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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to a point game

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Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings. Now, don't forget. DraftKings is your home

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Speaker 1: for all the action across the NBA and gets you

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Speaker 1: closer to the game we all love. The crown is yours. I'm,

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Speaker 1: of course your host CJ Toldono and I'm joined here

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Speaker 1: by my co host again, the Man, the myth of legend,

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Speaker 1: the reason why we have this show. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: John Wall, John, how you doing, Man?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Man?

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Speaker 3: I'm good Man, happy to be back. Get to another episode. Man,

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Speaker 3: get these people what they're asking for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you know, we've been putting out

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Speaker 1: clips and put the episode out nothing but positive reactions.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to hear your stories. And I'm like, I've

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Speaker 1: just been like creating an inventory of stories I like

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Speaker 1: looked up and read about. So again this is this

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Speaker 1: has been a pleasure. I'm excited we still got this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, Bro, Like I told you, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: we able to collab on this and do something special.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Man, I'm just authentic, authentic, like to

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Speaker 3: get the people what they want to hear, the stories

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Speaker 3: I've been through, what I've been through, throughout the league,

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Speaker 3: growing up as a kid, college and all that that

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Speaker 3: experience that a lot of people don't get opportunity to see.

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Speaker 3: So man, it's a blessing to be up here man,

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Speaker 3: And like you know, I mean my due time, i'mna join.

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Speaker 1: You love it. And so another reason why I'm happy

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Speaker 1: that we're doing this is like, you're you're a dude

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Speaker 1: who's you've met and played with some of the greatest

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Speaker 1: in the game, and so like your rolodex is crazy,

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Speaker 1: and we're really excited with this episode. We have our

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Speaker 1: first ever guest, one of your longtime friends teammates, DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Boogie Cousins, will be joining us later in the show.

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Speaker 1: We already got some previews with some of the stories,

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Speaker 1: so I just wanted to tease that how exciting it's

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Speaker 1: going to be to have Boogy on later.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's gonna be lit. Bro, Like that's somebody

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Speaker 3: I'll call my brother for sure, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We got this thing. We stand for three a for life,

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Speaker 3: the Three Amigos meet him and Aaron Blaso. So just

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Speaker 3: to be able to have that around and have that platform,

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Speaker 3: and it's been amazing and to call somebody like that

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Speaker 3: a brother, since I've known for a long time, it

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Speaker 3: means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: Sope. Okay, Well, so when we first started this pod,

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Speaker 1: we were in All Star break, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about the All Star Game or whatever. But finally

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Speaker 1: the season is back, we're out of the break, games

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Speaker 1: have happened, and so I wanted to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on some stuff. Okay, so we'll talk about the wins

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Speaker 1: and loss or whatever, but I did want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on this last week. I think it was

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Speaker 1: a Suns Mavericks game. KD is running out the tunnel

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Speaker 1: and a fan I don't want to say the word.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to hurt anyone sponsors,

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Speaker 1: but some a fan yelled out the B word to

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and then KAD walked up and confront him.

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Speaker 1: Because again I don't need to remind everyone, but players

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Speaker 1: are humans. For what did you guys? What did you

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Speaker 1: think of that? John? And have you ever had anything

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Speaker 1: like that happen to you while playing.

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Speaker 3: End of the Day Man, Like I try to tell people,

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Speaker 3: were just people that's talented and very special and blessed

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Speaker 3: to be. We are in opposition to be good at

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Speaker 3: a sport, you know what I mean. But in the day,

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Speaker 3: we still humans. We go through everything everybody else go through,

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Speaker 3: and that's disrespectful, you know what I mean. Like end

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Speaker 3: of the day, I think a lot of times like they

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Speaker 3: want us to not say nothing, but like we want

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Speaker 3: to be respectful to those people. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: fans got to be respectful us, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like they pay money. We know they drinking at the game,

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Speaker 3: they having fun, they eating and talking trash and that's

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Speaker 3: all fine, handy Danny, But we still got kids at home,

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Speaker 3: We still have a wife or a girlfriend now, and

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Speaker 3: we're never trying to do anything to harm them. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, you can't disrespect us in that way.

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Speaker 3: And I think Katie handled would a mana Like they

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Speaker 3: real now, Like so keep that same energy that you

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Speaker 3: But like come on, bro, Like you've been disrespectful, Like

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Speaker 3: Clippers last year in a Detroit right yeah, and one

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Speaker 3: guy was like, come on, John, you only got thirteen points.

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Speaker 2: That ain't enough. That ain't enough.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, bro, this ain't my job on his

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Speaker 3: not my job. And I'm like, I'm doing what they

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Speaker 3: you can't be a fan, you can't be a band

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Speaker 3: whacking like which one you're gonna be like you're gonna

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Speaker 3: like picking too. So you know, me just commentating and

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Speaker 3: like I was a mac because he didn't call me

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Speaker 2: He was just talking basketball and that was cool with me.

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Speaker 3: But they gotta learn how to keep it respectful, bro,

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Speaker 3: because like end of the day, like we still human beings,

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Speaker 3: we still got families, we still got kids at home,

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Speaker 3: and like what if Katie had a kid and his

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Speaker 3: son asked, like, Yo, you let that person talk to

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Speaker 3: a thing line between that. I think they make it

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Speaker 3: control that a little better, but in day, you still

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Speaker 3: can't control what people are gonna do once they buy

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Speaker 3: And I think they handled the world like where they're

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Speaker 3: kicking people out and things like that and bandon them

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I that's the argument that a lot of

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Speaker 1: these fans will say is like I paid money to

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Speaker 1: yell at another human being. You paid money to watch

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Speaker 1: the game of basketball. So I just you know, when

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Speaker 1: took it back, like I gotta sports part, it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like okay, they said, like if I go to.

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Speaker 3: A speech you having somewhere right and you walking out,

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Speaker 3: they call your name when you walk out, and I'd

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Speaker 3: if I'm coming to your environment and being disrespect from

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Speaker 3: being rude, Like it's cool if you talk a lit

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Speaker 3: chad and me say that you got I'm fine. I

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Speaker 3: can handle that, you know, I mean, it's basketball. But

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Speaker 3: I think nobody should. And that's the same as if

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Speaker 3: people gotta look at it. But you know, some people

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Speaker 3: to each his own, But I think KD handled it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've read for them the story. Like KD,

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Speaker 1: they were trying to kick out the people, which good,

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Speaker 1: but then Katie was like, let him stay, and so

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Speaker 1: you know, you can tell me better. But players go

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Speaker 3: You go through it with you go through that away

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Speaker 3: games and sometimes you might go through their home games,

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Speaker 3: like don't let you be on a bad team and

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Speaker 3: I don't want to shoot the ball like they might

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Speaker 3: But that's the nature and the part of the game.

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Speaker 3: Like these people be real true friends, like fans that

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Speaker 3: really love the game. That's a big difference. But to

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Speaker 3: and someone I don't like, but like I respect KD

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Speaker 3: because he could have got them kicked out, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Like now they pay their money. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So another story that happened last week the

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Speaker 1: Heat Pelicans fight. Now, I don't even know. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I remember you getting that many fights when you

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Speaker 3: For me, it was funny because the fight all started

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Speaker 3: because the Pelicans felt like Zion got fouled the wrong way,

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Speaker 3: guys went through all this and like I don't think

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Speaker 2: So it's like we went through all this for what

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But but I respected though, because like Najie Marshall, like

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Speaker 3: I know him from DC and stuff, like he's stepping

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Speaker 3: Like Zion is a superstar on their team or starting

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler's the bruiser, one of those guys that backed

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Speaker 3: down from nobody. I loven't respect the way he plays,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, what he brings to the game

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Speaker 3: every night, So you know he's stepping in there, he

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Speaker 3: ain't backing away, and then you see a choke, You're.

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Speaker 2: Like whoa, whoa, what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Like so that turned Jimmy to another beast and then

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Speaker 3: you know, Nasee wasn't backing down, being from where he's from.

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Speaker 3: So I don't ever think nobody really gonna fight, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's just you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he did bad at whatever's going on, and it's a

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Speaker 3: part of the game. I don't think nobody really is

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Speaker 3: gonna throw no punches, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 3: this ain't the old days when they really was throwing punches,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like now it's a little different.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember coming across the lane, you get hit

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Speaker 3: with a shoulder, right, get up, like we ain't call

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Speaker 3: him that, like, you know what I mean. So it's

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Speaker 3: a lot different. I think the game is changing. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's evolving. But I don't think that was too bad.

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Speaker 3: It was too bad. It was just a little conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever get in a fight?

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Speaker 3: But I had like a lot of competition, a lot

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Speaker 2: We I want to go dinner somewhere, you know where

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Speaker 3: You want to see somebody, So it's really nothing, bro Like,

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Speaker 3: if people really was on that, you know where to

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Speaker 1: Right, That's why I always feel like there's a lot

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Speaker 3: That'd be tough, tough, tough, right, right, So they be

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Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh no, I'm trying to fight, Like

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Speaker 2: You capping? Bro? Like we could have been unshot the

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Speaker 3: Got this over with, but you ain't on that Like

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Speaker 3: it's cool, Like I ain't mad, I don't I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying guys anybody won't fight. They have to, But it's

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Speaker 3: Nobody trying to lose no check like that.

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Speaker 1: But is there like I don't want you don't got

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Speaker 1: the name names if you don't have to, but I'd

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Speaker 3: Another story, bro, that's what I ain't nobody, I'm be honest.

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Speaker 3: I met Jame Johnson. He is that way for its bro,

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Speaker 3: he won those ones. I don't think nobody won't smoke with.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember him. Serge got into it one time,

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Speaker 3: I think Toronto. They was in Toronto and Serage swung

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Speaker 3: we're good, were good, We're good. We do so, Like

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, certain ones, you know who

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Speaker 3: Like they know who they really won't smoke with.

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Speaker 2: They don't what was the story?

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Speaker 1: Did I cut you out? We're you gonna tell you?

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Speaker 2: I got it?

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Speaker 3: Like It's funny because in quench as my guy, bro,

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Speaker 3: I took business the Bay when Quincy was there, I

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Speaker 3: But I think this in the heat of the moment,

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Speaker 3: me and Booger got into it before in college. Like

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, still love of this game, bro,

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Speaker 3: Like brother's gonna fight, people gonna fight?

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Speaker 2: Are you back and forth? Uh? Ain't nobody gonna be perfect? Bro?

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Speaker 3: But like I don't think nobody really wants to do anything.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day, you would have seen some blows

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I said. I remember in that they

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Speaker 1: Kobe like he told everyone, I'm going at how you

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Speaker 1: we're seeing how much love and like Powe you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, real family.

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Speaker 1: But like they were brothers then and Kobe went right

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Speaker 1: a weird way, that's a little bit of love. Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no love, Like that's what I try to tell you.

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Speaker 3: But like like bug e Blid play all those guys

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Speaker 3: when I'm in the league, bro, Like no, you're not

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Speaker 3: my friend right now, we're gonn Dapple up for the game, coopl.

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Speaker 3: But let's get to it, like we can talk about

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Speaker 3: we can jitter afterwards between those lines. That's how I

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Speaker 3: feeding my family, I mean, and they doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So there's nothing against him. We're gonna talk trash, We're

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Speaker 3: game is all love, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 3: One thing. I'm here for USA. I'm here to win gold. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's my brother. This someone I could pete with during

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Speaker 3: the season against all you guys I'm on teams with.

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Speaker 3: But I'm showing you how competitive man they thought he

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Speaker 3: was playing. I just say that, like that's Kobe mindset,

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Speaker 3: competitive drive. Like I feel like that's how he was

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Speaker 3: when we was in an All Star game, Bro, Like

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Speaker 3: just always had that drive and you can't really teach that.

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Speaker 3: Like I said for me, like for a lot of

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Speaker 3: like anything. Bro, Like he brings that tenacity and like

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, Bro.

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Speaker 3: Every night he's giving you whatever he got and that's

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Speaker 3: what you got to respect about that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need more players like it, to be honest. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you had mentioned you and Boogie may have gotten into it.

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Speaker 1: You guys are brothers, but like you get heated like that.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear more about those and specific stories.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a break and we come back

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Speaker 1: here on Point Game. We're gonna have the Marcus Bookie

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Speaker 1: Cousins on the show. All right, Welcome back to Point

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Speaker 1: Game with John Walla CJ. Told Donald, presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: We are so excited our first ever guest here on

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Speaker 1: Point Game. Olympic gold medalists, four time NBA All Star,

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Speaker 1: another Kentucky legend, which we're gonna talk about a lot

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. DeMarcus Boogie Cousins. What's up, Boogy?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, bro, I'm solid man.

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Speaker 5: Just enjoying life, you know, under new ventures doing things

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Speaker 5: like this, which has been really cool. So you know,

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Speaker 5: things are on up, so just enjoying life.

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Speaker 1: Like I was saying, I know you do a lot

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Speaker 1: of these podcasts, but has it feel to get on

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Speaker 5: Oh, man, I'm a little anxious, man. I know how

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Speaker 5: things get when this dude. A lot of things get

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Speaker 5: when this dude get a camera in front of you.

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Speaker 5: So I'm a little nervous, but I'm with whatever. I'm

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Speaker 5: the homie that's gonna ride.

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Speaker 1: I guess this is a question for both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: We can start off here. Do you guys remember the

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Speaker 1: first time you sort of met each other and saw

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you you go first. I got the second part.

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Speaker 3: You got the first part.

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Speaker 2: It was in Detroit, right, Nah? That was yeah, Detroit, Michigan. Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, boom. So we're doing a tournament in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember the name of the tournament. This

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Speaker 5: had to be freshman year, no eighth grade, going to

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Speaker 5: freshman year, going to freshman year. So, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're playing this team whatever, and it's this kid that's

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Speaker 5: just like blazing fast, like the team was cool, Like

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Speaker 5: play where you know, the same kid gets you know,

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00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,560
Speaker 5: a crazy dunk. It wasn't nothing crazy, nothing like you know, outstanding,

430
00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,320
Speaker 5: but it was a nice little dunk, especially for that

431
00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,240
Speaker 5: age group. So we got the and the crowd went

432
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 5: absolutely nuts and I'm just like, like, who the fuck

433
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,800
Speaker 5: is this? Like, what's like, what's going on? Like, So

434
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,080
Speaker 5: we finished kicking the ass. You know, we get the

435
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,680
Speaker 5: chopping after the game. You know, I'm John Woo woo, uh,

436
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,120
Speaker 5: things of that nature, and you know that was kind

437
00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,600
Speaker 5: of the beginning of our relationship.

438
00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,880
Speaker 4: So uh, you know, we kind of hung out.

439
00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,160
Speaker 5: It was a big tournament, so we hung out outside

440
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 5: of the gang things like that, and you know, that

441
00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,000
Speaker 5: was the beginning of the relationship.

442
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,919
Speaker 4: So I'll let you tell the rest five. When we

443
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 4: did down.

444
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,160
Speaker 2: The Road, Yeah, it was.

445
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760
Speaker 3: It was crazy though because I ain't never really seen

446
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,560
Speaker 3: nobody like at the height he was.

447
00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,439
Speaker 2: He was skinny as hell though, Like I was skinny

448
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,440
Speaker 2: the two pick and.

449
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm like damn like you s thinking can dribble, you

450
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,000
Speaker 3: can shoot, you got moves, And I'm like, who is he?

451
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know who he is?

452
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,760
Speaker 3: You know, I mean because I never really told you

453
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,119
Speaker 3: growing up, I never traveled, never really played out of

454
00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 3: state of North Carolina. So I get the dunk and

455
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm shocked, my like, this's my first time dunking up

456
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,840
Speaker 3: somebody I used just barely dunk at practice. And uh

457
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200
Speaker 3: we chopped up after as we're kicking and talking and whatever,

458
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,200
Speaker 3: and we just start building the bond, building a bond.

459
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 3: So my next question I got you book, is like

460
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,400
Speaker 3: when did a point to like we thought we wanted

461
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,320
Speaker 3: to go play college together, you know what I mean,

462
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,800
Speaker 3: Like when did we try to figure that point out?

463
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

464
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 5: I would say that last year at brun Camp raight,

465
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, And uh I just found it crazy, like

466
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 5: cause the way the rankings worked it, you know, it

467
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 5: was every year was a new guy, like or it

468
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,719
Speaker 5: may stay the same you just you know, it depended

469
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,920
Speaker 5: on the year you was having. So when the when

470
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,240
Speaker 5: the Rifles rankings first dropped, I was the first guy

471
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,920
Speaker 5: to be named number one in our class. So I

472
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 5: kind of got my name from that, and uh, I

473
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 5: was still kind of an unknown, like I wasn't really

474
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 5: on the scene. Like the rest of the guys were

475
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 5: the Ronaldo Sydneys, the you know, the Lance Stevenson's, the

476
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,159
Speaker 5: Xavier Henry's of that nature. So you know, I was

477
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 5: a little off the radar, but I had a name,

478
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 5: so well, you know, I kind of walked in camping.

479
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 5: You know, guys kind of knew who I was, but

480
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 5: at the same time they didn't, Like I said, I'm

481
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 5: under the radar. So this is this is the last year,

482
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 5: which was going into junior year. Perfect, So we walked

483
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 5: into camp, you know, our last camp, which is junior

484
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 5: year going into senior. By this time, you know, five

485
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 5: is mad with John is making a name for himself now,

486
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 5: you know, and you know, this is on our way

487
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,959
Speaker 5: out of high school. So at this point, the rankings

488
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,199
Speaker 5: are pretty much solidified, like they pretty much know who

489
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 5: they consider the best guy in the class.

490
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 4: To be, and at this time it was John.

491
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 5: So John popped on the scene that summer and it

492
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 5: was it was kind of like it was kind of

493
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 5: like a I don't know, you kind of hit the

494
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 5: lottery that summer. Five, Like you know, you you had

495
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 5: one crazy tournament and then boom, that's all you was

496
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 5: hearing John Wallo and I'm like, this is that motherfucker

497
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 5: I'm met in Detroit, Like I'm like, oh, this is crazy,

498
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 5: and it's in my head. I'm like, Damn, it's crazy.

499
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 5: How this shit just kind of work. I'm like, damn,

500
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 5: I watch dude get his first dump to now they're

501
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 5: talking about this is the next d Rose Tyreek Evans

502
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 5: potential number one pick.

503
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn, this is crazy.

504
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 5: So we walk into camp and everybody kind of giving

505
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 5: you know, fire the stink ey like, you know, like,

506
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 5: fuck is this motherfucker?

507
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 2: No cap?

508
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 4: Look? So I see my dog.

509
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, fine, I ain't come over here, nigga,

510
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 5: Like go sit with me, bros. And it was right,

511
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 5: it was right where we left off, where it was,

512
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like those two kids in

513
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 5: Detroit that you know, just fans of each other's game,

514
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 5: and we became friends.

515
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 4: So we kicked off from that point too.

516
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 5: And at that camp, you know, we really became closer

517
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 5: and that's when our relationship and brotherhood really began. So

518
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 5: after that camp, it's like, hey man, what's up like

519
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 5: what you're trying to do for college?

520
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 4: And at this time, you know, my still committed to

521
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 4: U A D.

522
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 5: So, so I'm like, yo, I'm sitting there trying to hey, man,

523
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 5: what you you know?

524
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 4: Would you ever think about.

525
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 5: You ain't been And like I said, you hear how

526
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 5: the hype is about this guy. We talk a potential

527
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 5: number one pick and I'm sitting here trying to convince

528
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 5: this guy to come to fucking U A D. So

529
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 5: this dude, like, man, it ain't a chance to heal.

530
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 5: But these are the these are the you know, schools

531
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 5: don't considering. And I would say we had what two

532
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 5: out of three of the same schools maybe, yeah, I

533
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 5: know in c State was one of them.

534
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: What was the what was the Memphis? Memphis was the one.

535
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: Remember we didn't have Kentucky. We had Memphis.

536
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 5: Outside of Memphis though, because that's where we ended up.

537
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 5: But it was one other school, Uh trying you didn't

538
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 5: have Miami on your list? Nah, But they started hollering

539
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 5: at me once they knew we were trying to go

540
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 5: to school together.

541
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: I really think it was just you might you might

542
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: be right.

543
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 4: It might have just been where it was Memphis.

544
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: And ye Memphis State for sure.

545
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: Right, so you know at this point, you know my

546
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 4: stem is I ended up beating in from U A B.

547
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 4: And now my recruitment opened back up.

548
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 5: But it wasn't really a long process for me because

549
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 5: and actually always knew I wanted to play for cal

550
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 5: and go to Memphis at the time.

551
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 4: So I believe I committed.

552
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: First, Right, Yeah, but you gotta think you gotta tell

553
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: him you you really fell in love with Cale because

554
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: who you grew up wanted to.

555
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: Be like you know what I mean, watch play.

556
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 5: So you know, my my first collegiate game I ever

557
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 5: went to and I like actually knew what was going on.

558
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 5: I got to see it was my seventh grade year.

559
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 5: I got to see UA be playing Memphis, and I

560
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 5: had no clue about Memphis, no clue about Cale. I

561
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 5: was just I got some free tickets. I'm like, fucking,

562
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: I'll go to the game. Like so I'm seeing this

563
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 5: guy played and it was Sean Williams. So I'm watching

564
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 5: them play and I'm just like, damn, this dude tall

565
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 5: as hell, like he like I'm kind of trying to

566
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: size him up from the sideline. I'm like this dude,

567
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: like he about my height, and he handling the ball,

568
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: he's shooting threes, he diamond.

569
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's how I want to play.

570
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 5: But we kind of came up in the era to

571
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 5: where it's like, shit, you six five up, you put

572
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 5: in the box, you playing the post bro, Like that's

573
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 5: just what it is.

574
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Like.

575
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, Sean Williams inspired me with the

576
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 5: way he played the game and at the level he

577
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 5: was playing to that. So I'm like, for the most part,

578
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get these coaches to get on the

579
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 5: same page with me, Like I want to play like this.

580
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 5: The coach is like, nah, you need to do this.

581
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 5: So I'm like, man, I think the only way that's

582
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: gonna work is if I go play for a guy

583
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 5: like Calipiri. And this is just you know, I'm a

584
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 5: child trying to, you know, figure shit out. I don't

585
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 5: really have a plan. I'm just thinking this is my

586
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 5: way of making it work. So we fast forward back

587
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 5: to what I was saying with Camp and shit, we're

588
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 5: now trying to figure it out. I think Duke came

589
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: in last Yeah, right, Like Duke was just something like

590
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: they just ain't really fit me, you know. I mean,

591
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 5: like I really wasn't a duke type of guy, be.

592
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: Realistic, Like I'm where I'm from. I don't fit that

593
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: type of stare. So I know, like I'm like my

594
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: au coach at the time, Brian Clifton, wanted me to

595
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: take a visitor, you know what I mean. I know

596
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: about Coach K and a historical about it, and I'm like, oh,

597
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take a visit because it's right up

598
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: the street from me. But in my mind, like bug,

599
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: ain't not com here. I noticed it ain't have me,

600
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: So that's off the radar. So we try to put

601
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: and she stayed on the radar a little bit. So

602
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: I went on a visit and Derrick Famous is there

603
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: with me and this is book rival in high school,

604
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: Like who was who is the better one? You know

605
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: what I mean, I'll never forget. I'm sitting him play

606
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: on TV. Book is demolish and I'm like, damn this

607
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: well going coast to coach spin moves like all this

608
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: motherfucker really liked that. So me and Daren Famous that

609
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: took a picture throwing up the woodpeck and bulld text

610
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: me like what we're really doing? I'm like, bro, this

611
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: just for this shit, I just got to do it,

612
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: so bug ain't noticed. But I told him this, sir

613
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: earlier Book. I I called Book. I'm like, yo, Bro,

614
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: I'm about to commit the duke and I hung up

615
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: on him. Bro, I'm talking about Do you want to

616
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: tell me how many times he called me all type

617
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: of names?

618
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Bro? You really sold me out. You're doing this?

619
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: Bro, I was sick.

620
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: I remember that like yesterday, man, and it was like

621
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: coming down to the countdown, and like I said.

622
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: It was the wire you last night got to commit.

623
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: So leading up to that fucking phone call, dude telling,

624
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: I got like, Bro, I got you, Bro, like we're

625
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 5: going to school together. I'm like, all right, man, I'm

626
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: just waiting on Bro to announce. So he called me

627
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: and it was maybe.

628
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: An hour before. Like I don't know why. I feel

629
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 4: like it was a deadline or some shit, Like.

630
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 3: It wasn't a dad Like, remember I had already made

631
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: an announcement. What day I was gonna do you know

632
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: how you come on? If you go to Rifles of

633
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: Scott they be like, all right, Friday at two o'clock,

634
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: John Waller de Marcus Cousins committing to this college. I

635
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: called him an hour before, like, Bro, before you hit

636
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: the news, don't be mad with this where I'm going, And.

637
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 5: Like he said, he called me, he gave and that's

638
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 5: exactly how this phone call. And it was like, hey Bro,

639
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: it wasn't like easing in and it was like, hey Bro,

640
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: what up? Yeah, I'm gonna go to do click and

641
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, what the fuck?

642
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: So I hit back. I called Bro like ten times,

643
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 4: like y'all like what's up?

644
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: And you didn't answer.

645
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: John. I got to the press m yeah, So I

646
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: go to the press compace.

647
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: I go to the press compas at my school, and

648
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: my mom did not like the media, bro, like hates

649
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: the media, Like coolest mom in the world, but hate

650
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: the media. So she wasn't going stage with me. Had

651
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: to get my sisters to go up there, and then

652
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: he seen where I went, but it was all made

653
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: to them. But like you said, when I seen d

654
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: Rose play the first game in the Garden Ball against Oklahoma,

655
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: I said, no, brain, to what school I'm going to.

656
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: The only thing we had to figure out was.

657
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: Cal called and was like, I'm about to leave Memphis

658
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: and go to Kentucky and that I already took a

659
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: visitor coming back from the camp in Chicago, and I

660
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I went there and killed, like

661
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: playing against the guys, and I'm like, I can go

662
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: to the school, but I just couldn't play for the

663
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: coach Billy Glespie. At the time, I didn't want to

664
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: play them. And once we seen cole One Dare, we

665
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: knew the histor you about basketball, so that was a

666
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: no braining for us. But like once we went to

667
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: the camp and locked in even more and Shane them

668
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: was like, I say, they'd been a brotherhood from from

669
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: that day for.

670
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I think basketball fans are like extremely thankful you guys

671
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: went to Kentucky because that was one of the most

672
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: legendary squads, not even like all five starters. People don't

673
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: know all five starters in the first round, like even

674
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: just from the before the season Midnight Madness. I was

675
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: rewatching the video. You guys were like the Beatles, Like

676
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I know, it was like it was like you guys

677
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: were on Cherry Pickers h And I wanted to ask

678
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: specific because like it's even in like the character how

679
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys like Boogie, They cut

680
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: to you, they introduced you your stoneface just like cold

681
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: everyone had it was in their own personality, But why

682
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: were you so serious?

683
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: I tell you why, I'm speaking my truth.

684
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: This is me, bro, this is my time because I've

685
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: been holding this shit a long time.

686
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: So when they came to Big Booe Man this.

687
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 5: Kyle gave me this crazy speech like cause I was like, Yo,

688
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: I'm about to go out here, and I'm about to

689
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: you know, I'm about to get jiggy out of here,

690
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 5: like we're gonna get the you know, the.

691
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: Crown height bootie wool all that.

692
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 5: So Kyle overhears me and he like, choose my ads

693
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: out before it blue. When you go up there, you

694
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 5: act like a professional. I don't want to see none

695
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 5: of that silly shit wootie wool. I'm like, allright, cold,

696
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 5: my bad, I got you, bro, my bad, Like I

697
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: got ahead of myself in my bad.

698
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: So cool.

699
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: Like we never really rehearsed, like the entrance and all

700
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 5: that coming out, so everything was like first tape. So

701
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: like I said, my mind was made up to do

702
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: one thing. Then Kyle kind of got on my ass

703
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: about it. So once we get on the little railing,

704
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 5: like I'm one of the first people to come out too,

705
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: So we get on the railing and now I'm like, oh,

706
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: this shit like kind of wobbly and it's putting us

707
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: probably twelve feet in the agg So I'm like, oh,

708
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: this shit like kind of wobbly something and I'm afraid

709
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: of heights.

710
00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

711
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: Like yo. So when I got up.

712
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: There and they started raising that motherfucker, I'm like, oh, ship. Like,

713
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: I'm literally about the ship myself because I like terrify.

714
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: But at the same time, were standing in front of

715
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: sixty thousand people saw I'm like, bro, just keep it cool. Bro,

716
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 5: just you know what I'm saying, Just keep it cool.

717
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 5: So the results was what you saw, which was me

718
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: looking like I was scared shitless. But on top of that,

719
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: after the speech from Kyle, John went out there and

720
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: became this iconic.

721
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Guy yeah doing it.

722
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't he supposed to do? Hey people, they bro, they say,

723
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: thought Michelle Blessing. What boy got there and got shook.

724
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: I took over this up there and did this ship game.

725
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: It was doug no nah.

726
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: But honestly, Bro, you.

727
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 5: Was the perfect dude for it, because it ain't nowhere

728
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 5: in hell I would have been able to carry that

729
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: shy you did.

730
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: It was so crazy.

731
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: It's so crazy at the time because like me and book,

732
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: if you go even go like not even go too

733
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: far forward, it's like we go to after we get drafted,

734
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: were the only one dancing at the rookie transition, like

735
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: we always was the one before every Kentucky game. Like

736
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: if we won't dancing, we won't winning the game, Like

737
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: we won't locked in, we won't lit. So we just

738
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: had that different demeanor and domination with each other.

739
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

740
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying we on shocking Kobe level, but

741
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: like that's the bond we have. We played like we

742
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: knew how dominant we could be, and we took that

743
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: through college so that man night man, it was like

744
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: it won't supposed to be like that. But when it

745
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: went like that, I was like, damn but rock stars, Bro.

746
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: We was that we put college We put college basketball

747
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: back where it was and that it was dead for

748
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: a long time.

749
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Bro.

750
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

751
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: And the crazy thing about it, you know, you know

752
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 5: I tell that story with you know, sensing him behind it,

753
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 5: but like I was saying, like everything that played out

754
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: with you know, our time at Kentucky happened exactly the

755
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: way it was supposed to. Like everybody ended up benefiting

756
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: from it in the exact way they were supposed to. Man,

757
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: you know, you take something the smallest man, I was

758
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: supposed to be the one dance and that's supposed to

759
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: be my song. But like I said, yeah, if this

760
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 5: dude didn't go out and do what he did, like

761
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 5: the rest of us don't shine the way we do,

762
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So in a way I

763
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: could be pissed about it, in a way I'm you know,

764
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm happy about it because everybody benefited from that moment.

765
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: What about Josh Harrelson. Do you remember his dance?

766
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: George?

767
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: George? You talking about George? I saw that back.

768
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't talk about Josh Harrelson's dance enough.

769
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Hey George, Man, George from what Georce was on our team.

770
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: Bro to do what he did a year after that, Bro,

771
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: it was amazing to see, Bro because nobody would ever

772
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: thought he would be a starting center and doing he

773
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: was doing that Kentucky and take them to a final

774
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: four light.

775
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: Bro, that motherfucker got drafted.

776
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I'm just saying like if you, Bro,

777
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: if you watched us practice, Bro, you would have said

778
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: he just a walk on.

779
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

780
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: And he just happy to put on the Kentucky jersey

781
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: if you would have been through our practice, you went

782
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: through so But my question I got for you is like,

783
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: what's one of your favorite moments?

784
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: I got one for you, But I won't know what's

785
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: one of your.

786
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: Favorite moments at Kentucky. It's so many, so many, you know,

787
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: we got so much.

788
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: We had so many moments, Bro, Like, I don't know, Bro.

789
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: I gotta get cheers. I get cheers when I talk

790
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: about us in college all the time.

791
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: Facts, and it's like I got my moments where you know,

792
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 5: he was on some hoop ship, and I got my

793
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 5: moments where we were just on some brotherhood.

794
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: And ship like and this ship, like I'll never forget.

795
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: Like, Bro, honestly, my mom like out of all of

796
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 5: the dope ship we did at our time in Kentucky, Bro, my,

797
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: my my most favorite moment was that night at that

798
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: Drake concert.

799
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: You remember that it was by and.

800
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: Remember one person couldn't go on at first because they

801
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: were they didn't want to sign to an agent. Right there,

802
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: I think Blair had to wait, remember for a second,

803
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: right right, because you had to. You had to because

804
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: for us to go on stage, we had to say

805
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: we already was going to the draft, and uh, we'lloger

806
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: tell you that story though about why we declared, like

807
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: what was going on.

808
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 5: But you know that moment where we you know, we

809
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: all kind of hugged each other and like, you know,

810
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: us all knowing each other's background, all these like each

811
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 5: all of us knowing each other's stories, like the struggles,

812
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: the traumas like and us being in that moment about

813
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: to take our next step in life, which we all

814
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: dreamed about and at the same time we dreamed about it,

815
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 5: but in actuality it for us three this ship wasn't

816
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: supposed to happen, like like our realities. Wasn't this, like

817
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 5: you weren't kids that you know, were groomed from grade

818
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: school to become these professional athletes like we were.

819
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: We three project babies that got it out the mud.

820
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: And that's what and that's what made that moment at

821
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: that concert so special, Like it was there that when

822
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: we came to tears because we were happy shit and

823
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 5: another and we were proud of you know, of each

824
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: other for the fact that we made it that far

825
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: and we was about to take our now next step

826
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: in our careers.

827
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: Was just being professional athletes.

828
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was one that was one of my you.

829
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: Know that ship there that brought me that ship then

830
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: that brought me to cheers just now just thinking about it,

831
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: because I remember when he Blad committed and he said

832
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: that famous speech. I forgot what he said. Even what

833
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: he said, I can't think of it. It's on YouTube,

834
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: the famous speech. And then we get there and they

835
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: were like, well, bless her come he committed a point

836
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: where I'm like, man, I don't give a fuck, Like

837
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: we're gonna battle it out, like that's what we're gonna do.

838
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Remember that, and Cale was like, uh, you're my best

839
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: few players. Y'all gonna get on the floor. And then

840
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: like I didn't really know Blood and Blood met Blood

841
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: like the senior.

842
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: Year, right, like j fauld to bond with him.

843
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: When y'all find a bond, like really start bonding, Like

844
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: you probably kne who he was, but when y'all get

845
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: like a bond.

846
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: We've been knowing each other since middle school, but I

847
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: would say we started bonding like right after you know,

848
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: our senior year. Senior year, right, Yeah, And it was

849
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 5: also because for the most part, me and Blair were

850
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: like kind of rivals.

851
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, start life.

852
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 5: So it was kind of like I don't fuck with you,

853
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 5: but I du type like yeah, So I would say

854
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: after our send year, that's.

855
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: When we really really started to, you know, get close.

856
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: So after that we go to school and like they

857
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: kind of know each other, but I only know Bug,

858
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to figure out, like how to be

859
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: cool with Blad. So we every day pick up we

860
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: damned it about to take each other earrings out, like

861
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: we battling every day. And then we all just came

862
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: to this shit like we just gonna be the three amigos,

863
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, we got three a

864
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: for life. We all got it tatt and like everywhere

865
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: we went you want seeing one person by itself, like

866
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: study hall, class, the gym.

867
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: We was everywhere together and you build that type of bond.

868
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: And like Bug said, just going on that stage like

869
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: for me kind of like I had it planned going

870
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: into there, like I was gonna win and done, like

871
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: everybody knew that.

872
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: For me, Boog didn't think he was gonna be there.

873
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: He thought like two three years, four years, blood Damnitar

874
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna graduate college. So to be on

875
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: that stage and know like I brought my brothers with me,

876
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: and they put me to a position where I can

877
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: be who I could be in Like nobody over like

878
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: looked at me like I was trying to be bigger

879
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: and better nobody, and I just try to make everybody

880
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: better and be the blueprint, the leader for our team.

881
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Like that shit was like chills, Like cause, like you said,

882
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: being project babies and not supposed to be on this

883
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: platform and make it out the way we did and

884
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: all of us go first round. Bro, Like that shit

885
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: give you chills to this day watching highlight tapes or

886
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: even just talking about.

887
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned the Drake concert. Why was Drake around

888
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: so much? Like he was kind of like looked like

889
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: he was trying to be on the team.

890
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: No, no, no no.

891
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: So to break that down, I think you kind of

892
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 5: talking about like Drake later on in the Kentucky years, Like, yeah,

893
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: we talk about Drake.

894
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: This was two.

895
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: Ten, this is when Drake came out, Like this is

896
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: his coming out on So Drake was, you know, still

897
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 5: super under the radar, Like and that's kind of where

898
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 5: the bond came with Broke. Like I would say, you

899
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: could in a way kind of say we were one

900
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: of his first fans, like in the beginning stages of

901
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 5: his career.

902
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we fast forward to now to you.

903
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: Know, obviously he's a musical icon at this point in

904
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: his career. And it's like that was also why that

905
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 5: was such a special moment, because we're sitting here watching

906
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 5: the musical icon in the beginning stages of his career.

907
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: We're in that moment about this, now take that next

908
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: step in the beginning stages of our career. Like yeah,

909
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 5: Like I said, it was just a really really dope

910
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 5: moment being there and seeing that and you know, being

911
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: able to think back on it to where we are now,

912
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: like you know, everything played out exactly the way it

913
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: was supposed to.

914
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: It was such a dope dope.

915
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: Hey, you remember your iconic practice story.

916
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: Bro, We gotta put this story to rest.

917
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: Bro. No, I just I just got to bring that

918
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: story because you know, man.

919
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but this the last time you got it.

920
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: No, you got it, Bro, I don't even know the story.

921
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Hey, So we so listen for one. When we got there,

922
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: me and Hire think we picked the wrong school. We

923
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: got to be on the line at six am in

924
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: the morning. Like, no, like, listen, listen, you not listening

925
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: to me. When six o'clock hit, you better be on

926
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: that line, like not six on one, not five fifty nine. Like,

927
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: so me and Bull like we chilling, like we got

928
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: we share doms together, like Bull like listen to slow jams,

929
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: go see but I wanted to watch Sports Center. So

930
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: we having arguments every other night, like, Bro, turn the

931
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: TV off. I want to go see this. I'm like, Bro,

932
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: please go to sea so I can just turn the

933
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: slow jairs off.

934
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: He'll wake up. Bro, turn his sports and off. I

935
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: ain't trying to hear that.

936
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: So we get up about like five fifteen, getting showered whatever,

937
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: go to court. We gotta run twenty suicides in twenty minutes,

938
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: like people don't realize, Like I never understood what condition

939
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: it was till I got there, right, like we do

940
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: fake condition whatever.

941
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: So book feet start burning.

942
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: Like the old fire like fire, but like what y'all

943
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: had to finish in like thirty nine seconds, right, Bull,

944
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: Like thirty eight y'all got like thirty eight thirty nine right,

945
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: big man.

946
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: Bro, I completely shit out my memory.

947
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: As guard.

948
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: As guards, we had to finish in twenty eight seconds,

949
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: and we had like thirty two seconds. Spirit they gave

950
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: the bigs like thirty nine forty twenty second in spirit,

951
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: but the ship was brutal. Like we go back to

952
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: the door and we're like, man, were like, yo, I'm

953
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: thinking about.

954
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Transferring this ship. Ain't it for me?

955
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: I was like, well, come on, bro, you're gonna figure

956
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: it out. Like it's just something new for all of us.

957
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: So his feet start burning. He goes sit on the

958
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: sideline the corner, throw his shoes like, man, fuck, this

959
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: ain't winning for more cal Like, see.

960
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: If buy would have finished, I would have gave y'all.

961
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: Tomorrow off, said you lie, Like shit. I was like, bro,

962
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: you lie. You would have not gonna give us no

963
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: day off. So sometimes our punishment was you would have

964
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: to sit at half court while the whole team runs

965
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: suicides book and have cool and they're like, what we're

966
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: gonna do? An'tybody fighting buog bro? So we like we

967
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: just we just looking at that. But like he get

968
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: to chill, but we gotta run like anybody fighting. Well,

969
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: we all got to jump, and ain't nobody winning that battle.

970
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: Hey.

971
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: I did feel bad though, BROD.

972
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: But it was cool though, Like you were like, yeah

973
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: you did, but you're like you know what funk is,

974
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: just what it is, yeah, bro, but no, this is.

975
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: What changes when Kyle told me like, hey man, listen,

976
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: like it's cool. And you know how Kyle is he

977
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 5: always playing them fucking mind games?

978
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Bro?

979
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's everything is a mind game. So he came

980
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: to me, it's like, hey man, it's cool.

981
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: Then I get it, like if he hurt they burning,

982
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: like you know, this is a lot of running the listen, I.

983
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Don't think you're gonna be a starter.

984
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I'm like, well yeah, he said if you

985
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: like this.

986
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: Look and you know all the promises to get you

987
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: to the school, And I'm just like, I ain't gonna

988
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: be a starter.

989
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: What you mean?

990
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: Like you know, like my starters can never get tired

991
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 5: of running. They don't complain about their feet.

992
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: That's the fact. That's the fact.

993
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: So like, man, fuck man, let me put these shoots.

994
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: These are all mind games, right. This is what makes

995
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: coach cal.

996
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: This is what makes he plays, bro.

997
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: This is what made Cole's cal Bro Like.

998
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: Constant games, constant trickery. Like, but at the same time,

999
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: it prepares you for that next level, like it's a

1000
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 5: it's a form of motivation. Like at the end of

1001
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 5: the day. He knows how to get the best out

1002
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 5: of you, like and even if you gotta you know,

1003
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: twist your ear a little bit, twist your brain or

1004
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: make you feel less than what he's going to get

1005
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: you to that point of where he's trying to get you.

1006
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: And it's always just a form of you know, like

1007
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 5: I said, motivation, like motivating you to push yourself to

1008
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: that next level, get bring that monster out. And like

1009
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 5: I don't think it hasn't worked on the guy yet,

1010
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: Like I mean, the proof is in the putting this.

1011
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: It's a machine at Kentucky, so uh, you know his

1012
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 5: ways worked.

1013
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: They definitely do that.

1014
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: If it ain't work, you ain't mentally strong, Bro, that's

1015
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: all it is. Or it wasn't or it wasn't meant

1016
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: you just want meant to be for you.

1017
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure that.

1018
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: Type of ship work. Because you guys only lost two games,

1019
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and I mean you guys want to three. We lost

1020
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: three well, so so yeah go ahead.

1021
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: Two in the SEC, Bro, two in the SEC. Both

1022
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: road games though, and the end of tournament.

1023
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you about that tournament because okay,

1024
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: Elite eight obviously cry like a baby, I know, do

1025
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: you guys, remember who you lost.

1026
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: To, Yes, coach Joe Miszouli.

1027
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: That blew my mind. I didn't realize that because you don't.

1028
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: You know, we forget about between playing in college and

1029
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: now he's the coach. What he had seventeen that game

1030
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: or something like that.

1031
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Bro, Bro Bro that game. Listen, bro, don't hold back.

1032
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is, ain't.

1033
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Nobody hold it back. That's what you're not gonna do.

1034
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 3: But like that game right there, Bro, like it's still

1035
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: to this day, like I'll be just beginning rudge about it.

1036
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: But like they played out of their mind. Bro.

1037
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: The first half. They didn't make no two point basket,

1038
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: make all threes. We started off ero for two. When

1039
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: he won the twenty two from three, it just like

1040
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: it won't meant for us, bro, Brop.

1041
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: We would have won.

1042
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: If we would have won, y'all know Joe Mizzoula was

1043
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 5: guarding me in the back of that one three one right, yes,

1044
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 5: and y'all motherfuckers wanted to keep shooting fucking threes.

1045
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: I'm the ball, bro, not me. I shot two threes, Brody.

1046
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: I was at the top of the key. I was

1047
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: swinging to the wing, the wing post to feed the post.

1048
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: I can't feed the post from the top.

1049
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: I was supposed to have forty five that game. Bro, Hey,

1050
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: La guardened me in the post.

1051
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: Hey, Devin Ebanks at the top of the key at

1052
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: six nine like this, I said, yeah, coach God that

1053
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: you gotta put me on the wing because me at

1054
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: the top of the key, that.

1055
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: One ain't gonna like.

1056
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: You gotta think it's Devin e Banks Kevin Jones about

1057
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: six eight. They had to Sean Butler at the time

1058
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: six Then they had then they had the kids Smith,

1059
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: the j Smith whatever his first name was.

1060
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: He was a center like so they was athletic.

1061
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: And Joe Mizzoula down there just trying to take his

1062
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: knee like boxing out his knees the whole time.

1063
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 4: I had a double double.

1064
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, you let me.

1065
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: You let us, you let us, just know you let

1066
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: us in scoring, because no, I'm gonna tell you where

1067
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: that you let us in scoring, because they start off

1068
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: in man me and you cooking him. We scored like

1069
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: the first twelve points. And I walked past Bob Huggs.

1070
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 3: He said, I'm not guard y'all a man no more.

1071
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: He told you that, and I was like, man, they

1072
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: knew they couldn't guard us in Man, I was blowing

1073
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: right by them having a few day step up. I'm

1074
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: throwing the book, but I'm gonna tell you what really

1075
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: fucked us up and book. Remember this, We was at

1076
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: shoot Around. We were so anxious to see Duke, Bro, Like,

1077
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: we wanted to play Duke so bad. We wanted to

1078
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: play duke so bad because Kle never got the chance

1079
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: to play duke, you know what I mean. And the

1080
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: first time he really got the play is when he

1081
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: had Zion and they beat the hell out of us

1082
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: in Chicago. So and shoot Around, we like we we

1083
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 3: never overlooked Wes Virginia feeling like we knew we could

1084
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: we could beat him. But we were just like, Bro,

1085
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: we got to get the duke, like we got to

1086
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: get the Duke, Like we wanted them so bad that

1087
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: we didn't really game plan the way we should have

1088
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: afford that team and they and they was an older

1089
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: team that exposed.

1090
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: Us absolutely, that kicked our ass.

1091
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Bro.

1092
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: I mean what you remember what I said to you

1093
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: after that game in the locker room and your ass

1094
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 5: was doing all that damn crying.

1095
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Nah, I was hurt, Bro, I want the championship.

1096
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 5: I wanted it too, but I'm sitting nextive, I'm sitting

1097
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: next to this guy after the game. You know, we

1098
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 5: just lost, and I'm kind of like that I'm.

1099
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: Thinking about coming back. I know I'm doing.

1100
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: No, not that I'm not talking about that part. I'm

1101
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: not that far.

1102
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: I'm the friend that kind of say ship that at

1103
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: the wrong time, but I kind of wanted to bake the.

1104
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 4: Ice tpe ship.

1105
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: So it's like he over here like in full tears,

1106
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 5: like hurt because we lost the game, and I just

1107
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 5: kind of like, I'm.

1108
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: Like, Yo, what the fuck you crying for?

1109
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: You?

1110
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: What you mean me? Just like I said, bit you

1111
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: the number one pick? What the fuck you crying for? Man?

1112
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: Bitch, I feel this. I feel this.

1113
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'll never forget that.

1114
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: And that was the like the dopest thing about, you know,

1115
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: our experience there, because it's like even me saying that

1116
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: in humor, it's like, I look at this guy, the

1117
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: potential number one pick, well no, not potential, he was

1118
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 5: guaranteed number one pick. And the fact that he could

1119
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: show that much passion, that's that much love not only for.

1120
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 4: You know himself.

1121
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 5: In the Jersey that he has on at the time,

1122
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: but the guys around him, and just to see that

1123
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: emotion after the game from this like this guy that's

1124
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: our star player, our number the number one pick in

1125
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: the drift is I'm like, damn, like this is a

1126
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 5: really you know, solid dude. And you know, even though

1127
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: we do have our relationship in college, you know, you

1128
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 5: still learn about each other. You still you know, figure

1129
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: things out about each other. And seeing him in that

1130
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: moment of like you know, giving it all, you know,

1131
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: knowing that his heart was in the right place, his

1132
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: intentions were in the right place, I'm like, this dude

1133
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 5: gonna have a bright future, which he you know, ended

1134
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 5: up doing. But in that moment, I'm like, damn, that's

1135
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: you know, that's really dope to see, Like you know

1136
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

1137
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: So I've heard on it actually other interviews about coach

1138
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: cal where you know, I think Boogie you had talked

1139
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: to him, you're considering stand another year, and his answer

1140
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: was always like, you want to help me out, you stay,

1141
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: You want to you know, go and feed your family,

1142
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, you go to the league. Now,

1143
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: now we're in a situation where nil exists. What if

1144
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: there was nil back then, would you guys have considered

1145
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: because you guys were rock stars, you weren't like that

1146
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: fab five type thing where it was like.

1147
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: Five hell, y'all would have got city. Would I was

1148
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: getting the NBA, I would have got that times. I

1149
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 3: don't know what it well. I would have probably be honest.

1150
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: I probably would have said all Poe bro, I would

1151
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 5: have got comfortable out there.

1152
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 4: Brother.

1153
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: I probably be honest so that it's like I ain't lie.

1154
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: But it's a hard question to add because we were

1155
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: probably get with six like six, five, six, seven a

1156
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: year like our rookie year first year. Yeah, like four

1157
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 3: like six. We probably could have got that like eight

1158
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: to ten for one more year. In gods, I would

1159
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: have said ship fact and I really wanted to win

1160
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: a tampionship like everyone' for me going then on one

1161
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: and then this guy like this guy right here I

1162
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: call my brother, like and I got to give you

1163
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 3: a flowers, bro, we're gonna get deeper and to give

1164
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: you those. But our team would have been our team

1165
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: in the half court without him, you know what I mean?

1166
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: Because like me, I was the guy that was a

1167
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: fast paced, pushed the pace. But our whole half core

1168
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: offense was between him and Patrick Pattison, you know what

1169
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: I mean? Like that was our go to guys and

1170
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: them ben as dominant he was and being what they

1171
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: was for us made us who we are. But the

1172
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 3: n il shit would have been tough. I ain't gonna lie.

1173
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: They just I think they just offered Marvin Harrison, like

1174
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: twenty four twenty two men try to get him to

1175
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 3: come back for one year, and that's what he made

1176
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: for four years.

1177
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: He gonna make his rookie deal in the league.

1178
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: He turned it down.

1179
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went to.

1180
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you already know how dominant you are

1181
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: in college, and we know how fun college is. You're

1182
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: making that money.

1183
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Well, it was fun for us because like I and

1184
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: I was still telling somebody that they but like cal

1185
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: really told us every game we played with everybody's super Bowl.

1186
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: So the bullshit bank shots, hook shots, whatever shots they take, Bro,

1187
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: they are making and we didn't realize it early on.

1188
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: That's what I think when.

1189
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: You play the Tucky all yr that first game.

1190
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 4: We realized right away, Yes.

1191
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: Moved that Sam Houston, Sam Houston, what was bro name?

1192
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: No?

1193
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: No, No, does Mimi Ohio? Does Miami Hi?

1194
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 3: Sam Houston when they do Corey a hit like fourteen threes,

1195
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: bro Corey Baltimore.

1196
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: Yes, Bro Corey shout out to Corey on.

1197
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: Bro but Miami with how you almost took us out

1198
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: in my first game because I was spending the first

1199
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: two games. That's when I had the game winner. We

1200
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: almost got it home. I was like, yeah, we lost

1201
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: our first home game. That would have been rough for

1202
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: us so quick.

1203
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: So what So, how did you feel when you got drafted?

1204
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: Like how did that pressure come off your bat when

1205
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: you when they called your name that night?

1206
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 4: Honestly, Bro, Like that ship didn't really hit me till

1207
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: later on.

1208
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: And the reason why I say that, And when I

1209
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 5: say later on like I was in sack, like I'm like,

1210
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 5: oh shit, I just got drafted. Like but the reason

1211
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 5: I say that, and I'm sure you can, you know,

1212
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 5: piggyback off of this, But in that draft moment, as

1213
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: a kid, you dream of the draft like you dream

1214
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: of it. They call you on stage, you walk across

1215
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 5: the stage. You know, you shake the commissioner's hand and

1216
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 5: you feel like you're gonna go in the back and

1217
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: you know, group hugged the family.

1218
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 4: Everybody.

1219
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 5: Man, I walked across the stage, went in the back

1220
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: and got straight to work, bro, Like interview after interview

1221
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 5: after interview after in it. And I'm like, after we

1222
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 5: walked across the stage, we probably were in the back

1223
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 5: for I'm gonna say at least three to four hours

1224
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: she's doing.

1225
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't you, fine, I wouldn't you.

1226
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: I was mad as hell finish those third but I

1227
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: was mad as hell, bro.

1228
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: But we back there three for I was just doing interviews,

1229
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: like interviews, pictures. It was just this whole media like circus.

1230
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: So and it's like it's not where they prepare you before.

1231
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: It was kind of just thrown at you.

1232
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: So by the time I got, you know, out of

1233
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: and the draft is what seven eight o'clock at night.

1234
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: Shit, By the.

1235
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: Time the draft was over and we finished all that,

1236
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: it was like midnight, one in the morning.

1237
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: So I'm like drained.

1238
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 5: Like so I'm like, well, goddamn, Like, this is what

1239
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: the you know, like the NBA is, I'm assuming. So

1240
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 5: for me, it was it was kind of where I

1241
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 5: was just kind of caught off guard because I wasn't

1242
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: expecting all these things to happen after you walk across

1243
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: the stage.

1244
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

1245
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of answered my question. I was a

1246
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 5: little thrown off, bro, Like I'm like, damn, it's a.

1247
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: Lot, Like yeah, I was just the whole process was amazing,

1248
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because just being in New York,

1249
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: you know, you go a lot of people don't get

1250
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: to go there a week before and get to go

1251
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: through all that process. And for me, it made it

1252
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: dope because my mom birthday was on that Tuesday, you

1253
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean, So I me that Monday. So

1254
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: I got drafted on the twenty fourth, so she picked

1255
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: my suit and all that out and uh, just to

1256
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: see all the guys Like I'm in the back. But

1257
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm like he said, we did for like five six hours.

1258
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: But I hear like bull go, then Packed go, then

1259
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: bled go, then or go. I'm like, but what the

1260
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: hell we just do now? We really just put five

1261
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: in the first round. And it was amazing because when

1262
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: I got there, Cow, I was like, don't leave by yourself.

1263
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, you mean, don't leave by yourself, Like

1264
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take somebody with me. And the season got

1265
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: to go in and I realized what he was talking about.

1266
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: Then bug names start going and no, Lie, Bro like

1267
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: every practice it was like at least twenty thirty GM

1268
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: scouts whatever book and every practice on the sideline like

1269
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: it felt like we was on a microscope.

1270
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: So we couldn't have a bad attitude that practice. We

1271
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: couldn't do this.

1272
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: So it's like we it felt like we had the

1273
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: social media eyes on this before it was cameraphones and

1274
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: all that.

1275
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and we had to live in that spotlight.

1276
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: Only one that really thought we was going with me

1277
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: and Pat like Buog thought he was gonna be there

1278
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: a couple of years.

1279
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: Blood didn't think so, Daniel didn't think.

1280
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: So for all of us to set a record to

1281
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: get five in the first round, that was that was

1282
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: pretty special.

1283
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Man talked, he talked about five players from your guys'

1284
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: team first round. Now, UK no one for putting guys

1285
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: in the league. So here's my question to you. If

1286
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: you had to build a starting five out of only

1287
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: Kentucky players to win an NBA title, who would you pick?

1288
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Did you go first? And John you rate?

1289
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: You rate?

1290
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: You tell us if that would be your squad.

1291
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Jay Wall, Anthony Davis.

1292
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 5: Uh D book And it always gets tricky with this

1293
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: three spot. Yeah to win a college championship.

1294
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: No n B A NBA. So account for them, Yeah,

1295
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: account for their.

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00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go off the limb. I'm gonna go on

1297
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 5: my with the bro Kid Gilly. I'm going with Kid

1298
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 5: Gilly at the three bro NBA Championship, right, NBA Championship.

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00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: Is that enough? John? You think?

1300
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hell yeah? Said nothing?

1301
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: Boy?

1302
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: I tell you, Bro, Like be honest, Bro, Like it's

1303
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: the heart like the big man in the guards you

1304
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: can contemplate all day and three man is where the

1305
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: spot is a little.

1306
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: Like it's like a little open there. So like for me,

1307
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: what era are we playing it? Like small ball.

1308
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: Era now or when we came Oh yeah, go ahead.

1309
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking you, Like, that's what we can

1310
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: answer that because like if we're going small ball era,

1311
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm going me Jamal married the two D book at

1312
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: the three, a D at my four and book at

1313
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: my five. If we're going small ball area, because I

1314
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: got two knockdown shootings that can defend you know what

1315
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they gonna challenge and I got two guys

1316
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: back there.

1317
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Now.

1318
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: If we going when we first came in, I'm putting

1319
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: Gil Chris at my three got the same same. I'm

1320
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: putting the book at my two door. I got the

1321
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: same team as him. But if we're going small ball,

1322
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: oh man, you can't do nothing with a D and

1323
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: boog they both spaced. I'm putting book in a spacer

1324
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: a D Rowland and she got married and D book.

1325
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do? I'm just running the show.

1326
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what we're seeing dudes from Kentucky

1327
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: every year winning.

1328
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, but like, I got a second team.

1329
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: That's even crazy.

1330
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: I could go bam, I go bam Cat Dearn Fox

1331
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: like I can go for days.

1332
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So what he is it? Is it cal just

1333
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: knowing the talent? Or is it also just like if

1334
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: you learned something at Kentucky, Like, what what makes you

1335
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: guys so successful in the league.

1336
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what makes it special?

1337
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: Bro?

1338
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 3: All of us was avaging twenty twenty five thirty points

1339
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: in high school. We all could have said fuck it,

1340
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: were going to a school where we can be that

1341
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: guy and do that. We all took a back seat

1342
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: to be like we avaging fifteen sixteen fourteen points and

1343
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: look where all God is to where we go to

1344
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: the league and then go be back to what we

1345
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: was being is dominant, you know what I mean, Like

1346
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: the book didn't start.

1347
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: A lot of guys don't remember Devin book. It didn't start.

1348
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean, like it's just crazy because like he finds

1349
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: a way to get you all to play together and

1350
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: the brotherhood make you want to compete and play against

1351
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: those guys. Bro Like every day at practice, Like no, lie,

1352
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: when we was at school, we would pray for three

1353
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: to four hours. Bro, Like they had to kick us

1354
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 3: out the gym. He was playing pick up all fucking day.

1355
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: So all you believed that, but you just got to

1356
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: have a mastermind. But you got to have those players

1357
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: and those guys that respect each other. I feel like

1358
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: we all respect each other, Like boy, Matt Dowald's all

1359
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: American this Like they respected each other, and I think

1360
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: that's where you build that bond thet.

1361
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree.

1362
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: I hate It's like I hate it's like Cale ain't

1363
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: win enough championships, but he's done so much more than

1364
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: just winning championship, if you know what I mean, Like

1365
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: he's being a real father figure to a lot of people,

1366
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: really helping people get to that blue print.

1367
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: Like he told bull like, you want to help me stay,

1368
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: you want to help your family go.

1369
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna lie, bro. I could take it

1370
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: even further than that.

1371
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 5: He honestly helped kind of evolutionize the game, like he

1372
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 5: made it cool to do the one and done shit.

1373
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: That shit was frowned upon in college basketball.

1374
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 5: So he really a pioneer in this shit, regardless of

1375
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: you know how many championships and you know that shit

1376
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 5: kind of once you become great, once you become Hall

1377
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: of Fame, it's hard to sit there and compare you

1378
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: to the next guy because Kyle has done so many

1379
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: iconic things to just help push this game forward that

1380
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 5: aren't going to show up on the Hall of Fame statue.

1381
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 5: Like yeah, maybe you won't be able to say he

1382
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: won twenty five national championships, but the impact he had

1383
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 5: on college basketball will never go you know, unnoticed on

1384
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 5: and talked about. Like, so, you know, regardless of the championships,

1385
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 5: this Kyle is like an official official legend of his

1386
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: college basketball shit, just because how he helped, you know,

1387
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: transtend this game and the game probably wouldn't be where

1388
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: it is today without Caliperio.

1389
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: And that's just the.

1390
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: Understrue and even the fucking dribble drive offense. Bro Like

1391
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean about to say, even to figure out that book.

1392
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: I think like the way the league is now playing

1393
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: small ball, and I so want to go get a bucket.

1394
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: That's all you doing, that g techy you couldn't get

1395
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: like he told us.

1396
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: If you can't get a one on one bucket, come

1397
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: on and see it right next to me, you waste

1398
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: your time as a guard.

1399
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: I agree, Boogie.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Ad like you played in you know,

1401
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans, And to me, that's one of the biggest

1402
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: what ifs. If you guys were healthy, full strength, what

1403
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: are you thinking you could have done?

1404
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: I counted that game off the schedule we played him, man, I.

1405
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: Think it could have been something really really special. I

1406
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 4: ain't gonna go.

1407
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 5: As far as like, yeah, we could have been a

1408
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 5: dynasty and all of these things, because it was a

1409
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: lot of things that weren't correct with the team at

1410
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 5: the time, But just as far as the duo between

1411
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 5: me and Ad, the chemistry that we were able to create,

1412
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 5: just being able to both become productive being next to

1413
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: each other on the floor, because honestly, when the trade happened,

1414
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: Like in my head, I'm like, why the fuck with

1415
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: they team me and Anthony Davis up and we kind

1416
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 5: of do the same shit. And you know, I ended

1417
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 5: up having a conversation with out and Gentry at the time,

1418
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 5: and you know, he just kind of explained things to me,

1419
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 5: and it kind of you know, eased up that, you know,

1420
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 5: that pressure of trying to make it make it work

1421
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: because one we had such a creative coach. Offensively, he

1422
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 5: wasn't afraid to try things. He you know, he kind

1423
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: of put that that that running gun offense in Phoenix that.

1424
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of what the league you know,

1425
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: turned into.

1426
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 5: So you know, he allowed me and they need to

1427
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 5: play freely, to be creative and uh, you know, like

1428
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 5: I said, we were able to create that chemistry in

1429
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: that bond to where we were both dominant on the

1430
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 5: floor at the same time. And also we could just

1431
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 5: you know, I can cover up his weaknesses and vice versa.

1432
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: So you know, it was short lived.

1433
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: I do think it could have been something special, but uh,

1434
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 5: you know it's gonna always be just a hypothetical.

1435
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: Hey, book, how would you want people to remember your

1436
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 3: career and your legacy you left on the court.

1437
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 4: Uh, I think.

1438
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 2: All the time.

1439
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: I think, you know, just in today's society and how

1440
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 5: shit work now, like it's it's you know, we live

1441
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: in a time of what you've done lately.

1442
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: It's not really about what the full body of work.

1443
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 5: It's always about what you can do, you know, as

1444
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 5: of right now and as of lately. So you know,

1445
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 5: you just got to kind of grow to accept that

1446
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: that's just the times we're in. But you know, as

1447
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: long as I like my peers validate you know, how

1448
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 5: I feel of what I felt i'd done in this game,

1449
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 5: it ain't a room. I don't walking with my peers,

1450
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 5: don't you know, give me my flowers to me I

1451
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 5: was this day. It don't matter if it was a

1452
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: Ogi or a young fella. And that's what you know,

1453
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: stamps to validate that. I know, I left, you know,

1454
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: some type of a print on this game. And I'm

1455
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: not mad at it, like you know what I'm saying,

1456
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: Like I said, I understand the times we're in. And

1457
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: then when it comes to the you know, to the likes, uh,

1458
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, the bigs of today's game where it's you know,

1459
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 5: the calling of the towns on the bees and the

1460
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: kola Yokics like the win Bees like.

1461
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: That, and it's continuing to grow, like check. Just the

1462
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: list goes on and it's like.

1463
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm I'll never sit here and be like, yeah, I

1464
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 5: was the first guy like to be that, because that's

1465
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: just not completely true. Like I think I came in

1466
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 5: with my own style, and it wasn't a style that

1467
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 5: you know, the NBA or coaches or you know, even

1468
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 5: the league was really accustomed to. You know, they were

1469
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: more so with the traditional bigs. Like I remember being

1470
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 5: a rookie, you know, getting flat from my coaches because

1471
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: I didn't want to I didn't want to practice a skyhook,

1472
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm like that, ain't that ain't my game? Bro,

1473
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 5: That ain't like how I you know, I do my thing.

1474
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 5: So it was just, you know, it's the time and

1475
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: the things. It's the era that I came in, and

1476
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 5: like I said, these guys are today's game.

1477
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: They've just taken.

1478
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 5: That that small sample that I tried to come in

1479
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: with with just trying to be my own own style

1480
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 5: of player, have my own style, and they man, they

1481
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 5: took that ship and it's.

1482
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: On stealing with it. Yeah.

1483
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 5: So that's why I never and I can't see here

1484
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 5: that like I didn't steal from Power Gasol, Carmelo, Anthony, Haquem,

1485
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 5: Elijah Won, shaquill On Knit like I stole things from them.

1486
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 5: So who am I to be here and say, yeah

1487
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 5: I did. I started this, this and this like when

1488
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 5: the Rashid Wallace's guys, the BIG's being able to spread

1489
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 5: the floor and and and do different things with the ball.

1490
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 4: So I think that's just how this game goes.

1491
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 5: It's home always be a guy that kind of pushes

1492
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 5: it to the next level, and then it's gonna be

1493
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 5: another young crop of guys to come up and do

1494
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 5: it even better. Were living in a time now we're

1495
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 5: probably we feel like we'll never see another guy like

1496
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 5: Steph Curry, Like we thought we'd never see another guy

1497
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 5: like Jordan or or Kobe or. But the game is

1498
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 5: just gonna continue to, you know, evolve and become better

1499
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: and better to the point where ship we're gonna be

1500
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 5: looking like the guys from the sixties.

1501
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah if that makes sense.

1502
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: No, no, not to them, but eventually, the way we

1503
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 5: play the game, it's gonna look old and born like.

1504
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: And that's just how this game works for sure.

1505
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: That bo you recently said, I think it's on pg's

1506
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: podcasts that you were cool with moving on from the NBA, So, like,

1507
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: what are some aspirations you have? Like I've been seeing

1508
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: you do a little bit of the media stuff, Like what,

1509
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: what's what's next for you?

1510
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 5: I'm still dibbling, dibbling in a lot of things. You know,

1511
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 5: I'm regardless of my basketball career stops or keeps going

1512
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 5: in the NBA, I'm still a brand.

1513
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 4: I still have a name, and I've come to understand

1514
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: these things.

1515
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 5: My name still rings bells across the water or wherever

1516
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 5: the case may go. So, uh, you know, you kind

1517
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 5: of get a lot of guys that end up in

1518
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 5: these situations. And I've spoke with different people about it,

1519
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 5: like you kind of get in a position where you

1520
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 5: don't know what your next step is or you don't

1521
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 5: really know what to do because you're so accustomed to

1522
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 5: doing things a certain way for so long. Like I

1523
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 5: was born in raised in the NBA, if that makes sense,

1524
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: Like I came in at nineteen facts I was a kid,

1525
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 5: and I turned into a man in the NBA. So

1526
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 5: to now wake up the next day and it's just

1527
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 5: like all right, well, yeah, you gotta do something different

1528
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 5: or you know.

1529
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1530
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 5: Oh, well, yeah, now you're playing in Puerto Rico or

1531
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 5: Taiwan or whatever the case may be. Like the things

1532
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 5: that I was accustomed to and used to, it's completely changed.

1533
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 5: And I'm a firm believer in you know, becoming comfortable

1534
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 5: with the uncomfortable, or you know, being comfortable with being uncomfortable,

1535
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 5: And that's kind of the stage I'm at and I

1536
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 5: never I've never been a person to put myself in

1537
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: a box. I've grown to the point where, you know,

1538
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: I'm not afraid to try things and see what I

1539
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 5: am capable of. So I'm enjoying this part with you know,

1540
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 5: just being able to use my voice, use my platform,

1541
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 5: spread knowledge, you know, put my opinion on the game,

1542
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 5: and it actually be respected and heard.

1543
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: So I think that's really cool. I think I got

1544
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 4: a lot of potential in this area. So I'm much

1545
01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: just keep it moving.

1546
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 5: But for the most part, just taking this transition from

1547
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 5: you know, being a professional athlete and now being able

1548
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 5: to come home and be an everyday dad has been

1549
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 5: one of the most special parts of my entire journey

1550
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: because I pride myself on being you know, a father,

1551
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 5: you know, I've dealt with my traumas as a kid,

1552
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 5: and uh, that's something I've promised my social office little boy.

1553
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 5: When I have my own, it's gonna be different from

1554
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: them than it was for me. And that's just where

1555
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 5: I'm at in my life right now.

1556
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: Gotta be like that man having kids, Man, that ship

1557
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: is a blessing.

1558
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, I don't know how people don't want

1559
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: to be around their kids. Bro, that's I don't know

1560
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: how people did it growing up, Like, I don't know.

1561
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: I can't do.

1562
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 5: It and them and them, little Rascal is gonna be

1563
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 5: the one that's gonna humble.

1564
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, outside, I.

1565
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: Got my warrior gear on, and I'm not really affirmed.

1566
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 5: Take Teddy Bell when you get home, you feel me

1567
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 5: and they the only ones that deserved that.

1568
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: That's just how he over there watching Paupa Troy. Don't

1569
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: tell anybody I tell you.

1570
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: I want to say that to you, guys, because when

1571
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: I met you, Jonica, only like a few weeks ago,

1572
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: like hearing that you know you're a dad, You're you're

1573
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: like take so much pride to be able to go

1574
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: to your kids stuff, and like I'm a dad too,

1575
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: and the coolest thing for me is that, you know,

1576
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: and I think he'll he'll like basketball is already saying

1577
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: basketball is almost two. But then like a few years

1578
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: when he understands, I'm gonna get to show him like, oh,

1579
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you know, NBA legends and so it's

1580
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: crazy to hear you guys like, man, I'm ready. I'm

1581
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: a dad now and like take so much talk about it,

1582
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: like with the same energy you guys talk about your careers.

1583
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: So it makes me feel like, man, that's cool. I

1584
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: get to be a dad too, like my my favorite

1585
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: NBA players.

1586
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Bud were just talking about this, probably

1587
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago and just talking about like

1588
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 3: find out what's the next steps? You know what I mean,

1589
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 3: because like I'm in the spot where Boog was at,

1590
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: like do I go, am I getting a chance back

1591
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: at the NBA or I'm taking that next step and

1592
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: just having a brother that being through it and went

1593
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: through it, you know what I mean, having somebody I

1594
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: can talk to and I need that advice to try

1595
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: to feel like what's next for me, what's the next experience,

1596
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: what's the next gap? It's amazing, but like, yeah, being home, bro,

1597
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: pick dress my kids, in the morning, taking to school,

1598
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: taking a soccer practice, taking a boxing the smile on

1599
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: their face, like that's what this shit is all about,

1600
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: Like this is what we played in the NBA for,

1601
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: Like this is why we sacrifice everything we did that

1602
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: our mom did for us to get to this point.

1603
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: So it's a blessing. I'm loving the hell out of it.

1604
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: I got this other question, but how would you oversee

1605
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: experience being so far, Like how you think it's been

1606
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 3: for you, Like was it too much of a big

1607
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: adjustment or was it being kind of calm for you?

1608
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 5: It's definitely a big adjustment, and I don't think it's

1609
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: something that's impossible. It's just more about, you know, shifting

1610
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 5: your mindset, like really getting back in that grind though

1611
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 5: you know that you know that mode you was in

1612
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 5: when you was trying to make it Like that's kind

1613
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: of where you gotta shift your mind back to. And

1614
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 5: you know, just being on you know, at this point

1615
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 5: of my career now and now experience and overseas life

1616
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 5: and think and all that. Like I've gained a whole

1617
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: new respect for this hoop shit in general. And you know,

1618
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 5: we think, you know, we sit here and complain and

1619
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 5: shit about you know the different things and rightfully so,

1620
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 5: but do you know the different experiences and things we

1621
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 5: got to go through with the NBA. But them dudes

1622
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 5: over there, bro, that grind they going through like they

1623
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 5: don't get enough credit like and and now just hearing

1624
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 5: these guys' stories and seeing what they go through on

1625
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 5: an everyday basis, like even now I can, I'll sit

1626
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 5: there and be their teammate and just hear their story

1627
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 5: and see the way they grind.

1628
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: And it's just like, damn bro, Like, who the hell

1629
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: am I even be complaining? Like feel like we absolutely

1630
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 4: And then on top of all that.

1631
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 5: It's just the fact that it's so much fucking talent

1632
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 5: out here in this world with the game of who, Like,

1633
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 5: we sit here and we get brainwashed to thinking like

1634
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 5: all the best talent in the world is only in

1635
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 5: the NBA. That's a goddamn lie. That's all a lot

1636
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 5: of overseas. It's motherfucker's overseas that will literally destroy motherfuckers

1637
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 5: in the NBA. And I and I'll die, like I'll

1638
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 5: put my life on the line saying that. And uh,

1639
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 5: you got guys like fucking Tramont, like it's the list

1640
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 5: goes on broke, like these some of the coldest dudes

1641
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 5: I've ever seen with a ball in their head, and like,

1642
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 5: you know, they may not and it's not necessarily that

1643
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 5: they're a bad person or you know, they they lack something.

1644
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 5: This NBA shit is literally about who you know, an

1645
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: opportunities and sometimes perfect time has missed the opportunity and timing,

1646
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 5: bro Timing is everything, Representation is everything. So it's a

1647
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 5: lot of shit that kind of goes in into this

1648
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 5: business outside of just being good at basketball. Because I'm

1649
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 5: gonna be honest, that's probably about ten percent of it. Yeah,

1650
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 5: and put sure the casual or or the casual fan

1651
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 5: or a person that's you know, not as in depth

1652
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: when it comes to this business. That's what they think. Yeah,

1653
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 5: just gonna be good at basketball, you got a chance

1654
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 5: of making That's not the case that that's far.

1655
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 3: From the truth, Nah, because you got guys like Jordan Crawford,

1656
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 3: Marshawn Brooks that was in the league that bone and

1657
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: five bucket getters in I feel like if they was

1658
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 3: drafted and this time now, it'd be the per the

1659
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: road for me. I mean, but when we came in,

1660
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: you really had to be it wasn't really no legit

1661
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: six man like that like that, Like but I feel

1662
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: like they could have been to Lou Wills or the

1663
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: Jamal Crawfords or like the Norman Powers. Now it's just

1664
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: like you said, perfect time and the situations like that.

1665
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 5: And shit even even the piggyback off of that. When

1666
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: we came into the league five, like small scoring guards

1667
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 5: was like frown.

1668
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: To punk, like, man, you had to be a true

1669
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: point guard.

1670
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had to be a past first guard to

1671
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 5: even you had to be passed first. You had to

1672
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 5: have a certain amount of size on you to even

1673
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 5: play the position. So like these small scoring guards, they

1674
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 5: didn't even get opportunity. So us coming up in the hoogame,

1675
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 5: there's plenty of guys that I know was cold, small

1676
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 5: cold Isaiah Thomas, our our generation, Isaiah been doing this

1677
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 5: shit since we was.

1678
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: Pup shit Thomas, do you remember Tommy Mason Griffin bro

1679
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,839
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you know what? Yeah, I'm just saying like, yeah,

1680
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: like the original has he put up Like come on.

1681
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: We saw Ronde Hollis, Jefferson past feeback like people forgot

1682
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: about him. Right, he was on the nuts and then

1683
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: he was cooking everyone looking like Kobe.

1684
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 3: But that's how I say. I just feel like it's

1685
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 3: perfect time. And man, the league has changed, Like I'm

1686
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 3: not taking nothing away from now of these guys. These

1687
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: guys is fucking talent, you know what I mean. It's

1688
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 3: just like we all be like I've seen bug Go

1689
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: get fucking fifty and fourteen. I don't want and got

1690
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 3: forty and fourteen. And this is when the league was

1691
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: too bigs and it was hard to get through the

1692
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: paint and try to finish. So imagine what the motherfucker

1693
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: dude with the spacing is it is now?

1694
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: It be a phield day, you know what I mean.

1695
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: So the space and the physic caalitary it's nonexistent. You

1696
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: was out there getting put in headlocks and stuff like that.

1697
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: Like all I did was used to attack the basket

1698
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: and average four free throws. I'm like, how the hell

1699
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 3: I do that?

1700
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Ain't I ain't shooting twenty threes, But you know, it's

1701
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: the nature of the game. But all these guys are

1702
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: fucking talent.

1703
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: Like growing up, I didn't have a training Like these

1704
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: guys are six years old, five years old working with

1705
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: NBA training, So that's why they bloss him in their

1706
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: game is so advanced. I go to YouTube them saying,

1707
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 3: kid with more hands I ever fucking seen like Kyrie

1708
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: Irvan at eight years old? How the hell you know?

1709
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 3: Heavy heady tween? Step back, You're like, I know it

1710
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 3: to him.

1711
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: They got film They got films since the day they're born. Well, okay,

1712
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: so this is the last question, and Bookie, we appreciate

1713
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: your time with He stayed on here longer than we are,

1714
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: really appreciative. Segue from the last question, would you guys

1715
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: ever consider playing together overseas one last time?

1716
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, easy, easy.

1717
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 5: Obviously it's gonna have to be a situation convenient for

1718
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 5: us both, but absolutely, But.

1719
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 2: We had we we've been had talks about this man.

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and like I said, given flowers, bro, Like

1721
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 3: bull gave me my flowers. Like I didn't know you

1722
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 3: felt this way about like how I handled myself in Kentucky.

1723
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: We was in Houston, like we played there, but every

1724
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: day we just in our apartment just kicking and like

1725
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: we going to Saints Foods by just kicking. Like I said,

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: Like I don't really call a lot of people my brothers,

1727
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like we all the socials

1728
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: because we play in this NBA and be around a

1729
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 3: lot of celebrities, but I ain't been to this man

1730
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: when and when the best man had fun, like my

1731
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 3: mama came to that, like here's a person Like when

1732
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: he towards acl Bro, I was devastated my next day.

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm flight.

1734
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: I was with him for a whole four or five days,

1735
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: like just making sure here, I mean making sure he did.

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: And that's like the type of love you don't get

1737
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 3: from a lot of people. So like, you know, I

1738
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 3: love you, boy. I'm glad you came on the podcast.

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: Man. You know, it is always what it is between.

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 4: Us, You know what it is, bro, love always appreciate

1741
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Yes, sir, sir, thanks so much.

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: That's been the Marcus Cousins Point Game watch. I mean

1743
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: just follow follow the dude.

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 5: You'll see him absolutely all right, book, all right, Bro'll

1745
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 5: be cool man, Thanks man, appreciate your time.

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: Thanks sir.

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,879
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Point Game. Our final segment

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Speaker 1: the favorite Bucketer Brick and it's just as a reminder,

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Speaker 1: played Bucketer Brick on the first episode. Just to reminder

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Speaker 1: for everyone at home watching this, I'm gonna say an

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Speaker 1: NBA statement, and if John agrees with that, he's gonna

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: say Bucket. If he disagrees, he's gonna say Brick. So

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Speaker 1: are you ready for this?

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 5: John?

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: For show that you know that?

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: Okay? The first one Victor Wembayama, who's been impressive since

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: the break. I mean he's just like you know, they

1763
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: call him the alien. We haven't seen anyone like him before.

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: His odds to win Rookie of the Year are currently

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01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: negative seven to fifty minus seven fifty, which means if

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,839
Speaker 1: you bet seven hundred and fifty dollars, you win one hundred.

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: So he's a big favorite. So Bucketer Brick Wemby will

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: be the Rookie of the Year this year and an

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01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: All Star next year.

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I say Bucket, I mean, I know Check is

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01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: playing amazing. You don't get me wrong, you know, I

1772
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 3: mean he's the hell of a talent and he probably

1773
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: got there, what number one, number two team in the West.

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: I just don't like the rule.

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: Have you already been in the league for a year,

1776
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: even though you didn't play, like you get a chance

1777
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: with every good of year because you got up full

1778
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 3: experience of how the NBA game works you and you

1779
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: can't control that injuries happy, So I'm not blaming nobody

1780
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 3: for that.

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: But Womy's amazing, bro.

1782
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, stuff, He's doing his own and I think

1783
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: every since they put him at the five, the center position,

1784
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: he's been dominant even more now. I mean at the four,

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01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: he was playing okay, doing well, but since he's been

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01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 3: at the five.

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01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: He just did a move last night, went behind the back,

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: did my move and threw out the backboard and tried

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: to dunk it where they fouled him. And I was like, nah, bro,

1791
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 3: and he's only gonna get better, and I like, and

1792
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, he's in a great organization. Though they developed

1793
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: they guys the right way. Grandpapavich is not going to

1794
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 3: force it, you know. I mean he didn't try to

1795
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 3: play him thirty forty minutes early on, but they didn't

1796
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 3: try to put him into weightlifting and put a ton

1797
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: of weight on more early. Just let him develop it

1798
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: slowly but surely. But yeah, I feel like he's gonna

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: be an all start next year. Definitely were Ricky of

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01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: the Year. That's my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, big bucket there. Okay, So second one,

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Lebron tweeted this week that the media's gotta give Brownie

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: a break. So Bucketter Brick a team, and I think

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: Bronnie's gonna stay one more year. So when Bronni becomes

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: eligible for the draft, a team will draft Brownie in

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,440
Speaker 1: chances to get bron.

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: I'll say fifty to fifty, you know what I mean,

1808
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: because the team might want to do that.

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like Lebron said, I respect

1810
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 3: what he said because it's just tough because he has

1811
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 3: Lebron James j you know.

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he got the same name as his dad.

1813
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: So that's a tough thing that everybody's going to have

1814
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 3: that radar on spotlight on her. But I feel at

1815
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: the same time, Bronni's a great kid, is doing the

1816
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: way he wanted to do it, like he's not falling

1817
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: into the media conditions. He's definitely not worried about money,

1818
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: anything like that. He's just worried about and joining his

1819
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: college experiments, trying to get better every day and development game.

1820
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 3: And you know with this social media where a lot

1821
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: of kids fall into that trap, I think Lebron and

1822
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: his wife does a great job of that, and they

1823
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: team they have around him do a great job of

1824
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: just keep it away fromhim. But he's always been a

1825
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: humble kid to me, Like I've been to a couple

1826
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 3: of games when he was in high school, when I

1827
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: played with the Clippers last year, and he just carries

1828
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: itself like he's.

1829
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: An adult already, you know what I mean.

1830
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: And you wouldn't think nothing otherwise the way his mom

1831
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: carried herself in the way Lebron carries herself, you know,

1832
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 3: I mean, being in the lead for twenty one years

1833
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 3: and you never hear anything about him, you know, I mean,

1834
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 3: he's always keeping his head on straight. So I think

1835
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: it's just a tough spot for him because he had

1836
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 3: the same name as his dad. But he's handling the

1837
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: best way he can, just standing out the way and

1838
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: enjoying like what he can and later do what to do.

1839
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: He can't get trouble with people, said. The narratives say.

1840
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: Okay, final one and this is perfect for this episode.

1841
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: We'll end here. Kentucky freshman Rob Dillingham has been very

1842
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: impressive this season. So bucket or big bucket or brick,

1843
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a lottery pick this upcoming summer.

1844
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: Bucket for sure. He's fearless man. I've known the kid

1845
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 3: since he was in seven, seventh to eighth grade. He

1846
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: played in my John Waller Holliday Invitation, the tournament he's

1847
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: playing with Combine. Jeff McInnis was coaching the team, and

1848
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: I was like, Damn, what the hell these young kid

1849
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: killing like that? Like he was just small doing the

1850
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: things he's doing now. And I just love that he

1851
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 3: got into this great situation with coach Kyle where a

1852
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 3: lot of people thought like he wasn't gonna change his game.

1853
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 3: Could he dribbled too much and too many counters and this,

1854
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 3: But you know, cal, like I say, he found.

1855
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Ways to get guys to develop, get better.

1856
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: He's fearly as you see him last night, has zero

1857
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: point in the first half, came out, made some big

1858
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 3: shots for us, made big plays.

1859
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: So I love the team they have. I love Rob.

1860
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: I think they got a lot of guy that can

1861
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: go early on. But yeah, Rob Dillingham definitely is a

1862
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: lottery pick. Put it on the bucket list, top three pick,

1863
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 3: don't I don't know, you know what I mean? You

1864
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: never can know how this league go. It depends on

1865
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: which team get the picks and ship Ree Shevard just

1866
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: put up with thirty four last night.

1867
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, put on the show.

1868
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: So they got so many talents, so many guards, they

1869
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 3: got a depth, they got it. I love the team

1870
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: they have, man, I just wish they if they could

1871
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 3: lock in more on defensively.

1872
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: They got a great chance to win it all.

1873
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: They have bigs, they can shoot the ball, they got guards,

1874
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 3: they got depth, and I love thero Bro. Theer remind

1875
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: me of OJ Andnoby. And I'm glad Justin Rawars just

1876
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: finding his rhythm, find his confidence now. So they gonna

1877
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 3: get their stride going at the right time of the month.

1878
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: Are we gonna see you on the court court side

1879
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: at some of these games.

1880
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure that Yeah.

1881
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: I just couldn't travel the last couple of weeks, but

1882
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna get back out there and go to

1883
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: some more games.

1884
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1885
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm always there supporting man. I love the university of Kentucky.

1886
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: They love me back. I love coach Cayle, I love

1887
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: all the players that come there and play. I love

1888
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,879
Speaker 3: the coaching staff they have. I love the athletic director.

1889
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: They're just great people.

1890
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: It's a great school, a great place to be and

1892
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 3: I love having my name attached to that and being

1893
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: in the history books there.

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: That's dope.

1895
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: All right.

1896
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna promise the same thing, but if

1897
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: you enjoy this episode very Kentucky theme, you might like

1898
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: next episode. John, I feel like we're getting better and

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: better with every episode. It's only episode two, but this

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Speaker 1: this seems legit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, we just fine it tune, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we find out how to feed off each

1904
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: other and knowing how to do what we do and

1905
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Speaker 3: I mean, I want all type of guests that's authenticy,

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna get a lot of dope.

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