1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: All right, guys, this is your post Christmas podcast. Um, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Katherine and I are here, and we are pumped because 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: who are we talking to today? Catherine? Emma Hernan. I'm 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: so excited. She's on Selling Sunset, one of my favorite shows. 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I just bingeed it last weekend. I'm so excited to 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: talk to her because I'm a little backed up. But um, 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: she's actually on right now, so we're gonna go a 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: little out of order. Um, so let's talk to her 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: and let's get her on. Hey, Emma, Hi, how are 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: you good? How are you? Ben? Really good? So? I know, Um, 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: so you're you just had your first season on Selling Sunset? 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: So were you? Because I didn't, I unfortunate? Did you 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I did, because I have not 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: caught up like I've been, Like, so I was. So 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm so back with all my shows because of like 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: holidays and kids and stuff. But like so, I'm like 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: so excited to meet your character. But what did you 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: get from Emma? Well, I just binged it and it 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: was great. I know. I do I want all of 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I want all of it. Yeah, Well, I don't know. 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin because there's mean 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: so nice Okay, so she's involved drama. She's involved in drama, right, yes, 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: So who's who's nicer, Krishal or Emma because it doesn't 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: like the nice one. Like that's how I've always like 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: perceived her. Yeah, but they're different, They're they're different. Are 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: you all friends on the show? Yeah? My girl? So 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I love her? Okay, yeah, no, I love both of them. 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Y'all are my two favorite. Don't anybody else, um, don't worry. 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Just a couple hundred thousand people. Okay, So I guess 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: where do we even start? So just to kind of 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: catch you up, there's drama with her and Christine Christine right, yeah, 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: I feel like she has drama with everybody, right. But 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: that's what I don't understand too, because I will say, 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: I know that they have to have that character on 36 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: a show. I get it, But at the same time, 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: like I just feel like she's you can still be nice, 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, I just feel 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: like she doesn't care about anyone, has like no empathy. 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: That's like what I got from her, Like she just 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have empathy or care about other people's feelings. Am 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: I off on that? Or no, oh no, you're pretty 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: dead on okay. I mean I tell it like it is, 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: so I keep it one hundred. But yeah, I just 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: don't understand what do you think it is? Like? Is 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: it like a childhood trauma or is it like, hey, 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: just like she just wants to win and doesn't care 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: who she stomps on like to get there. It could 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: be both. I really don't know the reasoning behind it. 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand it at all. And I mean, it's 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: one thing to be like kind of okay, make it 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: a little bitchy remarks and stuff like that. It's another 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: thing to take it to the level that she takes it. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: You know. That's how I feel. All the girls feel 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: the same, you know, I think every single person feels 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: the exact same. Why But do you think that producers 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: are like keep going like cause the drama, because like, 58 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to have a show without any drama. 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: I get that for short, And I think producers, of 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: course they need, you know, kind of the billing character, 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: but she does the work on your own. They're not like, 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, she takes it to the next level, to 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: the point where they're like, did that just happen? You know? 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean it makes for great TV for sure, but 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: this is actually a real live so we have to 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: deal with with this, you know. So that's unfortunate, right, 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: What what's been the most hurtful thing that you're kind 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: of like that's like stayed with you from Christine? Well, 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: you know for years. You know, I had to deal 70 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: with I mother. She's banging on my windows. I mean 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: you obviously know the story, but you know, banging on 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: my windows and d NS, I mean driving by peper class, 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: beeping the horn, almost hitting my friend. I mean, it's 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: still a level where you know it's it's not head 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: but why oh we have we share mutual acts, Okay, 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: is my best friend and I share like well, it 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: is very similar situation. However, she's basically they're telling two 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: different stories. I'm not going to outright say, but they 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: are basically telling two different who who had him first? 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: She dated him before me? So are you saying like 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: that you were like the mistress that came in. No, 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean they had been broken up, she wasn't taking 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: the break up well, and she knew about a girl 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: that he was seeing right before me. You know, I 85 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: didn't know about any of the girls, so he should 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: have shared that with me, for sure. Guys will be guys. 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Don't agree with their behavior. Guys, you guys. But you know, unfortunately, 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: she's the type of person where takes it out on 89 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the girl that had no idea about her, you know 90 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. But they weren't together anyways, it was irrelevant, 91 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: she says that they were together. Yeah, of course, I mean, 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: none of her fact. Oh she made up a full 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: loan engage that never copped. What does he say to it? 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Are you still together? No, we're not still together, but 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: we're friendly and we're he's still friends and like basically 96 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: everyone he's best friend. Oh my god, you guys broke up? 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Was it like because he did something bad or No, honestly, 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: we didn't break up because he's cheating or anything like that. 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: We just honestly wanted different things at the time. You know, 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm super family oriented and loved kids and stuff like that, 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: So it was more of like, I don't know if 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: our like futures a line, but we're still totally fine. 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: We have to do business together and we're fine friends. 104 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: So right, But yeah, also really interesting, So she had 105 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: had a baby? Who did Christine with? Who? Her husband? 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: She's married? I don't know, she's I don't remember her. 107 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: I don't really either. Um, but she's like two weeks 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: after having a baby full glam had just had a 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: c section, but does not look like she had a baby. 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's so do you think she like 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: had a surrogate? I don't know. There's a lot of 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of kins talk out there, but I mean, 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty unbelievable. I will say, Okay, I'm gonna 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate just because people were so mean when 115 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: a post baby for me, They're like, oh, you look 116 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, am I supposed to be ashamed that 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I look good two weeks after having a baby? Yeah? 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the whole one way or the others. 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that you're wrong, and I'm 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily mom shaming. I mean, she's she's a skinny. 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I know you're not. I'm just it was, by the way, 122 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: we're best friend. I love that my best friend. I 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: love it. Anyway, I just saw a lot of talk 124 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: about that. It's been interesting to watch because people are 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: like whoa, she just had a baby. But anyway, yes, 126 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: you did get crap for that too. You're right, so 127 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: I'll back off. I'm just saying, Okay. The only thing 128 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: that like, I kind of want to that I'm still 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: stuck on is the fact that she was because here's 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the deal. I like kind of said about someone that 131 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I was dating, and I found out that it was 132 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: a girl that he had been with. And it's like, 133 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: when someone is done with a relationship, why do you 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: feel like you have to go to the girl and 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: then like say these things about the guy you know 136 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: to be like and I'm just kind of like, you like, 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: is it a jealousy thing? Is it just like because 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: you're not They're like, we're warning you, and I'm like, well, 139 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: then give me evidence of that. I don't please. I 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: welcome it. I've always welcomed it. I'm not going to 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: be a dumb naive girl. I like, I welcome anything 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: that you want to bring to me. But they're just like, oh, 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: you were so insecure for not you know, And I 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm just smart because I'm asking for 145 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: physical proof something. No. I mean, yeah, I mean. The 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: unfortunate thing is is you know, this was a relationship, 147 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: first of all, for that was five years ago. So 148 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: why more than so, why you're married with a baby. 149 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: Why is this still even an issue or something that 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: you're concerned about? That's my Have you asked her that? Uh, 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: you don't. It's one of interaction. You see the interaction 152 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: you guys get to see the interaction we have on camera. 153 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Than that, I have the only need to be around 154 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: somebody like that. Work could not be more polar opposite, 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: like completely different ends of the spectrum. So which you 156 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: know why because we were talking a few episodes ago 157 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: where it's like at our age, I don't know how 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: old you are, but it's like at our age, it's 159 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: like nourished nurture. I guess the relationships that you know 160 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: are the most important too, and the other ones like 161 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: don't don't let the drama and the chaos and all 162 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: the other stuff come in because it's not like why 163 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's literally no point. Fine, make a 164 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: TV about it. But then also like one day to 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: be like you know what, like she's obviously jealous, but 166 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: also at the same time, it's it happened a long 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: time ago. You she's obviously moved on your Where are 168 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: you dating again? I'm dating again. I'm single, but I'm 169 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: dating again. Dating so hard. Oh, it's a fol it's 170 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: a job. Honestly, I'm taking a break. G it's a job, 171 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: but it's so freaking hard. I was just like, because 172 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: I've because you have to just like you know, when 173 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: you start hearing about people's past and like then you 174 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: have to explain yours, and it's just like, oh my god, 175 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Like it's just like seeing what you can deal with 176 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and what you can't do with with the next person, 177 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: because like everyone's going to have Like that's why my girlfriend, 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: she's like, Janet, You're not going to find a unicorn 179 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: who has never been married, who doesn't have trauma, who 180 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have you know, maybe has never cheated before, because 181 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: I have like a big thing with you know, because 182 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: my ex had cheated on me. So it's like now 183 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I kind of like a guy that 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: hasn't cheated before. But I'm like, is that even possible? 185 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know, And they say 186 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: that they haven't, but really they have, you know, they're 187 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: just not caught in that moment that I'm coming to 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: get away. That's no. I've never cheated. I've never looked 189 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: at another girl when I've been dating someone and I 190 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: think that they're Yeah, and I do think that there 191 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: are good guys out there like your husband. I don't 192 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: think you would ever freaking cheat ever. But I'm just 193 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: saying like, at like, you know, thirty eight years old, 194 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not going to meet this like he's 195 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: probably going to be divorced and there's gonna be a 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: reason that he was maybe like him and his wife 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: had issues because he was not while at communicating or whatever. Well, 198 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: that's also dating at thirty eight years old. I know 199 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: there's a big difference. There's a big difference than when 200 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: we got married. Something. You could also find a really 201 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: great guy that like the wife was a little nuts, 202 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: because like, come on, let's be girls are clearly nuts. 203 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: We all saw its. Sorry, I mean girls can be 204 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: nuts too, and then you know, maybe topic guys. No, 205 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: it's true, I know, are you and Riya? Yes, I 206 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: went on there a few months ago and I was 207 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: just like, it's so crazy because there's so many guys 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: in l A that I knew because I still have 209 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: in l A for like ten plus years and it's 210 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: the same guys. They're still there and like the same 211 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: guys are going to be just I know. I was 212 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: just like, oh god, I can't do this. I just 213 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: can't like it, went on a date with him, don't like, 214 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: but he's on there, okay, right, Um we brought up 215 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the kid point and I think, how old are you? 216 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: By the way? Okay, And because I'm friendly with Krishell 217 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and um, we've had her on the podcast when she 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: was actually married to Justin and then I had her 219 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked since, um, like the Kio split, 220 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: and I first of all, I loved how did you hear? Damn? 221 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean her DM but her message her in feet 222 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: about like you know, it was so yeah, it was 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: like so beautifully said, but it was also like to 224 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: what I made what like I made up with that 225 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: was that like he didn't want kids and she did. 226 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking, and you know, kind of to 227 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: your point too. I don't know if that was the 228 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: same situation why you why you and your ex broke up? 229 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: But it's like I'm I'm proud of her for not 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: saying in something that like I didn't serve her and 231 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: that like that's not what she wants to obviously to 232 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: have kids. I don't know. Again, I'm just making this up, 233 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: So no, no, for sure, you know, I feel like 234 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: she's very open and honest about that, and you know, 235 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: they we do love and pack each other, like I mean, 236 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I wish that I have a relationship put end that way, 237 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But of course it's heartbreaking 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: because it's hard, Like, you know, there's not a ton 239 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: wrong with the relationship. There's just people want different things, 240 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about it, but it actually 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: does happen, you know, yeah, well, and especially with them 242 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: working together, like thank goodness that it ended. I mean, 243 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: I would imagine they probably can you know, go forward 244 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: in a working relationship and be you know, okay, thank you. Yeah. 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: And I remember like someone was like, oh, this is 246 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: just for publicity for the show, and I'm like, Krishell, 247 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: like her heart and like how she looks. I don't 248 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: think it's for I didn't think it was play out 249 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, so but maybe like people are 250 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna want to watch it now to see how But 251 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, like I didn't. I didn't. I 252 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think Krishell would ever do that? Truly, 253 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: you would never do that. I mean wears her heart 254 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: and her sleep. She's like one of my favorite people 255 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: in the entire world. She would never do anything for publicity. 256 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean they had the most special relationship in the 257 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: entire world. They were genuinely in love, you know, and 258 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: for them to open up about it, you know, proved 259 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: how much they really cared about each other. You know. 260 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Question for you, would you be friends with your ex's girlfriend? 261 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Kind of like how like Christine so how she was 262 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: being to you know, to you, would you be friends 263 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: with When your ex gets a new girlfriend? Would you 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: be friends with her? I feel like I would be. 265 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a jealous person. I'm a super sweet, like 266 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: caring person, and I feel like, honestly, I would really 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: have a problem with it as long as you know, 268 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: things ended somewhat sadly. Obviously even think that they're never like, 269 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: oh my god, super great. But at the same time, 270 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: if it wasn't something that that you know, my family 271 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: was affected by or something like that, then yeah, I 272 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: mean I would be friends or whoever. Keep So That's 273 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: why I'm like, if I didn't dislike my ex so much, 274 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: i'd be like, I want you in my extant date. 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: But like, I'm just saying, like you would like your 276 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: ex to be with someone someone who I like and 277 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: like who I can like be like girl, like I 278 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: get let's go get a drink of wine. Glass of wine. 279 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: The problem is is if you like them and you 280 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: don't want them to be with your ex. No, But 281 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: because I you know, I think people like I hope 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: that people can like change and stuff. But you know, 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: and and again, I think people are different versions of 284 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: themselves with like like I am a totally different version 285 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: than I was with and I'm going to be a 286 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: different version in my next relationship because you know, I 287 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: won't have all this resentment and hate and you know whatever. 288 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: So I mean it would be nice because I'm like, Okay, 289 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I could just like there should 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: be a show where the ex wife gets to pick 291 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: the new wife. I think that's great because it's like 292 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna be around my kids, you know what I mean. 293 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I want to be the one to 294 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: pick and be like, Okay, this girl is mature, she's beautiful, 295 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: she's fun. The kids love her, Like like I think 296 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: it's a great idea. Yeah, and I get to pick 297 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: like three girls that he can choose from. Yeah exactly, 298 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean he could pick Curry, but there's three that 299 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: that have been approved. I mean, I'm here. I always 300 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: think it's so fun when like the Axes do stuff 301 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: together with the kids. I'm like, wow, Like if that 302 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: happens to me, I hope that I can be friends 303 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: with my ex and whoever he ended up work, especially 304 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: if you're kid. Well, you know, the funny thing is 305 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: that I don't want be friends with him, and when 306 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: we'll be friends with his wife? Yeah, yeah, like literally 307 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: just eventually sell. I don't know, we'll see. But I 308 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: do think it's interesting that you said you're different. You're 309 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: a different version of yourself in every relationship. And I 310 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: do think that for sure, because I meant that I 311 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: was with I'm such a different person, and I was 312 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: such a different person in my next relationship then I 313 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: was with him, because you just you grow, you know, 314 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: with each relationship, you learn, you grow you you know, Yeah, 315 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: and and and whatever they do, however they affect you 316 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: or you affect them in a relationship, you guys are 317 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: going to like have a different chemistry yeah, for sure. 318 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: So are you excited to have like a new storyline 319 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: on the show like this to not be about God? Yea. 320 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to have to address it, 321 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: of course, because you know, I had to deal with 322 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a lot of like the harassing for years, so there 323 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: was so many things I had to be addressed on 324 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: the show. Sure, but it took away a little bit 325 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: from who I am the person and I have a 326 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: huge heart, and you got you got to see less 327 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: of that. And you know, obviously I've been really successful 328 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: on my own and it's hard as a woman who 329 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: would to approve yourself. So I feel like that storyline 330 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: overshadowed who I actually am, and I didn't love that 331 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: I have to be So who are you then? I mean, 332 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'm super family oriented. Boston 333 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: will always be my heart, like my mom is my 334 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: best friend in the entire world, and you know, I've 335 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: worked really hard to get where I am. It wasn't easy. 336 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I've been laughed out of so many meetings because they 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: thought I was somebody's girlfriend and they thought, oh literally, 338 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: I was told I was walked into the wrong meeting 339 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: because it was an investor meeting and I was the 340 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: only female in there, and obviously, you know what I 341 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: mean that they judged me I kind of present based 342 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: off my look. They laughed me out of beating noble 343 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I had. So I've had to prove myself so many times, 344 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, you really don't get 345 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: to see that as much in season four five. I 346 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: do think you get to see a little bit more 347 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: of who I am. You know, my family comes on, 348 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: so my mom no good, Yeah, because I'm excited to 349 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: see more about that. You can tell you have a 350 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: lot more to you and that you were trying to 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: be respectful. You're actually handled everything really well. Um, but yeah, 352 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see more of your storyline and kind 353 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: of see more about you versus Christine kind of over 354 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: her story Yeah, Like it's like like why have the 355 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: same It's like no one wants to see the same 356 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: character arc. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's kind of addressing 357 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: all of her friendship fallouts, you know, I mean it 358 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of goes there and then she kind of actually 359 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: kind of makes you feel bad for her a little 360 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: bit towards the end. I mean, yes, it's because she 361 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: gets upset like all of her friends have left her 362 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of things, so you know, Um, but again I 363 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: just think that strategic plan of course, yeah that comes off. 364 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I know for sure. But yeah, no, 365 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see more of your story, for sure. 366 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: I think you've got a lot to give to the show. Um, 367 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: is there someone that you have like a kind of 368 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: crush on, like actor, athlete? Like what what do you 369 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: what do you usually go for? I feel like athletes 370 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: are trouble so yeah, okay, so my act as an 371 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: athlete and I just feel like they're so used to 372 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: getting everything that they want and they have that mentality 373 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: it's like they have to go out and basically win 374 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: at whatever. So you know, propably, I would not date 375 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: an athlete. I feel like I'm more attracted to like 376 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: nerdy businessmen than athletes. But back in the day, like 377 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: when I was in my early twenties, for sure, every 378 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: athlete I was like, you know, you get excited, But yeah, no, 379 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: I think like I don't have a specific person, but 380 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I like more like businessmen and people 381 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: that I can you know, connect with on an intelligence 382 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: level too. You know, athletes aren't usually all there either. 383 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Did you see the CEO of Riya on on there. 384 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: He's kind of cute. He's a businessman. The CEO of 385 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Ryo is on Ria. Yeah, I mean has It's like 386 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: it's like Tom on Facebook or single. My Space's tom Space, 387 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: Thomas my Space. I mean, I think if he's on right, 388 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: he's single because it's like as asking right, I mean, 389 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: is he doesn't look nerd ever? Think I remember, I think, 390 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I think, I'm really Oh he's cute. He hurt me back? 391 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: What's it? What's a deal breaker in a relationship? Do 392 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: you have any Definitely someone who doesn't want kids. That's 393 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: like number one obviously loyalty. I'm a really big communicator too, 394 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: so it would be hard for me to be with 395 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: somebody that's not good at communicating. I over communicate, I 396 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: overshare because I think it's so important and guys are 397 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: so bad at that. You know, both of my accents 398 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: like they just literally like I feel like it was 399 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: so hard for them, was like drawing blood to try 400 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and get them to talk and communicate how they're feeling 401 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I would love to be 402 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: with somebody that wanted kids the same way I do. 403 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: And you know that's good at communicating. I feel like 404 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: that's the neatest success men in communication just nick communicate. Well, yes, 405 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: and now I feel like men just shut down. Yeah 406 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: he's an emotional guy, but yeah, he also will just 407 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: shut down to It's kind of yeah, kind of both 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: but just kind of shut down. And they're just like, Okay, 409 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: if I'll give her space instead of communicating that maybe 410 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: we'll just we'll be good in like a day or two. 411 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: But it's like we're not going to ever be good 412 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: because it's just everything's gonna pile up, you know, if 413 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: you don't communicate. And then we want them to read 414 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: our minds because what we really want is for them 415 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: to come in and say, like is that when we 416 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: say we bust the A alone, we really want them 417 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: like flat, Yeah, when I say I'm on space, I 418 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: don't want space. Yeah you were supposed to like listen 419 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: to me, but take that and do something completely different. 420 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Did you not know that? Duh? Duh? Like yeah, that's 421 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: always I'm like, when I say I want space, it 422 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: actually means like I don't at all. I will say 423 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: though I don't know, I would you say you do? Yeah? 424 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Most women don't meet that. Yeah, I had I think 425 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: I had a little bit too inch wined to be 426 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: honest with you, but I had I was having it 427 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: something with someone and it was actually the guy wanted 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: to communicate, and I was just like, you know what, 429 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: I want to go to bed, and it was just 430 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: like but and then I was so mad at myself 431 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: in the morning because I was like, dang it, Like 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I always preach that I'm such a good communicator, and 433 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: then like the guy was actually trying, and then I 434 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: was just so like stubborn. I feel like, I don't know, 435 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just you could blame that on the wine 436 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: one random wine night, you know, sometimes you know, just 437 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: you just just I don't know. Um when you got 438 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: When did you get asked to do selling Sunset? Um? 439 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: I guess it was probably the fall of two thousand twenty. Yeah, 440 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: and then I found out in January, but we didn't 441 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: start filming until May. But yeah, I mean it's definitely 442 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: something that I had to consider because, you know, I 443 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: putting yourself out there for the world to see. Especially 444 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm a super private person. So like when I was 445 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: engaged and stuff like that, all my close friends and 446 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: family and everyone knew, but I didn't post about it. 447 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: I've always been very protective of my family, my relationships, 448 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: even like what I did. Not everyone knew what I 449 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: did except people that were close to me. So putting 450 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: my life out there for the world to see and 451 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: judge was something that I went back and forth with, 452 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, a decent amount. It wasn't a quick easy decision. 453 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Do you get haters or because I don't ever feel 454 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: like anyone could ever hate on you. I feel like, um, honestly, 455 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: a really small amount. And I thought that I was 456 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: going to get more. I honestly thought that I was 457 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: going to get way more than I did, just because 458 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're so sweet, like you're nice. Certain people 459 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: have fans and stuff like that. So I wasn't sure 460 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: how that was going to go. But I think, I mean, 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: when you finished the season, you know, but like obviously 462 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: everything I say is the truth and whatever. Definitely how 463 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: you handled it, for sure, Yeah, and people, But I 464 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: was very concerned that I was going to get a 465 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of hate. And the girls were warning me, like, 466 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, just take it with a grain of salt, 467 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: don't read the comments. They're gonna say a million things 468 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: about you. I mean, of course, I see things here 469 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: and there that it's like, oh my god, you're so 470 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: ugly and things like that, and it's like, okay, like 471 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: brush that off, you know what I mean, because every 472 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: pa that's not true. But you know, I have to 473 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: say I'm thankful for the amount of messages that's been 474 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: like you're so inspiring to me. You know, someone was 475 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: saying that they were having they were kind of a 476 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: little bit depressed and sitting in their house and and 477 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: now they went out and started some candle company that 478 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: she was always dreaming about doing. So I can inspire 479 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: some people a majority of people, That's why I did it. 480 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: You know that. So did you like automatically get like 481 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: a ton of new business? I always wonder that when 482 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: you're selling, when you're doing real estate on a show, 483 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, you become celebrities, 484 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Like how does that even work? Business wise? That's got 485 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: to be kind of tricky. I'm definitely getting more a 486 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: little bit more reach outs and stuff like that. But 487 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I had such a great network already coming onto the show, 488 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: because you know the relationships that I made. I have 489 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: a food company, um I partnered with Beyond Me, so 490 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: meeting all of these like high profile CEOs and stuff 491 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: like that. They you know, meet me and obviously had 492 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for what I've done and what 493 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing, and so then when they're going to buy 494 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: a house, they're now coming to me. So I did 495 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: already have a really great group of clients and clientile um. 496 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: The only thing now a little bit more people reach out. 497 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: But I'd say, you know, are they even you know, 498 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: can they even buy a you know, their sentences aren't 499 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: even adding up. So I'm like, we weighed that out though, 500 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: I have a team that goes through everything. Now, Okay, 501 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: I've wondered how that works. I'm like, because this can 502 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're getting a ton of stuff that's not 503 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: even legitimate. But yeah, well, um, thank you for coming 504 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: on the show. You're an absolute sweetheart, and if you're 505 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: ever in Nashville, please come have a glass wine with us. 506 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I definitely are awesome. You and Chris I'll should come. 507 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: We will definitely come, and even if we have the 508 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: gossip wine, I'll still make you communicate after perfect. Oh 509 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: my god, she is a sweetheart. I want to be 510 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: friends with her. Can she be our friend? Katherine? Please 511 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: be our friend? Please be our friend. UM, let's take 512 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: a break and then we'll be back. UM. I don't 513 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: remember if I've ever spoke on this on the show. 514 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure I have because of what I've said mostly 515 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: everything on the show. UM, I mean obviously you know, 516 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: but that I cry every New Year's it's not funny, No, 517 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: it's not not No, I cry every single freaking Year's. 518 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. And I was I 519 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: thought I was kind of alone in that until I 520 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: talked to a girlfriend of mine and I was like, man, 521 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: I've got like a little bit of confession. I don't 522 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: think I've told you this, and I was like, I 523 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: just I make it in my mind New Year's Eve 524 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: has to be this like amazing feeling moment, and I 525 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: make it be something that's like I don't know, I 526 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: just make it something more. My expectation is it's like huge. 527 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: And normally I'm either like last New Year's like, well 528 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: the last two Mike and I were fighting, um, and 529 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm always like good a sign like it's for some reason, however, 530 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: that that New Year's Night is it's like how I 531 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: feel like the New Year is going to be. That's 532 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: so interesting because New Year's to me is like nothing. 533 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: Why like not even remotely close to special? Oh my god, 534 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Like tell me more why I don't know how boring 535 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: is New Year's. I don't I don't like to go 536 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: out like noth thing too. I don't want to be 537 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: with anybody that I don't know. Like I was telling 538 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: you this person, I was like, here's here's here's what 539 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: you need to know about me. Cry expectation, Well, I 540 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: was seriously, I was like, I cry every year. I 541 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: don't want to. Um, I have to see the ball drop. 542 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: If I don't see the ball drop, it is it 543 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: is over? Is over? Like I have to watch the 544 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: ball drop. I guess I just assumed it was kind 545 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: of situational on New Year's, But now I see, Like, so, 546 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: what is your expectation? What would be the perfect New Year's? 547 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I said, I want just you know, with my person 548 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: or loan whatever, drinking wine, watching the ball drop, like 549 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: with my closest friends. If it's just you and wine 550 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: and the ball drop, you're going to cry. Of course, 551 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: we're doing a game night, I thought. But I need 552 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: to have that, like, you know, like with my friends 553 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: or whatever, and just like have that like moment of like, 554 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you, we got this. It's gonna be a 555 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: great year. Maybe what we're usually together on New Years, 556 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: aren't we? Or do we have to cancel it the 557 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: last the last two weeks to cancel to the mic, Hm, 558 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm not just pubbed into but I'm sorry that. Yes, 559 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: I know that that is a big one for you. 560 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Um so how can I meet your expectations? I want 561 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: to play games and I want to watch the ball drop. Okay, 562 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: Eastern time, Central time, doesn't matter. When do we see 563 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: the ball drop? I think it needs to be live 564 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: to like Nashville. I don't want to watch the I 565 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: don't want to watch the No, not that, not that one. 566 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: I want to watch New York, not Nashville. I want 567 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: to watch New York. Okay, so that's Eastern No, but 568 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: but it has to be on Central time. Okay, we'll 569 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: watch the play. Yeah, it's the replay. It's like you know, 570 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: um yeah, I don't know. I don't know why. I 571 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like I think, I'm just like 572 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: I go to this place where I'm like however it 573 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I feel then is how is going to be? Do 574 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: you think you're going to have a hard time because 575 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you won't be with the kids. Absolutely, I mean it's 576 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: already hard not having them right now. I don't know 577 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: if it would be for New Year's because it's like 578 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: the kids are kind of already in bed anyway kind 579 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: of thing. I don't know, like the kids already in 580 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: bed whatever. But like the fact that I don't get 581 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: to wake up to them New Year's Day and be 582 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: like Happy New Year and like do the little party, 583 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Like it's just like that's a bummer. But you know 584 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: what'll be good next year? Yeah, next year, and you'll 585 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: see that how great you did this year. I'm gonna 586 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: do great. So I'm going into two strong and dependant, 587 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: don't need in someone in the room cheers in with 588 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Although it would be fun, it would be nice. I 589 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: don't need it, don't need it, don't need it. But 590 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, as my friends, Christmas isn't canceled, 591 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: neither is New Year's Just you, right, I don't know, 592 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I guess I'm not the only 593 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: person that feels that way. Like there's just like this 594 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: expectation and this like it always has felt like I 595 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: remember when I was in l a at a club 596 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: and I was dating John Julius Julius husband and who's 597 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: my best friend? Let me just say that details. Um, 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: and I just remember being at this club and just 599 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: being like, this is the worst. I don't want to 600 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: be with people that I don't know. That's a nightmare 601 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, thank you, and then getting dressed up 602 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: and being it's just not my thing. Now you did 603 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: you dressed up for Pam's party. That was your one 604 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: time dressed I love I got like a forty seven 605 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: percent on that pole. By the way, that's true. Up 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: to that said that you were the one that made 607 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: they wanted to dress up. Shocking. Um. Yeah. The people 608 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: that go to bed. I mean last year when we 609 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: went to bed when we were fighting, like it was 610 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: just like I'm like, how can people go to bed? 611 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: I usually try to wait up and see the ball, 612 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: but it is. It is literally one of my least 613 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: important holidays. I don't even see it as a holiday. 614 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: It's just not I'm like, it's just another day. Wow. 615 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: Marj January one, What are you going into the new 616 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: year wanting? I'm not going to say like news resolution. 617 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I hate that word. I hate it. What are you 618 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: hoping to grow in in um do in personally. I think, 619 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: just work on myself, just like, yeah, continue therapy, start 620 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: working out because I don't do it well. And here's 621 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: a question, how can I support you in that? Because 622 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to be like, hey, like come work out, 623 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: you know you're so great. I have to be in 624 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: the mindset yeah, or I'm just not going to do it. 625 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping and praying as I'm working on myself 626 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: and my mental that I'll start wanting to work on 627 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: physical as well. So losing some weight working out, which 628 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: is like everyone's I understand, But I think just all 629 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: around self care mhm for the year, not just the 630 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: beginning of January. Maybe come up with the goal every month. 631 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I wonder where you get. I like it. Yes, I'm 632 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna do something every month that challenges me, 633 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: helps me grow spiritually, mentally, physically, and kind of journal 634 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: it you know. Ye I'm kind of on the phone. 635 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: I journal a lot on my phone. But yeah, I 636 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: just think that's like I like the monthly. I don't know. 637 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I've read this book a long time called The Happiness Project, 638 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: and they basically say, like every month should be a resolution. 639 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: So but again instead of resolution, change it to like 640 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: you know something that like challenges you, helps you grow, 641 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: inspires you. Whether it's just like I took a bath 642 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: this month and that was like a total self care moment, 643 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: you know something. How are you feeling about going into two? 644 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Are you feeling like confident that's going to be a 645 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: good year? Are you hesitant? Are you anxious? How do 646 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: you feel? I feel excited? I mean this year through 647 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: me for a loop. I mean it was it was 648 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: I survived and anything that I know that sounds kind 649 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: of like dramatic, but like I thought the divorce was 650 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna kill me, like like it just I thought I could, 651 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: like because of my anxiety, I thought I can never 652 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Literally why didn't leave for so many years Because I 653 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: thought I could not do it alone. I didn't think 654 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: I could have the kids alone. I didn't think I 655 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: could my anxiety could do it alone. I didn't think 656 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: I could just function without him. And this year taught 657 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: me that I could. And so next year, I'm just 658 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: excited to like continue to be stronger and know that 659 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: when I you know, continue on a relationship or don't 660 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: or if it ends like it's not going to kill me. 661 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: It will not break me. It's just another little learning experience. 662 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: And because I'm like I already like I've been broken 663 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: to the to the to the most I could ever 664 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: be broken. Right, I lost my family, but I gained 665 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: my new family, you know, like yeah, and you've proven 666 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: to yourself that you can do it. You can do 667 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: it you and the kids. Yeah, So I'm like anything 668 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: like That's why it's like it'll be easy for me. 669 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: Like if something isn't suiting me, I'd like all right bye, 670 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I'm good, I can do this. I 671 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't need to settle. And so I think 672 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: like going in twenty two just being like boss mode, 673 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: not side helping others and just like feeling light and 674 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: chasing joy, chasing joy. I love it. Um. I hope 675 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: you all had a merry Christmas, and I hope you 676 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: have the most amazing New Year's and um, talk to 677 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: you next year.