1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Dan Orlovsky said, to join us here the 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: ESPN football analyst who joins us on the program, Dan, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: who has the best chance to win the Rams of 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the Chargers in your opinion? Oh, definitely. The Rams are 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: one established coaching culture with McBay two. They've got an 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: absolute superstar at quarterback that proven it year after year 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: after year. I love Justin Herbert, but one year doesn't 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: make me believe that you're going to be the same 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: guy year after year. I think it takes two or 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: three years to really figure out if you're going to 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: be at that position in the NFL. I think that 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: their offensive line has played together longer for the Rams 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: that it has for the Chargers. I love the moves 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: that the Chargers made up front. That cohesion's got to 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: come together. I think that they've got the best player 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: in football that probably isn't a quarterback or Travis Kelsey 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald and Ramsey two are the best at least, 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: so I would say that MS, but the Chargers are 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: no question about it coming the Zach Wilson shown up 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: for camp now and the expectation level, what do you 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: think the expectations are on Zach Wilson his rookie year, Yeah, 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: they're They're unrealistically high because everyone saw what the some 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: of the plays that he was a part of in college, 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: some of those jaw dropping moments, some of those throws 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: where you just go, you're not supposed to be able 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: to do that. If you had asked me that fork 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: watched four months ago that question, my answer is a 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: little bit different than it is now because of the 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: tragedy that happened to Greg Knapp. And that's that's the 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of the sad truth of the situation. He's walking 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: into a relatively difficult situation right now. I mean, he's 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: going into a room that does not have a guy 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: on that quarterback room or in that quarterback room that 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: has ever taken a snap in the NFL. Now, just 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: because you have a veteran doesn't mean you're going to 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: be great, but goodness, it helps. Imagine trying to learn 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: how to ride a bike and no one can teach 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: you how, or no one can show you how, as 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: none of those kids have ever done it in the NFL. 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: I think the second thing is his offensive coordinator, Michael Floor, 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Matt mcfloor, the head coach in Green Bay, his brother. 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: He's never called a play in the NFL. And while 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I love the scheme that he's bringing it, he's been 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: around Kyle Shanahan for a while. Calling plays is a 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: completely different animal. I have been around a lot of 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: really really really good coaches, super smart, great offensive minds, 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: and they can't call plays because calling play is rhythm 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: and its art and its field. And then third thing 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: is the loss of great Greg Napple was one of 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: the best quarterback coaches in the NFL who just a 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: track record with young quarterbacks and he's a guy who 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: had experienced calling plays in the NFL that I would 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: imagine Michael Floor was going to lean on some and 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: to have those three pieces not in place, that's some 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: real I mean obviously real life adversity with this passing, 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: but also just football adversity with Zach Wilson. Who should 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: trade for DeShawn Watson? And when? When is when you 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: are one hundred percent sure of what is going to 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: happen with the off the field allegations. I don't think 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: you could be nine. I think you'd rather be late 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: to this party than early, because what the allegations are real, 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: real stuff, right, And so I think you've got to 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: be really confident in the information that you get, whether 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: that's your your own people and what's going to happen 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: or word from the NFL. I think the teams that 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: are attached to him are the two likeliest. Whether it's 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphia or Miami, you know, both had the capitol to 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: do so going into next year's draft, both have you know, 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: somewhat question marks at the quarterback position. I think Jalen 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Hurts is a guy that we've only seen get better 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: over the last four years we've watched him play football, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: whether it was at Bama, Oklahoma or last year, and 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: I love the kid, and I love his attitude. Will 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: he continued to progress good enough to be a thrower. 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And then for Miami, this is a huge year for 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: two us. Whether it's expedited or not, it's huge. I mean, 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: they spent four picks or three picks on their offensive 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: line in last year's draft. Those guys are going to 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: be much better performance wives this year. And then those 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: skill position players. I mean they got four guys that 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: are good players, man, five guys. DeVante Parker is a 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: good player. Waddle is going to be an impactful guy. 84 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, Will Fuller when he's healthy, can go and 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: those two tight ends because sick, he's a phenomenal and 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Long at a Boston College is a really really 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: good player. So I think they got some really good 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: skill position guys. He has got to go and play 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: really good football. Talking to Dan Orlovsky of the Mother's Ship. 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: This Saturday, they will be eleven hours of original live 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: programming across ESPN and ABC. Dan will be part of 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: NFL Live Back Together Saturday from nine am until noon 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Eastern and you can see Dan with Laura rutt Ledge, 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Spears, Chris Mortenson, and Adam Schefter. We always love 95 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: to give out grades or who won, who lost? How 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: did the Packers do this week? Dan, I think the 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: Packer is a huge win. I mean a week ago 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: it was like, well, it sounded like Aaron Rodgers not coming. 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: I was adamant, like I don't think he's ever gonna 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: play for Green Bay again. And if you go back 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: to the moment they selected Jordan Love, right the moment 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: they take Jordan Love and move up in the draft 103 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: and Tacom I would put myself into Brian Goodencous their 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: general managers shoes and he would say, what's the ideal 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: situation over the next two years. He would say, well, 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: our football team is going to be really good. Aaron 107 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers will be our quarterback for at least two more years. 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna play awesome football, and we can develop Jordan 109 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Love and still be a contender. Like that would be 110 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: the ideal utopia home run situation. Well, that's exactly where 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: they are. And that's why I think like the fact 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: that they got him to come back and they don't 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: have to rush that quarterback on the field, and he's 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: still gonna play high level MVP poopol and they're still 115 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: going to be in the conversation for the NFC title 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: and in the Super Bowl. Like, I just feel like 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that's an absolute home run for the Green Bay Factors. 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Now what it means for February of twenty twenty two 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: and beyond, obviously there is going to be some, you know, 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: very interesting conversations, but they got their ideal situation. They're 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: they're hopeful situation. And that's why I think Aaron, you know, 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I think it's all what did Aaron actually want? Because 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I've heard people say, well, he was just saying this 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: because he wanted to try to get out after this season, 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: or he really wanted to get out this season. Well, 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: I guess we'll probably never know exactly what he wanted, truthfully, 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: but I just feel like Aaron having to come back 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: and still not exactly control what he can do after 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: this season. You got to feel really good if you're 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the Packers fans that you know you got the best 131 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: of both worlds. Essentially. Yeah, I think you got him. 132 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: He's a one and dunner. I also, you know Vegas 133 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: has Packers over under a ten wins here, and they're 134 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: playing in a suspect division and they have to face 135 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the AFC North and the a FC West. Those are 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: arguably the two toughest divisions we have in football. So 137 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you can have lofty goals if 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: they're going to win thirteen and go to the NFC 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: title game. I wouldn't be so sure with that, just 140 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: because of the schedule that they're going to have to face. 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: They may breeze through, you know, their their conference. They 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: may get tripped up by the Bears one time, or 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: maybe the Vikings. But AFC North and AFC West, that's tough. Sledding. 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Then I'll take two things. I think they're a championship roster. 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: I really do. This is the same football team we 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: watched win a ton of games of last years. I 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: don't know if they're a championship team, Like, I just 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: don't know how what can have what has transpired over 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the last four months. Well I can sit here and 150 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: say like, yeah, no, doubt their championship team because there's 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: those things that you can't measure that matter. And this 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: is a football team that has not focused on football 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: over the last four months, at least in the forefront, 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: while Tampa has and Seattle has, and the Rams have 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: and Washington has, like those teams have been locked in 156 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: on football and Green Bay hasn't. And I think their 157 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: schedule is very difficult. I'd say two things that really 158 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: I'll be focused because I think they'll be really good 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: and they'll win a bunch of games all that stuff, 160 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Like is there a different sense of urgency by everybody 161 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: you know? Like, well the coaches coaches certain situations differently 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: because of we got one last year, like hey, fourth down, no, 163 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: and on on. I'll just bringing this seatitle game that 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: that kield opportunity Billy you maybe even a regular season, 165 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: they'll be more aggressive in certain situations because they only 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: they know they have a smaller window. And then how 167 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: often do they keep the main thing the main thing, 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: and that's winning. You know, we've we've watched them bring 169 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: Randall cob back and Brian Goody gooster the general managers 170 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: said yeah, it was because you know Aaron want in 171 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: the back wool and that keeping the main thing the 172 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: main thing. Like how does it all work together? Because 173 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: there might be decisions throughout the season or moments throughout 174 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: the season where like do they do things or say 175 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: things or make decisions based upon this might give us 176 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the best chance to keep him around after this year 177 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: or does it give us the best chance to win? 178 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes those will align and sometimes they won't. Yeah, it's tricky. 179 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: You know when the GM we applaud Rogers because of 180 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: full transparency at his press press conference, when the GM 181 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Bryan Goudacoons has full transparency basically saying hey, I didn't 182 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: want to bring in Randall Cobbin. We did it. We 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: did it as a favor for Aaron, And then people 184 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: are like, oh, I can't believe that he said that publicly, 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: like how much do you I just don't know how 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: much is going to be too much in this situation 187 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: for the front office to go Aaron, what do you think? Yeah? Yeah, 188 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: I was around Matthew Stafford in Detroit when he was 189 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: a little bit older, and they would always like, I guess, 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: get his input on certain situations into or certain people. 191 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: And how much they waited in different conversations. I don't know, 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: but like that's what I'm saying, Like the main thing 193 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: is the main thing, right, and how I believe that's 194 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the case for Aaron, And but different vantage points are 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: different vantage points and how they do think differently, and 196 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: and I just it's it's obviously a delicate balance that 197 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: you've got to be very very good at and very 198 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: firm with because general managers are paid to run teams 199 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks are paid to be the face of the 200 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: organization and that's multifaceted and they haven't done that enough 201 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: with Aaron. But you also don't you don't want to 202 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: give full power to any any single individuals. Safe travels there, Dan, 203 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us. 204 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Thank then. That's Dan Orlovsky, former NFL quarterback, Espian football 205 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Analyst and NFL Live Back Together coming up this Saturday. 206 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: That'll be noon Eastern nine to noon Eastern with Laura Rutledge, 207 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Your host, Marcus Spears, Chris Mortenson, and Adam Schefter. Brian 208 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: and Michigan joins us on the program. Hi, Brian, what 209 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: is on your mind today? Hey guys, real quick, I'm 210 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: a Packer fan. Just kind of want to give my 211 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: quick input here. I'm kind of fascinating the Packers situation always. 212 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I've always been kind of curious where he's going to 213 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: finish his career. I think since twenty fourteen, since an 214 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: NFC Championship loss, he just warred on his face. He 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: looks so telling that he wanted to make some changes, 216 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: and it's kind of surprising. He's a way to tell now, 217 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: to actually speak out publicly, not passive aggressive, but actually 218 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: address the Green Bay media and the folks. But what 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: do you think it is. I don't think he pulls 220 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: a harve and sticks it to them by going to 221 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: a division team. I think he plays in the AFC 222 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: one year he'd turned into going forty into twenty twenty three, 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: be forty during the year. I think it goes right 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: to Tampa doesn't pull it Tom Brady, he just becomes 225 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and it kind of sets up perfectly. Say 226 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Tom plays two more years, Aaron won in the AFC, 227 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: and he just goes right to the Bucks. I'm sure 228 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: there'll be a great roster at that point still, and 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: he's got a shout at the super Bowl. I think 230 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: it's it's impossible. But I don't know if you want 231 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: to follow Tom Brady. But Brian, thank you. Plus, the 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: Packers aren't going to let him go. If they're gonna 233 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: trade him and you're giving up pieces for Aaron Rodgers, 234 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: you're not going to take Aaron Rodgers for one year. 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Denver makes sense because not winning a Super Bowl, 236 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: send him to the AFC and good luck in the 237 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: a f C West there that couldn't come back to 238 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: haunt you if you let him go to it. Now 239 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, he can stop over one year in Denver. 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen because Denver is going 241 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: to have to give up a lot and Rogers doesn't 242 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: get to pick. Hey, I want to go to this team. 243 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Rogers is vindictive in a 244 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: way that Farb was like I'm gonna play for the Vikings, don't. 245 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: I can't see Rogers going I'm going to the Lions 246 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come back and haunt you in the division. 247 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. He's got to win, 248 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: He's got to win another championship, and this gives him 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: the best chance where he goes from there. Then he 250 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: has his say. So this all comes back to Tom Brady. 251 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: These other quarterbacks went, do you see what Brady got 252 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: to do? He got he got to bring in his friends, 253 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: he got to have a seat at the table. These 254 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks are going, I'm sure Ben Roethlisberger's like, hello, anybody. 255 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what Drew Brees's input was with Sean Payton, 256 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers? What kind of input did he have? How 257 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: much do you earn? And it goes, I want you 258 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: to help me with free agency that if I'm a GM, 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: I say to Aaron Rodgers, Aaron, thinking about this guy, 260 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: what do you think got any relationship with him? Think 261 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: he'd be a good addition? You do? Okay, here's his number? 262 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Will you call him? Okay? So he helps you, But 263 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: that player will help Aaron Rodgers as well. I love that. 264 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Not now, should Aaron have been consulted on who bringing 265 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: in to be his head coach? Yes? I do believe it, 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: even if you just give the background and say, hey, 267 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: where this guy Matt Lafleur. But you know we want 268 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: you to meet him too, or we want to give 269 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: you a heads up here with that. Now do you 270 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: tell him, hey, we're going to take Jordan love. You 271 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: know that comes down to what is your relationship or 272 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: lack thereof with Aaron Rodgers? Because tom Brady's involved far 273 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: more than I think everybody realizes, because why why wouldn't you? 274 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I bring him into the inner circle here? 275 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: But if you're bringing tom Brady in, then you have 276 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: to bring him in all the way. If you bring 277 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers back, then bringing back all the way. The 278 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: only chance you have to keep him is if you 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: bring him back all the way. Are you going to 280 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: go above and beyond? Are you going to go overboard? 281 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Yes you will. But the only way you keep him 282 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: is if you say to him, we're listening to you, 283 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: We heard you, loud and clear. Play the days up next. 284 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 285 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific 286 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAPP. Speaking 287 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: of stars, it was pretty exciting while I was doing 288 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: the show, and I'm keeping an eye on what was 289 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: going on with Team USA, the soccer team facing the Netherlands. 290 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: And then it was a penalty shootout, and then all 291 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it don's on me again. That a 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: listen there. The goalkeeper is somebody I've known. I think 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: she's been like ten or eleven years of age. She's 294 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: there stopping these penalty kicks and I'm acting like she's 295 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: my daughter. I'm nervous and a listener. The star of 296 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: a Team USA joining us from the team bus. How 297 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: do you feel, a Lissa? They being good? Thanks for 298 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: having me feel great. Just happen to get the win, 299 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: moving on the seven finals, big win for US. Oh no, no, no, 300 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: that's you're giving me that this stock you know, come on, 301 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: you gotta be you got to be excited. I am. 302 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Um, this is this is a good 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: one for us. Needed it, um And yeah, I've been 304 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: very very excited. Part of the team, part of the group. Um, 305 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, came into this just wanting to do what 306 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I could to help this team win gold medal and 307 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: proud of the performance that was be able to put 308 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: in tonight and help us get one step closer to that. 309 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: How nervous were you? Probably not as much as my parents, 310 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: but to check in with them afterwards, but I think 311 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: they're still standing. I can't imagine I was nervous of 312 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: the families. Yeah, I was nervous watching you. But what 313 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: how much scouting reports do you have on penalty kicks 314 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: with tendencies of players? You know, it's kind of a mix. 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of got their own, um, you know, routines 316 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: or you know, methods of how to go about shootouts 317 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and different things. And I think the biggest thing is 318 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: just trying to spend a moment to stay um. You know, 319 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: it's focused and you know as clear headed as you 320 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: can in that moment and let all of your things 321 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: from training kind of take over and um and you 322 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: just kind of hope for the best from there. You're 323 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: on the team bus right now, I am okay? Are you? 324 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Are you being quiet on purpose? Because you don't want 325 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: to be the star here and dry? Like if it 326 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: was Rapino, we would be able. She'd be yelling and screaming. Yeah, 327 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's two different kinds of people in this world. 328 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: You look angry? Is that? Is that on purpose? When 329 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: when you're in goal. I don't think it's meant to 330 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: come off as anger, but more of a soopis kind 331 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: of thing, just kind of stain in the zone. I 332 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: guess that's my ville and face. Are you Is it 333 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: a scowl? Like are you trying to present something to 334 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: the opposition? I'm really not. I think that's just kind 335 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: of what my face looks like. What was the celebration. 336 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: Was there a celebration after the win? H Yeah, I 337 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: mean it's just a lot of um, you know, a 338 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: lot of us, a lot of you know, everyone's excited. Everyone. 339 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's a big one for us. Um. You 340 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: know it's going to come quick. We've got another now 341 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: semi finals in me two days, I think, so um 342 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: we'll be able to enjoy it tonight, be excited, and 343 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow we're gonna switch gears pretty quickly. Yeah, you have 344 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Canada on Monday. What do you know about Canada? We 345 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: play them a few times, so um sol is a 346 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: hard fought battle with them. UM, you know, regional opponent. 347 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: UM play them often very familiar with each other and 348 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: it's always always a battle. UM, so we're we're going 349 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: to have to bring our a game to that and 350 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: hopefully this this game, UM, we can kind of ride 351 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: this high into that game and get a good result. 352 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: My best to your parents, and congratulations so far. And 353 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: how about we don't have it go to penalty kicks 354 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: next time? Listen? Yes, yes, I'm sure my parents would 355 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: appreciate that one. Congrats and good luck and all right, 356 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: let's listen there, she's the goalkeeper for team you and 357 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: saying cool. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 358 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 359 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search 360 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: FSR to listen live. Hey it's me Rob Parker. Check 361 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for twenty 362 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the biggest 363 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: name to newsmakers in the sport. 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So in the last few days, 371 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: really weeks, the Lakers have basically dangled the Kyle Kuzma 372 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Contavious called Will Pope package to almost every team that's 373 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: out there, and they didn't have a lot of takers. 374 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: But in the last two or three days there was 375 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: some traction with Sacramento on a Buddy Healed trade, And 376 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: if you look at that trade, it makes sense. I 377 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: mean Healed. Heal's one of those guys that, yeah, you 378 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of look at him as empty calories in a way, 379 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: never been on a winning team. But the numbers are 380 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: what they are. He's spent close to or above forty 381 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: percent from three in each of the last four seasons. 382 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: And when you look at what the Lakers need, perimeter 383 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: shooting is at the top of that list. Instead to 384 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: pivot and to basically deliver that exact same package you 385 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: were going to send Sacramento for Healed to Washington for 386 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Westbrook is puzzling. And I just didn't carpet bombed kind 387 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: of every assistant coach that I know with texts and 388 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: ask them, you know, what do they think? And every 389 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: one of them said, it doesn't make a lot of sense. 390 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: If you're Lebron James, what you're looking for is a 391 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: floor spacer and a secondary playmaker. Russ is not a 392 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: floor spacer and is a primary playmaker. Somebody we know 393 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: succeeds with the ball in his hands. So why did 394 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: they do it? It's it's still hard to I haven't 395 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: talked to anybody in LA since the deal got done 396 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: last night, Dan, so I don't I don't know, but 397 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: there's obviously a strong relationship between Lebron and Russell Westbrook. 398 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I wonder what voice Lebron had in all this so 399 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I can explain it with Dan, Like, you know Russ, 400 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: you know me. I've always been a pretty strong defender 401 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: of Russell Westbrook. I firmly believe that this triple double 402 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: mark he's been putting up over the years is impressive, 403 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: But for that team, it doesn't make a lot of 404 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: basketball sense. I love the Buddy Healed possibility because that's 405 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: what they needed. Uh, Like, who's who's the point guard 406 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: on this team? Now? Well, that's the that's the thing, 407 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: because you know, the last two years under Frank Vogel, 408 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: you know it was a priority for Vogel to say, Lebron, 409 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: you are now the point guard. We're going to transition 410 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: you to being the primary playmaker. Russ is not like 411 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, who you can play off the ball when CG. 412 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: McCollum is operating as point guard. He's someone that needs 413 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and needs to play downhill 414 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: in order to be successful. I mean, in like a 415 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: perfect world, you'd say, Russ, you're the sixth man and 416 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: you come off the bench and you be that instant 417 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: offense guy to carve up second units. But we both 418 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: know that's not going to happen. So Russ ad Lebron 419 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: surrounded by Taylon Horne and Tucker and I don't know, Caruso. 420 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Maybe in that front court, you're obviously gonna have to 421 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: play another big because we know a D doesn't want 422 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: to be a five for most of his his playing time. 423 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: So I guess you're talking about Marcus All who's got 424 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: a contract for next year. It just seems if you're 425 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: a team looking at the Lakers, how to defend them, 426 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna shrink the floor a lot and make them 427 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: beat you from three point right, Yeah, I know. Plus 428 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Russ has one speed and can Lebron play at that speed? 429 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Are they best at that speed? I it's puzzling. Well 430 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: they do they you know, they do want to play 431 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: up tempo like that's something that's been a staple of 432 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: what at least how Frank Bogel wants to play. Ideally, 433 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: So Lebron at thirty seven, you're gonna be well no, 434 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's a case where Lebron's not you know, 435 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Lebron's not filling the lane anymore. Like you know, maybe 436 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: it's the case where Russ just kind of initiates a 437 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of the the up tempo offense and they see 438 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: if they get easy buckets that way. Dan, Honestly, I'm 439 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: grasping at straws a little bit here, because you know, 440 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: defenses are smart, defensive coaches are smart. They're going to 441 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: figure out how to shrink the floor and make questions. 442 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Dan, you go back to the Bubble 443 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: play offs. I remember watching in the bubble Lakers against Rockets. 444 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the priorities for the Lakers defensively 445 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: was to take the ball out of James Harden's hands 446 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and make Russ shoot, and he had some good moments. 447 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: But how they played against Russ is how teams are 448 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: not going to start playing against them whatever. I need 449 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a good laugh. I always look at what the seventy 450 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: Sixers are asking for Ben Simmons, and I don't know 451 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: what the strategy is unless it's, Hey, we're going to 452 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: ask for all of this knowing that we'll take half 453 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: of this. But at some point do teams stop calling 454 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: because it just seems so preposterous what they ask from 455 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: the Warriors or what they asked from the Spurs. It's crazy. Yeah, 456 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: but I think it's really smart because if you're not 457 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: highly motivated to move Ben Simmons, which the Sixers don't 458 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: need to be. He's under contract for four more years. Yes, 459 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I I think both sides agree that a divorce is 460 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: probably in the best interest of everyone, but they don't 461 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: need to do it right now. They're on the position 462 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: that New Orleans was in a couple of years ago, 463 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: but they had to move Anthony Davis in order to 464 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: get something back in return. They can be patient with this, 465 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: so why not asked for the moon and hope that 466 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: some GM out there is crazy enough to give it 467 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to them. If I've said this to you before, the 468 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Sixers are going to be watching Portland. Everybody is, and 469 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: if you're the Sixers, why not see if there's a 470 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: Godfather offer out there right now? And if there's not, 471 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: let's just wait. Maybe that means bringing Ben Simmons to 472 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: training camp in September October and then see what happens 473 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: with the Trailblazers, because if you just be patient, you 474 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: could wind up with some combination of either Damian Lillard 475 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: or CJ McCollum and that's gonna make your team significantly better. 476 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: So I think Daryl Moray is playing this perfectly right now. 477 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: Ask are the biggest possible trade backage and see if 478 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: somebody is crazy enough out there to give it to Well, 479 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: you've devalued him. The seventy six Ers have devalued him, 480 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: but then they overvalue him. Yeah, but how did they 481 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: devalue him because they're shopping him? Well yeah, but it's 482 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's like no, you know, no 483 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: GM is picking up their phone going, Wow, you're really 484 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna deal Ben Simmons. Like everybody knows it, Like everybody 485 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: can see how this team his stock has never been lower, Chris, 486 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: It's never been lower. But I do think the more 487 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: time passes from that playoff performance, you're going to remember 488 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the positives more than the negatives. And there are a 489 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: lot of positives with Ben Simmons. So the worst thing 490 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Philadelphia can do is, you know, make a deal that 491 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: even one that resembles the James Harden deal. I mean, 492 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: the Rockets didn't get a lot in the James Harden deal. 493 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: You want something that more resembles like Paul George. But 494 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: but Harden was devalued because he was out of shape 495 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: and he wanted out to tell own. Like Ben Simmons 496 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: is in shape. He didn't want out of town and 497 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: he is, well, yeah, hardened Harden. You needed to deal 498 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: because Harden, yes, was you know, doing his best George 499 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Costanza there at the end of his time. But they 500 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: want a Hardened Hall and Ben Simmons isn't James Harden. Well, 501 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: they want more than a Harden Hall. That's the whole 502 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: thing that, like, the Harden Hall isn't very good. Like 503 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: you look back at that deal, is what did they 504 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: get for that? I mean, unless the nets implode in 505 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: the way the Nets imploded ten years ago, that's not 506 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: going to be a very good hall of draft picks. 507 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: They want the Paul George Hall. They want something that 508 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: closer resembles that, and honestly, I think they might be 509 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: able to get it at some point, Like it might 510 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: be in their best interest to rehabilitate Ben Simmons next season, 511 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: Isn't it Like if you could just remind people how 512 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: good this guy is, like a year or so removed 513 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: from being what all NBA second team All Star, a 514 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: perennial All Star with a lot of positives. Maybe you 515 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: remind people of that, maybe that stock goes higher. I 516 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: do think he needs to sort of disappear from an 517 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: elite playoff team. I think he needs to hit a 518 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: reset button so he can kind of play a game 519 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: without everybody analyzing everything he does. I think, well, I 520 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: think more than anything, he needs to not that I 521 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: buy into. Like players that post stuff on Instagram with 522 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: them working on stuff. I think that's a little that's 523 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: the new I don't know what that is, but's the 524 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: new goofy thing that players do. But I haven't heard 525 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: much about, you know, all these this work Ben Simmons 526 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: is doing on a shot and it's almost August Like, 527 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm just that's what we heard. I've worked on my 528 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: shot more this summer than Ben Simmons has, so I 529 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: can guarantee that, and my shot is already very good. Yeah, 530 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: well I've seen your shot. Yes, I'm aware it's it's 531 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: your strength. But I just I hope Ben Simmons is 532 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: doing some things because training camp is a month and 533 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: a half, two months away, and are we starting. We'll 534 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: be right back to where we started with Ben, because 535 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: that would be a nightmare for the Sixers. It's always 536 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Chris. Then, big deal last 537 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: night was Ricky Rubio is a new team. Yeah, I 538 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: think that's just fifth team. I think it's more than five. 539 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, all star teams. Well, I mean, 540 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: if if the Cavaliers make the playoffs this year, it's 541 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: not gonna because of Evan Mobley. It's not gonna because 542 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: of because of Colin Sexton. It's gonna because the reunion 543 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: between Ricky Rubio and Kevin Love propelled them into the postseason. 544 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: It was three years ago today, we gave you a 545 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: buzz cut. We changed your life with the haircut we 546 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: gave you and improved your social game dramatically. This there's 547 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: really nothing that can do that. Damn, I don't. Social 548 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: game is pretty low these days. I gotta tell you, 549 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Ricky Rubio, You're Ricky Rubio is something. You're the Ricky 550 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Rubio is a real thing. You're the Ricky Rubio of dating. 551 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: A lot of hype, not a lot of production, No, 552 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: no real all star appearances, no loyalty. That's team team. Yeah, 553 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I have loyalty. I will Ricky's loyal He just keeps 554 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: getting dumped like like I like you two frecked, have 555 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: a great weekend. You're too Dan see. But so Chris 556 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Mannox does he regret coming on every time he joins us. 557 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: It's like Charlie Brown and the football. Yeah, he comes on, 558 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: he has some fun, am I Lucy? Yeah? Because there's 559 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: like always one angle that we go after him for 560 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: that he didn't see coming. And there's no way that 561 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: he somehow saw Ricky Rubio being tied into his own 562 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: dating life. There's no way he saw that coming. But 563 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: he lost a bed and then we gave him a 564 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: buzz cut. But his hair was very uh, it was out. 565 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: It was like kind of a yeah, man, chi Chie, 566 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: it was mushroom clouded. Yeah, and we tightened up his 567 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: game and he stayed with him. Did hid What was 568 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: that bed that he lost? Do you guys remember mclemn? 569 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Was it Ricky Rubio related? It was something to do 570 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: with a team that would be in the NBA Finals 571 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: and they didn't make it. Kers not making the coming No, No, 572 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: that was the recent Remember he said they wouldn't make Yeah, 573 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: you said, yeah, more likely that they the Lakers wouldn't 574 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: make the playoffs the year they won the title. Yeah, 575 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: but I think that was after he had But yeah, 576 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: that didn't go well