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Speaker 2: fall in their season opener in Washington to the Commanders

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Speaker 2: twenty one to six. John Schmelk, Tiki Barber and Tiki

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Speaker 2: is Bob Popping. Carlbanks said during the broadcast, just way

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Speaker 2: too many plays, situations, scenarios in this game that had

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Speaker 2: to remind Giant fans a lot of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just felt inept at a lot of points in

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Speaker 3: this game. And we'll get to the defense at some point,

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Speaker 3: but offensively, this is where you have to start. We

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Speaker 3: went back and we talked about it at halftime. The

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Speaker 3: seven opportunities inside the ten yard line they've.

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Speaker 1: Resulted in just the field goal.

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Speaker 3: You didn't get any opportunities in the hands of your

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Speaker 3: biggest playmakers, obviously, that's Molik neighbors. Hell, you could say

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Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson with as well as he played in this game,

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Speaker 3: or Tyrone Tracy, and so that's got to be frustrating.

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Speaker 3: But as this game went on, it felt like there

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Speaker 3: was just a ton of angst in the operation of

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Speaker 3: how the Giants offense was going about its business. Part

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Speaker 3: of that was the play calling. Part of it was

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Speaker 3: the same old story that we've heard over and over

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Speaker 3: and over again, which is the offensive line can't seem

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Speaker 3: to be productive in any capacity that's protecting the quarterback

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Speaker 3: and certainly setting up the run game. I said at halftime,

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Speaker 3: this team has to stand for something, especially offensively, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about identity. I'm talking about what do

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Speaker 3: you stand for? And they don't seem committed to anything,

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Speaker 3: and you're never gonna win that way.

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Speaker 2: And tee y'all, I'll kind of put it this way.

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Speaker 2: What did this Giants offense do well today? They did

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Speaker 2: not run the ball well, They did not pass protect well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Russell Wilson was particularly sharp. Granted, a

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Speaker 2: lot of that did do with the circumcis answers around him.

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Speaker 2: They had drops from the wide receivers and the tight ends.

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Speaker 2: They did not do well in the red zone. I

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Speaker 2: can't point to a facet of their offense where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know what they did that really well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe some of the third downs, but

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Speaker 3: some of those were given to them.

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Speaker 1: And so this was an offense that we expected so

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Speaker 1: much more out of. By the way, take he four

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Speaker 3: So we expected from what the rhetoric was in the preseason,

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Speaker 3: what we saw in the preseason, what the reputation is

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Speaker 3: of Russell Wilson, some downfield opportunities, and when we did

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Speaker 3: get those downfield opportunities, they felt like lofted prayers, if

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Speaker 3: that makes sense. It was nothing was driven, nothing was

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Speaker 3: with purpose. It was let's I'm gonna throw this up

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Speaker 3: and hope the lak neighbors becomes a hero. It was

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Speaker 3: a one on one, let's give my guy a chance

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Speaker 3: to make one hundred percent. And you could see that

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Speaker 3: the commanders this game got on, especially in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Or just giving that to them, meaning go ahead, take

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that Russ could make that throw or

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Speaker 3: and it just it felt like they never had a

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Speaker 1: And I feel like part of that Tikki.

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Speaker 2: If you don't trust your line to protect, if you

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Speaker 2: only way you could really do it, because you can't

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Speaker 2: hold the ball back there and let it deep over route,

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Speaker 1: And again, the Giants down.

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Speaker 2: Two scores in the fourth court, Eventually you got to

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Speaker 2: start trying to make plays down the.

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Speaker 1: Field, right.

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Speaker 2: You have to get the ball out quick, and that's

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Speaker 1: Only way you can do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what became clear was that the commanders knew that

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Speaker 2: And the problem is that he's shorter and they were

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Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of faux pressure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the pressure was there just because they were around,

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Speaker 2: In the second half, I agree with and that's a

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Speaker 2: bad sign because it's too early in the season for

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Speaker 2: the quarterback to have lost faith and what they're doing

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Speaker 2: up front with those front five guys. All right, guys,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about the Giants defense. We are gonna

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Speaker 2: hear from Brian Dable, We are gonna hear from the

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Speaker 2: Giants players in the locker room, and eventually here locally.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls later on as well. Johnsh Milch,

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Speaker 2: We'll come back here from Brian Dable. That and a

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Speaker 2: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. Johnsh Milch, Tiki

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Speaker 2: Barber with you. The New York Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: Washington Command and there's twenty one to six no offensive touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: two field goal for the Giants. We mentioned in that

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Speaker 2: first segment, chance in goal to go situation seven plays from.

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Speaker 1: Starting at the ten yard line.

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Speaker 2: I think they got backed out to the twelve after

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Speaker 2: the first first and ten, But nevertheless seven first and

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Speaker 2: goal opportunities and the Giants came up empty and just

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Speaker 2: a not enough offensive way. But Tiki, I will tit

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Speaker 2: my cap to the defense a little bit and we'll

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Speaker 2: get to the bad stuff with the defense, trust me.

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Speaker 2: But the defense, I thought, after a pretty poor first

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Speaker 2: I thought the defense did play much better on half numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely did.

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Speaker 3: They held Washington to a couple of early three and

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Speaker 3: lot of plays where the Commanders led by Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 3: And been a forty point loss for the Giants with

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Speaker 2: Yeah first three drives of the second half five plays

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Speaker 2: defensively for the Giants, Tiky, I don't think the rush

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Speaker 2: the Commanders rushed for two hundred and twenty yards on

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was good. I'm not saying they

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Speaker 3: he just missed it today ninety eight point three passer

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Speaker 1: He's just hard to contain.

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Speaker 3: And even if they played as poorly as they did,

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Speaker 3: because let's face it, the Commanders played bad in this game.

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Speaker 3: This is not a beautiful win for the Commanders. They

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Speaker 3: consistently were behind the change. But as you heard Carl

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Speaker 3: So the difference that I felt with the Commanders and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the defense did get to Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 2: But again, when you're trailing fourteen to three and you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those strategic things that you have

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Speaker 3: because I'm playing men behind six guys or five or

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Speaker 3: especially early was Abdul Carter getting into the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 5: In times, we did some good things, but obviously not

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Speaker 5: enough offensively. Six points.

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Speaker 6: It's tough to win a game.

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Speaker 5: Didn't feel like we got into much of a rhythm,

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Speaker 5: particularly on early downs on the offensive side of it.

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Speaker 5: And then we left eleven points out there in the

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Speaker 5: red zone. So defensively, we battled, We hit a lot

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Speaker 6: They had the big one there at the end. But

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Speaker 5: Job on the offensive side of the football, players, coaches, everybody.

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Speaker 5: And then in the kicking game, I thought we did

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Speaker 5: some good things there, but and certainly not good enough.

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Speaker 5: Tough game, you know, good week we had, and you know,

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Speaker 9: That's all of us.

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Speaker 10: I did not in the second word, Bryan, why did

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Speaker 5: We I mean we didn't have We had three bad

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Speaker 6: But we gotta be better in the red zone.

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Speaker 5: That's why I liked it to go for three, to

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Speaker 5: Well, I say the big part was early downs, Paul throughout,

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Speaker 7: Why did you not consider it?

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Speaker 6: We can all do better.

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Speaker 10: You guys are trailing like that and giving up run

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Speaker 7: I think everybody know you guys want to rush the passer.

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Speaker 5: I thought they did a good job of affecting him. Uh,

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Speaker 5: I would just say, you know, team overall, team football, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, not not not good enough to help each side out.

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Speaker 7: The talk about esch different this year.

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Speaker 11: How do you here we go again?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a new season, but it does hurt. Dan.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got a good camp, felt good about

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Speaker 5: So we got to pick up, move on, learn from

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Speaker 5: it and obviously not good enough.

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Speaker 6: Get ready to play.

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Speaker 5: Dallas, you know who's had a little bit of a

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Speaker 6: And focus on that.

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Speaker 5: But focus on the things that we have to do

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Speaker 12: Frustration and the league kind of getting into it.

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Speaker 5: Leak and I, I mean we're two I would say

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Speaker 7: People.

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Speaker 9: Ah, and you know I want.

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Speaker 6: To give him the ball. That's that's all it is.

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Speaker 5: It's too competitive people, you know, understanding that you know

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Speaker 1: You you guys decided to use that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got one.

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Speaker 13: Was that something you guys knew around you know all

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I I think it depends on and I think

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Speaker 5: But he's somebody that you know, we like on that

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Speaker 14: Resorts before the game that you had package you know,

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Speaker 7: Then he said he didn't consider playing him. So is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Russ, I, like I told you guys before, Russ

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Speaker 6: Just overly overall not.

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Speaker 5: You know, no, there's not not good enough.

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Speaker 7: What was it to your decision? Like, how did you

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Speaker 5: I thought he earned it, thought Jackson earned it.

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Speaker 5: Look, we're we're gonna get home Pat, We're gonna look

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Speaker 15: How much did was and how much was it with

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think he had seventy yards and then we

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Speaker 6: You know, there were some.

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Speaker 5: Good things obviously not not good enough all the way around.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I did think we battled defensively. This is

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Speaker 5: So it's you know, again, it's a one score game there,

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Speaker 16: This is three straight openers, twelve total points and the

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Speaker 5: That No, I'm yeah, I'm focused on on this year.

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Speaker 6: Again. Just didn't do a good enough job. So two

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Speaker 7: Is it safe to send in Russell?

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Speaker 17: Still your starter?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we're we're just right here. After the game,

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Speaker 7: You're not answering this sounds like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's that we're talking about after every game. I

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Speaker 5: got confidence in Russ, so we're gonna go back. We'll

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Speaker 5: evaluate the tape. This name, this game isn't on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 5: It's not on Russell Wilson, that clear.

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Speaker 6: So I have confidence for us.

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Speaker 5: We gotta do a better job all the way around.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: That's Brian Dable at the podium again. The Giants fall

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Speaker 2: to the Commander's twenty one to six. We'll break that

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Speaker 18: Tracy's the light of Wilson in a shotgun set Wilson

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Speaker 7: Just threw it up.

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Speaker 1: That twenty one yard completion.

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Speaker 2: that field goal, didn't they get fourteen to six? Made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely did it in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately you have to settle for a field goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I though one the Robinson to play a nice game.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, he've had twelve targets on the day, only five

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Speaker 3: catches though for seventy one yards. So he didn't like

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Speaker 3: twelve though, did it didn't feel like twelve at all.

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Speaker 3: And when I think about it, I guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: have to go look at it again.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the podium. Russell Wilson's lay.

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Speaker 9: Close game.

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Speaker 19: The game is close all the wayut throughout the whole game. Really,

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Speaker 19: to be honest with you, but you know, I thought

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Speaker 19: our defense did a good job battling. I thought for us,

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Speaker 19: you know, when we get down the red zone balls

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Speaker 19: on the one two yard and line, we got a score.

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Speaker 6: They stopped us.

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Speaker 19: They played, well, we got back that down there again

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Speaker 19: and they stopped us again. So I think, I mean,

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Speaker 19: that changes the complexion of the game tremendously.

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Speaker 9: And that's just the reality of it.

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Speaker 7: You think you guys got to fancy.

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Speaker 10: I think you had that one series in the second

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Speaker 10: quarter where maybe threw six passes inside the eight and

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Speaker 10: only ran it once.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think one of the times we got the

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Speaker 19: wet there's a penalty, so you know, the kind of

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Speaker 19: new set of downs. But no, I mean I had

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Speaker 19: one dell on one I scrambled when he tried to make.

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Speaker 9: A you know, make a play, try to make a

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Speaker 9: good play. He was fourth down.

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Speaker 19: You know, guys were doing a good job scrambling, moving around,

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Speaker 19: and you know, we didn't get that one unfortunately, but

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Speaker 19: trying to get him the ball and you know, everybody

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Speaker 19: was just trying to make a play. I think also too,

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Speaker 19: I think that so that that could have been one

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Speaker 19: we had. They stopped us on a couple of the

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Speaker 19: runs that we had. It did a good job, you know,

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Speaker 19: And so once again, I keep it simple. I think

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Speaker 19: the biggest thing we got to do is score in

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Speaker 19: the red zone.

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Speaker 10: You're new year, but a lot of guys aren't. And

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Speaker 10: one is eight in the last nine years and struggling

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Speaker 10: tounchdowns is the last four years. How do you h

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Speaker 10: here we go again?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I just think focus on what we can do better.

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Speaker 19: You know, I think that we have a good team.

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Speaker 19: That's a good football team too. It was a close game.

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Speaker 19: Is fourteen to six the whole game, you know, and

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Speaker 19: they scored in the last few minutes there, but it

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Speaker 19: was you know, fourteen six. We really you know, should

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Speaker 19: have been you know, uh at least fourteen ten or

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Speaker 19: or you trying to get fourteen seventeen or something like that.

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Speaker 19: But you know, like I said, we you know, we

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Speaker 19: don't convert in the red zone.

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Speaker 9: That's what happens.

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Speaker 10: But you guys pulled some good, you know, really good

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Speaker 10: momentum in the you know, train.

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Speaker 7: To camp preseason obviously. So I mean, does today come

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Speaker 7: as a little bit of a shock to you guys?

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Speaker 9: I mean, and we knew we're gonna battle, knew it

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Speaker 9: was gonna be four quarter game.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 19: You know, you knew it was gonna come down, you know,

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Speaker 19: executing in the red zone. Like I said, they stopped us.

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Speaker 19: You know that first drive. They were physical, They made

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Speaker 19: some plays on us down there, and you.

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Speaker 9: Know, that's that's what they did.

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Speaker 19: You know, I think that the next time, you know,

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Speaker 19: we gotta we gotta next game, we gotta make touchdowns

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Speaker 19: down there.

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Speaker 9: That's just the name of the game in the red

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Speaker 9: zone there.

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Speaker 7: This morning, the Giants today.

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Speaker 10: But there's a Jackson's Dark package in the offense.

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Speaker 7: If you have to come out of the game for

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Speaker 7: jackson Door, how are you gonna handle that?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that wasn't necessarily the plan this week or anything

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Speaker 19: like that. I think the biggest thing is, just like

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Speaker 19: I said, all us together, all of us went in together,

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Speaker 19: all of us being successful together, all of us playing

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Speaker 19: clean football, you know, and and and find a way

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Speaker 19: to make plays.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think that's important if.

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Speaker 7: There's there any pressure on. I mean, you've been around

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Speaker 7: fourteen years.

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Speaker 8: Ow much pressure is what every just pressure you know

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Speaker 8: about Jackson Dark, Jackson dart Yell. Is there any either

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Speaker 8: pressure or just irritation about having to hear that or just.

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Speaker 19: Weight have to hear that like every week Now, I

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Speaker 19: just I just focus on what we can control.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 19: I thought we competed our butts off today and it

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Speaker 19: was a physical game.

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Speaker 9: I thought, you know, we left it all in the field.

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Speaker 19: We gave it are all physically, you know, you know,

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Speaker 19: just kind of you stand tall in the midst of

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Speaker 19: uh you know, midst of that game, just kind of

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Speaker 19: battling through it and trying to find a way to

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Speaker 19: make find a way to win.

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Speaker 9: And like I said, they stopped us in the red zone.

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Speaker 9: That's that's I think that was the name of this game.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 19: You know we had I think nine possessions eight eight

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Speaker 19: nine possessions. Two of them were down in the red zone.

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Speaker 19: We didn't capitalize on those. So that's that's what we

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Speaker 19: gotta do.

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Speaker 9: Thank you guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's Russell Wilson our player press conferences have brought to

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Speaker 2: you by MetLife, the official insurance company of the.

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Speaker 1: New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: All right, he let's kind of pull apart the pull

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson Jackson Dart thing. Brian Dable, being very clear

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Speaker 2: that he did not put this game on Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: said there was a whole lot more wrong with everything

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Speaker 2: happened today than the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Not on Russ.

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Speaker 3: He still has confidence in him when asked whether he

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Speaker 3: would be the starter next week, So I assume that

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Speaker 3: means he will be the starter next week. But this

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Speaker 3: goes back to something we visited at the very beginning

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Speaker 3: of our show at eleven o'clock, when people were intimating

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Speaker 3: that there was a quote unquote Jackson Dart package. I think,

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Speaker 3: of course, I mean, it's nonsense, it's smoking mirrors. It's

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Speaker 3: just something to make an imposing defense prepare. But it's

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Speaker 3: going to keep getting perpetuated because people have nothing else

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Speaker 3: to talk about when we have a bad offensive performance

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Speaker 3: like we just did, and so the Jackson Dart package

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Speaker 3: will become a story. But I think Daved, if you

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Speaker 3: listen carefully to what he has said, told you what

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Speaker 3: the Jackson Dart package is that is, if Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason has to leave the game, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say it gets knocked out or whatever, he

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Speaker 3: has to leave the game, you have to have something

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Speaker 3: that your second string quarterback is comfortable doing. And if

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Speaker 3: those first and second string quarterback players aren't the same,

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Speaker 3: like identical type skills, then you got to have a

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Speaker 3: package for the second guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw in the preseason how different it

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Speaker 1: looked when so, yes, is there a Jackson Dart package.

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Speaker 3: Of course there is in case he has to play,

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Speaker 3: but it is not to play instead of your starting

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Speaker 3: quarterback in Russell Wilson. And so I think Russ first

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Speaker 3: of all, Dave said it, and then you just heard

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Speaker 3: Russell say it. Yeah, that wasn't the plan. Uh, that

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Speaker 3: clarifies it. So enough with the Jackson Dart package.

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Speaker 2: So you think that was kind of give the command

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Speaker 2: or something to think about.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of those intentional leaks that media will

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Speaker 3: run with and there is no plan.

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Speaker 2: It just makes it feel like there's a plan. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's take a quick time out, we'll come back. Pete

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Speaker 2: Hoffman is in the locker room along with Paul Detinos

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Speaker 2: scouring getting us as much player audio as we can.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from them.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more analysis that and a whole lot more

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Speaker 2: when we return again. The Giants fall to the Commanders

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Speaker 2: in their season opener twenty one to six. More Giants

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Speaker 2: extra Point coming your way when we return. Right after

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Speaker 2: this short break.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 4: Radio network.

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Speaker 13: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 13: on the Fan WFAN and WFAN FM, New York.

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Speaker 18: First Chan the Giants forty eight.

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Speaker 1: Daniels takes the snap.

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Speaker 18: Gonna run, wrap by Burns and he's gonna get wrestled down.

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Speaker 8: Good job there by Brian Burns, got him wrapped up,

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Speaker 8: got him to.

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Speaker 18: The ground first and fifteen at the Giant thirty seven,

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Speaker 18: but Florence split wide to the last. Daniels in a

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Speaker 18: shotgun set Brown in motion off the right, Daniels back

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Speaker 18: to throw under pressure, sacked by Brian Burns.

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Speaker 2: And those were today's plays of the game, brought to

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Speaker 2: Ford Official truck and SUV of.

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Speaker 1: The New York Giants. Brian Burns good game out of him.

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Speaker 2: Had six tackles, two sacks, including those obviously with the two.

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Speaker 1: Tackles for loss.

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Speaker 2: Two of the three sacks with the Giants, they did

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Speaker 2: Tiky at the end of the game end up splitting

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Speaker 2: that third sack between Carter and Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which we expected would happen. So ab Dual Carter, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: you can go get a haircut this week.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 2: That did not take long, which is not surprising for

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Speaker 2: Abduke Carter to go get that haircut. But again, Tiki,

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Speaker 2: if people would have listened to Brian Burns on the

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Speaker 2: pregame show with me when he came on and he

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Speaker 2: mentioned it, I didn't even have to bring it up.

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Speaker 2: He talked about how important it was for a pass

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Speaker 2: rush to get a lead. And yes it was close.

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Speaker 2: It was fourteen to three at halftime, then fourteen or

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Speaker 2: six for a lot of the second half. But the

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Speaker 2: Commanders still felt like because of how well their defense

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Speaker 2: was playing against the Giants offense, they were never in

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Speaker 2: a position where they had to press offensively and go

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Speaker 2: into must pass situations and you know, protect with just

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Speaker 2: five guys and run a bunch of downfield routes.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were able to be in their comfort

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Speaker 1: zone for much of this game offensive one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were, and even when they were in the

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Speaker 3: first or second because of penalties and long situations. This

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Speaker 3: team is not one that's ever going to be dependent

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Speaker 3: talking about the Commanders now dependent upon throwing the ball

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Speaker 3: down field. They don't have to set up and look

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Speaker 3: for eighteen yard digs or comebacks or go routes because

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Speaker 3: their quarterback is so effective as that six skill position

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Speaker 3: player and you see them easily just go get half.

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Speaker 3: And it's probably an organizational or at least a team philosophy,

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Speaker 3: but Cliff Kingsbury, just go get half.

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Speaker 1: Let's get half.

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Speaker 3: As long as we're not in third down, go get half,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll figure out what on third or second down.

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Speaker 3: And so I feel like this team, the Giants didn't

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Speaker 3: have a lot of opportunities, but when they did have

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Speaker 3: those opportunities, they picked on Josh Cornery, the rookie right tackle.

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Speaker 3: I think all of the sacks came against him. I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure all of them. I think any of them

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Speaker 3: came on Laromie Tunsel. We know the one Brian Burns,

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Speaker 3: he just dipped under Connolly. He just wasn't used to

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Speaker 3: seeing a pass rush rush er be able to get

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Speaker 3: that low with that much speed.

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Speaker 2: That was split half and half. Obviously half of that

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Speaker 2: came from the other side, right, No, no, no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: talking about Thibodeau. I'm talking about oh just Burns. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Brian burn When he dipped under Connolly, it

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Speaker 2: was low angled pass rush.

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Speaker 3: He runs around it with speed and explosiveness and gets

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Speaker 3: to Jayden Daniels. And so when you have an opportunity

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Speaker 3: like that with a young offensive lineman, take advantage of it,

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Speaker 3: and you give credit to Brian Burns for doing that.

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Speaker 3: Dan Burns had said it to me, you know, talking

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Speaker 3: to him that, you know, if you would love to

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Speaker 3: get the one on ones against connor Ley again, who

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Speaker 3: I think is gonna be really good player. But he's

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Speaker 3: changing positions from college going against these pass rushers early.

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Speaker 1: That is a a really tough spot for him.

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Speaker 2: At Duke Carter spoke after the game, let's listen to him,

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Speaker 2: one of those giants pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: He was in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say about his first regular

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Speaker 2: season NFL game.

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Speaker 21: It was exciting. I just wish we got to win,

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Speaker 21: but it was fun. They're just taking taking one moment

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Speaker 21: at the time. My first NFL experience, but I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 6: Just you got to win that d end.

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Speaker 14: We've seen the team us in different places, but Punklock,

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Speaker 14: what was that like for you being used in that way?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, like I said, I do whatever my coaches asked

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Speaker 21: me to do, So whatever they need me, I line up,

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Speaker 21: I do it to the best of my ability.

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Speaker 5: I know how big of a play was that when

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Speaker 5: you brought Jamie now before the end of the half.

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Speaker 5: Did you feel like you can put them in a

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Speaker 5: situation and be able to right the situation again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what we always trying to do.

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Speaker 11: But I didn't get the win, so nothing of no matters.

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Speaker 22: Right after, how do you feel, like a few year

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Speaker 22: old like sort of give yourself with a quick instant

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Speaker 22: an evaluation like what did you think?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it don't really matter, like I said, like if

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Speaker 21: I played really good, I played really bad.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, that's all about the

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Speaker 7: names and win.

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Speaker 15: You've seen Jaydon Daniels on film and on TV, and

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Speaker 15: now you saw him on the field.

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Speaker 7: What was your sense of his speed and his playmaking.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, he is who he is. I don't I feel

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Speaker 21: like that. I don't really need to be explained. But

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Speaker 21: I also felt like we had opportunities in the game

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Speaker 21: that we didn't take advantage of.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, we got we gotta

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Speaker 6: win that game. How bad do loss his taste to you?

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Speaker 5: I mean, especially coming off last year, you're used to

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Speaker 5: a lot of winning.

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Speaker 21: That's all I care about. I don't care about how

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Speaker 21: I play, what I'm doing. As long as the team win.

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Speaker 21: That's that's all I care about.

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Speaker 15: Did do you feel you guys on defense ever, you know,

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Speaker 15: got them in a position where you can the whole

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Speaker 15: defense could consistently rush the passer.

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Speaker 11: You know, you never had a league and things like that.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think they had like fourteen points went into

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Speaker 21: the fourth.

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Speaker 6: It was one drop.

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Speaker 21: I feel like we could have got to stop I

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Speaker 21: think they scored at or to put a twenty one

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Speaker 21: and six. If we came up right there, we could

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Speaker 21: have put ourselves in a situation away.

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Speaker 23: Is that all the time you feel, because you obviously

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Speaker 23: you have you always been that.

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Speaker 7: Keep it private pretty much.

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Speaker 5: How did you feel you were utilized obviously what your

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Speaker 5: versatility has been.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I've been moving around all over the defenses my

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Speaker 21: freshman year in college, so I'm used to it.

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Speaker 6: At this point.

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Speaker 7: Have you blocked before, like a little bit in college.

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Speaker 21: I feel like I've played more pump block being in

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Speaker 21: the NFL now.

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Speaker 6: And how was that for you? I mean, obviously you

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Speaker 6: seem pretty natural just getting there.

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Speaker 7: Making plays out there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, football is football.

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Speaker 6: Whatever they asks me to do, I'm go out there

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Speaker 6: and do it.

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Speaker 11: Is that not athleticism? Position?

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Speaker 5: Or do you do you have some skill there to

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Speaker 5: know what you're trying to do in a pump block

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Speaker 5: is the.

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Speaker 21: Same as past rushing NFL everybody athletic is technique.

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Speaker 6: Knowing what you're doing, so so you you've put in

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Speaker 6: the time learn the technique.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's abdual quarter After the game, take what do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 2: I how they used them a lot of lining up

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Speaker 2: standing up behind the defensive line, some lining up straight

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Speaker 2: up on the defensive tackle, some spying.

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Speaker 1: How'd you think of the usage.

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, we hit this a little bit at halftime.

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Speaker 3: You see him lined up as a stand up linebacker

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Speaker 3: and he had approached and pressed the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 3: getting into the face of the guard or the center

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Speaker 3: to force that that offensive lineman to engage him, which

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Speaker 3: then clears up somebody else to be one on one

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Speaker 3: with one of the other offensive linemen. But mostly he

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Speaker 3: was dropping out to be a spy on Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 3: and he's super athletic. We also, we've seen this all

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Speaker 3: preseason and in training camp, so you knew that he'd

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Speaker 3: be able to hand out if he handle that if

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Speaker 3: he was being put.

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Speaker 1: In past covered situations.

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Speaker 3: But let me get to the punt block, because you

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Speaker 3: saw it at least three times, he was close two

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Speaker 3: other times and he blocked one. In your mind, think

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Speaker 3: about what it takes to be a great pass rusher.

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Speaker 3: We just talked about Brian Burns' sack on Josh Connery

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Speaker 3: where he just dipped down underneath pass, you know, speed,

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Speaker 3: rush up the field, got around the tackle and got

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Speaker 3: a sack on Jaden Daniels. It's the same thing for

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Speaker 3: an edge punt block rusher. It's this same type of technique.

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Speaker 3: So Abdul Carter, who is a college expert at this

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Speaker 3: and is hoping to become an NFL expert at this,

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Speaker 3: just employed that the punt block that he blocked. He

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Speaker 3: gets around the tight end by edge rushing like he's.

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Speaker 1: Going after a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Then yep, but instead of being six yards seven yards deep,

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Speaker 3: he's going fourteen yards deep. And he was able to

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Speaker 3: get his hand on that ball and block it, and

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Speaker 3: you know it resulted in a short punt for the

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Speaker 3: Giants to get.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good field position.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, this is his skill set, and give

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Speaker 3: credit to the Giants and their special teams for recognizing

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Speaker 3: that as a young, you know, agile athletic athlete, he

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Speaker 3: is going to be an asset on the edge of

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Speaker 3: punt block.

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Speaker 2: York Smoke Tiki Barber Giants Extra point Giants again fall

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Speaker 2: to the Commanders for twenty one to six. Pardon me,

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Speaker 2: I want to go through some of the early PFF

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Speaker 2: tracking numbers here on the pass rush Tiki. I think

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Speaker 2: it's interesting they wind up with the Giants again. This

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Speaker 2: is preliminary. These get update as you go along during

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Speaker 2: the week twenty seven pressure rate which is not great

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Speaker 2: but not terrible. Twelve pressures in the game, four sacks,

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Speaker 2: you know, because they count the two half sacks as

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Speaker 2: one sack. He ye, so really three sacks, no quarterback hits,

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Speaker 2: and eight hrries six times where they beat the defender

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Speaker 2: but did not impact the quarterback. Three pressures a piece

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Speaker 2: for Carter and Burns, two for Thibodeaux, and again just

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Speaker 2: one for Dexter Lawrence who had a pretty quiet game

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Speaker 2: both in the running pass game tea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Decks didn't play a lot in the preseason, so

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Speaker 3: he had, you know, a couple combined tackles three I

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Speaker 3: think on the on the day, and you know he's

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Speaker 3: going to get double team for a lot of this season.

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Speaker 3: As impactful and as all pro level that he's played

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Speaker 3: at in his early part of his career, you know

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Speaker 3: that he's going to be the focus for most teams offenses.

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Speaker 3: Then you saw that consistently this afternoon. I think as

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Speaker 3: time goes on and Brian Burns continues to excel like

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Speaker 3: he has, Abdul Carter becomes more of that that threat

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Speaker 3: and obviously keveon Thibeau as well. Then then ultimately Decks

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Speaker 3: will get freed up like you just you just won't

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Speaker 3: be You can't afford an extra guy on the on

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Speaker 3: the nose tackle or the three technique. And so I

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Speaker 3: feel like Decks, who didn't play a lot in the preseason,

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Speaker 3: is probably just getting his sea legs in this first game.

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Speaker 1: And with that being said, let's let's let's be real

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Speaker 1: about this.

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Speaker 3: It's one game, and this isn't Week ten and the

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Speaker 3: Giants have looked terrible for ten weeks. This is one

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Speaker 3: game with a lot of new pieces, particularly on the

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Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. Clearly there's new pieces on

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Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball because of the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: the most important position.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And while we can laud what happened in the preseason

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Speaker 3: where they scored one hundred and seven points in three games,

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Speaker 3: the regular season's a different animal. I said this the

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Speaker 3: entire preseason, you're getting basic coverages. You're getting covered two, three, four,

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Speaker 3: things that are easy to recognize and dissect. There is

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Speaker 3: no there's no manipulation of the mind pre or or

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Speaker 3: or the quarterback's mind before the snap. And that changes

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Speaker 3: when the regular season happens. So there's an adjustment period

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Speaker 3: that the Giants are necessarily going.

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Speaker 1: To go through. We just hope they get up to

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Speaker 1: speed faster than it felt like today. Yeah. Absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Dexter Lawrence in just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll hear from Dexter Lawrence. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: we'll hear from the other players in the locker room

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Dexter Lawrence in his first action in

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Speaker 2: Is Tiki mentioned addressed to media after the game, Let's

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00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: listen in.

888
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 7: Dex What did you think of the defensive performance? Uh?

889
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 11: Then we played well in the areas. You know, we

890
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 11: just gotta can we just gotta just tackle. I think

891
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 11: that's the biggest point. You know that we got him

892
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 11: in a lot of third and loans and you know,

893
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 11: you gotta contain. You know, we knew coming to wanted

894
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 11: to run the ball. We gotta do better than that. Uh,

895
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 11: they just played well and then you know, we gotta

896
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 11: do better and get ready.

897
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 10: Overall, it feels kind of like a similar script to

898
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 10: what we've seen before, where defense kind of plays well,

899
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 10: maybe some mistackles, offense struggles to get in the end zone.

900
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 10: I know with the fans, it's like, here we go again.

901
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: How do you avoid that in this locker round?

902
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 11: I mean, that's not a mindset.

903
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 20: You know.

904
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 11: We we we bleed together, you know, we we ride together.

905
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 11: And is it the game just didn't go our way

906
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 11: today and we gotta you know, get ready to play

907
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 11: Dallas and beat them. How did you feel the person

908
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 11: I'm playing?

909
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 12: Obviously in a long time.

910
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 11: I got on my floor a little bit, uh, you know,

911
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 11: second half a little more, but it wasn't good enough.

912
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 11: I gotta prepare to go to go be better next year,

913
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 11: next week. And I think that's the biggest thing. You know,

914
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 11: you gotta, you know, keep working on your improvement no

915
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 11: matter where you are in the stage of your career

916
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 11: or you know, at the game, or you know, if

917
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 11: you have a great game, you gotta keep improving. And

918
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 11: that's how you don't limit yourself. Were you on and

919
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 11: some sort of pitch count at any points set? Uh? No,

920
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 11: not necessary.

921
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 10: Every uh, every drive obviously it's different. But what happened

922
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 10: on that ninety five yard drive that that you you.

923
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 9: In the fourth quarter?

924
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: It was fourteen six?

925
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 10: If you hold them, get the ball back, maybe have

926
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 10: a chance.

927
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 7: What what do you see there?

928
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 10: Uh?

929
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 11: I gotta watch it take.

930
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 6: I don't know.

931
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 7: Next do I know that?

932
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 6: Uh?

933
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 24: Daniels is very slippery, So it's making very difficult to

934
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 24: gauge what your pass rush looks like today.

935
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 11: Uh, not necessarily. Oh, like you know when we when

936
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 11: we ra, when we t when we wrapped him up,

937
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 11: he we got him down.

938
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

939
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 11: You know, a lot of thing was just you know,

940
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 11: open gaps he found and ran through. So we just

941
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 11: gotta be better and cajun ru cage rushing and things

942
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 11: like that.

943
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 12: You said, there's not like a heavy go again attitude.

944
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 11: What is the the vibe here? Don't make it too

945
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 11: as simple as that. There's no no need for barra.

946
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 11: We got the players, you know, and we got each other.

947
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 20: In this over all.

948
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Right, I want to hit on two things out of

949
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: that teak.

950
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: The first one, what did you think of the plan

951
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: to contain Jaden Daniels on some of those scrambling opportunities.

952
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 3: Look, I think it's the right plan, and they tried

953
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: to do it. We briefly mentioned it early with Abdul

954
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: Carter k rushing, which is not getting too far upfield

955
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: and exposing gaps and allowing him to slip through. But

956
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: the best laid plans with quarterbacks like that often lead

957
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: to and I don't know, ineffectiveness.

958
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: He does that to everyone.

959
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: He does it to everybody. I mean, he rushed for

960
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: eight hundred and ninety one yards last year.

961
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

962
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: And it wasn't because they were running QB sweeps and

963
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: QB powers and things and options and things of that nature.

964
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: It was because he scrambles so effectively. Last year.

965
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: They weren't in a lot of you know situations where

966
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: he was just you know, dominating teams. It was him

967
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: making play because he's an athlete like that, it's natural,

968
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: it's instinctual for him. And then he combined that with

969
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: his ability to put balls on target. He gets really

970
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: hard to defend, no matter how you cut it, no

971
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: question about it.

972
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: The second point off of what Dexter said, I want

973
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: to bring up goes back to what you talked about

974
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: before we took our last break This is just one game,

975
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: and I understand it might give some Giant fans the

976
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: bad feelings.

977
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: And the hebgb's a little bit, and I get it.

978
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: We were sitting here having the same conversations, totally understand

979
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: but before the year, and we said this on our

980
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: preseason games, on our postgame shows. If you walk out

981
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: of these first two games winning one of those two,

982
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: you're feeling pretty good about yourself.

983
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: Right, play better every week? Correct, That's what it comes

984
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: down to. It's a journey, and it started the first one.

985
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: The first game is it's either going to go exactly

986
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: as you planned it and you win, or you're gonna lose,

987
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be every issue that's wrong that you

988
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: can think of. Even teams that are probably going to

989
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: be good this year lost in week one. And so

990
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: the question is to get to week two and be

991
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: better than you were in week one.

992
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: And if you.

993
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: See that, then you feel confident about yourself. But right now,

994
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: you can't put you can't you can't project that far ahead.

995
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: I mean, you're still six days away from your next

996
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: time putting on a uniform and doing this thing all

997
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: over again.

998
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome in Paul Datino.

999
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: He just got out of the locker room down in Landover,

1000
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: Maryland after the Giants again twenty one to six loss

1001
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: to the Commanders. Paul Theatino, I got to imagine that

1002
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: was a bit of a I'm almost blown a what's

1003
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: on your Paul?

1004
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: You got called for offensive holding there. I'm not sure

1005
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: what happened, but.

1006
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 20: As an awful lot of people believe it or not,

1007
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 20: outside the Giants bus, there's a lot of family and

1008
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 20: friends here and they're clogging up the roadway, so the

1009
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 20: police are having a hard time trying to contende.

1010
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: I see now, Paul, I just assume you got called

1011
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: from it for an un sportsman like conduct penalty sometime

1012
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: and during the postgame report, but I guess not.

1013
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: What was that postgame locker room like?

1014
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 20: It was tough, It was quiet, A lot of guys

1015
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 20: were were very somber in front of their lockers. But

1016
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 20: then the leaders who spoke basically echoed exactly what Tiki

1017
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 20: said moments ago before you brought me on, and I

1018
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 20: think that's what the Giants kind of have to lean on.

1019
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 20: We'll be talking about for weeks, if not months, about

1020
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 20: the leadership and the communication skills on this roster. Well,

1021
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 20: it's time for those leadership and communication skills to be

1022
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 20: put to the test because you get a mega disappointing

1023
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 20: game like this in game one, Yes, it's very easy

1024
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 20: for the emotions to breed out and to say woe

1025
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 20: is me, and oh, here we go again, and you

1026
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 20: know what, maybe we're not as good as we think

1027
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 20: we are. It's very easy to shake the confidence factor

1028
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 20: if you're not mentally tough. And the guys like Bruce Dexter,

1029
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 20: Lawrence Lak Neighbors. I just got done talking all of

1030
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 20: those guys, and they were very assertive in terms of, hey, yeah,

1031
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 20: it didn't go to where we wanted to do today.

1032
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 20: We got beat. We didn't do this, we didn't do that.

1033
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 20: But there's no way you can waiver here. And so

1034
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 20: those are the guys who have to lead the charge

1035
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 20: to keep that even keel mentality if this club is

1036
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 20: going to rebound against the Cowboys.

1037
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that you talked with the league, Neighbors,

1038
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: and we'll play the interview here in a little bit.

1039
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: But one of the things that we saw early in

1040
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: this game was some frustration that he seemed to be

1041
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: displaying on the sideline with Dave's you know, what was

1042
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: your take on that?

1043
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 20: Well, he's very competitive taking As you know, Ian Daves

1044
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 20: both are fiery personalities. Both of them desperately want things

1045
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 20: to go well, and they both are going to try

1046
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 20: their butts off to make sure that things are going

1047
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 20: in the proper direction. You'll hear Neighbors during the conversation

1048
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 20: actually answer a specific question about how him and Babel

1049
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 20: had an interaction. It's probably best you hear it directly

1050
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 20: from him rather than me paraphrase. But I don't get

1051
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 20: the sense that there's anything negative about it. In fact,

1052
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 20: I would say it's more of a positive for this team, Paul.

1053
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: Was there anything that this group was able to take

1054
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: out of the office in this game that went well

1055
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: that they can build on for next week?

1056
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 20: Quite honestly, John, I didn't really see it. I mean,

1057
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 20: you're talking about the combined first halfs of the last

1058
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 20: four Giant season openers. They've been outscored, what is it,

1059
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 20: sixty nine to six. I mean that's just not acceptable.

1060
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 20: And quite honestly, when they have five or six drop

1061
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 20: passes today, depending upon how hard you want to grade them,

1062
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 20: and you could talk about a little bit of a

1063
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 20: sloppy officiating if you'd like to, But what's the point

1064
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 20: in doing that when you didn't make enough praise on

1065
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 20: your own and the offensive line clearly did not. Must

1066
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 20: wish so much time. We talked there in the pregame

1067
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 20: show about how sometimes he owns the ball too long

1068
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 20: and take some sacks. Forget about holding the ball too long.

1069
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 20: You did have a chance to hold the ball at

1070
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 20: all by the time that pass rush was getting to them.

1071
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right about that.

1072
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: And one of the things that we saw early was

1073
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: Marcus bow being used as a wide receiver, then he

1074
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: was in as an extra aligneman, and.

1075
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Look, rookies are rookies.

1076
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I often have issues with them because they're just not

1077
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: used to regular season intensity and how fast the game happens.

1078
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: And he got beat and camp scattaboy gets stuffed in

1079
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: the in the in the for a negative one yard

1080
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: game when you're on the one yard line and it's

1081
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: set up a tough third down which they didn't convert.

1082
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: So I mean, evaluate some of the rookies that we

1083
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 3: saw outside of Abdul Carter, well, guys.

1084
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 20: Should be friends with you. I now am on on

1085
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 20: the jam Pat Bush and we're not the head out

1086
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 20: of here, so I gotta go and we will talk

1087
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 20: to you back in New York.

1088
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: Sounds good, Paul dots. Yeah.

1089
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to get Paulidatino in trouble for even

1090
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: that bus in front of that stadium for a little

1091
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: bit longer. So, uh, Paul, save travels. They're flying back today.

1092
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: There is no train. That was a natty giant's choice.

1093
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: That was something that kind of got dictated to them

1094
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: by the train folks. Uh, so they will find them.

1095
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: It's always nice to see. It was always nice to

1096
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: take the train.

1097
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: The train was nice, it was easy, it was comfortable,

1098
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: you get spread out right, you spread out. It was

1099
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: less jam packed than then airplane. And it's such a

1100
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: short flight it almost feels, I don't know.

1101
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: Like you just go right up and you go right down.

1102
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. But the train was always comfy, no question.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's think it one more time out. We'll

1104
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Speaker 2: come back and we'll hear from Elik Neighbors and wrap

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Speaker 2: things up on our network right after this the Giants again.

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Speaker 1: Fault of commander is twenty one to six. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants extra point on the Wfan Giants

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Speaker 4: Radio network.

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Speaker 25: This is Mylik Neighbors, and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 25: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFN and WFN FM.

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Speaker 2: the official five G network of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 2: Verizon America's most reliable network, the League.

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Speaker 1: Neighbors spoke after the game.

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Speaker 2: In this game today, Mylik Neighbors was targeted twelve times,

1117
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: called five passes for seventy one yards, including a long

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Speaker 2: of twenty five also at a twenty one yard grab.

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Speaker 2: We heard a little bit earlier in our pregame show.

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Speaker 2: He addressed the media after the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in.

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00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 25: We got to stay on the schedule, a lot of miscues, penalties,

1123
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 25: you know, stuff to bring us backsack. So we got

1124
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 25: all the line when we're out there on the field.

1125
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 25: It's eleven man football. We gotta all be on the

1126
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 25: same page when we wasn't today.

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00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 12: How did you did you feel like there was opportunities

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Speaker 12: for you to have been more of an in back

1129
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 12: make big plays today?

1130
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Speaker 1: I mean we did, I did what I could.

1131
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 25: I mean, we had some players drawn up defense, did

1132
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 25: a good job of just playing on the knee, playing

1133
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 25: over the top, doing a good job of switching the

1134
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 25: coverage up. So we try to get me in the

1135
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 25: in the game as much as possible, but you know,

1136
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 25: defensive scheme double.

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00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 26: When you were having an animated conversation with Brian on

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Speaker 26: the sideline, what was that about?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 25: I mean I said I was gonna speak up, you know,

1141
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 25: when it was time for me to speak up, But

1142
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 25: just trying to get guys going, trying to get everything going.

1143
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 25: I felt like we was, you know, lacking out there

1144
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 25: the injury. Energy wasn't right, So I took it upon

1145
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 25: myself to you know, try to boost people up. You know,

1146
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 25: it's too competitive, people going at it. So I mean,

1147
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 25: he wants to win. I wanna win. I feel like

1148
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 25: that's the reason he he got me over here, is

1149
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 25: cause how you know, me and him are just alike.

1150
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 25: So you know, it was two people just going at it.

1151
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 25: We're trying to get the same outcome.

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Speaker 6: So that was really all.

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00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 7: It's a week one. Why didn't the energy wouldn't be right?

1154
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 7: You think everyone us?

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Speaker 1: Not sure?

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00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 25: Not sure, but we'll we'll try to figure it out

1157
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 25: once we get back. Watch the film see we see

1158
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 25: what takeaways we take from that, see where we can

1159
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 25: get better at and try.

1160
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Speaker 11: To be better next time.

1161
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Speaker 6: We out how much.

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Speaker 25: I mean, nobody wants to lose. I mean you can

1163
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 25: always think about your losses, but you know they don't

1164
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 25: eat up them. It don't eat up on them in

1165
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 25: too long no more. I mean I learned to flush it.

1166
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Speaker 25: It is what it is leading to next week, can't.

1167
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Speaker 25: I can't carry this loss until next week, So I

1168
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Speaker 25: gotta move forward. The game is over, it's focused on Dallas.

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Speaker 7: How do you explain the rezone problems?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 25: Not really sure, you know, we just gotta gotta be

1172
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 25: it's gotta be more on the same page, gotta be

1173
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 25: gotta get you know, aligned right. It's a lot of

1174
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 25: things we just missed, missed up, you know, being a lot.

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Speaker 11: I'm right making.

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Speaker 25: Sure you know, we got the same play, making sure

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00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 25: the play call is right, making sure we call up

1178
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 25: play call to just you know, scheme everybody open. But

1179
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 25: you know, coach called what he called we got. We

1180
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 25: got to do our best to try to get open.

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Speaker 7: Separate.

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00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 26: There will be conversation outside here, talk radio and stuff

1183
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 26: that people will say quitting Jackson in will change things

1184
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 26: that will make the offense better.

1185
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Speaker 7: What do you make of back?

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Speaker 25: I mean, Russ did a great job of stripping about

1187
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 25: when he can. You know, there was doing a lot

1188
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 25: of good you know, pressures up the middle. Things outside

1189
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 25: of that, you know, we gotta be better as a

1190
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 25: whole offensive, trying to get you know, open with us.

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00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 25: You know, we had a lot of players that needed

1192
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 25: to be made, you know, myself included. So you know

1193
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 25: Russ is putting about some great spot. We just gotta

1194
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 25: come up with the catches. Gotta be open when he

1195
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 25: needs us to be open. And we took that as

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00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 25: a we take that as a whole offense. You know,

1197
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 25: we all got to be better as a whole. So

1198
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 25: there's no there's no change to you know, one person changed,

1199
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Speaker 25: ain't gonna do better. We still gotta all be better

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00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 25: for ourselves after the offseason.

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Speaker 22: If you know, optimism has guys, this was the offensive performance.

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Speaker 7: You put out there.

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Speaker 25: I was very surprised. I mean, I mean we all

1204
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 25: seen you know, preseason, you know how we was all

1205
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 25: out there having fun. How the offensers, you know, leading

1206
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 25: into the right direction. So you know, we gotta we

1207
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 25: gotta find that we gotta find that.

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Speaker 9: That rhythm again.

1209
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 25: Try to find that, you know, that ongoing pressure when

1210
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 25: we're out there, you know, putting pressure on the ball,

1211
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 25: you know, scoring points and getting the ball in playmaker's hands.

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Speaker 25: And try to be better when we're out there next time.

1213
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Speaker 7: Are you are you one hundred percent as your back healthy?

1214
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 7: They could be playing at full to pay.

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Speaker 1: I won't be answering that question, all right. I wanted

1216
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Speaker 1: to say a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Take he won, and for the folks that listened to

1218
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: all our post game solis last year, you can see

1219
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: the growth that Molakue.

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Speaker 1: Neighbors made from last year to this year. Just the

1221
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: way he handled some.

1222
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Of those tough questions, of course, and I thought he

1223
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: handled that extremely well.

1224
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 3: No, there's experience that comes from being in this league

1225
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: and dealing with the media, particularly in this town, and

1226
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna try to get you to say something that you

1227
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: shouldn't say, or give away and and intel that sheds

1228
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: lights on whatever inquiry they have.

1229
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: Or criticize the teammates or something like that.

1230
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Speaker 3: And he didn't do that, And he did a great

1231
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: job of answering those questions while still talking about the

1232
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: need to be better. And you know, the reality is

1233
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: you got to call it like you see it, and

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: the Giants weren't good enough today. I think to a man,

1235
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 3: all of the players that have got up to the podium,

1236
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: have been interviewed in the game, uh post, in the

1237
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: postgame locker room, have said that you got to be better,

1238
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 3: and they know that they got to be better.

1239
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: And can we make a rule going forward here? Can

1240
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: I have no more references to, well, the offense was

1241
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: good in the preseason. I don't want to hear that anymore. Irrelevant,

1242
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

1243
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: You're playing against guys that aren't going to be on

1244
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: the team, maybe on the practice squad. Uh, and the

1245
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: defenses were basic. It is, it is exactly what it is.

1246
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: You take no stock. It's why so many people are

1247
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: clamoring to get rid of that third preseason game, and some,

1248
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: including the league and probably some of the owners, want

1249
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 3: another regular season game instead of the preseason.

1250
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: So let's throw that away and let's not talk about

1251
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 2: that anymore, all right, Ticky, big game next week, going

1252
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: to Dallas, another division game. Obviously we have a lot

1253
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: of studying to do before we get there, but we

1254
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: already saw Dallas play on Thursday night, they lost the

1255
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: Eagles in a close game, a game they easily could

1256
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: have won if ceede Lamb doesn't drop multiple passes down

1257
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: the field in that game.

1258
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: What do you think that matchup's going to be like

1259
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: for the Giants.

1260
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 3: As good as the Cowboys were in the first half,

1262
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: they were equally as bad in the second half, and

1263
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 3: that includes a Miles Sanders fumble after a pretty lengthy drive.

1264
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: They were down on the inside the red zone and

1265
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: they coughed up the ball. They never got another opportunity

1266
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: to get in the scoring position again, and they basically

1267
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: only kicked the field goal the Eagles did in the

1268
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: second half after a twenty four to twenty victory. But

1269
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are in the process of getting

1270
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: back up to speed. With Dak Prescott as their starting quarterback.

1271
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: He was not special. He felt like it was he

1272
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: was going to be in the first half with the

1273
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: consistency of drives. It was touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field

1274
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: goal on those first four drives. But things things kind

1275
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: of stagnated. So it's a different test than what they

1276
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: had this weekend against the Commanders and Jadeen Daniels. Dak

1277
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: can run but he is not looking to run, and

1278
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: so this is going to be the opportunity.

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00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: I think that Giant fans.

1280
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: Are excited to see with the pass for us getting

1281
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 3: after a quarterback who's less mobile, and.

1282
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: You can give the type of airspace to Ceedee Lamb

1283
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: and George Pickens that we saw in some of the

1284
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: plays today.

1285
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: We saw one play we mentioned it earlier, Pulse on

1286
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: a Dbo just got beat on a double move by

1287
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin. He just stuttered a little bit and pulsing

1288
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 3: Debo broke on the ball had to try to recover.

1289
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: Luckily for him and for the Giants, Jayden Daniels overthrew

1290
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: that ball. But one thing that you can say about

1291
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: Dak is that he is accurate with the football. He

1292
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: has been one of the most consistent quarterbacks over the

1293
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 3: last couple of years, save for health.

1294
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been healthy. That's been his issue.

1295
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 3: And if he's healthy, he's making those type of throws

1296
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: and it could be dangerous. So the Giants got to

1297
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: tighten up a little bit. But I do think in

1298
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: the secondary. But I do think because the pass rush

1299
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: will be more effective next week than it was this week,

1300
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: that could balance itself.

1301
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 7: Out, all right.

1302
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: Please stick with us if you are listening on our

1303
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: local flagstip station, WFAN. But right now it is time

1304
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country on

1305
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: the Giants Radio Network.

1306
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: Our next broadcast.

1307
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: Will be next Sunday when the Giants take on the

1308
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: aforementioned Dallas Cowboys down in Texas. Our pregame show on

1309
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: the network will begetting new locally here at eleven. Thanks

1310
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 2: for listening to us today, and reminder the Giants they

1311
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: fall to the command. There's twenty one to six for

1312
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: covers at the Giants During the week, make sure you

1313
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: tune into the Giants YouTube channel, Giants dot com, the

1314
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: Giants app, and the Giants Podcast Network. Big Well kick

1315
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: Off Live comes your way every weekday at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you tune in and check it out. We'll

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00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: see you next week on the WFN Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: But we are not done right here on the Fan.

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Speaker 2: We got another hour or so to go. Tiki, Barbara

1320
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Speaker 2: and I will take your calls at eight eight eight

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00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: eight oh eight one zero one nine. Get on the horn.

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00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: We'll talk Giants football with you. We'll get more from

1323
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: the locker.

1324
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: Room as well, and continue breaking it all down when

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: we return. Right here on the fan.

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Speaker 16: This is Jermaine Leminor, and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 16: home with Big Blue the Fan WFAN in WFAN FM,

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00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 16: New York.

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Speaker 1: We welcome everyone listening to us on the fan.

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: The Yankees defeat the Blue Jays today, take that series

1331
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 2: two out of three.

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Speaker 1: Big win for the Yankees.

1333
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: And now we welcome everybody that's listening on WFAN AM

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: and FM right here on Giants extra point, Giants fall

1335
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: to the Commander's twenty one two six, John Schmelt, Tiki Barber,

1336
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: we are taking your calls at eight eight eight eight

1337
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: oh eight one zero one nine. All right, let's get

1338
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: to it. We're gonna leave things off with Matt and

1339
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Staten Island. Matt, what's going on?

1340
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 20: Man?

1341
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: How are you?

1342
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: Hey?

1343
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 20: What's going on? Gentlemen?

1344
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 17: Listen?

1345
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 27: All I want to say is, you know, I'm a

1346
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 27: pretty reasonable guy. You know I can take a lot,

1347
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 27: but I can't take much more of this, bro.

1348
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 28: I can't take much more of Russ coming out.

1349
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: The season just started, man, the season just started.

1350
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 27: Man, Dude, Tiki, I respect the dude. I'm a lifelong

1351
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 27: Giant fan. But listen, man, it's year after.

1352
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 20: Year all this.

1353
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 27: You know, the defense gets put out on the field.

1354
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 27: They got hung out to dry, all right, you know

1355
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 27: it's the defense down on the field.

1356
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 28: It's third and ten.

1357
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 27: Commanders get fourteen yards, Cowboys get fourteen yards. Hurt scrambles

1358
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 27: fourteen yards. They can't complete a pass. It's third and eleven. Man,

1359
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 27: they're throwing screens for Robinson.

1360
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: Now, look, the offense is frustrating. I get it.

1361
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: The Giants that f hat troubles scoring the last three seasons.

1362
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: They did not score a touchdown. Today they have six points.

1363
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: But I will say this, try not to put what

1364
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: happened the last two years on this group of players.

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a different construction. It's a young

1366
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: team too, by the way, and then and a lot

1367
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 3: of different capacities, even though some of them are veterans.

1368
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: And I think we talked about this earlier. How you know,

1369
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: you bring in the vet off his first year contract

1370
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: and he's a free agent, still hungry. Paul Sendadibo is

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: this way, Javon Hollins this way, and you hope that

1372
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: you get the best out of them as they're looking

1373
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 3: to make that.

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Speaker 1: Name for themselves.

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Speaker 3: But with that being said, there's still a lot new

1376
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: with this team, and it's one game. That's the only

1377
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: thing I can preach, and is we see multiple weeks

1378
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: of this. I'll start taking the calls on WFA in

1379
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: I'll start taking McCalls here on the post game about

1380
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: how frustrating and much of the same this feels like.

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00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: But I'm not ready to go there yet. Yeah, I mean,

1382
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can. It's one game. Let's see

1383
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: what they look against Dallas next week, see how that

1384
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: game goes. And then obviously you're home against the Chiefs,

1385
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: who already lost the game this year. I remember they

1386
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: lost a grand total of two regular season games last season.

1387
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Speaker 1: So the road isn't easy.

1388
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: But you got to come back and you have to

1389
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: play a better brand of football, especially offensively.

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Speaker 1: Next week. All right, let's go to Harvey and Dix Hills. Harvey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Harvey?

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Speaker 29: How are you all? I haven't spoke to you in

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 29: a while? Taking I know, man, you call them midday

1394
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 29: still right, and you know John is great, So it's

1395
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 29: a great show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks v.

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01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 29: You know, I looked at my calendar. It's said twenty

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 29: twenty four not twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Why is that, Harvey, I understand why you would have

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: some DejaVu.

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01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 29: It's the Deebo Samuel game. That's what this is.

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01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, he's he He was able to

1404
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: be utilized in a lot of different ways. That that

1405
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: last insult touchdown was frustrating too, because he didn't feel

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: like he was still the runner that he was when

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01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: he was in San Francisco. But he proved that he

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Speaker 3: can still do that.

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Speaker 29: But one thing I don't want to do. Everybody, you know,

1410
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Speaker 29: everybody in this radio station, who I wanted Jackson's art

1411
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 29: before the draft, way before the draft for many reasons.

1412
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 29: And I don't think losing is a temptation to put

1413
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 29: him in because I wouldn't put him in. I said,

1414
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 29: there's so many times until this offensive line is stabilized.

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 29: If I said to you, who's on this line, it's

1416
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 29: the same line as last year. You know, Thomas is out,

1417
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 29: he's had a Lyz Frank injury, foot injury. You got Runing,

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01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 29: you got Schmidt, you got you Lamar, and you got

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 29: van rodin right, same line, Yeah as last year. No

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Speaker 29: reason to expect to be different.

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Speaker 20: I hope.

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Speaker 29: Fold. On the other hand, you know when you have

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Speaker 29: a when you have a bad offensive line, or even

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 29: a less than a good average line, you know it

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 29: affects the quarterback's accuracy.

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Speaker 20: Russ.

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Speaker 29: I can't believe that Russell Wilson was that inaccurate. I

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 29: think the line has something to do with it and

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01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 29: affected them not being able to get into the end zone.

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Speaker 29: I'm in the red zone zones ridiculous, right.

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: They never ran, they never established the run. It just

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: felt inconsistent, thank you with the run game game plans,

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: so to speak. And you're right about the about Russell Wilson.

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: I felt he was affected by some of the pressure,

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01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: the quick pressure that was coming his way from throughout

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 3: this game, from really the very first possession, and so

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: he didn't feel like the rust we saw in the preseason.

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: He felt like the Russ.

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01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: Who who uh you know, felt lost behind an offensive

1440
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: line that he didn't necessarily trust.

1441
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, Paul made this point when we had

1442
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Speaker 2: him on. I mean again, PFF has their preliminary data out.

1443
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: His average time to throw in this game, takey was

1444
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: just two point seven to six sects.

1445
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: That's quick, that's low. That is not a high number.

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm just trying to think of the routes that

1447
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 3: take two point seven seconds. You can run slants, you

1448
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: can run a stick routes. You can run some quick

1449
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: benches out routes, but that's it. You run some hooks,

1450
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, get into the coral. But there's there's nothing

1451
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: really that you can do other than take a cursory

1452
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: look lofted up downfield, which by the way, we saw

1453
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: a lot of in the second half, or get to

1454
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: your check down, and we also saw.

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Speaker 1: That a lot.

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01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: All right, well, we're gonna get some quarterback calls. We're

1457
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: gonna go a little yin and yang here. We're gonna

1458
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: start off with Robbie and Lennox. Robbie, what's going on?

1459
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 23: Then, Hey, guys, what's going on? Thanks for taking the

1460
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 23: CALLI you know I used to talk to you and

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 23: BT when you guys were together. Buddy, Yeah, smokey, sir, John, Yeah, Josh,

1462
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 23: what's funny you and Mouse are doing the show for Moose.

1463
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 23: Text him this morning and I said, tom Boy, I

1464
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 23: feel old because Mark was on my radio show and

1465
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 23: I said, I used to stalk to smoke you when

1466
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 23: he was an intern and when I first started to

1467
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 23: call the station.

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01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: Baby you got it.

1469
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm saying Connor Green looks like he's twelve years old,

1470
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 23: so any maybe fourteen fourteen?

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Speaker 30: I had some guy.

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Speaker 23: Anyway, listen, you know, it's very frustrating when you have

1473
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 23: first down and goal at the eight and you decide

1474
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 23: to throw the ball. But the thing is they can't run.

1475
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 23: Here's my problem with dabl And and and specifically Kafka.

1476
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 23: It's it's look, there's problems with execution, there's drops. Okay,

1477
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 23: we understand, there's problem of the line. We have one

1478
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 23: of the best offensive linemen sitting on the sideline. We

1479
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 23: understand that it's not a complete team. It's a lot

1480
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 23: of young players. There's a learning curve there. I understand that, Tiki.

1481
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 23: But what bothers me so much about this team. It's,

1482
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 23: you know, Dabe reminds me of chasing Garrett. It's like,

1483
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 23: can you just keep it simple. You have a first

1484
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 23: down of goal at the two yard line, Your first

1485
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 23: down a goal to eight, run the ball, then see

1486
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 23: where you are. The problem is team is they don't

1487
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 23: persistently run the ball. As soon as they have problems

1488
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 23: giving up the run, they say, we're not going to

1489
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 23: run the ball anymore. Where was the screens today? How

1490
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 23: many times did they v to Johnson the tight end?

1491
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 23: All you dropped the couple? Certainly the first on would

1492
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 23: have been a touchdown. So it comes down to place.

1493
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 23: But my question for you is next week. Okay, here's

1494
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 23: my problem. I said this to Moose the other day.

1495
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 23: I've also talked to other hosts. I'm a fan about this.

1496
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 23: I don't like shame boat and why did they put

1497
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 23: this guy in from Tennessee to give me notice this?

1498
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 23: We're in a formation. They're always wait, they always earn

1499
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 23: a formation. And I mentioned this to a couple hosts

1500
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,479
Speaker 23: on a fan The linebackers always played back the last

1501
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 23: what's the last time that the Giants had a dominant

1502
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 23: all Pro linebacker? They never stopped the run. They don't

1503
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 23: they don't cut off the edge. And the problem is

1504
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 23: that the why does Boat and plays the linebackers so

1505
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 23: far back behind the defensive line so once they hit

1506
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 23: the defensive line there monitors are gone two hundred and

1507
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 23: twenty yards is unacceptable.

1508
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.

1509
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: Appreciate The reason you do that is so that they

1510
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: can scrape and get to the edges and when you

1511
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: have a mobile quarterback like Jayden Daniels, who might do

1512
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: that zone read offense.

1513
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: We didn't actually see it that much. I think twice maybe.

1514
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, where you running the zone read, you're faking the

1515
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: handoff interiorly and then depending on the linebacker's movement, you

1516
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: either keep it or you hand it off. We don't

1517
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: see a ton of that. But when you're playing a

1518
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: quarterback like that, you have to have depth because the

1519
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: last thing you want to do is get caught as

1520
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: a linebacker on the interior. When the quarterback decides to

1521
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: keep it and go to the edge, it gives you angles, right,

1522
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: It just gives you a better angle to potentially head

1523
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: him off at the pass. But I do understand what

1524
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: you're saying, and there were certain circumstances in this game.

1525
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: One in particular, I feel a second and fifteen, I believe,

1526
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: and Paul sinadiebo is lined nine to ten yards off

1527
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: the wide receiver Terry McLaurin, and it's just it's an

1528
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: easy pitch and catch for Jade Daniels. He does not

1529
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 3: even have to think about it. The ball hits his hands,

1530
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: it comes out of his hands, it's in the receiver's

1531
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 3: hands automatically nine yards and then he goes and gets

1532
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: two more yards. Instead of being potentially third and long

1533
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: or third and mean medium, it's third and short. And

1534
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: that's automatic for a team like the Commanders, who have

1535
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: so many different options on how to get two or

1536
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: three yards.

1537
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: And to Robbie's point, Tiki and Brian Dabele said this

1538
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: in his press conference as well, and I brought it

1539
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: up in our first segment.

1540
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: The quarterback.

1541
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: We talked about that in some of the issues Russell

1542
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: Wilson had. We talked about the pressure on him from

1543
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: the offensive line. We've talked a couple of times about

1544
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: the different drops we've had from the wide receiver.

1545
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: Right Theah Johnson had a bunch of they cannot run

1546
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: the ball on early downs either.

1547
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: They could not hang their hat on anything offensively in

1548
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: this game. And when that happens, that's how you get

1549
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: right no touchdown.

1550
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 20: Right.

1551
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: And this is that I said this multiple times at halftime.

1552
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: They need they need to stand for something. I'm not saying.

1553
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 3: Get this isn't our identity is going to be thirty

1554
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: carries a game and three yards in a cloud of

1555
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: dust and on fourth down or third down, we're two

1556
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: yards and we can make decisions on where they go.

1557
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that.

1558
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking about having a commit meant to getting the

1559
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: ball to your best players, and let's let's count them out.

1560
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: For everybody, who is the best offensive player on the

1561
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: Giants right now, myleak neighbors. Who's probably the second best

1562
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: offensive player on the Giants right now? I'm going to

1563
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: say Tyrone Tracy, and we didn't see enough commitment to

1564
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 3: getting him the ball. And there was a time in

1565
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: Giant history and going back obviously my era pre me,

1566
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: even actually right after me, where it was this player

1567
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: has to get this many touches. That's what we're going

1568
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: to stand for. And I don't know if the Giants

1569
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: have that kind of mentality. It's let's just find a

1570
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: play that we think is going to work, and when

1571
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, you're kind of lost in the ether.

1572
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: You don't know where to go when you don't have

1573
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 3: a purpose for what you're trying to get accomplished with

1574
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 3: an individual player each and every week.

1575
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to John and hazle it. John,

1576
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: what's going on? Then?

1577
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 20: Hey, what's up? Guys?

1578
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 14: So disappointing but you know, if you go on Twitter

1579
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 14: right now, it's stable needs to be fired. Why we

1580
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 14: are not starting Dark? I love Dart, can't wait for Dark,

1581
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 14: but he putting him in this game today, any confidence

1582
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 14: he would have had from the preseason would.

1583
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 31: Have been squashed.

1584
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 3: Great point would have been right, nothing would have been different.

1585
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1586
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 14: Now you're taking a kid who's who's young and was

1587
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 14: great during the preseason, but not perfect. And if you

1588
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 14: put him in that situation running for his life, is

1589
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 14: going to make mistakes that are just it's just gonna

1590
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 14: set him back.

1591
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 20: Right.

1592
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: There might have been multiple interceptions in this game. If

1593
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Dark is playing quarterback as opposed to Russ.

1594
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 14: Yes, because he would have forced the ball whereas Russ

1595
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 14: throws it away.

1596
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 31: Yes, simple stats.

1597
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 14: Did you think the old line played a little bit

1598
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 14: better in the second half? I thought, I thought, yeah,

1599
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 14: a little bit, there's a little bit more time.

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01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. But the problem, John, is that I

1601
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: need to see the run game.

1602
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: Like the run game is not a part of modern

1603
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: NFL football to an extent. Right, most people are leading, right,

1604
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 3: they're leading with the past game. And why the statistics

1605
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: tell you when you have twenty plus yard plays you're

1606
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: four times more likely to score. So you need to

1607
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 3: have an offense that's generated around creating big plays. But

1608
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 3: with that being said, you got to have some kind

1609
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 3: of run consistency otherwise, how are you getting big plays?

1610
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Right? Big plays come mostly in what play action? Right?

1611
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 6: We know it.

1612
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 3: You suck the linebackers or the or the second level

1613
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 3: the third levels to think their eyes into the backfield

1614
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: who's got that ball? And all of a sudden there's

1615
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: a wide receiver running by you. You get a deep

1616
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 3: ball thrower like Russell Wilson to throw it over the top.

1617
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: But when you don't have any commitment to the run,

1618
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: the first thing a defense, second and third level are

1619
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: going to do is step backwards and then there's nowhere

1620
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: to go with the football.

1621
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 2: And too often, John in this game, the Commander's defensive

1622
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: line was playing on the giant side of the line

1623
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. The guy in the backfield in the run

1624
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: game all game long?

1625
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 14: What'd you think of scat?

1626
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 7: Uh?

1627
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: He only had a couple of limited Yeah, there's a

1628
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: couple of limited samples.

1629
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: I did like the one the early Uh.

1630
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: They split him out to the riot as the technically

1631
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 3: the X wide receiver wasn't his real position, but you

1632
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean, they chucked in the ball out there.

1633
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: He made a couple guys miss, he trucked over another guy.

1634
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 3: He fights for the yards and it feels like there's

1635
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 3: a chance on any given play. And by the way,

1636
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: this is exactly how he was at Arizona, which is

1637
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: why it was fun to watch you a bowling ball,

1638
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean Arizona State, which is why it was fun

1639
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: to watch mid Arizona State because you didn't know when

1640
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: he was going to.

1641
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: Break a tackle and go forty yards or fifty yards.

1642
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: So I liked his debut in particularly, he had a

1643
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: pass pickup, a pass blocking pickup where he absolutely stoned

1644
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: the corner. I believe it's a blitzing corner coming into

1645
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: the into the sea gap, and you gotta be able

1646
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: to block in order to play running back in the NFL.

1647
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,360
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1656
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Speaker 2: a time out. We got a bunch of more calls

1657
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: in the line. We'll take those. I so think weave

1658
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: a couple interviews from the locker room. We got a

1659
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,599
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1660
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1663
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1664
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1665
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,200
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1666
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Speaker 2: just like this interview with Brian Burns, who spoke to

1673
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Speaker 2: the media after the game.

1674
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 24: As you come off to the field, what is maybe

1675
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 24: the thing that concerns you the most or the most

1676
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 24: disappointing thing about this game today?

1677
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 6: For you, most disappointing is really just not getting a

1678
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 6: job done.

1679
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 13: Felt like the whole game, it was just like right there,

1680
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 13: but just a little too far for our grass, Like

1681
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 13: I kept think we've kept him to fourteen basically the

1682
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 13: entire game to the middle of the fourth So I

1683
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 13: feel like it was a It was a game for

1684
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 13: the most part, but it just we couldn't get that

1685
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 13: at last extra push to you know, tie it up

1686
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 13: or either take the league.

1687
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 24: So you got to Daniels a few times. You in

1688
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 24: particular got to him twice. But yet he's so slippery

1689
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 24: he still winds up making some plays. How difficult is

1690
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 24: that to gauge in terms of your effectiveness versus his

1691
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 24: ability to be He's very slippery.

1692
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 13: You gotta be careful when you work, man, when you

1693
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 13: rush 'em. Uh yeah, I got to him twice. I

1694
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 13: should have should have been the third. But like you said,

1695
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 13: he's very slippery, very fast. Uh, he knows what he

1696
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 13: could do with his legs, So just gotta be aware

1697
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 13: of him and but still at the same time be

1698
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 13: aggresive while rushing him.

1699
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 6: But just make goodness business. I felt like we did

1700
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 6: that for the most part.

1701
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 13: He got out a couple of times, but you know

1702
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 13: that's just what's gonna happen.

1703
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 12: How much did you tryna throw a different book side

1704
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 12: of it seem like some nothing a dual spots, and

1705
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 12: that may bobus while you're just trying to give them

1706
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 12: different things to counter.

1707
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 6: Just keeping eyes on.

1708
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 13: Nothing nothing more, you know, complex than that, Just keeping

1709
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 13: eyes on cause we know what he can do to speak,

1710
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 13: you know, especially on the side that he can he

1711
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 13: can see his dominant side.

1712
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 6: You know, you wanna keep that that that like a

1713
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 6: wall so he doesn't just take the easy, the easy

1714
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 6: route to just run.

1715
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 13: But for the most part, I don't think he I

1716
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 13: don't know, Yeah I haven't watched the game, but I don't.

1717
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 6: Think he heard.

1718
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 13: It's too bad with his legs. But you know he

1719
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 13: is gonna make a couple of plays. Yeah, you know

1720
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 13: what I'm saying, he you guys that.

1721
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 10: Are frying the whole offseason, there were so much like

1722
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 10: a positive vibes.

1723
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 7: How much confidence in every much better when accounts the

1724
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 7: team ten years ortholy see feel white? Does it?

1725
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: Do you still feel like that?

1726
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 7: Or is there a light gun that said this was

1727
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 7: a very similar game in the last season.

1728
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, nah, my co My confidence isn't waving from one game.

1729
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 13: I still had a lot of confidence in this team. Uh,

1730
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 13: you know it's one game, not finna let that turn

1731
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 13: into two. So you know, wanna correct these make these

1732
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 13: corrections and get the dallas and uh you know even.

1733
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 15: I when it's playing, Yeah, it's probably I'm sorry. I'm

1734
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 15: sorry to dys now you good read. There was a

1735
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 15: lot of talk this summer about turning the right to

1736
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 15: rush the passer. One of the ways to do that

1737
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 15: is for your team to get a lead and force them.

1738
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 15: You know, obviously that didn't happen today.

1739
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: How difficult of.

1740
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 15: A challenge is that can and play the game more

1741
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 15: on their terms than your terms.

1742
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 6: It's hard, you know, it's hard.

1743
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 13: It's a job I signed up for, though, but you

1744
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 13: know it's it's hard when you can't really tell you

1745
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 13: can't really get a read on what they're gonna do next,

1746
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 13: you know, and and how difficult they run game is

1747
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 13: they they executed at a high level today.

1748
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 6: I feel like with their the blacking teams.

1749
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 13: But yeah, uh, you know, just gotta play the cards

1750
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 13: you dealt, you know. So that's what I tell my

1751
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 13: guys is remain relentless cause you never know when the

1752
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 13: opportunity is coming.

1753
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 12: And yeah, man, what it is the person you had

1754
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 12: all the in your pieces together, your ros, getting that

1755
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 12: to kind.

1756
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 7: Of alize kind of the good.

1757
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 6: That way in my room, Yeah, I felt like I

1758
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 6: went well. We we rotated pretty well. You know, they

1759
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 6: were doing a lot of temple uh tryna keep us

1760
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 6: on our toes.

1761
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 13: They weren't letting us up for awhile cause they I'm

1762
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 13: just sure they didn't want us to get our past

1763
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 13: rush uh personnel in. But we did a good job rotating,

1764
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 13: trying to keep fresh bodies out there because we know

1765
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 13: we gotta chase uh old boy ull day.

1766
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 6: So uh, I felt good about my room.

1767
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 22: I didn't get that for you to have to, you know,

1768
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 22: the second drive of the game, you guys, we're already

1769
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 22: in the middle of like a rotation experiment or a

1770
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 22: definite s sou.

1771
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 7: For you probably haven't done very often, like kind of.

1772
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 6: You know, can different tact for you, Yeah, I haven't.

1773
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 6: It is a little different for me, you know, uh,

1774
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 6: coming out of the game. But I feel like.

1775
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 7: It's necessarily at times.

1776
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 6: You know, you wanna keep re rush rushers out.

1777
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 13: There, you know, to to uh to keep an eye

1778
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 13: and and keep down Jade.

1779
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 6: So I'm all for the team, like I'm not Tina,

1780
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 6: you know, you know, be mighty, but for to stay

1781
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 6: in the game if it's a time they drive, you know,

1782
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 6: not like that.

1783
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 24: So uh, I feel like we good ran from two

1784
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 24: sides of the spectrum and just saw one of your

1785
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 24: linebackers mcshaden go down.

1786
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: How d how difficult was that?

1787
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 24: And then on the other side, Carter gets a partially

1788
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 24: block punt, which I'm sure the linebacker room probably likes.

1789
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, man, see Mike go down with bad that's a

1790
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 13: that's a tough loss.

1791
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 6: People don't know how how valuable he is to this defense.

1792
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 6: You know, he flies under the radar a lot.

1793
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 13: But Michael is a baller, So I just hope his

1794
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 13: injury isn't too serious. And then I was out happy

1795
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 13: five at uh at Dull getting that block plane, you know,

1796
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 13: that possibly change the game. You know, he's a gamer

1797
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 13: all the way, all the way around, from from defense

1798
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 13: to now special team.

1799
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 6: So I'm just excited to see what he can do

1800
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 6: for the rest of the season.

1801
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 22: I think you spend an offseason and out him pretty

1802
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 22: much all around here right in the summer. You guys

1803
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 22: have scored a ton of points in the preseason. What

1804
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 22: did you make of or how much did it take

1805
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 22: you to like shot that the offer? Sh and Russ

1806
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 22: kind of struggled the way they did in.

1807
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 6: The said, did it shock him?

1808
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1809
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 6: It did it?

1810
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 7: What did you make of him?

1811
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 20: In general?

1812
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 24: Not?

1813
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 7: Man, that's football.

1814
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 6: You know they had time to game plan and and

1815
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 6: and no you know Dan time.

1816
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 13: The study is and you know, developed their game plan

1817
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 13: and they executed better than us.

1818
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 6: We said to get ex to drumboard to be better initially.

1819
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 13: Now it's not really a shock to me because I've

1820
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 13: been in this league long enough to know how things

1821
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 13: go on. Then he getting Sunday, he could be forty

1822
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 13: two this week, seven next week. You never know, So

1823
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 13: I don't really play too much mind to it. Everyone

1824
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,879
Speaker 13: because his own week.

1825
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: That's Brian Burns after the game, and it's funny, teaky.

1826
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: He kind of echoed a lot of the stuff he

1827
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: told to me before the game, which I found funny

1828
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: because a lot of the stuff we talked about it

1829
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: ended up.

1830
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: Coming true over the course of this contest. Yeah. No,

1831
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: he is a He's a consummate professional.

1832
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 3: And one of the things he said in that locker

1833
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: room availability was about when he came off the field

1834
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 3: and had to get his ankle retape. Number you are

1835
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: watching in real time and like, oh, man, I hope

1836
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: he's not hurt, and you're like, oh no, he's just

1837
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: getting his ankle retape. And there wasn't that feel that

1838
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 3: he had to be out there. Because the Giants have

1839
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 3: so much depth on their defensive line right now in

1840
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: the past rush and you don't feel like if one

1841
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: guy goes down then you're severely compromised.

1842
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: On the second level. It's a little bit different.

1843
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 3: I think Micah man Fad, as he mentioned, is a

1844
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: big part of what this Giants defense wants to do

1845
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: wanted to.

1846
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: Do this year. We'll wait and judge ultimately what the

1847
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: injury was.

1848
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: It sounds like X rays were negative considering went off

1849
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: of an air cast and he was standing on the

1850
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: sideline later, I think that's a good negative.

1851
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: X rays don't really mean anything because the game day

1852
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 3: stadium x rays aren't. They don't always show the clear image.

1853
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: And it was weird an injury because he wasn't hit.

1854
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 3: It was non content. No one rolled him already. Now,

1855
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: maybe his ankle was twisted a little bit towards the outside,

1856
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 3: which made me immediately think it was a fibula issue.

1857
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: But we'll wait to be determined. We want to pass judgment.

1858
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: But Darius Muissau came in and he made some plays.

1859
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 3: But it's just the red react of Micah McFadden has

1860
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: been excellent and they're going to miss that if he's

1861
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 3: out for extended period of time. Yeah, luckily, you know

1862
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: other injuries for the Giants in this game from what

1863
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: we can tell, So we'll keep a track of that

1864
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 3: of course, all week for the Giants on Giants dot Com,

1865
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 3: the app, and all of our social media platforms. All right,

1866
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: let's go back to the calls at eight and eight

1867
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: eight A waight one zero one nine.

1868
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have.

1869
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: To deal with this guy during Big Blue Kickoff Live

1870
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: during the week this week. By the way, if you're

1871
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: a Giant fan, check out every weekday afternoon twelve thirty

1872
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: on the Giants app Giants YouTube channel.

1873
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: It's Wilson in Rocksbury.

1874
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just hand him right off the tiki barbar Wilson,

1875
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: what's going on?

1876
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: Man? How are you? Pal?

1877
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 30: Hey, Danny? Now, I'm gonna be nice you this week. Jenny.

1878
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 6: Listen.

1879
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 30: You don't know this, but Tiki, which I love and

1880
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 30: I love you. You know Tiki was a customer of

1881
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 30: mine for many years. You probably don't know this.

1882
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. We go way back, Johnny. We go way back, Danny,

1883
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: way back to my playing days.

1884
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 30: Yes, right, baby, that's right, going back into that. You

1885
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 30: know that that Mercedes Bands white coop you had, remember,

1886
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 30: that's right?

1887
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 3: Tell you you just remind me how old I am

1888
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 3: when I think about that my first car.

1889
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 2: Wait, Wilson, hold on, are you a Carl sale Are

1890
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: you a car salesman?

1891
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 23: No?

1892
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 21: Oh?

1893
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: Your detailer? Okay, got cha, I got cha, I got you.

1894
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 30: Danny. Listen, with all due respect, first thing I'm gonna

1895
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 30: say is I know Daniel Daniel Daniel Jones.

1896
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 23: Just call me man.

1897
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 30: He's having a beer laughing.

1898
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 20: Stop it, stop.

1899
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: It, I will get I Will Wilson loves Daniel Jones.

1900
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is two hundred and seventy yards and a

1901
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: touchdown and two rushing him.

1902
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 30: Dicky, Dicky, listen real quick. He broke he broke an

1903
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 30: NFL record. He's scoring every possession. Wow, So say one

1904
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 30: wearing some Super Bowl Stabbie mckinni is a pro bowler.

1905
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 30: Daniel Jones breast rectors and we we scored six points.

1906
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: He wrong the coach possessions and scored on every one

1907
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: of them.

1908
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 30: I'm gonna I'm gonna say something real quick. I know

1909
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 30: you guys don't like this, but I'm gonna say. All

1910
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 30: I'm gonna say is this, I don't believe in this coach.

1911
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 30: Johnny knows I don't. I don't believe this general manager

1912
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 30: and Jenny. But I'm not gonna say it anymore because hey,

1913
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 30: Jenny jam is gonna do what he's gotta do.

1914
01:20:59,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: Right.

1915
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 30: But we're looking Uh, if the Giants win against Dallas,

1916
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 30: I'll walk to California and back.

1917
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna take you a long time, bro.

1918
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 30: So So okay, So we're looking at and three, probably

1919
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 30: all in three, and the season being over before October.

1920
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 30: All I'm just gonna say is this, man, I've had enough.

1921
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 30: I've had enofl We have to do better, we have

1922
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 30: to improve. You know we're right there. Washington played this

1923
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 30: game team. You and I watched football for a long time.

1924
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 30: Washington played this week, this game like it was a

1925
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 30: Wednesday practice. They could have played for twenty hours and

1926
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 30: it was gonna be the same outcome.

1927
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 20: Right.

1928
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 30: They didn't.

1929
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't concerned. They weren't concerned about I weren't.

1930
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 30: Concerned whatsoever about that. I'm just gonna ask you and

1931
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 30: Johnny Thanks Giants fans, to serve better.

1932
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 26: Man.

1933
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 30: That's all I'm gonna say. I don't, I don't. I'm

1934
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 30: not gonna say anything about the head coach anymore or

1935
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 30: the general manager all day because this is Joe I

1936
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 30: heard all summer. This is Joe Shange Wester. I mean,

1937
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 30: for what I say all today, I think I think

1938
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 30: the worst ruster than the Giants is probably Carolina in.

1939
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 3: That day, Well, I don't, I mean Wilson. The only

1940
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 3: thing I'll push back is I think that the players

1941
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 3: on this team are their quality and and obviously the

1942
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: offensive line left a little bit to be desired today.

1943
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 3: And that's obviously without Andrew Thomas. But when you go

1944
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 3: look at the dexter Lawrence Is who's a Pro Bowl type,

1945
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: all probe type player, Bobby Okaraka, who was a really

1946
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 3: good player at a rough season a year ago. Uh,

1947
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: the edge rushers, the the guys that they brought in.

1948
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1949
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 3: Obviously Malik Neighbors is one of the best wide receivers

1950
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: in the game, just giving off his rookie season where

1951
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: he caught one hundred and nine passes. And and and

1952
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, you know, has had a history. Like the

1953
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: players are good, it's just the execution has not been

1954
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 3: anywhere close to where it needs to be. And then

1955
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 3: so that begs the question why why is all of

1956
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: the why do we have good players but nothing is

1957
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: seemingly coming together? I think this is just my opinion.

1958
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,440
Speaker 3: This is not me having an intel, and they're inside

1959
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 3: inside the Giants organization and their meeting rooms or their

1960
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: planning rooms or whatever it may be. But I do

1961
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: think at times there is a conflict in personality. So

1962
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 3: we know that Daves wants to be an explosive offense.

1963
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: It's why you go draft the Lakue neighbors. It's why

1964
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: you hang on to Bo Collins. It's why Jalen Hyatt,

1965
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: who didn't I don't think he've played in this game,

1966
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: makes this roster. It's because of the threat of the

1967
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: big plays. Why tryal and Tracy's so exciting. It's why

1968
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 3: you go sign Russell Wilson because it's what he does.

1969
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 3: If there's one thing that Russell Wilson in over the

1970
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 3: last three years has still done at a very high level,

1971
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: it's thrown the deep ball, and so you go get

1972
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 3: that guy.

1973
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: But then you.

1974
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 3: Contrast that with this. We cannot be turnover a turnover

1975
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 3: prone team. We cannot take those risks, and so it's

1976
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: two competing arguments. If you're gonna be the gunslinger, you're

1977
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 3: gonna put the vall in harm's way, but you better

1978
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: go do it if it's what your moo is supposed

1979
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: to be.

1980
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: And we'll see that next week with the Cowboys. That's

1981
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: what Dak Prescott does. He will exactly that's exactly what

1982
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: he does.

1983
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:22,919
Speaker 3: But the risk sometimes outweigh the the award the reward,

1984
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: and so.

1985
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Dak's gotten away with it.

1986
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 3: They get to the postseason, but sometimes sometimes sometimes they

1987
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 3: but when they get there and you're playing the better teams,

1988
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: those when the risk come to bite you.

1989
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: But I promise you to.

1990
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: A man, for a Giant fan, you would much rather

1991
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 3: have what the Giant with the Cowboys have created over

1992
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, which is we're really good,

1993
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: we take risk, and then we suck when we get

1994
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: to the postseason and the Cowboys, look, they have some

1995
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 3: questions in the secondary.

1996
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: Next week, they do not have an explosive pass rush.

1997
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: So you hope that you get more of those opportunities

1998
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: down the field next week. Justin and Dobbs Ferry, he's

1999
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: up next, Hey, Justin, Hey, Justin?

2000
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 31: What's going on? Just looking into this game? I was

2001
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 31: excited about Russell Wilson and say going down the field

2002
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 31: and making some make scoring some touchdowns. But you can't

2003
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 31: go opening game for the last three weeks scoring zero

2004
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 31: points against Dallas, six points last year and six points

2005
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 31: again here the command down and there's something. It's either

2006
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 31: Caska or Daviles. The offense is never ready to score.

2007
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 31: Put it in. How many chances did you have on

2008
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 31: the goal line? Seven times? They couldn't even move the

2009
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 31: ball yard right? Hey, Look it's like six weeks in.

2010
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, three three three specifically on the goal line befour

2011
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: or seven really in the in the tight red area.

2012
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look justin if you're going to be four

2013
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: of sixteen on third down and then all of two

2014
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: in the red zone scoring touchdowns, you're not going to

2015
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 2: win many football games.

2016
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 31: But the players don't even look like they're like gonna work, Like,

2017
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 31: could we just come up with a play that may

2018
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 31: like have a chance.

2019
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, proba these.

2020
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 31: Plays every time somebody else is on the goal line're like, okay,

2021
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 31: they're gonna walk in. We get to the goal line,

2022
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 31: they're running backwards right.

2023
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: It's it's the scheme. It's it's like, how do you

2024
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 3: scheme scheme success? And I think that's you know, you

2025
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: see some of the you know, better executing teams do

2026
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: things and it's like, man, they just scheme that thing

2027
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: wide open. I mean, that was the easiest throw you could.

2028
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: You could see the Giants looked hard today. It looked

2029
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 3: some of the players at the goal line, it looked

2030
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 3: like there it wasn't executed nearly how it was supposed to.

2031
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

2032
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: You can't say that they weren't trying to be creative.

2033
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: They tried to run a play for an eligible offensive

2034
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: tackle for a touchdown, so they're trying to be creative.

2035
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: The other play, it was the play I believe they

2036
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: faked the jet sweep left to Slayton. Where I was

2037
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: I think was Slayton going jet sweep left and then

2038
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: they tried to do a little rollout and hit Tracy,

2039
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: but there was some traffic. There was a lot of

2040
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: pressure over the right tackle right away. It wasn't clean

2041
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: execution class. It wasn't clean.

2042
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: It was mould. It was It looked ugly. It looked

2043
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 1: like and.

2044
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 3: I was trying to find the word to this, uh

2045
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: and when we first started the post game, what did

2046
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: this giant offense? What was the what was my feel

2047
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: like if I had to throw a word around it

2048
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 3: and I couldn't find it.

2049
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: And now now I think it's I got it. I

2050
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's a it's like it's just it's like.

2051
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 3: Angst, Like there's just like tension, like I know what

2052
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do, but it's not smooth enough for

2053
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 3: me to feel comfortable.

2054
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: It seemed very out of sync. Yes, absolutely it did.

2055
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: And so could that be because it's the first game

2056
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 3: of the season. Yep, absolutely, and so that's why I

2057
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: personally am not panicking yet.

2058
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: Will I, of course I will.

2059
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: You guys have heard me over the years on w

2060
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 3: f A N talking about how bad this team has

2061
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 3: been and how uncompetitive they've been in some of these years.

2062
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to go there yet, but trust me,

2063
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: I will if I need to to a.

2064
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: One zero, one nine. Let's go to Lawrence all the

2065
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: way down in Oklahoma City. Lawrence, what's going on? Man?

2066
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 28: Yeah, look at this was just another terrible, uninspiring game.

2067
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 28: And that's how I would describe the offense.

2068
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 31: Tiki.

2069
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 28: I know you had said that it would be good

2070
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 28: if the Giants had what the Cowboys had. I think

2071
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 28: I think at this point it would be good if

2072
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 28: we had what the Jets had, because at least, what

2073
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 28: do you know is one to use his acts. This

2074
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 28: coach should have been fired at the end of last season.

2075
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 28: The offense is terrible, and he wants to pass it

2076
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 28: off on oh on Caska or on making the plate.

2077
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 28: There's always an excuse, I sicke of excuses. The personnel

2078
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 28: is too good to have that type of blackluster performance.

2079
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 28: And it's another opening day without a touchdown, and we're

2080
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 28: in the in the red zone in five plays in

2081
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 28: a row, they give it to us. We can't move

2082
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 28: the ball five yards. New York Giants, Teaky, They could

2083
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 28: have put you in there, ran you five times and

2084
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 28: you would have.

2085
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 20: Gotten us the touchdown.

2086
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 14: This is disgusting, right, what.

2087
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 28: Am I even watching?

2088
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 14: The Lord's The only problem is toward two because we

2089
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 14: got the wrong coach.

2090
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I can't go there yet. I'm not

2091
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 3: going to go there. I'm not going to co sign.

2092
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 3: The only problem with me doing it is I would

2093
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 3: add two carries and I would have been done well.

2094
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: I was gonna say if if they were antique five times,

2095
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be alive Right now, the boat gave.

2096
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Shots, right, I am fifty. There's no chance I'm doing that.

2097
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: But he's got a valued valid uh gripe. I'm not

2098
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 3: saying he's correct. The gripe is there, and there needs

2099
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 3: to be more attention to the play. There needs to

2100
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: be better execution all those things. If we go and

2101
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 3: scream this, and let's just say that, the Giants and

2102
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 3: the team and the coach and the owner of the

2103
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 3: GM they're all listening.

2104
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna say no, you know what, of course they know. Yeah,

2105
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: I think what are we telling them? The gripe is

2106
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 2: that the offense has not been good enough. I know

2107
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: we've had a couple of calls about the first game

2108
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: of the season. Yeah, sure, great. They averaged sixteen and

2109
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: fifteen points per game over the last two years. That

2110
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: is not enough. The offense has to be better. One

2111
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: year Brian Deble called the plays, the other year. This

2112
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: year now Mike Kafka's called the play, So that has

2113
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: changed as well. And I think the key, and you

2114
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: made this point, is to figure out why. Like I

2115
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 2: talk to people in the offseason about the Giants what

2116
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 2: they should do in the draft. And you know, I

2117
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 2: talked to guys like Todd mcshaye, people with the former GMS,

2118
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: guys that have been in the league that are widely respected.

2119
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: They all love Brian Dables an offensive coach. Of course,

2120
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: he is so widely respected around the league in terms

2121
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: of what he knows and puts out, how he puts

2122
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: together on offense. But look, has it worked the last

2123
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: couple of years.

2124
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: No, it is not.

2125
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 3: No, And so that comes down I think to what

2126
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: happens on Sundays it's the you can be the best coach,

2127
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 3: but if guys aren't executing a way that it's supposed

2128
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: to be, things are not going to be pretty.

2129
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: And it was not pretty today. Let's go to AVI

2130
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: and Nutley. Avi, what's going on?

2131
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 1: Hey?

2132
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 32: Hey, what to do?

2133
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 6: What to do?

2134
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 32: With people thinking?

2135
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 30: John?

2136
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 11: How you doing?

2137
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Listen?

2138
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 32: It's just like like earlier Colors was saying about, you know,

2139
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 32: the game is obviously disappointing. You know, obviously, you know,

2140
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 32: we see the difference between the preseason and the regular season,

2141
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 32: and we also knew that once At was not going

2142
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 32: to play, the offensive line must struggle.

2143
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 14: And it did.

2144
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 32: My question was, is that if you see that, you know,

2145
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,440
Speaker 32: it seems like to me that the offensive line struggling

2146
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 32: is from the centers in the guards most of the time, right,

2147
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 32: And when it comes to like yeah, exactly, so it's like,

2148
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 32: why is it that it seemed like they were just

2149
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 32: determined to try to run up the gut like right

2150
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 32: between the center and the guards sometimes and then when

2151
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 32: I'm moving instead of just creating some type of you know,

2152
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 32: soone plays or maybe jet suites or something different, so

2153
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 32: that will kind of like you know, bother me a

2154
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 32: little bit.

2155
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, look, so, so what's become and

2156
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, AV and that there used to be a

2157
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 3: lot of creativity in the run game.

2158
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean there you know.

2159
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 3: It was it was traps, it was it was counters,

2160
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 3: it was gap schemes, it was all these different ways

2161
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 3: to create space for the running back in the interior

2162
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 3: of an offensive line. But what we've kind of defaulted

2163
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: to because it's it's easier to teach, is double teams.

2164
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,560
Speaker 3: And so so you're running, yeah, you're running these duos

2165
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 3: or or or or sometimes maybe you run a split zone,

2166
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: and so it because it's come down to basically duos

2167
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: or zone blocking. And the problem the problem with zone

2168
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 3: blocking AV and you know this because you because I

2169
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: can I can tell your football IQ here, is that

2170
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: if you if you're running on an angle and you're

2171
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: not controlling that point of attack, your three yards in

2172
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 3: the backfield.

2173
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, so and so that zone run is dead

2174
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: before it ever gets a chance to get started.

2175
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 32: And when my other part was on the defense, right,

2176
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 32: it's like I get it.

2177
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 6: Listen.

2178
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 32: I felt like at times, especially on long yard situations,

2179
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 32: they were running trying to run like the Nascar, you know,

2180
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 32: only a front men rush and you see that the

2181
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 32: pat the linebacker. Somebody said it earlier. They were so

2182
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 32: backed off that, in my opinion, Dyleen Daniels could just

2183
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 32: see that they're not coming in, They're not trying to

2184
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 32: this guy say. They just felt like another top of

2185
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 32: defense and just you know, let the front front get

2186
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 32: to the quarterback. And with Dylan Daniels back there, he

2187
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 32: only got to just you know, buy time and get

2188
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 32: somebody open. Yeah, but me, in my opinion, it was like,

2189
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 32: if you're going to try to do that, at least

2190
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 32: kind of disguise it a little bit more. You know,

2191
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 32: you have a second in nineteen, try to bring more pressure,

2192
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 32: trying to make sure that Daniels get the ball off,

2193
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 32: you know quick. So like that, you know, you don't

2194
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 32: have to don't give them time.

2195
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 3: In other words, yeah, you know, look, I hear you,

2196
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 3: and I think maybe next time around they play the commanders,

2197
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 3: that might be the switch up forget trying to contain.

2198
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: Let's just put pressure on him and force him to

2199
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: make a decision and make a quick decision. Get the

2200
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 3: ball out of your hands. Be ready for that quick decision.

2201
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 3: But it's a damned if you do, you damned if

2202
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 3: you don't. Because with a quarterback like Jayden Daniels, and

2203
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 3: we've talked about this running efficiency when he has one

2204
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: hundred plus yard passer rating, he didn't quite have one

2205
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: hundred passer rating today. It was ninety eight point three,

2206
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: So as damn closed, he actually missed some throws. He

2207
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 3: usually doesn't one hundred percent, But he is on par

2208
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: with what Lamar Jackson has done in his MVP seasons,

2209
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 3: which is be an elite runner while also being a

2210
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 3: pretty good passer.

2211
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: So what's gonna kill you? Right? Are you gonna let

2212
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: his legs hear you?

2213
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Or are you gonna let his accuracy and throwing the

2214
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 3: ball to Terry McLaurin in this case, Deebo, Samuel or

2215
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 3: zach Ertz, whoever it may be, be the thing that

2216
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 3: runs you down. So it just it gets really hard

2217
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 3: to make that decision. They probably should go the next,

2218
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 3: to the other, the other right, the other route the

2219
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 3: next time they played Jayden Daniels because this one didn't

2220
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 3: work very effectively.

2221
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 2: Remember he was the best quarterback in the entire league

2222
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: against the Blitz last year, one hundred best in the league,

2223
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns one rookie and over twelve hundred passing yards

2224
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: against the Blitz last year, most of the national and

2225
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 2: not not among rookies, among all quarterbacks, most passing yards

2226
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 2: against the Botz last year.

2227
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: So impressive.

2228
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you can tell maybe throw some more simulated

2229
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: Blitzer at him, you know, rush for you know, show

2230
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: one drop back, try to mess up their protection.

2231
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: But all that. But here's the thing. Ultimately, if you

2232
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: do that and you're not actually.

2233
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: Getting home not correct, what's he He's the same stand there,

2234
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: He's gonna You're gonna have the exact same.

2235
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Issue, absolutely, one hundred percent. Tony's in Delaware, Tony, what's

2236
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 2: going on?

2237
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Tony?

2238
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 29: Yeah?

2239
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,879
Speaker 33: I went to the game and it was just discussed

2240
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 33: in watching out secondary three yards off.

2241
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 20: Of every every receiver.

2242
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 33: Uh, Tiky said, your fifty zachy eight.

2243
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 20: Secondary.

2244
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Only thirty eight, only thirty right.

2245
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: I almost played with him.

2246
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 33: Yeah, and then well another thing that was sickening. I mean,

2247
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 33: if Russell Wilson is going to perform like that, you

2248
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 33: you and car were stolen his virtues on your show

2249
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 33: on Friday. I mean, if he's gonna play like that,

2250
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 33: put in dark because what is Darth seeing except crap

2251
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 33: football being played.

2252
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was less about that, I think.

2253
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 3: I think with Russ Tony it was more about leadership

2254
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: and being in those moments before and not being overwhelmed

2255
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 3: by the emotion of being in an NFL game. Jackson

2256
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 3: Dart might be that a little bit. Whenever he gets

2257
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: his his obvious first shot at the playing in this league,

2258
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 3: you can imagine how intense the energy is gonna feel

2259
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 3: inside of him. And so I think when we talk

2260
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: about Russell Wilson giving the Giants the best chance to win,

2261
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 3: it's because he's not panicked by the chaos. He's not

2262
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 3: panicked by the positivity or the negativity. But I think

2263
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 3: what we saw a little bit of today and it's

2264
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 3: worth the discussion, is does he still have the ability

2265
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: to make those plays?

2266
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: Right? We saw a bunch of them just lofted, fade routes.

2267
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2268
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 3: It was I'm this is a prayer and I'm hoping

2269
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 3: that the elite neighbors comes down with it. Now, maybe

2270
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 3: when Russ sees those and he talks about them with

2271
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 3: the media, he'll say, oh, yeah, that was intentional, right,

2272
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 3: I threw that back shoulder short because Milik Neighbors hadn't

2273
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 3: got on top of that cornerback, so I knew I

2274
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 3: couldn't throw it over top of him. But then you

2275
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 3: see a point where Milik Neighbors is over top of

2276
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 3: the dB and he throws it short and it's broken

2277
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 3: up right, So hey, there is a There is still

2278
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 3: a question mark that is gonna circle Russ until he

2279
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 3: has a couple of really big games in a row,

2280
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 3: and that is do you still have it? And it's

2281
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 3: a fair He's thirty seven years old. It's a fair argument.

2282
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 3: He's had interesting stints. Pittsburgh was okay, just above five hundred.

2283
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 3: I would say Denver was not okay, and it got benched.

2284
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 3: When it's on Peyton era, it was a disaster. In

2285
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 3: the Nate Hackett era.

2286
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Who is Russell Wilson?

2287
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: And it's still only one game, but it's still a

2288
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 3: question that we have to figure out on Sundays. We

2289
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 3: know who he is in the locker room, we know

2290
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: how important he has been to this team as a

2291
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 3: leader in the positivity that everybody talks about. But all

2292
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 3: of that means nothing if you don't do it on

2293
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 3: Sundays period.

2294
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 2: The rubber hits the road when the pads and the

2295
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: helmet goes on and you have to take snaps and

2296
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 2: try to score some points. Final caller of the program

2297
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: is Anthony in Bridgewater.

2298
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Anthony, what's going on?

2299
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 20: What's up? Guys?

2300
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 17: Thanks taking my calls up. Listen, I don't want to

2301
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 17: end the call on on Debbie Downer.

2302
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: Here, Anthony, go ahead, it's all I know.

2303
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Three, let's go.

2304
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 17: I'm a mess fan.

2305
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't sorry, he loves again.

2306
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 30: But listen.

2307
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 31: Here, here's the thing.

2308
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 17: I understand what you guys say about Wilson, but to me,

2309
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 17: this is not just about this year. This is the

2310
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 17: past few years. And to be quite honest, I thought

2311
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 17: the Giants defense was great today. I mean, I know

2312
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 17: there was some miscues and stuff, but to stop a

2313
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 17: team like that, who have some explosive players to fourteen

2314
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 17: points midway through the fourth quarter, do you better score

2315
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 17: more than two field goals?

2316
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: Now?

2317
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 17: I just thought the plays, that there were plays out

2318
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 17: there that Wilson missed, and I think that's what we

2319
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 17: have to judge him on. We can't judge that the

2320
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 17: line stunk, because the line's gonna stick for whoever's back there.

2321
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 17: But I just thought he missed it. He missed the

2322
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 17: wide open guy in the end zone, he missed neighbors

2323
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 17: down the sidelines. Those are the plays you have to

2324
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 17: hit to.

2325
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 20: Win these games right now.

2326
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right.

2327
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 3: There was one where he just he bailed a bit

2328
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 3: too quickly on a Jackson was a It was a

2329
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 3: elite neighbors go route. He got hung up just a

2330
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: little bit, my laigue neighbors did. But ultimately he came free.

2331
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 3: But by the time he came free, Russell was out

2332
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 3: of it, right, he had already committed to not, you know,

2333
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 3: keeping his eyes downfield.

2334
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 17: Let me ask you this, Tiki, because obviously, you know

2335
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 17: football billion times one of the main taking dart out

2336
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 17: of this Do the Giants have any shot to win

2337
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 17: it instant? Playing this game today?

2338
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:07,480
Speaker 2: A man, I mean, you don't know how many interceptions

2339
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:08,440
Speaker 2: he throws.

2340
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 3: Ask him, look, would it have been more entertaining? The

2341
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: answer is absolutely yes.

2342
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: Well, Jameis Winston makes everything more entertaining.

2343
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 3: Because Jamis is gonna stand in the pocket and he's

2344
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna believe that whatever he sees or thinks

2345
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 3: is gonna happen downfield is going to happen, and he's

2346
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 3: gonna let it fly and and some of those are

2347
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 3: gonna be completed, and Malie Nighbors is probably gonna have

2348
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty yards and then touchdown. But you

2349
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 3: might have gotten four interceptions. So I will say this,

2350
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: it would have been more entertaining. But we're not talking

2351
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 3: about entertaining. We're talking about wins and losses.

2352
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 2: And that's why I want to kind of to end

2353
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: her tiki and people, you know, we've gotten a bunch

2354
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: of calls. People think Darchie gets slid in there already.

2355
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: You need to do right now what's best for the

2356
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 2: team to a try to win games, but you're also

2357
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: trying to do what's best for the young quarterbacks development.

2358
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: And if you put a young quarterback in a bad

2359
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: situation too early in his career, it can have long

2360
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 2: lasting negative effects on the player. So I think you

2361
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: have to be very careful in terms of how you

2362
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 2: go about that. Your timing has to be good.

2363
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

2364
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: You have to be put into a good situation if

2365
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 2: you're a young quarterback. And I forget what Coler was,

2366
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 2: I think was John and Haslt earlier made the point

2367
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 2: you slide Jackson Dart into the situation today where you're

2368
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 2: in a million, third and ten pluses.

2369
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: You're not running the ball well.

2370
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: Your offensive line, especially in the first half, have free

2371
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: runners in the backfield left and right. I don't think

2372
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: that's going well for Jackson Dart. No, and that's what

2373
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 2: Dabel said. Look, this is not on Russ, the stuff

2374
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 2: going on around him and not Russ wasn't perfect. He

2375
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,480
Speaker 2: had problems too, but the stuff going on around.

2376
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Him was the bigger issue here.

2377
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's so many hypothetics hypotheticals that we can

2378
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 3: play out here. Yeah, and you say, well, if Jackson

2379
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 3: Dart was in this game, what would have happened? So

2380
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 3: let's talk about it. When Jackson Dart and it's got

2381
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 3: scrabbled and Russ started runn then Jackson Dart would have

2382
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 3: gotten thirty yards on that run instead of getting eight

2383
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 3: yards or whatever it may have been. Or Jackson Dart

2384
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 3: because he's a taller quarterback and maybe not going to

2385
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 3: be panicked by some of the pressure that he feels

2386
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 3: around him. It's not actually getting close him, but he

2387
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 3: feels around him. He stays in the pocket and he

2388
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: makes a throwdown feel but on those same tokens, he

2389
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: could have made a bad decision because he did feel

2390
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: the pressure and through an interception that gets returned for

2391
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 3: a time held the ball and it got stripped, or

2392
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: held the ball and had a strip sack. As the

2393
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 3: biggest problem for young quarterbacks in the NFL is actually

2394
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 3: not interceptions, it's fumbles.

2395
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Old miss was one of the most talented teams in

2396
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 2: the SEC last year. Do you think he ever in

2397
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 2: a game felt that much consistent pressure like the way

2398
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson did today.

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Speaker 3: No chance, no chense And so it's nice to imagine

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01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 3: what would have happened, or I think, more appropriately Giant

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01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: fans would say, I'd rather have imagined what that would

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01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 3: have happened as a post to what we saw with Russ,

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01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 3: and so it's unfair to Russ. I think Daves interestingly

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01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 3: didn't squash the question about who was going to be

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01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 3: the quarterback. We know that it's going to be Russell Wilson.

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01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 3: He talked about evaluating, we're gonna watch the film. He

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01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 3: did not blame Russell Wilson, but he didn't squash it

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01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 3: at all, and maybe he should have.

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01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: And he said that we have a lot of confidence

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01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 2: in Russ going forward, and he's the starter, but again

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01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: he would not do a concrete commitment to who the

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01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: starting quarterback was next week. All right, one more time out,

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01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:36,839
Speaker 2: we'll come back, do a quick look ahead the Dallas,

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01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 2: and then we'll say goodbye right here on Giants extra

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01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 2: point Giants fault to the Commanders twenty one to six.

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01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: Will be right back wrapping things up here on Giants

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01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 2: extra point Giants fall to the Commander's twenty one to

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01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: six tiki. We talked about this before the year. Two

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01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 2: huge divisional games to start the season. It's Dallas next week.

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01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't remember the last time the Giants played the

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01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 2: Cowboys at one o'clock on a Sunday, and it's almost

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01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: always a four to twenty five game. As it happens

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01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs played the Eagles at four twenty five.

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01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 2: That's the four to twenty five game next week.

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01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 1: The national game.

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01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 3: Or at least there's no hole still in that stadium

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01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 3: down there, so you get the natural heat in the

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01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: early September sun might at least be cool temperature control.

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01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, my guess is that the roof will be

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01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: closed for that game, depending on the temperature down there

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01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: in Dallas.

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01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: But Tiki, we did this a little bit earlier.

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01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: But the Cowboys come into this game obviously they have

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01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 2: a new head coach and Brian Schoanheimer. They have a

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01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 2: new offensive defensive coinators Matt Eberflus, the former Bears head

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01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: coaches now they're DC. They lost to the Eagles twenty

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01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: four to twenty.

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01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 1: Right was the final, twenty four to twenty.

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01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 3: They did not score point in the second half after

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01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 3: having four successive scoring drives in the first half, and at.

2441
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb a bunch of drops.

2442
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 2: They did not pressure the quarterback a ton with no

2443
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 2: more Micah Parsons. They have some injuries in the secondary.

2444
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 2: So what are you looking at next week and some

2445
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 2: of the keys for you as you get as you

2446
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 2: start to prepare for the Giants and Cowboys next week.

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01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so as I'd look at this game and it's

2448
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 3: and again I haven't done nearly the study on it

2449
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 3: that I need to. But what I do know is

2450
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: that execution is going to be of paramount and point importance.

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01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get as much upfront pressure

2452
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 3: next next week as he did this week from the

2453
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 3: Commanders and I think more importantly, the secondary can be

2454
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 3: had and some elite neighbors I will be targeted often

2455
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 3: just like he was today.

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01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: But they need to be a.

2457
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 3: Lot more efficient than they were today getting the ball

2458
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 3: to their playmakers. That includes Tyrone Tracy, who I mentioned

2459
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: earlier as well. The playmakers have to be in position

2460
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 3: to make plays. You have to trust them otherwise, what

2461
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,640
Speaker 3: the heck are we doing? And City Lamb's going to

2462
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 3: be kind of ticked off heading into that game. Oh ceedee,

2463
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 3: Lamb is is he might need to have a safety

2464
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 3: over top of him on every play, type of type

2465
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 3: of type.

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01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 2: And if you do that and that, this is this

2467
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: is the that to me is the biggest danger of

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01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 2: the Cowboys offense, not just Citie Lamb. But if you

2469
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 2: do that, George Pickens can kill you. Yeah, he can't.

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01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 2: George Pickens is he is.

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01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: He is the not the X factor, it's the wrong word.

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01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: He is.

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01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 3: He's the wild card, so to speak, because in some

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01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 3: ways he could be the game changer for the Cowboys,

2475
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 3: or he could be a net negative for the Cowboys.

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01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: It's to be determined. To tell me, He's Jameis Winston

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01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:10,520
Speaker 1: for them is basically.

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01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 3: What's not even that, it's just it's just it's more

2479
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 3: of his his his his his his impact on the

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01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 3: locker room, right, like what coats, what we heard from

2481
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 3: his days in Pittsburgh. But he is a potentially unbelievably

2482
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 3: great receiver.

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01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: He is. So we'll see what the Giants do again.

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01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: Pregame coverage will be right here on the fan with

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Speaker 2: Tiky and I at eleven a m.

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Speaker 1: Next Sunday, Giants.

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Speaker 1: always the pleasure. We'll talk to you next week. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: it was a fun one despite the loss. Absolutely all right.

2497
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Speaker 2: For continuing coverage of the Giants, make sure you go

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Speaker 2: entire crew, including Connor Green, who does the yeoman's work

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Speaker 2: running the show back here in the studio. He might

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Speaker 2: look twelve, but he works as well as a fourteen

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Speaker 2: ye old.

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic. We will see you next.

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Speaker 2: Time, Giants Extra point everybody, what's coming to next?

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Speaker 1: Connor? Grid Iron Game Day coming your way

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Speaker 2: Next right here on the fans Stay tuned, everybody, We'll

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Speaker 2: see you next week.