WEBVTT - What was Web 2.0?

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<v Speaker 1>With Technology with Text Stuff from toom. Hey there everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Jonathan with Text Stuff and today I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to peep back into the past. This is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a rerun episode. This is actually gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>new episode, but it's a new episode about something that

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff has covered before. Back in Chris Pallette and

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<v Speaker 1>I did an episode about what is web two point oh?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we've had enough time since then to

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<v Speaker 1>really take a look back and explore what the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of web two point oh was and what if anything

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<v Speaker 1>is taking its place, and does the term mean anything

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just kind of a placeholder. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opinion in this because it's from my own

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<v Speaker 1>personal perspective. But honestly, if you've heard the term web

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<v Speaker 1>two point oh and you always wondered what that meant,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to cover today. But to start off,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to look at a history of the Web itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you all know that the Web and

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet are two different things, but just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>let's lay down that groundwork. Now. The Internet refers to

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<v Speaker 1>the network of networks, this gigantic network of computer networks

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<v Speaker 1>that are all interconnected together. There's a series of connections

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<v Speaker 1>that allows computers to communicate with one another. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is an enormous system that allows all kinds of different

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<v Speaker 1>types of communication to go across it. And back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, we used to talk about the Internet in

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of the information super Highway. You might be

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with that term. So it was kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure that allowed rapid communication across the globe and allowed

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<v Speaker 1>people who were on one computer network to communicate directly

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<v Speaker 1>with who are on a totally separate computer network. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of this interconnectivity. Now the Web is just one way

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<v Speaker 1>to send and consume information on that super highway. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of it as a vehicle that shares

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<v Speaker 1>the super highway with other vehicles. So the Web would

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<v Speaker 1>be like a giant bus. And then you might have

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<v Speaker 1>a freight train that's or not freight train, but a

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<v Speaker 1>freight truck that's driving right next to it that's file

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<v Speaker 1>transfer protocol, or a bunch of mail vehicles M A

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<v Speaker 1>I L that would stand for email that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>These would all be traveling along the Internet. None of

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<v Speaker 1>them are the Internet. They're just a means of communication

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<v Speaker 1>that exists because the Internet is the platform upon which

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<v Speaker 1>they exist. So you access the web through a web browser.

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<v Speaker 1>Big shock there, I'm sure we usually refer to that

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<v Speaker 1>as the client. Your machine with the web browser is

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<v Speaker 1>the client, and the browser or client lets you request

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<v Speaker 1>information from another machine on the Internet, which we call

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<v Speaker 1>a server. The server receives your request in response to

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<v Speaker 1>it sends the relevant data back to you. And all

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<v Speaker 1>of that has done through a visual interface. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got something rendered out as uh uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's easy to to interpret and consume within the browser,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to a text based approach that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>marred by lots of code that might be really confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Now, the path taken by your request and

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<v Speaker 1>the returning information isn't set in stone, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>different from roads. This is where the road analogy really

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down, because if you have a set of roads

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<v Speaker 1>between you and your destination, you might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take a detour or perhaps two detours if things are

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. Let's say there's flooding, you can't get to

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<v Speaker 1>where you were going using your normal routes. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way the Internet goes it's way more robust than that.

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<v Speaker 1>The information is delivered via packets. The packets all can

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<v Speaker 1>travel different pathways to get to their destination, whereupon everything

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<v Speaker 1>gets put back together and displayed for you. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not just for Web information. That's for all information going

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<v Speaker 1>across the Internet traffic. But it's uh. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why the Internet is so useful. It's that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry if there is a break in

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<v Speaker 1>the communication lines between you and the web server because

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<v Speaker 1>the data can route around. That very important if you

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<v Speaker 1>have machines that are constantly going on and offline. So

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<v Speaker 1>back to the web. Now, the birthplace of the World

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<v Speaker 1>Wide Web is CERN. That's the same organization that oversees

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<v Speaker 1>the large had drawn colliders. So we're talking particle physics

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<v Speaker 1>and lull cats all because of CERN. Thanks TERN, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>say thanks to Tim berners Lee, who developed what would

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<v Speaker 1>become the basis of the World Wide Web on the

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<v Speaker 1>next computer and uh, in case you're an familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>what Next is or was, really it was a computer

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<v Speaker 1>platform developed by Steve Jobs after he had been forced

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<v Speaker 1>from Apple. So Apple forced Steve Jobs out of the

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<v Speaker 1>company or Steve Jobs quit, depending upon the person telling

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<v Speaker 1>the story, and as a result, Steve Jobs then went

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<v Speaker 1>on to found a new company called Next and develop

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<v Speaker 1>a new type of computer. Eventually he would come back

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<v Speaker 1>to Apple. Essentially, Apple begged Steve Jobs to return just

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<v Speaker 1>as Apple was on the brink of bankruptcy, and Next

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<v Speaker 1>kind of faded away. But it was the Next computer

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<v Speaker 1>that Tim burners Lee was using to develop web pages

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<v Speaker 1>and the first web browser. In fact, the first website

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<v Speaker 1>was built in by Tim burners Lee and he hosted

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<v Speaker 1>it on his own computer. That site contained information about

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose and structure of the web, so kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an explanation of what the web would be capable of,

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<v Speaker 1>and also a set of instructions on how to create

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<v Speaker 1>your own web server, because obviously the web is only

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<v Speaker 1>really useful if other people start to join on. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of a you know, you just logg

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<v Speaker 1>in remotely to someone else's computer. It's not that exciting now.

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<v Speaker 1>The browser he built was called Worldwide Web is where

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<v Speaker 1>we get that from. And things continued along a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of research centers and students began to get access to

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<v Speaker 1>the world Wide Web, but things really took off on

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<v Speaker 1>April three, n That's when uh CERN decided to release

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<v Speaker 1>the web to the general public, meaning they made the

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<v Speaker 1>information itself on how the web works public and open.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with the open license for the Web, CERN offered

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<v Speaker 1>a basic browser and a library of code to help

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<v Speaker 1>things move along, and it didn't take long for other

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<v Speaker 1>organizations and eventually people and companies to join in. So

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<v Speaker 1>Also in nineteen three, the National Center for super Computing

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<v Speaker 1>Applications or in cs A released Mosaic one point oh

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<v Speaker 1>and that became the first web browser to really find

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<v Speaker 1>popularity among the general public. At this point, most of

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<v Speaker 1>the people using the web were still researchers and students,

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<v Speaker 1>but gradually people outside of these groups began to learn

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<v Speaker 1>of the web. It started to get press coverage, and

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<v Speaker 1>people began to get excited by this concept of a

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<v Speaker 1>computer network that you could access and find real information

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<v Speaker 1>and communicate with people in real time. And here's a

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<v Speaker 1>funny note. During this time, I was in college and

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<v Speaker 1>my first impression of the Web at that time was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was slow, and it was unattractive and it

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<v Speaker 1>was superfluous. I had become used to browsing the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>using other means like tel net to connect to chat

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<v Speaker 1>rooms or games or whatever, or even uh not full

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<v Speaker 1>Internet access things like bulletin board systems, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the graphical approach to the web was completely

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessary and slow things down. The browser had to take

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<v Speaker 1>time to get the information and render the stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>need to see, and at the time, the internet connectivity

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<v Speaker 1>and the power of computers meant that that stuff took ages.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, well, who wants to sit around

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<v Speaker 1>forever to try and get this information when you could

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<v Speaker 1>get it so much faster using FTP or tell net

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it may be, depending upon the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>information you're interested in. So I thought the web was

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<v Speaker 1>probably a flash in the pan. It would not be

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I'd be radically wrong about the technology

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'd learned. At any rate, by the web

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<v Speaker 1>was making headlines and e commerce became a thing. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the earliest examples I could find was that pizza

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<v Speaker 1>Hut sold a pizza online, actually allowing customers to order

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<v Speaker 1>pizza in some areas using the web. The company Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>was founded around this time too, and its main purpose

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<v Speaker 1>at that time was to serve as just a search

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<v Speaker 1>engine to help search for the content on the web,

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<v Speaker 1>making it easier for people to find stuff they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Before search engines. It was pretty tough. You had to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of you kind of had to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the click that understood how the web worked. Now

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<v Speaker 1>today we're all used to things like you r l s,

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to type in a web address. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there may be a couple of websites that you still

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<v Speaker 1>navigate to by typing in the web address, but not

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is comfortable with that. So search engines made it

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<v Speaker 1>much easier for people to interact with the Web without

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<v Speaker 1>having to memorize the protocol that they would need in

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<v Speaker 1>order to visit a specific website. Now, much later than

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties, we look back on the websites of

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<v Speaker 1>this era as being pre Web two point oh. For

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, you could probably call them Web one

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<v Speaker 1>point oh. But that's what we call a retronym, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>we named it after the thing had already happened. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of like World War One. While World

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<v Speaker 1>War One was going on, no one referred to it

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<v Speaker 1>as World War one. There had not been a World

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<v Speaker 1>War two yet, there'd be no reason to call it

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<v Speaker 1>World War one unless you expected there to be another one,

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<v Speaker 1>so you might use something else like the Great War. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And It was only in in a you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>retrospect when World War two broke out, that World War

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<v Speaker 1>One really got that name. So what actually defines web

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<v Speaker 1>one point oh? For lack of a better term, Not

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<v Speaker 1>everyone even thinks web one point oh is is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing at all? Like it? It doesn't make any sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people will use that term, but wasn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>described well. The websites in those days. Most of them

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<v Speaker 1>were largely static pages, which means you would navigate to

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<v Speaker 1>a page and see what was there, and after doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>there'd probably be very little reason to ever return to

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<v Speaker 1>that page because it's going to be pretty much the same. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the equivalent of a magazine or

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<v Speaker 1>a book. You know, if you go and you read

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<v Speaker 1>a magazine and you close the magazine, then you come

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<v Speaker 1>back to it and you open it up to the

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<v Speaker 1>same page, it's gonna be the same magazine article. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change from one moment to the next. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>way a lot of websites were in the early days.

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<v Speaker 1>Those web pages didn't have any way for visitors to

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<v Speaker 1>have any kind of meaningful interaction on the site. At most,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a visitor counter that would click up

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<v Speaker 1>a notch each time someone navigated to the website, and

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<v Speaker 1>those were a huge deal early on. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys remember, but I remember lots of websites

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<v Speaker 1>having a visitor counter, and they took it as a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of pride when they passed a arbitrary milestone like

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand visitors or something like that. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>no way to leave comments or have any other impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the site for the most part for these types

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<v Speaker 1>of web pages. Now there were exceptions. Some websites were

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to updating content regularly, or they were allowing people

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<v Speaker 1>to leave their own contributions, or even both of those

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<v Speaker 1>things at the same time. There was a student at

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<v Speaker 1>Swarthmore College named Justin Hall who started up a web

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<v Speaker 1>page in Originally, it was just a collection of links

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<v Speaker 1>that he thought were particularly interesting. The website was called

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<v Speaker 1>Justin's Links, and not long after he started the site,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually saw the potential to do something more with

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<v Speaker 1>it than just show a collection of links, and he

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<v Speaker 1>sought as a way to publish his thoughts to a

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<v Speaker 1>global audience, kind of like an online journal, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people point to Justin's Links as being the

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<v Speaker 1>first blog UH. This sort of approach of using the

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<v Speaker 1>web as sort of a dynamic communication tool set the

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<v Speaker 1>site apart from a lot of the web pages that

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<v Speaker 1>were around at the same time. But many sites lacked

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of dynamic approach, and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>companies began to rush the web in hopes of beating

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<v Speaker 1>competitors to the punch. The web was viewed as kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a Wild West type of territory in which a

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<v Speaker 1>company could stake its claim online and stand to make

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of money in the short term before everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else caught up. Simultaneously, several companies emerged that use the

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<v Speaker 1>web as the very foundation for the company itself. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them offered goods or services to consumers, so normal

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<v Speaker 1>people who are just using the web themselves. Others were

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<v Speaker 1>targeting other companies and they were offering up services meant

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<v Speaker 1>to help businesses succeed, but many of these lacked any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of cohesive business plan, which caused a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They were offering up services that some people found helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have any way of making money. And

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<v Speaker 1>this obviously is not something that has just gone away.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen this with lots of different services. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>which exists solely as a means to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>acquired by other larger businesses. UH, which can work if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a great idea for a service or app

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<v Speaker 1>that people are going to really enjoy using, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a way of generating money from that. It

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<v Speaker 1>might us be good enough to get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>attention and then wait for someone to offer to buy you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe they'll figure out a way of using it,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe they'll pair it with stuff they already have,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it makes money. But back then, not

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<v Speaker 1>having a plan just wasn't really working for people. Towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the ninety nineties, web companies were sprouting

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<v Speaker 1>up all over the place, and investors were really excited

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<v Speaker 1>at the opportunity to get in on the ground floor

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<v Speaker 1>of something that had the potential to become huge, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>you could stand to become a millionaire overnight with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these opportunities, and they began to flood startup companies

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<v Speaker 1>with cash. More than a few of those startup companies

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<v Speaker 1>ended up with way more money than what they needed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that encouraged some bad decisions on the part of founders.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of founders began to spend that excess cash

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<v Speaker 1>by creating lavish headquarters or crazy benefits for employees. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>their businesses still didn't have a way of making revenue. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, let's say that you want to open

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<v Speaker 1>up a lemonade stand, and normally you would just need

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<v Speaker 1>a few dollars to buy some lemons and some sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>You get some water, and then you put all that together.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you get a little poster board to write up

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<v Speaker 1>a sign. So maybe you're starting budget is twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and you're selling it for five cents a cup, and

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<v Speaker 1>you figure out that after a certain number of cups,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've got plenty of of of supply there.

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<v Speaker 1>After a certain number of cups, you're going to break even. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after that's all profit and you've got enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make a decent profit over your investment. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that you are opening up that lemonade stand, but

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<v Speaker 1>someone's given you twenty thousand dollars and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any way of scaling up your operation, So you just

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<v Speaker 1>spend that extra money on a really nice lemonade stand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, a soup, a nifty titanium lemon crusher,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. It doesn't help you make money

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<v Speaker 1>in the long run. It just means that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>spent your your startup cash. A lot of companies fell

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<v Speaker 1>into this trap. You can read about startups dot com

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<v Speaker 1>industries in the late nineties and how ridiculously lavish some

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<v Speaker 1>of their offices were, and it was a mess. So

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<v Speaker 1>compounding that problem was the fact that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these companies were rewarding employees by giving them shares of

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<v Speaker 1>the company. Now, if everything was working, fine, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>because those shares are worth real money once you get

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where the employees are allowed to sell

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<v Speaker 1>those shares. Usually there's a period where employees are not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to do that sort of thing until they get

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<v Speaker 1>to a particular point in the fiscal year. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>where the real problems came in because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these companies began to falter when people realized, hey, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a way of making money and they

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<v Speaker 1>can only keep treading water with investment money for so

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<v Speaker 1>long before everything falls apart. And it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>house of cards. It all fell down, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>all fall down on a single day. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a particular day you can point to and say

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<v Speaker 1>this is the day the bubble burst, the bubble meaning

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<v Speaker 1>this speculation bubble of the value of dot com companies. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened over a course of years from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>one essentially, and during that time people began to get

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<v Speaker 1>more suspicious of dot com companies that began to ask

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<v Speaker 1>harder questions. The companies themselves were starting to run out

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<v Speaker 1>of that investment money, and because they hadn't found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to generate enough revenue, they couldn't stay afloat, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them went completely out of business. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them took serious hits to their value. Amazon dot Com,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, was around in those days and for a

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<v Speaker 1>while had shares that were in the triple digit value,

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<v Speaker 1>like over a hundred dollars of share, but after the

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<v Speaker 1>bubble burst it dropped to less than ten dollars a share,

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<v Speaker 1>huge drop. But companies like Amazon were large enough and

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<v Speaker 1>and savvy enough to wade through that time and emerge

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<v Speaker 1>out the other side. Not all companies were so lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst part of this is that those employees

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<v Speaker 1>who had worked so hard and had been rewarded in

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<v Speaker 1>stock now found themselves with worthless stock. The companies were bankrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>so the shares were not worth anything, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge issue. So you had all these people who,

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<v Speaker 1>for a while on paper were millionaires and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>they were broke, or at least they weren't millionaires anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Many dot com companies went on to business um and

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<v Speaker 1>those that stayed around people wanted to try and figure out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what what set them apart, what made them different? How

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<v Speaker 1>did these companies survive? How did these websites make it

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<v Speaker 1>through the dot com bubble burst while so many others

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<v Speaker 1>went away? And that's where the term web two point

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<v Speaker 1>oh really comes into play. Now. Personally, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dumb term. It's terrible. It suggests a chronological order,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would suggest that there was first Web one

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<v Speaker 1>point oh and then at some point there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Web two point oh release. Because it's very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the way we look at software. For example, we're operating systems,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what this means. It's not the way

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<v Speaker 1>it works. So I think it's ultimately more confusing than helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what we have, uh, And the truth is

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<v Speaker 1>that both websites that were more in the Web one

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<v Speaker 1>point oh frame than the web two point oh frame

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<v Speaker 1>and web two point o websites existed at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, this wasn't chronological. You can't point to

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<v Speaker 1>a date and say after this time, all the websites

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<v Speaker 1>were Web two point oh. Even back in with Justin's Links,

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<v Speaker 1>we start seeing two point oh philosophy working its way

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<v Speaker 1>into websites. And that was years before the dot com

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<v Speaker 1>bubble burst. So it's problematic using this term. But at

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<v Speaker 1>any rate, we need to look at what actually happened,

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<v Speaker 1>like why is this term around in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because of the O'Reilly Media company. So in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand four, Tim O'Reilly who was the founder of

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<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly Media, and Dale Dougherty, who was a VP and

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<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly we're having a brainstorming session. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a an event that could really focus

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<v Speaker 1>on what makes a web company successful? Why were some

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<v Speaker 1>web companies able to survive while so many others failed,

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<v Speaker 1>What were the mistakes that the older websites made or

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<v Speaker 1>the failed websites made, and what were the success stories?

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<v Speaker 1>And so they started trying to think, well, how are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to define this, what's the what's the way

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<v Speaker 1>we create a catchy term to explain the new philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>of the web, the one that survived, And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they came up with the term web two point oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it. It was just to give a

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<v Speaker 1>name to a summit, the Web two point oh Summit,

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<v Speaker 1>which took place in two thousand four, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>several since then, but they just wanted a way to say,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the type of websites that did all right

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the dot com bubble verse. These are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that had the traits that allowed them to survive. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in general, the qualities that define web two point oh

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<v Speaker 1>are that they tend to be dynamic pages rather than

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<v Speaker 1>static ones, meaning that there's a reason for you to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at it again. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a page out of the encyclopedia

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<v Speaker 1>and it never ever changes. That makes it web two

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<v Speaker 1>point oh. Another is that there tends to be some

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<v Speaker 1>way for users to generate content and submit it to

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<v Speaker 1>the website. That may be something along the lines of blogging,

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<v Speaker 1>where the users are journaling using the web page as

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<v Speaker 1>a place for their journal to go, or it might

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<v Speaker 1>be social media site where they're just reaching out to

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<v Speaker 1>friends or sharing links or stories or jokes or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it might be something more akin to Amazon, where

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<v Speaker 1>users are able to review products that they've purchased, and

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<v Speaker 1>that adds value to Amazon because future customers can look

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<v Speaker 1>at those reviews and make judgments, and then they too

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<v Speaker 1>can contribute to this system, and that makes the whole

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<v Speaker 1>experience of using Amazon more pleasant and robust and useful

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<v Speaker 1>to both the company and the consumer. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of things that became known as the web two

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<v Speaker 1>point oh qualities, This dynamic approach with user generated content,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that could be syndicated and be sent out across

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<v Speaker 1>multiple platforms. All of that was wrapped up in this

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, it does in fact cover things

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<v Speaker 1>like social media sites. If you look back on the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline of the major social media sites, they all emerged

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<v Speaker 1>after the dot com bubble burst. There really weren't any

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<v Speaker 1>sites that kind of fall into that social media category

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<v Speaker 1>the way we think of today pre dot Com bubble burst.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them were around right around then, like live journal,

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<v Speaker 1>But even then you would you could argue live journal

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<v Speaker 1>was more of a blogging site and less of a

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<v Speaker 1>social media site. Things like friends to and MySpace and Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those emerged after the dot com bubble burst,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also embraced the philosophy of what O'Reilly was

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<v Speaker 1>calling web two point oh because those sites they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>valuable on their own. I mean, you don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook to see what Facebook has put up. You go

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<v Speaker 1>to Facebook to see what your friends are saying, or

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<v Speaker 1>to say some thing to your friends. It's the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are using the site that give it value, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big part of web two point oh it

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, it takes a lot of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>off of the person creating the website. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>make it attractive enough for people to adopt it, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you just let the people make it important and

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<v Speaker 1>you step back. Same thing is true for Twitter. Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>just facilitates communication. It's the people using Twitter that make

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<v Speaker 1>it useful. If no one had jumped on Twitter, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be around. There are other services that were similar

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter, some of which people thought were superior to Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't get adopted as quickly, and they, for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, are not around anymore. So Web two

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<v Speaker 1>point oh kind of points to this idea of embracing

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer as a an integral part of your web presence.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not just an audience, They're a contributor in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could argue that Web two point oh is

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<v Speaker 1>so much an evolution as it is just a different

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<v Speaker 1>approach to creating an experience on the web, which also

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<v Speaker 1>makes it difficult to talk about what comes next. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a web three point oh? Does that term

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<v Speaker 1>even mean anything? Now? I would argue that we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have seen more evolution on the web since O'Reilly coined

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<v Speaker 1>the web two point oh term, particularly when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to stuff like data tracking that's huge, way bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the mid two thousand's. Because of data tracking,

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<v Speaker 1>sites can customize a user's experience and serve up advertising

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<v Speaker 1>that is calculated to be more effective for that user.

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<v Speaker 1>And depending upon the implementation, data tracking can be downright scary.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out you don't have to share that

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<v Speaker 1>much data before a computer can figure out who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff that seems really general, like just a zip code

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<v Speaker 1>can be enough to narrow down just a few candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I put my zip code in and I

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<v Speaker 1>have just maybe two or three other points of data,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be enough for an algorithm to really narrow

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<v Speaker 1>down between me and maybe one or two other people

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<v Speaker 1>who I could possibly be. It's actually pretty, you know, surprising,

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<v Speaker 1>how little information you need to share for that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to happen. Also, we know that data tracking

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<v Speaker 1>can be misused, either intentionally or not. There's the story

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<v Speaker 1>about Targets sending the young woman uh some, a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman some some coupons for expected mothers, and her father

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<v Speaker 1>found out about it and was really upset at Target

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<v Speaker 1>because he thought they had misidentified her, his daughter, as

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<v Speaker 1>being pregnant. And then later on he found out that

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, she was pregnant. But the whole point of

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<v Speaker 1>that is that Target was trying to be proactive and helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>but in fact caused a ruckus. It was a little

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<v Speaker 1>too overenthusiastic of a response, as it turns out, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's largely due to data tracking. You don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to identify a person or to create a problem. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like Target new specifically who this young lady was.

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<v Speaker 1>They just identified that based upon her searches, she must

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<v Speaker 1>be pregnant. That's a problem. And we're seeing data tracking

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<v Speaker 1>used and everything from innocent or at least seemingly innocent

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>approaches like, well, you bought this one product, so here

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>are five other products that you will probably like based

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<v Speaker 1>upon your preferences that we've seen so far. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>that creepy. But there are other approaches where data tracking

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<v Speaker 1>is downright sinister, and I would argue that's a major

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<v Speaker 1>part of the web experience now, whether you're aware of

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it or not. But it's definitely something that has evolved

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<v Speaker 1>since Web two point Oh. But another real jump in

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the evolution of the Web comes to us because of

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<v Speaker 1>mobile devices. Now, O'Reilly recognized the importance of mobile devices

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all the way back in two thousand four. O'Riley Media

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<v Speaker 1>said that interoperability was one of the features of Web

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>two point one of the cornerstones of the philosophy, meaning

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that you should be able to access this web page

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple platforms, whether it's a computer or a mobile

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>device of some sort or something else. Now, in two

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand and four, there were really not that many devices

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that you could use to connect to the Web, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a meaningful way. A lot of the phones that

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>were out there were more like, you know, they have

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>text browsers for the web, so you could read some

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>text on certain web pages, it was pretty limited. It

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until the smartphone really took off here in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. That means it was after the introduction of

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone that you really started seeing that. So you

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>get to a point now where more and more people

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<v Speaker 1>are using mobile devices to access the web. I meant

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<v Speaker 1>that web developers had to make sure they were paying

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<v Speaker 1>closer attention to the mobile experience because if they ignored it,

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<v Speaker 1>then a larger portion of their audience was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get upset with how how clunky or unpleasant it was

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to access the website using a mobile device. And in fact,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's more important than ever now. Uh, just recently, we've

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>seen mobile browsing outpace desktop browsing. In other words, more

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>more website visits are coming from mobile devices than desktop computers.

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>That happened for the first time about a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more than a year ago, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that more people are using mobile devices to access

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<v Speaker 1>the web. Now, that doesn't mean that people have slacked

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<v Speaker 1>off of using desktop computers or laptops. People still are

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<v Speaker 1>using those devices. In fact, if you look at the trends,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they're still increasing year over year. So in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>fifth teen, there are more people accessing the web on

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.959
<v Speaker 1>desktops than there were in two thousand fourteen. It's just

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that the growth of mobile devices has skyrocketed, so it

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>has outpaced the growth of desktops, so both of them

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>are up. It's just mobile devices have increased much faster

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>than desktop has. But that means you have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the experience that your customers have. Your audience

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>has both on mobile and on desktop. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that it is attractive and usable and that

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>people are able to get the experience they want depending up.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, no matter what platform they happen to be using,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a tablet or a smartphone, or a console

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>or uh desktop computer, it needs to be a satisfying experience.

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So I would argue that is now really a defining

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<v Speaker 1>feature of the web, And if I had to define

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>web three point oh, I'd likely argue that it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with both the data tracking and the mobile

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>devices more than pretty much anything else. But web experiences

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>are becoming more customized to the individual browsers, so that

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>could mean that one day will move into the era

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of the semantic web. Now the semantic web is where

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>your experience will be very much personalized, and the web

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>itself will understand what it is you want to see

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>based upon context, word choice, your preferences, all of these

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>things that are wrapped up in things like data tracking

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and understanding of natural language, that kind of stuff. We're

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of development in that area. So maybe

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>one day we'll have a semantic web where when I

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about surfing the web and when you talk about

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>serving the web, it will be two very different stories

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>because of our different styles. That's a possibility, but I

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>also think it's really likely we're gonna see the web

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>experience fracture as more services attempt to leverage various platforms.

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Now what do I mean by that. It's starting to

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm talking business talk. But here's the simple

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>example that I'll use to illustrate my point. Think about Netflix.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>So Netflix streaming has seen a ton of success over

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the past few years. Put aside their their library of

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>movies and television series, which obviously I mean, that's that's problematic,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>but the adoption of Netflix has been phenomenal, and I

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>would argue that our large reason for that is because

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you weren't limited to computers or mobile devices to access Netflix.

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>You can access it on set top boxes, on video

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>game consoles, and more. Pretty much if the device was

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>capable of connecting to the internet. Netflix made sure it

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>could have some kind of platform on that device. They

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get on everything they possibly could, and it

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>meant that they had widespread adoption. Beyond that, they were

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>really smart on the back end, built out a system

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>so that you could have a kind of seamless experience

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>moving from one device to another. So if I start

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>watching a movie under my Netflix account on my laptop computer,

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and then I come home and I turn on my

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>video game console and I launched my Netflix app, I

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>can pick up where I left off because on the

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>back end, it's tracking everything. The same is true for

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>other services like YouTube. It's another great example. There are

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>YouTube smartphone apps and tablet apps and video game console apps,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and uh, that's the same sort of thing. My experience

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on one can translate over to another, so that I

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>can keep on building out this profile of what I like,

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and YouTube will continuously suggest other videos that are similar

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to ones that I've really enjoyed, which might be why

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I have so many videos of dogs on skateboards or

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that could just be coincidence. I don't really understand how

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it works behind the scenes at any rate. It's really

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me that that could potentially be the new era.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not so much a Web three point oh as

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it could be a let's, you know, let's look at

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>how we can make our service across all different platforms

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>so people can access it however they want, and that

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>goes beyond Web. In fact, Web might be too limited

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 1>a term to use for that sort of thing, which

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>means we kind of need a new term for it.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>We need to come up with a word that explains

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>this particular world one where you have these services that

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>go across all sorts of platforms, allowing you to access

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it however you like. And I think I've come up

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 1>with a name. I'm calling it Frank. Frank's nice name.

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Robin Day's got a hedgehog called Frank. But seriously, I'd

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>rather just kind of ditch the web two point oh

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>term altogether, which might be a moot point. I don't

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>know that anyone's still talking about web two point oh. Seriously,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a non term at this point, but

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to just erase it because I think Web

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>two point I was too confusing a term. I think

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it misled people. It it compares the web to things

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like software patches or software versions, and that's not accurate. Um,

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I really wish we could come up with a different

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 1>phrase for that particular idea that doesn't suggest an evolution,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>because it really was kind of a divergent path, not

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>so much that one evolved into the other, but one

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>approach was more successful than the other. But I'm not

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>in charge of such things, so I guess web two

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>point I was what will end up calling it forever,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>even if we're just talking about the past. But what

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>do you guys think was the term web two point

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>oh ever really relevant? Do you think I'm totally off

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>base here? And what would you call the current era

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of the web what we have right now? Would that

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>be web three point or would you prefer to call

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>it something else? Do you have a thing in mind?

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