1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to let go of my god, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, like, let's just hit record. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: And see what happens. I want to do with Shot 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: in the Dark, Shot in the Dark, Now to run. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Now we're pros, you think, wow, self, call. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Happy Friday, Happy Friday. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Chip, Happy Friday. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Friday. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: I know we're faking it, baby Razzle Dazzle. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday for us, but this will be airing on Friday. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: I'm actually traveling, so we are getting ahead of schedule. 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I enjoy being ahead of schedule on the podcast. 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: It's less stressful for sure, because I feel like when 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: we're not ahead of it, we're like, oh shit, it's Thursday. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: We got to get this ship up. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think sometimes with the Edge podcast, 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: we do try to wait because it's like some of 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: the topics we were making more timely and so it 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: felt like we needed to do it the day before, 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: but it's just not. 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Very realistic with our schedules. So here we are. 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why I felt they need to tattle 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: on us that it's a Tuesday, but. 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: It's important, you know. It's another example of like doing 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: things when you can, and it's thank God for Zoom, 27 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: you know, not a sponsor, but like prior to this, 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: like we would have had to have gotten in a 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: room together, you know, or I guess done it over 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: the phone. Did you ever do that? 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I did a couple times way back in the day. Yeah, 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I forgot about that because Zoom really 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: came to life for me during the pandemic. 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never heard of it before that. 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: I got really acquainted with it. Everything else I did 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: used to do in person, or we would try to. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I had to do a couple over the phone, but 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: the sound was terrible, so you know. Anyway, Happy Friday everyone. 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: It is the end of the month, which again we 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: do this every month too with time, but like I 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: can't believe it. It's it's been so fast, and every 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: time I'm busy, I just feel like I lose time. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be more conscious of that actually, because 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: it's like a little bit sad, like I feel like 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm missing part of the summer because June's almost over. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: It's wild. I don't know if I've ever said this 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: on here, so tell me to shut up if I have, 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: But I never take you to shut up. The theory that, like, 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, my parents used to always say to me, like, 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, enjoy your childhood because time starts to fly 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: when you're older. And you know the idea that, like, 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: when you're a kid, the summer, three months of summer 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: is such a fraction of your overall life. And now 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: that I'm turning the corner to fifty, it's like three 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: months is not a lot of time anymore. So the 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: older you get, a summer feels shorter because it's such 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: a smaller fraction of your life. 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, and you're still working, right oraus. As a child, 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: you like have the time off, which is amazing, but 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I think you have a little more of like the 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: feeling of that having the time off or whatever just 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: makes time go slower. 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, although they canation does fly by in my 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: adulthood now. 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: Wo Sorry that sneeze has been trying to come out 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: since we started recording. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: Hey you guys, we're real here. 68 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: We're just like real life situations. Do you want to 69 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: give me a catch up on like what's happening with you? 70 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been so in work mode that 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know, So why don't you tell me? 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: And the listeners. Any updates in your life? Do you 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: have anything for us? 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: What are some good updates for me? I mean, I 75 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: survived seeing Fest. 76 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: It was a wild time. 77 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: It was a wild time. It was good, though, you know, 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm still tired from it. I don't recover like I 79 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: used to. Yeah, And this last weekend went out on 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: the road for a couple of days, which was fun, 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: but also again like did not sleep that great and 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: I might have been overserved on Friday. 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: It's funny I heard this about you, which is what 84 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. 85 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: I apparently heckled a magician of like making fart noises, and. 86 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: So why don't you tell us what was going on? 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Because I actually went to Bonnery on Sunday and was 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: told a little bit about you left that weekend. And 89 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: someone said to me, does Chip like the next day 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: have anxiety? And I was like, no, I've never I've 91 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: never experienced Chip feeling like, oh gosh. I wish I 92 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't have said that. You're just you just laugh it off. 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: I mean I did ask like do I need to 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: be embarrassed? And then I saw a video and I 95 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, I mean I blame the bartender 96 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: because I drank. I drank the drinks, but they were stiff. 97 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: And anyway, my sister and brother in law, my nieces 98 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: came to the show and we were in Raleigh, North Carolina, 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, I just had a good time. 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: And it was the week after CMA Fest. To see 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: you were kind of like burning stein. 102 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: I was like letting loose and it was all in 103 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: good fun and I was very There was a video. 104 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: There's video of it. So there was a magician that 105 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: came backstage after the show and was. 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: It who was it? Yeah, I was gonna say, is 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: it magic Mike? 108 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I think it is. 109 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, not to be confused with the Chanting Tadum movie. 110 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: He's amazing. Yeah, he does keeps closings amazing. 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: He was doing magic and there were kids at a 112 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: table and I was sitting out of a table sort 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: of in the corner, just hecky, like. 114 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: You should have been at the kids table. 115 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: I was like, but and I had this like little 116 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: fake microphone. But when I watched the videos of myself, 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: like I am struggling to stay awake, Like you can 118 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: tell that's all I'm trying to do. 119 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: It was just stay awake. 120 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. So but whatever, you know, it was fun. Yeah, 121 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: I stayed nice. Other than that's always good. 122 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: Well, but other than heckling the magician all that time 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: that you, me and Mary went to a House of 124 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Cards talked about you have a thing about heckling magicians. 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Magicians, Yeah, well that was. I mean, I can't speak 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: to how good magic mic was because I don't even 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: with the magician, but I can tell you that when 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: we when weckled the guy at House of Cards, like 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: he was a really bad magician. Well he was a 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: bad one, yes, and he thought he was funny too, 131 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: and it wasn't funny. So it's just like right out 132 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: of the gate, we were like, I can't deal, like we're stuck. 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, don't put me in that category. 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: It was the two of y'all. 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I get so stressed out in those situations when y'all 136 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: are being loud. 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to die. 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to associate be associated with these people. 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Like it's so stressful to me. I wanted to like 140 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: crawl out of the room myself. 141 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: It's all in good fun. 142 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't think it's very fun for them, Yeah, 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: probably not. 144 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I always think. 145 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: It's funny, like when you blamed it on the bar 146 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: dinner just then it was like have you ever heard 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: people the next morning after a big night They're like, 148 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I think someone puts something in my drink. Chelsea Hammler 149 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: always has this joke and she's like, yeah, it's called vodka. 150 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: Did she drink a lot? 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: I did drink a lot? 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Well, I went to Bonneru this weekend, as I just mentioned, 154 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: which is such a feat for first of all, because 155 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I had CMA Fest through Sunday. Then that next Monday, 156 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I left town to go to Minneapolis and then New 157 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: York for work. 158 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Hey, back home win. 159 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Then I went to Bonnaru after one day of rest, 160 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: which is like, you know me, that is just that 161 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: is a big accomplishment. But it was really fun. My 162 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: client kit Moore was playing, and then I saw Paramore, 163 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: who I don't really like. Wouldn't say their music is 164 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: really my thing, Like right, they're whatever, They're great, but 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: it's just never really been my thing. Like maybe a 166 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: song or two of like Hayley Williams. Though, have you 167 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: ever seen her perform live? Unbelievable? Was I had no 168 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: idea she is such a performer, She's so charismatic, Like. 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Her voice is killer. 170 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Her voice is killer, but she also like moves around 171 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the stage and is doing basically backbins while she's singing 172 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: these amazing songs. Like it's crazy how much she works 173 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: the stage. I just had such a big respect for her. 174 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: I kind of had a girl crushed because she's just 175 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: like so cute. You just want to be friends with her, 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: Like she seems really fun. 177 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: She was amazing. 178 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Mumford, I am obsessed. 179 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Like did he play Mumford and Son's songs or just 180 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: a solo star? 181 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so he plays a couple Mumford and Son's songs 182 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: and then he does his solo stuff. Then he plays 183 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: like other songs he's written for other artists, which he 184 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: played this one I love by New Basement Tapes. I 185 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: had no idea he had written it, just like crazy, 186 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: but like the fact that he I I have seen 187 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Mumford and Son's play at festivals before. 188 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: And I love them. 189 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean I love that first album, like I wore 190 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it out with such a fan. But I've kind of 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: forgotten about him, if I'm being honest, Like they just 192 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: haven't been on my radar maybe right, So when my 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: friend Courtney was like, oh, Marcus Mumford's playing, we need 194 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to go see I was like, oh yeah, I forgot 195 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: about that. Guy wasn't really like overly excited. 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say. 197 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, okay, the fact that 198 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: he can walk on a huge stage at a music 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: festival with one guitar and sing acoustically. 200 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: It's a no band no band wow. 201 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: And it was a nighttime show, like that's something maybe 202 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: you would get away with in the daytime and kind 203 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: of like, you know, like it's just a dumb down set, 204 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: like it's just okay, that makes sense. His slot was 205 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: an eight thirty slot. 206 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 207 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: People are like Hammer, you know, like it's more of 208 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: like the rockers like Paramour and food Fighters who I 209 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: saw after him. But like he went out there, he 210 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: commands the stage. Then in between the songs he's just 211 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: talking and he's so funny. Of course he has the 212 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: cutest British accent, Like I'm just obsessed, and he's so cute, 213 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: like he has great style, like physically cute, he's just 214 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: so cute. So anyway, I'm new crush on him as well. 215 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: This might make you love him too. I remember early 216 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: early days in of mon Ferd and Sons. Rather than 217 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: having a fan club, he started a book club that 218 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: fans could join and they would they would like read 219 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: a book a month, and he would like I don't 220 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: know if he did zooms or how exactly it works, 221 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: because I wasn't a member. 222 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: He would like get on with them. 223 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: He was part of Yeah, he was part of it, 224 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: or maybe he would write a review or you know, 225 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: like a red but he was interacting with them that 226 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: way versus it just being like a normal like praise me. 227 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just funny too. He's like, you know, I 228 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: tries to like watch what I'm saying in between songs. 229 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm but when I'm up here by myself, 230 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of time to kill, and so I 231 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: just start talking. But then sometimes when it's just me, 232 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little more nervous too, So I have this 233 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: anxious energy and I overtalk. 234 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: And because like I don't. 235 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: Really realize all the curse words I say, because some 236 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: of the words don't mean the same thing where I'm from. Like, 237 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: he's like, I use the word cunt a lot apparently, which. 238 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Is not a bad word. It's a really bad word here. 239 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: But here okay, and here specifically it's directed towards women, 240 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: where he's like, when we use it, it's interchangeable, like 241 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: it's not there's no gender tied to the word cunt, 242 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: you know. Is like I prefer to my buddies as 243 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: good cuts are bad cuts, Like it's right, right, right, yeah. 244 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: So we were. 245 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Just like their version of asshole almost like yeah, and 246 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: he's like, what an asshole that guy? You know? It's 247 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: like you could be like a nice asshole. 248 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And he's like and then I noticed the 249 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: last show I did, there was this like six year 250 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: old boy in the front, and I'm like, gosh, I 251 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: really got. 252 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: To watch what I was saying. 253 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: But then I looked over at him and he was giggling, 254 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, he has a good cut. 255 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Though. I was like, God brings it in the full circle. 256 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Yes. I just loved him so and then we saw 257 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: food Fighters, who I didn't get to say for the 258 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: whole set because we needed to get back to town, 259 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: but like, Dave, girl. 260 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: He's amazing. I just have you ever watched the there's 261 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: a they've got a documentary called back and Forth. 262 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: And what he's talking about driving a mini van. 263 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he yeah, he doesn't the like they because 264 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: you know, obviously he came from Nirvana, Like they could 265 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: have went straight into buses and trucks and all the things, 266 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: but he it was really important for him in the 267 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: beginning to make it feel like it was a new band, 268 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: so he did keep. He purchased a van, and their 269 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: first tour they did in a van. 270 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: I was talking about how he picks his kids up 271 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: in carpl in a mini van, and I'm like, could 272 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: you imagine see Dave Groll driving up to his kids 273 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: school to pick them up in a mini van? Like 274 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: I just love that he's like a soccer dad. 275 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: I love, Yeah, I love he seems like a good dad. 276 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: It just seems super down to earth. Yeah, it was 277 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: kind of eerie. I'm not gonna lie because the drummer 278 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: obviously passed away and so they have I don't who's 279 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the replacement guy, And that's Josh Freeze. 280 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he played in nine Inch Nails. 281 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean he's also an amazing drummer. But like 282 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: it was just the whole of course, and it just 283 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: like it's kind of haunting. I don't know how else 284 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: to say that that but but yeah, I mean we 285 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: were it was raining even and like I stayed through that, 286 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: which you know, for me is like whoa, she must 287 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: be having fun. 288 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: What'd you do with your hair? 289 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: I just let it go. 290 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: Man, lived lived the Sue Fader moment. 291 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: It's a very British sort of festival experience to have 292 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: it like get rainy and muddy and oh wow, are 293 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: your own a little Glastonbury? 294 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had it. I mean for a couple 295 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: of songs at least. Anyway, it was an interesting experience. 296 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I love music festivals when I can like 297 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: be present in them and just enjoy the music. 298 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: So it was nice. 299 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: It was really nice fun yea, I saw I saw 300 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: your Instagram posts and I was like, oh, look at 301 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Kelly down there. I was a farm. 302 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I was really proud of myself for rallying. It felt 303 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: like a big rally because then I'm leaving again today. 304 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, these are not real problems. These are 305 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: things to be grateful for. I'm just tired, but yeah, 306 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: life has been really good over here. Let's talk about 307 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: confront a little bit. How did you get about this month? 308 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was funny because I know that 309 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: and I think we talked about it on here when 310 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: we first said the word, like, obviously we try and 311 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: keep things light and fun on Friday for the edge 312 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: correct and confront on the surface. And when Yeah first 313 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: landed on it, it felt confrontational, you know, like it 314 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a light word. And but I do 315 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: think it's like we found some really interesting ways to 316 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: look at it. Yeah, And you know, at the end 317 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: of the day, we talk about communication being you know, 318 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: paramount to everything, and you know, confrontation is a form 319 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: of communication. And you know, just like you can't know 320 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: what real happiness is unless you like let your let 321 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: yourself feel sad. And it's right again, it's like you 322 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: can't be happy if you are sweeping mad under the 323 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: rug too or unhappy under the rug. And you know, 324 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: sometimes we have you have to stand up for yourself. 325 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: It's a self preservation thing at times. So I thought 326 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: it was really interesting to sort of look at, you know, 327 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: how confronting thing confrontation can be actually good. And you know, 328 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: I think it's as long as you're working toward a 329 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: positive goal. When you're confronting something, it's a good thing. 330 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: It might not be comfortab right, for either person. But 331 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: I do think in the end, confrontation is really a superpower. 332 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: Like if you can master confrontation, like you really could 333 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: do anything, because you'll you'll know how to confront walls 334 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: that you put up for yourself, You'll know how to 335 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: confront walls that others put up for you. You'll know 336 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: how to get through really hard times with whether it's 337 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: relationships or people at work or any sort of you know, partnership, 338 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: Like it's really important because you you know, nobody's going 339 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: to do this life alone, you know, whether it's work 340 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: or play or whatever. So I don't know, it was like, 341 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: in the end, I thought it was a really interesting word. 342 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah thought, you know, it played right into our hands. 343 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: It really did. 344 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I think you kind of hit the nail on the 345 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: head as far as it allowing us to be to 346 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: kind of live our best lives. Like that was something 347 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I talked to you. You remember our girl Terry Cole. 348 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: She's the Boundary Boss and she came on The Edge 349 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Act a couple months ago and talked about how to 350 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: set boundaries with us. I love her. She's a psychotherapist. 351 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: She's the author obviously of that book. But I had 352 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: her back on this week to talk about just what 353 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: healthy confrontation looks like. And one of the points that 354 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: she made was just, you know, you can't live life 355 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: without having things to confront. You just can't, Like you 356 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: can't have really true authentic relationships without having something that 357 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: comes up. Even if it's like the relationship is great, 358 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: there's just gonna be stuff. It's like two humans ever, 359 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: like navigating anything is gonna there's gonna. 360 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: Be her difficult. 361 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all and we all have our own like past, 362 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: our own shit or whatever it is. And so the 363 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: more that we learn to do that in a healthy way, 364 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: but also to take ownership of our own feelings and 365 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: learn how to communicate about them, just like you said, 366 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: that really does open up us, open us up into 367 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: like living a whole life, like a bigger life, a 368 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: more aligned life. Things that we weren't even aware we 369 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: were missing might fly in and I just I don't know, 370 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: I just have such a peace about that and knowing that, 371 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: like the more we actually try to stuff that down, 372 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: Like if you're not confronting anything in your life or 373 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: having confrontation, healthy confrontation in your relationships, something is not authentic, right, 374 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: That's just like you're not communicating. So I just think 375 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: we miss out on so much. So I love the 376 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: topic too, and it really did bring up a lot 377 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: for me. Is there one thing, like specifically you would 378 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: say you learned well? 379 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean I definitely had to. You know, I won't 380 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: go into specifics because it's work stuff and I you know, 381 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: I am pretty open about some things, but like there 382 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: it was a challenging week last week and I had 383 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: to sort of confront something and knowing that, like, I 384 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: think because I had read so much about confrontation for 385 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: or this podcast, it gave me some of the skills 386 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: to like feel comfortable in it because it's like, look, 387 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it's good for people just 388 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: to be confrontational people, you know, like that's not I 389 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: don't think the goal here a healthy confrontation. No, it's 390 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: healthy confrontation. And you know, I think one of the 391 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: most important things about confrontation is that you have built 392 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: a rapport with somebody that you're trying to save or 393 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: rescue or whatever it is. And if the person knows 394 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: that you're coming from a place of caring, then it 395 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: makes it a whole lot easier. Even if it's not comfortable. Yeah, 396 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: so there, you know, there was a moment where I 397 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: really had to stand up for myself at work and 398 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: I felt fine about it. And normally I wouldn't have 399 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: because I would have been more worried about like the 400 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: aftermath of it and just avoided the whole thing. But 401 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: I can look at it now and then like if 402 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: I hadn't done that, I would still be sitting in 403 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: a place where I'm not comfortable. Sure, that's and that's 404 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: not fair, you know. It's like and we got past it, 405 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, like right now in the past, and no 406 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: one's harping on it. We got through it and it's done, 407 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: And had I not confronted it, I might still be 408 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: dealing with it. Well. 409 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Also, you set up I think that, I mean, you 410 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: told me the story obviously, so I know it, but 411 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: like to keep it vague and so that it's not 412 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: just like talking to details about. 413 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: Your work life. 414 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: But like I feel like what you did, you were 415 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: able to do it in a kind way, and it 416 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: was also like using your voice, so you stayed in 417 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: your power like I feel like so many times in 418 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: the past we both have been guilty of this where 419 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: we just give our power away because we. 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: Want to keep the peace. 421 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: But it ends up coming back in the end, like 422 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: in the future, like it lingers, and it sets the 423 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: dynamic up to be one where that's going to happen again, 424 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: because it's like, once it happens and you give your 425 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: power away, that's what you communicate to the other person, 426 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: is okay, right, And so that would have just become 427 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the dynamic. And now hopefully it's like, no, we know, 428 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Chip can't be walked all over or whatever it is, 429 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: or it's going to be called to the table and 430 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to actually deal. And so yeah, like 431 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I just think that you did a really good job. 432 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad that like what you had learned here. 433 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: Helped with that. Yeah, look at us changing lives. 434 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: God, even if it's just our own. 435 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Hey all, you know, if we change one life, we've 436 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: done our jobs. 437 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 438 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: We don't even know if anyone's listening. 439 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: This is like our phone call of the week. I 440 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: had a similar situation. 441 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: There wasn't like there hasn't been a specific action that's 442 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: been taken yet, but I've been kind of grappling. It's 443 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: a work slash friendship situation for me and it plays 444 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: into some other things going on in my life. And 445 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: when I was talking to Terry she I was really 446 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: like trying to pick her brain about healthy confrontation, because 447 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I know I've definitely played my part in unhealthy confrontation in. 448 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: The past, like whether it's that I stuffed. 449 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Things and then I explode or I'm just not dealing 450 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: with things head on, so that I'm I'm like people 451 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: pleasing and trying to keep everyone happy versus actually just 452 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: owning my truth whatever it is. I'm definitely contributed, And 453 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: so I was kind of quizzing her because I don't 454 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: know exactly how to handle this certain situation. And one 455 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: of the issues is is that the person that I'm 456 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: in this situation with, I'm not sure how they're going 457 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: to take it, and so like I feel like I 458 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: want a tiptoe and I want to you know, I'm 459 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: doing the thing where I'm like, well, if I just 460 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: say it this one right way, like then everything might 461 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: be fine. And so that puts so much pressure on 462 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: how I handle it, first of all, But second of all, 463 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: it's just like I'm not being authentic again when I'm 464 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: doing that, I'm people pleasing or being codependent or whatever 465 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: you want. 466 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: To call it. 467 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: And so I really got to the fact of, like 468 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: I can only do my part in confrontation in general, 469 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Like I want to make sure that I'm bringing the 470 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: healthiest version of that that I can, you know, to 471 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: the table. 472 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: But like the other side of it is the other side. 473 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: Of it, and I can't control it, Like I can't 474 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: control how that person reacts, I can't control how they 475 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: take what I say. I can't control what they do 476 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: with it after, And so I have to release them 477 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: and know that Like in my life, I genuinely at 478 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: this point at almost forty one next month. 479 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: By the way, is it just kidding? I feel good? 480 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: I love forties, But yeah, like at this point in 481 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: my life, I really don't want relationships even if their 482 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: work or whatever they are work friendships romantic where healthy 483 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: confrontation isn't happening, or that confrontation in general is just 484 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: one sided. Like if I can't bring that to the 485 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: table and it be received, I'm not sure that's a 486 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: healthy situation for me to be in, period, Right. 487 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you certainly cannot control anyone else's reaction 488 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: to it. What you control is your method of delivering it. 489 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: It's just going to be with kindness and caring. You 490 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: can control like when you do it, because timing can 491 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: be everything. You're not going to want to like it 492 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: when it's a really bad moment for the person. 493 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: To receive it right and then drop bombs. 494 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: And yeah and that like and also too if you 495 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: at the end of it, you can be like, I 496 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: hope this is something that we can get through. I 497 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: really value our friendship like totally. Then that's all you can. 498 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Do, and then it's like up to them to take 499 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: care of their side of the street. 500 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: It's scary. 501 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: I would I mean, I would be lying if I 502 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: didn't say, especially because of how I've been in the past. 503 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think when you're trying to change behaviors, 504 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: it feels really uncomfortable at first, but I'll also feel 505 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: very at peace. And this month with our topics, it's 506 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: just really reiterated to me, like I have to confront 507 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: the my own shit and my own life and that means. 508 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: Good and bad. 509 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Like we've had a lot of other guests, or I've 510 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of other guests on the velvet side 511 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: of things who have faced challenges or themselves and just 512 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: like face them head on and they're like, hey, this 513 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: is what I want for my life. And I feel 514 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: I feel like very in that time of my life, 515 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: like this is what I want for my life, This 516 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: is the kind of relationships that I want, This is 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: who I want to be, and all I can do 518 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: is operate that way and then everything. 519 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: Else is up to the universe. 520 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: So right, yeah, we should. I think it's a really powerful, 521 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: mature place to be. And I know whenever I have 522 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: someone that comes to me and maturely confront something, I 523 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: always appreciate it. 524 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: Me too, and that but to me, that shows the 525 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: health of the other person, you know, or I mean, 526 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: or it's like sometimes we have reactions initially and then 527 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: we can process through them. But like if a person 528 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: isn't capable of that, like what am I doing? Waste 529 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: my energy and time? Like I have spent way too 530 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: much many years trying to like hold the relationship for 531 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: both people and I cannot do that anymore, Like it 532 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: has literally almost killed me. So yeah, so I don't know, 533 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: it was very freeing when I got to that piece 534 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: and just kind of like settling into you know, I 535 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: can only do my part. 536 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. There you go. 537 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: We did have a couple of emails come in that 538 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: specifically to me, asked questions that felt confronting. So should 539 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: we should we give the listeners little advice? So we've 540 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: we've not done this in a minute to have started 541 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: reading an email as. 542 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: I said that I'm here here, how are you typing? 543 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying it. Let's confront this. Yeah, okay. 544 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: This one came from Megan. She said, Hi, love your pod. 545 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: Just ended things with my boyfriend of three point five years. 546 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: Any insight on how to move forward, especially with the 547 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: feeling of shame around being alone but now, but no, 548 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: he's not the person for me in your thirties. So 549 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: she basically got to the point where she's like, this 550 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: is not my person. Timeline sucks because like time's ticking. 551 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the pressure we feel as women, right, Yeah, 552 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: you've mentioned before that you don't really relate to this 553 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: at all. 554 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: Well no, not really. I mean I can relate to 555 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: the like being in a relationship where you're like, oh fuck, 556 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: this isn't the right thing. Yeah, but there being other 557 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: factors that make it scary to end it, you know, 558 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: like you know, I moved here with a boyfriend and 559 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: we were like living in a house together, and it 560 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: was like, right, he was going to be homeless, you know, 561 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, So I mean there are those those 562 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: things that like affect a decision, but yeah, the ticking 563 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: time of like you know, what's it called nature's clock? 564 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: What do you call that? 565 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I sort of feel like this is when you send 566 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: me like all the memes about vaginas, like I love 567 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: when you try to reference anything. 568 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: What is that called? Though? Yeah? Like nature? 569 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: I guess, like I actually don't. 570 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, like your internal clock, like internal. 571 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: Clock, maybe that's yeah, whatever. 572 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Biological clock, biological clock, that's that's the wording. 573 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, I mean that I don't relate to. 574 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: But I you know, I will say that, like, as 575 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: scary as it is, it's a lot scarier to be 576 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: stuck in a relationship that's not for you, amen, and 577 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: opening yourself up to the possibility, opening yourself up to 578 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: the possibility of finding the right person shouldn't be scary 579 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: because now you can, you know. So I think you 580 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: have to look at the positive side of it. And 581 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, I know, loneliness is a thing, but like, 582 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: don't feel shame. You should be really proud of yourself 583 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: for sure taking that step, because that is scary. 584 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you just said that you shouldn't 585 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: feel shame because it's like, first of all, I guess 586 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: the main thing that came up for me when I 587 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: initially read this was I totally relate in the thirties specifically, 588 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: I think that women feel that pressure immensely. 589 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 3: Excuse me, I hick up. 590 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: They feel it immensely because like in your twenties, it's 591 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: kind of all fun and games, like you're just having 592 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: crushes all the time. Maybe it doesn't feel very it 593 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: doesn't like feel like it has. 594 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: To be very serious. 595 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: And then when you get to thirty even it starts 596 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: to feel a little more like, Okay, I can't make 597 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: the excuse of I'm in my twenties anymore. I don't 598 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: need to worry about that. I'm just gonna have fun. 599 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Like you just kind of start to feel like life 600 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: is a little more serious and you're more of an adult, 601 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: and so you start to look at things a little differently. 602 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: But the thing about the timelines, and I do get 603 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: that it's a little more difficult if you want to 604 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: have kids, but like, ultimately, the main thing that I've 605 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: learned is that shit is made up, like it's beat 606 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: into our head from day one, But it's just this 607 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: like human construct that we've created that isn't real, Like 608 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: everyone in this life is on a different journey, and 609 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: to try to say that we should live our lives 610 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: all the same is fucking ridiculous, Like it's just not real. 611 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: And I'm here to learn my lessons so that my 612 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: soul can evolve, and so are you, and so is Megan, 613 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: and so is her ex and like all the things. 614 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: And if that relationship served its like served its purpose 615 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: for the season that it did, that's okay. Like not 616 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: all relationships are supposed to last forever, and in fact, 617 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: like most won't, you know, But that doesn't mean it 618 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: didn't bring something to your life, into your soul for 619 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: its next evolution. So I guess my like, if I 620 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: have to give one advice, it would be to really 621 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: try to let go of the idea that your life 622 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: needs to look like anyone else's and just embrace where 623 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: you are now and like try to stay open to 624 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: what the universe is bringing to you, because you can't 625 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: bring in new good stuff while you're still holding onto 626 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: the past, like right, it sounds like that relationship wasn't 627 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: serving you. So like you said, good for you for 628 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: letting it go, and you're just opening yourself up to 629 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: something greater, like there's only gifts coming your way. That's 630 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: how I feel, and especially if you stay open to that. 631 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm, like I said, about to turn forty one, 632 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I have absolutely no fear about relationships anymore. 633 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 3: It's wild. 634 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: Like I used to feel like, oh my god, time 635 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: is ticking, my life is over. I'm never whatever, but 636 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: like I don't feel it. And so it's opened my 637 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: dating life up to so much more fun, enjoy and 638 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: everyone who's coming is teaching me something and however long 639 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: they stay great and if they need to go, okay, 640 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Like it's just it'll be okay. 641 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: You know. 642 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: If you are worried about kids, go freeze your eggs, 643 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: start saving your money, start doing like you have options, right, 644 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: So I would just really try to let go of 645 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: fitting your life into a little box and like, go, 646 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: do you this is the time to shine, girl? 647 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, and what when doing yourself, that's when someone's 648 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: going to see the authentic you, yes, and be like 649 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: there's my girl. 650 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes, Like getting to know yourself. It's like I kind 651 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: of hate when people talk about you can't love anyone 652 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: else until you love yourself. But I do think the 653 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: truth in that statement is like, until you know yourself, 654 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: it is difficult to find a relationship that works for 655 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: you, you know, because and that was like a lot of 656 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: my thirties was I didn't know who the fuck I 657 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: was at all. I think you guys probably knew me 658 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: more than I knew me, if that makes sense, Like 659 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about my friend group, like you all could 660 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: see who I was more than I could, Like I 661 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: was still testing things out to be like am I 662 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: this person? 663 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: Am I that person? 664 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: You know? 665 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: And now I can sit a little more confidently, and no, 666 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: I am this person. Even the bad parts are like 667 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: the hard parts, and it is interesting, Like you said, 668 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: what it's bringing in is so much more aligned and 669 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: makes me so much happier than anything else I've had. 670 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: So you're growing too. 671 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying always. Okay, here's another one. This one comes 672 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: from Nikki. She said, I'm sorry, I was trying to 673 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: write an email. She's slid into my DMS. I feel 674 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: like but I feel like I or my job is 675 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: attracting so many people that quote unquote want things from me, 676 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: or I find out months later friendships were purely one 677 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: sided so they could enjoy the perks. I even had 678 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: an old friend call me out online for not helping 679 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: her business with my job. I mean, apparently I'm doing 680 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: something right that people want from me, but they don't 681 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: invite me trying to connect because I make things happen. 682 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: So basically she's feeling used the summary of that. But 683 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting played more and more. I 684 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: love connecting with people, like you say, Kelly, but lately 685 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: the balance is off. I don't want to be the 686 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: planner all the time and work and play. I guess 687 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: it would be like if every person you come into 688 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: contact with constantly ask you if their outfit was good. 689 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: That's funny, you ask me if I look at that, 690 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, nope, not. 691 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 3: Worried about you. 692 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: I invite people to my work events because I can, 693 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: but not everyone gets that invite. But I let friends 694 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: go because I let a friend go because she made 695 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: judgy comments about me while I was in Workman. I 696 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: had to stop because having her or company while out 697 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: was becoming hurtful. My true friends say, you need celebrity, 698 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: a micro celebrity boot camp. Everybody wants to be with you, 699 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm not screening situations. Well help, 700 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: you might deal with this a little bit in your job. 701 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like hmm, yeah, I 702 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: potentially I do. I don't. I feel like I surround 703 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: myself with good people. You do that have like gotten 704 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, probably the worst culprit though, would be my sister. 705 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: But I don't ever feel like she's using me, you know, 706 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: like I just think your sister, yeah, and it's Yeah, 707 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: I think the one thing she doesn't recognize is that, 708 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: like any favor that I ask on her behalf is 709 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: one less favor that I can ask for myself. Sure, 710 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, but I'm happy to 711 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: like I want to get her whatever she wants, you know, 712 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: like I'm happy to do that. So I haven't really 713 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, it's been very rare that I have felt 714 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: that I'm being used. But the interesting thing is like 715 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: sometimes in like the dating space, I definitely recognized when 716 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: I am trying to like use it to my advantage too, 717 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: you know. Oh yeah, so and sometimes that's dangerous because 718 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: then ultimately you feel like you're being you like, You're like, 719 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: if it doesn't, if you're not clicking, you're like, now 720 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: they're just using me, you know, And sure. 721 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then ultimately you were the one who started 722 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: I was the one that started it. 723 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: So you know, I think we're all a little guilty 724 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: of it because it's Yeah, I think sometimes that, you know, 725 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: it's really important with work to not let your work 726 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: define who you are, I know, and in those instances 727 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: that's like me being like part of me is like 728 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: this special access I can get you, and that's not me. 729 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: You know. If this person is not gonna like me, 730 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: they're not gonna like me. If they're gonna like me, 731 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: they're gonna like me no matter what I do. The 732 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: other stuff is just like icing. So I do think 733 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: it's important for Nikki to like remember that, like, her 734 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: job isn't what she does, or isn't her job isn't 735 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: who she is, And if she feels like anyone in 736 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: her life is starting to look at her as her job, 737 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: then it's probably a good time to stop inviting them 738 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: to do the fun things that your job, you know, 739 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: entitles you to, so that people stop associating and then 740 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: like your real friends will appreciate the time away from 741 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: work with you a lot more. I mean, for us 742 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: working in music, a lot of what I like to 743 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: do in my free time is go to see shows, 744 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, It's just what I love to do. So 745 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: and it's it's harder for me because I don't think 746 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: of those as like work things. I think of those 747 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: as things that I'm getting to do and I want 748 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: some friends to come along with me. So it's a 749 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: little bit different. 750 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: But don't you feel like, for the most part, like 751 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: you would be talking about when you say friends, you're 752 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: talking about our friends a lot of coworkers well and coworkers, 753 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: and it's like people that we've been friends with for 754 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: so long that I think we've developed the relationship ahead 755 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: of time. So, like, I guess my point is saying, 756 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: like you made a great point when you said I 757 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: have to realize when I'm leading with that in dating 758 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: because I don't know these that you have to kind 759 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: of earn that sort that space in your life. 760 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yes, yeah, correct. 761 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: I love that point. I think that is really great. 762 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: And also, like I do talk about this a lot 763 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: where I feel like I can get in that one 764 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: sided dynamic where everyone just like wants something from me, 765 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: but like, ultimately that's on me. It always goes back 766 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: to me. Like if I have actually had a couple 767 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: friends going through really hard times, and I myself have 768 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: had a lot on my plate, and so I've had 769 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: to really like catch myself because I can start overgiving 770 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: and taking on their problems as my own because I 771 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: do want to help them. They're people that I love. 772 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: But if it's taking away, like if it's giving so 773 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: much energy that I'm not able to function in my 774 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: own life, that's not good for either of us, Like, 775 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and I know they wouldn't ultimately want me to do that, 776 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: and so that's when I have to start setting boundaries. 777 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Mostly the boundaries are with myself if I'm being really honest, 778 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: like I feel like most of my friends are very 779 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: accepting of me, like needing to stay to boundary. It's 780 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: mostly like I have to watch myself sort of like 781 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: what you're saying with the dating, to where I'm holding 782 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: true to myself and my schedule and my needs first, 783 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: and then when I'm my cup is full, saying okay, 784 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: like what can I do? Because if we're depleted in 785 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: our and we're on empty, like we're not good for 786 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: anyone else either. So I think there's it's like a 787 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: multiple thing. It's like, don't lead with that, like you said, 788 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: like let people earn that space in your life. And 789 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: then also if you continuously are finding this dynamic, like 790 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: it might be time to look at why or like 791 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: how much you're giving in a relationship and if you're 792 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: holding boundaries with yourself or kind of because I think 793 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: kind of like we'll keep attracting the same thing until. 794 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: We learn the last thing. 795 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: So like exactly you're continuously in that, then there's something 796 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: the universe is trying to show you. So that's what 797 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: I got on that one. 798 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: There. 799 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: You go always about looking at the fucking mirror, you know, Liken. 800 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: It's well, especially when it's something that is habitual is 801 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: not the word, If it's you're seeing it come up 802 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: a lot in your life. Oh yeah, then I think 803 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: it's important to look in the mirror and be like, 804 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: well maybe it's not what's. 805 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: The common denominated? 806 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, like I talked about that with 807 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: Terry too. You know, our instinct as humans is to 808 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: always look at the other person. It's so much easier 809 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: to put blame like, especially when we're confronting new issues 810 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: in our life, it's just like, well, they did this, 811 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: but like what's your part in it? And that's not 812 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: to say they're not doing anything. You just can't control them, 813 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: so you can only control yourself anyway, that's our phase. 814 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: Uh huh. Do you have anything else? I can't even 815 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: say it without laughing, though, Do you have anything else 816 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: you want to give to the people about this month 817 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: of confrontation or confronting? 818 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: No, I'll just reiterate to like, remember to be as 819 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: kind as possible when confronting things, whether it's to yourself 820 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: or to others. 821 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys haven't listened to the Terry podcast yet. 822 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: She gave an amazing example of how she confronted something 823 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: with her husband that I love, Like, she sat with 824 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: it for a minute until she and she couldn't like 825 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: something kept coming up for her. She sat with it 826 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: to try to figure out but it was the behavior 827 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: he was doing, but it was about something in her 828 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: and she never actually figured out exactly what it was 829 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: with her. But the way she approached the conversation with 830 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: him was with so much ownership and then just asking 831 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: for what you need. And I just loved it. It 832 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: like really helped me. So go check out that podcast 833 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: with Terry Cole. We also just had a bunch of 834 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: fun guests. One I did tell you I really the 835 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: one thing popping up in my life. And we're not 836 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: going to get to this topic today, but if anyone 837 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: else has any thoughts on this ap Pacino situation. 838 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I can't get off it. 839 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: Like I literally cannot get off the fact that this 840 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: eighty three year old man just had a baby with a. 841 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: Twenty nine year old I'm suck. 842 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody, there's one person in my life who gave 843 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: me the reaction I wanted, and everyone else was kind 844 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: of like. 845 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: Why do you care? 846 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of where I said, It's like 847 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: why do I care? But it's also I don't know why, 848 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: but I'm just he's eighty three, Like, I. 849 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Can't believe you can still get it up. 850 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: I know, well, I'm sure there's a pill involved, but maybe, 851 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: but like his sperm is still good. It's the best. 852 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: That's the fucked up thing about life. The men can 853 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: have kids until literally the day they die, and we 854 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: literally have a geriatric pregnancy at the age of thirty five, 855 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: don't even get me started on this. 856 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: Don't even started. 857 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 3: It's just like a whole we don't have. 858 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: Wow. 859 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so it is literally like it's why you 860 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: guys don't feel the pressure. I mean, like, I know 861 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you're you're in a gay relationship, and so I think 862 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: it's a little different. But in hetero relationships, like there's 863 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: so much of that Peter Pan syndrom, and guys are like, 864 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: what's the rush, And we're like, there's such a rush, 865 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: Like right, we have to live in the rush, you know, 866 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: we're forced to. And so we're also forced I think, 867 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: to grow up a lot faster in a lot of ways. 868 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, if I was a dude, I'd be like, whoa, 869 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: I can have a baby a day three bitch. 870 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: God. I mean that's but like maybe it is a 871 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: self preservation thing too, because women take on so much 872 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: work in the role of being a mother. Could you 873 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: imagine if you were a new mother at eighty five 874 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: years old, you couldn't be you couldn't. I think dad 875 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: can just like go watch TV and like a normal 876 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, at any age, that's what they're doing. You know. 877 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: It's like yeah, and that's I'm stereotyping. I know it's 878 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: not every dad, but the. 879 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 3: Hands on you think al Pacino is, let's. 880 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 2: Talk because he know the kid's name, who knows, he 881 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: probably will have trouble remembering it at that age. So 882 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: I just like that four. 883 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, his kids, his other kids are older 884 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: than his new baby mama. Yeah, I'm being so judgy 885 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: right now. 886 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 3: I know. 887 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: It's just one of those topics that I like, saw 888 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: the headline this week and I like skip past it, 889 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: and then I was scrolling more and then I was like, 890 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: wait what, And I went back and I went on 891 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: such a deep dive of that girl because everyone too 892 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: was like, well, money can buy a lot or whatever. 893 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: That girl's rich. She's like a royal. They have billions 894 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: of dollars. She doesn't need money. Also, guess who she 895 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: dated before Appucino. Oh, Nick Jagger in his seventies. 896 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: Wow, she likes At least she's consistent. 897 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't even have daddy issues. She has 898 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: granddaddy issues. 899 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: Right. 900 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: It feels I just like there's I don't know, I 901 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: know way too much about this family now, but her 902 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: sister dated Prince Michael Jackson. Prince Jackson, Oh really do 903 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: you have any questions about this family? You, guys, email 904 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: me at the Edge at velvetech dot com because I 905 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: know everything. 906 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 3: Right, I'm trying. 907 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: My brain sometimes just won't let me be anyway. Like 908 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: I said, you can email us at the edge at 909 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: velvetedge dot com. You can also hit me up on Instagram. 910 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm at velvet Edge Chip. 911 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 2: I'm at Chip dorsh. It's c H I P d 912 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: O R S c H. 913 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: And as you guys are going into the weekend and 914 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: you're living on the edge, I hope you can remember 915 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: to do this way more than I can and always 916 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: remember to a. 917 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 2: Casual. 918 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: Wow, you really made us like wait for that one. 919 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 2: It was like a little I think maybe too loud. 920 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: Okay, all right bye