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Speaker 3: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: It's a moving on.
Speaker 5: Tuesday here inside the SWBC podcast studio, as it's a
Speaker 5: beautiful day here at the Star in Frisco, in a
Speaker 5: beautiful day to look ahead to the Los Angeles Chargers
Speaker 5: next Monday night. Bill Jones, you got all the names
Speaker 5: right off the top there.
Speaker 6: Everson.
Speaker 5: I heard you talked about on serious NFL Radio on
Speaker 5: the drive end, Charle Charlie Weiss, what you talking about?
Speaker 6: What does that do wrong? Bring up Dwight clock again
Speaker 6: is the one who know.
Speaker 5: Charlie Wise was talking about Everson Walls. He was talking
Speaker 5: about teams picking up veteran defensive backs when guys go
Speaker 5: down with injured.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 5: He was talking to Bob Poppa's co host Wow, and
Speaker 5: he said, and I think that the Bills signed Josh Norman.
Speaker 6: And veteran cornerback and.
Speaker 5: So love that move because he said, you can't have
Speaker 5: enough veteran cornerbacks on your team. And then he said,
Speaker 5: I'll give you Everson Walls. Remember Everson Walls. That was
Speaker 5: the prototype veteran corner joining a championship level team, and
Speaker 5: how that story turned out.
Speaker 7: I was nine years in the league at the time. Well,
Speaker 7: Josh Norman, what is he right now?
Speaker 6: He's around that, around that probably he's port thirty. He's
Speaker 6: just blowing me off now.
Speaker 4: I can look it up. You keep talking.
Speaker 7: I don't think, don't I don't think. I think he's
Speaker 7: little older than I was when I went to the Giants.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that was one of those things. But I
Speaker 7: still had something left. You know, that's the main town.
Speaker 7: You don't want to just pick up any player.
Speaker 5: Oh, Josh Jordan is older, see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Oh years old?
Speaker 6: Yes, I thought I was.
Speaker 7: I think I wasn't even thirty yet when I had
Speaker 7: gone to the Giants. So yeah, it still had a
Speaker 7: little something left. It wasn't that well when I went there.
Speaker 7: I guess they were just looking for a guy to
Speaker 7: back up. I don't think they realized how good I
Speaker 7: was going to be.
Speaker 5: You know, so much funny about it was you're looking
Speaker 5: for a veteran guy, a guy and making the way
Speaker 5: he described it, he said, he got a veteran guy.
Speaker 6: He might be slow, but that's the story of my career.
Speaker 6: But you know, just so, I mean, I wasn't just there.
Speaker 7: I ended up breaking into the starting lineup, so I
Speaker 7: wasn't just there, and I knew that what I was
Speaker 7: there for. And I told Psels you let me start,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna help you win the Super Bowl. I swear
Speaker 7: to god, I told him those words because he was
Speaker 7: just blowing me off like something Jersey guy, a whatever kid.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, whatever. He didn't believe a word I said.
Speaker 7: I promised him I would help him win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: The only person that really believed in me was Belichick,
Speaker 7: and he came in smiling. I hadn't seen him smile
Speaker 7: since that's the first time I saw him smiling. The
Speaker 7: last time I saw him smile, I had to work no,
Speaker 7: you know, he smiled later on that year, though.
Speaker 6: So we had we we knew what we had.
Speaker 7: We had a team that ran his own zone defense,
Speaker 7: which helped a lot in regards to myself and the
Speaker 7: man to man that we had to play, but also
Speaker 7: having Launch Taylor on the team. Just got to tell you,
Speaker 7: not just him, but Pepper and that whole defense. We
Speaker 7: won the way you were supposed to win, and that's
Speaker 7: what defense. So I was happy to leave that.
Speaker 5: Team in interceptions, Mackey, on these days, thirty years from now,
Speaker 5: we're gonna be talking about a veteran linebacker that the
Speaker 5: Cowboys brought him in five or six games into the
Speaker 5: season when their middle linebacker goes down with an injury,
Speaker 5: and now he led them to the promised Land.
Speaker 6: Right, who are we talking about?
Speaker 5: Well, you do tell Mickey, right, Oh yeah, there's Mickey
Speaker 5: is scouring.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, rosters for you guys talking to me. Yes,
Speaker 6: we're talking.
Speaker 5: That was the bad news of yesterday as Leighton vander
Speaker 5: esh reportedly four to six weeks.
Speaker 4: So here's the deal on him. I can't help you there.
Speaker 4: Uh he suffered you know, they called it a neck injury. Right,
Speaker 4: he suffered a severe stinger. But when he goes down,
Speaker 4: knowing that a couple of years ago he had to
Speaker 4: have uh, disc surgery for his neck and fuse two
Speaker 4: of the vertebrates together. When they take the dis you know,
Speaker 4: everybody calls it spinal surgery. You don't surgically repair your spine,
Speaker 4: you repair your vertebrate.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why you saw all the concern
Speaker 4: while he was laying there though he had he had movement.
Speaker 4: He's you can see his feet were moving, his hands
Speaker 4: were moving.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: So it's a it's it's a stinger. And you tell
Speaker 4: me if you had, you know, a case of a
Speaker 4: kind of a case of spinal stenosis and you've already
Speaker 4: had dysurgery, and you go down and you feel some tingling,
Speaker 4: what's going through your mind?
Speaker 9: It's taking you right back there.
Speaker 10: You're like, that's it.
Speaker 6: Took me, even as a fan, as a fan, that's
Speaker 6: where it took me. I was like, and think.
Speaker 5: Especially his posture as is the crown of his helmet
Speaker 5: hits aside of Micah, and it's those are what causes
Speaker 5: the neck, the severe neck injuries. When you got your
Speaker 5: head all the way down and.
Speaker 4: Think about it, if it went through your mind and
Speaker 4: your mind, what was going going through his No doubt, right,
Speaker 4: So they're going to put him on injured reserve, and
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, it's four weeks, so I'm going, oh,
Speaker 4: that's good because there's a bye weekend there, so it's
Speaker 4: really three now, the bye week doesn't count four games,
Speaker 4: not four.
Speaker 10: Games for four games.
Speaker 4: So and then I'm thinking, okay, you're it's good that
Speaker 4: he'll have five weeks, right, but he can't practice, so
Speaker 4: to me, you don't just come off the IR up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it's probably.
Speaker 6: Five I've heard that many times.
Speaker 4: It's probably five five games.
Speaker 5: So four games takes you through the Giants game on
Speaker 5: November twelfth.
Speaker 4: So you missed him first Philadelphia game.
Speaker 5: Put him on IR this week. It's four games, five weeks,
Speaker 5: So November nineteenth at Carolina would be his first game eligible.
Speaker 5: And then that's the Sunday before Thanksgiving, and so you
Speaker 5: got Washington on Thanksgiving Day on the twenty third.
Speaker 4: So when's the Philadelphia game? The first one?
Speaker 5: The first Philadelphia game is November fifth, so.
Speaker 4: He would miss he would miss that.
Speaker 6: That's that's just.
Speaker 5: We got Chargers by week who stole the Rams of
Speaker 5: November twenty ninth, and Philadelphia on.
Speaker 4: November fifth, somebody stole the media.
Speaker 5: So you're looking at basically Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a short week.
Speaker 5: So and you got a Thursday game the week after
Speaker 5: that too, against Seattle right on November thirtieth.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you asked, what are they going to do
Speaker 4: at linebacker? Well, obviously, Damone Clark now is going to
Speaker 4: play more snaps, so he'll be the main guy.
Speaker 5: And that wasn't as big a concern. I mean, Damone
Speaker 5: Clark can do the Leyton vander esh It's it's what
Speaker 5: it's the trickle down.
Speaker 4: From trickle down. That's where I was going to go
Speaker 4: because Clark ended up playing sixty five percent of the snaps.
Speaker 4: But when we were talking with John Fossil, it becomes
Speaker 4: a special teams problem because I didn't realize that Clark
Speaker 4: was playing that many special team snaps. So in the
Speaker 4: game he played nineteen special team snaps. I think there
Speaker 4: were twenty five in the game, so he plays seventy percent. Well,
Speaker 4: if he's got to take up the slack, he's not
Speaker 4: going to be on special teams. Now, you've got to
Speaker 4: have somebody step up on special teams.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: And they also he's pretty young guy, isn't Yeah, Oh no,
Speaker 4: and he's willing, yeah, Fossil was that was one of
Speaker 4: the things impressed him about Clark that he he wanted
Speaker 4: to go out there and help.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we already, I mean, is this a change because
Speaker 7: you know, that's what veterans do.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what second year got.
Speaker 7: Well still you know, yeah, a young kid is yeah,
Speaker 7: uh well, now he's a veteran. He has to play, right,
Speaker 7: he has no choice. Yeah, I mean playing special teams
Speaker 7: depending on how where they put it.
Speaker 4: And that and that's the thing.
Speaker 5: He he's not playing every snap on on defense like
Speaker 5: Layton was. Yeah, Layton late he was a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Layton's eight three down linebacker. And so his special teams.
Speaker 5: He had six special team snaps in the last game
Speaker 5: in New England Game two, so many Clark is going now.
Speaker 5: Clark against San Francisco wound up playing forty six snaps.
Speaker 5: Part of that was lateon went out late, but also
Speaker 5: the way San Francisco used a full But he's gonna
Speaker 5: be on the field more against San Francisco than what
Speaker 5: he was against New England when he was on the
Speaker 5: field for twenty five snaps.
Speaker 6: Against New England.
Speaker 7: To me, I don't know, it's just to me, special
Speaker 7: teams shouldn't tax you that much.
Speaker 10: You know, really these days you're.
Speaker 6: Not thank you, thank you, You're not the gunner right
Speaker 6: right now? That's serious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But now, I especially a young man like that.
Speaker 7: I don't see that being a.
Speaker 4: You could put him out there on kickoff coverage because
Speaker 4: you never have a kickoff to cover.
Speaker 7: And you know you don't have so many guys making
Speaker 7: plays on special teams anyway.
Speaker 4: So here here's the downside. In that game, he led
Speaker 4: the team with ten tackles, so i'm assuming leading Layton did.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming he's the team leader in tackles. Now, you've
Speaker 4: got to be able to replace that had eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Right, So.
Speaker 4: Again, now in some of the change up things, if
Speaker 4: it's Clark, you can use Marquise Bell to me. And
Speaker 4: I think I said it yesterday. Parsons is a linebacker,
Speaker 4: and Parsons and Clark are my starting linebackers. I don't
Speaker 4: think there's any other way around it. I think that's
Speaker 4: what it's got to be. And I think he'll be
Speaker 4: even more effective at linebacker because they can't double team
Speaker 4: a linebacker as easily as a defense.
Speaker 6: You'll still probably put him on the line on third down.
Speaker 4: And that's fine, Yes, that's fine. That so he still
Speaker 4: has against two tight ends or a tight end and
Speaker 4: a full back, he's got to be my linebacker.
Speaker 5: So it's basically in situations where previously you had Leyton
Speaker 5: and Damon Clark on the field at the same time
Speaker 5: you've got Parsons in de Mont Clark. It's when Damon
Speaker 5: would have come off the field in a nickel situation.
Speaker 5: That's when Damone is in Layton spot and Micah is
Speaker 5: back doing what he was doing.
Speaker 4: Right, exactly what and Marquise Bells Bells helps out and
Speaker 4: those nickel situations.
Speaker 5: Marquise Bell is a safety who converted the linebacker five
Speaker 5: weeks ago, and you need another so you additional linebacker,
Speaker 5: and you need a couple actually, and.
Speaker 6: You need you need someone with some experience.
Speaker 7: I talked about this yesterday and you were you were
Speaker 7: right in saying that, well, these guys are veterans. They
Speaker 7: I don't think they are veterans in this defense, right,
Speaker 7: They're not veterans in this defense. So when I talked
Speaker 7: about the inexperience yesterday, I meant they don't know how
Speaker 7: in this defense to attack three tight end offense, well,
Speaker 7: two tight ends with the with the big, big fullback.
Speaker 7: They don't know what that's all about. They don't know
Speaker 7: where to feel they create the the mismatches, especially as
Speaker 7: far as numbers are concerned, by going back weak side
Speaker 7: every time, and yaw, you're stuck with either Bland or
Speaker 7: Marquise Bell trying to fill that hole and turn it inside.
Speaker 6: That's where they're not catching the experience. Then they go play.
Speaker 7: Action on that and now they're totally lost because it's
Speaker 7: not a run, it's a past. They have no idea
Speaker 7: what the matchup is. That's how we end up getting burned.
Speaker 7: They knew that the linebacker would not or the safety
Speaker 7: I can't remember, would not be able to catch that
Speaker 7: tight slot man coming all the way across, or Kittle,
Speaker 7: Kittle where tight slot.
Speaker 4: Bell watched him go right.
Speaker 7: Well, that's because he's thinking. First of all, he's thinking right.
Speaker 7: Second of all, based on that play action and the formation.
Speaker 6: He had no idea. He went out the couple that time.
Speaker 4: And then nobody, nobody re routed Kittle when he came
Speaker 4: off the line he ran.
Speaker 6: No one reroutes anymore. They don't rerout anymore.
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I hate it when you're in the slot. That's what
Speaker 7: we did in New York. You're gonna re route that man.
Speaker 7: Belichick's whole thing was you better put a shoulder, a
Speaker 7: hip or something on that slot man to divert him
Speaker 7: to the safety.
Speaker 6: No one does that anymore Spas.
Speaker 7: They really don't unless they're playing man to man period.
Speaker 7: They always let the slot man go. That's why you
Speaker 7: got so much pressure on your safety is in.
Speaker 4: The back because the one route that Kittle came across
Speaker 4: and Bell didn't pick him up. Vander ash just took
Speaker 4: a step over there at Kittle, but he never touched him,
Speaker 4: and I don't know what his responsibility was, but I
Speaker 4: was thinking, well, if you reroute him there, you know,
Speaker 4: get in there.
Speaker 7: That's why the Giants d fence was so good. With Belichick,
Speaker 7: we always re route. No one has a free release
Speaker 7: in the slot position. Maybe on the outside, yes, but
Speaker 7: the slot position you can't have it.
Speaker 6: That's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 7: Now in the NFL, I don't hardly see anyone in
Speaker 7: zone position in zone defense re routing slotman.
Speaker 4: Including the forty nine ers on turping. He ran right
Speaker 4: by the guy. By the way I'm understanding, he's probably
Speaker 4: more day to day than any with that ankle injury
Speaker 4: he suffered. With that BS tackle on the sideline that
Speaker 4: the guy should have been called for a horse collar
Speaker 4: or the tackle where you pull from behind and land
Speaker 4: on the back of his legs and he was out
Speaker 4: of bounds. But no flag. But boy, they sure got
Speaker 4: Donovan Wilson. I can continue. There was a lot I
Speaker 4: think they saw from what I'm told on tape of
Speaker 4: punches being throwed that were just ignored.
Speaker 6: There was a lot of stuff. We could see it
Speaker 6: in the game.
Speaker 4: Somebody said, like, you know what, if we have to
Speaker 4: play them again, it's gonna be a it's a it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a fight. Yeah, yeah, ain't gonna put up.
Speaker 4: They all ain't got called for one punch.
Speaker 6: And we saw several things.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, this is what and I
Speaker 7: hate I hate talking about that because we put ourselves
Speaker 7: in a position to where, well, would that make a difference, right,
Speaker 7: And in some ways it would have if it changed
Speaker 7: based on that time, that particular time and moment, as
Speaker 7: you always do a bill, Well, if this would have happen,
Speaker 7: then blah blah blah blah, that's very true. But forty
Speaker 7: two points of forty plus points, it's hard to explain
Speaker 7: that other way.
Speaker 5: The grapes are sours, all right, we're just getting started.
Speaker 4: Wait, that's gonna be the header for this.
Speaker 5: You could work it into the last week.
Speaker 4: What was last week's hearken hearking? I used to it too,
Speaker 4: Are you hearkening back marketing back? No, I think you
Speaker 4: said it earlier than what I'm going to use. Oh
Speaker 4: I forgot I should have wrote it down. Hey, just
Speaker 4: be sure you said it something Tuesday. Moving on, Moving on, Well,
Speaker 4: before we.
Speaker 7: Move on, I'm surprised Bill that brought it up. As
Speaker 7: far as blowouts were concerned during the year and how
Speaker 7: teams ended up. Nineteen eighty five, we got blown out
Speaker 7: Bears forty four nothing one week, Cincinnati Cincinnati fifty two plus.
Speaker 7: I don't remember what that school was, and then we
Speaker 7: ended up coming out.
Speaker 4: We had our mania. God, we could have looked it up.
Speaker 6: No, well, I can say this much.
Speaker 7: We went on the next week, uh to Well, the
Speaker 7: Giants came in town.
Speaker 6: The next week we won the NFC East. So we've
Speaker 6: come back.
Speaker 7: That was two consecutive blowouts we came back from to
Speaker 7: come back and win the NFC East against a really
Speaker 7: good Giants.
Speaker 4: Team that year, Cincinnati kinnabrew ran all.
Speaker 5: Over Larry kinnabrew Is. Fifty to twenty four was the
Speaker 5: final score. December eighth nineteen.
Speaker 7: We got twenty four because I blocked upot.
Speaker 6: My only blocked my entire career.
Speaker 5: Okay, just to review, since you brought it up. The
Speaker 5: Chicago game was November seventeenth, forty four to nothing, came back,
Speaker 5: rebounded from that, beat Philadelphia thirty four to seventeen, beat
Speaker 5: the then Saint Louis Cardinals thirty five seventeen, then went
Speaker 5: to Cincinnati, laid that egg, and came back and beat
Speaker 5: the Giants twenty eighth twenty one to get to ten
Speaker 5: and five on the season.
Speaker 4: What was the first Cardinals score?
Speaker 5: First Cardinals score was twenty one to ten loss at
Speaker 5: Saint Louis November fourth.
Speaker 7: Now, just actually begin, I mean we pulled it together
Speaker 7: for that Giants game.
Speaker 5: But the next week then the off last game of
Speaker 5: the regular season was at San Francisco thirty one sixteen loss,
Speaker 5: and then it was the game at the Ram.
Speaker 6: Dickson of course went off on this. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: think we scored that game almost.
Speaker 4: I almost got run over in that San Francisco.
Speaker 6: I did get run over the game.
Speaker 4: Because you had to where the press box was, to
Speaker 4: where the locker room was. You had to there. You
Speaker 4: had to cross the field and they let people on
Speaker 4: the field after and these people were running like a
Speaker 4: bench of a bunch of Maybe.
Speaker 6: What happened to you?
Speaker 4: I almost got run over by a fans Did you?
Speaker 6: Did you know? I?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, you were know you I did? I had to
Speaker 4: fake them bags.
Speaker 5: That Gaglestick Park.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, right where I've ruined many of shoes
Speaker 4: there in that goofy field.
Speaker 5: All right, we will continue going down memory lane with
Speaker 5: Everson and Mickey continues. At a moment, we'll harken back.
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Speaker 9: It is working today. Steve and New York would like
Speaker 9: to know after five games, what concerns us more the
Speaker 9: QB or offensive scheme under Schottenheimer.
Speaker 4: Well, interesting, Shottenheimer, I need to run over there, and
Speaker 4: it's your offense. Shape up, buddy.
Speaker 5: Head coach likes that. It's this week is Shottenneimer's.
Speaker 4: We'll take that. Mike McCarthy's off the hook.
Speaker 5: Uh huh, that's right, all right.
Speaker 4: What was his name, Steve, Steven New York. So Steve,
Speaker 4: it's Mike McCarthy's offense. Correct. Just because Brian Schottenheimer has
Speaker 4: the title of offensive coordinator, he's the offensive coordinating helper.
Speaker 4: They're running Mike McCarthy's offense, and I'm not worried about Dak.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things to fix Dak is
Speaker 4: to just get him to slow down, settle down, quit
Speaker 4: thinking I got to get the ball out of my hands.
Speaker 4: I got to get the ball out of my hands.
Speaker 4: And by doing that, I think he hasn't gone through
Speaker 4: his progression of reeds the way he needs to now.
Speaker 4: He got speeded up in that game because the protection
Speaker 4: basically sucked. I mean he got hit nine times and
Speaker 4: sacked three times. I think that should tell you something.
Speaker 6: And let's just be real.
Speaker 7: They weren't exactly wide opened down the field, right. You
Speaker 7: had some very tight coverage from the jam position, press
Speaker 7: position at the line of scrimmage from the cornerbacks. So
Speaker 7: they're making it hard for the timing to be there
Speaker 7: between the quarterback in a wide.
Speaker 4: Receiver, especially if you're in a hurry to get the
Speaker 4: ball out.
Speaker 7: Of you hate hurry to get it out and they're
Speaker 7: man to man and so you can't be predictable with
Speaker 7: your routes. There has to be some type of adjustment made.
Speaker 7: He has to be able to make an audible on
Speaker 7: certain defenses because you can't run that short, quick slant
Speaker 7: and intermediate routes against a man to man.
Speaker 6: When they're pressing.
Speaker 7: So hard on our wide receivers, they have to work
Speaker 7: harder on getting open, or.
Speaker 6: He has to make sure he has some different.
Speaker 4: Checkdowns and the other thing. And I don't know why
Speaker 4: cowboy quarterbacks have problems with this, but it kind of
Speaker 4: reminded me of that Buffalo game when Tony Romo threw
Speaker 4: four interceptions in the first half. Warner, their middle linebacker
Speaker 4: is running down the field in the middle, and you now,
Speaker 4: if you're going to hit that guy in a crossing route,
Speaker 4: you got to throw over the linebacker, but before the
Speaker 4: safety gets there, and that's how he broke up. I
Speaker 4: believe that one pass and it's difficult, and that's what
Speaker 4: Romo was doing. I forgot the Buffalo linebacker that intercepted him,
Speaker 4: but he kept saying, Oh, I can do this, I
Speaker 4: can do this, and he couldn't right, and then the
Speaker 4: second half he adjusted.
Speaker 5: So why was San Francisco able to do that in
Speaker 5: this game but Dallas wasn't able to.
Speaker 4: Well, it had to be something on how they scheme
Speaker 4: the defense, or.
Speaker 5: It could be that the Cowboys with the concern of
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey in the backfield right, and the linebackers aren't
Speaker 5: dropping as much because they have to support the run,
Speaker 5: which they and San Francisco did a great job stopping
Speaker 5: the run early in the game, and so the linebackers
Speaker 5: could drop right.
Speaker 7: They didn't need the linebackers to stop the run. That's
Speaker 7: what we saw. Yeah, I saw defensive lineman, defensive ends
Speaker 7: blowing up everything when we tried to go why And
Speaker 7: that's part of this Texas Coast offense is We're going
Speaker 7: to attack the edges and we couldn't get outside. They
Speaker 7: supported those edges from the defensive end standpoint, so we
Speaker 7: couldn't run the ball at all.
Speaker 6: They didn't even need their linebackers.
Speaker 4: Nineteen carries for fifty seven yards.
Speaker 7: And it was the tackles for loss that were huge,
Speaker 7: and they killed some of our drives, especially the decision
Speaker 7: making process.
Speaker 6: That we had.
Speaker 7: We were trying to go for we had third down
Speaker 7: and we were going to go two down territory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, tackles for loss you think they had.
Speaker 6: I saw at least four.
Speaker 9: Nine ers.
Speaker 4: Tackles for the losses.
Speaker 6: Not including the sacks of course, right, yeah, nine ooh.
Speaker 4: Nine, No, that was quarterback hits six tackles for losses
Speaker 4: for sacks, so they weren't clearing the line of scrimmate.
Speaker 7: And this is what I there's certain things that we
Speaker 7: talked about making adjustments. You know, leave you said last week, Bill,
Speaker 7: if you make the adjustments at halftime, it's too late. Well,
Speaker 7: we never made the adjustment on stopping the run. First
Speaker 7: of all, that same running play that kept parcels from
Speaker 7: penetrating from the outside. But what you also had was
Speaker 7: they're running the same freaking zone routes. So I think
Speaker 7: we should have just played, which is tough when you
Speaker 7: can't stop the run. Play more man to man and
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, Purdy's a good quarterback, but you
Speaker 7: allow him to be a good quarterback if you cover
Speaker 7: those deep incuts with man to man position. To me,
Speaker 7: I don't like our technique of funneling the wide receivers
Speaker 7: inside because they don't just go to the safety. They
Speaker 7: go all the way across the field, so you're always
Speaker 7: in a trail position. So you have Gilmour, who's a
Speaker 7: they have good cornerback, but he's caught in a trail
Speaker 7: position at all times, and that's what they do. They
Speaker 7: like you said, bring the line up because McCaffrey's running
Speaker 7: the ball or whoever. The other running back that they
Speaker 7: had is web mation, so you're, of course they're going
Speaker 7: to go with deep in cuts behind where the linebacker
Speaker 7: is supposed to be. Van Derres still almost there, but
Speaker 7: almost didn't get it done when you got the defensive
Speaker 7: back trailing the wide receiver and they ran that route
Speaker 7: at least four or five times that game with success.
Speaker 4: It worked. Yeah, it works with success.
Speaker 9: It was repetitive and it worked.
Speaker 4: So if you had listened to Jerry today, okay, without
Speaker 4: saying it, he basically said he cleared the quarterback by
Speaker 4: the way, Steven New York, right, we can win with Dak.
Speaker 5: Preslet we want to exact quote, go ahead, Jerry and
Speaker 5: the fan this morning. I completely believe we have the
Speaker 5: quarterback that can take us where we want to go.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to
Speaker 5: the super Bowl, and that's the way that's going to be.
Speaker 4: But the majority of the questquestions to him had to
Speaker 4: do with scheme, and Jerry basically said, I'm not worried
Speaker 4: about the personnel if we have to play this game again,
Speaker 4: we can adjust our approach that we used. And he
Speaker 4: was talking offensively and defensively. Now, the words never came
Speaker 4: out of his mouth, but he basically said, we have
Speaker 4: the coaching staff and the personnel to make the adjustments.
Speaker 4: So basically what he was saying is he thought their
Speaker 4: approach both ways did not match what San Francisco was
Speaker 4: trying to do. Now, he didn't say, wow, we got
Speaker 4: out coached, but to.
Speaker 6: Me, he's just going to say that means we got
Speaker 6: out coach.
Speaker 4: But to me, that's what it meant, right, or that's
Speaker 4: what he was somewhat suggesting that we can make changes
Speaker 4: alterations into what we were doing.
Speaker 7: I mean, you could say you got our coach, but
Speaker 7: we always know the game is won in.
Speaker 4: The trenches, and well, maybe what you were asking guys
Speaker 4: to do didn't fit into what San Francisco was doing.
Speaker 7: I always go back to Tom Landry, going back to
Speaker 7: we used to go on thirty one safety zone. When
Speaker 7: they're running the ball and they're going to flow strong,
Speaker 7: we immediately go to inside coverage.
Speaker 6: Screw the out routes, screw the curl routes. We go
Speaker 6: to inside coverage. Because that's what.
Speaker 7: Can beat you, getting beat deep and getting beat deep inside.
Speaker 7: And that's what happened to us all game long. That's
Speaker 7: why we never really cared about an out route. An
Speaker 7: out route is not gonna make you lose a game.
Speaker 7: It's those deep in cuts that's the ones that get you.
Speaker 7: And of course the deep routes that's the ones that
Speaker 7: help you, that allow you to lose a game. Billy
Speaker 7: Waddie style against the Los Angeles Rams, I believe, nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: And if you think about it, and just off the
Speaker 4: top of my head, I don't remember for them catching
Speaker 4: a bunch of out routes.
Speaker 6: Everything I saw one.
Speaker 4: One because everything seemed to funnel up the mid, including
Speaker 4: the running place.
Speaker 6: Everything was inside.
Speaker 4: They rarely, they rarely attacked the edges. It was up
Speaker 4: the middle.
Speaker 7: Number fifteen, I forget his name, but he caught one. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he caught the one out over there. You know, he
Speaker 7: got twelve yards. And I tell when I do my
Speaker 7: little coaching, I tell them all the time, a ten
Speaker 7: yard well is not going to beat you. Yeah, what
Speaker 7: beat you was the twenty five yard or twenty yard
Speaker 7: incut and the deep pass. That's what beats you otherwise
Speaker 7: you can strap it up and play the next down.
Speaker 4: Jennings had one catch nineteen yards.
Speaker 6: So that was a nineteen yard comeback that he had.
Speaker 4: And if you think about the passes that I you caught,
Speaker 4: they were over the middle, as I remember, right, all
Speaker 4: of them. And then the next leading catch was four
Speaker 4: from ju Sick, Juic sick, I get it. No J
Speaker 4: in there the Jay.
Speaker 5: It's a use check like a Yo used check.
Speaker 4: I don't have an easy name to renounced, like Spagnola. Right, Kittles, well,
Speaker 4: he's a Harvard guy. Kittle has three catches the tight
Speaker 4: end right, Samuel three catches, McCaffrey two, and then yeah,
Speaker 4: it was everything kind of in the middle. Mason Bell
Speaker 4: had none. Mason had none, and then McLeod had one.
Speaker 4: So but they were completing the passes right.
Speaker 5: For touchdowns to Kittles three, he's only three catches.
Speaker 4: He had twenty six targets and he completed sixteen of them,
Speaker 4: sixteen for twenty six, only one hundred and sixty one yards.
Speaker 4: But they were damaging this one hundred and sixty one.
Speaker 6: Right, they've changed the field position.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, that wasn't him, Sorry, that was Books eighteen
Speaker 4: for twenty five. Sorry, I'm going to say that's two
Speaker 4: fifty three, and it was, and it was damaging, by
Speaker 4: the way, two fifty three. Could you live with two
Speaker 4: fifty three?
Speaker 5: I can't remember if I said this yesterday. I had
Speaker 5: it up. First down, Okay, first downs. The forty nine
Speaker 5: ers had two hundred and fifty three yards on thirty
Speaker 5: three first down plays, seven point seven yards of play.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys on first down had thirty nine yards on
Speaker 5: twenty first down plays one point nine yards established it.
Speaker 4: So they're getting in a lot of thirty shorts, right.
Speaker 5: Everyone talks about how well you do on third down. Well,
Speaker 5: in this particular game, how well you did on first down.
Speaker 7: Matt dominated that first great defense. First down is extremely.
Speaker 4: Importantession, and a lot they never got the third. They
Speaker 4: only had eleven third down plays out of sixty seven.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so a lot of it was they'd already scored,
Speaker 4: they already scored, or they had already picked up the
Speaker 4: first down because they had twenty five first downs.
Speaker 7: The one that really hurt the most, and it was
Speaker 7: just so glaring when we finally got a break. I
Speaker 7: think it was a personal file or something. And he
Speaker 7: still comes back and hits the same route over the
Speaker 7: middle again.
Speaker 4: Oh that was after my play. Yeah, yeah, my play.
Speaker 7: And it just you know that to me, just let
Speaker 7: it let me know we weren't calling the right plays
Speaker 7: because now you still have your cornerbacks sitting outside and
Speaker 7: I Yuka Whoever's still running that deep end cut for
Speaker 7: twenty twenty plus yards and they still got a first down.
Speaker 4: So here's what happened. After the penalty on Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 4: They get McCaffrey for minus two second and twelve short
Speaker 4: past the McCaffrey nineteen yards right, and then Mason up
Speaker 4: the middle eight yards. So now you're second and two right, Well, okay,
Speaker 4: what happens, Well, they get a four yard carry by
Speaker 4: Mason and then Purdy to Samuel nine yards and then
Speaker 4: the McCaffrey.
Speaker 7: I think we had them on a holding call to
Speaker 7: something before the play I'm talking about. It was a
Speaker 7: holding call after they had made a big play, brought
Speaker 7: them back, and then they came back and made another
Speaker 7: big play the same way.
Speaker 5: That's what dan quinn was talking about, Like on the McCaffrey. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it statistically it looks like you held him in check.
Speaker 5: Nineteen carries for fifty one yards. But for him down
Speaker 5: in distance is so important on as you're defending an
Speaker 5: offense because and for an offense to be able to
Speaker 5: either throw it or run it, and the defense doesn't
Speaker 5: know which way they're going to go, and that opens
Speaker 5: up passing lanes because you think they might run it.
Speaker 5: And it was so when McCaffrey turns a two yard
Speaker 5: gain into a four yard gain on first down through
Speaker 5: his ability yell, he only got four yards. Now you're
Speaker 5: second and six rather than second and eight. It makes
Speaker 5: a big difference, tell you.
Speaker 7: And he was able to somehow split There were times
Speaker 7: when he came up against more than one defender and
Speaker 7: still able to make one miss and make the most
Speaker 7: out of that that play instead of like getting a
Speaker 7: three year ad all of a sudden, he's gotten six yards.
Speaker 7: That's right, all right? We continue with more mix shots.
Speaker 6: More moving on, more moving on.
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Speaker 5: You know tomorrow I could be coming in here smelling
Speaker 5: a little bit like champagne.
Speaker 4: Hmmm, going are you tonight?
Speaker 9: Are you going on the game in different Rangers.
Speaker 5: If the Rangers beat the Orioles tonight, it'll be a
Speaker 5: clubhouse celebration, Champagne being sprayed all over the place, including
Speaker 5: on us reporters in the in the clubhouse.
Speaker 4: And so you're bringing a raincoat, yeah, I've got.
Speaker 6: In fact, he's bringing the cup, bringing a cup.
Speaker 5: This shows you how long I've had my truck and
Speaker 5: how long it's been since I've cleaned.
Speaker 4: Out my truck.
Speaker 5: I have in one of the little back pockets in
Speaker 5: the back on the door. In the back seat of
Speaker 5: the truck, I've got a poncho. That's that I bought
Speaker 5: when the Rangers were playing in the playoffs in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: and I just kept it back there. I said, okay
Speaker 5: during that playoff series that, okay, with they win, I
Speaker 5: may have to go in the clubhouse.
Speaker 10: Whatever.
Speaker 5: So I bought like three ponchos, and so one of them,
Speaker 5: at least one I've.
Speaker 4: Got back there.
Speaker 5: It's still been there for seven years. So I'll be
Speaker 5: taking it in.
Speaker 9: You don't have to wear it, and you have to
Speaker 9: wear it.
Speaker 7: No, No, that's not very professional. You know you shouldn't
Speaker 7: you wear the ponzo and you're gonna be interviewing.
Speaker 4: You know what you gotta have the first time came?
Speaker 6: Well, how about that?
Speaker 5: The first time the Rangers ever won a division championship
Speaker 5: was nineteen ninety six, and I was the around the
Speaker 5: ballpark reporter on the Rangers television network, and so it
Speaker 5: was my assignment. And back then it was a huge
Speaker 5: deal because the Rangers had never won anything and they'd
Speaker 5: gone It was their twenty fifth season here and so
Speaker 5: they finally win and the game didn't get over till
Speaker 5: like midnight, and so I did on the Rangers network.
Speaker 5: I did all the interviews, and I got. I was
Speaker 5: wearing a suit and with no protection, no nothing whatever,
Speaker 5: and so I was just drenched in champagne and driving
Speaker 5: home at two o'clock in the morning. If I got,
Speaker 5: if I had got, if I got on the way home,
Speaker 5: there's no way I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Buddy, what do you been doing?
Speaker 6: I promise.
Speaker 5: So without drinking and drop, I was going straight to
Speaker 5: the pokey.
Speaker 4: Do I need to get go home and get you
Speaker 4: my ski goggles.
Speaker 6: That's what he would need.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to get that's what you need. That's
Speaker 4: more than anything, because they all wear goggles.
Speaker 5: Yes, I got the I got the little swim goggles.
Speaker 6: That's okay.
Speaker 4: As long as though I started, I look forward to
Speaker 4: watching later.
Speaker 5: I started swimming this summer, and and uh for the hip, well,
Speaker 5: I just just it's a really good extra. SoSE and
Speaker 5: I was noticing my eyes were because of chlorine or whatever,
Speaker 5: and so I went and bought some goggles.
Speaker 6: And my wife was getting on me.
Speaker 5: Why do you have goggles? You're not a swimmer?
Speaker 4: From now you are, so now those goggles are going
Speaker 4: to come in. I was curious about buying a single
Speaker 4: ticket for the game tonight. There's very very few. Some
Speaker 4: of them are obstructed views. There was one down the line,
Speaker 4: maybe in the outfield. It was one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 4: Would you do it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna look at Evaldi on the mountain night. Yeah, going
Speaker 5: for the kill tonight. And and the other thing that's
Speaker 5: great about that ballpark is just as long as you
Speaker 5: get in, there's plenty of areas there.
Speaker 6: It's a beautiful place to watch it, and it's I
Speaker 6: love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got so you can just stand there,
Speaker 5: Well I could stand there and see over people.
Speaker 4: But just slip that one through.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 4: We're gonna bring it back to the Cowboys. So you're
Speaker 4: saying that if I don't have a press pass, I
Speaker 4: shouldn't buy one of those tickets in the end zone
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys to stand up.
Speaker 5: Don't do that unless you're gonna you have to.
Speaker 6: You have to them.
Speaker 4: I'll beat them. Yeah, r early entrant.
Speaker 5: That's seeing the mad rush.
Speaker 4: Hey, I got connections right exactly.
Speaker 5: You've seen the mad rush when.
Speaker 4: They're open the doors.
Speaker 6: Well, well you saw him in San Francisco. He was
Speaker 6: dodging it.
Speaker 4: I beat those people. And the other thing I can
Speaker 4: do is get up to the second level and get
Speaker 4: in the front, get up them steps.
Speaker 6: There you go. I gotta say though, I'm still a
Speaker 6: Dak man.
Speaker 7: You know, I have been following the x UH formerly
Speaker 7: known as Twitter, and there are players former players out
Speaker 7: there that really hate Dak Prescott and they don't even.
Speaker 5: Know that, and they have roles on Network TV.
Speaker 7: Well they've got another guy, do I tell you whatever
Speaker 7: his name was? Yeah, he was what's going on with him?
Speaker 7: I mean he's he says Dak is trash or something like. Wow,
Speaker 7: things get so personal these days when it comes to
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott. I just don't understand why he is there
Speaker 7: such a inical outlook when it comes to not just
Speaker 7: the way he plays, but just him as a person.
Speaker 7: There's there's something personal about what they feel about him
Speaker 7: that I don't understand.
Speaker 4: And so he waits for the Cowboys number one. I
Speaker 4: get that, Yeah, that's the quarterback.
Speaker 7: I mean, why would you hate a man like that
Speaker 7: who's done so much for the society and and you know,
Speaker 7: had the kind of career that he's had. Very unusual
Speaker 7: situation here. I mean, I get some people are making
Speaker 7: money off of it. Uh you got Smith and Shannon
Speaker 7: and those guys.
Speaker 4: But jealousy, jealousy, man.
Speaker 7: They're making enough money off of it. They're making a
Speaker 7: whole lot of money off of it. But I see
Speaker 7: Dak as being able to come back and do well.
Speaker 7: I and we talked about it. Well, they talked about
Speaker 7: it when it came to his first couple of games.
Speaker 7: The timing has to be there for that offense period,
Speaker 7: not just for Dak, but being higher offense, the offensive
Speaker 7: line has to protect better so that his timing can
Speaker 7: be there so he can go through his progressions even
Speaker 7: when he's under some somewhat a lot of a bit
Speaker 7: of pressure. Those are the kind of things that every
Speaker 7: quarterback needs. You've got to have your offense or your
Speaker 7: offensive line, they have to be there so that he
Speaker 7: can go through his progressions with comfort as opposed to
Speaker 7: being under such stress.
Speaker 9: And Jerry even said it today as you mentioned, Bill,
Speaker 9: but he also said, make no mistake about it, we
Speaker 9: have the quarterback that can get us there. So if
Speaker 9: Jerry thinks, everyone else here thinks, I think everyone needs
Speaker 9: to put a little bit more faith into what we
Speaker 9: have gotten into Monday night, for.
Speaker 7: Sure, and they need to understand that there are certain
Speaker 7: changes they have to make every game. You know, you
Speaker 7: can't just go this is what we do. Well, yeah,
Speaker 7: this is what we do, but there are certain adjustments
Speaker 7: that they're kinda have to be made. Against certain teams
Speaker 7: such as the forty nine ers, you can't just go
Speaker 7: into that game status quo. It's just not the way
Speaker 7: you do it against a team like that. You may
Speaker 7: be able to do that against the NFC East team
Speaker 7: or maybe even.
Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 7: But there are certain teams you can't do that against
Speaker 7: and you will get exposed.
Speaker 4: And that's what happened to know this because I didn't
Speaker 4: realize that. Somebody said, did you Chargers win this weekend?
Speaker 4: I said, I don't remember. They had a boy So
Speaker 4: now they got a lot of what they want to
Speaker 4: do is an extra day. So and Kellen.
Speaker 6: Moore, and Kellen Moore has his whole thing.
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, I think in the new stats
Speaker 4: that just came out, if I could do this real
Speaker 4: quick and find them before we got to go.
Speaker 6: Oh, we already got it.
Speaker 4: Their offense is ranked number five, their defense is ranked
Speaker 4: thirty first, and they are thirty second against the pass.
Speaker 6: So there you go.
Speaker 5: And they're two and two on the season, and.
Speaker 4: They're two and two. Still two and two?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 5: That does it for a Moving on Tuesday edition of
Speaker 5: mix Shots. We are definitely moving on tomorrow as we
Speaker 5: celebrate a Division Series win and teammateted to the America
Speaker 5: League champion.
Speaker 4: Air messed up when he's got to go on the air.
Speaker 6: Go Cowboys.
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