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Speaker 1: This every Thursday from noon to two appreciated by Big

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Speaker 1: Fruit four. The Welcome into the Hotto with Dave Viman,

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Speaker 1: Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross getting you guys ready for

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Speaker 1: an upcoming game against the La Rams. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a big one NFC West on the line here

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Speaker 1: for Seattle first place. You got to hang on to

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Speaker 1: that with a win. But first, I know it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be fun, so brace yourselves for this. We

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Speaker 1: got to take a look back at Buffalo. Dave. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Dave, how are you hi? I'm good, Thank you. Stacy,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I've done that for three days in a row,

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Speaker 1: and why not a fourth? There you go, let's just

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Speaker 1: keep adding it on. Look, I don't know what else

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Speaker 1: problems we saw against Buffalo, and there were many of

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Speaker 1: them on defense are fixable in time for this game

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. That's what I see, Stacy. I you know,

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Speaker 1: here's been some talk that we we've you know, over

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Speaker 1: the last a few days. One thought was, well, they

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Speaker 1: got to bring in more talent. And there was some

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Speaker 1: talk about Tach McKinley possibly coming in, and my argument

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Speaker 1: to that is John Schneider has done an unbelievable job

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Speaker 1: It's not talent, Jake, and you and I talked about

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Speaker 1: they're thinking too much. So and what my I don't

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Speaker 1: so you know, and there are rules in defenses and

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Speaker 1: And this is what's encouraging to me. Carlos Dunlop, look

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Speaker 1: looks good. He had a bullrush sack on a three

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Speaker 1: and cut number one out of the shotgun with a

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Speaker 1: just wraps around Alan and drags him down. Welcome Carlos

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Speaker 1: Dunlop to the Seahawks. His first sack as a member

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Speaker 1: He ran under a block, he ditched his forced responsibility

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Speaker 1: that My point is what these guys talent is there,

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Speaker 1: And you look at that group as a whole, and

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Speaker 1: Jen Mueller. Now a quick look at some of the

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Speaker 1: is Rams sideline analyst to Marco Far how are you good?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good, I'm good. Thank you. So

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Speaker 1: a coacher show with me on Monday and tell coach

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Speaker 1: McVeigh is just one of those things. Okay, I will

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Speaker 1: do that. That's not the way he operates. But no,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, the special teams. The kicking game has

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Speaker 1: been an issue ever since Greg's Airline left the building.

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Speaker 1: It's just been kind of an adventure place kicking wise.

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Speaker 1: And they had to make a move. They brought in

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Speaker 1: Kai four Bath. But yeah, you can't give any opposing offense.

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Speaker 1: You know, great field position off a kickoff, it just

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Speaker 1: can't happen. So they've got to get that sewed up.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the offense, Jared Goss and the offense

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Speaker 1: just frankly did not look good. They turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over way too much. They put the defense in bad situations,

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Speaker 1: and they just couldn't overcome. It was just one of

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Speaker 1: those things you just couldn't overcome mistakes you were making.

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Speaker 1: But if the offense had brought their a game and

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Speaker 1: the defense played the way they played that that should

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Speaker 1: have been an easy victory for the LA Rams. But

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Speaker 1: as it is, you lost. You want you dropped the

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Speaker 1: five and three going into the bye week, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: they'll figure out what's going on on offense and you

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Speaker 1: can kind of supplement that defense. Hey, look, if you're

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh and the offense isn't clicking, you've got one

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Speaker 1: of the best punters in the league, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a defense that can you know, pretty much slow down

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Speaker 1: or stop anybody. So if you have to punt and

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Speaker 1: play field position, you can win football games that way too. Now, DeMarco,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious as to what you think how committed Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay is to playing that kind of style of a game,

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Speaker 1: playing more of a conservative game, letting your defense win

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Speaker 1: you the game, trying to run the ball. Because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you heard about this, DeMarco, but the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks defense is historically bad this year, and and it's

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Speaker 1: been it's been brutal, particularly through through passing defense, given

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Speaker 1: up over three hundred and sixty yards per game. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Sean McVay is going to be so committed

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Speaker 1: to the run that he's still gonna want to establish

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Speaker 1: that or do you see him opening it up based

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Speaker 1: off of the opponent that he's seeing in Seattle? And

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Speaker 1: you guys having Jared Goff, you know, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods,

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Speaker 1: you know the great skill group that you guys have. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean what Miami did was they crowded the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and brought that zero bullets and it seemed

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Speaker 1: like the Rams had never seen it before and couldn't

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Speaker 1: pick it up. Or Jared Goff just miss guys and

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Speaker 1: throw the ball right to certain people. So there's two

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Speaker 1: schools of thought. When you're facing pressure like that, throw

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Speaker 1: around it with a quick game, hit your skill position,

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Speaker 1: guys outside the numbers and play three and three on

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Speaker 1: the outside, or have your fastest guy go vertical and

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Speaker 1: make them pay for it. If your quarterback can buy

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Speaker 1: time in your line and your protection picks it up

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Speaker 1: or run through it. Darrell Henderson's having a fantastic season.

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Speaker 1: Cam Akers is a running back they just drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first round two replaced Todd Gurley, and he's been

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Speaker 1: He's been good in flashes. Now we're waiting for a

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Speaker 1: more consistent part in the offense with him. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can pick your poison, but number one,

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Speaker 1: whatever you do, you've got to be efficient and you've

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Speaker 1: got to be accurate if you're going to throw. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing you can't do is turn guys loose

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Speaker 1: and let your quarterback just take up pounding. So they

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Speaker 1: have to be better. Sean McVay knows they have to

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Speaker 1: be better. But if you can't stop certain things week

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Speaker 1: to week, guaranteed you're going to see that again. Seattle

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Speaker 1: was gonna employ some of those same tactics that Miami

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Speaker 1: did until you figure out how to stop it or

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Speaker 1: turn it back and make him pay. So if not,

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Speaker 1: they're just going to keep sending pressure at Jared Goffin

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Speaker 1: hoping that he throws the ball to them once or twice.

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Speaker 1: You know, DeMarco, this might be a related question, but

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Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the Rams in total offense, they're

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Speaker 1: sixth in yards per game, but then they're scoring the

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Speaker 1: fewest points twenty four point one under Sean McVay since

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Speaker 1: he's been coaching. Is it just red zone that's falling apart?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's been our biggest issue when it comes

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Speaker 1: to just being able to score. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the red zone since he took the job. But it's

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Speaker 1: just one of these things with the offense. When you

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Speaker 1: get down close and those safeties don't have that you know,

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Speaker 1: that much farther to travel, it's tougher on the offense.

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Speaker 1: So two schools of thought. Either you're gonna run through

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Speaker 1: it in the red zone and try to make them pay,

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Speaker 1: or you're gonna try to have somebody that can threaten

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Speaker 1: that back pylon. Well, I don't think the Rams are

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Speaker 1: a back pylon football team. That's just not how they

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Speaker 1: do it. So red zone is always going to be

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Speaker 1: an adventure. It's always going to be something where Sean

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Speaker 1: mvey is gonna have to scheme it up to put

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Speaker 1: it in the box unless they score from thirty to

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Speaker 1: forty yards out. So yeah, I mean getting into the

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Speaker 1: red zone is great, but you have got to punch

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Speaker 1: it in if you want to beat your division, beat Seattle.

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Speaker 1: If you come away with threes instead of sevens in

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Speaker 1: the red zone versus Seattle, it's gonna be another tough

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Speaker 1: matchup and you can lose this game in the fourth quarter. Demark.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at your defense and I see you know

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Speaker 1: ten top ten different categories including sec in yards and points.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, Holy smokes man, I mean this guy Northern

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Speaker 1: Illinois in two thousand and six, Hutchinson Community College, twenty ten, eleven.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy up until twenty seventeen when he

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Speaker 1: was an outside linebacker coach with the Bears. That was

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Speaker 1: the first year that he made it in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Is first year as the Rams defensive coordinator. Brandon Staley's

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Speaker 1: killing it, oh, no doubt. And that's what that's the

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Speaker 1: other matchup to look at Schottenheimer the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks and Brandon Staley, the defensive coordinator for the Rant.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a chess match between those two. But when

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Speaker 1: you get to this offseason and you start talking about

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Speaker 1: hot head coaching prospects, those two names are gonna come up.

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Speaker 1: So this will be fun watching these guys go head

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Speaker 1: to head. And you know Shaddy is going to try

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Speaker 1: to formation and motion you to death, trying to get

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in spaces where he can beat dangerous. Well,

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Brandon Staley. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: best thing he does. Number One one, he unleashed Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: He lets him travel, he puts him in different situations.

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Speaker 1: He takes advantage of all his abilities. And Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: every single snap he's going to be a different location

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Speaker 1: on the defense to force that offensive line to communicate

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Speaker 1: and let's see if you can fan out to protect

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Speaker 1: him or if you do have to go one on one,

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Speaker 1: you better hope that guy has eight his wheaties that

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Speaker 1: day because Aaron really brings it. So yeah, he's smart

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Speaker 1: enough to know where his strengths are and to call

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Speaker 1: his defense, call his fronts, call his coverages to the

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Speaker 1: strengths of those players. DeMarco, how excited are you to

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Speaker 1: see the matchup between Jalen Ramsey and DK Metcalf. You

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Speaker 1: know Jalen Ramsey is going to be moving all across

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Speaker 1: the field with DK. They matched up last year, but

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Speaker 1: you've really seen you talk about unleashing a player. DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf's really been unleashed this season. I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: that matchup. How about you? Man to quote Bart Scott,

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Speaker 1: can't wait, not wait, absolutely, And you know Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no matter where what they call or what

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Speaker 1: you want him to do in an obvious passion situation,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go right over the top of DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: and say, let's see who's the best player on the

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Speaker 1: field today. So look, going back to Dion Sanders and

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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, It's not like Dion shut Jerry Rice down

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Speaker 1: or Jerry just absolutely torch Dion. It's gonna be give

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Speaker 1: or take. DK Metcalf is gonna be an All Pro

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Speaker 1: this season. Jalen Ramsey is one of the best shut

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Speaker 1: down corners we've seen this era. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fantastic matchup. It's worth the price of admission. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for game day. He is rams sideline analyst,

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Speaker 1: and Marco Farr given us a bit of an opponent preview.

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Speaker 1: Here's the Seahawks get ready to face the Rams. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Marco. We appreciate it. You got it.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. All right. The Seahawks offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you guys, is gonna have a test on its hands.

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Speaker 1: With Aaron Donald. We'll talk about whether or not they're

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Speaker 1: ready for that with Ray Roberts. Next. This is the

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Speaker 1: huddle appreciated by Big fruit Ford every Thursday from noon

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Speaker 1: to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeves, and Stacy Ross. Now,

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Speaker 1: this offensive line has been pretty solid, Jake and Dave

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Speaker 1: through a couple of weeks so far. Past protection has

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Speaker 1: improved the offense looking fantastic. But Russell Wilson got knocked

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Speaker 1: down a couple of times last week. What were you

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Speaker 1: seeing that maybe look different? I mean, what was the

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Speaker 1: issue with protection? I can't have been just a great

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Speaker 1: Bill's defense, right, I mean they haven't really been a

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Speaker 1: top ranked defense this year. Yeah. I'll let Jake answer

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Speaker 1: it more technically, but I just know this. I think

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Speaker 1: quarterback is really a tough I mean position when you're

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Speaker 1: trying to I don't my eyes would come down Jake.

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Speaker 1: If I was getting bletxed and I was a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: my eyes would come down. I'd be Jimmy Garoppolo times

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Speaker 1: ten and so. But you know they've been They've done

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Speaker 1: a good job, though. I mean, I think the fact

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Speaker 1: that we haven't talked a lot about him, and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of weird to say Jake, because you know, he's

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Speaker 1: on pace. Russell is for getting sacked as many times

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Speaker 1: as he did last year. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: his yards per attempt and his ability to go deep,

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Speaker 1: I'd say by and large, and you know, the better

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Speaker 1: he gets at at, you know, facing the blitz and

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Speaker 1: all that, then the better off. I mean, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for him to maybe be able to burn some guys um,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they try to blitz him. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he'll learn a lot from those, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Arizona game and the Buffalo game. Joining us right now

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Speaker 1: to talk a bit more about this offensive line is

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Speaker 1: Ray Roberts. Ray, how are you? I'm doing pretty good?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Buddy good? Good? So, I mean

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Speaker 1: the obvious question here, the obvious kind of battle for

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Speaker 1: me is Aaron Donald versus what feels like everyone, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, which offensive linemen are going to have their

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Speaker 1: work cut out for them this week against Donald. Well,

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Speaker 1: if we had an offensive line room that was just

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Speaker 1: full of Dwayne Brown, I think we you know, every thing,

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Speaker 1: we look a little bit better, uh this week. But

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Speaker 1: considering that we don't have one Dwayne Brown, Um, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. I mean, we've seen video

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Speaker 1: of this dude destroying double teams and the running back

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Speaker 1: and then sacking the quarterback. So I think it's one

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Speaker 1: of those situations where and you know, Dick Vatau used

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Speaker 1: to say this every now and the game, like, you

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Speaker 1: can't stop a player, but you got to hold the container,

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Speaker 1: I guess and so and in that containment, when you

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Speaker 1: win against Aaron Donald, you need to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you're gaining yards, that you're moving the ball down the field,

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Speaker 1: that you stand in front of the teams, because if

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Speaker 1: you if you, if you win with a double team

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Speaker 1: and you still end up at third and ten, uh,

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Speaker 1: then then we're gonna have a problem because he's going

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Speaker 1: to have more chances to destroy folks and disrupt the

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Speaker 1: disrupt the game. And then if you put that on

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Speaker 1: top of the struggles that uh that we've had you know,

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Speaker 1: managing these blitz situations when they're putting six and seven

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Speaker 1: and sometimes eight guys on the line of scrimmage. Now

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: they're they have an opportunity to get Aaron Donald manned up,

641
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: and then that's going to be really, really scary. So UM,

642
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they need to find a way

643
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: to UM, just make sure that they know that when

644
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: they're winning against Aaron Donald, that we also have to

645
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: be winning on the down and you know, and the

646
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: down and distance part of it too. You know what

647
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: when you look at him, Ray, what what makes him

648
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: so special? What stands out compared to like say, John Randall,

649
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Cortez Kennedy. One thing I would say is, remember when

650
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: we played the body, beautiful guys usually couldn't play. You know,

651
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: they're they're no good. It was the guys, Yeah, the

652
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: guys that look like Aaron Donald. You didn't have any

653
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: fat on him whatsoever. Yeah, isn't that right? Ray? No,

654
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: those guys couldn't play. And the guys like Cortes were

655
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: ballers from the all uniform team too. Goes you look

656
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: cool to you look nice in your uniform, arms and

657
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But what's what what makes

658
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: him so special though. The thing to me that that

659
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: is really special about him is, for god, it appear

660
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: like compared to a bunch of other uh D lineman

661
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: and players we have around leagues, he appears to be

662
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: undersized and to be able to do what he does,

663
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: but he has such a low center of gravity and

664
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot of his weight is in this lower body,

665
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: so he has a very good base to play from.

666
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Uh and then you just contin attach that to his

667
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: just natural h ability and athleticism to bend and to

668
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: uh you know, you know we always say Dave like

669
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: make yourself skinny, if that's a term, like the way

670
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: he can do that. H The way he takes on

671
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: double teams, to me like is picture perfect, Like a

672
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: lot of guys try to take on both dudes at

673
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: one time and you end up losing that battle. But

674
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: he will destroy the first dude that's in front of him,

675
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: which then makes it hard for the double team to

676
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: happen because it's been all out of whack before the

677
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: second before the second linement and even get into the action.

678
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: And so he does a very good job of just

679
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: really concentrating on really shedding one person first to to

680
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: deveat those those uh, those double teams and then the

681
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: uh to me, he's just his quickness match with his power.

682
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: It's just something that just haven't seen it. Like Cortess

683
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: Kennedy was was has some quickness and some power, but

684
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: not quite the way that Aaron Donald displays it. You know, Uh,

685
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Reggie White, Reggie White had unbelievable power, but he may

686
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: not have had all the quickness and things that that,

687
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: uh that Aaron Donald has. And Aaron seems to have

688
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: all of those packages. And to be able to do

689
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: that inside where you're facing double teams a lot and

690
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: still be able to have you know, nine or you

691
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: know eight or nine or Tam Sachs or whatever that

692
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: he has, it is pretty remarkable. Now, Ray, the big

693
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: question becomes how you try and slow this guy down? Right?

694
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: That's the question that every single offensive coordinator, offensive line

695
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: coach comes into each week and says, how can we

696
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: slow this guy down? And you know, there's a couple

697
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: of different, you know ways that you could do that.

698
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: What what are what is the best way in your

699
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: opinion to try and slow down Aaron Donald and make

700
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: him less of a factor. He's gonna be a factor,

701
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: But how can you make him less of a factor. Well,

702
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: the only the only thing I can compared to Jake

703
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: is when the I mean, it's been my first second

704
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: year after I left Seattle and went to Detroit, and

705
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: we came back to play Seattle here in the Kingdom,

706
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: and they had Sam Adams and Quartez Kennedy and so

707
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: it was like having you know, two Aaron Donalds that

708
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: you had to play against. And so luckily we had

709
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders so and and I don't know what the

710
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: running back situation is gonna be like for the Seahawks

711
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: to Sunday, But what we tried to do at the

712
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: very beginning of the game, we ran a lot of

713
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: just edge plays, running barried to the edge, tossing the ball,

714
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: making those dudes have to run sideline. The sideline. We

715
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: threw a bunch of quick, quick screens, a bunch of

716
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: quick little dump offs to the to the underneath routes

717
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: and the tight ends and things. So that so that

718
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: there they were spending a lot of energy without having

719
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: any production. And so then that kind of wears wears

720
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: them down, maybe even frustrates them, you know, like that

721
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: type of of a thing. And uh, and so without

722
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: having Chris Carson or Carlos Hode in the lineup. That

723
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: running part might be difficult, but the at the end

724
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: of the year, man we were using we're running screens

725
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: really well. Like running screens really slows down pass rushers.

726
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: It slows down defenders that they're having to think, you know,

727
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: every play like if it's going to be a screen.

728
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: So I made me need to slow down so I

729
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: can readjust so they get tired from chasing the screens,

730
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. And then and then with the

731
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: with the way we've been blizzed the last couple of weeks,

732
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: I think you may have written an article. I read

733
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: something that you talked about this morning about what other

734
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: pieces of the offense have to show up in order

735
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: to start defeating these blizzes, and that is those underneath routes.

736
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: So tight ends have to be more prevalent. They have

737
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: to you know, what do you call them hot reads

738
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: or sight adjustments or whatever it is. Uh, they have

739
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: to be able to sit down in those zones and

740
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: catch catch those passes to keep us in front of

741
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: the chain so that that RUSS is not taking those hits.

742
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: And so I think that's the type of game plan

743
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: you have to have to slow down and Aaron Donald

744
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: when I when I've seen him be less effective, it

745
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been who was able to block him, or if

746
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: we could send double teams at him, or if you

747
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: run at him or different things like that, but it's

748
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: when he's gotten worn down, frustrated chasing plays and not

749
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: making plays. I think that's the way you can take

750
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: him out of the game. One of the ways. The

751
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: offensive line has also been lucky this year, and I

752
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: think adding to their development is just their ability to

753
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: stay healthy. And there's a lot of continuity there along

754
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: that offensive line, with really only Mike you Potty being

755
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: out and he has a chance to come back this week.

756
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: But you and I were kind of separately talking about

757
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: some of the depth on this team, specifically how the

758
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: team has built the offensive line. How comfortable are you

759
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: with their approach to building that offensive line in terms

760
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: of the comfort level you feel with their depth moving

761
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: forward this year? Yeah, Like, I think that their depth

762
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: has showed up this year. You know, with Simmons coming

763
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: in and having to take the place of your Potty,

764
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: you've gained you lost a little bit of experience, but

765
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: you've gained a little more athleticism at that position. And

766
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: then even when um Jamarco Jones has had to come

767
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: in and play here and there, like he's been able

768
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: to hold up when Lewis was getting hurt that one game,

769
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: going in and out of the game. And so I

770
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: think they've done a really good job. The thing that

771
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: I would love for them to be able to do,

772
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: which is why I think we need to get a

773
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: handle on this whole you know, blitch pickup situation. Is.

774
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: I liked when we got up like a couple of

775
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: scores and they started rotating some of the offensive lineman

776
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: in so they can get like real reps and playing

777
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: some you know, with some some some real bullets, so

778
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: to speak. That hasn't been able. That hasn't been the

779
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: case probably the last three games. But that is to me,

780
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: that was a really good approach to developing to continue

781
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: to develop the backup position. So I hope that we

782
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: can get back to that. I think a lot of that,

783
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: like I said, has to do with like how we're

784
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: gonna we need to let people know that they can't

785
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: put six or seven dudes at the line of scrimmage

786
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: and we're gonna totally have one dude, come unblocked and

787
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: blow up the quarterback. Because if you look at the

788
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo game, like when they were rushing four or five guys,

789
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: we pretty much had them on luck. And I think

790
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: the reason that they that they went to the blitzing

791
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: is because they're like, well, we're not gonna let you know,

792
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson just stand back there and pick us apart.

793
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: And they had a big enough lead that they could

794
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: take some chances blitzing, and the blitz factors that they

795
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: had was perfect for what they were trying to get done.

796
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Like they cover up everybody they have six, we have

797
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: six to block seven or five to block six. There

798
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: was always like one extra dude that was freed it

799
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: for some reason we couldn't pick up or we weren't noticing,

800
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: or we weren't changing to play or redirecting or calling

801
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: time outs or whatever, and that one defender got home

802
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: more time than he than he didn't. Man, this has

803
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: been in the trenches with Ray Roberts. That's at twelve

804
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: forty five every Thursday, right here on the huddle. I

805
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: swear you guys will always learn something new. You can

806
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: listen to Ray. Also, this upcoming Sunday on the Seahawks

807
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Pre and Postgame Show. Thank you, Ray oh, thank you

808
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: guys for having me. See yeah all right, joining us

809
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: next and Dave, you would be mistaken if you think

810
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: I won't call you out for what you said earlier. Okay, boy,

811
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: So the Seahawks Steve Rabel, this is the Huddle every

812
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: Thursday from noon to two. Appreciated by Big Fruit for

813
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: the welcome back into the Huddle, presented by Big Herd Ford,

814
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: drained by Dave Wyman, Jake Keats and Stacy Ross. We're

815
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: here now with the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Rabes,

816
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you good? And

817
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: you know before I say anything, Day or before I

818
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: say anything, Ray, No, Dave, let me finish. We had

819
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: the incredibly talented Gen Mueller on with us earlier, host

820
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks Pre and Postgame Show. She had some

821
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: great insight, and your in booth co host Dave Wyman

822
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: put you on blast, said she might have even been

823
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: a better host than you, Steve, so you need to

824
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: bring it today. No, that's not what I said at all.

825
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: That's not what I said. Well, what I said is

826
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: what we just heard from Jen Mueller is way better

827
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: than anything well here, so it's worth free. So it's

828
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: even let's get it right. Well, in that case, you're

829
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: absolutely right. I wouldn't argue that fact at all. See,

830
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: I'd agree with that sure, all right. See, where are

831
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: you expecting the Seahawks to be able to bounce back

832
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: this week? I mean, we're all hoping they will. But

833
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: is there one area where you think, oh, that's not

834
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: going to happen again this time around. Well, you know,

835
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: last week was such a kick in the stomach, I

836
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: think for Seahawks fans. But just imagine being in that

837
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: locker room. Imagine being on that sideline not being able

838
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: to stop the Bills, or you're on the defensive side

839
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: and you've watched your offense turned the ball over four times.

840
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just something that's completely unheard of, and

841
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: you still score a whole bunch of points and you

842
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: still come out on the short end. You know, it

843
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: was It's a difficult game for everybody last week. But

844
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks, if they didn't already know, learned

845
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: a few more things about themselves, about maybe sometimes the

846
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: scheme that they choose on defense, and and maybe you know,

847
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you also learn sometimes that maybe you don't have some

848
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: of the quite the athletes that you thought you had.

849
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, you ask guys to do things, but sometimes

850
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: physically if they just can't do it. You know, you

851
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: you're you're asking somebody maybe to cover all over the field.

852
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not a great cover guy. You're asking somebody

853
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: to set the edge. Maybe he's just not big and

854
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: strong enough to set the edge. You know, there's there's

855
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: lots of lots of those kinds of things that go

856
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: on in discussions that we're not privy two, nor should

857
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: we be. But I just I think that this team,

858
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: one thing they have done consistently is Raley ever since

859
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll walked in the door. And you know, all

860
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: you have to do is look at that number thirty

861
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: two and eight after an end seasoned loss with Pete

862
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: and Russ there thirty two and eight after a loss.

863
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: So I think they'll be ready to play. But this

864
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: will be a big test for him against the Rams

865
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: this week. That's a great point. My contention, though, Steve,

866
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: is that I feel like they have enough talent on defense,

867
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you where where you fall

868
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: on this one? Because you know, if if guys, my

869
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: estimation is that they're making mistakes, they're making mistakes defensively,

870
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: and so is that on the players or the coaches?

871
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I mean as a coach, you're like, look,

872
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: I told you to go there and you didn't do it.

873
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: So where do you think that blame falls? And I

874
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: know I grew up with Chuck Knox where he would

875
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: be like, hey, that's on us to the media, we

876
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: got to do a better job as a coaching staff,

877
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: and then he gets you in a room alone and says,

878
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, you better do your job. You're going to

879
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: be fired. So where are you kind of on that exactly? Yeah,

880
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I came from the school even before those days where um,

881
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, the every sentence or every every critique before

882
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: a game was was predicated with the word you know,

883
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: you keep playing like this, We're gonna give your roadmap

884
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: and an apple and you're here and that thought, Wow, boy,

885
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: this is nobody that really feels your pain right now,

886
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: do they? You know you're and you're right, David, I

887
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: don't mean I'm I'm certainly don't mean to you know,

888
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: denigrate to the athletes. They have their Seas. They've got

889
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: great football players. Um. And if it were one thing,

890
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: I was just I just did a zoom interview. I

891
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: feel so you know current being able to do things

892
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: on zoom these modern you know so hip. Um. That

893
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: with with a group of at the Washington Athletic Club

894
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: called the One on One Club. It's a group that's

895
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: been around forever, a group of businessmen. They're huge Husky supporters,

896
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: uh you know, but they have a few Wazoo guys

897
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: in there too, and but just really good guys. They live, eat, breathe, sports,

898
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: love football, love the Seahawks. And they were asking the

899
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: same question, you know what, what is it? What can

900
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: you put your finger on it? And I said, guys,

901
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: if you could put your finger on it, then it

902
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: would probably be just one thing and that they could fix.

903
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: But it's something different every time. It's not. It's just

904
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: it's not setting the edge when you're supposed to set

905
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: the edge. It's not getting depth when you need to

906
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: get depth. It's not. It's playing too deep and allowing

907
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: way too many passes to be completed in front of

908
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: you and then missing a tackle along the way, and

909
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: it turns a six yard gain into a twenty four

910
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: yard game. It's just a lot of those kinds of

911
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: things I don't and end sure there's going to be

912
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: a mental mistake or two in there. And as Pete said,

913
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, he called an all out, you know, gang

914
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Bullitz and all they did was sore a little screen

915
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: pass and go thirty yards with it or something. You know,

916
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you guess wrong and everybody takes responsibility for that.

917
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: The problem for the Seahawks is they've been able to

918
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: account for that this season because they've been scoring so

919
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: many points. This time, we turned the ball over four

920
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: times and a couple of times deep in our own territory.

921
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: That you can't do. That is the recipe for it

922
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: with a defense that's not playing very well for a loss,

923
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: and and that's what that's what happened. And still we

924
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: were within a touchdow. It was a one score game

925
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: at one point there late in the game, and um,

926
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, just couldn't couldn't overcome those mistakes Steve, you know,

927
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: flipping it over to the other side of the ball.

928
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: You look at the offense, they had a very uncharacteristic day.

929
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson with four turnovers, very uncharacteristic for him. I

930
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: can't afford to do that this week against this defense.

931
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: They're going up against a really, really good one here, Raves,

932
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: against the Rams being ranked near the top in every category.

933
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: How do they get this done and how do they

934
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: stay as explosive as they have been so far this season. Well,

935
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: my first thought, Jake, and this will beat close to

936
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: the heart of a quarterback, and that is keep your

937
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: offense on the field and and save yourself a little

938
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: bit of that that headache of having to, you know,

939
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: see if your defense is going to be able to hope,

940
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: just stay out on the field. Ruts and company. One

941
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: of the issues for the Seahawks offense is explosive plays.

942
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: We've been so good at explosive plays, scoring from forty

943
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: yards out that suddenly the defense is back on the field. Yeah,

944
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: we got points out of it. Put the defense is

945
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: back out there, which means in this case, the Rams

946
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: offense is going to be on the field. I think

947
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: we have. You've got to sustain and about the only

948
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: way as I see it, in this league that you

949
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: can sustain drives, you know, ten eleven nine play drives,

950
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: seventy eighty yard drive. You've got to be able to

951
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: run the ball some. And with Carson out and with

952
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Hide out and nothing against the kids, they're back. They're

953
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: trying hard. But listen, there's a reason why Chris Carson

954
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: is who he is. And you know, there's no it's

955
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: nobody's fault. He's hurt. But until you get him back

956
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: in the game, I think we're gonna have a difficult

957
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: time sustaining drive, which means it's gonna fall on Russ

958
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: and Metlock and those guys to make plays for your offense.

959
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I think we have the offense to

960
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: do it, but it would sure be nice to sustain

961
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: those drives and keep the Rams offense off the field.

962
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Dave gets tired of hearing me talk about it. But

963
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Robert Woods is, in my estimation, one the one of

964
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: the guys that nobody talks about as a receiver in

965
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: this league. And he is so talented, and he is

966
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: so surehanded and so precise on his routes, and he

967
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: is where he's supposed to be all the time. And

968
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: there's very few guys that run crossing routes, maybe with

969
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: the exception of Tyler Lockett, that are as good as

970
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: he is. And then turning a six yard or eight

971
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: yard crossing route into an eighteen or nineteen yard game.

972
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: And the Rams will do that all day long, and

973
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: they'll run the motion and all kinds of eye candy

974
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: to try to mess up the Seahawks defense. But ultimately,

975
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, if for Us has time, he'll find guys.

976
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see. And I don't know about

977
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: you guys, day but and Jake and Stacey, I'm interested

978
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: to see if the Rams take a page out of

979
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: the Book of the Bills. Are they going to bring?

980
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna go zero bullets, They're gonna single

981
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: up outside. They've got really good cornerbacks. They can run

982
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: man to man coverage and bring the house. And with

983
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald up front, you bring the house. That's two houses. Well,

984
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: I just like that. We have a combined name for

985
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: our receiver duo. Yeah, he called him, called him met Lock.

986
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: I was going to point that out to Steve as well. Yeah, Matt,

987
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting too old to speak, you know, so I

988
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: log half before I need to sit down and take hawk.

989
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: I try things where I can. Rabel watches lots of

990
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: Matt Locke. He is I've been many people, remember Matt

991
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: Locke you I do okay? Sorry, he is the voice

992
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: from the Seahawks. Steve Rabel raves, thank you as always

993
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: for joining us. We love it all right, guys, and

994
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: don't listen to anything. Dave says, Oh we won't. Don't worry.

995
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: I love you too. Okay. Sunday, you guys. On Sunday,

996
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: we are going to hear from the coach of the Rams.

997
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: That's next on the huddle. This is the huddle appreciated

998
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: by Big Fruit Forward. If we Thursday from noon to

999
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: two on seven ten ESPN, Seattle, Welcome back to the

1000
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: huddle with day Boy, Am I and Jake Heap. Since

1001
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross, Sean McVay, head coach of the Rams, spoke

1002
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: with the media earlier today, we'll run you guys through

1003
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: a bit of what he had to say because some

1004
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: of it is about the Seattle Seahawks. So we'll get

1005
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: started with cut number three right here. McVeagh asked what

1006
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: he expects from the Seahawks defense. I think what they're

1007
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: doing is they're going to figure out what they want

1008
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: to utilize their guys to do best. And think Adam

1009
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Dunlop being able to get Jamal Adams back does, you know,

1010
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: potentially change some of the things that they want to activate.

1011
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: But you know, Coach Carroll's gonna have these guys ready

1012
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: to go. I think that they're giving a little bit

1013
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: more multiple looks and different things like that. Like you mentioned,

1014
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: there has been some man that's shown up, but overall,

1015
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: they've always been a good outfit that plays hard. You know.

1016
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: I think you look at that San fran game, I

1017
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: think that's more indicative of the kind of defense this is.

1018
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: Now that's not obvious from the clip, but he's actually

1019
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: at the bottom of a cavern and he's yelling these

1020
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: answers up at reporters. No, I'm just kidding. I thought

1021
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: it was you know, I actually really like Sean McVay. Um.

1022
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: The coaches in the NFC West are all insanely talented.

1023
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: It's always a tough task. But he had some nice

1024
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: stuff to say about this defense, and I know people

1025
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: are down on it, uh, and they have a right

1026
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: to be right. The Seahawks defense as a whole, especially

1027
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: that passing defense UM has, they have not played well.

1028
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: And UH. I think though that Sean McVay is smart

1029
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: enough to know that they've still got playmakers and that

1030
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: he's always got to be on the lookout, and we're

1031
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: hoping that this is a game changing moment for them.

1032
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, make no mistakes, Sean McVay is still

1033
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: planning for any potential good day from Seattle's players. Yeah,

1034
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: and don't you wish you would have said, yeah, they're

1035
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: historically bad. I saw a stat the other day. Yeah,

1036
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm not afraid of Bobby Wagner. Yeah.

1037
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that works anymore or not.

1038
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: And you know whether that but you're always going to

1039
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: hear that same thing. To me, you know, what they

1040
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: do offense of One of the best plans I think

1041
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen was the Patriots in the Super Bowl

1042
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: and one of the things they did the crossers, when

1043
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, they bring those guys in motion, and you

1044
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: know they they fake the fly sweep or they run

1045
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: the fly sweep, no matter what. Knock that guy down,

1046
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: knock him down. The other thing that I saw that

1047
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: Miami did had fourteen passes broken up, so you saw

1048
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: a lot of like get your hands up for some

1049
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: of those shorter things. But I just how they play

1050
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: the perimeter, to me, I think is everything because everything

1051
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: comes off of that fly sweep, then they run a

1052
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: screen the other way. You know, they have their their

1053
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: running game, which is really good. Um, yeah, it's to me,

1054
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: it's it's like, you've got to control that edge. You've

1055
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: got to knock those guys down on the ground, and

1056
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: that's what the Patriots did. And in Golf's roll and out,

1057
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: he's got nowhere to go. So that's legal. You can

1058
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: do that. So that to me is what I would

1059
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: like to see. I think would be interesting. But you know,

1060
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: to me, if you get to golf and you you

1061
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: take care of the fly sweep early on, Jake, I

1062
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: think it gives you a decent chance to win. It

1063
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: does give you a great chance to win because those

1064
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: are the two areas, especially the fly sweep that really

1065
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: they have struggled with, and that stretches them out. Right,

1066
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about defending the Rams, a lot

1067
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: of times defensively, you're more focused on the box. You're

1068
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: more focused on that battle at the line of scrimmage.

1069
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Whereas what the Rams do so well as they stretch

1070
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: you out, they make you cover the entire field horizontally,

1071
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: horizontally and vertically. And so if you can eliminate some

1072
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: of that horizontal stretch that ends up happening with those

1073
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: fly sweeps in the running game and all of that.

1074
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: It really allows you to keep the games simple, simple

1075
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: for the defense, and if they can get after golf,

1076
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: it really is going to force them to not be

1077
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: able to just sit back there and drop back and play,

1078
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: you know, the way that Josh Allen was able to

1079
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: play last week. They can't. They have to avoid something

1080
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: like that. Now, what we're not necessarily used to seeing

1081
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: with a Sean McVay Rams team is that the strength

1082
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: of the team is defense. I know that was the

1083
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: case last year, but that remains the case this year.

1084
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: The offense is sixth in total offense, but they've struggled

1085
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: in the red zone. The defense, on the other hand,

1086
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: allowed just nine passing touchdowns through eight games. They are

1087
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: second against the past second in points per game. So

1088
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: the key for the Rams is going to be making

1089
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: sure they have a balanced approached and part of that

1090
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 1: is limiting turnovers and cut number five. Here's McVay explaining that. Yeah,

1091
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's everything. I mean, really, other than points,

1092
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: there's no greater indicator of winning and losing games, and

1093
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: that's you know the history of his game than turnovers,

1094
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: and we're minus two for the season. That's not nearly

1095
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: good enough. I think our defense has done a good

1096
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: job of taking it away in the last few weeks,

1097
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: and offensively, we have to take much better care of

1098
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: the football. And really, when you look at it, that

1099
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: is why we lost against the Dolphins. You know, you

1100
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: can look at a lot of different things, but turnovers

1101
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: an inability to handle that pressure. We've moved on from that,

1102
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: but we certainly didn't ignore it. We learned from it,

1103
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing that reflected in our

1104
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: play as we move forward to this second half of

1105
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: the season. Now, that game that they had against the

1106
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins almost certainly had to be a blueprint for the

1107
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks this week, right, Dave, Yeah, minus three turnover ratio.

1108
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: They went on that, so I should say plus three

1109
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: for Miami. But you know, and then there was lots

1110
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: of return yards and special team things. We talked about

1111
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: that with DeMarco far But yeah, that one kind of

1112
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: scares me because you look at their offense and they

1113
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: were very efficient. Still they just you know, couldn't couldn't score,

1114
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: but you know, they still put over four hundred up

1115
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: over four hundred and fifty yards or something like that.

1116
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's that was kind of a weird game.

1117
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: And it's weird that Miami has been just a terror

1118
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: in the NFC West except for when they played the Seahawks.

1119
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's going to be a challenge no

1120
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: matter what because now all the sudden and you know what,

1121
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in the NFC West has stolen

1122
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: the Seahawks blueprint. They're all good running the ball, they're

1123
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: all good playing defense, all of a sudden, and now

1124
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are this team that throws it all over

1125
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: the place and doesn't play good defense. So it's like

1126
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: a switch. But I think it's a testament to Pete

1127
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: Carroll coaching his team, you know, and whatever you want

1128
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: to say about the defense and everything. Look they're still

1129
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: six and two and he's still coaching his team to

1130
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: its strengths. It's hard to be six and two. So

1131
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: and you know, that was a tough loss against a

1132
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: really good team in the AFC, and I think everybody

1133
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: sees that Buffalo is now more of a force than

1134
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: than people thought. Yeah, it's very true, Dave. One of

1135
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: the things that stood out to me with McVeigh is

1136
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: all the things that he's talking about, limiting turnovers and

1137
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, staying productive on offense and staying efficient on

1138
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: offense is really the key for the Seahawks, and you know,

1139
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: trying to beat pressure, and we have to be better

1140
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: from pressure. We have to learn from some of those

1141
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: mistakes that we made. That's really where the Seahawks are

1142
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: coming off of, you know, the two out of the

1143
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: three losses they've had or two out of three games,

1144
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: and two of those losses being against the Arizona Cardinals

1145
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills. It was part of it is for

1146
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: a lack of not being able to handle pressure the

1147
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: best in the best way. And so it will be

1148
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: interesting to see who handles that the best this week,

1149
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: who takes care of the ball better, and also who

1150
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: handles pressure better. If it's going to be the Seahawks

1151
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: offense or if it's going to be the Rams offense,

1152
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: that will be a matchup to look out for. Now.

1153
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: A matchup we're going to talk about specifically is Aaron

1154
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Donald essentially versus the Seahawks. And we know the full

1155
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: team isn't in charge of stopping him, but he is

1156
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: the player that we're focusing on. He has nine sacks

1157
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty alone so far, a phenomenal another phenomenal

1158
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: year from him. So we will be joined by Brandon

1159
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: Shell and Colby Parkinson in about twenty ish minutes, so

1160
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Coming up next though, we're going to

1161
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: talk about how this team can stop Aaron Donald. Is

1162
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Speaker 1: The Huddle presented by Pickford Ford every Thursday from noon

1163
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to

1164
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross.

1165
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: Do you, guys and all the times that we've been

1166
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: doing the huddle, I can't remember a time when we

1167
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: had a segment specifically devoted to one player on the

1168
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: opposing team. But that's how good Aaron Donald is. Not

1169
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: only that, but that's how important this win is for Seattle,

1170
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: going against an NFC West opponent with a chance to

1171
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: hang on to your lead in first place in the

1172
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: NFC West or risk losing it and dropping potentially to

1173
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: third depending on what the Cardinals do. So a huge,

1174
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: huge week for the Seahawks. Here's my question to both

1175
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: of you guys. It should be a completely easy one

1176
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: to solve. You know, absolutely no. You know, offensive coordinators

1177
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: have had trouble with it. Basically, what's the blueprint for

1178
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: stopping Aaron Donald thirty seconds or less? Hopefully for quick

1179
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: answer to two three man routes? Got it? You know?

1180
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's what they'll do. Sometimes they'll max

1181
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: protect you know, Russ counts for one, and then you

1182
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: know they'll they'll leave seven guys in and have a

1183
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: three man route if my math is correct there and

1184
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: so I mean, you see that that happens a lot

1185
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: of times, sometimes even a two man route. So I mean,

1186
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: and then outside of that, if it's just you've got

1187
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: five offensive linemen and four rushers, one guy's gonna get doubled.

1188
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna double him every time everybody else is singled.

1189
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: So you know that's you can also chip with a back.

1190
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know I always say talk about

1191
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: opposing players being an extra meeting guy. This guy's two

1192
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: extra meetings. How you have to handle him? You know,

1193
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: you can do all kinds of things, but he's just

1194
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: one of those players that you have to keep your

1195
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: eye on. You have to know where he is and

1196
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: how you can control him. And especially when you get pressure,

1197
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: jake up the middle, up the gut, as they say,

1198
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: that's that's direct pressure. At least when it comes off

1199
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: the edge, it takes a while to get there. Correct.

1200
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: They have to eliminate some of that up the middle

1201
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: pressure because that's the stuff that affects a quarterback the

1202
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: absolute most. And one of the things that I looked

1203
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: at with you know, doing a little bit of research

1204
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: on the rams and looking at the game where Aaron

1205
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Donald was his least effective one of the areas and

1206
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: what happened, you know, particularly against the forty nine ers,

1207
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: is they did a great job running the football. They

1208
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: did a really good job running the football. And if

1209
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: there's a week that you could that Seahawk Nation could

1210
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: cross their fingers, do whatever they need to do to

1211
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: send good vibes to Chris Carson's way. Getting him back

1212
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: for this game would be a tremendous help to this

1213
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: offense to be able to balance some of that out.

1214
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: And and as you mentioned, Dave, there's multiple ways you

1215
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 1: can try and double him, try to slow him down,

1216
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: but he is truly one of the best. And so

1217
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: one of the quick answers to me is a you

1218
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: got to be able to run the ball effectively be

1219
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: you have to be able to get the ball to

1220
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: your hands on first and second down. What they can't

1221
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: afford and what they got themselves into trouble a few

1222
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: times versus the Buffalo Bills and the we're able to

1223
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: tea off on the Seahawks and Russell Wilson was they

1224
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: got into third and long, they got into second and long.

1225
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: That you have to stay on schedule in terms of

1226
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: down and distance. Always stay ahead, get positive yards on

1227
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: first and second down to put yourself in good positions.

1228
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: And when this offense has been at its best, it's

1229
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: because they've been so unbelievably good on first and second down.

1230
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: And that's really gonna be the key in my mind,

1231
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: guys for the Seahawks. Now, two members of this offense

1232
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: are gonna join us in about five minutes. We've got

1233
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: right tackle Brandon Shell and tight end Kolby Parkinson. We're

1234
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: gonna talk to both of them next on the Huddle.

1235
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: This is the Huddle presented by Bickford Ford every Thursday

1236
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: from noon to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome

1237
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: back into the huddle with Dave Wiman, Jay Keats and

1238
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We're gonna be talking to Brandon Shell and

1239
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson in just one moment before we get them

1240
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: on the line. Seahawks practice wrapping up here, Let's talk

1241
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: for a second up this offense in general. They might

1242
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: be in Jake and Day for their biggest test to

1243
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: the season. I really do think the Rams defense is

1244
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: going to be the best defense that they faced. I

1245
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: thought it might be the Patriots. Patriots this year ended

1246
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: up being a very different team than I thought they

1247
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: would be, and that isn't helped by injuries. But this defense,

1248
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: this Rams defense number two overall in total defense, allowing

1249
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: under one hundred rushing yards. They are allowing just one

1250
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety seven passing yards per game. That is

1251
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: by far Seattle strength. So they have their work cut

1252
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: out for them. I don't want to say, how do

1253
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: you overcome it? We've been talking about Aaron Donald, But

1254
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: who needs to have a huge game? Who on the

1255
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: offense needs to have a huge game this Sunday. I'll

1256
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: start with you, Dave, Well, maybe Damian Lewis and Heathan

1257
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: Posk or whoever is going to double team him. But

1258
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I just think the usual guys

1259
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: need to step up. I'd also like to see them

1260
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: start using tight ends a little bit more. You know,

1261
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: we've seen Will this Ley and Greg Olson a little

1262
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: bit in the last couple of weeks, but not as

1263
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: much as I thought going into this season. I thought

1264
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: Will Disley would be the number three receiver, but it

1265
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be David Moore. But yeah, man,

1266
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like I said, they stole the

1267
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: blueprint from the Seahawks because you look at net passing differential,

1268
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: which isn't a common one, but they're basically throwing for

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Speaker 1: sixty one yards more than they're giving up, and that's

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: number two defensive net passing yards per game one thirty

1271
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: seven is what they're giving up. So anyway, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a huge challenge for this offense.

1273
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: But I think the Rabel mentioned that thirty two and eight,

1274
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Jake coming off for Russell Wilson, and it's not just Russ,

1275
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: it's Pete, it's Bobby, you know, coming off a regular

1276
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: season loss, they're thirty two and eight since Russ has

1277
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: been here. It's a really really outstanding record there in

1278
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: those moments, and the guy that I'm gonna point to

1279
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: you on the offense side of the ball that needs

1280
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: to step up, because Dave, you took all of mine.

1281
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: But I talked to ask to Marco Farr how excited

1282
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: he is about the matchup between DK Metcalf and Jalen Ramsey.

1283
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: DK is gonna have to step up. DK is gonna

1284
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: have to have another Stephen Gilmore, you know, obliteration opportunity here.

1285
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: He is going to have to step up in a

1286
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: big way and show the rest of the league that

1287
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: he can play with anybody, that he doesn't matter who

1288
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: he's matched up with, that he is a problem. And

1289
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: what you can't have happened is what happened against Arizona,

1290
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: and look, Tyler Lockett had an unbelievable game. Russell still

1291
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: played well. Outside the turnovers, they were still moving the

1292
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: ball up and down the field. But you can't afford

1293
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: to have DK Metcalf in this matchup be completely isolated

1294
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: and taken away from this offense just because just because

1295
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is covering him. So I think that they're

1296
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to challenge Ramsey a little bit, which is

1297
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: a scary proposition. But if you truly believe that DK

1298
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: Metcalf can be, you know, a all pro, he is

1299
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: an all pro type of talent. Then you're gonna take

1300
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: those chances and you're gonna let those two battle it out.

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk a about those turnovers quickly. I know it's

1302
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily a fun conversation to have, but an important

1303
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: one when your quarterback is going to be the key

1304
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: to your trip to a super Bowl. Russell Wilson normally

1305
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: doesn't turn over the ball. It is something he has

1306
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: always excelled at, and it is something he has continued too.

1307
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: But we've seen two uncharacteristic performances by him. If I'm

1308
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: noticing any kind of theme between these, it might be

1309
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: that and this isn't in every turnover. Some have just

1310
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: been bad decisions, or in the case of the Patriots,

1311
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: it was like a you know, a tipped pass that

1312
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: was picked off or a pick six. But in a

1313
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: couple of these, it feels like he's forcing it. Russell

1314
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: Wilson would never say that he is forcing anything or

1315
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: feels a need to make sure he scores, but do

1316
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: you feel like there's just added pressure. I mean, have

1317
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: you guys noticed any kind of common theme with these

1318
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: turnovers that you feel like they can fix. Yeah, well,

1319
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: I'll put it to Jake and let me ask you

1320
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: guys both this. When he throws an interception, it's always

1321
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: number one. It's shocking, it's a surprise, and and then

1322
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: you go, why would he do that? But then you

1323
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: remember he never does that, you know, So I don't

1324
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: know if it makes him look really bad because you know,

1325
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: a couple of them are like, well why did he

1326
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: throw it there? But I mean he's only a double

1327
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: digit Jake, you know, interceptions twice, you know, and those

1328
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: were I think eleven, So I mean typically, I mean

1329
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: he's and he's on pace to throw double digits. But

1330
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, I could see him only thrown to the

1331
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: rest of the year. Yeah, yeah, it absolutely could happen.

1332
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: And look, I think this last game was an anomaly

1333
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: in the sense that when you talk about the pressure Stacy,

1334
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: I do think that this week was one of those

1335
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: situations where you do feel the pressure of the moment

1336
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: and you are trying to make things happen, and it

1337
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: does result in turnovers and that's not something you typically

1338
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: see from Russ But in that moment, he did have

1339
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: to press, he did have to be he had to

1340
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: be the guy to make something happen when things were

1341
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: going wrong, and and I think it did lead to

1342
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: a fumble. I think it did lead to an interception

1343
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: that is not normally like him. And so I believe

1344
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: fully that if the game is more in range and

1345
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 1: you're not having to play with desperation so to speak. Right,

1346
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: Russell makes it look so easy. But most quarterbacks, when

1347
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: they play in that mode, that two minute mode, that

1348
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: desperation I gotta make something happen. You're gonna see more

1349
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: often than not those quarterbacks struggle, and Russell has succelled

1350
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: in those moments. But I think this was one of

1351
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: those times where it was a perfect storm of the

1352
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: Bills really getting in his face, getting pressure, Russell trying

1353
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: to force the ball a little bit. And if they

1354
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: can get back to starting fast and staying in the

1355
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: game from the very beginning in the first second quarter

1356
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: of the game, I don't think you're gonna see that

1357
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: type of play. I just really don't. Are there any

1358
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: weaknesses of this Rams defense? This is a genuine question

1359
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: because I watched I tried to watch obviously a condensed

1360
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: version of most of their games this year, so I'm

1361
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: missing some points but they have been phenomenal. I mean,

1362
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: you've seen improvements, especially in the second half of games,

1363
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: which is coincidentally where we're used to the Seahawks kind

1364
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: of pulling things together. And we're going to be joined

1365
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: by Brandon Shell here in just about thirty seconds. But Dave,

1366
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: is there any part of the defense you think they

1367
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: can try to exploit? Yeah, I mean their middle of

1368
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: the pack. You ask if there they have weaknesses middle

1369
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: of the pack. As far as takeaways, they have ten,

1370
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: but you know they're their fifth in sacks. So yeah,

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01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look, every team can be had. And if

1372
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: you look at those those games, and it's not always

1373
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: just offense versus defense. You know, look at look at

1374
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: the field position and look at Jen pointed that out

1375
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: against the Bills, and how much that was a big

1376
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: deal last year. I'm sorry last week. Yeah, and we're

1377
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: joining right now by offensive lineman Brandon Shell. Brandon, how

1378
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: are you good? Good? Thanks so much for joining us.

1379
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and get started. A huge

1380
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: divisional oponent coming up this week. You guys are coming

1381
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: out of a loss. We know you normally do well

1382
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: after that and bounce back. What's been the mindset, like

1383
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: for specifically the offensive line this week. I mean, we

1384
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: just gotta keep rolling, you know, we just gotta the

1385
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: pit for in this game, lead the game behind. Let's

1386
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: to keep it moving. Hey, Brandon, it seemed like every

1387
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: game I ever played in the opponent always did something different.

1388
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 1: And you know what, what did you see from Buffalo

1389
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: last week? And were they were they different than anything

1390
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: that that you had seen before? Or you know what

1391
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: what was what was the plan there? And Buffalo blocking

1392
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: those guys up? I mean, you know, they just uh,

1393
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean they just played good. They bought some pressures

1394
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, and they just played with those

1395
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: guys just play well. They's got a number that day. Brandon,

1396
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: you look at what has uh happened in your career.

1397
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: You've gone to the Jets. Now you're here in Seattle.

1398
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 1: What has it been like for you? Now that you're

1399
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: eight weeks into the sea he's in here in Seattle.

1400
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: What has this new experience been like for you? I know,

1401
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's different, just just as far as the

1402
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: COVID thing wise too, that makes it a lot different

1403
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: as well, But it's just different, you know, just just

1404
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: being here with the guys. You know, just being in

1405
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: a new environment, just working with the guys that we

1406
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: have here, like such as Dwayne, Mike, Damian, Ethan cow

1407
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: for of those guys. Man, it's just been a great

1408
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: experience so far, you know, and we we're just making

1409
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: the most out of everything, deal dealing with the COVID,

1410
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: the whole COVID situation, just making the most out of it.

1411
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: Just keep playing. You know, this is gonna be a

1412
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: season that you're always going to remember. Hey, Brandon, every

1413
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: every team I was on, I was always kind of

1414
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: envious of the offensive line because you guys are so tight.

1415
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: It's just such a tight group, it seems like, and

1416
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: you told us that, Mike Salari, how's you guys do

1417
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: round tables? Tell everybody a little bit about how you

1418
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: guys do these these roundtables? Is it in a meeting room?

1419
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys talk about personal things? What's that like? Well,

1420
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: we did a round table during during like the whole

1421
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: Ota time when we was on doing Zoom meetings. So

1422
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 1: like it was just like he'll call on, we'll start

1423
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: we're going from right to left, and we'll just call

1424
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: on guys and they're just like, tell something interesting about

1425
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: yoursell all like how you grew up, Like what your

1426
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: journey was going to college, like in high school, and

1427
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: like your journey through the league, and like what things

1428
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: are like motion numberable for you while playing sports and

1429
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that, And like guy's just having like open

1430
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: discussion and just talking about about whatever whatever really comes

1431
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: to mind, you know, like whatever you want to share. Yeah, Brandon,

1432
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: what is it like for you stepping in that huddle

1433
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson? You know, you have a quarterback here

1434
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: who's playing great football, but his mentality is very different.

1435
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: What has that been like for you? I mean it's

1436
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: been It's different though, to have a guy like that.

1437
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: It's such a commanding the huddle. You know, a guy

1438
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: that just I believe that like that knows he's great.

1439
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: He has that that confidence so that we know we're

1440
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: gonna win every game. We know we're gonna score every

1441
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: time were on the field. You know, just having that

1442
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: feeling it rubs off on everybody is contagious, so everybody

1443
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: starts to feel that way. Hey, Brandon, one last question

1444
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: from us here, and it's maybe the most important in

1445
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: my mind, which is, uh, I need from you a

1446
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: definitive answer to the best Halloween candy. I mean, this

1447
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: is my first time talking to you. It's a very

1448
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: intense debate I've had with both Dave Wyman and Jake

1449
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: because they hate twigs, which is my favorite. So I'm

1450
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: curious to know what your favorite Halloween candy is and

1451
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: the worst one. The favorite Halloween candy is recently, Thank

1452
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: you very much. That is a correct answer. How about

1453
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: the worst? The worst is probably uh it's brand, like

1454
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: a roll or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1455
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: don't like the ones that come in to grant that,

1456
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: the blue rappings, they're not too good. Oh man, I

1457
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 1: love those, No, Dave, of course you do. Those twitchs

1458
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: are the worst though, right, I mean that's like a

1459
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: cracker or something, isn't it, Brandon, help me out, Brandon,

1460
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: the ones I could cracker the twis. I mean, the

1461
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: twitch is pretty good, but it's not better in the receipt.

1462
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: You know. It's like that chocolate with a peanut butter mix.

1463
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: You can't can't go row. All right, all right, Brandon,

1464
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Thank you, Thanks Bran. All Right, We're

1465
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna be joined in just a second by tight End

1466
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: Kolby Parkinson. I'm really glad we settled this. I know

1467
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: we have other things to talk about. You're coming out

1468
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: of this loss of the bills. You want to turn

1469
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: things around. But this is the answer that I wanted

1470
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: to get into, especially with an offensive lineman. You know,

1471
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: someone that's actually like got some experience. You know, he's

1472
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: not why you're saying this is because she can. I

1473
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: feel validated a thousand percent. If he said the best

1474
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: candy is Charleston choose, I would have said, Curtis, please

1475
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: hang up on Brandon Shell, Well you freeze He would

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: be right. Did you say frozen Charleston shoe? Am I right? Jake?

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: The frozen s only way you should eat at Charleston show.

1478
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: You gotta freeze it. You gotta be right. Strawberry Charleston

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: shoes they only in like gas station? Why they don't

1480
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: have them? You do? You have to get there. I

1481
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: saw one of Bartel drugs the other day and I

1482
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 1: was like, no way. I freaked out, so like it's

1483
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: a it's a rare commodity, like dalmatians. I think the

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01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: Charleston shoo's making a comeback. Do you want to? They

1485
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: asked me in San Francisco before the game. I did

1486
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: a hit down there. Last time we played them. They said,

1487
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson was a candy bar, what would he be?

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: You know what I said? You did not say Charleston Show.

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: So I said the seven up bar? And if you

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: look it up. Back in the seventies, there was a

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01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 1: bar called the seven Up and it was a chocolate

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: bar that had seven different compartments. Oh so he's well

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 1: seven yeah, and it had like coconut mint, uh, nougat

1494
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: whatever that is. What was there a response to that, Dave,

1495
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: where they like, what in the world are you talking about?

1496
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: Or did they know? No. I don't know if there

1497
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: was anybody that knew exactly what that candy bar was,

1498
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: but I think they thought that I had put way

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: too much thought into it and that maybe I should

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: spend my time doing other things. I know, I like

1501
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: that answer. That's a good one. I think I would

1502
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: have said, uh, esus, because it's a premiere candy. Do

1503
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: you look it up? Do you look up the seven up?

1504
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: I'll do it later. We're going to be joined by

1505
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson here, so I'm sorry we have to do

1506
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: an interview, Dave. I don't have time to look up

1507
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: this cany this is more important. I mean, yeah, I'll

1508
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: pick Colby on hold. In fact, I'll ask him right now.

1509
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: We're joined by tight end Colby Parkinson. Colby, Uh, you

1510
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: are a young player. I need to know if you

1511
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: know what a seven up bar is? A seven up bar? Yeah,

1512
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: that candy is thank you fine. Well, you know what

1513
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: I thought, since Colby went to Stanford, that it might

1514
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: that he might know. But it's it's an old It's

1515
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: an old candy bar, Colby, So don't worry about it.

1516
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm doing great. How are you good?

1517
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: How tough has it been? You know, you're you're finally

1518
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: getting getting some play, You're you're starting to practice all

1519
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's probably been a I know everybody's had

1520
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 1: kind of a tough year, but coming in your rookie

1521
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: year and being injured, it seems like you're you're you're

1522
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: hanging in there, your spirits are high. Yeah. Absolutely. Um,

1523
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: definitely a bummer when I found out I was going

1524
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: to be out for the first six weeks of the season,

1525
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: But instead of just feeling down about myself, I took

1526
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: advantage of that time to get ready to play, get

1527
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: as healthy as I could, and also be ready to

1528
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: step in and really understand the playbook. And it's just

1529
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: been a blast ever since I've been back and healthy. Um,

1530
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: playing football is just I mean, I think I have

1531
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: a new sense of gratitude and definitely um appreciate it

1532
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: a little more now that I've been away from it,

1533
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: you know for the first six weeks. I know it's

1534
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: not a huge injury, and some guys are out for

1535
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: a lot longer, But definitely enjoying it and enjoyed the process. Colby,

1536
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: now that you're back, it's I'm curious what your mindset is.

1537
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: Are you just out there every day trying to show

1538
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: these guys that, hey, when it comes down to it,

1539
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. You know, I'm ready to go.

1540
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: From the coaching staff can trust you with the playbook,

1541
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson can trust that you're in your spot. What's

1542
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: what's your mentality out there in practice? Yeah? Absolutely, I'm

1543
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: just going out there every day trying to compete, whether

1544
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: it's in the scout team or live reps. I'm trying

1545
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: to show what I'm all about and show that I'm

1546
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: ready to play. Um going out there just trying to

1547
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: earn my way onto the field. Anyway I can. Hey Colby,

1548
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: you've you know, not had a chance to really get

1549
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: out on the field until recently. But you've obviously been

1550
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: around this team, You've been in the facility. It's your

1551
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: first year in the league. I know it's a weird one.

1552
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: But what's it been like in Seattle? I mean, what's

1553
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: that environment like with the team? Yeah? Well, first of all,

1554
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: the program here is amazing. Um. I was blessed to

1555
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: go to Stanford and uh, I had a great experience there. Coach,

1556
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: I've read a great program and honestly, I wasn't really

1557
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: expecting something similar to that coming into the NFL. UM

1558
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be more business oriented, not

1559
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: very very oriented as it is here. We're all about

1560
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: the team. We're all about um, you know, each other,

1561
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: making each other better, competing and it's it's been awesome.

1562
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: Definitely blessed to be a part of this organization. Well, Colby, Well,

1563
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: I look forward to meeting in person because I also

1564
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: played football at Stanford and was drafted here and played

1565
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. But let me ask you this. Yeah,

1566
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this. If you have you

1567
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: experienced this because I went to Stanford, people would come

1568
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,879
Speaker 1: up and ask me every question possible, like tax rates

1569
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: and what about this? And if I didn't know the answer,

1570
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: like well you went to Stanford, I'm like, well, why

1571
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: don't you go hire you know, a tax attorney or something.

1572
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: Have you experienced anything like that? Yes, I definitely get

1573
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: that from time to time, people assuming I'll know stuff

1574
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: just because I went to Stanford. Right, Okay, tell him

1575
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: to go look it up. There's the internet now, so yeah,

1576
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 1: they were still learning Colby. We really really appreciate you joining.

1577
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: Good luck this weekend. All right, thanks so much, guys,

1578
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Scott blessed. All right, um, someone texted in, I have

1579
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: to tell you, guys, I don't know if anyone else

1580
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Uh if you listeners have heard Cody Barton, Kolbe Parkinson

1581
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: and Cody Barton have the same voice, you think uncanny? Yes,

1582
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 1: I think it is now that you mentioned that. Yeah,

1583
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: I could, I could definitely, Yeah, I could definitely hear.

1584
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: That's be something with those packed twelve kids. I don't

1585
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: know what that is. All right. Uh, this has been

1586
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross

1587
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: getting you guys ready for this Sunday. Uh Dave, we're

1588
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna kick you out of here, but before I let

1589
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: you go, I have to put you on the spot.

1590
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win this weekend? Seahawks are They're gonna bounce

1591
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: back thirty They're gonna be thirty three and eight a

1592
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: regular season lost. All right, this has been the huddles

1593
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: ben ESPN, Seattle