Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody? This is Sugar Steve from Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 2: We are beginning a new batch of classic episodes to
Speaker 2: give you, and this one is special to me. It's
Speaker 2: a conversation between my only two friends, and I guess
Speaker 2: you could say my two bosses, Questlove and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2: They talk about the art of making mixtapes, their mutual
Speaker 2: love of duop, and their mutual love of me, Sugar Steve.
Speaker 2: This episode first aired what seems like a lifetime ago,
Speaker 2: back on December fourth, twenty nineteen, and I know you're
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it. Take it away, Questlove and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: We promised you all freaking summer that we'd be back,
Speaker 3: and I told you I was told to never ever
Speaker 3: make a promise I can't keep.
Speaker 1: Yet.
Speaker 3: Still we're back and we're better than ever. The family's
Speaker 3: still here, but we're gonna do a little bit different
Speaker 3: right now. This is officially the return of Quest Left Supreme.
Speaker 3: Shout out to our new family on iHeartRadio. I will
Speaker 3: say that right now we are worldwide for the first time.
Speaker 3: A lot of you we've heard your cries. Yes, we
Speaker 3: are officially worldwide. We're not just US and Canada anymore.
Speaker 3: Another cross for celebration is our guest today, five time
Speaker 3: Emmy Winner, People's Choice, Webby Writers Guild, Critics Choice and
Speaker 3: Grammy Award winning, which I try to make a word
Speaker 3: out of it, but it was.
Speaker 1: Just may you comedy continents exactly. We're valid.
Speaker 3: Most importantly, our guest today is a comic student. He
Speaker 3: is a Saturday Night Live legend, still the coolest late
Speaker 3: night talk show host, and a New York Times bestselling author.
Speaker 3: My bud please welcome back to the return of post
Speaker 3: Loft Supreme James T.
Speaker 1: Call me, Jimmy, come me, just call me Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Wait, time out. What the hell's T stand for? T?
Speaker 3: Here's your middle name, right, Tiberius?
Speaker 1: No? I was like, what Captain Perk T is? Thomas
Speaker 1: James Thomas found.
Speaker 3: I never knew that we shared a route Thompson Thomas.
Speaker 3: I did not know you were Thomas. Okay, do you
Speaker 3: have a middle name?
Speaker 1: You ready? Yeah? All right?
Speaker 3: So it's the pronounced the way that you say it is?
Speaker 3: Khalib khalib k h a l i b Amir Khalib.
Speaker 1: Khalib Colleb Alib Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My parents were on some next next when when I
Speaker 3: was born Khalib Khaleb Thompson, Yes.
Speaker 1: Wow, wild, which made me.
Speaker 3: All the more just wanting to have a question mark
Speaker 3: for my name all my life.
Speaker 1: That's the exactly.
Speaker 4: But we went through your names once before, like you've
Speaker 4: had was it always brother brother quest?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: So when we first when the group first started, I was,
Speaker 3: oh God.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's we all came from somewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't want to meet all right, Okay, so.
Speaker 4: Oh man, just say it, dude, Man.
Speaker 1: It kills me.
Speaker 4: This is like therapy when you.
Speaker 3: First first my first name was deaf dough money. I
Speaker 3: want to do something that I normally don't. I never
Speaker 3: I never do like rapid fire questions on this show.
Speaker 3: Like it's always like, you know, the conversation, yeah, like
Speaker 3: so you were born in Yes, I know you're born.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that everyone pretty much knows your backstory.
Speaker 3: So this is a question. I always wanted to start with.
Speaker 3: What did you have for breakfast this morning?
Speaker 1: I had pancakes.
Speaker 4: You have in syrup you cook them more, you know.
Speaker 4: I I had a meeting this morning.
Speaker 1: What time do you wake up? Man?
Speaker 4: I don't want to wake up, but the kids wake
Speaker 4: me up. They It's insane. Right now, I have a
Speaker 4: six year old and the four and a half year old,
Speaker 4: and they get in bed around probably four in the morning.
Speaker 4: Usually wait what I know, And I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 4: I got to sleep.
Speaker 1: But my weef on me show biz kids.
Speaker 4: My wife is like, no, no, They go to sleep
Speaker 4: at like seven or a night, but in their room.
Speaker 4: But then at four in the morning they walk into
Speaker 4: our bedroom and come into bed with me and my
Speaker 4: wife and just want to sleep in the bed with us.
Speaker 4: And I was like, we got to just tell them no,
Speaker 4: and they got to go back to the room. My
Speaker 4: wife's like, they won't do it forever. There's no you know,
Speaker 4: thirty year old kids sleeping with their parents. It's like
Speaker 4: eventually they figure it. She goes, one day we'll be
Speaker 4: wanting our kids to come in and send it laying.
Speaker 4: So anyways, so they come in around four, I try
Speaker 4: to I toss and turn till about probably seven, and
Speaker 4: then we wake up around six thirty seven.
Speaker 3: When he's not out of school age now she in
Speaker 3: first grade. She's in first grade and she still wants
Speaker 3: to get up at six in the morning. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: they got up at six in the morning. They play
Speaker 3: like they're excited and they love it.
Speaker 4: They play for an hour like all their toys, and
Speaker 4: then we brush our teeth and that we have breakfast.
Speaker 4: We usually make them breakfast, but I didn't eat with
Speaker 4: them because I had to. But normally what I would
Speaker 4: do is, you know what I've been doing is the
Speaker 4: gross apple cider, vinegar, lemon hot water.
Speaker 1: I love that now you do, and I'm used to it.
Speaker 1: I'm still not used to it. It's the guys.
Speaker 4: It's like honestly painful for me. Really, the drink vinegar
Speaker 4: every morning. It sounds like torture. Why didn't we do
Speaker 4: that to each other?
Speaker 1: Or do you put a little bit of honey in it? Yes?
Speaker 1: And it's still hard.
Speaker 4: It's getting better a little bit for me, but I
Speaker 4: think I was maybe I was putting too much vinegar
Speaker 4: in mine.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I was just drinking like hot vinegar. Its
Speaker 3: pretty gross. But you do it every day.
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. You do. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: put kai on pepper. Yeah, I do that never now
Speaker 1: and then I throw that in there.
Speaker 4: But I anyways, so that's Normally I would not have breakfast.
Speaker 4: I would just have that, but I had a meeting
Speaker 4: about the show today, so I had to go order
Speaker 4: something to just be rude.
Speaker 1: So your morning routine usually starts at seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then because the thing is is that sometimes
Speaker 3: I'll say, most of the time, unless we're talking about
Speaker 3: a sketch or some sort of whatever, the format of
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do later, I never see you. So
Speaker 3: I never know what your morning routine is from nine,
Speaker 3: from eight in the morning.
Speaker 1: Till three or two, I go to bed as soon
Speaker 1: as I can. I go.
Speaker 4: I'm one of those people now I go out to dinner.
Speaker 4: If I go out to dinner with Nancy, we got
Speaker 4: at like, I'm there at five o'clock.
Speaker 1: So you like, I can't wait to go to sleep?
Speaker 1: I love sleep?
Speaker 3: I started I hate. I mean, I'm afraid that sleep is.
Speaker 3: I feel like me is saying like, oh man, I
Speaker 3: can't wait to go to bed?
Speaker 1: Is life of time?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just feel like it's me admitting that
Speaker 3: I'm getting up there like I used to be proud to, like, ah,
Speaker 3: five days in a row, I've been out.
Speaker 4: No, dude, we had remember Grace Jones just came on
Speaker 4: the show and she goes, I go, uhh.
Speaker 1: She goes, what are you doing tonight? I go, this
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going home. I'm probably just gonna eat
Speaker 4: something to go to bed. She's like, oh man, I go,
Speaker 4: You're not doing that. She's like, no, I gotta I
Speaker 4: got a show tonight. And then after the show, we're
Speaker 4: going to uh something, some club. I go, you still
Speaker 4: got the clubs? She's like, yeah, oh yeah, I go.
Speaker 4: What time do you get home. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: four or five. She's like, I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 4: with this generation. I'll go to bed too early. I'm like,
Speaker 4: Grace Jones still just stays out the five in the morning.
Speaker 4: I go, oh my god, I wouldn't even know what
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: I would have no clue. Well, yeah, I'm just I
Speaker 1: love sleep now, and I hate to admit that. I
Speaker 1: love It's the greatest thing.
Speaker 4: That's the one thing you can get me for my birthday,
Speaker 4: for Christmas or anything I can can get sleep. Oh,
Speaker 4: I would love sleep, man, that would be.
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, there's coupon.
Speaker 3: One time, I thought Tarik was joking, but he had
Speaker 3: these coupons made for like and then interrupted, no tek
Speaker 3: fix this or Dad, I need help with that, Like
Speaker 3: that was his birthday gift, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that with my parents when
Speaker 1: I was a kid.
Speaker 4: I made them coupons. Yeah, I'm like, oh, so they
Speaker 4: can leave you alone, or so I could leave themone
Speaker 4: or help them out, like you use this coupon whenever
Speaker 4: you want me to go, Like, I'll you know, wash
Speaker 4: the car, I'll do whatever.
Speaker 1: I'll do instead of just regularly regularly regula chores. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: All right. So you of course mentioned your your dad's
Speaker 3: affinity and love for do wop music.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I grew up with it, loved it.
Speaker 1: What's the first single do you remember purchasing? Oh Man
Speaker 1: non do or just in general? Verse forty five. So
Speaker 1: like his record collection was your record collection?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So what was your favorite of his
Speaker 1: of his record collection?
Speaker 4: Of your dad trying to learn harmony to the song
Speaker 4: called Zoom because like zoom.
Speaker 3: Zoom zoom zoom zoom to zoom zoom zoom, zoom, zoomzoom,
Speaker 3: zoom zoom zoom zoom, the same format I've never heard
Speaker 3: this all my life, but I knew.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to.
Speaker 4: So he would try to teach me and my sister
Speaker 4: to sing zoom so we could like harmonize and be like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know the Osmonds or whatever sometimes
Speaker 4: or Donnie Man. No, I was Marie, but I was.
Speaker 4: It's like, so my sister immediately was like, I'm out.
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't get harmony. I don't like this,
Speaker 4: I'm out of the out of the group. But me
Speaker 4: and my dad were even rebel. Yeah, Gloria was the rep.
Speaker 4: So me and my dad could sing zoom pretty well.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so that was just I would just start learning
Speaker 4: all these harmonies and then getting in the trick your
Speaker 4: harmonies and trying to like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I just loved it.
Speaker 3: I just so would he would he go to all
Speaker 3: those like Dick Fox productions of like at Westbury Music
Speaker 3: Fear Do Wop, yeah kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I grew up Sagerty Is, New York, which is upstate
Speaker 4: by Kingston, Pokeepsie, Woodstock that area. So there was a
Speaker 4: place called uh Ulster Performing Arts Center, you pack, and
Speaker 4: they would have oldie shows there and so I would
Speaker 4: go to see My first concert concert was Weird Al Yankovic,
Speaker 4: but my first kind of venture into concert was with
Speaker 4: the whole family. We went to a Doop show and
Speaker 4: I saw, like, oh gosh, you know.
Speaker 1: Chances are it was a Dick Fox production. Yeah, Larry
Speaker 1: Chance and the Earls were there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Joey D and the Starlight star Lighters
Speaker 3: all right. So now many people know that Hendrick used
Speaker 3: to play in Joey Dean and the star Lighters.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, Hendricks.
Speaker 3: Joey always tells that story, like when when I see him.
Speaker 3: Joey D had a son that was in the Starlight.
Speaker 1: It was just my age.
Speaker 3: And so at one point in nineteen eighty five, my
Speaker 3: dad had this idea like, Okay, we're gonna get Joey
Speaker 3: D's son, gary Us Bond's daughter. Uh but my middle
Speaker 3: name is middle sister, right right, his.
Speaker 1: Two nieces, my sister and I.
Speaker 3: It was like a eight It was like an eight
Speaker 3: eight kid group of all Duop legends, and they wanted
Speaker 3: to call it UBI the next generation, like.
Speaker 1: Re Redo do call it UBI.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we were redoing Duop, but it
Speaker 3: was just a thing like let's put a supergroup together.
Speaker 1: Of all, like the Legends.
Speaker 3: We did one session at the studio that's now that
Speaker 3: used to be Sony on fifty fourth and eleventh Avenue,
Speaker 3: So somewhere in their files in nineteen eighty six there's
Speaker 3: like a four song oldies doop demo from the Legends
Speaker 3: of Duop. I think that was like my first studio
Speaker 3: session ever. No way, yeah, And was it a cappella?
Speaker 3: Was a duop or is it? No?
Speaker 1: We played like I drummed and see I could see
Speaker 1: that working.
Speaker 4: But that's because I think I grew up brainwashed that
Speaker 4: duop was the only music.
Speaker 1: I thought, right right. My parents tricked me as well, because.
Speaker 4: Well, my dad was in Vietnam, so he was like
Speaker 4: he had these real, real tapes of him and his
Speaker 4: group on the ship singing duop. So I always thought
Speaker 4: that Vietnam everyone sang duop songs. And then I'm watching
Speaker 4: these movies I watch Apocalypse Now or whatever, and no
Speaker 4: one's singing any duop, And I'm like, I'm here like
Speaker 4: the doors, and right, I go, what is this music?
Speaker 4: I know for a fact people sang duop until she
Speaker 4: turns out my dad was just like a nerd to me.
Speaker 1: No, we got tricked. Man.
Speaker 3: We got trick because in my first grade class, my
Speaker 3: first homework assignment was bringing in your favorite forty five.
Speaker 3: The next day, everyone came in with contemporary stuff and
Speaker 3: he gibbs, I just want to be everything disco duck yeah,
Speaker 3: rick d's all that stuff. And I came in with why.
Speaker 1: Do Fools fall in love? Why fools?
Speaker 3: And my teachers were like, oh, this is from my era,
Speaker 3: and none of the kids knew my record, and right
Speaker 3: my teacher explained like, well, a mere like when I
Speaker 3: was your age, this is what I listened to.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking like, how come what this doesn't residentate you?
Speaker 4: If you guys this happened to me, but such later
Speaker 4: in life, I was like, I was actually in high
Speaker 4: school or college.
Speaker 1: People do that now.
Speaker 3: I remember at one point U Kamal decided that he
Speaker 3: was going to make his kids think that Michael Jackson's
Speaker 3: Off the Wall was a brand new album. So I
Speaker 3: know kids that do that now, like just put their
Speaker 3: kids in the time warp and don't listen.
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing for doing it. Yeah, did it
Speaker 1: work for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, it's weird now because I'll say that of all
Speaker 3: the roots kids Kamal's kids are the weirdest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his daughter now, as.
Speaker 3: This taping, your your Grateful Dead experience will be over.
Speaker 3: But Kamal's oldest daughter is and she I think she
Speaker 3: just turned twenty. She's like a total deadhead, like she
Speaker 3: knows American beauty. She went to college one year and
Speaker 3: then they just put her onto like the first four
Speaker 3: Grateful Dead records because she have all these quotes on
Speaker 3: her social media.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, what do you know about
Speaker 1: Cherry Carcia. Dude.
Speaker 4: I think it's changed my life a little bit. I've
Speaker 4: never listened to him at all, and I'm really into it.
Speaker 4: I dig it, I get it all right, I totally
Speaker 4: get it. And then Kamal's son is straight up country
Speaker 4: what yo? No, I think your kids.
Speaker 3: Your kids are going to be the total opposite of
Speaker 3: what you are, which explains it because even Kirk's son
Speaker 3: is into like the hardest trap.
Speaker 1: Music of all time.
Speaker 3: Really, Like, when when certain acts come on the show
Speaker 3: and kirk Son doesn't show up, I'm like, Yo, you
Speaker 3: didn't want to see da da Da da da.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, nah, that's too commercial for me. I'm
Speaker 1: like what, like, like the underground.
Speaker 3: He if it's if it's it's two mainstream, he won't
Speaker 3: he won't mess with it.
Speaker 4: I just realized I got to teach when he had
Speaker 4: to dance because we went to this Halloween party and
Speaker 4: they're like.
Speaker 1: First grader dance competition. Who wants to dance?
Speaker 4: And she goes, well, I have to go, dad, it's
Speaker 4: first dance competition.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you really know how to dance?
Speaker 4: And dude, they played like everybody dance now, and she
Speaker 4: just stood there and kind of.
Speaker 1: Like walked back and forth.
Speaker 4: It's really stiff, and the dude next to her was
Speaker 4: like doing backspins and flips and like moonwalking. And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, my kid does not know
Speaker 4: how to dance.
Speaker 1: I got a teach her. How your kids discover YouTube? Yet? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they got it.
Speaker 3: I mean YouTube's a slippery slope because you don't want
Speaker 3: them controlling, like what the search.
Speaker 4: I was watching one thing and I just said, hey,
Speaker 4: maybe no more YouTube because it was no it was
Speaker 4: like adults moving toys around and doing voices for dolls
Speaker 4: like that's it, dude. And they were obsessed with this
Speaker 4: show and it's like it's the any parent out there
Speaker 4: knows what I'm talking about. It is the creepiest thing ever.
Speaker 4: There's like a hand will hold like a pop patrol
Speaker 4: doll and be like, hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: And they play with dolls and the kids just watch
Speaker 4: it like like it's them playing with dolls and it's
Speaker 4: the It goes on for hours on a loop on.
Speaker 1: YouTube, and kids like it.
Speaker 4: I don't know how they found it, but they loved it.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, dude, we gotta take it.
Speaker 4: We gotta watch something with the beginning, middle, end, a plot.
Speaker 1: Anything. You can watch anything, but not this. What's it called?
Speaker 4: I have no idea what it's called. But I almost
Speaker 4: want to sue these people.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't like it. I don't want it
Speaker 1: in my house. Now, you just gotta show a bunch
Speaker 1: of dance clips on you know.
Speaker 4: You really know how to play music for them, because
Speaker 4: it's just like Alexa or you know, or you know,
Speaker 4: show them soul training.
Speaker 1: I should. I gotta get put on.
Speaker 3: Trust me a good soul tiraying clip. They will emulate it.
Speaker 3: That's how everyone in America learns how to dance.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how they learned. Hey, do you remember the
Speaker 3: first mixtape you ever made for someone?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's a big deal. How long did it
Speaker 1: take you to craft it? Oh?
Speaker 4: I mean plussing play record and pause and having the
Speaker 4: record startup. And it wasn't even a great mixtape. It
Speaker 4: was just my stuff, which is all weird stuff. And
Speaker 4: I would take it because I had this thing when
Speaker 4: I was a kid that I didn't and this is
Speaker 4: you could ask my sister. I wouldn't let anyone copy
Speaker 4: my music. Why Because I thought it would affect a
Speaker 4: record industry.
Speaker 1: Wait what?
Speaker 4: Because I must have seen someone talk about it on
Speaker 4: TV or so. I said, you're gonna ruin the record industry.
Speaker 4: If you record a song, if you take my song,
Speaker 4: you have to buy the record. You can't just take
Speaker 4: the song off of by record that eyebought. That he's
Speaker 4: gonna ruin the industry. And my sister was like, you're
Speaker 4: the worst, You're the weirdest kid. And so I would
Speaker 4: have to take my music to the party. I play
Speaker 4: my mixtape, then I take the tape home. I would
Speaker 4: just I would own my mixtapes.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't give it to no one, No, I would,
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't give it to anyone, not even
Speaker 3: my sister. I'm like, man, yeah, I was the opposite.
Speaker 3: I feel I am Spotify. Like the the the amount
Speaker 3: of work I don't have to do now in the
Speaker 3: age of streaming is mind boggling, because back when you
Speaker 3: had to make mixtapes and mix you have.
Speaker 1: To listen to the whole song.
Speaker 3: I was the guy you had to come to to
Speaker 3: make whatever, Like I was the king of mixtape making.
Speaker 1: But you never made a mixtape for anyone.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I might have done like earlier, because
Speaker 4: I remember I used to listen to the radio all
Speaker 4: the time that was like I loved it. I had
Speaker 4: a boombox and I'm trying to think of the brand
Speaker 4: the brand name of my boom box.
Speaker 1: I forget.
Speaker 4: I mean I remember it in my brain looking at it.
Speaker 4: Listen to this radio station, have play record and pause
Speaker 4: just there, just in case.
Speaker 1: A song came on the radio.
Speaker 4: Ghostbusters was my jam. I was like Ray Parker Junior, Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: If I hear that, I would run over and like
Speaker 4: try to record it.
Speaker 1: And I was like oh, And then like I remember.
Speaker 4: Listening to another like my dad would play radio and
Speaker 4: I would bring the boom box over to his speaker
Speaker 4: so I could record the song from his speaker onto
Speaker 4: my cassette player so I can tape it that way,
Speaker 4: like if there was like a special Beatles thing. I
Speaker 4: was really into the Beatles at one point, right, So
Speaker 4: I had those type of mixtapes. And then I remember
Speaker 4: listening to Doctor Demento. Do you know him at all?
Speaker 3: That's how weird Out got to start, right, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: he's just you was the legend of Doctor Demento.
Speaker 4: He played novelty songs and novelty records, so any comedy
Speaker 4: song there was a whole mess, a whole different. They
Speaker 4: don't do it anymore as much, but in the seventies,
Speaker 4: especially in the eighties, it was all comedy joke songs
Speaker 4: like that was the birth of weird al But it
Speaker 4: was like Steve Martin, you know, doing King Tut that
Speaker 4: was like it charted, that's all duck. Yeah, that disco
Speaker 4: Duck was a hit. So I mean, that's a novelty record,
Speaker 4: all these like but.
Speaker 1: Do you remember he was just played novelty records.
Speaker 4: Do you remember the coasters they had that song well,
Speaker 4: jobing cad like what dun It was called beat beep,
Speaker 4: and then by the end of the song it gets faster.
Speaker 4: So it's like they that that don that then that
Speaker 4: bet beep, bet beep, the hormone beat beep beep, and
Speaker 4: now I'm going to one hundred and so it was
Speaker 4: like a song about a race, but the song it
Speaker 4: was not a real it was it was like a
Speaker 4: novelty song. But it was a hit really and it
Speaker 4: was Yeah, so all these songs, so he would play
Speaker 4: all these kind of weird songs like that and very
Speaker 4: it was very more seventies than anything else. But I
Speaker 4: would listen to that Sunday nights and and and just
Speaker 4: try to record all these funny songs and then see
Speaker 4: if I can start writing them myself.
Speaker 1: See you write them down and perform The.
Speaker 4: First song, my first parody song I ever wrote, was awful.
Speaker 1: But it was what's your what's your deft? Do money?
Speaker 1: This is bad? Do you remember King Kong Bundy was
Speaker 1: a rapper. I was a wrestler, so I did.
Speaker 4: I wish it was King Kong Bundy instead of Manic Monday,
Speaker 4: Like I wish it was King Kong Bun. Oh, that
Speaker 4: would be a fun or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it was like it was awful.
Speaker 3: And I remember writing it like and I had my eraser,
Speaker 3: my papermate eraser mate, uh, and like rewriting the lyrics,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm writing like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be weird al and that's what I and I
Speaker 3: remember writing it.
Speaker 4: It was just I thought it was so clever and fun.
Speaker 4: Then I was too embarrassed. Couldn't play for anybody?
Speaker 1: What year weird out? Did you see? What period is
Speaker 1: there to be stupid? Did dare to be stupid? Tour?
Speaker 4: I had a teal concert tee, no sleeve concert tea.
Speaker 4: That's what I That's what I bought.
Speaker 1: What was I doing? I just I wanted to be
Speaker 1: you know, this is pre Zach Morris. But I was
Speaker 1: like I would have.
Speaker 4: That or gosh my wardrobe. I was trying to be
Speaker 4: as fashionable as I could as a kid. And you know,
Speaker 4: growing up in Sorrtyes, New York, was this you and
Speaker 4: going to this concert? Order was there?
Speaker 1: He was? But he was not, No, he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: wasn't my best friend yet. Okay, but now.
Speaker 4: Geri's talking about Gerard Bradford who woods on our show
Speaker 4: as a producer, and uh, but I we started hanging
Speaker 4: out more. I'd say probably the end of high school
Speaker 4: when we're getting into the Beastie Boys and started like
Speaker 4: we had a bad We had a fake rap.
Speaker 1: Group that was terrible. What was the name of the group.
Speaker 4: We were called the minute Man and I don't know why,
Speaker 4: and we not even knowing there already was a punk
Speaker 4: band called the minute Man. We were we just thought
Speaker 4: and I can't even tell you it's honestly, this is worse.
Speaker 1: Than uh deft deaf money. Dude.
Speaker 4: My name was Jim Hat and.
Speaker 1: The room is explosive there.
Speaker 3: I was like Jim Hat with that B Boys style
Speaker 3: was going wild.
Speaker 1: Dude, it was awful.
Speaker 3: I thought, Jim Hat, know, like that makes logical sense.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have wanted to be Colgate. I thought that
Speaker 3: would be a cool rap name.
Speaker 1: Colgate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I thought people could have the logo on
Speaker 4: the shirt, like the toothpaste.
Speaker 1: And they still make Colgate. Yeah half Coldgate. Still. I
Speaker 1: don't you know.
Speaker 3: One day, like whenever I land in l a X,
Speaker 3: the first time I make is that I go to
Speaker 3: pharmacy to do the trial size stuff like the things
Speaker 3: I need tooth plus tooth pigs.
Speaker 1: And I was just noticing like brands that only exist there.
Speaker 3: Well no, well brands that I thought were out of
Speaker 3: you know, like Safeguard or.
Speaker 4: Like they trail like seventies brands. Yeah, Cam, they still
Speaker 4: they exist in trial size.
Speaker 1: So what other what.
Speaker 3: Other concerts did you go to when you were uh
Speaker 3: uh weird? I saw oh gosh, it was that Upax.
Speaker 3: So there was that group that's saying expose, come go
Speaker 3: with me. Woa you saw XO.
Speaker 4: They had a song that was really I loved it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't come go with me, but it.
Speaker 1: Was a point and overturn.
Speaker 3: Yes the planet. Uh you're taking me right, yeah? And
Speaker 3: they had seasons change, seasons change.
Speaker 1: I love that song.
Speaker 3: I was a member of Columbia House to me too,
Speaker 3: but I was the I would never return the all right.
Speaker 3: So for those that don't know what Columbia House and
Speaker 3: all your kids you missed out. If you, yeah, this
Speaker 3: this was our Spotify you you were. Basically they will
Speaker 3: offer you twelve cassettes or CDs.
Speaker 1: For a penny.
Speaker 3: You would tape Scott's tape of Penny, Scotch tape of
Speaker 3: Penny to the to the order form, pick your pick
Speaker 3: your twelve CDs or cassettes you want it, and then
Speaker 3: for an extra three, for an additional three records, you
Speaker 3: had to I forgot what the check was like for
Speaker 3: you know, for a dollar ninety eight more, you can
Speaker 3: get three more, see so you can get fifteen altogether,
Speaker 3: or under the lolow price of three bucks.
Speaker 1: And then you were part of.
Speaker 3: This club in which every month they would send you
Speaker 3: product and you had, yeah, like two weeks to mail it.
Speaker 4: Not even yeah something like that. Yeah, either liked it
Speaker 4: or mail it back. If you kept it, it was like
Speaker 4: twenty bucks a record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you kept it, it was definitely like seventeen
Speaker 3: ninety nine or something like that.
Speaker 1: But if you mailed it back.
Speaker 3: And I think between that and the first two years
Speaker 3: of trying to catch Michael Jackson videos on MTV was
Speaker 3: how I developed my vocabulary for pop music because I
Speaker 3: would never mail back Debbie Gibson's out of the Blue or.
Speaker 1: Or Tiffany's first record. I think I got tricked into
Speaker 1: that one too. Yeah, I know, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think she thinks.
Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic, like I'm cool with her now, but
Speaker 3: in the beginning, I think in her mind it was like.
Speaker 1: What you're trying to told me what you're saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My first I was like, yeah, I had a blue
Speaker 3: eyed electric youth. Electric Youth I was the name of
Speaker 3: her first boar, right. I was like, no, I really was.
Speaker 3: I was a fan of yours and she was just
Speaker 3: looking like, Okaye's where's the where's as?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. She's cool though she didn't believe.
Speaker 3: She didn't believe it for the longest, but then I
Speaker 3: think she realized, like, oh you are.
Speaker 4: But every album back then I loved it, even if
Speaker 4: he had like one hit song on there. I remember
Speaker 4: I was trying to I didn't know what music I
Speaker 4: was going to be into, right, so I tried every
Speaker 4: type of genre and like, oh.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in the metal Is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, maybe I should like Worse with
Speaker 4: the Devil, and like, what am I talking about?
Speaker 1: I'm an altar boy.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think the weird thing is that
Speaker 3: I think between twelve and seventeen, you're open to anything,
Speaker 3: which you know I can't like now, I really have
Speaker 3: the patience to like sift through records and see what
Speaker 3: I'm into, and the way that I used to do
Speaker 3: back in the day, like I would listen to an
Speaker 3: entire Miami Salm Machine record, whether I like the song
Speaker 3: or not too because you didn't want to go up
Speaker 3: to the cassette and fast forward. Okay, I don't like
Speaker 3: this song, What's what else is it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: You would just play the whole thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Like, yeah, I don't want to. It's easier
Speaker 4: to lift the needle to move that back. But no,
Speaker 4: I would listen to the whole album. Then I'd like
Speaker 4: the B sides. I would know what song follows what
Speaker 4: song too, in order.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 3: That explains why sometimes when an artist comes on and
Speaker 3: then you ask for the deep cut and I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what what about the hit.
Speaker 1: The hit joint?
Speaker 3: And you like, nope, I want the Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: secret one that you go like, oh like like if
Speaker 3: you buy Cyndi Lauper, you just sing she Bop, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like, that's the that's the secret song off of
Speaker 3: Right the Girl?
Speaker 1: Right Right? Do you have top five like performances on
Speaker 1: the show for us?
Speaker 3: God, there's so much now we've been done, We've done
Speaker 3: so many shows now, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean you I have a top five.
Speaker 3: I have a top five of me performing and a
Speaker 3: top five of me watching was.
Speaker 4: One of your top five recently, dog Dude, Steve Miller.
Speaker 3: I almost sometimes It's it's hard not to because I'm
Speaker 3: so connected to music and the memories that it brings on.
Speaker 3: Because whenever I hear fly like an Eagle, I instantly
Speaker 3: think about the first month of school, and I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of like my parents not conning me, like Okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna take you to this brown building and you're gonna
Speaker 3: stay in here for the next seven hours and then
Speaker 3: we're gonna come and get you at three o'clock. And
Speaker 3: you know, like I was just never explaining the concept
Speaker 3: at school. It's just like, huh wait, I'm playing with them,
Speaker 3: and so I think during like one of those explanations,
Speaker 3: it was the radio was just playing like Billy Davis
Speaker 3: and Marilyn mccoo's you Don't Have to Be a Star,
Speaker 3: and then like.
Speaker 4: You am radio at this point, FM, uh you know what?
Speaker 3: So Philly, Philly was really good with FM radio on
Speaker 3: the weekends, though FM radio turned religious and then you'd
Speaker 3: have to live and listen to AM radio, so we'd
Speaker 3: have to switch a Wizard one hundred and the thing
Speaker 3: is is that I lived in a don't touch my
Speaker 3: stereo household. So again, a big part of my palette
Speaker 3: is the fact that I had to listen to what
Speaker 3: my sister wanted to listen to and what my dad.
Speaker 3: I didn't control the car radio nor in my bet
Speaker 3: you know the room that my sister and I shared,
Speaker 3: so like, I just remember.
Speaker 4: Like I remember pressing, like being able to press the
Speaker 4: button to my dad's car that would it would be
Speaker 4: a plastic, hard plastic button that you would actually switch
Speaker 4: the station. You would see the zip to the one
Speaker 4: side right and I actually tune. I mean this is
Speaker 4: pre digital scan and seek for something. It was actually
Speaker 4: press the button and you feel like gears moving right
Speaker 4: to the radio station that you want to. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, just to hope to hear like
Speaker 4: the Rolling Stones or something like that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so fly like an Eagle was definitely dide
Speaker 3: you crust that one.
Speaker 4: And I was like, dude, I actually had to look
Speaker 4: over to see what your face was doing, because usually
Speaker 4: I can't see the drummer I was doing.
Speaker 3: Every I had two moments in which I kind of
Speaker 3: had a I might cry moment. It was awesome, dude,
Speaker 3: it was honestly, it just clicked, like because you did
Speaker 3: the first like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the space.
Speaker 3: I had to beg for those extra because at first
Speaker 3: they were like three minutes and thirty seconds, you know, and.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, guys, not for this one.
Speaker 3: You don't understand, like the most important part of the
Speaker 3: song is like the beginning.
Speaker 1: We got to do that.
Speaker 3: So I did didn't did out. So it was so
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I didn't want to end. And he was
Speaker 3: having fun. Yeah, and he was having and he was
Speaker 3: so looking at it because you know, we have these
Speaker 3: guys on that like they don't play with anyone else
Speaker 3: but their band, and they're jaded and they're like, oh
Speaker 3: well look, it's almost feel like they're cheating on their band.
Speaker 3: But then when they see how much love and how
Speaker 3: much work you guys put into that song.
Speaker 1: Like Eddie Grant, oh, I forgot. He was so nervous.
Speaker 4: I know, he was so nervous, like Jimmy I, I
Speaker 4: I don't I only play with my band. I I'm
Speaker 4: these guys are great, but I don't know them, and
Speaker 4: you know, to play with my song, you know, Electric Avenue,
Speaker 4: And so he goes, do you remember you brought a harmonica.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh did you wait? When we're sound checking? Are
Speaker 3: you watching?
Speaker 4: On closer times? I'm watching, damn it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I am, but sometimes I'd like to be surprised.
Speaker 3: But during sound check it was like a ten minute
Speaker 3: version and we're like looking at each other while.
Speaker 4: I was like paying the harmonica do electric avenue?
Speaker 1: Like who is to blaming? I like, dude, stop.
Speaker 4: But so I saw him and he goes, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna bring this just in case. I go, Eddie,
Speaker 4: you don't need a harmonica. The roots will got you covered.
Speaker 4: Trust me, man, it's gonna me fun. And he did
Speaker 4: the song, didn't do harmonica, and the crush was great.
Speaker 4: And I went over to say thank you for being
Speaker 4: on the show and went to shake his hand, and
Speaker 4: what was in his hand?
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the case. You know what. It's also like
Speaker 1: a big part.
Speaker 3: I'm always nervous about the legend because one you don't
Speaker 3: want to ruin, like the thought in your head of like, uh,
Speaker 3: what's it gonna be or what's it not gonna be?
Speaker 3: It it's just that sometimes all right, I'll met We
Speaker 3: had one guess that walked away, do you remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Cindy yeah, just because I think, Okay, in our minds,
Speaker 3: in their minds, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna play with
Speaker 3: the roots. So they think like I'll take my song
Speaker 3: and filter it through and I'll rootify it. Like that's
Speaker 3: the one word we hear the most inside the rehearsal room,
Speaker 3: like you know, don't don't do the normal version like
Speaker 3: rootsify it. And I'm like, dude, what you don't get
Speaker 3: is that us routsifying it is doing it just like
Speaker 3: your album version. That is roots fact, because we we
Speaker 3: want the yeah, I mean, we want the exact sound.
Speaker 1: We want Eddie Grant to.
Speaker 4: Go out in the streets if he if he yeah,
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to do that anymore. He goes, I
Speaker 4: don't do that. I haven't done that for twenty five
Speaker 4: years ago. Bring it back.
Speaker 3: That's the part of the song that we love, those
Speaker 3: little nuggets, those little there just awesome little eggs, those
Speaker 3: easter eggs where you're like, oh no, that's the one
Speaker 3: part you gotta do like right, like on the Dark
Speaker 3: Side of Town, yeah or something, you didn't do that
Speaker 3: And he was like, uh, like when we have it,
Speaker 3: was it crowded house or something came on I'm like,
Speaker 3: all I want to hear is that base like go boo.
Speaker 3: That's freedom a little bit if you don't hit that baseline,
Speaker 3: and that's just I need that. It's part of my
Speaker 3: whole thing of loving that song.
Speaker 4: It's like, but we usually hit it like ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent of the time, right, We convinced the people to like,
Speaker 4: come on, you gotta do that part, and like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't hit that note anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Try it, just go because trust me, we'll get your back.
Speaker 4: And then they do it in its course.
Speaker 3: Well, probably the one humorous moment for us was definitely
Speaker 3: in the air tonight, where that was the only time
Speaker 3: I saw you being nervous, dude twice in my life.
Speaker 1: But I've talked myself into major sabotage. I was.
Speaker 3: I wasn't helping them like I well see, I didn't
Speaker 3: know about meditation back then. What I should have been
Speaker 3: doing was basically deep breathing, get out of your head,
Speaker 3: just hit these three times the way you've always done
Speaker 3: it all your life in the basement, And for some reason,
Speaker 3: right when Phil Collins is like and I remember, and
Speaker 3: I was like, don't mess up, don't mess it. I remember,
Speaker 3: don't worry, all right, don't fuck up, don't fuckus. How
Speaker 3: good I ever. I'm looking at Jimmy. Jimmy's looking left.
Speaker 4: I went from behind my desk to the front to
Speaker 4: look at your face.
Speaker 1: I know, love it, and I'm looking at the band
Speaker 1: standard for the roots members and.
Speaker 3: I always says silence up, oh boy, no using fool me.
Speaker 3: Oh dann cameras to me. He's looking at me the herd.
Speaker 3: So the pain still growing sustained. And I hit that
Speaker 3: symbol and was just drop a stick or something. No,
Speaker 3: my my my ride symbol.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I fell fell down, dude. It was the
Speaker 1: fell I broke in pieces.
Speaker 3: I was going to let it slide and just be
Speaker 3: like I'm going home. I failed and then shout out
Speaker 3: to Sugar Steve. Steve's like, no, man, I can't let
Speaker 3: this happen. We're going to fix this. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: we can't go back and tape it like it's over,
Speaker 3: and he says, I bet you. They have sound check
Speaker 3: on tape. So we basically spent at least an hours editing.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you remember that he was here. He was
Speaker 3: there to five of the board. We're the only show
Speaker 3: that gives that autonomy, like gives that power to guess
Speaker 3: to come and edit their own thing and mix their
Speaker 3: own thing. Yeah, any other show like I've done Letterman
Speaker 3: when I'm like, okay, so we want reverbal and you know,
Speaker 3: verse two.
Speaker 1: And then already and they're like it's already in burbank,
Speaker 1: can't touch it, right, They're like, nope, it's gone, that's done.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. And we let everyone like
Speaker 1: go in listen to it and mix it.
Speaker 4: But we usually we have the right sound between you know,
Speaker 4: we we have the best sound.
Speaker 3: I feel like we have the best sound mixing and engineering.
Speaker 3: Yeah that Al Simon stayed up until right before his segment,
Speaker 3: which is unheard of.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We were nervous because we got to deliver the show.
Speaker 4: And this is when we were doing twelve thirty five, right,
Speaker 4: so we had an extra hour. But it was like
Speaker 4: I think it was up to like it was actually
Speaker 4: up to midnight.
Speaker 3: Right, it was ripe two commercials before you were actually
Speaker 3: covering song. We spent we take that five or six, right,
Speaker 3: and he engineered it like it was a real song
Speaker 3: for five hours. It must be the best engineered song
Speaker 3: of all time.
Speaker 4: I don't even I kind of remember what it was
Speaker 4: that wasn't the one would stop?
Speaker 1: Was it? We don't even remember. That's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: just now I got to go back in the archives and.
Speaker 4: He really spent the time in that one. But but
Speaker 4: then back to the Phil Collins thing because you ended
Speaker 4: up nailing it on when you see it on TV,
Speaker 4: because oh man, a pack a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that to me, that that was a moment.
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that. I love Jim James. I
Speaker 4: was from Late Night. I love that.
Speaker 3: That's right, he did another life all his presentations whenever
Speaker 3: Jim James comes on.
Speaker 4: I also liked when you guys come when the roots
Speaker 4: come on and we spend extra time like making a
Speaker 4: production and it's actually it's.
Speaker 1: Almost like a music video or musical musical. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: three moments from that. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Once I realized that we had a lot of I
Speaker 3: didn't realize the power of how Dave is as a director,
Speaker 3: Dave Demti and and and directing and doing tricks and
Speaker 3: all those things. So I thought, like, I wonder how
Speaker 3: we could pull off a song that makes us look
Speaker 3: like we're playing in slow motion, like the Beastie Boys
Speaker 3: always do, like if it's so what you want. Video
Speaker 3: was like the impetus of it, like of them performing
Speaker 3: and you hearing the song in real time, but it's
Speaker 3: like them doing it slow motion.
Speaker 1: So when Usher was.
Speaker 3: On the show, yep, you know, I knew it was
Speaker 3: going to confuse the audience, like we had to do
Speaker 3: that Usher song like Chipmunks.
Speaker 4: Dude, it was like, and he's dancing really super fast and.
Speaker 3: He caught and he caught like he was dancing and
Speaker 3: really that's the thing I thought, like, do you need
Speaker 3: to practice this? Like do you need to figure out
Speaker 3: your splits and everything? It looks so weird and so
Speaker 3: you're almost laughing at.
Speaker 1: Him, right, But then when you watch it, it.
Speaker 3: Was, oh, it's magical, dude. He's like slow motion doing
Speaker 3: the perfect dance moves and.
Speaker 4: Singing on the you know, on the ring exactly right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was insane. That was That was a cool moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The second time, Tyler, Tyler, they created to See You
Speaker 3: Again with Caliuchis and he created this it was almost
Speaker 3: like a it's surreal musical, but it's it's to me.
Speaker 1: That was like a moment, dude, get we have to
Speaker 1: talk about Prince. There's there's too so many, there's so many. Yeah.
Speaker 3: For me, the best part of the Craziest Memory is
Speaker 3: definitely the Ping Pong with.
Speaker 4: The Pong story, but it even goes on before that.
Speaker 4: Do you remember bring me on stage at the garden.
Speaker 1: Oh, Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4: So Chris Rock comes on and he goes, he goes
Speaker 4: bah blah blah blah. He goes, well, of course, Prince
Speaker 4: is my favorite concert. I've never seen him. Go you've
Speaker 4: never seen Prince like you, you love music and you've
Speaker 4: never seen Prince in concert?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: How could you even say that you're a fan of?
Speaker 1: What do you? I can't talk to you until you
Speaker 1: see Prince? All right?
Speaker 4: And so I go, all right, I gotta go see
Speaker 4: Prince and you're like, dude, I can't believe you.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him.
Speaker 4: So anyways, I go to the Garden to see Prince
Speaker 4: and he is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He really is.
Speaker 4: I remember Madonna was at the concert in the audience
Speaker 4: watching Prince stoneface, just going like, wow, I got up
Speaker 4: my game. He's just so magical. And she's great too, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was, so he's crushing it. And Prince's manager or
Speaker 4: whoever this was, came up to me. Yeah, hi, I'm
Speaker 4: a Prince's manager. I don't even think it was. Caro
Speaker 4: was someone to say, like, Prince would really love you
Speaker 4: to get on stage at the end of the concert
Speaker 4: and dance with him, like he gets a bunch of
Speaker 4: celebrity friends and to go on stage and dancing at
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 1: I go, that's not really my thing. I'm not really
Speaker 1: a big dancer. But thank you.
Speaker 4: So I'll just watch the concert. Next song, someone else
Speaker 4: comes out like, hy, how you doing. I'm working for
Speaker 4: a princess A different person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different person. I go, Prince would really love for you.
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I mean I was not really my thing, and I
Speaker 4: don't even think he really wants me to dance with
Speaker 4: him anyways, So that happens to me maybe two more
Speaker 4: times during the whole concert. End of the concert. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I see you, because I didn't see it. If the
Speaker 4: whole concert, I go, what's up, dude, And you go,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get on stage at the end of the concert.
Speaker 1: I go, oh, if you're getting up there, I'll go
Speaker 1: up with you.
Speaker 4: Then, so they all right, So you get up, I
Speaker 4: get up, you go behind a dry set.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And as I get up and you get behind drus set,
Speaker 4: Prince leaves. He's keep his he's on a keyboard, and
Speaker 4: he goes and sinks.
Speaker 3: Into the state side of the st and I could
Speaker 3: see him down there, almost getting in his limousine right there,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, and I'm looking around. There's no one
Speaker 3: else on stage dancing but me right, it's just me
Speaker 3: dancing and you're playing. I go, oh, Mike, that's exactly
Speaker 3: why I don't say yes to this stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think it kind of started there, and then
Speaker 4: when Prince came on the show, it was always fun.
Speaker 4: So Prince came on the show and is, uh, probably
Speaker 4: is Kiran his manager, Yeah, says hey, Prince would really
Speaker 4: like to play ping pong on the show. So we go, okay,
Speaker 4: we don't really play ping pong. We played beer pong,
Speaker 4: but if he wants to play ping pong, it's fine.
Speaker 4: Then he calls back and he goes, you know what,
Speaker 4: Prince does not want to play beer pong on the show.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to play ping pong. We go, okay, whatever,
Speaker 4: he just come on play music as long as he
Speaker 4: has fun, we're good. He calls back. He goes, Prince
Speaker 4: does want to play ping pong. We rethought about it. Okay,
Speaker 4: we'll have it ready to go just in case. Calls back.
Speaker 4: He goes, he doesn't. He wants to play ping pong,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't want to play it on camera. He
Speaker 4: wants to do it, and I go, what's your obsession?
Speaker 4: He goes, he just thinks, Jimmy, be fun to play
Speaker 4: ping pong with. I go, whatever, we'll have it ready
Speaker 4: to go if he wants to play backstage whatever.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: So he comes on the show, never brings up ping pong,
Speaker 4: doesn't even mention it all right, just comes on and plays.
Speaker 4: He's great and he and he leaves and it was
Speaker 4: a great show and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: I go, that was interesting. So I tell the story
Speaker 1: on the show about the.
Speaker 4: Whole ping pong thing, and I go, by the way,
Speaker 4: the Prince, if you're watching, I would probably kick your
Speaker 4: ass in ping.
Speaker 1: Pong or something like that, all right, just joking around.
Speaker 1: So then I think that week I'm at the dinner.
Speaker 3: Right, and so this is the rare night no this
Speaker 3: when Whinnie oh, whenn he was being born, so I
Speaker 3: get a call. It was around that time. I just
Speaker 3: remember like it was any moment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I get a call at ten pm. Now I
Speaker 3: think I was sick this night, because this is one
Speaker 3: of the rare times I was in bed at like
Speaker 3: ten third on a school night or whatever. And they're like,
Speaker 3: Prince wants to play Jimmy now at Susan Sarandon's ping
Speaker 3: pong spot. Yes, Spin Spin, And I was just like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: you know he's about to have a kid.
Speaker 1: Da da da dah, So yeah, I'll let him know.
Speaker 3: And then like a minute later they're like, well he's uh,
Speaker 3: you know, he's down to do it right now if
Speaker 3: you know available, And I was like, oh, maybe I
Speaker 3: didn't get the message. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: Jimmy's about to have a kid, so yeah, it might
Speaker 3: you know, it might be busy or whatever. And then
Speaker 3: a minute later he says, Okay, well just name the
Speaker 3: time and place and you know he'll be there. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, they're just not listening or not taking
Speaker 3: a note for an answer. Yeah, So I was like
Speaker 3: I'm not going to answer this. I went to bed
Speaker 3: for like twenty minutes and over my eyes, and I
Speaker 3: was like, don't let me at least tell Jimmy. So
Speaker 3: then I texted you. I said, hey, uh, Prince wants
Speaker 3: to play you in ping pong. So I had no
Speaker 3: idea this whole exchange that you just went through. I said,
Speaker 3: for some strange reason, he wants to play in ping
Speaker 3: pong at Susan Sarandom spot. And I told him that
Speaker 3: you're tied up with baby stuff. So anyway, just passing
Speaker 3: the message along cool. I had no idea that you
Speaker 3: were going to answer that message.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was out. I was out to dinner
Speaker 4: that night. Okay, I wasn't because it wasn't yet that
Speaker 4: it was close to it.
Speaker 1: It was close to it.
Speaker 4: I knew any moment that it was, any moment I
Speaker 4: had to be on the ready for Winny to be born.
Speaker 4: But I was out to dinner that night. I'm like, what,
Speaker 4: And then I got a text from his manager or something,
Speaker 4: So you gave him.
Speaker 1: Did it happen that night or the next night? It
Speaker 1: happened soon.
Speaker 4: I think it happened that night, right because I got
Speaker 4: a text from their manager right and saying like, hey,
Speaker 4: this princess manager, Princess at spin He wants to play
Speaker 4: you in ping pong right now.
Speaker 1: So I go, it's the weirdest thing. I go.
Speaker 4: So I told the first time having dinner with him, Like,
Speaker 4: all right, I gotta go. Man, Prince wants to play
Speaker 4: me in ping pong and I'm gonna meet him at
Speaker 4: the Spin at Susan Random's Club. So I leave, I I,
Speaker 4: you know, get in a cab and I go down
Speaker 4: the Spin and I go out.
Speaker 3: I go into the door and go down the steps
Speaker 3: and there's a girl working there and I go, hi,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm here to see uh, and she goes friends.
Speaker 1: I goes, yeah, she goes, he's right behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: He's in the private room over there.
Speaker 4: I go, all right, So I go and there's a
Speaker 4: good We have a velvet room. There's a velvet rope
Speaker 4: and a curtain, and I go past the rope and
Speaker 4: I open the curtain and he's Prince is standing there
Speaker 4: and a crushed blue velvet suit, wearing the high heeled
Speaker 4: right shoes and he's holding a ping pong old paddle and.
Speaker 1: He looked at me. He goes, you ready to do?
Speaker 1: And I go, oh my gosh, I go, I guess
Speaker 1: so sure? He goes, wanna warm up.
Speaker 4: I go, uh, yeah, I warm up a little bit,
Speaker 4: like in my head, I don't even play ping pong, right,
Speaker 4: you know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: So we start warming up a little bit.
Speaker 4: If he had two ends in the room, he goes,
Speaker 4: everybody leave, everyone go go, so it's just me and Prince.
Speaker 1: Right, so everyone had to leave the room.
Speaker 4: It was just me and Prince and nobody else. And
Speaker 4: he goes, all right, you ready, I go, let's start.
Speaker 4: So he hits the first he's like, hits it over
Speaker 4: and it goes and it just it was a good
Speaker 4: shot and I didn't hit it back. He goes, one's
Speaker 4: it and I go, oh, you're can talk smack or right,
Speaker 4: and this is gonna happen twenty one points, says dude,
Speaker 4: this man, let's go, Prince.
Speaker 1: So I go.
Speaker 4: So we start playing, you know, hitting back and forth.
Speaker 4: It was he's crushing me. So I think now it's
Speaker 4: like twenty to ten or something like that. He's killing me.
Speaker 4: And he goes, uh, game point.
Speaker 3: I go, let's let's go, man, and he hits the
Speaker 3: shot and it's like and it's like beautiful, perfect shot,
Speaker 3: and the PAINSTI on spin and spit flames coming off
Speaker 3: it and it hits the hits that corner of the
Speaker 3: table that's just impossible to hit the you know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking like a perfect shot, and went flying behind
Speaker 3: me and I go, ah, you won, you one. And
Speaker 3: I go and I'm looking in the background to find
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 1: I take up the blall.
Speaker 4: I turn around and he's gone, and he's not there.
Speaker 4: And I don't know him that well.
Speaker 1: So I thought maybe he was hiding or something.
Speaker 4: No, so I'm like, Prince Prime, Prince prince some like
Speaker 4: looking under the pink punk table like there's security footage.
Speaker 3: I look like crazy. I was like, is he hiding
Speaker 3: behind a curtain? I don't know him, but I don't
Speaker 3: know the type of sense of humor.
Speaker 4: He's funny, but I was like, but then I look
Speaker 4: and kind of rope is kind of moving almost.
Speaker 1: Like Batman in the door swiveling yeah yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: window side. I go to the girl, I go, did
Speaker 1: he shees? Yeah? He left.
Speaker 4: I go, okay, So then I went up and up
Speaker 4: the stairs on the street.
Speaker 3: So me, being notoriost lye late for everything, I got
Speaker 3: back from a DJ gig and got your text that
Speaker 3: about to play prints right now. I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: on my way over. So I drive to Manhattan to
Speaker 3: spin get out the car, and I forget who from
Speaker 3: the show was outside smoking a cigarette. But I run
Speaker 3: and I was like, am I too late? Am I
Speaker 3: too late? And she's like, wait, you just miss him?
Speaker 3: That that was him? And I looked, uh in the
Speaker 3: street and in the STUV he was there and pulling
Speaker 3: off to a red light. I was like, hey on
Speaker 3: wait and I run and straight up great Poupon style,
Speaker 3: I'm like knocking on the door and the window rose
Speaker 3: down slowly and I was like, wait, it's over, It's over.
Speaker 1: What happened? And seriously he's a ask you boy?
Speaker 3: And then this thing, the window goes slowly up, just
Speaker 3: like the Great Poupon conversial just takes off and takes off.
Speaker 3: The only thing I noticed that he had the paddle
Speaker 3: with him. Yeah, and it was a gold paddle. And
Speaker 3: later did I learned that he is that obsessed with it.
Speaker 3: We did a show with him in Carousel. Uh we will,
Speaker 3: I'll rephrase that. We were supposed to do a show
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: We did it. We showed up with him.
Speaker 3: There's the weirdest lineup ever Dinah Ross, Toto, Los Lobos, Dude,
Speaker 3: Dinah Ross who booked this God Dinah Ross, Los Lobos,
Speaker 3: Toto Journey, Prince the Roots Carousel and he was supposed
Speaker 3: to do a three hour set then the Roots, right, yeah, nah,
Speaker 3: friends don't play that. Princes wound up doing a five
Speaker 3: hour set and we like definantly like we still don't,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to like, yeah, we still want to perform,
Speaker 3: and we did like one and a half. We just
Speaker 3: stopped this only all right, y'all want to see Okay,
Speaker 3: We'll just.
Speaker 1: Do this until just to the hit go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like at this point in the middle, No,
Speaker 3: the place holds like eight thousand people.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, it was like thirty five people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all split one's Princes left like we just got
Speaker 1: like yeah to see Okay.
Speaker 4: But what's the one that the DJ night with Prince?
Speaker 1: Remember that one? That one? Yeah it was he he h.
Speaker 1: That's the best story ever heard. I love that.
Speaker 3: I was okay, So I was on I was on
Speaker 3: a blind date and I wanted to appear cool, to
Speaker 3: be cool, and so I asked this, you know, like, uh,
Speaker 3: I got tickets to Prince, you want to see it,
Speaker 3: and I had ten tickets, and me, not thinking I invited,
Speaker 3: I said, oh, I got ten tickets, so I invited
Speaker 3: ten of my friends. I never counted myself as one
Speaker 3: of the ten. So when we get there, it was like,
Speaker 3: here's your ticket, here's your ticket, here's your ticket, here's
Speaker 3: your ticket. And I was like nine, oh fuck so
Speaker 3: and this is beyond sold out. So they're in. And
Speaker 3: I had the number of his assistant and so I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm on a date and I forgot to buy myself
Speaker 3: a ticket. Decided to explain the whole thing, and she's like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: like no one can get in, like you know everyone else.
Speaker 3: Sharpton was trying to come down. Spike Lee was trying
Speaker 3: to say please, anything ready or trouble. So he just
Speaker 3: happened to be in his own custom golf cart in
Speaker 3: Philly doing like forty miles an hour in a golf cart,
Speaker 3: like not doing donuts, but like like that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, just tell him straight up.
Speaker 3: I said, look, I made a mistake that d DA,
Speaker 3: I had ten friends. I forgot to include myself in
Speaker 3: the ten. Can I sit somewhere please? And he was
Speaker 3: just like, all right, cool, you can sit on the
Speaker 3: stage under the stage. So the way that that stage
Speaker 3: is designed like his name, Like it's a thirteen foot
Speaker 3: tall stage, and so I'm literally sitting under the arrow
Speaker 3: that is his name. Meanwhile, my dates like sitting with
Speaker 3: my friends in the audience, but I'm sitting like under
Speaker 3: the stage. And mid show, his assistant comes by and says,
Speaker 3: Prince wants you to throw him a party, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I have no resource, like right now. He
Speaker 3: said yeah tonight, and I was like, well, well I
Speaker 3: would have to. Yeah, you can use our phones. But
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to miss the concert. And now
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I'm working for Prince now, so I'm
Speaker 3: like leaving my concert.
Speaker 1: Going into you gotta throw them a party.
Speaker 3: Right, So I called my friends who I normally do
Speaker 3: parties with in Philly. I was like, look, Prince, hang
Speaker 3: on a second, he wants what pool table. Okay, hey,
Speaker 3: Prince wants to do a party tonight. So in like
Speaker 3: four hours, can you find me a spot? They said,
Speaker 3: we on the spot. I said, okay, now he wants
Speaker 3: a pool table. They're like, well, this is a five
Speaker 3: story walk up.
Speaker 4: Can't please?
Speaker 3: Can we please just make this happen, please, please, So
Speaker 3: they had to find a detachable pool table to carry
Speaker 3: up five flights of stairs. So then I rush home,
Speaker 3: get my records ready, get there. You know, Prince is
Speaker 3: like elate party. So this party's not starting to like
Speaker 3: one pint thirty and it's ten of us and we're inside,
Speaker 3: and basically he wants to control the door. And you know,
Speaker 3: there's a whole group of people waiting outside, but they're inside.
Speaker 3: There's only like seventy people club shit hold about three hundred. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So I'm playing like a bunch of like Faylile, you know,
Speaker 3: West African funk music, and I'm thinking, like, okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna educate Prince on falaile.
Speaker 1: He likes James Brown, he likes George.
Speaker 3: Clinton, and play the original you know, West African guy
Speaker 3: to funk and he'll be into it. And Prince wasn't
Speaker 3: into it. He was just like what else he got?
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I played another failure song?
Speaker 1: What else you got?
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, He's like, play some of your
Speaker 3: music and I was like, I never played the roots
Speaker 3: in the club, Like I'm just scared to do that.
Speaker 1: Because it's instant club.
Speaker 3: So I'm failing and I'm twenty five minutes in and
Speaker 3: his assistant walks up and says, here, play this, and
Speaker 3: she gives me a DVD and it's Finding Nemo.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, the movie, not the soundtrack,
Speaker 1: the actual movie.
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, what do I don't there's
Speaker 3: not a DVD player here.
Speaker 1: She's oh.
Speaker 3: She comes back, gives me a portable DVD player. I
Speaker 3: was like, well, I say, it's a nightclub, they don't
Speaker 3: have it. His engineer gives me, like the chords. I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: but there's no projection. There's a projection screen.
Speaker 1: So suddenly.
Speaker 3: I put this thing on, but I'm still DJing, so
Speaker 3: I figured like he just wants the visual of like
Speaker 3: the just.
Speaker 1: Playing in the background.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then they come over and they're like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: can you turn the volume up.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, we're in a nightclub in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: He wants to watch Finding Nemo.
Speaker 3: And he said yeah, just you know, just kill the
Speaker 3: music and put the thing up. And I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: you ain't set me up. So I got the opening
Speaker 3: DJ guy I said, look, in about five seconds, do
Speaker 3: the transfer and put up the So suddenly we go
Speaker 3: from like this this funk music talking about protesting the
Speaker 3: government in Nigeria to suddenly, like Ellen Degenero's voice.
Speaker 1: He just wants to watch Finding Nemo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was like it didn't affect nobody and
Speaker 3: his crew like this happens all the time every day,
Speaker 3: and I'm just sitting there dejected, like.
Speaker 1: No one has this story. No one has this story.
Speaker 1: That is the greatest.
Speaker 3: I just sat there like, yo, dude, like you're playing
Speaker 3: Finding Nemo in the club like popping bottles in a
Speaker 3: and you remember the club back in like in two
Speaker 3: thousand and four, like it was sex back then. Nah,
Speaker 3: he wanted. We were watching Pixar in the Duck Club?
Speaker 1: Are you Duck Club? Are you? Did you read The
Speaker 1: Beautiful Ones yet? Yes?
Speaker 3: I read it and it's ah, man, it makes me
Speaker 3: so sad, like he he wrote that. Normally, when people
Speaker 3: write books, you do it with a collaborator. Like with me,
Speaker 3: it was like going back to school, like chapter for chapter.
Speaker 3: Like my guy was say like, okay, write about the
Speaker 3: first time he brought a record, and then I write
Speaker 3: something and he goes and okay, it's run on sentence
Speaker 3: whatever or traditionally you just do a twenty hour interview
Speaker 3: with someone and then they write.
Speaker 1: The words in your voice.
Speaker 3: But he wrote that book and he only wrote thirty pages,
Speaker 3: but it revealed so much about at least up until
Speaker 3: the age of four, which you know could have been
Speaker 3: but he took a lot of photos, like so there's
Speaker 3: a lot of unanswered questions about his childhood. Maya Rudolph
Speaker 3: is really going to love this book because there's I
Speaker 3: guess if Instagram were out back then Prince would have
Speaker 3: been on Instagram instead. Like he just kept photo books
Speaker 3: of all the albums he made, like the process of
Speaker 3: making it, like My Breakfast, My Engineer, Sleep on the
Speaker 3: couch again. So there's a there's a picture where he
Speaker 3: Prince is driving down Sunset and there's a big giant
Speaker 3: ad of Minnie Riperton's new album Stay in Love, like
Speaker 3: on Sunset Boulevard and Prince is waiting at a red
Speaker 3: light and Flash takes the photo. It's a perfect shot,
Speaker 3: like this would have been his iPhone back in nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy seven.
Speaker 1: And the caption was like this woman.
Speaker 3: Could cause a car crash, and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 3: my Rudolph is really really going to love that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Does he ever know that she loves him that much? Oh? Definitely?
Speaker 3: I think yeah, yeah, Because he he talks about uh
Speaker 3: even though he only covers the first four year of
Speaker 3: his life, he often jumps to modern references, So there's
Speaker 3: a there is a mention of him watching uh the
Speaker 3: Darling Nikki performance. Really that is also in my top
Speaker 3: that and Stevie Wonder. I'm trying to figure out what else,
Speaker 3: Jorn Darling.
Speaker 4: You remember that my Stevie Wonder story with you guys?
Speaker 4: Remember I opened for you guys in Atlantic City.
Speaker 1: I hate you for this, man, I open for the.
Speaker 4: Roots in Atlantic City. And we get there and someone
Speaker 4: forgot James's keyboard.
Speaker 1: James, Yes, we forgot James Boyce's keyboard, So how do
Speaker 1: you forget an instrument too? We were new.
Speaker 4: He forgot his kid. So we get there and James like,
Speaker 4: I do my set. I came back and I go, James,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? He's like, they forgot my keyboard.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna watch.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 4: Oh, He's like, you want to get a tequila? I
Speaker 4: go sure, So we get a drink and then somebody
Speaker 4: comes back and go, hey, do.
Speaker 1: You guys want to meet Stevie Wonder. I go, he's here.
Speaker 4: He's also playing a different room venue. I go, oh,
Speaker 4: let's go. So we run over to see Stevie. You
Speaker 4: leave the Roots and then run see Sevie. Go and
Speaker 4: see Stevie Wonder and I go, uh, what do you uh?
Speaker 4: It was only like maybe it was a meet and
Speaker 4: greet with like ten people. He does this every time,
Speaker 4: and it's ten people, and I go.
Speaker 3: Uh, he's Stevie's Jimmy Fallon and James like, I'm from
Speaker 3: the Roots, blah blah blah and I'm the biggest, biggest fan.
Speaker 1: I start going through all his bits and I start going.
Speaker 4: Like ebony and hie, and.
Speaker 1: Then he starts harmonizing with me. Yeah and you dude.
Speaker 4: So then James starts going playing the song on on
Speaker 4: Stevie's other piano. Right, So then Stevie James playing piano
Speaker 4: and I'm harmonizing with Stevie Wonder. We sing perfect harmony.
Speaker 4: Ebany and Ivory did jumping up and down like what
Speaker 4: is just happening?
Speaker 1: Like all right, love you buddy, I tact you. Later
Speaker 1: we split, we were backstage.
Speaker 4: We throw down a couple more drinks we watch you
Speaker 4: guys your last you finished the set, You're like, uh,
Speaker 4: it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: What'd you guys do? Stee, I can't wait to tell
Speaker 1: you what we did. Man, you bastards. Dude.
Speaker 3: We can go on forever with these stories, but both
Speaker 3: of us have day jobs. We got to report to WET.
Speaker 3: I know we're just going to finish this conversation on
Speaker 3: way backward. I really want to thank you for helping us,
Speaker 3: and well, first of all, for everything you've done for
Speaker 3: me personally. No, seriously, dog like that was I always
Speaker 3: joke that, not even joke because everyone asked like, well,
Speaker 3: how did you guys manage to do the show? And
Speaker 3: I always tell them that we were prepared in the
Speaker 3: nicest way possible to say no, because we didn't want
Speaker 3: to burn a bridge and be like, Okay, when we
Speaker 3: have a new album ount we can come on said show,
Speaker 3: I said, But then you disarmed us in literally ten minutes,
Speaker 3: which no human being has ever done. I mean, we've
Speaker 3: had the finest of women, the finest of models, the
Speaker 3: biggest of act I think there was a point where
Speaker 3: we were supposed to go fishing with George Clooney at
Speaker 3: one point, like that's a typical backstage thing, like George
Speaker 3: Cluon's like, all right, we're going fishing tomorrow whatever, and
Speaker 3: like we're so standd off ash as a group. And
Speaker 3: literally in ten minutes you had us doing a human
Speaker 3: pyramid that it is enough human pyramid at UCLA, and
Speaker 3: only because Tarik was on the bottom row. Who you know,
Speaker 3: his clothes are so expensive. It's like Treek is actually
Speaker 3: getting his Japanese denim dirty. And I looked at Rich like,
Speaker 3: we're not getting rid of this guy anytime soon. Al
Speaker 3: He's like, nope, you do it right there. I couldn't
Speaker 3: figure out what you did to disarm the roots in
Speaker 3: ten minutes flat. And I was like, oh, this this
Speaker 3: is the next stage of my life right here, I'm
Speaker 3: watching it. But yes, I want to thank you for that,
Speaker 3: and also thank you we're helping us with our new
Speaker 3: uh are about to say jump off like it's it's
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight our new jump off on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you by the way for changing the whole game.
Speaker 4: And honestly, it wasn't for you, we wouldn't be that
Speaker 4: wouldn't be where I am.
Speaker 3: So here's do another twenty five years of magic. Let's
Speaker 3: do it, Yes, yo On behalf of the Team Supreme.
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