1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: It's really good to be in studio. By the way, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: this is the Ben and Ashley I Almost famous podcast 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hey everybody, I'm Ben, oh and I'm Nicky. Yeah, 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: we're doing this like this. Um. Nick Viole is here today. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Ashley is out of the country and so we thought 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: we would bring back one of our favorite and most 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: special guest, the former Bachelor himself. Welcome to the podcast, Nick, 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: thanks for having Ben. Are you the most recent bachelor 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: other than Ari? Yes? Oh? Do we have the most 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: recent bachelor and the one before? Are you the one before? 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: I am? Yeah. This is a big deal, isn't it. 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: So we have the two most recent bachelors talking about 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: the new one. You are nothing if not observing. Oh man, 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: it's like you playing that or something. Um. Anyways, immediately 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: feel used. Wait before you guys start talking about everything, 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: I have some breaking news. I'd love to hear this. 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: I would like to read from US magazines End of 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: the Year issue some things that were the most googled in. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: The most googled person Matt Lower, The most googled musician 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Lincoln Park That's sad. The most googled wedding Pippa Middleton, 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and James Matthews and the most googled breakup, Ben Higgins 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: and Lauren Bushnell. Way to go, congratulations, I was really 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: excited for this list. How is that possible? What do 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: you mean? How is that possible? How is that possible 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: that like more people googled you than Chris Pratt and 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Anna Ferris or Anna Anna whatever her name is, Josh 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: de mel and Fergie. Let's know what you're saying right now? 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Besides all yeah, besides all of variables that now my 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: breakup is is the most googled You're rubbing in by 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: going how I don't get it? I mean, I actually 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I am like shocked, amy stop. I don't want to 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: be mean, like I'm proud of you. Well, I don't 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: want this is doing No, we're good people, truly believed 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: in your relationship. I believe that. Unfortunately that I don't 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: know what to say. I want to know what you're 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: feeling now that I've told you you're the most googled breakup. 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? Sad? Happy? I don't know, um, confused? 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: It's like a minor win in your failed relationship. There's 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: nothing about this. It's uh, it's really sad. It's like 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Participation Award. Hey, you tried really hard, really hard, 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: and as a result we cared. Yeah, but hey listen, 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: you know like people cared that you lost all right, 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, unlike my relationship, apparently people just went on 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: with their day. It's like, well, you know, yeah, Nick, 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: do you think you'd feel better if you were the 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: most google I'm comfortable with letting Ben have this award. 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's in Prince I printed it magazine. I 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: can see the picture, highest grossing film, Beauty and the beast, 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: most stream song, Shape of You, most YouTube song, Desposito, 50 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: most googled breakup, Ben Higgins. It's really nice to be 51 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: back in studio with you all um. I'm so happily 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: ever after your question, absolutely not. You know, there's some 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: things in life that, uh, you would rather just never 54 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: have happened. And I honestly, I never thought I'd had 55 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: my own podcast. I never thought I'd be the Bachelor. 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd fall in love on the Bachelor. 57 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: I never thought we would be breaking up from the Bachelor, 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: And I never thought people would care enough to actually 59 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: google about the breakup. And what are they googling? Like 60 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: if we broke up, I guess they google Ben at 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: Lauren breakup. So, Ben, do you think people are devastated 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: by the breakup or basking in your pain? Yeah? Oh um. 63 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: As a victim, I feel like people bask in my pain. Um. 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: But I really do believe that people watch this show, 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: and I believe just like you and Vanessa, people believed 66 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: in it. They want to believe in it. Oh, I 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: like to wait just for the breakup. Well, you're also 68 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: the one that brought up that I was the most 69 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: google breakup. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, yeah, finally 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: we last. Yeah. I think people care, but I don't think. 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't think people were that devastated when when it's 72 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: people break up from bach I think at this point 73 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: it's almost expected. Do you think there was a Bachelor 74 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: breakup where people were devastated? Ben and Lauren breaking up? People, Yeah, 75 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: we're pretty upset. It's got to be that because otherwise, 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think people must google it because they 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: want to know what happened. How could this possibly have happened? 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I need to google it and find out. And again 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I posted like another relationship is like you know, I 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: was I've actually I've been devastated with a Bachelor breakup. Yeah, 81 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I remember back in the day watching Um Desrah and 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: Rooks Desiree real devastated. Then they didn't even end up together. 83 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: But when that moment happened on the show when he said, hey, 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I remember feeling for her at the time 85 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and going, this is sad because she's really into him. 86 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: But there's always a success story at the end, and 87 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: the success stories that she is happily married today. What 88 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: a kid to the dude from the show. Yeah, that's 89 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: what's your happy ending going to be. We're still looking 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: right after this podcast, Wait, am breaking news. You gotta 91 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: ask Ben about Winter Games. You're going back. What were 92 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: you thinking? Well, I was looking for my happily ever 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: after Winter Games? Everybody, Yeah, can you tell us what 94 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: it is to come Bachelor Nation? So Winter Games is 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: really just a fun kind of flighthearted show. Uh that 96 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: will be filling in for the weeks during the Olympics, 97 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: so the Bachelor will actually take a pause, Winter Games 98 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: will step in and fill that time slot, and it's 99 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: just it really was a really fun experience with obviously 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: the typical bachelor drama. Are people looking for love. People 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: are looking for love, they're competing in wintry sports. Um, 102 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: people are going on dates. Uh, there's tears, there's emotion, 103 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: there's everything you would expect from a Bachelor show. Ashley 104 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: are other co hosts. That's typically here. And I decided 105 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to do it because we wanted to, you know, take this, 106 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: take that next step and have fun with it and 107 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: see what it was. I'm glad we did it. It 108 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: sounds like you're falling in love. Are you potentially in love? 109 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: You have to watch it sound like you're falling in 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: love with Ashley? Am I really? I didn't mean that 111 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: at all. Please don't take it that I didn't take 112 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: it that way. Um, but no, I did do it. 113 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Now so you can go out to the Bachelor and 114 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: look at the release of the cast members. My picture 115 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: you should look up in close. I had my flight 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: down in it. Yeah, my flies down in my Bachelor 117 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in true boy scout fashion. Ben is always prepared for 118 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: falling in love. Yes, how do we find picture? I 119 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: would want this no other way go. I don't go 120 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: out to Twitter the Bachelor of Twitter. Go to Mike 121 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Flice's Twitter. I think he linked it. Um, you can 122 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: find it. I've I've now found it and it's been 123 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: sent to me a couple of times. You know, this 124 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: is my relationship with the show now, where they care 125 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: so little about how I look that they're just like, 126 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: you know what, there's some great pictures we have have 127 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: been Let's pick the one when it's flies down. I mean, 128 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: I'm assuming if I was down the entire photo shoot, 129 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to you being like halfway from the shoot 130 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: being like, you know what, I'm just saying to breathe, 131 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, uh yeah, no, it was down 132 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: the whole entire time. Nobody really wanted to tell me. 133 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited this photo will now represent me 134 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: for the next I don't know month of my life. 135 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: The most Google old picture. I can see the names, 136 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: so I'll read who's on the show, but I see 137 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: no fly down picture, so it says the men from 138 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the United States of America are Ben You, Dean, Eric, 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Eric Bigger. I'm assuming Jamie. Who's Jamie? Um? Oh, Jamie's 140 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: from last season of The Bachelor. He was he was 141 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: gone very early. He had his famous statement at the 142 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: very first episode was if if Rachel isn't into a 143 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: guy with perfect facial features and a perfect wardrobe. She 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: won't be in the me so you can lose. Yeah, 145 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: he's actually he was. He was darling him, Josiah Luke, 146 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: Luke Pell. We like Luke Michael. We love Luke Michael. 147 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I know that dude Gara below or something. Why are 148 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: there only three girls from representing America? Ari had a 149 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: couple of the girls from his season that have not 150 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: been it. Okay, so it's Ashley, I our very own Claire, 151 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: crazy Claire from Sacramento, She's crazy, keep going, and Leslie 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: from Shawn Lowe's season, and then apparently a bunch of 153 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: international people that won't mean anything that that was no there. 154 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: That was an exciting part of the show and really 155 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: a reason why I want to do it too, was 156 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know a lot of the people that were 157 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: going on. They were from all over the world. There 158 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: are people from Japan and China and New Zealand and 159 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: Russia and Germany and I'm forgetting Australia. It was a 160 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: really great mix of people that caused for a really 161 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: fun show. I think the viewer is gonna watch. I know, 162 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: being a part of it for me was fun. I 163 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: think the viewer is gonna have fun with as well, 164 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: So make sure to tune in to Bachelorard games. I 165 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: will be there, um with my flight up for for 166 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: most of the season. Hey, tonight, we uh got to 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: witness the second episode of ri E season and and 168 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: so far, I'm having a hard time diving in um 169 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: emotionally to this season. Nick, do you agree? Well? 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Let's break it down a little bit. 206 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Coming from a bachelor perspective that has recently done the show, 207 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: what did you think of Becca and Ari's connection. It's 208 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: it's the first one on one, so it's kind of 209 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: hard to tell. UM. I will say the two one 210 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: on one dates were in terms of early dates, we're 211 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: both um, I think meaningful dates or some something to 212 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of like take away in terms of they weren't 213 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: necessarily throw away dates. I think some you know, some 214 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: dates are always better than others. And in Batchel world, 215 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: and I think as the lead, UM, you know, there's 216 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: some sort of prioritizing of like who gets certain dates 217 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: that that happens, um, And so these particular dates, I 218 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: think we're dates that UM. I think Ari assumed or 219 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: knew that both of the women would really like and 220 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you for different reasons. You know, Becca had the 221 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: whole like she was wine and nine and very kind 222 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: of pretty womanesque's got the key but all and things 223 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: like that, and she you know, so there was a 224 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: day about really making her feel special. I think that 225 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: So that's telling. And they seem to really like each other, UM, 226 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's what I witnessed was I remember my 227 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: first one on one date with Kayla, and it really 228 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: started the relationship with Kaylin. She ended up going to 229 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: the final three because of that. Really that first date 230 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: when I got to sit down with her and I 231 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: realized for the first time in the show, Hey, I'm 232 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: actually gonna be really into somebody tonight when when we 233 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: watched Aris episode, I witnessed Becca and Ari having a 234 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: connection that just seemed more than what he has with most. 235 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: It was more natural. I did not find her annoying 236 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: and I did not find them awkward. Well, we really 237 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: don't know yet, right because we haven't really seen him. 238 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: That was the first date, Okay, so I mean, but 239 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: I will say the relationship seemed genuine, and he seemed 240 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: genuinely interested in her. And you know, Minnesota girl, she's Midwest. 241 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: You know, she seems very normal. You don't get the 242 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: sense that there's gonna be a lot of drama with her. 243 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Um So, I think it's probably a relationship that's one 244 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: to watch. But your perspective, and I guess my perspective too, 245 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: is different because you can watch this and be you 246 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: can see past some of the stuff that typically the 247 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: normal viewer can't. So you're watching this year's you're looking 248 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: for cues of is this real or is it not? 249 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Is already putting on his game face or is he not? 250 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: And from my perspective, I felt like watching that first 251 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: one on one day, to me, it seemed like there 252 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: was something more like she she's gonna be around a while. Yeah, 253 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I definitely, I think, yeah, I think it's a relationship 254 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: we should watch. I think, like I agree with you, 255 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: like little things like the music they chose to play 256 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: and things like that, you know, during during their date, um, 257 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: you know it was they Definitely, I thought it was 258 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: an interesting moment to um in terms of they they 259 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: aired one of the ladies, um, I don't know who 260 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: it was, when are picked back up for the date 261 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: of saying they look so cute together. I thought that 262 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: was a really telling moment of the show, like it's 263 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: letting you know that even some of the other women 264 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: think they look like a good couple. So I think 265 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that's an interesting point to watch. So I think, yeah, 266 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, if I had to guess she'll 267 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: be around for a while, um, because I thought that 268 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: was a telling little set up by the show. I 269 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: think there was, I was gonna say the same thing. 270 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: I think there was another moment in the episode where 271 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: somebody said they're gonna get married. I think Bibiana might 272 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: have been the one that when at some point she 273 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: looked at Becca and Ari and said they're going to 274 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: get married. I thought that was really sweet. It was. 275 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: It was a kind gesture on Biby honest part, but 276 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: also a little odd that other women are seeing something 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: there so early on. It almost reminded me of Sean 278 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: and Caitlin from the first night on. The guys were 279 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: saying this that relationship is different than any of ours, 280 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: and we can feel it, we can since it, we 281 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: can see it. We're gonna be around because we don't 282 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: know for certain, but we have a pretty good idea 283 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: that something special exists until you stepped in. And maybe 284 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: somethings gonna show week for this season. Um yeah no. 285 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: And also keep in mind she had she had the 286 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: first one on one, so there's a good chance like 287 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks we won't see much 288 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: of Becca, like she'll pop in, but like you know, 289 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: she's not gonna have a one on one day for 290 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: a while, So there's that I mean, she'll obviously be 291 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: on group dates, and I would expect her to probably 292 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: get a group date Rose at some point. Um, yeah, 293 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: but we won't. So I think it was telling that 294 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the show, because it was an early date. Um, they 295 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: definitely went out of their way to let you know 296 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: that this relationship was was meaningful. Um. And then you 297 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: had with the second one on one day. What was 298 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that young lady's name? Yeah, the second one on one day, Uh, 299 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: was with Crystal. Crystal and Ari flew to Scottsdale to 300 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: visit his hometown to to meet his parents. Which I 301 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: thought was a huge step and and kind of uh 302 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: different for the show to do so early. Um. Yeah, 303 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean they mixed it up, but it was. It's 304 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: interesting about that data is because you look at the 305 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: data itself and it would seem incredibly meaningful. You know, 306 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: hometown where he lives, meet the family, you know, and 307 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: so you immediately assume that even if you're her and 308 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: as a viewer like this already really likes this girl, 309 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: which is entirely true. It's so early on, he doesn't 310 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: really know any of these women at all. Um, so 311 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: he's basing early dates off of night one impressions. Um, 312 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: only to kind of find out as a viewer that 313 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't have a close relationship with her family, 314 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: so like, you know, that's not a coincidence that she 315 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: gets to go and meet his family and find out 316 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: how close he is, only to have to like talk 317 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: about how she's not close with hers. So to me, 318 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: that lost a little in terms of what does that 319 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: mean for those two in their relationship. Like I was like, okay, 320 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: that makes sense, and it makes less sense about the 321 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: relationship and more maybe about a storyline. And then obviously 322 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: she proceeded to be pretty good TV. At the cocktail party, 323 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: she was still weird. She has the ultimate um what 324 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: what does Howard Stern call it? Um vocal fry? Yeah? Yeah, 325 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: it's not even cute, Like first it's like sounds saltry. 326 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: It's like one of those people's voices were at first 327 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: like oh, this is really attractive, and then then like no, no, 328 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: minutes later just like oh you're talking not that not 329 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: a shot that that was attractive. That I think that's 330 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: where I want to get into here, So let's break 331 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: down that it was. It was fun to watch because 332 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: I want to know what the cocktail party. I hope 333 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: she sticks around Ben at the cocktail party, when she 334 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: was like, I missed you. Would you have liked that? No? No, 335 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, so we have Crystal 336 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: here who goes on this one on one. We all 337 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: kind of like her. After the one on one, I think, 338 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: all of a, Okay, there's something there. She opened up. 339 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: She shared, she was vulnerable, but I even wrote in 340 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: my notes there's something more here. At that moment, I 341 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: was like, this is she isn't this easy. She's more complicated, 342 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: which complicated and it could be a good thing, but 343 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: there's more to her. Yeah, she there was something. And 344 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: then we get to the cocktail party and we start 345 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: to see something thing. We actually saw it beforehand, if 346 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: you remember, right when she sat down with the women 347 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: in the house and they were asking her about the date. 348 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: And I know her intention was to not make them jealous, 349 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: to not overstep her bounds by sharing too much. But 350 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: as a result of not sharing too much, she came 351 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: off very distant and a little bit bitchy. M Am 352 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: I wrong, of course, she comes off as total bitchy, 353 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: which is good to good TV. I mean, I actually 354 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: it's funny launching this show how long has the show 355 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: been on? But we get this is the twenty second 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: season the Bachelor. We have how many season in the Batan. 357 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: It's like I'm almost like impressed, Like how do you 358 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: feel like they still come on? And and I don't 359 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: know if it's a producer thing or the people on 360 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: this show, they're like there's still like unapologetically and like 361 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: and I appreciate to a certain extent. I mean, I 362 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't that assertive with my time and for all 363 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the for all the criticism if I got early on 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: in annual season, I really didn't interrupt people, especially that 365 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: early on, but like I was a sort of with 366 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: like making going on on the way to make time 367 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and do little things. But it just kind of amazing. 368 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: So that brings me to a question that I'm so 369 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: interested in for the two of you. So, Ben, when 370 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: you were the Bachelor and all these girls are like 371 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I need my time with Ben, I need my time 372 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: with Ben, do you feel obligated that everyone get time 373 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: or do you feel like I'm just gonna talk to 374 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: the girls. I really am interested in, why waste my 375 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: time with Sally when I'm never gonna early on you 376 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: early on the first few weeks, I definitely wanted everybody 377 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: to get time because I didn't know anybody, and I 378 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: knew that that was my opportunity to get to know them. 379 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: As I got to know some people, then the time 380 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: wasn't as as needed because either A I knew they 381 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: were probably going home that night, and so I want 382 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: to invest into the people that I knew I was 383 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: going to be having a long lasting relationship with, or 384 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: at least another week long relationship with um. But and 385 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: so I think that's the transition right now are probably 386 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: feels pulled in the thousand directions. Here's the one thing 387 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I always queued up on so watching christ season and 388 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: watch Andy season, people react certain ways to specific situations 389 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: you have. You always have your hey I need more time, 390 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: girl or guy, Hey i'm gonna pull him first, girl 391 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: or guy. You always have those playing out. Typically those 392 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: aren't the people that you're gonna end up with, and 393 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: so I watched for that. So this would have been 394 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: my thing. I don't know, Nick, do you agree or 395 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: disagree week one or week two? If somebody's coming in 396 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: and interrupting me three different times in three different conversations, 397 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: there's a queue or there's there's a sign that would 398 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: go off in my head that would go I need 399 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: to look farther into this person. There's something off, yes, 400 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: and I mean to a certain degree one. I mean yeah, 401 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: like christ is not gonna win. I mean I think 402 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: that's clear. Um, I mean yeah. I mean I don't 403 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: know if that means like, I don't think her interrupting 404 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: makes an immediate sign that she's like a crazy bad person. 405 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean she might be slightly confused about their front. 406 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. But listen here the role of the 407 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: why would somebody not not at all? Let's we're not 408 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: going into If she's about she's probably a great person. 409 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: But why the people that do that? Why are they 410 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: doing that? Where do you think that comes from? And 411 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: that they can find somebody to do that every year 412 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: because you know what, Listen, everyone wants to get time 413 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: and so coup and like not to give trade tickets. 414 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: The role is to think you would agree with this. 415 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: The role of any lead, especially early on, is to 416 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: allow the cast people to be themselves, so which is 417 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: why you often don't see and the leads often get 418 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: criticized for you don't see leads shutting people down. You 419 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: if someone's gonna interrupt three times, you usually always see 420 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: the lead let it happen. And there's a reason why 421 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: because like people like to hate on it, but they 422 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: also love watching it. So like you just kind of 423 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: let people and and truthfully, you know, in in all sincerity, 424 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: it does allow the lead to kind of get a 425 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: feel for what's going on, so you don't try to 426 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: take over too much. And you know, like producers let 427 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: women do their thing. But there if if someone says 428 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I want to see Ari again, and they've already talked 429 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: to him twice, they'll probably make it easy for them 430 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: to find our How long are those little talks It depends. 431 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: It could be thirty seconds, it could be ten minutes. Yeah, 432 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: it just matters kind of where it's going and how 433 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: how beneficial it is. I mean, that's that's it, Nick, 434 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: It's the difficult situation. And as Amy was getting to, 435 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: these talks can often often be really short or really long. 436 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: You don't as the lead, you don't know how this 437 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: is going to play out, you don't know what it's 438 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna look like. You want to give everybody their opportunity. 439 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: I want to ask you before we keep breaking down 440 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: this episode what was in week two? From one week 441 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: one to four, what was your most difficult experience being 442 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: the bachelor? What was the situation that you didn't know 443 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: how to handle it? Well, I mean, I don't know 444 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: if there's a situation I didn't know how to handle. 445 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: I think the most difficult thing about being the Bachelor 446 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: early on, it's just exhausting. I mean there's so many 447 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: women that you really want to try to get to know, Like, 448 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, already had a gre update here was fifteen women. 449 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: So that's fifteen conversations. And assuming you only talked to 450 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: one person once, I mean, so he probably had twenty 451 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: little conversations. It's it's basically another night one. It's tiring, 452 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: itause exhausting. You have a sincere you have a sincere 453 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: effort to try to get to know these women, and 454 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: it's just exhausting. And so you know, for me, obviously 455 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: it was it was the Karin Show early on of 456 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: her wanting to get time and again, like it wasn't 457 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to handle the situation. It 458 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: was me letting Karinn be Karin, and then the fear 459 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: of like, you know, how how long can I let 460 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: this go on? Without really pissing off the other women's 461 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: it's a cat and mouse game. It's like it definitely 462 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: a juggling act. Is a complete juggling act. I think 463 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: you used the right word there. It's exhausting. Uh And 464 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I have just a solution for you, Nick. When you 465 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: get exhausted, check out a sleep a number mattress. Most Americans, hey, 466 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: that's right, most Americans get less than the recommended seventy 467 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep a night. Are you could use 468 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: one right now? We know his life is exhaust tive. 469 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: If that's you, Science prove is getting more sleep will 470 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: make it easier to hold fast goals. The sleep number 471 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: is smart, effortless, and comfortable. 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One, it's just like 498 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: my dates were fine, there were, especially early on, but 499 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: like just early on, it's like hard to like, you know, 500 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: like Ari's first group date, he's Demolition Derby. He gets 501 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: to drive around and you can decorate these cars for 502 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: how do they find these cars that they just destroy? 503 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: I had to do a wedding photo shoot where like 504 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: I had to change into like twenty ridiculous freaking office 505 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: dressed up is like Adam and Eve and like half naked. 506 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: It was just like exhausting. And then like, yeah it 507 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: was Ori is just like driving around in cars, so 508 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: he's definitely that was a cool date. I mean, um, 509 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: I had some cool dates but whatever. Um, but yeah, 510 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: that was that. When then I had the track date 511 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: where I'm just like running around. I didn't get to me. 512 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: Carl Lewis, that was really cool. Um, but yeah, I 513 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. I thought that was. I feel a 514 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: little bad for myself watching this episode. Now. I was like, 515 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: he pulls up in a motorcycle. I pull up in 516 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: a in a Volva. I had this, I had this 517 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: car convertible. Yeah different, I had this like a little 518 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: tiny audio which wasn't very masculine at all. You know 519 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: that says about me? Yeah, it really went with all 520 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: his blue eyes and cloud puffy lips. Yeah, I mean 521 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: they're really playing this guy up. And then he could 522 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: have a demolition derby. I gotta break down and saying, okay, 523 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: so so far. We talked about Becca. She was lovely. 524 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: There's something more there than what you that any of 525 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: the viewer actually knows. I think this she's gonna be 526 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: around about. We talked about Crystal on her one on 527 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: one date, really great one on one day. I feel 528 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: like she's playing into the role of hey, I need 529 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: more time, and she's overconfident in their relationship and as 530 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: a result, that's going to cause some problems I think, 531 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: for her later. And now we're getting into the not 532 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: for the viewers. That's why we watch right now. We 533 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: watched A Fine Love and Ari goes on gets into 534 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: a car something he does love and Analyze does not 535 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: love it. She was the mass girl night one. She 536 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: has a breakdown because she has a terror of bumper cars. 537 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Before we get into this, I 538 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: want to be very clear. I don't want to judge 539 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: her for her fear. I am so scared of clowns, 540 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: like so unbelievably scared of clowns. I know people that 541 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: are scared of dark spaces that are adults. I know 542 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: people that are definitely scared of spiders. Technology. There are 543 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: some weird fears out there. So let's set the record 544 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: straight as we get to talk here. We're not saying 545 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: she's wrong for her fear. Well, I asked her about it. 546 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: What did she say? I met her, so we ked 547 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: about it last week that I hung out with her. 548 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Can we have her as a guest? I think once 549 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't marry Ari or does or does I would 550 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I would love to ask some questions. Watching here's what 551 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: she told me. She had gone to do bumper cars 552 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: with her friends, and I guess they were mean to her. 553 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I believe? And when she says friends, 554 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: how old is she? I think nine? Maybe let me 555 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: text her. Let me text her and find out how 556 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: old she was. But I think it triggered her or something. 557 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: She was having these like flashbacks stuff when like kids 558 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: were mean to her and bumping into her or something. 559 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: It was just like watching it, she's like she gets 560 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: really emotional. I'm like, oh, what happened? And I'm like 561 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: feeling really really bad. And then like I thought, maybe 562 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: she like got ran over or like there were some 563 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: serious injuries. And then she just basically described your like 564 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: very typical bumper car experience where people were bumping into 565 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: you and ganging up on you, which is what like 566 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: what happens. Anyone who's ever done pepper cars has had 567 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: the same experience. And then she's just the way she 568 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: tells the story, it was just like it would be 569 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: the same as someone's like, you know, I just I'm 570 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: terrified of crossing the street because this is one time 571 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: I crossed the street. In the middle of me crossing 572 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: the street, it said don't walk, and I didn't know 573 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: what to do, and so I froze and all these 574 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: cars came and it was just like terrifying. So I 575 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: swear to God, I haven't crossed the street since you're right, 576 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so my seven it was the most unrelatable, 577 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: like devastating story. Well, and it was hyped up. So 578 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I was watching tonight and she's like crying, like you said, 579 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: I thought, I think it's gonna be like, oh, she's 580 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: been in a major car wreck. A family's member been 581 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: in a major car wrec this is gonna be really hard. 582 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: The poor girl should not do this because it's triggering something. 583 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: But I'll be when she had an incident at the 584 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: County Fair, when when she announced her terror because of 585 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: my evilness, I laughed, Yeah, and then and I'm sorry, 586 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: and at least I'm sure you're I'm sure she's fine. 587 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: Who was there who called her out that she was 588 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: just like, I'm confused, and the girl was like, I'm 589 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna ram right into I mean, the girls did not 590 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: take this series like they were like, yeah, I'm gonna 591 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: make her life worse because she's now announced her fear. 592 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: But she was scared. She was crying. It was crying. 593 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: I think she was just having a meltdown. I wouldn't 594 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: have done it if I was on the show, which 595 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I would never be, But if I was, I would 596 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: have said, passed. I'm not going to go in that 597 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: rent a wreck and have someone banging into view past. 598 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna take the opportunity to overcome your traumatic 599 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: bumper experience. Because then is the good news is she 600 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: did and you know she's fine. No pass past. I'm 601 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: not going to like that weird car that had no 602 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: air bags or safety protect me. Stop stop what are 603 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: everybody out there listening? Amy doesn't get an elevator. She doesn't. 604 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: She hasn't flown on a plane in eighteen years. She 605 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: drives everywhere. She's scared of everything. So her telling me 606 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: what she's scared of and wanting me to take it 607 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: serious is really difficult. I wouldn't get into those cars. 608 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: There's tons of things on your show. I'd never do 609 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: my point exactly, Yeah, my point exactly. You would do 610 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: very little. Amy won't go on the show. The show 611 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: won't have Yeah, she she would fill a couple of 612 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: good roles. Um, and she would be the hottie. But 613 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: thank you, I needed that today. Next thank you? Um Yeah, 614 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but I did think that might have been 615 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: one of the best and most exciting group dates I've 616 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: ever watched on television. They're all very lucky that they 617 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: think they get to have that uh bumper car experience. UM. Okay, 618 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: let's move on the cocktail party, the heart and soul 619 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, you know, the Bachelor. Can we back 620 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: up for a second. We can do whatever you'd like. 621 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Who was the young lady um from what I believe Miami, Um. 622 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: I call her no show Biana, one of our favorites 623 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: on this podcast, one of our favorites. No chill. I 624 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: have to refer to her is that from now because 625 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: that kind of starts on the group day and I 626 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: really quite liked her in terms of like every season, 627 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: there's always someone early on who like it's like it 628 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: just started. I mean that we're talking like day two, 629 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: day three of filming here, and this person is already 630 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: losing their ship in terms of like the time they're 631 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: not getting in just time out. We can't I like 632 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: what she's doing. Though she's being very honest, very straightforward. 633 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: We need to appreciate her honesty more. I'm not I'm 634 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: not saying I don't appreciate I'm saying she still has 635 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: no chill, Like she's she's listen that that world is 636 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: hard and painful and it messes with you. She clearly 637 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: has not gotten much time with ari Um. It's early on, 638 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: and that's getting to her. She clearly she might be 639 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: the coolest person. I'm sure she is, Like she's probably 640 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, but she's very outspoken. Obviously clearly 641 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I would guess as an attractive woman used to like 642 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: getting attention, and now she's in a world that she's not, 643 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's like messing with her and driving her nuts. 644 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: And on the first date she is losing her mind 645 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: and melting down. It's is it weird that I'm semi 646 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: attracted to that I haven't attracted that my whole life. 647 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm like, I love this, it's great. 648 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: But like she's I mean, she's very intense. But anyways, 649 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: I think she might, like I think off camera she would. 650 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: I think she'd hit someone. Yeah, I think she would. 651 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: I think I think she's capable of hitting someone, a 652 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: guy or a girl. I hope it happens. I don't 653 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: think it will, but she is really over it, and 654 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: so it kind of sets up into the cocktail party. 655 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to segue into that bend. So 656 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: that was that. That was kind of the best part 657 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: of the cocktail party of her just going off on crystals. Yeah, 658 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: crazy crystal, and then all the making out with Becca, 659 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: the shorthaired Becca. They just seemed to be making out. 660 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: She's the most impressive one I think just as as 661 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: a person. Well, it's interesting because like she's the youngest. 662 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I love her. They don't show her her age. Um, 663 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: it was night one like little things you pick up on. 664 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Clearly she's young. They won't show her age. But to me, 665 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: she's one of the most self assuring, confident people on there. 666 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: When she called out when the whole like what makes 667 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: you excited, and Ari said excitement like, you know, that 668 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: was a funny little thing, and like, you know, we 669 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know if that was like the end of the night. 670 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Are he's excited in his brains? Fried? Like, I'm not 671 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: here to pick on Ari about answering that question, But 672 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: first of all, it was just a good question. It 673 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: wasn't like very overly specific, but it was better than well, 674 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here and tell me about yourself. 675 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: It was like, all right, I'm gonna like ask you 676 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: a question that like might be able to tell me 677 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: something about yourself by the way you answer it. So 678 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: I thought it was a very thoughtful question. She's not dumb, 679 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: problem is going to be her age. Yeah, And then 680 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: the fact that, like when Aris said the excitement word, 681 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: she had the confidence, not in any bitchy sort of way, 682 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: but she called him out. You know, in a lot 683 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: of situations on that show, she could have been like 684 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: a lot of the women we are just like yeah, yeah, 685 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: excitement makes me excited too, Or she could have left 686 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: the conversation be like that moron, I'm sorry that moron, 687 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: like and so so yeah, she but the fact that 688 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 1: she like had the confidence on Night one to call 689 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: out the big old bachelor in terms of it just 690 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: showed a lot of it showed that she was very 691 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: self assured and confident herself. She's got a great voice. 692 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm really impressed with her. She's clearly 693 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: too young, and you're right, like, I think she'll go 694 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: for a while based off of that. She's very you know, 695 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: sexy and whatever, but like eventually I think her age, well, 696 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: we'll kill her. Well, it's funny. I'm watching it and 697 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, you compare this girl to karn it's 698 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: just like two and different maturity levels. Because she would 699 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: make a good bachelorette, but she's sex six years I'm 700 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure. I mean that's but I mean it's good 701 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: for her. She's so I mean that shows that she 702 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: is very Uh, she's very as a young lady. She's 703 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: she's very impressive. Is in that world to like hold 704 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: her own and um, it's impressive. She I mean she 705 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: had one of the things that sit out to me 706 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: most on Night one was when she's sitting with Ari 707 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: and he was on the back of the car and 708 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: they were talking about, um, what they were into, and 709 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: she said, you know, something along the lines of so 710 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: far this is this is good for me, not giving 711 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: him too much confident, but just enough to be that, 712 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: you know, kind of sweet gesture to make him know, hey, 713 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I want to be here a little longer. And I 714 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: think he was into it. He should be into it. 715 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: She's she's really great. She can you can tell. She 716 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: has a magnetic personality. He would want her, but she's 717 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: like twenty years younger than him. Yeah, it would just 718 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: be frowned upon fifteen years. I say, if he's hey, 719 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: love is love. If you I'm not judging, you know 720 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: it's anyways. Um, So okay, Nick, I want to ask you, 721 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the cocktail party. People these girls 722 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: grabbing uh Ari for more time, even when they have roses. 723 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: I know you're probably I'm gonna assume you're a fan 724 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: of this because you're all about, hey, take your time 725 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: to get as much time as possible. I mean, listen, 726 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: there's there's a there's there's a fine line of having show. 727 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: I think the idea that you have a rose and 728 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: so therefore you're not allowed. It's like, that's a bunch 729 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: of crap. I mean, I actually, and I think you 730 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: probably remember remember this when I came out on Caitlyn 731 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: Seas and I was like, listen, remember that, Like I'm 732 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: I don't I'm going to go out of my way 733 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: to try to find time with Cam and there's a 734 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: respectful way of doing it. But I'm not going to 735 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: concede time just because I've gotten a rose. There's a 736 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: difference between like getting a little bit of time and 737 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: waiting at the end or maybe there's you know, uh 738 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to like going three times. I mean that 739 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: was a little a little much, But I don't think 740 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: you should immediately concede sometime because you've got some time. 741 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: That's the most insane thing to do, to just be like, well, 742 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: I've already had some time, and therefore please guy and 743 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: try to like so you're saying the people, the cast 744 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: members on the show, So the baby on it, let's 745 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: talk about beyond, and the babyon is upset because crystals 746 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: a rose and she keeps stealing Ari away from other conversations. 747 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel like biby on anger is unwarranted, then 748 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: I think it's unwarranted to immediately be mad at the 749 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: first like she was mad immediately. She was mad that 750 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: she went to talk to her at all, like nothing 751 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: stopping Bibi On or anyone else to just grabbing her. 752 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: So like this idea, like they even said on the show, 753 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: there was this kind of one moment where they're like, well, 754 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: she's gonna go and then I'm gonna go, Like they 755 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: all like made a list, like if they said a 756 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of the producers are gonna just be like, all right, 757 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: we're all gonna grab you from i TM and just 758 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: mess up your intentions. But like that's insane, Like this 759 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: is not like this idea of we're all going to 760 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: share the same guy and so yes, but at the 761 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: same time, now that she's you know, and it's not 762 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: a quins that the girl who got the most mad 763 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: was the one she interrupted, you know. But I think again, 764 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: there it's a fine line, so like you can be 765 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: assertive and make the most of your time without being 766 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: quote unquote disrespectful. And I think I think both girls 767 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: were wrong in that situation where Babiana was had no chill. 768 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: That's no chill, right, yeah, that's no chill, no chill, 769 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: had no chill. And I think Crystal, I think Crystal 770 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: like should have just you know, been happy with a 771 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: little bit of time and then left it alone. Do 772 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: you think, as guys that were on the Bachelorette that 773 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: guys in general have way more chill than girls? I 774 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: just picture myself in that situation, and I would just 775 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: run out of the house screaming like a maniac, Get 776 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: me out of here. You just gave me the craziest 777 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: So are you saying, okay, Nick and Amy, are you 778 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: saying you believe guys have more chill? Wait? Wait, it 779 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: just depends. I mean there's been plenty of guy breakdowns 780 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: and season. Yeah, I was there for that where any 781 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: of your guys, like Ben, you just took all the 782 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: time with this. It happens every season, every single season, 783 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: and it blows my mind that people are every single season. Yeah, 784 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: I just cannot imagine guys being like that. Yeah, I 785 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: mean I just turned into some of the biggest women 786 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: in that show. Well, I mean I go back to 787 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: when Nick came on. So we for the first four 788 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: weeks of The Bachelor during Caitlin season, the guys that 789 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: we didn't go along with kind of all went home 790 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: pretty early, and so we never had that contention or 791 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: that those arguments existing. So when Nick came on, it 792 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: was a huge it really stirred the pot. We all 793 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: had this kind of close knit friendship. I think he 794 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: felt it. We can ask him. He sitting next to me. Um, 795 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: he he comes on and anytime he interrupted, he kind 796 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: of became the guy that was the interrupter. And a 797 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: couple of guys that's the thing. Fair in your opinion, 798 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: but from like the Josh Alberts of the world, who 799 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: was on Caitlyn season with us, he was one of 800 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: those guys that got very upset with you interrupted me. 801 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: I didn't interrupt, Josh. Well, we need to break this 802 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: down a little bit. It sounds like we haven't figured 803 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: this one out yet, but it's true. If that happens 804 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: every year, it's it's gonna happen. Um, did you did 805 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: you ever on Caitlyn season. There's a difference interrupting and 806 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: then going right because every every time they're like, all right, hey, 807 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk to so and so, especially early on, 808 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, well she's in that room talking 809 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: to someone. Go in there, right, And I know I'm 810 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: assuming at some point you went and grabbed Caitlin while 811 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: she was talking to a guy. Now, of course, now 812 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: they just some Again. I've always said that they choose 813 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: this air some things and then choose the air not right, right, 814 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: and so like that happens. In fact, that almost happens. 815 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: Every single conversation is almost always ended by someone else 816 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: coming in because I'm thinking about it. In real life, 817 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: we're all at a party, right, and like, some girls 818 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: want to talk to Nick. It's not like they're going 819 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: to ask each other if you had some time with Nick, 820 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: because I have. But it's it's the people who go 821 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: like it's the people who go like two or three 822 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: times in a night. There's a that's but at a 823 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: real party, in a real life this is supposed to 824 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: be real life, right, So at a real life party, 825 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: you just go and talk to who you want to 826 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: talk to when you want to talk to them. There's 827 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: no like list and I haven't had my time. It's like, 828 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: so this is supposed to be real life, and I 829 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: guess Crystal can do whatever she wants, But isn't real life, 830 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: and we're not go like if you saw a guy 831 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: and a girl talking and either they were hitting it 832 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: off or you don't even know if the in a relationship, 833 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: you're not gonna walk up and be like hey, like listen, 834 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: I just borrow this dude for a second, like that's 835 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So well, that does not compare this 836 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: to real life, because it's not. Um No, it's real 837 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: life for me, Nick, I had to relive the most 838 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: Google breakup of It's a real it's a real Like 839 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: I've said this before, it's very real and a very 840 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: unrealistic environment. It's not a realistic environment, you know, but 841 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: everything on that in that world is real. These are 842 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: real freakouts, These are really like real feelings, These are 843 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: real conversations in an incredibly unrealistic situation. Because we have 844 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity to have Nick in studio, I want to 845 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: take a little time here too, honestly, earnestly and the 846 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: best of our ability break down aries bachelor performance so 847 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: so far, Okay, if you want to call it a performance, um, 848 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call it. So if 849 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: you have a better word for it, please right in 850 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: and tell me. But Ari is earnestly trying to find love. 851 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: We've we've said that. I believe he cares a lot 852 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: about the woman involved, he cares a lot about the process, 853 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: um Nick, so far, after watching Ari, what do you 854 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: think his intrigue and appeal is like what the women 855 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: seem very into him. Um, I feel like the country 856 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: is going to start falling in love with this guy 857 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: because they really want to see him successful. I mean 858 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: that's the question I'm asking you. But what why would 859 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: they want to find? Why would they want to see that? 860 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: Like what intrigues them by about Ari? I mean, he's 861 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: a good looking guy and I met him once. He's 862 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: been very nice. Um. I mean so far this season 863 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: has been kind of it's interesting because he hasn't been 864 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: on in a while, and I feel like it's almost 865 00:44:53,000 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: slightly more reminiscent of like past seasons. Um, it's old school. Yeah, 866 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean listen, not everything like I say this, um sarcastically. 867 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: And I wasn't thrilled with it when it happened, but like, 868 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: not every Batcher can be as lucky or unlucky in 869 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: terms of good TV of having someone they you know, 870 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: met at a wedding on episode one to create immediate drama. Um. 871 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't thrilled with it, but certainly it 872 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: made things, you know, interesting for viewers. Um. And so 873 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: it's kind of again. I just found it really interesting 874 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: that they started with two one on ones. It was like, 875 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, usually the you know, you 876 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: get a little drama early on. I mean, Ari doesn't 877 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: seem like he's going to take a ton of risks. Um, 878 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: are you scared? I mean, are you scared for Ari 879 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: at all? Because he won't take those risks not necessarily? 880 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, Ben and I you have 881 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: talked about it's it's hard for me to be critical 882 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: of of Ari or any other batch or just because 883 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: it's so hard to be the lead and there's so 884 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: many things we don't know, invariables, and it's it's easy 885 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: to nitpick, like you know, the way they answered questions, 886 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: so much of of what's talked about isn't aired, you know. Um, 887 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: so it's hard to me for me to be overly critical. Um, 888 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's just kind of he's just kind of 889 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: going through it. I just don't My guess is this 890 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: season is we're going to get all most of our 891 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: entertainment from the women, and I don't think we're gonna 892 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: get a ton from Ari. I mean that's kind of 893 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: that's somewhat truthful in every season, uh is because they 894 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: just don't allow that, you know. Um, and so I 895 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: think that might be just even more heightened on this 896 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: season because I just got the impression that Ari, we'll 897 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: just kind of you know, and I think that's well, 898 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: I think that's why, in all honesty, I was so 899 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: excited for your season, because you were the first person 900 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: in a while that I thought had the confidence, knew 901 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: themselves the most, and and cared enough about the process 902 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: to take those risks. I mean, I I was, I 903 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: kind of did whatever. They just you know, they again 904 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: don't show a lot and you know, I I there 905 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: were conversations I had that I wanted to get aired 906 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: because it showed me having more of an opinion and 907 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: things like that. But like again, I don't get to 908 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: choose what they show or don't show. Obviously you had 909 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: like the drama with Liz early on, and you know, 910 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: the I was willing to take a risk on taking 911 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: Karen far I knew I wasn't get criticist for it, 912 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: but I had my reasons. You know, everyone wanted to 913 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: meet the nanny and she was cool, um, and so 914 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, um, but yeah, it's it's it's tough to 915 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: to criticize. I mean, I will say, you know, we 916 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: talked about this before. Like, I do believe Ari is Sincerian, 917 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 1: is pursued for love. I think every single lead wants 918 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: it like and people are like, oh, like, you don't 919 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: become the lead with the pressure of knowing that everyone 920 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: who watched the show expects you to fall forward and 921 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: not want it like it's terrifying. I mean, I was 922 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: terrified that it wouldn't work out for me. I desperately 923 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: wanted it to work out. Um, you know, and so 924 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: I definitely believe he's sincere in that. Um. I mean 925 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: I don't. I think you make a good point there. 926 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Chris or the show would have a 927 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: lead who they didn't believe really wanted to find somebody 928 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: because that could blow that could blow this whole show up. 929 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: And so I think every lead we have to expect, hey, 930 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: they really care. I think Ari uh cared, maybe so 931 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: much because he feels like this is maybe his last chance. 932 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: Not and it's not. We know that, but I think 933 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: the pressure of all this felt like that to him. 934 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I mean again, I don't 935 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: think I think if if Ari didn't become the Bachelor, 936 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. I don't think anyone becomes 937 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: the batchler because they think this is there they'll never 938 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: find love in the real world. That's I think he feels. 939 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: Once you get asked to be the lead, there's just 940 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: an immense amount of pressure on the expectation of what 941 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: that is. And I think, you know, the show took 942 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: a risk asking r to be the Bachelor, and there's 943 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: immense amount of pressure UM on that. And I think 944 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: and so if nothing else, Yeah, like listen, if it's 945 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet someone, and I think Al takes 946 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: it very seriously, and I he wants it to work out, 947 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: like every lead does. Um. I don't know if he 948 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: wants it more or less than any lead before him. 949 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's has anything other than 950 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: to do with that's the world he agreed to be 951 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: a part of and that's the expectation of the show. UM. 952 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that in any way makes it insincere. UM. 953 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: And I you know, yeah, I mean you're not wrong there. 954 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: I think you're actually spot on. I realized last night 955 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: watching the episode that Ari was not one that was 956 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: going to take many risks. And do you do you 957 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: want to know why? Why's that? Because on his one 958 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: on one day with Crystal. They went back to Scottsdale 959 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: and they visited his apartment, and as they walked into 960 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: his apartment, they walked through his closet, and his closet, 961 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: if you paid close attention, was completely from shoes to 962 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 1: helmets to his shirts color coded. I mean, I'm not kidding, 963 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: you need to watches back. Everything was color coded, which 964 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: tells me one of two things. He has a dark side, 965 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: or the man knows what ye or the man knows 966 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: what he wants and he knows how to represent his wardrobe. 967 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: I actually have my closet color color coded, so I 968 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: cannot you know which is a lot of cardigans apparently 969 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: dresses like Mr Rogers me or him? Alright, he does know. 970 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: I wondered that too. His his wordrobe is not risque 971 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: in itself, so I wanted to bring that up. I 972 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 1: did notice his his closet was color coded. What one 973 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: situation is the bachelor that I never knew how to 974 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: do well. I don't know if anybody knows how to 975 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: do it well. But it also really affected me and 976 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: and my experience was this this the breakups, the saying goodbyes, 977 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: the moments where you have to give no explanation, but 978 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: you're asking somebody to leave. Tonight, we saw Ari at 979 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: the roast ceremony say goodbye to somebody. She walks out, 980 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: no hug, no goodbye, No, hey, this has been great. 981 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: She walks out and wants an explanation, and are are 982 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: all ri you can do is try to hug her, 983 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: which was awkward in itself and are probably not a 984 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 1: great decision there, But hey again, what do you do? 985 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: How do you recommend any bachelor bachelorrette saying goodbye? And 986 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: and does Ari o her an explanation? I thought I 987 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: thought that was a great TV moment um. It was 988 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: a classic case of you can't fire me. I quit 989 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: because she was like, well, I don't even like I'm 990 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: not even upset about you. I just don't want to 991 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: have friends here and I have friends here, which is 992 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: probably true, but like she just felt the need to 993 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: say that. I give ari a lot of credit because 994 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: like that is you think you said it best. It's 995 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: an incredibly awkward situation, and so you're just so used 996 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: to people kind of like quote unquote doing what they're 997 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do, and just like I'm gonna give you 998 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: an instance here hug and say thank you and wish 999 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: you the best of luck and you're gonna leave, but 1000 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: she didn't. And it's just like in that moment, already 1001 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: has this side what do I do? Which like there's 1002 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: no playbook and and you know, I we I think 1003 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: we'd all like to think we would do the same thing, 1004 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: but like I don't know, it could just be like 1005 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: this awkward. Like I don't know, do I make it 1006 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: worse by going over? So I give Area a lot 1007 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: of credit by going and making an attempt, and you know, 1008 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: whether you try to hugg her or whatever, like I don't, 1009 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: that's not on Ari, that's it's just like you said, 1010 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: it's very awkward situation. She thought had andoed herself terribly 1011 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: showed in an immends amount of immature a charity, uh, 1012 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: And like I thought it was really telling that she was, 1013 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: like I've never been broke up with before, and like, 1014 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: clearly I don't know how all this girl is, but 1015 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm guessing she's incredibly young and very immature and has 1016 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: a lot of growing up to do and for future, 1017 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: for future cast members, I think it's important to remember 1018 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: that at most people don't get a lot of memorable 1019 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: moments or air times. But your most memorable moment is 1020 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: always going to be unless you get engaged, when you 1021 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: get dumped, and it has a chance to be either 1022 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: a great moment or a bad moment. I've you know, 1023 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: kind of you could argue, but on the best side 1024 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 1: of both moments. I mean, but yes, she clearly didn't 1025 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: show any type of maturity or gracefulness and in her 1026 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: breakup and uh if for for people go on when 1027 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 1: you get dumped, you know, that's your moment to shine 1028 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: and shows show something that that's it. I mean, that's um. 1029 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: She didn't handle her stuff very well, which it was 1030 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: fun to watch. You know. The goodbye is always hard 1031 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: in the Bachelor because there isn't a lot of explanation. 1032 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of lead up to it. Pretty 1033 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: much for the most part, you're saying goodbye for whatever reasons, 1034 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: and you just hope that there's an understanding that, hey, 1035 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 1: this show has thirty people on it, I'm only gonna 1036 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: hopefully end up with one. There's gonna be a lot 1037 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: of goodbyes. I don't want to say goodbye either. This 1038 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: isn't the fun part for me or the lead. Please 1039 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: make this as easy as possible, and if you want 1040 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: an explanation, maybe reach out later. But that moment, like 1041 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 1: you said, is is is your your shining moment. You 1042 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: know what, Be cordial, say your goodbyes, keep your head 1043 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: held high. You're you're gonna be fine, You're you're gonna 1044 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: be okay. Well, let's let's be honest, like at this point, 1045 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: Ari doesn't know any of these women. He knows Becca 1046 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: a little bit because he went on on a one 1047 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: on one day with there, he knows Crystal a little 1048 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: bit because, but other than that, he doesn't really know 1049 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: any of them yet. The hardest part about being the 1050 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: batchelor sometimes is um, like you're always gonna be drawn 1051 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: to a handful of women and just it's just natural, 1052 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: and it's you try to be open to get to 1053 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: know the rest of the women, but it's harder to do. 1054 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: And women are intuitive and smart and they pick up 1055 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: on that um and you know, so they they're they're 1056 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 1: kind of faking it too in terms of their level 1057 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: of interest for the lead until they get broken up 1058 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: with and they're like, well, I don't even like them, 1059 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: and then they go home and they get on a 1060 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: group chat with all their other you know, early exit 1061 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: friends and like just talk crap about you know, Ari 1062 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: and and and all the girls who are still there. 1063 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: Like it happens every season. Um, there's always an immediate 1064 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: group chatte I mean for my season, one of the 1065 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: breakups that stood out to me the most was when 1066 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: were in bar Uh, this beautiful young lady from Oklahoma 1067 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: said goodbye. She just wanted to leave, she wanted to 1068 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: go home. It wasn't for it's a power move. But 1069 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: it also affected me because that was weak, I think 1070 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: two and I was questioning myself not at that point, 1071 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: is this gonna happen to me over and over and 1072 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: over again? Is this is this? Is this gonna be 1073 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: a constant this season? Yeah, luckily that didn't happen to me. 1074 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, because you're you're told it doesn't mean anything. 1075 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: It just means that maybe they that's maybe just I'm 1076 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: sure there are plenty of girls who are like, he 1077 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: doesn't even like me, but I hate him, you know 1078 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: who knows, right, But like that's the show is like 1079 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: you're told that you're the guy or the man, and 1080 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: everyone's there is like I can't believe it's you and 1081 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: you're so great And then like and that was when 1082 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: someone leaves. I mean, like that would just mess with 1083 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: your psyche. Um you handle yourself well, then thank you 1084 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: having a power moved by that Lauren girl, like you know, 1085 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: who is this? Like who sincirely was like I'm out, 1086 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm out from this dude that I'm gone listen. But 1087 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: also like you probably weren't giving her any time and 1088 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 1: she probably knew it and she beat you to the punch. 1089 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, I think for the exit where she's 1090 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: she told Ari, Hey, I have a lot of friends here, 1091 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm not that upset about you. In a sense is 1092 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: a power move as well, and so we got to 1093 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: give her a little credit. I don't think so credit. 1094 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: That was just like you can't fire me, I quit 1095 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: so so Nick, good for you to finish this up. Then, 1096 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, how is ari 1097 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: as the bachelor so far? I don't know. I don't 1098 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: feel that was so weak. I think you don't feel 1099 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: like making headlines? What else would you invite you on 1100 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: the podcast with you and rumor willis while we're at it? 1101 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 1: Friend just everybody was talking about it because you posted 1102 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: a photo with it. Yeah, she's just a good friend. 1103 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean not just she's a great friend, she's awesome. 1104 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: You walked into that season. I gave you a one 1105 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: to ten. All you have to do is give give 1106 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: a positive number. Instead, Amy just crushes you with, Hey, 1107 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: what's this gossip of about? Oh? I got way more 1108 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: secrets than that. All right, So Nick, we want to 1109 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: go into one of our favorite segments, and that is 1110 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: taking reading emails from our listeners. But before you do, 1111 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 1: I want you to give me right now, who's your 1112 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: top choice of cast members on the Bachelor and who 1113 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: is someone on the batchelor right now that gives you hesitancy. 1114 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about hesitancy. I'll start with but listen, 1115 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: it's fun to watch the women who are creating good TV. 1116 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if they give me hesitancy. 1117 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, uh, I don't think Lauria Ari's gonna end 1118 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: up with Crystal. Who's the other who's the young lady, 1119 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 1: who's a mother? Who? You know? I think it's gonna 1120 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: be an entertaining show because, like you have in this week, 1121 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: you have a lot of personalities, a lot of women who, 1122 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: like you know, Chelsea, you watch episode one, You're like, oh, 1123 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: here's your villain, and then all of a sudden Episode two, 1124 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: you got Crystal and you're like, oh, here's another villain. 1125 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, then you have no chill freaking out, and 1126 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: then you said you have some other other moments. So 1127 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting. None of these women, 1128 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: I think really are probably gonna win or capture are 1129 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: his heart. But who knows. Um, I don't know. If 1130 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: they give me hesitancy. I hope there's more of it. 1131 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: I hope they stick around for a while. Um. In 1132 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: terms of you know, Becca, both Becca's, I mean I think, um, 1133 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: the Becca who had the one on one day, she 1134 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 1: just seems like, you know, someone who again she has 1135 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: has some confidence, she seems mature. They seem to hit 1136 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: it off. You know. Again, we've already talked about her 1137 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: sticking around. I think we are on the same page 1138 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: that the other Becca. Um, well, you know, it's too 1139 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: young and will be kind of the her fate. But 1140 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: to me, she's easily she's the only one who really 1141 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: stands out. I mean, she's you know, and you know, 1142 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that means either Ben and I want 1143 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: to you know, meet Becca in that sense, but well 1144 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: there you mean you're you're fairly age appropriate. Um. But 1145 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: she's to me the only one who really stands out 1146 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: in terms of I think in Yeah, the rest I'm 1147 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: not don't. I can't really remember, I'm sure. More it's 1148 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: early on, so it's hard to have anyone stand out. 1149 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: So again, it's I think it says more about Becca 1150 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: standing out this early on, um, just because she clearly 1151 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: has something going for in that sense, and she's probably 1152 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: just been that type of person who's always stood out. Um. 1153 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think as as the season progresses 1154 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: will have we'll get introduced to more women and more 1155 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: personalities and their stories and and things like that. All Right, 1156 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: So I want to give my top girls Number one. 1157 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: C n She's she's an Ivy League grad, she got 1158 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: the group they rose, She's been a little quiet so far. 1159 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: I find her absolutely beautiful and very very intriguing. Um. 1160 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in order, so I have a top 1161 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: five here. Uh. Next is one that I don't know. Guys. 1162 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 1: Nick doesn't want to create headlines, but I might have to. Um, 1163 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: I think this tea girl is something special. Which one 1164 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: she's guys, you're really crushing my moment. Raven's friend. The 1165 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: one who arm tattoo. Yeah, she's very very interesting, funny, Uh, beautiful. 1166 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know she she might have a future. Yeah, 1167 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: let's not forget the original Becca. I'm moving on. Yeah, Brittany, Brittany, 1168 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: the one from last week that I thought maybe went home. 1169 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: There must have been another Brittany that went home. Brittany 1170 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: is great, Marie owns the restaurant. Uh, stunningly beautiful. Here's 1171 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: one for you. No chill, Bibiana. I mean that girl, 1172 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: she's got something special. I know she's she's aggressive, I 1173 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: know she's fierce. I'm not saying it's bad, she just no. 1174 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: But I watched her, and I say, girl, you get 1175 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: it like you just keep causing drama and I'm gonna 1176 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: keep watching. You should have been the Bachelor yet. Um? Yeah, 1177 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: the original Becca obviously, uh is one of a kind. 1178 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Original one on one Um. Yeah, one on one Becca, 1179 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: call her their original? Yeah, the original the top dog. Um. 1180 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: And then here's the ones that give me hesitancy and 1181 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: and I mean hesitancy in the in the sense of 1182 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like it's early on. We don't 1183 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: know them fully. We've liked them at times, maybe I 1184 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: haven't And I'm a little nervous. Chelsea, the mom I 1185 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: thought had Episode two was one that I go, Okay, 1186 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I can see it now she's she's great. She was 1187 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: nervous night one because she didn't want to tell her 1188 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: she had a kid. Now that she said that, we're 1189 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna start to see her real personality and I think 1190 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 1: she might shine. But she still gives me hesitancy. Uh 1191 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: mickel Um, you know obviously just we didn't see a 1192 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: lot from her week two. She she was the one 1193 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: that drove up in in the fancy car on night one, 1194 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: flipped her hair around a little bit. Yeah. She She 1195 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: was in the news this week apologizing for um a 1196 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: picture she posts on Instagram years ago. So yeah, Mickelson, 1197 01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: it was appropriately racist. Yeah so what she yeah? Um? 1198 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: And then we have Crystal. Crystal was one that I 1199 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: know we talked about a little bit ago. There's just 1200 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: something different there And I don't know why she won't 1201 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: just be friendly and day ari and chill a little bit. 1202 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: I actually will call her my no chill number two. Um, 1203 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 1: she's just vocal fry. So that's that's that's why I 1204 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: got top CNTA, Brittany Marieke and Bibbie, Anna and then 1205 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: the original Becca. Hey, everybody. Before we're moving the emails, 1206 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I need to tell you about Latote. Question for you, 1207 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: are you wearing clothing that is old and looks worn 1208 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: out because you don't have time to shop? I mean, 1209 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: we're all very busy. Uh. 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Hey, everybody, let's read 1245 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: some listener emails. I want to start here with one 1246 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: called suspicious in Seattle, says so amped watch our season, 1247 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: hoping the womanizer rumors would be put to rest. Well. 1248 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: To my surprise, are tagged the young woman on his 1249 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Snapchat story in New York City between on New Year's Eve. 1250 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Between his and her Instagram, there were multiple pictures of 1251 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 1: them spending time together in on New Year's Eve in 1252 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: New York City. One of hers was even captured calling 1253 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: him daddy. Oh jeez. Anyways, who is this a Bachelor handler, 1254 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: a friend, a date? I need to know? Is he 1255 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: really a change man? Or is this a sign that 1256 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,439 Speaker 1: his venture didn't end with love. I figured if anyone 1257 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: can get to the bottom of it, it would be 1258 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: producer Amy, producer, what do you think? What's yeah? I 1259 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: recognized the girl as somebody like a producer or something. Yeah, 1260 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: she's a producer on the she's a producer on the show. Um. 1261 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They were there in New York City for 1262 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. Nothing because he was there for work 1263 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: promoting The Bachelor. He was on Good Morning America the 1264 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: next day. She was there with him. Of course she's 1265 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: going to go and be his friend and hang out 1266 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: during that evening. It was nothing. It's a hand it's 1267 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a handler producer from the show. Uh, they were just 1268 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: having a good time. Don't look too much into it. Okay, 1269 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: here's one from Skyler, Ben and Nick. For the past 1270 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: few seasons, the bachelors always seemed to give the first 1271 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: impression rows to the women who don't get along with 1272 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: the other girls, the ones who are aggressive, out spoken 1273 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: in know what they want with the acceptance. With the 1274 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: exception of Sean and Nick, wand Pablo gave it to Charlene, Krista, 1275 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: britt Bend Olivia and now Ari to Chelsea. It makes 1276 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: me wonder to producers recommend who to give the rose too. 1277 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: And then bachelrettes seem to have a very good sense 1278 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: of the men in the beginning, with the exception of 1279 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: Andy and Desiree, who both gave it to the runner ups. 1280 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 1: Caitlin give it to Sean, Jojo to Jordan, and Rachel 1281 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to Brian. Just interesting, just an interesting observation. Would like 1282 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: to hear from you guys, thoughts on why this is well. 1283 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: First off, it's very clear Skyler, women are more intuitive 1284 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: than men. That's just true. So of course they're going 1285 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: to give it to the right people. And of course 1286 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the wrong gave mine to Rachel. 1287 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: That's not a bad call, I mean no, So to 1288 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: answer the question here, uh, and I'll answer for Nick. 1289 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: And I know the producers don't recommend. They can't recommend. Obviously, 1290 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: we don't know these women fully, we know what we've seen, 1291 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: and I think, as we talked about on last week's podcast, 1292 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: women that are a little more outspoken, a little more 1293 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: forward on Night one definitely come off as somebody more 1294 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: invested into the experience. And so I think our poll 1295 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: as the Bachelor is going to be okay. That women's 1296 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: woman seems to be here for the right reasons, and 1297 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: as a result, I want to make sure to invest 1298 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: in this relationship and to let her know that I care. Um, Bachelor, 1299 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: that's just a really smart I don't know. Yeah, they've 1300 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: made some really good decisions now I read this email back. 1301 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: There's also like different reasons why people might give out 1302 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: the first impression ros you know, elite a leader could 1303 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: give it to someone who finds intriguing, but they're not 1304 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: even sure if if they could easily be more into 1305 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: other people and give someone else the first impression rolls, 1306 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: advice you know, or you know, and some people could 1307 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: literally just say that this is the person I like 1308 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the most, you know, I mean, that's why I'm watching 1309 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: the show is you're watching the whole story play out, 1310 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: so from night one on who he's into first or 1311 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: who she's into first, to the very end when we 1312 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: get the final conclusion the show. That's why we watched this. 1313 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Perfect decisions won't always exist, but the bleed tries I 1314 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: would assume very hard. Nick on with the next email, 1315 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it's from Elizabeth. From Elizabeth, Hey, Ben and Nick. 1316 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Have you all seen what the ladies who got sent 1317 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: home night one from our season have created? See at 1318 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 1: the Rose Girls or at the Underscore Rose Girls on Instagram. 1319 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: They also have a YouTube channel. Really well, I haven't 1320 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: fully investigated because I was too stunned and have to 1321 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: check in immediately and we see if all you If 1322 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: y'all new, and hope you could share your thoughts on 1323 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the next podcast. The fact that the ladies sent home 1324 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: night one can now ride the fame train is unreal 1325 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: to me. This is adding a whole new element to 1326 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 1: the social experiment that is The Bachelor. How do you 1327 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 1: think this will affect the show in casting? In the future. 1328 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing your thoughts in talents in broadcasting, journalism, podcasting, blogging, etcetera, etcetera. 1329 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: With the world best allies. Um, I don't think this 1330 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: is anything new. I think it's just more of the same. 1331 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: It's I think it's it's it's typical. Every every person 1332 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: who goes on the show. Um, I think more than anything, 1333 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: is open to love but excited about this new experience. 1334 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're only going to be famous. It 1335 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: just means they're going on for this thing. And the 1336 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: people who get sent home early on, especially at one, 1337 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: are it's hard. It's it's it's certainly their egos that 1338 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: are certainly shot down. Um, you listen, it's it's silly. 1339 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: Yes and no, they're not going to ride the fame 1340 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: train because they have known none and no one cares 1341 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: about it. Almost yeah, they're not even they're not remotely famous, 1342 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: and certainly comes across as a little thirsty and you know, lame, 1343 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: But there's there's some solidarity. I think they're just there's 1344 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: just hope and maybe strength and numbers. It's just like 1345 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: whatever I mean, not to be too like, you know, 1346 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: not to be overly critical, like I think there's just 1347 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment, and yeah, they're trying to make 1348 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the most of it. I don't think it is going 1349 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: to affect casting. This isn't the first time. Um, the 1350 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: women who got sent home early like tried to make 1351 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the most of their experience. The man. I remember a 1352 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: hashtag that was the Rose Boys. It's not yeah, exclusive 1353 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: with the women anyway. They're like, you're gonna find people 1354 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: who go home early go going on as many podcasts 1355 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: as they can possibly go on. I don't even cares, 1356 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: just like, we'll go, you know, because they're just trying 1357 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 1: to maximize their time, of which they didn't. They probably 1358 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 1: went into the show with a lot of hopes and 1359 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,600 Speaker 1: dreams that you immediately got crushed. So I'm not, you know, 1360 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 1: judging it's not gonna go anywhere. It's It's typical. It 1361 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 1: happens every single series. I would just I mean, my one, 1362 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: my one if I can give my advice, would be 1363 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: I agree, it doesn't. It's not uncommon. However, they spent 1364 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of money on some videos. I watched these 1365 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: videos when I saw this email, and I watched the 1366 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: videos back. There's there's some high production value in them, 1367 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 1: so I'm worried that they've all invested a lot of 1368 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: money and and they're hoping to get a return out 1369 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: of it. I would just advise anybody, Hey, don't go 1370 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: on the show because you think you're gonna you're gonna 1371 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 1: get famous from it. It happens very rarely, if at all. 1372 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: The luck involved. There's a lot of luck involved. There's 1373 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of being in the right place at the 1374 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,600 Speaker 1: right time. Just do it because it's a cool experience, 1375 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: but don't go into it thinking this is gonna change 1376 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,839 Speaker 1: your life. I've said it many times on this podcast. 1377 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: The best advice I has ever given was do this 1378 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 1: whole experience to enhance the left you already had. Not 1379 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,879 Speaker 1: change your life completely. Uh, if you weren't making YouTube 1380 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: videos before, I wouldn't recommend doing it because of the show. Nick. 1381 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I think we have one more email for either from tests. Hi. 1382 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old and perpetually single. I do 1383 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: my best to say positive and understand that timing is everything. 1384 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. To disagree with that, UM, 1385 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: know yourself first. Each year I get older, the more 1386 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the fear of being alone presses on me, like not 1387 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: finding someone who is a real thing without settling. What 1388 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: advice do you have for myself and others like me 1389 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 1: who are feeling discouraged? Thank you for reading and keep 1390 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Tests well tests. Uh, you're only 1391 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven, So first and foremost, I know a couple 1392 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 1: of things that I kind of say. I get that 1393 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: you feel old because today is the oldest you've ever been, 1394 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: But you're only um, so when you're thirty five, you'll 1395 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: look back and think how young felt Um. So you're 1396 01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: not that old, so you'll be fine. Um. Second of all, yeah, 1397 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean listen. I also say one thing that people 1398 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,640 Speaker 1: forget when when they have relationships don't work out is 1399 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: that if you're really, really really lucky. Uh. And I 1400 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: think Alm stole us in from me in this book. 1401 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 1: He got this from me. But if you're really really lucky, 1402 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: at most, you'll only have one relationship your life that 1403 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: doesn't fail. One. That's the most. It's the most possible. 1404 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: Unless you know someone dies, it's not necessarily a failure, 1405 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and you meet someone else, but that's it. You can 1406 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: only have one. So the fact that you're twenty seven 1407 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: and you you haven't found that one yet, it's not 1408 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 1: that big of a deal and in a good way. 1409 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: So just keep doing what you're doing. It eventually happened. Um, 1410 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: don't stress about it's probably the worst thing you can do. 1411 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 1: And um, you know, enjoy being twenty seven, have some fun, 1412 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: make some bad choices, and then you know, when you're 1413 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: thirty years old, you know he'll come come running. You know. 1414 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 1: The book that Nick dis reverenced to is Buy a 1415 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Long Gael. It's called You're Not That Great, great book. 1416 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,759 Speaker 1: And but neither is anyone else along as a producer 1417 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,040 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, and he is also one of the 1418 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 1: people that will usually sit there and there's one on 1419 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 1: one interviews and and dive to the heart of your 1420 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 1: fears and your insecurities. Go check out his book. Um, 1421 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: but I would agree. I just want to add to 1422 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that is let's start accepting singleness and saying there's actually 1423 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of benefit to it. Um, you get to 1424 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 1: explore who you are better, You get a lot of 1425 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: time to process and think. Uh, your schedule is pretty 1426 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 1: much your own without a few you know, side activities. 1427 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: Singleness can be a very positive experience. And don't waste 1428 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,839 Speaker 1: this time or this season of singleness because you're hoping 1429 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: for a relationship, I would. I just think that's something 1430 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm learning right now too, is be in the present moment, 1431 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 1: focus on where you're at now, become the person that 1432 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 1: you need to be for yourself so you can be 1433 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: that person for somebody else later. And don't don't compare 1434 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: yourself to others. I mean, I don't know if if 1435 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: tests you know, has a circle of friends is where 1436 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: they're all married and having kids already, And so even 1437 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: though she's only twenty seven and relatively young, she feels 1438 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 1: a lot older because everyone else is at different stages 1439 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: in their life and that can happen. And if that 1440 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: is the case, um, get more friends. Um you know, yeah, 1441 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of the journey of life and 1442 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 1: it's just between to learn about yourself. But I think 1443 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: it's just important not to stress yourself out. And um 1444 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: uses an opportunity to you know, and not maybe find 1445 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: new friends, but like it is an opportunity to take 1446 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: advantage of, like Ben said, of of being single and 1447 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: have new adventures because even though maybe you want to 1448 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: get married and have a kid, you'll be the one 1449 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 1: person who's like your friends live vicariously through you because 1450 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 1: You're doing all this fun, single and exciting things and 1451 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: they're like not um, not to you know, discourage that. Yeah, 1452 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: grass is always greener. Is something that I think our 1453 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: generation uh needs to deal with and see that the 1454 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,800 Speaker 1: shiny new thing isn't always the best thing, but we're 1455 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: always gonna want the shiny new thing. Hey, we'll one 1456 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: last email. This one is really interesting to me, and 1457 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: I think Nick and I we got to prepare for 1458 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 1: a little tough love. I'm gonna read it here. It's 1459 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 1: from Jessica. I've been in a relationship for three years 1460 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: with a man who I love. The relationship is, for 1461 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 1: the most part great. For the most part, it's a 1462 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: relationship I've been I've dreamt up, except that about a 1463 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 1: year into our relationship, my friend discovered him on Plenty 1464 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: of Fish, which is a dating app, and Ashley Madison 1465 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: trying to find other girls. I was devastated. I planned 1466 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: to break up with him. He begged me not to 1467 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: when I confronted him and promised me he would never 1468 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: cheat and that he will never go on another dating site. 1469 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: At that time, we're in a long distant relationship and 1470 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: I found out I was moving the same city as him, 1471 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: so I chalked the whole thing up too. We were 1472 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: only together on weekends, so it would be different now 1473 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: that we're in the same city. Fast forward four months later, 1474 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: I snooped through his email and found that he had 1475 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 1: signed up for another dating site. He said his account 1476 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: was hacked. Fast forward another nine months after this, and 1477 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: I snooped through his phone and he had good old 1478 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 1: Best hookup site, and then he was looking for hookups 1479 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 1: on Craiglist and plenty of Fish. I love him so much, 1480 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,560 Speaker 1: of course you do. The thought of breaking up is 1481 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 1: so sad. I'd like to mention that he's literally treats 1482 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: me like a queen. And I don't think he's actually 1483 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: cheating because we were so we're together so often. I 1484 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 1: don't think he could. But I wonder if he's addicted 1485 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 1: to seeing what else is out there. Should I end this? 1486 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 1: Please help? Can I can Nick take this away? Be honest, 1487 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: because I think this email requires honesty, Jessica. If I 1488 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: were to sum up my advice into one word, it 1489 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: would be run um, listen, listen, We've all been there. 1490 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 1: No judgment. I get where you're coming from. I think 1491 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: your ego is messing with you. A little bit. Um, 1492 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 1: this guy is a terrible human being. She's been with 1493 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 1: him for a long time. It sounds like he checks 1494 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the boxes of things that she wants, 1495 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 1: And there's probably a lot of great things about the relationship, 1496 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 1: but she's right now deciding to ignore a lot of 1497 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 1: the terrible things. And maybe there's a lot of fears 1498 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,519 Speaker 1: of like, you know, the fear of being single, like 1499 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the fear of admitting to yourself this is not the 1500 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 1: perfect relationship that you you thought it was. Um, there's 1501 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: some things with your ego in terms of I don't 1502 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: think he's capable of cheating on me. Of course, he's 1503 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: capable of cheating on you, like everyone, Like everyone is 1504 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: capable of being cheated on. No one's so great or 1505 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: special that you know someone wouldn't possibly cheat on them. 1506 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 1: It's it's happened to the best of us. Um, so 1507 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 1: I think just it's tough to admit that to yourself. Um. Yeah, 1508 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 1: it was a long distance relationship. This guy is aggressively 1509 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: trying to meet other women, and you're just his side girl, 1510 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, jess U and Um, you're his comfort, 1511 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 1: you're his Netflix and chill. You're the girl he gets 1512 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 1: to go on the dates with and pretend like. There's 1513 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there who like I don't 1514 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 1: get it. It's too much effort. Why guys will have 1515 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: relationship and and still like date other women Because it's 1516 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: too hard to make a success relationship work. Um, but 1517 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: some guys do. And so you're his Netflix and Show person, 1518 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, the person who he does relationship things with, 1519 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: and he gets to meet other women. UM. So this 1520 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 1: is a toxic and terrible situation that you're in that 1521 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 1: um I won't last. And if I can give you 1522 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 1: any final thoughts of of hope, is that I can 1523 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 1: promise you one thing I know, you won't end up 1524 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: with this guy. You might make a terrible decision get engaged, 1525 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: you might make an even worse terrible decision and get married, 1526 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: And you might make an even worse terrible decision like 1527 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: have a family with him. But eventually this relationship will end, 1528 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,879 Speaker 1: hopefully sooner than later. When it does end and time passes, 1529 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 1: he will look back and be mad at yourself that 1530 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: you weren't more honest with yourself about the reality of 1531 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,679 Speaker 1: the situation. And you will cry and laugh, but most importantly, 1532 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: just be happy he's no longer in your life that much. 1533 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that was beautiful, that was honest, 1534 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 1: and that was that was And I think Jessica just 1535 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: tad on the Nick is listen to to Nick. I mean, 1536 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: I think that's coming from a place where we have 1537 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 1: this on adulterated view of where this relationship is. We 1538 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: have this view from from a very high level based 1539 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: on an email. And what Nick is saying is don't 1540 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: you can like and you can love somebody, But when 1541 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,760 Speaker 1: you see the signs like this, especially when they're this 1542 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 1: um deep and dark and there could this consistent, it's 1543 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: it's time to go, no matter how much it hurts. 1544 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: So also listen to yourself. Give yourself some credit in 1545 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 1: the sense that this advice for anyone at the moment 1546 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: you feel then urge to check someone's messages, emails, text 1547 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: or anything. The relationships over um because there's a reason 1548 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,839 Speaker 1: why you're doing it, and maybe they're not necessarily doing anything, 1549 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,519 Speaker 1: but there's something toxic about the relationship that's making you 1550 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: do something that that that you're better than UM. So 1551 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: listen to yourself. There's something a part of you is 1552 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 1: telling you there's something wrong here. Your ego is telling 1553 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 1: you that it's not you know, because your ego doesn't 1554 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 1: want you to think that you can be in this 1555 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,760 Speaker 1: terrible relationship or be do by this asshole, our guy 1556 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 1: or this jerk or whatever. Um. But listen to yourself, 1557 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 1: because there is a part of you is telling you 1558 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the the the telling you the right thing to do, 1559 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: the urge to to email and ask these questions. You 1560 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 1: know the answer, and I think you just have to 1561 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 1: have the courage and the guts to do their to 1562 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: do the right thing. Hey, everybody, this has been an 1563 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: incredible podcast. I want to thank Nick for coming in 1564 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,600 Speaker 1: and hanging out with us today. Yes please, uh what 1565 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 1: what an awesome opportunity for us on this podcast to 1566 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: have Nick in here to talk about the Bachelor, to 1567 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 1: break down the Bachelor, because I think, just like Ari did, 1568 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: Nick took this experience very seriously, was close to his heart, 1569 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: and his life has been affected in and because of 1570 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,680 Speaker 1: the show. And so Nick, thank you for coming in 1571 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: and you're sharing your heart with us and talking about 1572 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,759 Speaker 1: a show that you and I have both participated in. Also, 1573 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 1: please keep those emails coming. We enjoy them, we need them. Uh. 1574 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 1: I love reading through them. This is a fun segment 1575 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: for us, so email us at Ben and Ashley at 1576 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,480 Speaker 1: I heart media dot com. I want to thank our sponsors, 1577 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: Sleep Number, Litote and bio Clarity. Finally, ash will be 1578 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 1: back next week and we'll break down episode three of 1579 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: our season, which is actually season four, episode three for 1580 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 1: this podcast. How crazy Will we ever leave you alone? 1581 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I hope we don't. Until then, 1582 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I've been been and you've been Nick. Hey. Thanks everybody. 1583 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 1: Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 1584 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.