1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Donkey up today. Damn he hogged. It's time for donkey. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: I me ain't trying to beat donkey today, no more. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: not making the usday called donkey of the day, and 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: it really caught me off guard. Damned Charlamagne who got 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: the donkey out of the day today, Wild jets Hilarians 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Donkey today for Wednesday, October eleventh goes to the Huntsville 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Madison County Public Library in Huntsville, Alabama. Salute to everybody 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: who listens to us in Alabama. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: We're on one O four to one to beat in. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: Birmingham, hot one O seven five in Montgomery, and one 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: O seven three to beaten Mobile Mobile Mobile Mobile dropping 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: the clues bombs for Alabama. 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Now y'all know I love reading. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Thank you to my mother, who was an English teacher 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: in South Carolina and for the Bookkeet program for fueling 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: my hunger to read. My mother would always tell me 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: to read things that don't pertain to me, and the 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: Bookeet program was a game changer for a teenage mutant 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: ninja turtle like myself. I'm fully aware that I look 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: like I could be cast in a live remake of 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: The Ninja Turtles myself Jeezy Jadakiss Neo teenage mutant Nigga Turtles. 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: See when you. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Love pizza, hot pizza, and you love to read, and 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: your mom tells you to read things that don't pertain 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: to you, and you have. 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: To read four books to get a free pizza. Reading 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: things that don't pertain to you makes that easy. Okay. 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: That's why I love. 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: Judy Bloom and all her works. Okay, that's why I 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: love Judy Bloom and all her works the way that 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: I do. Okay, I'm saying all that to say I 33 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: love reading. I love books. I'm a New York Times 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: bestselling offer. I have two books out, Black Privilege and 35 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Shook One. 36 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Can you see them? Can you see them on the camera? 37 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Nick should grabbing you got here Black Privilege? You come 38 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: back to the microphone. 39 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Black Privilege is right here, Shook One is right here. Okay, Okay, 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: I have a bookend print, Black Privilege Publishing with Shaman. 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: The shues to feel free to purchase to meet a 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Mallory state of emergency, and they need to copac shallow waters. 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh we got throws in I got a book too. 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I got a book to hold on, hold on, hold on, 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, come back to the microphone. 46 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: See to meek A Mallory, Steve Emergency, Ineda, Kopex, Shallow Waters. 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Those are the first. If you got a book, real life, 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Real Love. 49 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, suit to Doug Melville, in Visible General's out November seven, 50 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: if you can reorder that. 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Now. 52 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying all that to let you know how much 53 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: I love books. Okay, this one, I'm let me share 54 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: what I'm reading right now. Hold on, you see this 55 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Don Miguel Ruise's new book. Okay, just finished this, Rich 56 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: Paul Lucky Me. 57 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm never not reading. I love reading. 58 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: My wife loves reading and it's infectious. My kids love reading. 59 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: I have three bookshelves in my house. I'm telling you 60 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: all this to paint the picture of how much I 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: love books, because I want you to know how it 62 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: pains me to see all these books and authors being 63 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: banned all around the country. I'm from South Carolina, Okay, 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: where the first anti literacy laws were passed. 65 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: It was prohibited to teach slaves to read and write. 66 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: So when you see me having the love for books 67 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: that I do, when you see me so deep in 68 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: the book business. 69 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Understand it's personal. 70 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: So stories like what's happening at the Huntsfield Madison County 71 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Public Library really grind my gear. See they banning books. 72 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: They have a list of potentially inappropriate type. Now, I've 73 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: never agreed with this kind of censorship, because everything is subjective. 74 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Do you know that Judy Bloom is one of the 75 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: most banned authors of the twentieth century? 76 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Judy Bloom? Are you there? Goddess me Margaret blubba Iggy's 77 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: house band? 78 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: Because some culturally clueless fool labeled her potentially dangerous. I 79 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: don't get it, don't understand it, just like I don't 80 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: understand what the Huntsville Madison County Public Library is doing. 81 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: See they added a children's picture book titled read Me 82 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: a Story Stella to a list of potentially inappropriate titles. Now, 83 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: what could be in this picture book that's potentially dangerous? 84 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: Is it humans riding on a penis shaped horse? De 85 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: writing Derby if you will? Is it a little sexy 86 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: red riding hood taking big bad wolves to Pound Town? 87 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: Did Jack and Jill go up to hill to fetch 88 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: Somley and Purcoces? What could be in this children's book 89 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: that is potentially dangerous. Let's go to the news report. 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Read Me a Story Stella, a children's book by author 91 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: Marie Louise Gay, appear to the Public Library keyword search 92 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: list of potentially inappropriate material. It's because of the author's 93 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: last name Gay. This prompted a backlash against the library, 94 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: which insists it was a mistake and an exclusive ARKI 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: McCoy's book with executive director Cindy Hewitt. 96 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Read Me a Story Seller, which seems to be what 97 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: everybody's focused on, was a book that was just on 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: a keyword search list. It has never been banned, moved, 99 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: or touched in the library, is still sitting where it's 100 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: supposed to do. 101 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: So. We were examining our collection to see if our 102 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: materials were in age appropriate categories. The communication was done 103 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: at the managerial level, was passed down through staff, and 104 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: in that conversation from managers to staff is where communication 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: broke down and the intent and the purpose. 106 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: Was misrepresented. 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: That was Fox fifty four, by the way. 108 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: So the answer to watching the book that is potentially 109 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: dangerous is nothing. The book is about a pant siblings 110 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: reading together and building a dog out the reason the 111 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: book was lifted potentially dangerous was because of the author's 112 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: last name, Marie Ease Gay. Yes, it was added to 113 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: the list of potentially dangerous books because the author's last 114 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: name was Gay. Okay, that's it, nothing more, nothing less. 115 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Can we unpack this if the author's last name being 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: gay is considered potentially dangerous and I know this library 117 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: don't carry the memoir. 118 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Of Dick Buckets. 119 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: Okay, this former New England patriot Dick Felt have a 120 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: memoir I know that would be considered potentially dangerous. What 121 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: about a man the Love? A man the Love will 122 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: never have a book in this library? 123 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 124 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: Banning books is never acceptable. We need more conversations now. 125 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: We need folks reading about different ideologies that individuals have. 126 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Stephen Schuboski says banning books gives us silence when we 127 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: need speech. It closes our ears when we need to listen. 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: It makes us blind when we need sight. And I 129 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: agree not to mention. If a public school were to 130 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: remove every book that contains one word deemed objectional objectionable 131 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: to some random person, then there would. 132 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Be no books at all in our public libraries. 133 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: If you ask me, they didn't ban this book because 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: the word gay is considered sexually inappropriate. They banned this 135 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: book because this woman is an author. Her last name 136 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: is Gay. And I believe every single public library in 137 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: a red state probably has all of the great Roxanne 138 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: Gay's work band dropping the cloth bombs for Roxanne Gay. 139 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: All right, this isn't about sexuality as much as it's 140 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: about banning one of the greatest authors, professors social comment. 141 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: As we got on this third Rock from the Sun, 142 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: don't say gay takes on a whole other meaning in 143 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: public libraries, all right. They don't want you reading a 144 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: bad feminists in Roxanne Gay's other works. Okay, look, man, 145 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: read all the banned books you can. All right, let 146 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: your children read all the band books you can. My 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: daddy used to say, if you want to hide something 148 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: from a black person, put it in a book. We've 149 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: bend deified that stereotype that black people don't read, and 150 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: now that they know we actually read, they just want 151 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: to hide the books. So go read all the band 152 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: books you can. And remember this quote from Oscar Wilde. 153 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: The books that the world calls emorl are the books 154 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: that show the world. 155 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: Its own shame. 156 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: The books that tell the truth of America, that hold 157 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: Emerita America and shows America what it needs to be 158 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: inbarrassed about. Please give this Huntsville Madison County Public Library 159 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: in Huntsville, Alabama, the biggest he huh m. 160 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: M m mmmm. 161 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 6: All right, well thank you for that donkey today, sir. 162 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. 163 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: Now when we come back, well peace, B E, T 164 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 6: B T. 165 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: We see you later. Everybody else. 166 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 6: Sonya will be joining us. She has a new book 167 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 6: called Fashion Killer. Do you know Sonya's last name? 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to mess with Christa Murphy, Sonya, Christanna Murphy, 169 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Christna Murphy. 170 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and Sonya used. 171 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: To host the TV show together back in the day 172 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: on MTV called Hip Hop POV. It was me Sonya, 173 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Boo Acon's brother Boo, Amanda Seals, Debbie Brown. 174 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's it, oh me, Yeah, it 175 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: was five of us. I know, I think like it 176 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: was five of us. Who was the fifth person? Me Doug? 177 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 6: Yes, Well, she has a new book out today called 178 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 6: Fashion Killer, and we're going to talk to her when 179 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: we come back, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, 180 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: Good morning, the Breakfast Clove