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Speaker 1: The Volume Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my cos my companion

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Speaker 1: Mike and Padre and my BFF professional Better Simon Hunter

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Speaker 4: We made it, brother, we made it, and I needed

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Speaker 4: it bad. I don't know if you know this, but

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Speaker 4: it is the dark days in Philadelphia with Philadelphia sports

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Speaker 4: right now. We don't have playoffs and hockey, we don't

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Speaker 4: seasons over. It's only in April. The season's over for

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Speaker 4: k So I'm so happy it's her brother. We're four

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy it's here.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it'll be two weeks and then we also get.

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Speaker 1: Know today after we talk to our guests is so

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Speaker 1: much more than we know right now, because the fifteen

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows anything.

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Speaker 1: We begin the twenty twenty five NFL Draft in Green

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Speaker 1: week ago and he mentioned something about Ashton Genty, the

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Speaker 1: running back from Boise State who everyone agrees is a

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Speaker 1: singular talent except for maybe Matthew Friedman, and his draft

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Speaker 1: prospects have been rising. I know Raybon has a lot

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Speaker 1: of thoughts on Genty. I know Evan has been combing

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Speaker 2: Mcshae came on the show and talked about genty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give tons of credit to mcshagh where he

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Speaker 4: came on here, and again my ears perked up because

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Speaker 4: I had heard people talk a little bit about gent

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Speaker 3: He was over under eight and a half pick eight

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Speaker 4: The over I believe was like plus one point fifty

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Speaker 4: The possibility of him going to the Patriots, which at

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Speaker 4: the time was sixteen to one. Now it's four to one,

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Speaker 4: just because I believe what he was saying. I love

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Speaker 4: the Gente talent. I think what really came down to

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Speaker 4: these teams really do believe that. Now you know, we're

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Speaker 4: sitting here a week later, he might not go to Patriots,

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Speaker 4: but all of a sudden, the Jaguars are that fifth pick,

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Speaker 4: the trade out position has become the hot bet, and

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Speaker 4: he is now minus two fifty to go Genti at

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Speaker 4: just a week ago he wasn't even supposed to go

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Speaker 4: in the top ten. Now it's big money minus money

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Speaker 4: I have two big things I need to happen that

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Speaker 4: That'd be very profitable for me because I've just been

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Speaker 1: Just in case everyone isn't hasn't been listening, You mean

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Speaker 1: shoud or Sanders.

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Speaker 4: Shador Sanders, Yes, and genty to be a top five pick, Like,

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Speaker 4: as long as he goes under that six and a half,

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Speaker 4: take a big negative on the day. It's really my

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Speaker 4: largest position, and it's you know, the type of thing

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Speaker 4: one I talk to, Chad. So if I'm getting that info,

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Speaker 4: I feel very lucky that we got him in here

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Speaker 3: I told you, I bet it the whole weekend.

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Speaker 4: So when people ask about the draft in my betting

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Speaker 4: like me, Chad knows the story. Bryce on my worst

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Speaker 4: not telling you everyone to go out there for your

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Speaker 4: We all sit here and we talk with different people.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like Chris and

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Speaker 4: game the in the day, right we're playing off people's mocks.

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Speaker 4: So I do feel confident chat. But you know the deal, brother,

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Speaker 4: I didn't sleep last night. It's a lot of nerves

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Speaker 4: because you're just you're betting on the what if, not

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Speaker 1: Know, Ray Bund, You've been loving genty for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been talking about this. How do you

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Speaker 5: It'll expected it, I think, I know, me and Evnant

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Speaker 5: have been kind of talking about kind of taking like

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Speaker 5: looking at that top of the board, we didn't there

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Speaker 5: Dan back and I talked about gent in March to

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars. I think it was something ridiculous fifty to

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Speaker 5: right now, is Simon alluded to.

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Speaker 6: But now is the time when you really, really, I.

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Speaker 5: Think, want to fade the consensus, like it's not the

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Speaker 5: time to bet an actor denty. He's but the reason

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Speaker 5: he's there is he as he should be is because

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Speaker 5: look at the t leaves. This is a bad quarterback class.

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Speaker 5: This is a bad draft class in general. Acording to

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Speaker 5: most scouts, teams don't have more than probably ten to

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Speaker 5: fifteen first round grades on guys in this whole draft.

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Speaker 5: So what you're seeing is the best players. The cream

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, ABDW. Carter, and Ashta GenZ. In my opinion,

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Speaker 5: He's not the fourth best, you know, prospect in this

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Speaker 5: So it's not surprising at all with Gens rising. But

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Speaker 5: I don't think now is the time you want to

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Speaker 6: Half at some books. So you just got to kind

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Speaker 5: But Gens is there because he's he's I think he's

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get to Banks, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Calvin Banks, the offensive tackle from Texas whose numbers

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Speaker 1: are moving up and his odds are shrinking, Evan I

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Speaker 1: want and we're going to get to that conversation. Before

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Speaker 1: what they need tonight.

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Speaker 2: Related to Genty, some of this is universal.

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Speaker 7: I've heard from a few different ones, but the quote

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Speaker 7: is basically, they're hoping that gent falls out of the

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Speaker 7: top five, and everything else they'll figure out later. It

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Speaker 7: just seems like everyone has invested in that, whether it's

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Speaker 7: at four, at five, top five. I've even heard some

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Speaker 7: people say, hey, let's take a shot at three. I

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Speaker 7: just think what Raybond said, most talented players one, two, three, Carter.

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Speaker 8: Hunter eats Genty at the top.

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Speaker 7: So I just think in a class where the offensive

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Speaker 7: skill position players, including the quarterbacks, are being questioned all

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Speaker 7: over the place, he's just not being questioned. He's one

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Speaker 7: of the more talented running backs we've seen even enter

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Speaker 7: think it's becoming a what do I want to give

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Speaker 7: someone take the talented guy. So I think right now,

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Speaker 8: To two fifty. It just keeps moving up. So it

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Speaker 5: now you're seeing like, oh, well, maybe mill Road takes

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Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph Mason Rudolph would be the number three quarterback

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Speaker 1: Well, Simon, you just said that you're heavily invested in

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Speaker 2: How did you get there?

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Speaker 3: Just because of the numbers? It was most books yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Moved to ten and a half at plus three hundred.

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Speaker 4: well we're at this point now.

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Speaker 3: It's not as juiced up, right.

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Speaker 4: But still bet it just because of how much is moved.

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Speaker 4: many of these guys are thinking future, right, Like if

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Speaker 4: all about potential, Like this is someone that you know.

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Speaker 4: People I respect have him great as their number one quarterback.

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Speaker 4: So when I see that, I'm just like, Okay, all

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Speaker 4: it takes is one team to love the kid. That's

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm betting on, one team to love them.

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Speaker 3: Spot have.

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Speaker 4: So my view of this class is like when I've

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Speaker 4: they might have him below Dart and Milrow. So that's

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Speaker 4: what's so funnering about the betting market. It's like you're

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Speaker 4: And that's for a good reason, right, So that's why

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Speaker 4: i love making these type of bets. I'm betting on

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Speaker 4: that dark horse team that's just not saying a word,

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Speaker 4: like the Atlanta Falcons last year taking Pendix when they

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm banking on here.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's really fun where like you know,

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Speaker 3: We want to know. So there's always teams like that.

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Speaker 3: I'll do that chat. But it's like, do I've inside info?

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Speaker 4: No? If I did, people we'd be we'd be going

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Speaker 4: crazy on here right now. But yeah, the Sanders chatter

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Speaker 4: to me is interesting. It's all negative the last two

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Speaker 4: They're just playing the game right now.

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Speaker 2: How do we get here?

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Speaker 8: Here's what.

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Speaker 2: None of this makes sense to me, and it's so stupid.

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Speaker 1: And these are these are billion dollar franchises, right, These

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Speaker 1: And these are decisions that have generational impacts on the

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Speaker 1: These are massive decisions. Shedroy Sanders during the college football season,

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Speaker 1: There wasn't even a question, right, it was like consensus.

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Speaker 1: So why is this thing so fucking flawed? It is

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Speaker 1: just feels like Evan, it just feels like we're throwing darts.

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Speaker 1: How are we making any decisions here with any confidence.

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Speaker 7: I think people started, and this is just my opinion,

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Speaker 7: Like I think you were there, people started to get

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Speaker 8: That's when this started to move.

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Speaker 7: Like, no one's done almost anything on the field, No

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Speaker 8: It's all negative.

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Speaker 7: Energy leading up to the draft, which is completely moving

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Speaker 7: I mean it's really really strange considering I think it's

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Speaker 7: I just don't think they want the circus.

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Speaker 5: of get some sense of like who's gonna go where

439
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Speaker 5: Literally guys are moving like halfway up and down the

440
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: board off one mock draft and we're day of the draft,

441
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Speaker 5: Day of the draft, and dudes who I couldn't even

442
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: name put out a mock like I'm not like you

443
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like there's just too many of them,

444
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 5: but one guy it's not even like okay.

445
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Speaker 6: Overwhelming them my mocks are doing this.

446
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well this guy who does mox and

447
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: like finished in the top ten that one year, but

448
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: this guy here, so we got to move him from

449
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: thirteen to six. It's just no one knows anything. The

450
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 5: team's new all along, I think. But I think media,

451
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Speaker 5: first of all, we're a little we're always gonna be

452
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Speaker 5: infatuated with quarterbacks.

453
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Speaker 6: And when it's early.

454
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Speaker 5: In the process and you know, you're kind of looking at, okay, well,

455
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks at the top of the board. To Simer's point,

456
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Speaker 5: you're kind of betting on a desperation. But as we've

457
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Speaker 5: gotten I think closer and closer to the draft, I

458
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Speaker 5: just think we're kind of seeing a lack of desperation

459
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Speaker 5: in the actions. Like it's not just like I don't

460
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 5: think it's just like a teams are. It's like a

461
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Speaker 5: smoke screen. And you know, I think the fact that

462
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Speaker 5: no movement has been able to happen, no trades have

463
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Speaker 5: been able to happen, just tells you that teams don't

464
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Speaker 5: have a lot of first round grades, and no one's

465
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Speaker 5: really trying to trade up for anyone, and everyone's kind

466
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Speaker 5: of comfortable where they are just letting them word fault

467
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Speaker 5: to them because there's not really a lot of upside

468
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 5: and less the real reports have been Hunter and Gentee

469
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Speaker 5: and cam Ward, So it makes sense the top quarterback

470
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Speaker 5: who's probably in a tier above everyone else, and then

471
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Speaker 5: just top prospects. So I think I think that I

472
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 5: think the team's knew awlong, but you know, it was

473
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Speaker 5: just kind of the and the media hype drives it,

474
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Speaker 5: and it's still driving this crazy movement and we're hours out.

475
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Speaker 1: McShay alluded to this last week. There really is no

476
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Speaker 1: upside for any GM, any scout, any executive to give

477
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Speaker 1: anybody in the media who covers the draft any real information.

478
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Speaker 1: So it's all dependent upon us believing that somebody has

479
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: a good enough relationship that they're getting directional content. They're

480
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: never going to get real content, and more than likely

481
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Speaker 1: they're getting shitty content. And so you know, Raybund, you

482
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Speaker 1: mentioned Calvin Banks earlier in the show. This is a

483
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Speaker 1: guy who the tackle from Texas, was not listed anywhere

484
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Speaker 1: as the top overall offensive line prospect. It has been

485
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Speaker 1: Will Campbell, Will Campbell, Will Campbell, Will Campbell. All of

486
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Speaker 1: a sudden, Evan, you can tell us the numbers Calvin

487
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: Banks like could be going as high as number six

488
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Speaker 1: to the Raiders at this point. What has the movement

489
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Speaker 1: been like for him, but he's a very good example

490
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Speaker 1: of Raybon. What you're talking about, Evan, give us the numbers.

491
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been consistent movement, honestly, and each week me

492
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Speaker 7: and Raybond do the Action podcast. Banks has been like

493
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Speaker 7: the conversation every time because it's been steady. So he

494
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Speaker 7: opened a twenty four and a half even just yesterday,

495
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Speaker 7: I'm about three sixty five. He was at thirteen and

496
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Speaker 7: a half, but ends up thirteen and a half over

497
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Speaker 7: plus three fifty, ends up moving to now seven and

498
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Speaker 7: a half at over at even odds. So I mean,

499
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Speaker 7: at at this point, we're just trying to I don't

500
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Speaker 7: want to call it randomly, but we're just selecting offensive

501
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 7: tackles at this point. To put into that, I've seen

502
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Speaker 7: member with that sixth lot. As soon as we heard

503
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Speaker 7: genty going five, I think everyone is trying to figure

504
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Speaker 7: out what the heck the Raiders are going to do,

505
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Speaker 7: especially because it's a new Raiders. There's Brady involved, there's Cara.

506
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 7: I just think we don't know this Raiders team, so

507
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 7: I think trying to figure out what's going on there.

508
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Speaker 7: But Banks a ton of mock drafts. If genty doesn't

509
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Speaker 7: go five, I think he'll go six. I think, but

510
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Speaker 7: if he goes five, I think Membo Banks are both

511
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 7: the possibilities there. But I think if I look at

512
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Speaker 7: it right, I think Banks has been the biggest mover

513
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Speaker 7: up out of almost anyone. Second's probably McMillan, but right

514
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 7: now it's Banks. The numbers are crazy. I sent a

515
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Speaker 7: screenshot to Raybon and our producer Matt Mitchell last night.

516
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Speaker 7: Banks was minus twelve hundred to go top ten at

517
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Speaker 7: a certain book. At that point, it's just the movement's insane.

518
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Speaker 6: And nothing has happened. That's what's crazy.

519
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Speaker 5: That's why I tell people should like Evan, you were

520
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: talking about Banks being like the number two tackle at

521
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 5: what like ten to one odds and greater than that.

522
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: You were high on Banks when he was still people

523
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 5: were still mocking him as a guard.

524
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Speaker 6: Now all of a sudden he's at the top tackle.

525
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Speaker 3: Like what this is?

526
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Speaker 5: Nothing has happened, no one, He didn't block anyone, Like

527
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: the what what are we doing?

528
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Speaker 8: Well?

529
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Speaker 1: This is what I love about the draft, And I

530
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Speaker 1: do want to get to Simon. You've laid out your positions,

531
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Speaker 1: but Ray Bond and Evan, I want I want you

532
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: to recap positions for people Shamar Stewart defensive end from

533
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Speaker 1: Texas A and m you know, he's got four and

534
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: a half career sacks in three seasons, but he tested

535
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Speaker 1: as the best athlete at the Combine. He's either Mike Mamula,

536
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: who old heads will remember, Mike Mamula who was a

537
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Speaker 1: defensive end at Boston College who had done thing, went

538
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: to the Combine and all of a sudden became a

539
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: top ten pick for the Philadelphia Eagles because his athleticism

540
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: so wowed every single scout there. Or you know the

541
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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, which you guys know I love the

542
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: sports section of the Wall Street Journal. They had a

543
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: story this morning about Stuart where you know, people are

544
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: grading him as anything from Javon Curse, who was an

545
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: athletic freak who played for the Titans, to Miles Garrett

546
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: who is going to be in the Hall of Fame

547
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. But the guy didn't do anything

548
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: in college. And the response you get is, well, it

549
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a scheme, it wasn't a system that was conducive

550
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: to him doing anything. Why can anyone say that and

551
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: everyone accepts that without any pushback whatsoever. If the guy

552
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Speaker 1: is that good of an athlete in college football, What

553
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: coach isn't building the system to take advantage of a

554
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Speaker 1: guy who can dominate that. You don't make like a

555
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: guy like that a fucking compliment on the defensive line.

556
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: You make him the focal point of the defensive line.

557
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: This makes no sense to me, Simon, explain it to me.

558
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: Because you're going it from it from just one perspective

559
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: where it it does work out that where where you're

560
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: taking the potential and I get whe you're coming from

561
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: check because there are, in my opinion, way more missus

562
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: than hits. But when you do hit on the right

563
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: type of potential, it's like you got an all time

564
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: or all pro. Like my favorite ever always be the

565
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: Jordan of Malata, Like a guy played rugby. Wasn't nobody

566
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 4: The Eagles had them on their board. So we can

567
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: get this kid in the seventh round. He's some Australian

568
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: guy that plays rugby. He's eighteen, he's biggest shit. We'll

569
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Speaker 4: turn him into a left tackle. Now he's probably number one,

570
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: number two best left tackle. I know what you're saying, Jet,

571
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, Dad's drafted on potential where like you're

572
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: saying the first round. To me, I'm with you that

573
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: the risk isn't the same where you're you're taking a

574
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: guy a potential in the first round of that greater risk.

575
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: It is not the same.

576
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: But these teams talk themselves into it, Chad, because they

577
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: see these guys work out and they say, well, we

578
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: have much better coaching, Like right, there's not this kid's

579
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: not wasting time going to class. He's going to be

580
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: in here work and putting the work in. We're like,

581
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: you're saying, it doesn't work that way.

582
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Speaker 3: So I'm with you. I hate it, but I get

583
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: why they.

584
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: Do it because for every you know, four or five misses,

585
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: the one thing that does it on the one guy.

586
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: It's it's huge in football, right, It's it's game changing potential.

587
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: So I'm with you, it's it's tough. But you know,

588
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: there's this draft class, like we're talking about here at

589
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 4: Chris said it's a weak draft class.

590
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: To me, I love this draft class because they're they're all.

591
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: Feels like the same type of level, Like you can

592
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: get really good guys at pick forty two, forty five,

593
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: as these teams reaching right now at pick seven, pick six,

594
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: So to me.

595
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: It's really interesting.

596
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about here, like Will Campbell, some people

597
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: chat don't even have him as a first rounder because

598
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: of his arms.

599
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: Like that's what I'm saying.

600
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: This is crazy that this game might go pick four

601
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: and you have some scouts to have a second round

602
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: grade on them because of potential. So yeah, it's this

603
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: is gonna be a crazy draft class. I can tell

604
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: you that from just to get go, you.

605
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: Get some great second rounders in the first round this year.

606
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 7: I think that's true though. I think that's why the

607
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 7: trading back is so interesting right now, because I think

608
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 7: other teams are looking at the board and saying to themselves, Okay,

609
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 7: well we can draft at eleven or twelve or thirteen,

610
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 7: or we can try to double up and triple up

611
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 7: and get more players. Because I do think it's a

612
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 7: little bit level, Like look at the defensive line. You

613
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 7: have like seven, eight, nine defensive linemen who could be

614
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 7: going in the first round. And I'm sure team's grades

615
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 7: are all over the place, like even Stewart is fifth

616
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 7: or sixth if you look at order on some mock drafts.

617
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 7: So it's just about preference. I think a preference draft

618
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 7: is a real good way to kind of cap it.

619
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're gonna you're going to take more risks

620
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: in a year, So Stuart, like listen.

621
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 6: Top quarterback and in the second quarterback. Definitely some teams.

622
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: I don't think I have a top fifty grade on

623
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: schuer Sanders Tat McMillan, the same thing was said about him,

624
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: he's the consensus number one receiver, and then the minute

625
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: they said that about him, the next day, all of

626
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: a sudden, teams in the top six are one a

627
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: draft that's that's complete damage control. Like to your point

628
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: about you know, there's a lot of the media is

629
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: kind of being used as you know, mouthpieces. So that's

630
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: why I'm just kind of like anti you just got

631
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: to kind of fade the consensus. And the earlier you

632
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: start doing it in the process, the better positions you're

633
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: gonna have. But oh man, this is just a great

634
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: a great draft for kind of going against the grain

635
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 5: because I think teams legit have like eight to twelve

636
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 5: first round grades if that, so it could go any

637
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: which way.

638
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Well, I want to get into Raybon to what your

639
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: thoughts are right now. I just say one more thing

640
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: before I ask you that question, is if the Bears

641
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: draft Shamar Stewart, I am gonna freaking lose it because

642
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: we know the Bears need a defensive end and if

643
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: this is how they decide to spend their.

644
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Draft capital, I will freak out.

645
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: Also for pouring one out rip Steve McMichael nineteen eighty five,

646
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Bears legend, Ray Bond, give me your.

647
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: I just gonna say real quick chat.

648
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: But that's our point though, is you can get a

649
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: d M in the second round. That's why like this

650
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: class it's so fun.

651
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: Let's get Stewart in the second round, number ten.

652
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: That's all just say for your drafting style, like you

653
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: not wanting to draft on something that only gets four

654
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: sacks in college. You don't want to draft that potential.

655
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: There are more than half the GM's are legit your

656
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: drafting style, Chad, so you're not an island there. So

657
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: people might think Chad's being off basis he's not.

658
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Like.

659
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys that think the exact same way.

660
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: But there's always gonna be that young punk, right, the

661
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: new guy with this computer that's going to come in

662
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: and be like, no, the numbers say this, and they

663
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: say that, So yeah, I just want to give both

664
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: perspective that I agree with Chad that I draft the

665
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: same way. I would never draft someone that's not a

666
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: football player first.

667
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: That to me is the biggest thing. I wanted an athlete,

668
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: all that, but I want a football player first. So

669
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: I think Chad's the same way.

670
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: Listen, Chad loves hitting home runs. Chad loves being a

671
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: genius for finding a diamond in the rough. I'm looking

672
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: at three people that I have hired over the course

673
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: of my career who had no business doing any of

674
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: the jobs that I hired him for, and it turns

675
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: out they were genius. Genius moves home runs. But Chad

676
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: knows that home runs are really hard to hit. And

677
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: Chad knows that at the end of the day, if

678
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: you're building a team, you've got to have a lot

679
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: of people who are really good at what they do

680
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: and have proven that they're really good at what they

681
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: do and have proven they can deliver at high numbers

682
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: over an extended period of time if you're going to

683
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: spend the money.

684
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Chad understands these things.

685
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, Shamar Stewart, Chad would not be making Shamar

686
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Stewart a first round pick Raybond, give me your best

687
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: bets right now.

688
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're doing this, you know, all the day

689
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: of the draft, so a bunch of over unders are

690
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: kind of going crazy. So those are the ones I've

691
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 5: been attacking today. So I'll run through some pretty quick.

692
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: Calvin Banks Junior over picked seven and a half at

693
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: even money. He's still probably the consensus across all mocks.

694
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 5: He's still at thirteen, but I think Ken is probably

695
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: a much more realistic even if you want to buy

696
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 5: to the hype, but it's all hype. Then I got

697
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 5: Ted McMillan over picked twelve and a half at plus

698
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: one sixty. I think he's at best probably a fifty

699
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: to fifty shot to go to the Cowboys. We don't

700
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: even know if they prefer him to Golden And I

701
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: think I think the stuff about the Jags and the Raiders,

702
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 5: that was all just damage control after you had and

703
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 5: like mock drafters saying they had they had low grades

704
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: on him, and you had teams report teams saying they

705
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: barely had him cracked in the top fifty. So I

706
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: think that's great value. Then I got Will Johnson under

707
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: pick twenty four and a half. I think that the

708
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: slide has been too crazy. I mean, he's he was

709
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 5: going in the top ten at some point and nothing's

710
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: really changed, But all of a sudden, you know, now

711
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: he's like he's not even gonna crack the top twenty four.

712
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: I think that's crazy. And then mill Roe over picked

713
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 6: thirty eight and a half.

714
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 5: I mean, we're talking about the QB two falling out

715
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: of the first round. I think it's more of a

716
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 5: indictment on the whole quarterback class than the fact that,

717
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: like Anthony Richardson, light is gonna dart up people's draft boards.

718
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: So faded him and one more a mecca of Bucah.

719
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 6: This one's probably makes me the most nervous.

720
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: But over pick twenty six and a half at plus

721
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: one twenty two, or over pick twenty nine and a

722
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: half at plus two fifteen. I just most times I've

723
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 5: seen him mocked have been like pick thirty thirty one,

724
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 5: thirty two, or just out of the first round completely,

725
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: because there's still a lot of potential to kind of

726
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 5: jockey for that jockeying for position with the quarterback situations,

727
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: and there's still I think more defensive players that there's

728
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: gonna be runs on positions, you know, like corner and

729
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: Edgdress kind of come into an end where teams are

730
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 5: going to feel comfortable kind of waiting on him, so

731
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 5: like him to not crack the top thirty either. I

732
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 5: think in general, I think I think offensive skill positions

733
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: are a bit inflated in this draft, top to bottom

734
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 5: in the first rounround.

735
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 2: Ev I want to get your your latest as well.

736
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: But let me ask the group right now, based on

737
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: what we're hearing about Sanders, what you just said about

738
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: Milroe Raybond, Like, if the number two rated passer isn't

739
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: even may fall out of the first round, what do

740
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: we think of under two and a half quarterbacks taken

741
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: in the first round.

742
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 8: I'm a fan.

743
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: It's kind of yeah, it's it's It's probably just not

744
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: the best way to attack it, because there is the

745
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 5: possibility that, you know, they just if one team trades up,

746
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: then another team might have to trade up just to

747
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 5: make sure because New Orleans is luming.

748
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's probably more likely than not.

749
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: That it's round two is what we thought round one

750
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 5: was gonna be, and no one moves like anywhere.

751
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 8: The interesting thing is, I think I was just saying

752
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 8: I think Raymond hit on that though.

753
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 7: I've been betting this draft with him for like over

754
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 7: a month now, and I don't think I've touched that

755
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 7: market of the two and a half quarterbacks because I

756
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 7: think there's just different ways to play it. But if

757
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 7: I had to bet it, i'd probably say under two

758
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: and a half just going through some of my bets, though,

759
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 7: I've been betting SEC players over fourteen and a half

760
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 7: for a while now. It's under two to one, under

761
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 7: one to two, so it's minus one ninety five minus

762
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 7: one ninety I don't have to go through all the players,

763
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 7: but I do think fifteen is the record, it would

764
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 7: tie the record, and I see at least fifteen sixteen

765
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 7: getting in there. So that's one bet I like I

766
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 7: was with raybon on Banks. Listen, I've got Banks top

767
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 7: ten at like seven to one, six to one, So

768
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 7: at this point over seven and a half is going

769
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 7: to be the way that I'm at least going to

770
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 7: get back into the market to play it the other

771
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 7: way a little bit. Some first round bets I like,

772
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 7: So I've been on Kenneth Grant for a long time now.

773
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: I got him at minus two thirty minus two fifty.

774
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 7: He's up to like three fifty at some places, but

775
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 7: there is a book out there that'll let you like

776
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 7: parlay first round picks, so I think there's at least

777
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 7: an ability to put him in a parlay to potentially

778
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 7: do something.

779
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 8: The other one I like is Chavon Revel. He was

780
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 8: three to one yesterday to get in the first round quarterback.

781
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 8: It's now plus one eighty.

782
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 7: I think anything above like plus one fifty range is

783
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 7: still something I would consider. And the other one I

784
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 7: keep betting and listen. I don't know because the odds

785
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 7: keep coming down, but I'm still a fan. Is Hampton

786
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 7: to be the second running back. I just have him

787
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 7: overson in almost every scenario.

788
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 8: It's down to like minus two fifty. I've seen minus

789
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 8: two thirty.

790
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 7: I still think at twenty at Denver, and even if

791
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: they both fall to the end of the first round

792
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 7: or second round, I still see Hampton as a better option.

793
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 7: So right now those are probably the ones I would consider.

794
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: I will say this, yesterday I took some dart throws

795
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 7: on McMillan at nine and McMillan at ten, complete dart

796
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 7: throws eighteen to one at nine, twenty five to one

797
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 7: at ten, they are both now sixteen to one and under,

798
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 7: so him kind of falling or being I know, the

799
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 7: trade up is kind of crazy at this point, but

800
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 7: in those slots seem to be getting some momentum. I

801
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 7: have some specials, but we can talk about that in

802
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 7: a second. Those are direct from bet three sixty five,

803
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 7: but right now, again a lot has moved, but those

804
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 7: are probably the bets.

805
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Simon. Anything to add other than what we've discussed, Yeah.

806
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: I would say from the beginning of the show what

807
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: Chris said about, you know, all this crazy movements off

808
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: people's very late mock drafts of the last couple of days,

809
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: embrace it like they're talking about the banks play go

810
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 4: against the norm.

811
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: And that quarterback movement, to me is a.

812
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Incredibly interesting chat because it was up to what minus

813
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 4: three point fifty the over on quarterbacks in the first round.

814
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: So that is either they're moving that off air, or

815
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: someone incredibly smart with a lot of money and know

816
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: and knows what's going on in the league took a

817
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: position the books respected and moved off it. Now more

818
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: often not in the draft chat, they move off air.

819
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: So I'm probably gonna be patient. I'm gonna hope the

820
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: public ups following and I'm probably going to bet the

821
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: over two and a half and I'll probably bet the

822
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: over three and a half just because i know next

823
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: year's draft class is really strong with the quarterbacks. But

824
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: we've seen these teams trade back into the first round

825
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: to get the quarterback just because of the fifth year option, right, Like,

826
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 4: you know how many times have we seen that happen.

827
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: I'll bank on that, But I do agree where it's

828
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: like we're gonna know pretty right if Sanders falls to

829
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: twenty one, Chad, I'm probably gonna eat that, eat that bet.

830
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: That's probably a dead bet because if.

831
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh or any of these teams pass on him and

832
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: he falls out of the first I'm gonna need to

833
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: get really lucky on Dart and mill Row to hit

834
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: this bet.

835
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: So it really is a bet.

836
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: Where I'm like I said in the beginning of the show,

837
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: I'm heavy on betting on Sanders, heavy on gent Ye.

838
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: I need a little bit of luck with Sanders here

839
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: because every move I've made it's going against me.

840
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: It just keeps going down.

841
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, the people in the know, I know, Christmas

842
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 4: to say something here that I might be way off

843
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: on Sanders.

844
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 7: No.

845
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 6: What I was gonna say is.

846
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: Another position that I'm kind of really strong on is

847
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: Sanders not to go to Pittsburgh. I think even people

848
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 5: that are mocking him there, And that's what a lot

849
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: of the books are kind of moving off to Simon's point.

850
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: They're just saying, like, Pittsburgh just needs a quarterback and

851
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: we don't know what else to do, so we're not

852
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: going to be right. Yeah, he just makes the least

853
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 5: sense from a skill perspective, giving the receipts they have.

854
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: And I know now they're talking about trade and pickings,

855
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: so who knows, but I think that it's very Again,

856
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 5: he didn't work out for them. It just doesn't happen

857
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: that teams end up going to a quarterback who they

858
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: didn't do any pre draft work with. And on top

859
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 5: of that, Pittsburgh could have a deal with Aaron Rodgers

860
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: in place, and they just don't want to tip their hand,

861
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 5: and Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to deal with like, you know,

862
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 5: more camp and media questions and stuff and pickings questions, and.

863
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 6: So they might who knows, but I just don't.

864
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: I think that's a great way to fade some of

865
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 5: like this in a smart way is like Giants plus

866
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: six fifty you can get his high to draft standards,

867
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 5: and the Browns.

868
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 6: You could still get a plus five fifty.

869
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 5: If Pittsburgh passes on him, the second round might literally

870
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 5: just be what we thought the first round was going

871
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: to be for most of the process, where it's the

872
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 5: Browns or the Giants and one of them takes Dart

873
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Speaker 5: and one of them takes Standards. And I think that's

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Speaker 5: a really smart way to attack it, because I just

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Speaker 5: do not think that that Pittsburgh makes a lot of

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Speaker 5: sense for uh should.

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Speaker 8: Ing with that thought process.

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Speaker 7: Milroe probably slides as well, which is why the thirty

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Speaker 7: eight and a half that you posted I think is

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Speaker 7: interesting because if you believe that they slide, he's gonna

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Speaker 7: slide as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna talk about shock.

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Speaker 5: We're here and like Milroe teams have probably second third

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Speaker 5: round grade on him. But yeah, like if you just

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Speaker 5: look at the draft order, who's really trying to trade

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Speaker 5: up for him?

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Speaker 6: Even and that like it just.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't none of this quarter Quarterbacks are usually just inflated.

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Speaker 5: There's the one odd year where sometimes a bunch of

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks go, but generally speaking, and books can choose who

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Speaker 5: they post, and like you don't see over unders on

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Speaker 5: like Tonrely or guys like fringe first rounders that you

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Speaker 5: could that would kind of take the place of some

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Speaker 5: of these inflated guys.

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Speaker 6: So just don't get quotam in a hype's you would.

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Speaker 3: Agree that, Chris, there's so many teams you wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 4: Like the Jets taking Sanders at seven ohet, we wouldn't

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Speaker 4: shock you just because they're a desperate team with a

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Speaker 4: crazy owner. So like that, there's a lot of that

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Speaker 4: where it's like there are teams who need quarterbacks justin fields.

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Speaker 4: He's not the answer to the Jets future, right, So

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Speaker 4: I do think that part's interesting when there was a

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Speaker 4: bunch of dark horse teams willn't even know about that.

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Speaker 3: Could just, you know, take one of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Guys in less than twenty four hours, we're going to

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Speaker 1: know the answers.

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Speaker 2: Unless we're going to be we're going to be geniuses.

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Speaker 8: We might not know, Yeah, sud we may not know,

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Speaker 8: but yes, a lot.

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Speaker 6: About any quarterback you talked about it.

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Speaker 1: If Sor hasn't been drafted, we'll know a lot more

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Speaker 4: That's fair as Steelers just moved the minus one fifty

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Speaker 4: to take Sanders so that another mock.

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