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Speaker 1: Mets Up? Listeners back here for episode number seventy nine

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Speaker 1: without further ado, let's bring in James for a quick

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Speaker 1: intro here because I'm just so excited to actually talk

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Speaker 1: about real baseball for what feels like the first time

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Speaker 1: in years.

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Speaker 2: Me too, Man, it's been a very long time since

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Speaker 2: we've talked to you listeners out there. A lot has happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's played three actual baseball games, like three real ones

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Speaker 2: and one fake one.

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Speaker 1: One fake one, and like the notes page is filled

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Speaker 1: with like Tyler McGill tidbits, Dom Smith tidbits. This is

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Speaker 1: stuff that we haven't been able to talk about in

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Speaker 1: so long. It's so nice that we have spring training

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Speaker 1: back in real baseball.

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Speaker 2: That first peruse on the Baseball Savant game day board

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Speaker 1: Fancy do I find myself looking at probable starters down

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Speaker 1: the line for who's pitching today against the Marlins? Oh,

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Speaker 1: shures are okay, awesome, Like I'm looking at probable starters,

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Speaker 1: looking at box scores, Like you said the Baseball Savant

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Speaker 1: stats highlights, highlights on Twitter clips, It's an incredible time

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Speaker 1: to be a baseball fan, something I didn't think we

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're shockingly what eighteen days right now from opening day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little over two weeks April seventh, of course,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to start pitching because that is where,

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Speaker 1: Now McGill in that role is going to fit perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's aggressive, he's not afraid of anybody in

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Speaker 1: It's really good because this is something that me and

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Speaker 1: Up podcast, something that we love that the Rays do

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Speaker 1: I tend to believe whatever Max Scherzer thinks is right

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Speaker 2: And that was today. Just was fun today. Just seeing

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Speaker 2: Nolan Ranado and Paul Goldschmidt the second he's hitting a

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Speaker 2: mound after an eight month layoffs? Like why can't he

438
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Speaker 2: face like Lars Newbar and Juan Yepez.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you why, because he's he's technically

440
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Speaker 1: probably on the forty man, or he is on the

441
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Speaker 1: forty man and he's like, I want to get my

442
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Speaker 1: golf clubs and head out when I'm done. I don't

443
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Speaker 1: want to stick around for two and a half hours

444
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Speaker 1: to pitch the eighth and the ninth didding.

445
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Speaker 2: And I guess that's interesting just thinking about organizational dynamics,

446
00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 2: because Peterson is that first round pick who rows through

447
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,280
Speaker 2: the system relatively quickly, and the fact that he has

448
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,520
Speaker 2: gotten to the major leagues with the speed he has

449
00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,840
Speaker 2: that is a win for the organization. Like I'll say that, sure,

450
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Speaker 2: But McGill is like kind of the grinder, he's a scrapper,

451
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Speaker 2: and maybe we should like him in the underdog role

452
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Speaker 2: more so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And

454
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Speaker 1: I also wanted to quickly mention another picture that the

455
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Speaker 1: Mets had guy that we saw in the Fall League.

456
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Speaker 1: Colin Holderman, made an appearance today. Three strikeouts granted against

457
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Speaker 1: the Marlins and the ninth inning or eighth inning or

458
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Speaker 1: whatever it was. So everything's with a green of salt,

459
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Speaker 1: but that's the competition he's probably gonna be facing in

460
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Speaker 1: the minors. That's the similar lineup, and he kind of

461
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,679
Speaker 1: diced him and he's got some good stuff. Someone who

462
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Speaker 1: I want every Met fan to keep an eye out for,

463
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Speaker 1: not necessarily as the starter of the future, but a

464
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Speaker 1: guy who maybe if there's some injuries in the bullpen,

465
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Speaker 1: as we always know that happens, a guy could get

466
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Speaker 1: called up and actually has legit stuff because he touches

467
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Speaker 1: like ninety eight ninety nine I think with the fastball.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He did sit ninety nine nine today,

469
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Speaker 2: and that's are gonna need to pull probably a couple

470
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Speaker 2: of lavers out of their assets here, like every team

471
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Speaker 2: will and over the course of a major league season,

472
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Speaker 2: and if Olderman starts the year in the upper miners.

473
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Speaker 2: There's no stopping Hi from getting to the majors, yep.

474
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Speaker 1: So just some quick pitching stuff to talk about their big,

475
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Speaker 1: big notes though, Tyler McGill and of course our boy

476
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,359
Speaker 1: Jose Budo looking very very sharp. All great positive signs

477
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Speaker 1: for the Mets going into the regular season and going

478
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Speaker 1: into the rest of the spring training because we still have,

479
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Speaker 1: like you said, eighteen days left.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even though the first game has been played. I

481
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Speaker 2: just want to get in the fast tracking, get right

482
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Speaker 2: to the fucking season.

483
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Speaker 1: I know. I'm so excited, Like we're talking about Tyler

484
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Speaker 1: or McGill in a stretch row and I can't wait

485
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 1: to see it on like a Thursday afternoon game where

486
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Speaker 1: he comes in and pitches three innings and then all

487
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Speaker 1: of a sudden it's May Lugo Das game over.

488
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Speaker 2: Fuck. I'm so excited. Oh god, I just I can't

489
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Speaker 2: even believe've gotten to this point when baseball I was

490
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Speaker 2: so scared about baseball. I was sad for a while,

491
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Speaker 2: and even feels like we haven't even spoken that much,

492
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Speaker 2: like since all this stuff has gotten crazy because we're

493
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Speaker 2: still doing the once a week and it's just like

494
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Speaker 2: there's so much shit.

495
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Speaker 1: I know, Like I was like, man, it almost feels

496
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Speaker 1: like a week off in between episodes is like too

497
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Speaker 1: long because there's so much stuff happening. Maybe now a

498
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Speaker 1: spring training games go, we'll see and see if we

499
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Speaker 1: can sprinkle in a couple episodes here and there. Of course,

500
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Speaker 1: we're still gonna do the multi episodes a week when

501
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Speaker 1: the regular season comes around, because a ton more to

502
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Speaker 1: talk about. But spring training, I think, especially with a

503
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Speaker 1: huge lack of baseball that we had for the one

504
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Speaker 1: hundred days, it feels more exciting and more important than

505
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Speaker 1: it ever has. And maybe that's also a little bit

506
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Speaker 1: of a curse too, because at the end of the day,

507
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Speaker 1: it is spring training and everything has to be taken

508
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Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. I like to think of

509
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Speaker 1: spring training as when positive things happen, applaud them when

510
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Speaker 1: bad things happen. Say, at spring training.

511
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Speaker 2: Remember last year in Lindor hit what like six home

512
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Speaker 2: runs in the spring. Yeah, that feels like a long

513
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Speaker 2: time ago.

514
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Speaker 1: It feels like a really long time ago. And let's

515
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the hitting, because the hitting is as

516
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Speaker 1: good as we felt about the pitching. The hitting's a

517
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Speaker 1: little scary, but let's start off with the positive. Let's

518
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Speaker 1: start off with the positive, and that's Dom Smith who

519
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 1: might be back. And we found out some really really

520
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Speaker 1: key information which gives a ton of insight, and it

521
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Speaker 1: makes so much sense as to why he was such

522
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Speaker 1: ass last year.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the fact that he played all

524
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Speaker 2: last season with a partially torn labram in his shoulder,

525
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Speaker 2: on top of a bum rist he had for most

526
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Speaker 2: of the year, and a groin injury he said he

527
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Speaker 2: picked up in the second half. So Dom basically played

528
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Speaker 2: the entire season last year at not one hundred percent,

529
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Speaker 2: which he did say that that's not an excuse and

530
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Speaker 2: I really should have played better. But it does make

531
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Speaker 2: a lot of sense to the fact that we've seen

532
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Speaker 2: basically three different Dominic Smiths over the last three Major

533
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Speaker 2: League baseball seasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, think about all the complaints we

535
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Speaker 1: had last year or all the critiques it was that

536
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Speaker 1: Dom's just not really hitting the ball with there's nothing

537
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Speaker 1: really behind it, like he hits it as just a

538
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Speaker 1: weak pop up again, and even some of his pitch selection,

539
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Speaker 1: which let you talk about because you read the article

540
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Speaker 1: and everything, but even his pitch selection was a little

541
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Speaker 1: bit off, And now it makes a little bit of sense,

542
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Speaker 1: because I mean, playing with a partially torn labram as

543
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Speaker 1: a hitter has to be extremely difficult, and it makes

544
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Speaker 1: sense why the power seemed to just be zapped away.

545
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Speaker 1: I know we also lost the bouncy baseballs, but Dom

546
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Speaker 1: still hit well in twenty twenty, like it just kind

547
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Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere.

548
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Speaker 2: Very well in twenty twenty. He was on the best

549
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Speaker 2: hitters in the midjor leagues in twenty twenty, and you

550
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Speaker 2: looked at the side by side of his swings and

551
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Speaker 2: you saw that he was following through with two hands

552
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Speaker 2: last year separately from one and one and being in

553
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty when he was hitting the ball harder. I

554
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Speaker 2: don't exactly know the physics of hitting enough to know

555
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Speaker 2: why that would make him hit the ball less, but

556
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Speaker 2: I just do know that when you're hits not swinging

557
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Speaker 2: the way you normally swing, you seem to be uncomfortable.

558
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Speaker 2: And it was clear Dom Smith was uncomfortable, and specifically

559
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Speaker 2: he said that all this lack of comfort led to

560
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Speaker 2: his horrible pitch selection. We talked a lot last year

561
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Speaker 2: about the run value for his pitches in the heart

562
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Speaker 2: of the zone and that he was one of the

563
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Speaker 2: worst hitters in all of baseball for pitches in the

564
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Speaker 2: heart of the zone, which is not the place you're

565
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Speaker 2: going to be if you're ever going to be a

566
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Speaker 2: good hitter. And he said, really once he lost the

567
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Speaker 2: labrum and the strength in his bottom arm, when he

568
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Speaker 2: was losing power, where he felt like he had to

569
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Speaker 2: sell out more for more powerful swings, similar to like

570
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Speaker 2: MLB the show eight years ago, when he's be able

571
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Speaker 2: to hit the power swing and there's less of a

572
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Speaker 2: chance you made contact with a square button. But when

573
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Speaker 2: that happened, he starts just kind of sell out for

574
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Speaker 2: power and had to start a swing earlier. That was

575
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Speaker 2: because it says grind was an issue. He had trouble

576
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Speaker 2: igniting his lower half when he would swing, so he

577
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Speaker 2: would basically just play the guessing game. Thought he had

578
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Speaker 2: a pitch wherever it could be, take a monster hack

579
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Speaker 2: at it. When it hit, it hit, but a lot

580
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Speaker 2: of times it didn't, and that's why he sucks so bad.

581
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Speaker 2: So we're hoping that maybe this year Don can get

582
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Speaker 2: back to, you know, sitting back the way he used

583
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Speaker 2: to and reacting recognizing pitches, because that's why twenty season,

584
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Speaker 2: he was a monster against breaking balls, one of the

585
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Speaker 2: best players in baseball against breaking balls. So we hope

586
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Speaker 2: that that Dom Smith can't come back.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had like more doubles in the short twenty

588
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Speaker 1: twenty season, and I feel like he had extra base

589
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Speaker 1: hits all of last year and he played a lot

590
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Speaker 1: last year. There was definitely a struggle there. And it's

591
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Speaker 1: funny too that you talk about the pitch recognition and

592
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Speaker 1: selling out, because I remember us even talking about it,

593
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Speaker 1: like we were like Dom's three oh pitches, Like He's

594
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Speaker 1: just like I'm swinging three to zero, which is like

595
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Speaker 1: typically not the approach that you have, and we were

596
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Speaker 1: so confused. We're like, what is the reasoning behind that?

597
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: Seems like we have our answer.

598
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Speaker 2: And Tom also has so many of those swings. Last year,

599
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Speaker 2: he almost like corkshrew his body and you see like

600
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Speaker 2: the little helmet like fall over his face.

601
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Speaker 1: He would helicopter above his head.

602
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna hitting mechanics. And it's almost like shame

603
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Speaker 2: on the Mets for letting him play almost one hundred

604
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Speaker 2: and fifty games last year, letting him get to like

605
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Speaker 2: five hundred play appearances, whatever it was, because he clearly

606
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Speaker 2: wasn't right, But I guess the next options were so

607
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: bad because the mess upper minders that really evaporated very

608
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Speaker 2: quickly last year, which is another issue we're gonna get

609
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Speaker 2: to later. But I do hope that we can't get

610
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Speaker 2: a powerful dom Smith because having that left handed bat

611
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Speaker 2: as in everyday DH or being able to basically split

612
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Speaker 2: time at first base with Pete, just having another left

613
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Speaker 2: in the lineup because most of the riots we're going

614
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Speaker 2: to play against could be monumentally important for the way

615
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Speaker 2: this lineup looks right now. And he put his money

616
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Speaker 2: where his mouth is. He had two home runs off

617
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Speaker 2: Max schers or an intersquad game, which that's glorified practice,

618
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Speaker 2: but it still happened. It still did exist. One of

619
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Speaker 2: them looked kind of like a cheapo, but it still

620
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Speaker 2: went over the fence, like fuck it. And he hit

621
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Speaker 2: another home run the first spring training game, and then

622
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Speaker 2: he hit a triple like there seems to be some

623
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Speaker 2: power there again. Luiski Army also had the home run

624
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Speaker 2: that day, so maybe the wind was blowing out. I

625
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: don't know what was going on. We also faced Josiah Gray,

626
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: who is just the king of giving up home runs.

627
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Speaker 2: We'll learn about that more this year as we played

628
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Speaker 2: Nationals a lot, and there was no Baseball Savant data

629
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Speaker 2: for this game, so that eggs of velocity could have

630
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Speaker 2: been anything, but it's something. It's positive.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, like Dom could be

632
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Speaker 1: a game changer for this lineup. We talked about all offseason.

633
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Speaker 1: Schwarber a nice left handed bat to be the DH

634
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Speaker 1: felt really really good, and one of the reasons was

635
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Speaker 1: because Dom's game took a huge step back. But learning

636
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Speaker 1: this information and then seeing that it looks like there's

637
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Speaker 1: a different Dom Smith, or at least the Dom Smith

638
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Speaker 1: of old, It's get me a little excited here. It's

639
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: making me think that Dom Smith might have we might

640
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Speaker 1: have sold out on Dom Smith a little bit early.

641
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Speaker 1: Granted we didn't have all the information. I think if

642
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Speaker 1: we had all the information, it had known he was

643
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Speaker 1: playing with the torn laboram and groin and all this stuff.

644
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Speaker 1: Probably a little different narrative from everybody in Mets world.

645
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Speaker 1: But if Dom is healthy and can go back to

646
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Speaker 1: even just like eighty percent of the player he wasn't

647
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, that does a massive, massive addition

648
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Speaker 1: to the York Mets lineup. It's huge.

649
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: It does a massive addition. Huh good English.

650
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does a massive adition. I don't know where

651
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: I was going with that. When I said it does,

652
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Speaker 1: I was like, it does a whole lot, but then

653
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Speaker 1: I wanted to say massive, So the English was not great.

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00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: That's whine we're talking about Springshare, we're talking about baseball

655
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: is the day that is important more so what we're

656
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: talking about, and tom could be a big deal because

657
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: we have another lefty who's going to be in this

658
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: lineup seemingly a lot who it's really hard to see

659
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: how they're going to fit in, and that's Robinson Cano.

660
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: And it does. This makes me feel like we haven't

661
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: spoken a long time, because we haven't talked since his

662
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: weird corny like scripted press conference about apologizing kinds of

663
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: air quotes, yeah for a steroid use. And even despite

664
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: all of that, when the Mets played a starter's lineup

665
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday in spring training, Canoe was the DH and

666
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: batting fifth, ahead of Dom Smith and ahead of J. D. Davis,

667
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: who both played the field with the backup the day

668
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: before when out that they both went off. So it's

669
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: really hard for me to see right now how he

670
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: isn't a large part of this team unless he basically

671
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: plays himself out of the role, which is scary.

672
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't remember when I heard it

673
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: or where I saw it, but I leave that Buck

674
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: talked about his role on the team, and he was

675
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: talking about McNeil and Dom as well, and he brought

676
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: up Don playing in the outfield, which is just crazy.

677
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: That should be thrown out the window. But anyway, back

678
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: to Robinson Cano, he brought up that Canoe is basically

679
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna be their DH. He's basically going to play at

680
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: that position, and he will play a little bit second

681
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: base because you just have to give guys some days off.

682
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: You got to make some moves here and there, and

683
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: there will be injuries. People are gonna miss games. But

684
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: it looks like Robinson Cano is gonna be slotted in

685
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: right now against right handed pitchers as our DH.

686
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's probably directly ahead of Dom Smith. So

687
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: that's going to be a battle. Mets fan should be

688
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: watching the spring. That seems like Dom might be getting

689
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 2: a leg up. Also because Buck show Walter had some

690
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: interesting things to say. I don't think that he uh,

691
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he wouldn't call them choice words for

692
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: Robinson Cano, but definitely he said some things that would

693
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: make me think that he respects him, but he just

694
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: might not entirely trust him. And this one quote really

695
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: drove that home where he said, talking to Robbie, the

696
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: thing he felt the worst about was not being there

697
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: for the club or the team to believe that have

698
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: I sat down said why'd you do it? What drove

699
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: you to it? No? I have some curiosity, but now

700
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: is not the time. So it's clear that Buck Showalter

701
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: hasn't like fully accepted Robsy Canoe back, but he does

702
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: realize that this is a team. And he said later on,

703
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: it's conducive for our club to move on. It's conducive

704
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: for our club to move on. We have not moved

705
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: on now. We don't want to move on. If we

706
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: want to be the best Mets team possible, we have

707
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: to move on and we have to see what Robson

708
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: Cano can give us.

709
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think the move on

710
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: is more in terms of like talk about all this

711
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: steroids stuff, talking about the narrative. Let's see what he does.

712
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: If he can't play, then we make a decision. But

713
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: right now, Robinson Cano is a part of this team.

714
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: He's a big part of this team. Per se again

715
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: with air quotes, but he's going to be there probably

716
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: for one hundred, one hundred and twenty games right now,

717
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: if everything's healthy and everything's good. I also do want

718
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: to say that Buck in the game that was on

719
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: S and Y against the Cardinals, did talk about that

720
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: he did love having Robbie around all the guys and

721
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: that he was really impressed with how he interacts with

722
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: everybody and he keeps everybody loose. He talked about him

723
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: an Ee Eduardo Escobar just being two really really awesome

724
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: guys that have around and that they have a lot

725
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: of knowledge. They want to help all the players, they

726
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: want to talk with guys, they're baseball dudes. They love

727
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: what they do. So at the absolute worst, it seems

728
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: like Cano's like a great guy to have around the clubhouse,

729
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: have around the bench almost maybe a little bit of

730
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: old Curtis Granderson rule ish, although Kurs Granderson was way

731
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: better than Robinson Cano is right now. But I like

732
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: that we can have kind of this older mentor around

733
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: that also is still technically a player, and it'd be great.

734
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: If he could do some stuff at the plate as well,

735
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: that would be the real you know, icing on the cake.

736
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: That's all good and well, but that's only what is

737
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: going to play if he's actually producing, because, as we

738
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: talked about at nauseum, this Met's roster is a little

739
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: bit snug right now at the bottom with guys who

740
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: don't really do that many helpful things as also many

741
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: different things than the other guys do, and Cano can

742
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: be good like Buck in that in that line of

743
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: quotes also said that this guy's can be able to

744
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: hit the ball when he's fifty, which is probably true.

745
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Problems like those backs to ball skills will never go away.

746
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: People really hilariously forget that in the short or twenty

747
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: twenty season he hit three sixteen with a five to

748
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: forty four slugging. If he can do something similar to

749
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: that over a smaller window, like he is going to

750
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: be the left handed batter that's gonna be getting most

751
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: of the DH reps against righty's and that is going

752
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: to be monumentally important for this team, especially as we

753
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: seem to be maybe lacking power and lacking some depth

754
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: in certain parts of the roster.

755
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely you gotta remember, of course, to that twenty

756
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: twenty season, he was was juiced a bit, so we

757
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: got the healthiest Robinson in a while, and Gary made

758
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: sure everybody knew that. Gary, I don't think is very

759
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: happy with Robinson Cano, but it's also a Mets fan,

760
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: so it makes sense they were talking about it a lot.

761
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, they are called performance enhancing

762
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: drugs for a reason because they enhance your performance, which

763
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: is not always necessarily true, but for a guy like

764
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: Robinson Cano, who struggled with probably feeling one hundred percent,

765
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: it definitely helped him out a lot in that twenty

766
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty season. So if we could just get a little

767
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: bit of that, I think we'd be happy.

768
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: Also, it should be noted that one of the reporters

769
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: I forget who, so I'm sorry for not giving someone credit,

770
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: ask Cano pretty bluntly, are you gonna guarantee you're not

771
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: gonna test positive again? And Kno responded, That's why I'm

772
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: here as a man to give you guys an apology.

773
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: It was tough for me this past year. That's not

774
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: that's not a yes.

775
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: And also what's interesting too, is about the stery he

776
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: got caught with is like one of the old steroids,

777
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and they thought that was all. Yeah, it was. It

778
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: was masking it, and they thought they were gonna be

779
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: able to get away with it. So like there's no

780
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: world of Robinson can I was still doing a little

781
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: something and gets gone. I mean, that wouldn't be the

782
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: worst case scenario.

783
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: It would be close to the best. That would be

784
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: a lifetime Bam, We'd get next year's contract right back.

785
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Twenty million dollars. We could spend that. Steve Cohen tax

786
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: looks a lot less daunting then.

787
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: I was shrevyt Store wouldn't have signed. But if that

788
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: would have happened eventually, But you know, it's something something

789
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on because I don't I'm not

790
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm treating Robinson Cano now like like

791
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: a really bad ex girlfriend. He's led to your life

792
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: and like I'm not gonna trust you. But it's like

793
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: if we could do some nice things and we'll see

794
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: what happens, but like eventually I'm waiting for you to

795
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: let me down again.

796
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: We could have some fun. But at the end of

797
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: the day, you know, it's it's short lived.

798
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: If you want to be designated hitter, or gains right

799
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: handed pitchers and you're gonna hit well from the left side. Sure,

800
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: I'll be happy to have you, but like, well, we're

801
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: gonna wait for trust.

802
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we we got to gain that trust back before

803
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: we really fully give it to Robinson Cano. Another thing

804
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: we have to watch this hire season. I'm not completely sold,

805
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: especially with what we saw in like the Winter League.

806
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: It didn't really hit the ball particularly hard or for

807
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: any sort of power. That's the thing. If he's gonna

808
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: be a singles hitter that does this no good.

809
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Now, singles hitter who can't play defense, we can get

810
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: one of those for free.

811
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: Literally anywhere anywhere. Pull someone up from the miner put

812
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Paulka, give him a shot. I want to talk

813
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: about him a little bit because he's looked a little

814
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: bit impressive too in the in the spring. So far

815
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: in these three games, he had a double yesterday off

816
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: the wall. The wind was blowing in against the Cardinals,

817
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: but he smoked the ball. This dude's an absolute unit,

818
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like he's a really interesting person to

819
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of have in the miners waiting if there is

820
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: some sort of injury or laps in the lineup that

821
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: we do need. He's like Matt adams Ish. I feel

822
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: like he's always.

823
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: Been a stackcast god between barrels and negs of vlasit.

824
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Paulka is a guy who's going to hit the ball

825
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve hundred and thirteen hundred and fourteen miles

826
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: the hour regularly. He's gonna miss the ball at He's

827
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: gonna strike out, But that's kind of part of the

828
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: course of Daniel Palka and him along with a big

829
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: time prospect we've talked about a lot of Mark Viento's

830
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: are definitely going to be near this designated hither mix

831
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: if this dom renaissance is fugazy and if Robinson Cano

832
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: can't hit the ball. JD. Davis, I think, is a

833
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: guy most confident ironically, and he's the one who hasn't

834
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: really hasn't been a notable news about Ja Dy Davis

835
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: right now. He's certainly working with the second team, but

836
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: he him, Paulka and Viento's simply probably hit the ball

837
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: the hardest from this group, with Don being the wild

838
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: card and Canoe being the ugly step child.

839
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes, no, there's a lot of little interesting guys here.

840
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I think it's also worth mentioning that Nick Plumber, yes too,

841
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: might have a little bit more of a role than

842
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: we thought early on in the season here with some

843
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: news that we're gonna talk about later. He's also looking

844
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: really solid and he was a guy that was in

845
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals organization, so you know, he's a ballplayer. Cardinals

846
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: don't really mess around with guys who aren't that good,

847
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: and he looks solid.

848
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: When the Cardinals Klein outfielder, everybody should be aware because

849
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: most of the outfielders that they get rid of turned

850
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: into stars. Between a Rose Raine and Tommy fam Last

851
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Dollas Garcia like Cardinals kleinolfielder, he can really smoke the ball,

852
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: and I hope I'm hoping Nick Palmler is the same.

853
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: But now with the news they just alluded to that

854
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: Starling Marte has a bit of a strain in his oblique,

855
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: which is something that Starling Marte is dealt with in

856
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: the past. It's also something that's really scary for someone

857
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: in their mid thirties. There's a good chance that that

858
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: pushes Jeff McNeil to regular outfield reps early in the season,

859
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: which makes this whole Robinson canothing much more interesting because

860
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: there might be a gap at second base, but if

861
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: not McNeil going to the outfield, we are going to

862
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: have to have to dip into this strange and not

863
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: that great outfield depth we have between Nick Plumber, Khalily,

864
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: and the news signe Travis Jankowski, and that's gonna create

865
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: a lineup that is really, interestingly not that great, which

866
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: we saw on Saturday when the Mets play their starters

867
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: in air quotes for their spring game. It started Nimo

868
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: Lindor McNeil, Alonso, and then the outfield in that game

869
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: was Kanaha Nimo Jankowski. So somehow Jankowski was getting the

870
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: reps with the starters ahead of Khalily and Nick Plumber,

871
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: which again for most met fans, that's basically a who

872
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't care at all about the difference between those

873
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: three guys, but it's weird that he got the first shot.

874
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: In my eyes, yeah, I mean, he's a guy who's

875
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: got great defense. Drankowski gonna play great defense. He's a

876
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: freak athlete, and if you get anything about the plate,

877
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a positive. But he was

878
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: a former first round pick. We like to talk about

879
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: that when something that me and you have spoken about

880
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot too. Is just like we'd love the Mets

881
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: to take some flyers on some interesting players, not albert

882
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: al Mora, who doesn't really do anything particularly well.

883
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: Besides like crash, I think it's also a former first

884
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: round pick as you talk the side of your mouth.

885
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but whatever, who cares? I don't care about Alberta Moore.

886
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: But Travis Shankowski's at least really fast.

887
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: Yes, that's cool.

888
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Palka hits the ball really hard, plumber, all around

889
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: solid looking player right now, Like I like that we're

890
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: not really scraping the bargain bit or the bottom of

891
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: the barrel for you guys that are on their way

892
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: out of Major League baseball. Feels like there's a place

893
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: for all these guys on the team. Hopefully it doesn't

894
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: have to be the Mets right now, but with this

895
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: strong Marte injury, it might be sooner than we think.

896
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: And again, I think we have to talk about the

897
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Marte injury a little bit more too, because in the

898
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I is it called an interview or when he was

899
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: at his locker in spring training, he was getting a

900
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: lot of questions about it and they were talking about

901
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: doing X rays in this. They're like, isn't oblique. He's like, well,

902
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: we thought it was an oblique, but there was some

903
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: other stuff on there, and they're like, well, well, what

904
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: what was it. He's like, it was mother stuff. I

905
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like that one bit. That's

906
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: terrifying you. I won't say, I won't say, but all

907
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: of us Mets fans we are thinking the exact same thing.

908
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: And don't you dare fucking say to anybody, but it's

909
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: getting eerily similar to something we will not mention.

910
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, this lineup looks much less long when

911
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: he's not in it because it goes sorry that before Nimo,

912
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Lindor McNeil, Alonzo, which I think McNeil before Alonzo is

913
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: kind of sketchy but doesn't make sense. They want to

914
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: separate the lefties here, which I would just probably do

915
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: that in a different way. But again, Nimo Lindor McNeil, Alonzo,

916
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: Cano Escobar, Kannah, McCann, Jankowski, that's not a very fear

917
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: inducing lineup.

918
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: No, that is not a lineup that people are scared of.

919
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: And I think that's something we have to talk about too,

920
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: is that there's a big narrative going around Mets fans

921
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: that this Mets lineup is not very good, that they

922
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: need bats, that we are we had a lackluster offseason,

923
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: which I'm ready to nip that in the bud right now.

924
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: Stop it, everybody, stop it. Ridiculous nonsense. This Mets had

925
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: a great offseason. It's not the freaking Texas Ranger signing

926
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon and Corey Seeger. But we had one the

927
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: better off seasons in all of baseball. We need to

928
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: We need to get that out of here right now.

929
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: We definitely do. But I am really seeing the sentiment

930
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: when we see this lineup without Starling Marte, that there

931
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: could be room for another hither, And of course that

932
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: hither very well could be either Dominic Smith or j. D. Davis.

933
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: If you can move McNeil to an outfield spot, get

934
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Jankowski on the bench where he probably he's more fit

935
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: as a bench role player who can run a little

936
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: bit and play some defense, that would lankeen this a lot.

937
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: But if they are gonna commit to McNeil never playing

938
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: the outfield again, which I think could be wrong, or

939
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: if they're gonna commit to jobs of cano just never

940
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: going to the keystone, which might be right. It seems

941
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: like this team, this rosters might need a guy. I

942
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: just don't know who that guy is.

943
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a name, Michael Confordo. It's making

944
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: more and more sense every day, especially if Marte is hurt,

945
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: and I think that will the Mets moves over the

946
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: next couple weeks here with Marte, you know, rehabing this

947
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: oblique injury. He says he's gonna be fine for Opening Day.

948
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: He says he's gonna catch up on at bats the

949
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: last week of spring training, which is like, dude, that's

950
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: next week, Like that's c retally not that long or

951
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: far away. You gotta see what the Mets do here

952
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: in terms of moves. You gotta see what they do

953
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: in terms of playing these guys like Nick Plumber and

954
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Khleli and Travis Jankowski and see what they're doing with them.

955
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Because I can also tell you a lot of insight

956
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: about what's going on with Starling Martayne. If he's gonna

957
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: actually be ready for Opening Day.

958
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm going to shout out a fantasy baseball

959
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: rither who recently just got a gig with the Athletic

960
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: His name is Mike Kurland on Twitter, and he is

961
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: the king of spring training lineups and spring training player usage.

962
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: That's where I'm getting all the spring training lineups. He

963
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: does it incredibly. He has like this public like fourteen

964
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: tab Google sheet that's nl AL and it goes by

965
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: division and you can see day by day every single

966
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: team's lineups. You can see the way they delineate between

967
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: the A lineup and the B lineup, and you clearly

968
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: see right now the Mets B lineup you have JD.

969
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: Davis hitting second, playing third, and Dom Smith hitting third,

970
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: playing first, and Khalil Ly is consistently in that B

971
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: lineup two with Nick Plumber and Daniel Palka, but also

972
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: Jake Mangum who kind of he's kind of like gonna

973
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: be dravits Travis Jankowski too. But it's maybe just the

974
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: way timing worked when they signed Jankowski that he just

975
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: fit better with this A team rather than the other guys,

976
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: or maybe they want to make sure that Plumber and

977
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: clear Lee are getting as many outfield reps as possible

978
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: and hitting maybe relatively a little bit higher in their

979
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: respective orders than Jankowski is. But if one of those

980
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: guys doesn't step up and contribute very much on this team.

981
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: It seems like we're gonna have a very strange bottom

982
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: of the rosters from the hitting side when the season begins.

983
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: If Martes on the ale.

984
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Martes on the ale, that's the big If.

985
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: If Marte is out of the isle, there's a world

986
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: where he's just completely fine and right for opening day.

987
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: And we just got worried about absolutely nothing. But like

988
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: you said, a muscle injury oblique something he's dealt with.

989
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: For a guy who's getting older, while he is an

990
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: incredible shape, we know that doesn't really matter. Guys an

991
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: incredible shape get hurt all the time.

992
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Incredible shape is almost worse because you're a little bit tighter.

993
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: All the muscles are a little bit bigger. It's you've

994
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: seen that a lot on the other side of the

995
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: city here with Judge and Stanton, where it just things

996
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: are easy to get pulled.

997
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Too big for baseball.

998
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: Even though sarn mates. Now that guy's cut up, he

999
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: looks like it looks like an old school warrior.

1000
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: A picture of him on the horse is just outlandish.

1001
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this this is all probably just rearing its

1002
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: ugly heads into our just still, you know, very pessimistic

1003
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: minds from a lifetime Mets fandom, because literally the rest

1004
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: of the NL East has made massive moves over the

1005
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: last week since we've last talked to you guys. The

1006
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: Braves made major additions to their bullpen with Kenley Jansen Colin McHugh.

1007
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: The Phillies are just buying into massive power with no

1008
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: defense with Nick Castiano's joining kylash Warber as my buddy

1009
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Phillies fan is pumping his fists in the background of

1010
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: this video, Horace Hilaire went to the Marlins, another big

1011
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: power bat who's gonna get probably swallowed up by the ballpark.

1012
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Nelson Cruz hilariously as Washington National, which if you had

1013
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: to give me twenty seven guesses for where Nelson cru

1014
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: is going to sign, I probably wouldn't have said the Nationals.

1015
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: There's a last shit going on in this division. This

1016
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: is gonna be a hotly contested division and there's a

1017
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: lot of activity here and it seems like it's gonna

1018
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: be a real dogfight all season long.

1019
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I still think

1020
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: there are tiers to this division. I think you have

1021
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: the Mets and Braves, who I think are definitely still

1022
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: the top tier, even though the Phillies went out and

1023
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: grabbed two really good bats in shore Burn Castianos, and

1024
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: they will both hit extremely well in Philadelphia at that

1025
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: band box. But we talked about the depth with the

1026
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Mets being a little bit of an issue. The Phillies

1027
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 1: legitimately have nobody outside of their like eight good plays

1028
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: and then that's it. They got nothing else. So I'm

1029
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: not particularly worried about the Phillies yet. I think they're

1030
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: right below the Mets. And then you got the Marlins

1031
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: just right in that same kind of category. Because the

1032
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Marlins are much improved. The pitching is going to be disgusting,

1033
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: so if they get any sort of offense, they're gonna

1034
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: be scary. They're not gonna be a layover team push

1035
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: over anymore. The Marlins are going to be a pain

1036
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: in our ass this year. I can guarantee that. And

1037
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: then the Nationals still stink, but they do have one

1038
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: Soto who can just win a.

1039
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Game for you, and and Josh Bell and Nelson Cruz.

1040
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: They suddenly have a good middle of the order. Like

1041
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: that's at least something to be aware of. And it's

1042
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: weird that every single team in this division. If you

1043
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: look at Vegas over under, it will probably do some

1044
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: some Vegas stuff's in the next coming weeks here with

1045
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: the Mets Up podcast, no team is projective for less

1046
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: than seventy wins. That's a division where you don't have

1047
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: any pushovers, and most of the divisions in baseball have

1048
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: at least one pushover.

1049
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's gonna be a bit of a clogged

1050
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: up NL East. The Braves I think are still the

1051
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: scariest team. I still think, as we've been saying all year,

1052
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: or at least I have can't win the Nlest without

1053
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: beating the Braves. And they got definitely a little bit

1054
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: better with that bullpen. Mceew I think is almost more

1055
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: so the better addition than Jans and Jansen I still

1056
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: think very good. But MQ's gonna be that that sneaky

1057
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: eye who we mentioned can go a couple of innings

1058
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: like we mentioned with mcguil, like he's gonna be huge.

1059
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: They did that with Josh Tomlin, who does not nearly

1060
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: have the stuff like Colin McHugh, So that's an automatic upgrade.

1061
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Janson is also very important to that Braves bullpen because

1062
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: a lot of their better pitchers are left handed, and

1063
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: the fact and now they can throw it righty into

1064
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: there to offset a little bit that lefty. Uh that

1065
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: left the heavy bullpen just they have a lot of

1066
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: options at the end of games, and it's gonna be

1067
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be scary. Even though I think Jansen, like

1068
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: I've said before, he might he's definitely on the way

1069
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: down and it's gonna be interesting to see what he

1070
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: looks like without the sticky stuff. But he's better than

1071
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: Will Smith. I don't know if he's better than Tyler

1072
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: Matzick or even aj Minter if he could pitch his

1073
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: false potential. But they just have a very strong They

1074
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: went adding one guy in the back of that bullpen

1075
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: took it from mid to like pretty good.

1076
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they have a good arsenal of pitchers, kind

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Speaker 1: of like the let's have a good bullpen too, Like

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great bullpen. I'm not say anything

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Speaker 1: bad about the mess of bullpen. We're not We're not

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Speaker 1: saying they're good and we're bad. We're we're good.

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Speaker 2: They're good.

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Speaker 1: Phillies are bad, Yes, Phillies are bad. Phillies bullpen is

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Speaker 1: still bad, which is they got saving grace.

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Speaker 2: Thing is gonna be. We're gonna lose some games to

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Speaker 2: the Phillies' power, like Nick Casianos are alsh War is

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: gonna just take over games against us, and that's going

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Speaker 2: to suck. But we're gonna have a great game against

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Speaker 2: the Phillies, probably in mayor June, where we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: losing by four in the sixth and either Familiar or

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Speaker 2: coonra their Brogden or who they signed another.

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Speaker 1: Alvarado or.

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Speaker 2: Where there was another reliever they signed mid level reliever

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Speaker 2: Familia who brad Hand? That was rad Oh yeah, Familia

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00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: or brad Hand are gonna come in the game, and

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna hit the ground ball to Alec Bohm.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna throw it over Reese hoskins head and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna hit the fly ball and Ni Casiano is gonna

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00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: misplayed off a hob and we're gonna like score five

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Speaker 2: runs without doing anything good. So that's gonna happen. In

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Speaker 2: addition to kosh War, we're definitely hitting a tank off

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Speaker 2: Edmond Dias and people losing their minds.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's gonna be a couple games where the

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Speaker 1: Phillies beat us by like fourteen runs, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: But there's also gonna be a lot of games that

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Speaker 1: we beat them because they don't actually know how to

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Speaker 1: play baseball outside of hitting home runs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and two of their pitchers pitching really well. As

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Speaker 2: long as Zach Wheeler is healthy, which I don't want

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00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: to I do want to root for anybody's lack of health.

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Speaker 2: But Zach Wheeler isn't healthy. The Phillies are going to

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00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: struggle twenty eighty games. Again, wouldn't be the worst thing

1112
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Speaker 2: if you missed the couple starts. No, no, you come

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Speaker 2: on with i' want the guy to be healthy, have

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Speaker 2: a long career ahead of him. And the one'actly where

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Speaker 2: the pitch well into his four of these is this? This,

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00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: April and May are not important.

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Speaker 1: Not important at all. He can miss a couple starts

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Speaker 1: in April and May, and we'll see you in June.

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Speaker 1: And then you're slowing down and you're throwing seventy pitches

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Speaker 1: in June, and then it comes into one hundred in July.

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Speaker 1: It's that's fine, that sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Fine. Ramp them up, what's the word healthily?

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Speaker 1: Gradually?

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Speaker 2: Gradually wrap them up, gradually, don't don't let don't let

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Speaker 2: this season get away from you. Philadelphia and all the

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Speaker 2: Mets fans out there, don't don't be scared of this.

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Speaker 2: This Phillies team. They're good, but they're they're more of

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Speaker 2: an eighty five eighty seven win team. I think this

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00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: Mets ross right now is more of an eighty nine

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Speaker 2: to ninety two win team, similar to the Braves. I

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00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: think we are, like you said, a tier ahead of them,

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Speaker 2: but they are within striking.

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Speaker 1: Distance without a doubt, and they might not be done.

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Speaker 1: They can still make some moves here and there, and

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Speaker 1: they can sell a couple guys come up like there's

1136
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot to go on. This Major League Baseball season

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00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: is extremely long, as we know as Mets fans. It's

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Speaker 1: not one in June, it's not one in July. It

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00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: matters what happens at the end of September. And right now,

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: the Mets are in a good position. They're not in

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00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: the best position, but they're definitely in a good position.

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00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: This team is better than they were last year, and

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00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: you're foolest think if they're not they're going to compete

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Speaker 1: for the National League's title. They're gonna compete for a

1145
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: playoff spot. They're gonna be one of the better teams

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: in the National League as long as everything stays healthy

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00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: and good.

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00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: Yes, as long as everything stays healthy and good, and

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00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: we know it won't, but it's about having the depth

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: to get us through when it doesn't go well, and

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00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: we I think have that a little bit more than

1152
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: most teams this division. The Braves have just so many

1153
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: baseball players it's a little scary, but I think I

1154
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: think the Mets are in a good spot and they're

1155
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 2: them and the Braves actually have basically the exact same

1156
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: projections everywhere Las Vegas baseball perspectives, fan grafts necka deck.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a very fun season us versus them, I.

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00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Will say from a fan perspective, the games are gonna

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00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: be electric City Field. We're gonna have like four really

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00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: really competitive teams going up against the Mets like every week,

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Speaker 1: between the Phillies, Braves, and the Marlins, or it's three

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00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: my bad three teams so Nationals. There'll be a pin

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Speaker 1: in our ass and Lane Thomas will do something or

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00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Stevenson will go like four for four to one game.

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Speaker 2: But Laye Thomas might not be that bad. Layne Thomas

1166
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: is kind of a good low ball player. I've been

1167
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: on Lane Thomas for a while. I think I think

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00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: he's pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: And then they also have one, so oh, can't forget him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I it can just be a pet division. But

1171
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: you have to just have Solis and the fact that

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Speaker 2: every team is playing all of these games. We're all

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Speaker 2: gonna play the Reds the same amount of time, draw

1174
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: playing the Pirates the same amount of time, draw playing the Rockies, Dimebacks,

1175
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: same amount of times. We just have to win these

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Speaker 2: games in division that kind of got away from the

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Speaker 2: Mets at the end of last season. You gotta win

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Speaker 2: these games in the division.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And I think they're in a good spot again. Well.

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Speaker 1: Excited to see Bassett pitch. I think he's coming up

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Speaker 1: later this week to Grom. I think pitches technically tomorrow, right.

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Speaker 2: He had that great ballpen session the other day. Just

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Speaker 2: put him bubble wrap. We'll see him later, see you later.

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Speaker 1: You'll be ready for opening Day, don't care. There's a

1185
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: lot more to keep an eye out for, narratives, players performances.

1186
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: Of course, you guys know we're gonna keep you up

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Speaker 1: to date with everything here on the mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much it though for this episode, right, James,

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all run down, all right.

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Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up here. So, if you guys are

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Speaker 1: James the follow at cheater had no Range, me at

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Speaker 1: draftteck Mark with the sea. And that's gonna be it

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Speaker 1: for episode number seventy nine of the met Stuff Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening and watching. See you next time,

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Speaker 1: beas out

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Speaker 2: Beas out Ius, See you next time, did you