WEBVTT - Ep. 123 - Curtis Strange 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.080 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:12.239 Shane Bacon, and this week's episode with my friend and 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.640 two time US Open champion Curtis Strange, is brought to you, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.919 of course by Titlist and their new Vokey design S 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.200 M seven wedges. They're designed by Master Crafts and Bob Bokey, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.600 who is one of the great people in all of golf, 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.760 and they are designed to improve your wedge play. Think 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.640 about this for me. How many times do you have 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.480 a wedge in or around the greens around Just start 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.080 to count them and when's the last time you changed 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.080 the wedge. It's probably been too long. 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I've decided 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.640 the Florida swing man, it will punch you right in 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.440 your stomach. You go from the Honda to Arnold Palmer 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.880 to the players and valves part. That is four brutal 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.639 golf courses and four consecutive weeks. I guarantee the players 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.240 are like, all right, I'm out, let's see it. Let's 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.080 leave Florida as fast as we possibly can. But if 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.359 you get on a heater or like we're seeing with 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.760 somebody like Keith Mitchell, it can be great because you 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.760 know you're gonna find your golf shot in the right spot. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.880 I think that's what we saw with Francesco Mominari over 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.880 the weekend. One of the best ball strikers on the 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.440 planet right now on a golf course that requires you 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.680 to hit good golf shots and actually pays them off, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.200 which I think sometime when we see these softer golf courses, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.399 that's not always the case. So it's kind of fun 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.360 to watch these four weeks as we approach the Masters. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.480 Here's fingers crossed that Tiger is in fact healthy. I 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.359 don't even wanted to be a percent healthy. Just give 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:07.919 me healthy Tiger, because I think we're all just waiting 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.040 until we get to Augusta National, and I think we 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.640 all just hope that the man is healthy when we 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.920 get there. 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All right, let's get to 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.200 the legend that is Curtis Strange and we welcome back 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.040 in the clubhouse for the first time in twenty nineteen 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.560 and a man that is uh pushing back his fishing 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.840 excapades for the day to do this, Curtis Strange. I 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.760 always appreciate it when you and Zinger do a podcast 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.320 instead of going out super early in fish. Is this 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.760 like a weekly thing? Are you doing this every day 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.680 when you're home? This is a daily thing? Uh? Five 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.560 days out of seven. It's what I do. You know, 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.280 I played a little social golf. I fish a lot, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.400 and uh, I enjoyed getting outside. So you say you play, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.200 you play social golf? I mean are you you still 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.120 go out there and play a couple of times a week? 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.599 I mean, I know, not any sort of competitive environment 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.320 or anything like that. But are you out there grinding 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.240 or is it just simply going out playing nine holes 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.120 with some friends and and and getting out of there, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.960 you know at a decent time. No, I got thirty 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.680 and we're grinding. We got money on the lock, you know. Uh, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.440 we got a couple of bucks on the line, and 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.360 nobody wants to lose, and it's fun. It's you know 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.080 it's I never thought i'd do this viasically enjoy it. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.039 I don't get as bored as I thought I'll wouin it, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.320 and uh, it's nice to go out there and didn't 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.600 have a beer with the guys affords as a as 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.960 a guy that you know, one major championships and played 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.919 in the biggest venues on the planet. Was was it 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.960 a transition? Did you take you know, five, six, eight, 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.000 ten years to get into the mold where as you 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.680 said you thought you might be interested in doing something 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.719 like that, Because I can only imagine the moment you 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.119 decide to hang up the spikes golf probably doesn't really 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.159 sound like something you want to go do on a 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.400 weekly basis. How long did it take for you to 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.080 actually notice that this was something you were going to 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.599 kind of enjoy? Well, you make a good point, Shane, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.200 Uh it did it does go? You do go through 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.279 a transition, and it's gradually over the years you go 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.240 through the transition. I think of playing a little bit 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.920 of senior golf actually starts on the recordit tour when 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.000 when you when you're not as competitive anymore in my case, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.880 doing TV work, playing a little bit of your priorities 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.240 do change a little bit, although you still wake up 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.120 every morning as a competitor, but you realize that once 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.880 you go to the booth, you can't give it like 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.120 you always did. And then you transition from that stage 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.719 and to the Champions Tour and you're not played for 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.120 three or four years, and then played sporadically after that, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.800 but you transition out And is it Is it a 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.279 conscious effort, No, it's a it's a it's something you 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.200 just kind of gradually do subconsciously that you don't play well. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.400 You're tired of the grind, you're tired of the roads. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.400 You cut back each year, and then eventually you don't 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.640 play anymore at all, and and then you start playing 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.360 little social golf and you know it's, uh, I get 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.080 bored a little bit doing that, but I still like 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.960 going hitting balls by myself for an hour, and you know, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.240 it's just it is what it is. And I tell 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.159 people all the time, and I really mean this, that 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.560 we're still lucky to play this game professionally because you 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.280 can play it to your sixty or sixty five competitively, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.640 and versus if you played other sports, you were out 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.760 of your sport. At an old age thirty five years 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.560 old or thirty three years old unless you're an exception 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.160 of the bradies of the world and you know, some 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.880 other superstars. But I was lucky. I played competitive golf 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.039 for a long long time, and I have no no 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.560 problem with with retiring and playing social golf at all. Well, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.040 I'm as much as we can sit here and talk 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.720 about your current golf game, I do want to jump 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.000 into some headlines that have kind of been making the round. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.520 We don't we don't want to do that. You know 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.440 that this week is very interesting to me every single year, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.120 and the noise is getting louder and louder around the 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.920 Players Championship. The Players Championship to me growing up as 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.320 a fan, as somebody that watched it, it was the 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.360 biggest event that wasn't a major championship, And of course 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.800 everybody talks fifth major. That's what the term has kind 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.760 of lingered around it for years. What did it used 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.160 to feel like for you when you would compete at 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.440 Sawgrass Because back then there wasn't new trophies and new 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.800 theme songs and hashtags and all those things. It was 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.560 simply an event on a calendar. What did it feel 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.480 like to you and your peers. When you got guys 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.880 got closer and closer, and into the week at Sagress. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.120 You know, it's it's the same. We all know it's 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.520 a big, big championship, and the press knows that. The 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.200 public feels it, the players feel it for a couple 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.480 of reasons. One is that it was probably the strongest 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.120 field of the year um And two is that it 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.200 was always in the day the biggest purse, and back 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.160 in the day when we didn't play for that much money, 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.360 having a real big purse meant something because you had 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.480 a chance to, you know, fill your pockets for a 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.640 week if you played. We were on extremely tough golf 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.040 course back when we played across the road at the 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.840 country club, Slograss country Club, hard hard golf course, when 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.960 blue's tail off every day, and and then we moved 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.600 across the street to this quirky, funky place in the 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.880 players and you know, but it's always a big event. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.920 We just to me, we've kind of stepped on our 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.480 own toes every time we've turned around pushing the major 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.040 championship a label. There's not gonna be a fifth major 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.880 unless this thing develops on its own. You can't develop 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:59.120 something and manufacture something. In my estimation, you have to 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.320 let it happen, and just let it happen. It's it's 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.480 a wonderful event. I still don't like the golf course, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.720 and I think a lot of players feel the same 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.000 way I do. But be that as it may, it's 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.800 still a big event. It's the best field of the year. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.679 It's big TV. Let's just go play and let it. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.760 Let everything sold where they may. Does that make sense? Absolutely? 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.040 You know it. It's it's like this to me. I 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.880 go back to when Devol won the players. I remember 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.360 where I was watching that. I was in East Texas. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.400 I was at my sister's boyfriend's parents house, and we 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.720 were all huddled around a TV watching of all hit 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.559 the shot into seventeen and he was the best player 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.599 in the world, which is something we didn't think was 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.040 gonna happen in the Tiger era. And it was unbelievable 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.800 appointment viewing golf. It was what you had to be 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.720 watching that week that month. But what I've felt like 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.360 with all the murmurs around it, and especially it seems 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.560 like the murmurs from the people putting it on, is 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.720 it's like the guy that tells you they're good at golf. Hey, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.280 I'm a really good golfer. Oh that sounds great. Can 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.680 you show me? Because if you were, if you're saying 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.319 you're a good golfer, there's a pretty good chance you're 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.160 probably not as good as you think you are. You know. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.280 It's that whole line about goes back to what my 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.960 It goes back to what I all our daddy's told 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.199 us here ago. You don't have to tell if you're 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.080 good at something, you don't have to tell anybody, right 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.679 shoe them exactly, And this was in this one. That's 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.960 exactly the point we're making. I will make damn sure 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.240 I watched this weekend because it's good stuff, right, It's 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.160 good TV, and it always has been. I go back 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.720 in the day Raymond Floyd beat me in a playoffs 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.280 and eight eighty one eighty eighty one, and I still 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.720 have nightmares about it. I mean, it's a big event 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.200 to the players, it's big to the public, and let's 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.240 just have it like that. It's the biggest championship, it's 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.920 our championship. But on the other hand, now I will 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.280 say this, the argument that I do make contrary to 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.320 what I just said, is that why can't the players. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.440 Everybody else has their major the U s c A, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.560 the R and the Masters as an invitational, but in 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.160 the B g A, why can't the players are tour 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.400 have that one big event When we do, we do 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.400 have the players. Let everybody think about it, what they 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.720 do with the what they want to think about it. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.839 But it's a big event and it is must watch 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.920 TV this week absolutely, And again that goes back to 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.360 my point is that it I don't feel like I've 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.600 ever needed the players to tell me what it is 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.280 because it's always been to me a massively important event. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.640 And if it's not a major, and that's the world 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.839 I live in. I think there's four major championships. I 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.840 think there always will be. And that's important to me 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.360 because history guys like you, if you add a players 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.520 in the road to don't have a chance to go 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.360 out there and win one. Now you know that, and 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.760 like Gene Stairs and doesn't have to go can't go 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.480 win a players, I mean you know that. That is 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.280 to me the problem with changing the history if you will, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.000 in that regard, and so you know it's it's it's great, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.920 it's gonna be awesome. I think it's gonna be fun 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.280 to see it moved now and not in and I 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.800 think the golf course will play a lot different. I 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.160 was gonna ask you, I know, you've been so close 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.760 to winning this event before. I love. One of my 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.040 favorite things to do talking to you and Zinger and 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.720 Facts and those guys is not just talking about the winds, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.439 but talking about the almost. How the almost is what 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:21.400 we think about. That's what Steve we remember the most. Yeah, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.240 Steve Ferry was just saying that you know that that 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.000 he still thinks about the loss to the Calves more 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.480 than he thinks about, you know, the championships they've won. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.760 And uh and and I was gonna ask when you 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.240 stand as a competitor on the seventeenth hole as a 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:39.520 professional on a Sunday, and and every professional thinks about 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.400 the miss more than probably think people think. You know, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.439 they think about where to bail out, the fat part 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.640 of the green, the smart play, and to me, seventeen 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.240 at Sagress is one of the few places in the 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.640 world in professional golf where there is no bailout. You 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.559 gotta get up there and hit a golf shot. Seventeen 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.559 to me is not that hard. Uh, we try to 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.480 get you can't help but try to get cute because 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.079 it's not very long, but you have to be careful. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.160 It's scared the hell out of me when the wind 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.360 started to blow, so I try to put it right 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.280 in the dead center of the green into tuput. If 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.760 it was dead calm. Now you can maybe try to 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.760 get a little more aggressive. What I don't like is 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.120 because there's no bailout when they try to get those 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:27.000 greens so bloody hard. Now the players don't have a 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:31.439 shot because now the green plays half the size and 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.679 you can hit a pretty good shot and bounce in 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.640 the back water. I don't like that. I think it's 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.240 manipulation of the golf course. But we can make any 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.160 golf course the hardest golf course in the world by 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.080 just setting it up. So let them give the players 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.720 a chance. You can give it firm, but give them 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.920 a chance when that pin is back center to get 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.959 it close and not a good shot go over in 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.400 the water. That's the only problem I have. But the 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.720 green is quite large. If you just play the smart shot, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.440 play it where you're missing in them in the middle 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.640 of the green, you shouldn't have any problems. But when 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.240 the wind starts a blow, which it will earlier in 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.800 the year this week, it can be a tough little 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.640 son of a gun. Oh. I mean, it's just I've 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.880 I've played it a couple of times now, and uh, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.079 and I think that your point is correct. You stand 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.120 on it the first time you see it and you go, wow, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.600 the green looks a lot bigger than you think. And 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.880 I still remember the second time I played it, I went, wow, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.400 it looks a lot smaller than I think. Not last time. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.600 It continually gets smaller and smaller than more times you play, going, man, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.320 I don't I don't think it is only a wedge, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.240 isn't it? This is crazy? But you know, the older 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.200 you get, the smaller it gets. To trust me, I 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.440 could only imagine so. And I don't want to put 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.360 you on the spot here, Curtis. You told me an 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.400 unbelievable story once about the players. You already said it's 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.040 not your favorite golf course in the world. I feel 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.040 like it's a golf course that when it's going bad, 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.960 the best in the world can go out there and 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.720 shoot seventy eight, seventy nine or eighty. And you're telling 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.000 me a story back of the day. I think it 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.200 was USA was broadcasting the early coverage. You were struggling. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.760 I think you said you were about to miss a 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.160 cut and you had a moment in the woods and 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.280 and you lost your temper, and all of a sudden 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.280 you turned around and you went, oh man, they got 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.840 me on cam. No, I didn't really lose my temper. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.480 I'll actually is playing quite well as playing with Trevienno 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.520 or to watch in the first two days, and this 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.800 was her Friday, I think for people, which is really 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.640 a hard part for I don't know why it's such 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:23.280 a wide fairway for our listeners this weekend, but it's intimidating. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.600 And so left waist area, I hit a tree out 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.520 of that end up making triple well after I hit 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.520 in the waist there and hit a tree that catchers 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:37.520 met up there threw it into swamp deeper. I I 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:42.720 started to tell myself how much I hated myself and 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.440 knowing certain terms, and how much I hated this golf 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.720 course and can't wait to get out of here. And 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.600 I hate myself again in case I didn't hear myself 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.480 the first time. With all these cold por phrases which 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.960 we all do have and it got on TV and 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.720 I got a little bit. I gotta quite large fine 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.000 for that one. But it was funny because the boom might. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.760 Let me tell you some about these boom mics. They 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.400 can pick up a nat part in fifty yards, so 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.480 you have to be careful on the sidelines of the 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.600 game or on the sidelines of the golf tournament. And 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.720 it's it's funny now, but it was. It was embarrassing 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.600 at the time. You were telling me that you you 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.280 kind of like when you were you were kind of 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:25.640 having a little bit of a moment and you turn 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.160 around you went on, man, I didn't I didn't see 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.040 that boom Mike, and you knew you just knew the 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.640 fine was coming. I'm sure there were a couple of 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.680 moments like that where you're going, I'm just waiting for 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.200 the letter. Just give me the letter. Don't talk say 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.680 anything to me, don't give me a fatherly talk. Just 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.240 give me the damn letter. Let me pay it and 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.760 then and that's what. Yeah, that's the point is like, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.320 I mean, you know there are times where the tempers 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.200 get two players, and especially now with with so much coverage, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:50.800 and it's a bad look. I mean, you can go 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.320 to Sergio earlier this year. Obviously, if you're damaging greens 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.040 and guys are putting on them, that's terrible. I don't 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.520 I don't like one of the things I don't like 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.240 to see. And you see it more and more now hours. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.400 When a guy hits a bad bunker shot and then 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.840 he replays the bunger shot and knocks a whole bunch 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.239 of more sand on the green, I just feel like 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.240 that's you know that. I mean, if somebody gets in 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.240 that position and they're behind the whole bunch of clumpus scene, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.960 I guess now you can move it. But those are 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.720 the kinds of things that temper gets a little in 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.159 the way. But everybody's lost their temper, and good mistakes 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.639 on the golf course, yeah, my gosh, it's it's a 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.080 frustrating game. And you have to remember it's a frustrating game. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.160 You're doing it for your loblihood on the biggest stage, 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.920 for instance, this week, and there's a lot of pressure, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.919 and you've been at it this year already for twelve 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.919 weeks or so, and you might be a little tired, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.680 you might be frustrated, you know, and you just kind 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.600 of kind of gets the best of you. Now you 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.879 know today's social media and every move you make, if 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:49.359 you're a star, every move you make, somebody's watching. It 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.000 would be tough. You. You know, in my day you 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.280 can make mistakes and get away with it, but now 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.160 you can't. So you have to be aware that everything 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.600 you do or say is going to get out there 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.720 in in in the in the cyber world. And I 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.960 feel for the gods, But on the other hand, you know, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.120 they're all they're all buttoned up. They really do well. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.400 I mean, Sergio snaps once in a while, and who doesn't. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.600 But I think they're so well behaved and it's so 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.760 good people that golf is really lucky right now, Yeah, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.880 it was. You know, I did PJ Tour last week 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.200 at bay Hill, and you follow these guys around for 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.520 for eighteen holes, and the cameras on him the entire round. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.760 And in the early early part of the week, you're 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.480 following the big names and you're hoping they have a 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.320 good week. And then you get to the weekend and 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:36.920 you're not gonna follow the leaders because you've got to 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.680 go a little early, and so you'll still follow big names. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.520 But what I've found very interesting is you follow the 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.640 big names who are not playing well, and I love 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.800 watching as a broadcaster their attitudes. You know, Justin Rose 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.520 had a great moment. He hit it in the rough 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.399 on I think it was on eleven on Sunday, and 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.080 we're following him and he's not playing very well and 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.119 he hits this kind of chunk runner with the fairway 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.680 wood and it runs up to the front of the green, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.480