1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Order was a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, It's all rights, 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: the honorable Kikiliko. Okay, take it away, judge. Oh yeah, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: your honor. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: With my new gavel, I'm gonna go ahead and hit 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: that boom. Let's get into this case, it says, Hey, Kiki, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: I know I may get judged harshly, but I'm hoping 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: that there are people out there that can give insight 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: on what I'm going through. My childhood best friend had 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: a baby by my husband. I made the choice to 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: stick with my husband and work out our marriage, and 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: although it happened six years ago, I am still dealing 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: with the repercussions of his mistake. After I found out 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: about the affair, my ex best friend moved away and 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: we hadn't heard from her for the last six years, 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: no communication at all, until last month, when she popped 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: up on my doorstep and asked my husband and I 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: to take custody of the child. Her reason she was 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: battling a sobriety issue and could no longer care for 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: their son. So my husband quickly agreed, and the boy 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: has been living with us for the last month. However, 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: I never wanted children, and I especially never wanted to 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: raise an a fair baby. Am I wrong for asking 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: my husband to find another option for their son? 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Wow? 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: I know I've been. I'm stressed. 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean why you just bring that on us 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: on like a just a wow, oh on a random 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't expect. 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Is very heavy, Yes, very very heavy. And I think 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: you are wrong. You know, I think you are wrong. 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: You made the decision to stick with your husband, and 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: making that decision, you accepted his. 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: Reality, which is he is a father of a child. 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Now you've been in Delululand for the last six years 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: and you all have had no responsibility to this child. 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: But now that the responsibility is in your face, you 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: want the child to be relocated from his living parent. 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: I think you need to pack your bags if this 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: is how you feel, and leave your husband and let 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: him raise his son and you go find someone who 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: is on the same type of time you're on, which 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: is you don't want to kid around. But it's not 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: fair to the child that you've accepted to stay with 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: your husband. But you don't want to accept his mistake, 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, lack of better words, but the mistake that 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: came with it, that's not right. You can't find another 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: place for the sun to go. No, you find another 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: place for you to go. 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I mean they made a promise to 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: one another. If you buy into that till death do 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: his part, and you know he he made an error 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: if you want to call it that an indiscretion in 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: their marriage. This is the result. So this is the 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: hand that they're dealt exactly, And he's doing the right 55 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: thing because I mean, he should have been I don't 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: know why he wasn't involved from day one. He should 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: have been involved from day one exactly. So this should 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: have been something that they had done together for years 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: in some capacity. Why he wasn't, I don't know. Maybe 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: because of her I. 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Mean, and she said the best friend moved away, you know, 62 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: she moved away and they had she had no contact 63 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: with him after the affair was revealed. So you guys 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: failed the child on that end as well, because he 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: was now denied a father for the last six years. However, 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: and now the reality has hit and you you know, 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: your husband has to step up and be a father. 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: You can't ask for the child to be relocated somewhere 69 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: if anyone's. 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Going anywhere to Yeah, I agree, I agree eight five 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: five one of three five You got to the jury, 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: of course, But. 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's hard. I've never been married, 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: so I don't know what an affair feels like. Let 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: alone with your best friend and there's a child that 76 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: comes from it, I'm sure that's hard, sis, But it's 77 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: been six years. 78 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Well, and she decided to stay with them, and easier 79 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: said than done. But with that would have to come forgiveness, right, 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: and the possibility and hopefully the acceptance that that child's 81 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: going to be a part of their lives. And I 82 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: don't know what happened the first six years, but where's 83 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: the kid supposed to go? 84 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: Exactly? 85 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, she's saying, like maybe to the 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: grandparents or I mean, at this point, I'll take the 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: kid because what I don't want is for the kids 88 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: to be raised in a household with someone who doesn't 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: love him, you know, And that's the worst. Like he 90 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: didn't ask to be here, he didn't ask to be 91 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: put in this situation. And a lot of times parents 92 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: are you know, step parents are put into a new 93 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: place with kids and they don't necessarily like the kid. 94 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: The kids can feel that. So if you're not gonna 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: love the kids, then get away from you. 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: She's got to go because I heard this long time ago. 97 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: It was a long long time ago, changed my perspective 98 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: on everything. It had to do. It was it was 99 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: some talk show something and it was one of the 100 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: politicians who had cheated. And it gets to this whole 101 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: conversation about like, why do you stay married if you 102 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: have a family. Do you stay married for the kids, 103 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 1: or do you stay married for the spouse or really, 104 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: more importantly, bless you, who is more important in a relationship? 105 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Your spouse are your kids? And I feel like the 106 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: right answer optically is to say your kids, My kids 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: are the most important thing. But I don't think that's 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: the right answer. I think your spouse is the most 109 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: important thing. That being said, this guy has an obligation now, right, 110 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: So the kid isn't necessarily more important than her, But 111 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: she isn't going to accept that this is a part 112 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: of him, right, which means that it's dysfunctional from the top, 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: which means that it needs to end exactly because I 114 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: would normally argue, you got to take care of the 115 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: base relationship first, you got to take care of the 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: marriage first, and foremost, and the kids will will And 117 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the kids are like a far second. 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: I just think that the kids then will wind up 119 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: having a better chance at a good existence if mom 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: and dad are happy. Yes, But in this particular case, 121 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't think she's ever going to come around. She's 122 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: already saying get rid of the kid, So that's already flawed. 123 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: The dad has an obligation to his child. The wife 124 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: has an obligation to her husband if she forgave him right, 125 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: So this is just a package deal. Now it has 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: to be the package. 127 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't And it seems like to me you're 128 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: taking out your resentment for your husband's affair on your 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: ex best friend and the child. Where's the responsibility that 130 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: should follow on your husband who that's who you had 131 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: vows with. Yes, you're my best friend, but you and 132 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: I took about again, So my loyalty should be to 133 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: you and I, Between you and I. I shouldn't look 134 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: to my best friend and hold her completely accountable for 135 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: this whole situation. Like your husband has some fault in 136 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: this as well, and this is just a part of 137 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: what he the decision he made. And now, if you're 138 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: going to stick around. You need to love this. 139 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: Child like it's not the child. 140 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: He's got to go, he's him and a child have 141 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: to go before because there's no way that woman is 142 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: that that kid has no chance with that woman like 143 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: just a spie. You know, how do we get rid 144 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: of him? Right? Or is it him? How do you 145 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: know if they were to stay and be like, yo, 146 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I know where you came from. You know what I'm 147 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: saying from this, I don't like the attitude from the 148 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: very beginning. Hey Karen, Hi, Karen, good morning? Hey, what 149 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: say you? I would say that this woman has to go? 150 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: You know, she should have gone six years ago when 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: he's an affair and a kid and everything that was. 152 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: Why is she complaining now, well. 153 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: They should have been involved in the past six years. 154 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if if they if he wasn't 155 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: involved because she said he couldn't be, which I then 156 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: we have to look at him a little bit and say, 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: at what point does his obligation as the father come 158 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: before her desire not to want to have a child, 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Because again she has the choice to leave, but she 160 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: chose to forgive him, and in forgiving him, this is 161 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: this is a new reality exactly, and then she knew 162 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: about the kid. The kid is here, he is not 163 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: going anywhere. She's not the. 164 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: Kids, paul So she was gone, Yes, I agree. 165 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I agree, Thank you Karen. You have a good day. 166 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 167 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like I said, I would say, normally, 168 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, you try and the relationship, the husband and 169 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: wife relationship has got to be sound. But she's already 170 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: saying basically, there's no way. There's no way. 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: And I just say that for six years, she's been 172 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: able to live in this delusion, like maybe she's made 173 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: herself believe that this didn't really happen, or that there was. 174 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: No child that came from this relationship. She blocked it out. 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't do that, Like you have to 176 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: accept everything that comes with this man in his affair, so. 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Or don't or don't or don't. But he has an 178 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: obligation to this child. 179 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: That's it. 180 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: He should get back with the other woman, help her 181 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: through sobriety, and then raise that kid. 182 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: We get message woman, and I don't want to sound 183 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: its sensitive to her situation. Can you imagine your best 184 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: your childhood best friend, having a baby with your husband. 185 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: No, I can't, Pauline, When were we in jail, girl. 186 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: All of us. 187 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: I can't imagine the trauma that would come from that, 188 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: but no. 189 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I'd be long gone. Honestly, if if it were being 190 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: really honest, I don't know that I could forgive that. 191 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 192 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: And I think that you guys just go live your 193 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: life and raise this child together, because I don't. I 194 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: don't know that I that as she's mem but I 195 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: certainly would not make somebody if I chose to forgive them, 196 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: then I have to accept everything that comes with that, 197 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. It wouldn't be I would never say 198 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: to that person. Will No, we're not doing that right. 199 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: The kid has to go somewhere else. I don't know. 200 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Not my problem. It is your problem now, it is. 201 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: And girl, you just got to accept that reality. I'm 202 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: so sorry. I mean, I know it hurts. 203 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: You. 204 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Gotta look at the kid every day. 205 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: Said they came in late the kiki, Yes, give us 206 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: a thirty second. 207 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: Went to my courtroom late, apologize your honor? 208 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, recap. So this so a woman is reaching 209 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: out to you because her husband cheated on her with 210 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: her best friend and got her pregnant. Yes, six years ago. 211 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: The woman the best friend and the kid. They go off, 212 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: moved away, and they don't have any role in that 213 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: child's life. The woman then comes back and says, hey, 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: I can't raise him. I'm having issues on my own. 215 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: You need to raise him. So now the husband's like, 216 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: well okay, I'm in, and the wife is going, hey, 217 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: we I never agreed to the kids, so I'm I 218 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: want we don't I want out? 219 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Basically, well, she's not saying she wants that, she wants 220 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: the kid. She said, can we find somewhere else for 221 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: this kids to go? 222 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: So no? Bye? No, I mean this is I feel 223 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: like this is like a unanimous court decision. 224 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Exist. 225 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, bang your gavel again. 226 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: Oh there we go. 227 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Just open a shut just like that problem solve. See 228 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: you later, late, lady. Yeah yeah, that's sounded menacing, didn't it. 229 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: See you later, lady? You take that? Yeah? Bye, But 230 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: you didn't see that one coming, did you. How we 231 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: lost the listener and maybe we gain three I'm not sure. 232 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: The kid and then the other two. Rupie over here 233 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: is saying go get with her now,