse, and it could have gone better. It could 390 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: have gone worse where the CCP really did what they 391 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: threatened to do, which is shooter out of the sky. 392 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: They were never going to do, but the rhetoric was 393 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: there versus really do things that would strengthen our allied 394 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: relationships in the region with the Philippines, with Japan, with 395 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: South Korea. And I didn't see any of that materialized 396 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: out of her trip. So it was provocative to the Chinese, 397 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: but I am all for that. I think we need 398 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: a far more aggressive strategy towards the CCP economically, geopolitically, culturally, politically, 399 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: in every direction. But this trip just sort of seemed 400 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: to kind of vanilla in the sense that it didn't 401 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: have an effect to one way or the other. Now 402 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: the CCP could retaliate, we could see some action. That 403 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: is going to be kind of a delayed response. Remember, 404 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: after nine to eleven people in this country were so 405 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: infuriated and outraged by the terror attack that they wanted 406 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: retaliation immediately against the Taliban and all kinda. It came 407 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: several months after once we had only gotten aaract together 408 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: to respond in Afghanistan and elsewhere. I think in this case, 409 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: we might see something, and I think buck it's going 410 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: to come in an economic form. I don't know how 411 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: what kind of shape that will take, but I do 412 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: think that the CCP is not going to just allow 413 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: this visit to Taiwan just to go unanswered. So we 414 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: need to be on standby for, embraced for whatever the 415 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: CCP might have planned. Speaking of Monica Crowley, you can 416 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: check out the Monica Crowley podcast on iHeart Monica. You 417 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: were in the Treasury Department under Trump, and you were 418 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: seeing the kind of decisions that were involved in a 419 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: booming economy, in some ways the best economy, and certainly 420 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: recent memory, perhaps even distant memory. When you see that 421 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats are trying to slip through this reconciliation bill 422 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: hundreds of billions in spending, hundreds of billions, and tax increases, 423 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: what does this mean to you? We're going to get 424 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: ready for We're going to see here in the economy 425 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: if it goes through, this is a catastrophic bill. And 426 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I find myself saying that with everything that the Biden 427 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: administration and the Democrat Congress has done of the last 428 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: what nineteen months, this is an historic catastrophe. And now 429 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: they want to compound the historic catastrophe by spending another 430 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: trillion dollars made up of hundreds and hundreds of billions 431 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: of dollars in new tax increases, which will affect you 432 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: and me. This is going to affect every single American. 433 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: It's going to affect every small business. This is not 434 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: just about going after the billionaires and the millionaires. They 435 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: like to demonize the wealthy in this country. This is 436 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: now going to affect to everybody. They are lying to 437 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: you when they say no one making under four hundred 438 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: grand a year is going to be affected, That is 439 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: a straight up lie. It is going all the way 440 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: down the income scale to those making even thirty thousand 441 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: dollars a year. So this is what they want. They 442 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: want to put the squeeze on everybody. The critical element 443 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: to this, too, is they are going to hire between 444 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: seventy five and eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. And 445 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: they say they want to do that book for enforcement 446 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: to try to squeeze more money out of industries and billionaires. 447 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: That is false. They are coming after the place where 448 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: the most money is, and that the American middle class, 449 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: and that in small business in this country. So enjoy 450 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: your audit, because you will be audited because they've got 451 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: to squeeze as much money out of the rest of 452 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: us as possible, and in terms of the macro story, 453 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: spending another trillion dollars in this kind of inflationary environment book. 454 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: If you think inflation is bad, now, just wait. If 455 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: you think the economy is weak, now just wait, because 456 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: it's going to take all of these negative economic indicators 457 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: that we're all suffering through right now and put it 458 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: on steroids. It makes absolutely zerological sense unless you understand 459 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: exactly where they're coming from, which is this is about 460 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the fundamental transformation of the nation. This is about moving 461 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: us away from economic freedom and individual liberty and toward 462 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: a neo Marxist state. That is what they want. That's 463 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: why they are spending this way. They're driving us into oblivion. 464 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: They are deliberately torpedoing the US economy. All of this 465 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: is by design, So it makes logical sense when you 466 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: know what they're really all about and what they're really 467 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: up to here in terms of spending and all of 468 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: these policies. Monica Crowley check out our podcast, The Monica 469 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Crowley Podcast on iHeart Monica. Thanks so much, always a pleasure, buck, 470 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. So you know you're getting through the day, right, 471 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what is it now? 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As we had mentioned to you, UH Senator 511 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: Rand Paul, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes, 512 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: has been leading these congressional hearings focused on gain of 513 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: function research. Gain of function research. Now, we were talking 514 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: about this much more in the news cycle because there 515 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: was the whole where did the Wuhan coronavirus come from? Right? 516 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: What was involved here? Initially, social media, as you remember, 517 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: was shutting down any talk of the lab leak theory 518 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: until it became clear that there was substantial evidence. It 519 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: was quite a coincidence that one of the very few 520 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: places in the world, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was 521 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: a place where they were actually doing gain of function research, 522 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: and that there were some US funding going through a 523 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: carve out a third party making its way to that lab. Yeah, 524 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden got a whole lot of attention. Well, 525 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: what is gain of function research in the first place? 526 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Kind of regulations exist around it? What do we know 527 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: about it. This is something that people should certainly have 528 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: a deeper, I think understanding of. So we've had these 529 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: congressional hearings dedicated to this started yesterday and Rand Paul 530 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: is looking to pass an amendment that would amendum to 531 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: the Package of Domestic Semiconductor Manufacturing that would ban all 532 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: US funding for gainer function research in China. But Senate 533 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Democrats have objected to this. That's kind of weird, isn't it. 534 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: What does gain a function research? Well, here, you don't 535 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: listen to me. Here's MIT professor doctor Kevin Esvalt, who 536 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: was at this hearing. The question is if they were 537 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: not intending to determine whether a novel recombinant event between 538 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: these coronaviruses could lead to something that might kill millions 539 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: of people, then why were they doing it? If there 540 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: was no chance that it would come up with a 541 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: result that, like it was more dangerous, what's the point? 542 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: What's the scientific hypothesis? So, again, whatever you call it, 543 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: what they were trying to do was identify a biological 544 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: agent that has a good chance of being able to 545 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: kill millions of people if released. And they shared the 546 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: description of what they did, and they shared the genome 547 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: sequence because they thought that this would make us safer, 548 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: because they think that knowing which viruses in nature might 549 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: cause pandemics makes us safer. They did not consider the 550 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: security risks, apparently not think about this. You've got scientists 551 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: in China deciding that they're going to mess around with 552 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: naturally occurring viruses to see, I mean, could this with 553 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a tweak here, a little 554 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: bit of a touch up there, could this virus turn 555 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: into something that is the Spanish influenza pandemic, or like 556 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: the bubonic plague, which was actually, as we all know, 557 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: carried by it was a bacteria that was carried by 558 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: the fleas on the backs of rats, particularly among other animals, 559 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: were mostly on rats. Would it be something along those lines, 560 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: essentially a global mass killer of humanity pathogen? And they 561 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: were tinkering with these things with the idea that, well, 562 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: if we know what could be really bad, then we'll 563 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: at least have some way of getting ahead of it 564 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: if it happens. Without thinking, well, hold on, maybe if 565 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: we tinker we'll make it into the really bad thing 566 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: that we were worried about in the first place. MTS 567 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Professor Esvalt continues, and it's worth noting that both USAID 568 00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: and H funded those particular coronavirus chimera studies. USAID, to 569 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: my understanding, has since disavowed those chimeric recombination studies and 570 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: announced that they will only focus on finding natural pandemic 571 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: capable viruses, which is at least a step in the 572 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: right direction. But again, I would call that Gaina function. 573 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: Another reasonable scientists would say, no, that's not Gaina function 574 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: because the term is so ill defined. Chimera, my friends, 575 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: so we all know the chimera from ancient Greek mythology. 576 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Which do they even still teach that in schools? They 577 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: should dart it. I feel like they probably have A 578 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: mythology is amazing. There's a lot of focus on North 579 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: mythology these days because everyone's like, oh, Thor he's so cool, 580 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: look at his big arms. Norse mythology is good, but 581 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: ancient Greek mythology is better. I might get some angry 582 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: calls about that one, but I'm just gonna say it. 583 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: A Greek mythology is amazing. The reason why the Romans 584 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, that's really cool. We're just gonna take 585 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: it and change some of the names because works pretty well. 586 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: But the chimera in Greek mythology was a monster with 587 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: the head of of a lion, a goat's body, and 588 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: a serpent's tail, right, But in in um genetics it 589 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: is an organism composed of the cells of more than 590 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: one distinct genotype. In in virology, it would be mixing 591 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple of different things with the genome to essentially 592 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: create Kimra is a better a better word for it 593 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: than a Frankenstein because you know what happens whenever you say, oh, yeah, 594 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: people go Frankenstein, wasn't the monster. Frankenstein was the doctor. Yeah, 595 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: we all know, okay, but when we say the Frankenstein monster, 596 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: we all have you even read it? Actually it is? 597 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: It is really good. You want a book recommendation that 598 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you can get for free on Kindle 599 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: when you downloaded it might be ninety nine cents that 600 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: still to this day is phenomenal. Bram Stoker's Dracula amazing 601 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: novel to this day. And I know you're saying, oh, 602 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: I know the story, and you think of the guy 603 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: from the movie, and like the nineteen fourties was like 604 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: I won't suck you're blood, Like you know, and then 605 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: we get count Chocula and all that stuff. The original 606 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. I don't care if you're if 607 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: you're sixteen or sixty. Great reading still to this day, 608 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: just really really incredible. And I got distracted from gain 609 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: of function research. Let's get back to how this could 610 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: basically turn into a WMD situation. This is also from 611 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: the hearing Rutgers professor E. Bright Gaina function research and bioweapons. 612 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: What's the connection there? I mean, what role does gain 613 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: a function play? As I mentioned, there are no civilian 614 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: practical applications that are immense bioweapons practical applications. As you've 615 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: heard from doctor Spelt. The potential pandemic pathogens that can 616 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: emerge from such studies are potential weapons of mass destruction, inexpensive, accessible, 617 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: easily distributed weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction 618 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: that actually really just tribute themselves. All they need is 619 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: to get out once and then they are self replicating. Right. 620 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, you let out poison gas, as scary as 621 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: it is VX gas or something. The gas scenaria dissipates 622 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, you know, horrible, but it's done, you'll 623 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: let out one of these things. A chimera virus manipulated 624 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: by scientists to find the most dangerous version possible. It 625 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: keeps going and going, various iterations of it, even perhaps 626 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: even we see it as a virus that could be 627 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: aerosol eyes. Friends, we've got Sonar and Rampaul joining us 628 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: talk about this and the latest faucia madness and spending 629 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: and some other things. As much as we have time 630 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: for we will get to. This is Buck on the 631 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: clay En Buck Show, coming up with our fury and 632 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: just a few stick around