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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of the Two

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Speaker 1: Minute Drill podcast, presented by Nerd Wallet, Play Smart Finance Harder.

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Stankowitz and I'm joined once again by Colts

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Speaker 1: dot Com writer Amanda Foster, and we're giving you all

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Speaker 1: of the last minute news and injury updates before the

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Speaker 1: Colts kickoff against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday at Nissan Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started, all right, Amanda, The big

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Speaker 1: news on Friday, amazingly was not that Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: questionable to play. Right, we are going to start with

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior, who, to recap the week, misses practice

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday with a back injury. It's then reported later

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Speaker 1: Wednesday by ESPN's Adam Schefter that Pittman could miss multiple

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Speaker 1: games and could even be placed on injured reserve. Then

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Speaker 1: he doesn't practice again Thursday, and then Friday, there's number

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Speaker 1: eleven out there during practice yep. And he spoke with

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Speaker 1: the media after practice. Amanda, you were in that scrum,

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Speaker 1: you wrote an article on it. Where do we stand

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Speaker 1: with Michael Pittman Junior right now? After a wild week

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Speaker 1: of I'm sure mood swings for our listeners recording the

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Speaker 1: Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I think I can speak for everybody.

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Speaker 3: First of all, out at practice when you look out

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Speaker 3: there and seeing who's out and who's not, and you

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Speaker 3: see number eleven and I was like, did I read

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Speaker 3: that right?

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Speaker 2: Like was that like? Is that the right number that

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? And then it was obviously Michael Pittman Jr.

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Speaker 3: So the biggest thing that he emphasized, he said this

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Speaker 3: multiple times to the media, is that everything is still

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Speaker 3: on the table. What that means, It's still up in

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Speaker 3: the air because obviously you're not gonna expand if you're

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Speaker 3: him or the Colts pr or Shane Steike, and you're

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Speaker 3: not going to really expand on what that means because

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Speaker 3: you don't, you don't need to, you don't want to.

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Speaker 3: But he said he was feeling good. Shane said that

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Speaker 3: Pittman was feeling good to practice as well. Sekan also

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Speaker 3: said that he was one of the toughest guys that

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Speaker 3: he's ever been around, which is not surprising. We know that,

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Speaker 3: we know how tough of a person Pittman is just

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Speaker 3: kind of personality wise and physicality wise, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday is kind of the best that we got.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that we can say that we're going

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Speaker 3: to see on Sunday is so much better than coming

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Speaker 3: out of this and us coming in here and talking

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Speaker 3: about how he is not going to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the assumption coming into today

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Speaker 1: by you know, i'm sure fans and was he's not

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Speaker 3: Right, you see anything of a might be going on

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Speaker 3: injured reserve, right, and you don't expect to then two

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Speaker 3: days later see them out of practice.

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Speaker 1: Correct. But I mean to back up what Shane Styke

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Speaker 1: and said, Michael Pittman Junior, over his five seasons here

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Speaker 1: in India has absolutely proven himself to be one of

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Speaker 1: the toughest freaking dudes on this team. He's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys where like guys say this sometimes they said

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Speaker 1: this about DeForest Buckner too, and I think it applies

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Speaker 1: to Pittman that if he's going to miss a game,

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Speaker 1: he must be really, really hurt. And Michael Pittman Junior,

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot for that dude to not be

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Speaker 1: able to go out there and play. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for him to be able to take part in practice

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Speaker 1: on Friday, even if he doesn't play Sunday. That in

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Speaker 1: and of itself is encouraging because it doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: guess by him practicing. So even if he doesn't play Sunday,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't think it would be an extended absence. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about four games you're missing. The Texans put Nico

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Speaker 1: And I thought about that a lot when the Pittman

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Speaker 1: injury news hit. That turned out to maybe not be accurate.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was accurate in the moment, but turns out

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, man, like, the Texans are down their

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Speaker 1: this doesn't have anything to do with this Sunday. It's

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Speaker 1: more kind of projecting out. But the fact that everything's

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Speaker 3: Think it's worth noting too. We talked to him in

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's worth noting. It is also worth

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Speaker 1: noting too, like he's not getting hit right in his

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs threw a sock at him.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that was what that was. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Josh Downs also feeling better. Yes, Uh, that we'll

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Speaker 1: get We'll get to him here, but I mean just

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Speaker 1: generally like good vibes about Michael Pittman Junior. After the

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Speaker 2: Duman where all of the questions are what are you

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And now it's like what can I do with him

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Speaker 3: Because even if he's unlimited, we don't we don't know

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Speaker 3: if he was limited or.

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Speaker 2: Full in practice.

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Speaker 3: And if even if he's unlimited participant in the game

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, that still opens up what the Colts offense

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing with DeForest Buckner again, where buck

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Speaker 1: was able to play against Green Bay with the back injury,

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Speaker 1: and he was limited when he played, he was only

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Speaker 1: absolutely that. You know, we'll see how it all plays out.

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Speaker 1: There's still a lot of time between now and kickoff.

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Speaker 1: But again, good good vibes. With Michael Pittman Junior coming

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Speaker 1: what that sounds like to me is he had a

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Speaker 1: he probably had a good week of practice, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want to commit to it until you are sure

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Speaker 1: his body responds to it come Sunday morning. So that's

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Speaker 1: I think where the Colts are at with Richard's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And to me, that makes perfect sense because it's

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Speaker 3: similar to what happened last week in Jacksonville where he

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Speaker 2: Right, and in the grand scheme of things that.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this before, with how other teams prepare

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, even if it's just a small seat

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Speaker 1: of doubt with the Titans exactly. But you know that Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: if I had guess, Tennessee probably prepared that Richardson's going

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Speaker 3: One of the one of the few positives maybe of

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Speaker 3: some doubt for the other team. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, it looks on.

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Speaker 2: The right side, right, very very very small, right.

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Speaker 1: Because otherwise you'd love to have all these guys totally healthy.

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Speaker 1: But that's also just not the reality of an NFL season.

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Speaker 1: I thought when we saw Richardson during you know, warm

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, just something else to watch for the for

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Speaker 1: The good news for the Colts is if Pittman or

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Speaker 1: Downs can't play, their wide receiver depth right now is

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and also the Colts started the season without Josh Downs, correct,

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Speaker 3: So it's not You're not gonna be ripping your hair

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Speaker 3: Downs and not Downs, whoever it is, they they know,

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Speaker 3: like you said, what the depth is capable of, and

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Speaker 3: so it's just more of it. Okay, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: So all right, So we've made it all the way

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Speaker 1: the second consecutive game with an ankle injury, the one

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Speaker 1: he sustained in Week four against the Steelers. JT didn't

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Speaker 1: presented by nerd Wallet, plays smart finance harder. Amanda I

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Speaker 1: will be back next Friday with hopefully a shorter injury report,

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Speaker 1: before the Colts play the Miami Dolphins at Luke Soil Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you then, So long,