WEBVTT - Who ordered the muon?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Orne, Hey, do you have a lot of cousins

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<v Speaker 1>in your family? Yeah, I've got a few. I have

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<v Speaker 1>maybe over thirty six cousins, maybeing around the number. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big family. Well, would you be surprised to discover,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of late in life, a brand new cousin you'd

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<v Speaker 1>never even heard of before? That would be pretty amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, I guess, but maybe yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised, all right. And then what if that cousin

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be exactly like you, like, look like

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<v Speaker 1>you in every single way. Okay, Yeah, that's that's getting

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, all right. And then what if this

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<v Speaker 1>cousin looks exactly like you? Accept there are two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>times more massive Dan, Hi, I'm Poor. Hey, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>cartoonist and the creator of PhD comics. Hi I'm Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a particle physicist, and I do not have thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six cousins. Welcome to our podcast, Daniel and Jorge Explore

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<v Speaker 1>your Family Tree, in which we examine all the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and fascinating things about the universe, about the big things,

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<v Speaker 1>the small things, and about how things are related to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Yeah. So, um no, that's not the name

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<v Speaker 1>of our podcast. It's actually Daniel and Jorge explain the

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<v Speaker 1>university production of My Heart Radio, in which we do

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<v Speaker 1>examine crazy things about the universe and we try to

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<v Speaker 1>make them relatable. We try to present them in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that you can understand them, so they connect to

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<v Speaker 1>topics that matter to you. Yeah, in a way, we

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<v Speaker 1>do sort of explore the family tree of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how you came to be here, what what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pairings and fusions occurred for you to be

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<v Speaker 1>here in this universe appreciating it and listening to funny podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>H I think one of the reasons people are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the origins of the universe and the creations of

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<v Speaker 1>our cosmos is because they want to understand how we

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<v Speaker 1>got here and what it means in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>people explore their family tree. They want to know where

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<v Speaker 1>did my family come from, what stories are in our past,

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<v Speaker 1>what is my personal context? And also I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a useful way for us to sort of organize our thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we think about the the universe in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of particles, we sometimes think about how those particles

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<v Speaker 1>are related to each other, Like, do particles have families. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you know, every part of anyone's family

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<v Speaker 1>tree or origin tree kind of tells you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of the story of the of the whole thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like how you came to be, how things work, and

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<v Speaker 1>how things move about in life, and other ways your

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<v Speaker 1>life could have gone. Like if you have a very

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<v Speaker 1>successful cousin that's a gazillionaire, then you know, you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>could I have made different choices and been a gazillionaire?

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<v Speaker 1>Or if be people's paths in life diverge. Yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you are that busile in our cousin, then good

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Please please contact us. We would love to

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<v Speaker 1>take your donations. That's right. It would be awesome to

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<v Speaker 1>have at least one gazillionaire listener. Who is our richest listener?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. Pod. You have to send us

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<v Speaker 1>a check. Whoever sends it is the biggest check that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't bounce. When's this little plaque here that I am

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<v Speaker 1>just now putting together. It's made of platinum? Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's going to be once we get those checks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get a drawing of a plaque that's made of platinum.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Even more valuable from a well known

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<v Speaker 1>internet cartoonist exactly. But we do try to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>world around us, and sometimes that means putting things in

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<v Speaker 1>context and understanding what are the patterns, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>structures there, and what clues do those patterns give us

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<v Speaker 1>about that sort of fundamental nature of the universe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so to be on the podcast, we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a particle in nature that is maybe not the most

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<v Speaker 1>famous one um and maybe not the most well known

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<v Speaker 1>one or consequential in your existence, but which does I

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<v Speaker 1>think tell you a little bit about and told humanity

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how the universe works. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the non gazillionaire cousin. This is the cousin that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up maybe sleeping under the overpast and wearing funny

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<v Speaker 1>clothes to the family reunion. I feel bad for this particle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this particle doesn't need your help. It's very massive. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So in today's episode, we'll be talking about the muan electrons, mysterious,

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<v Speaker 1>lesser known, much more massive cousin. And I'm biased, of

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<v Speaker 1>course because I'm a particle physicist, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fascinating to think about how we know each particle

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<v Speaker 1>is there. We talk about the standard model of particle

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<v Speaker 1>physics sometimes, but that's a theoretical construct. It's like our

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<v Speaker 1>idea for how these particles might relate to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fascinating. We'll dig into all that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's also really important. Remember each of these were discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a story behind each particle. Humanity didn't know it

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<v Speaker 1>existed and then boom, some experiment revealed it. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, we've talked about the first discovery of the particle,

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<v Speaker 1>how the whole concept of a particle was created, the electron.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we talked about how we know the photon is

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, how we know it's really a particle, the

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<v Speaker 1>photo electric effect, And so now we're gonna take the

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<v Speaker 1>next step and talk about the discovery of the muan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I think that every particle tells a story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and also every story is made out of particle.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's kind of this really weird, confusing loop there

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<v Speaker 1>that honestly, Yeah, this is like the Superhero Origin story

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<v Speaker 1>particle version. Yeah. So the muan is not a name

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<v Speaker 1>that rolls off the tongue. Makes me think of maybe cows,

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<v Speaker 1>mu muans, maybe uan Muan, Muan mu Off, muanmu Off.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking sort about karate kid thing there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's back to the eighties reference. Yeah, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>age differences. And it's it's funny actually because the name

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<v Speaker 1>Uan is totally inappropriate. We'll dig into it later. But

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<v Speaker 1>they named it before they discovered it because they thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be a different particle, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they sort of changed the name later. Um, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great history for naming particles. Boy, my favorite topic

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<v Speaker 1>in science. Yeah, and so I was wondering, how much

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<v Speaker 1>do people know about me once? Is it a famous

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<v Speaker 1>particle or is it sort of the darker cousin of

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<v Speaker 1>the electron that nobody really knows about, hasn't gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>same Instagram attention the black Sheep, the gotee wearing particle

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<v Speaker 1>of the family tree. Now you're setting enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>like the grumpy particle. It's going to come in with

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<v Speaker 1>some evil plan to finally get It's it's revenge, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's you already made this particle, the homeless particle that

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<v Speaker 1>lives under a bridge. So yeah, that was the sad

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<v Speaker 1>particle that deserves our love and compassion, not the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's been plotting its victorious return to the center of attention. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what these particles, you know, physics, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of drama. But as usual, I walked around

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked people if they knew what the muan

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<v Speaker 1>was and how we knew it was a thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So before you listen to these answers, think about it

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. If someone asked you what a mu

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<v Speaker 1>on is, would you know what it is? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>heard it before? Here's what people had to say. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a unit of measure. It's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental elements or particle of what makes up everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Mu one. I believe this to be the name of

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<v Speaker 1>a sub atomic particle uh luans luans uh. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what classification they follow under as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>naming conventions. Fundamental particle, some sort. It's real small subotomic particles.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of represented what it does. How do we

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<v Speaker 1>know nuance exist um particle starts. So what's your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>of these answers today? Good? It sounds like most people

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<v Speaker 1>have heard of it or I heard of the word before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, very only a few people said never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of it or think it was a unit of measure,

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know how much water? Would you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have seven muans of water. I wonder that if

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<v Speaker 1>you pronounced it correctly, maybe they knew about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>just under a different pronunciation. Do you think I'm mispronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>the name of mu. I don't know. I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the correct way? Is it muan or muan? Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>making it sound like a Disney movie, like, oh, my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Disney princess is mulan. My favorite Disney princess muan muan. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great way, though, to get more attention

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<v Speaker 1>for particles in the mainstream. We should get Disney to

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<v Speaker 1>name the next Disney Princess after a particle. Why not that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why it could be the next Pixure movie. What it's like?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the emotional roller coaster right of being a fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>particle of nature? Yeah? So much to explore there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I expect that will be getting checks from Pixar when

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<v Speaker 1>they make a billion dollar movie out of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was impressed with these answers, though, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick a bone about one thing. People say, yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fundamental particle, totally cool. People also say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sub atomic particle or it's one of the fundamental particles

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<v Speaker 1>that make up everything. And that's really a key idea

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<v Speaker 1>that I think people have not understood about muans, that

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<v Speaker 1>you can be a tiny particle and not be sub atomic,

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<v Speaker 1>not be part of the atom. Oh, I see, subotomic

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't just mean it's smaller than atom. You're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>it means that you're part of the atom. Remember, fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>particles have no size, their dots, they're zero volumes, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're all smaller than the atom. In that sense of

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<v Speaker 1>being fundamental guarantees you'd be smaller than the atom. I

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<v Speaker 1>think to me, sub atomic means it's part of the atom,

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<v Speaker 1>like you break it up and you find it inside

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<v Speaker 1>the atom. Okay, so we'll get into that, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring it down for people. For us, what is a

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<v Speaker 1>muan and why does it sound like an electron? You

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<v Speaker 1>it ends with O N, but maybe, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the electron. Yeah, but it really is related to the electron.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like the electrons cousin. And by that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that it's identical to the electron in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. It has the same electric charge, it has

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<v Speaker 1>the same interactions with matter like it interacts via the

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<v Speaker 1>weak force and via the electromagnetic force, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel the strong force, just like the electron. It has

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<v Speaker 1>a neutrino, just like the electron has its neutrino. So

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<v Speaker 1>in so many ways, it's exactly the same as the electron.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound like when you discover a new particle and it's

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<v Speaker 1>totally different, like a cork or a gluon, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>completely different from the electron. This one is very very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the electron. It's like weirdly similar, but then

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<v Speaker 1>with one important difference. Okay, so it's a particles. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a cow, it's not a Disney princess. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a particle, meaning like it's a it's one of these

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<v Speaker 1>things that you see nature in the universe, like things

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<v Speaker 1>that pop up and you can touch them and and

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<v Speaker 1>there it's a thing. Yes, muans are a thing. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a little thing. There are particles, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>little dots of matter. They have mass and they have

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<v Speaker 1>charge and they interact. Okay, so it's it's a particle

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<v Speaker 1>like the electron. But you're saying and you say it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin of the electron, not that they share like

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<v Speaker 1>not that their parents were siblings, but just like in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that it's very similar to the electron. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when we organize our knowledge, we look for patterns. We

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<v Speaker 1>look for similarities. Right like when we were a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, when the state of knowledge about the universe

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<v Speaker 1>was the periodic table. We didn't just have like a

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<v Speaker 1>pile of different elements and say here's an element. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an element. We said, oh, look, this one is similar

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<v Speaker 1>to that one. They're both really active, or these are

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<v Speaker 1>really similar because they're both really inactive, or this one

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<v Speaker 1>weighs a tiny bit more than that one. We notice patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>We put those patterns together in the same way we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for patterns in the fundamental particles. So we try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out which ones are related to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have only a few handles on each particle.

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<v Speaker 1>Is only like a few things we can know about

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<v Speaker 1>a particle, right, And so is this a particle that

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<v Speaker 1>we can see in our everyday lives, like is it

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<v Speaker 1>floating around? Does it move around wires and electricity like

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<v Speaker 1>the electron, or is this kind of a weird one

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<v Speaker 1>of those weird particles And you know you don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>actually see Yeah, you don't see the muan because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't last for very long. It lives for two point

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<v Speaker 1>two microseconds and then it turns into an electron and

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<v Speaker 1>some neutrinos. But they are actually everywhere. There's ten thousand

0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.840
<v Speaker 1>muons going through a square meter of Earth every minute,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a lots of muans everywhere, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't really see them very easily because they don't last

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<v Speaker 1>very long. Wait, what I mean? How can they be

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere but also only last two point to microseconds? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that they're they're constantly coming into existence, lasting

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<v Speaker 1>for two point two microseconds and then disappearing and breaking up,

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<v Speaker 1>or what does that mean? How can they be all

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<v Speaker 1>around is but also evaporating at the same time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two things going on there. One is your right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're being created um when particles hit the atmosphere. So

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<v Speaker 1>protons hit the atmosphere and they create a shower of particles,

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<v Speaker 1>some which include muans, and those muans fly along a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but they don't last very long, just two

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<v Speaker 1>point two microseconds, and then they turn into electrons. But

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<v Speaker 1>they last for two point two microseconds according to their

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<v Speaker 1>clocks because they move really fast. There's a relativistic time dilation.

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<v Speaker 1>So the according to us that two point two microseconds

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<v Speaker 1>takes longer to click, and so for us it can

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<v Speaker 1>take like seconds or minutes from muans to decay. But

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<v Speaker 1>for them, if you're sitting on top of the muan,

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<v Speaker 1>it would only last You would only be alive for

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<v Speaker 1>two point two microseconds. Yeah, that's the half life of

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<v Speaker 1>a muan. So muon is not stable. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>an electron you can just sit there for eons and

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<v Speaker 1>eons and just be itself. A muon is a heavy particle,

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<v Speaker 1>and heavy particles like to decay into lighter particles. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the muon turns into an electron very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>according to its clock. Oh, I see the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>we see. The ones coming from the atmosphere are moving fast,

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<v Speaker 1>so they last longer. But if I just created a

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<v Speaker 1>mew on here in front of me, it would last

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<v Speaker 1>only for two point two micro seconds, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going anywhere. If you could bake muans in your oven

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<v Speaker 1>and you take them out of the oven two point

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<v Speaker 1>two microseconds later, boom, they turn into a electro. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta eat them up real quick. Exactly. They're like

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<v Speaker 1>making fortune cookies or toss them really fast, have him

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<v Speaker 1>pop out of the toaster really fast, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>they would last longer technically, right, that's true. Yeah, exactly.

0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Somebody could shoot muans into your mouth and it would

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<v Speaker 1>last long enough to get there. I wouldn't recommend that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's not a suggestion for something somebody should do.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, two point two microseconds it is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a long time for a particle that's this massive to last.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what does it mean that it disappears or

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<v Speaker 1>breaks up like it? It's just unstable like it, just

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<v Speaker 1>it's made out of other things and it breaks up

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<v Speaker 1>or literally just kind of evaporates into energy and that

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<v Speaker 1>energy turns into something else. Yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>These are fundamental particles, so they're not made up of

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. As far as we know. The muon turns

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<v Speaker 1>into the electron. It's not like it has an electron

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it, and it breaks up into an electron

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<v Speaker 1>and other stuff it converts. It goes from a muan,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns via the weak force into a W particle

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<v Speaker 1>and a neutrino, and then the W particle turns into

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<v Speaker 1>an electron and another neutrino. So the muon turns into

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<v Speaker 1>an electron and two different neutrinos, but it didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>those bits inside of it. Remember, particle physics is like alchemy.

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<v Speaker 1>We can convert one kind of matter into another kind

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<v Speaker 1>of matter. Okay, so it's um. It doesn't break apart,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just somehow. It's it's very existence. The universe sort

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<v Speaker 1>of doesn't like it. Like it. It can just seesis

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<v Speaker 1>to exist and in favor of other things existing instead

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, and this is true for every particle

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<v Speaker 1>that is pretty massive. The universe doesn't like massive particles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like putting a particle on the top of a hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually it's going to roll down. And so the muon

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<v Speaker 1>is like the at the top of the on. The

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<v Speaker 1>electron is rolling down to the bottom of the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually the muon is going to turn into the electron.

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<v Speaker 1>And every particle in nature that that can do this

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<v Speaker 1>does this. The only reason the electron doesn't is that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no lighter particle for it to turn into. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we are able to exist, because the

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<v Speaker 1>universe does seem to like electrons and quarks which make

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<v Speaker 1>us up. And so that's why we were stable. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we were made out of me as, we would

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<v Speaker 1>disappear pretty quickly. Yes, exactly. We are made up of

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<v Speaker 1>the lightest particles out there, up corks and down corks.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the lightest corks. Electrons are the lightest version of

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of particle called a lepton. So the matter

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<v Speaker 1>that makes us up that's stable is made out of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that can't turn into lighter stuff because there is

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<v Speaker 1>no lighter stuff for it to turn into. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing for it to turn into, so we we

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<v Speaker 1>stay where we are. But the muon is heavy and

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<v Speaker 1>could turn into something else. So it does precisely. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you wondering, like, well, what about a photon?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't an electron turn into a photon? Of photon

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<v Speaker 1>is mass lists Remember that there are rules about how

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<v Speaker 1>these things happen, and one of those rules is conservation

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<v Speaker 1>of electric charge. An electron has a minus one charge,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can't turn into a photon which has zero charge,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to somehow disappear that charge. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way for that to happen is for an electron to

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<v Speaker 1>hit a plus one positron, and then they can turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a photon together, but for a particle to just

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneously decay, it has to convert to another particle that

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<v Speaker 1>has all the same sort of quantum mechanical numbers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the muon is the electrons massive cousin or massive

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like alternate universe version of the electron. Right, Yeah,

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.400
<v Speaker 1>it's two hundred times the mass of the electron. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really really massive. That's a lot. It's like crunched into

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<v Speaker 1>the same meat. Yes, exactly. It's like if you met

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<v Speaker 1>another version of you, but you weren't bigger, you were

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<v Speaker 1>denser or something. You're two hundred times as much mass,

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<v Speaker 1>but still fundamental. And it doesn't hang around existence very long,

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<v Speaker 1>and it usually breaks up into or not breaks up

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<v Speaker 1>into runs into lighter particles, so we don't really seed

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<v Speaker 1>around that much. But still it's sort of an important

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<v Speaker 1>part of the universe, and it seems that it's important

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 1>part of the universe and also tells us a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the mysteries of how everything is put together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it actually lasts a long time for a heavy particle.

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<v Speaker 1>Other particles that are heavy, like the Higgs boson, they

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<v Speaker 1>decay much more quickly. They decayed in like ten to

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<v Speaker 1>the minus twenty seconds, whereas this one decays very slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just two point two microseconds. And the reason is

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<v Speaker 1>that it decays via the weak force, which is very weak.

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.199
<v Speaker 1>To the weaker the force, the longer takes for that

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<v Speaker 1>decay to happen. M hmm. All right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit more, and also how it was

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<v Speaker 1>discovered and why it is such an important particle. But

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<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break. All right, So the

0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>meuan decays by the weak force. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>How can something decay via a force like the force

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 1>makes a decay? Yeah, the fource sort of provides the

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<v Speaker 1>avenue for the decay to happen. Like, how does a

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.600
<v Speaker 1>muon turn into an electron just just roll down a

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<v Speaker 1>hill and say, hey, now I'm an electron. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to has to be an interaction there. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is the muon turns into a W particle and

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<v Speaker 1>a neutrino. And the W particle, remember, is the particle

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<v Speaker 1>of the weak force. It's like the weak force version

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<v Speaker 1>of the photon. And so that's what we mean when

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<v Speaker 1>we say uses the weak force to decay. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just spontaneously happen. Something has to sort of carry that information,

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<v Speaker 1>so it has to make it happen. It's like a reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and that reaction always includes one of the forces, and

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<v Speaker 1>in this case it uses the weak force, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that weak force came out of just its own energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It uses the mass. Right. The muon is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>amount of energy in it because it has so much mass,

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<v Speaker 1>and that mass is turned into the energy of the

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<v Speaker 1>electron and the neutrinos that come out of it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the weak force turns the mass of the muan into

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<v Speaker 1>very small masses of these other particles and gives them

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy, right, and it ends up as

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<v Speaker 1>an electron and to neutrinos precisely. All right, Well, to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us Daniel, how was it discovered and why is

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<v Speaker 1>this an important particle? Well, it was discovered initially in

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic rays. Um. People saw these particles just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>shooting from the sky and they didn't understand what was

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<v Speaker 1>making them, and they thought, oh, well, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>found a few particles, so these are probably electrons. This

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, in the early nineteen hundreds, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a really deep understanding of how particles work. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a good bench of particles, and so people thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everything they saw they thought in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the particles at the time. So you have to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of wind your mind back to what we knew at

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the time. Back then, we knew about protons, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>about neutrons, we knew about electrons, and so people saw

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<v Speaker 1>these particles shooting from the sky. They didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>made them, but what they saw was that they penetrated

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<v Speaker 1>really far into matter, much more than electrons could. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw the actual nuance and not the not what it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like after it decays or turns into something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we actually you can actually see and feel the muants.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really feel them, but you can make particle

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 1>detectors that can detect them. You can actually do this

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<v Speaker 1>in your garage using something called the cloud chamber. They

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<v Speaker 1>were able to see them using detectors that they put together.

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<v Speaker 1>And these detectors were like a cubic piece of film,

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<v Speaker 1>like remember the old way films worked, where like light

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<v Speaker 1>was exposed on the film. You didn't have a digital

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<v Speaker 1>camera or anything, and that made some kind of chemical change.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, you can make like a solid cube of this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just take a solid cube of it, you leave

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<v Speaker 1>it up on a mountain and you leave it there

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<v Speaker 1>for like six months, and then you cart it back

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<v Speaker 1>down or you guys your grad students to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you slice it into pieces and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>develop each of those. And what you do is you

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<v Speaker 1>see all the particles that shot through it in those

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<v Speaker 1>six months, and so they can see and when they

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<v Speaker 1>did this, they saw all these particles shooting through this

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<v Speaker 1>film and they were surprised at how far they were going,

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<v Speaker 1>because electrons shouldn't get that far. Electrons penetrating a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and then they stopped. But these particles were shooting

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through. It's kind of like a bull

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<v Speaker 1>in a china's shop universus, like a mouse in a

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<v Speaker 1>china shop. Yeah, And they didn't understand that. They thought, well,

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, are there two kinds of electrons or there's

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>sometimes electrons can penetrate really far. It was really a

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle at the time. What made them think it was

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<v Speaker 1>an electron? Why couldn't it be like, uh, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of new atom or something. We did know it had

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<v Speaker 1>negative charge, and so I think that's what made people

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<v Speaker 1>think it was more likely to be an electron or

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<v Speaker 1>something like an electron than something positive like inside the nucleus.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember, at the time, we only knew basically about protons, neutrons,

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<v Speaker 1>and electrons, and so everything we saw where like all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, having this imagination that we could just

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<v Speaker 1>explain everything in the universe in terms of these particles,

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and that was It was a great success of the

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>particle model at the time, right, like everything could be

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>built out of protons, neutrons, and electrons. What a wonderful simplification.

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And so when we first saw these particles that penetrated

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<v Speaker 1>really far, we thought, well, it must be one of those, right,

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But it was not. It was not, and people were

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<v Speaker 1>able to then later douce it in the laboratory using

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<v Speaker 1>collisions and and all sorts of other stuff, and they

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that if you put it in a magnetic field,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't bend as much as an electron. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when they decided, you know what, this must be a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of thing. It's like a new version of

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<v Speaker 1>the electron, a different flavor of the electron, because it

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<v Speaker 1>must be more massive, which is why it doesn't bend

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<v Speaker 1>inside the magnetic field as much reflected as much because

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<v Speaker 1>it has so much mass, it that just has more inertia. Precisely,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a stronger magnetic field to bend a mu

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<v Speaker 1>on than it does for an electron. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a scandal in particle physics at the time. Scandal. Yeah,

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>people were upset. They were like, what a mu on?

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Who ordered that? Like, we don't need this. Get out

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of here with your ridiculous new particle. We have this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful description of the universe. We don't want more particles.

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Up until then, everything that you knew about helped make

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. It's kind of what you're saying, like everything

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you knew about at a purpose. Yeah, we had taken

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<v Speaker 1>apart the stuff around us and found the basic building blocks,

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and then we didn't. Some people were like I don't

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>want to hear stories about other building blocks that could

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>be out there. It just sort of confuses the issue, right,

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a shift in the question not just what are

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we made out of? But what is the basic organizing

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>principle of the universe. It shows you all of a

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>sudden that there's a larger question you didn't even think

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to ask. It's like you find something that you don't

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>know what to do with it, like it it doesn't

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>help you with what you knew about how things work. Yeah,

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you're putting together jigsaw puzzle and all of a sudden,

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody hands you like a really big piece that just

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit, and you're like, what I didn't ask for,

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that I don't need. That doesn't help me with my problem. Like, well,

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but okay, but this piece is here and it's not

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>going away, right, Yeah, And so it makes you think

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that maybe there's another puzzle, or that the puzzle is

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>bigger than you think it is. Yes, all of a

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>sudden you realize this is a three dimensional puzzle and

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you've been only playing on on two dimensions, and and

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it just blows your mind. And so that's. Ah, it's

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of an earthquake, an intellectual earthquake through the field

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>at the moment. But also it's a great opportunity. Those

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>are the kind of discoveries that make you realize, Wow,

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole larger question to ask, and there's a

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>whole world of answers out there. And of course now

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>we know there's not just the meal one. There's also

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the Tao, which is the even heavier version of it,

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>and that every particle has these cousins. Yeah. I like

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>how this counts as a scandal in physics, Like was

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<v Speaker 1>it on the front page of the Daily Physics News

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>or the National Enquiring Enquirer of Physics? Um newspapers, people

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:36.479
<v Speaker 1>to tabloids. People had to give testimony about this and

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>there You know, physicists are not that exciting, so we

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>just got to create drama wherever we can. There was

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>even more drama because some people had predicted the existence

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of a particle sort of similar to this. Mm hmm,

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean predicted like just just guessing. Yeah. Well,

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>there was a famous physicist named Yukaba the Genius and

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>won a Nobel Prize for all sorts of fascinating stuff.

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>And he was trying to understand the strong force. He

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, the weak force, we have that one.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>We have the photon for the electromagnetism um, but what

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>mediates the strong force? And he did some calculations that

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he thought, I bet there's a particle out there about

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred times the mass of the electron and it

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>mediates the strong force. All right, So that's his prediction, right,

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And back in the day, physics would just make predictions,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>like here's my idea and here's what I predict, Like

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>we need this for this for what we know to

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>make sense. Yeah, just like with the Higgs Boson. Peter

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Higgs said, this doesn't make sense to me, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the universe in a new way, then

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>it makes more sense. And this new way predicts a

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>new particle, so you can test my theory. That was

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>what you Kala did, and he predicted a new particle

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>about two hundred times the mass of the electron. Then

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>they found this particle and you Kal was like, who

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I was right, But it turns out this particle has

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the strong force at all. So

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a coincidence, right, And he still got

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Prize. He still got the Nobel Prize, but

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not for this and um, not for this one. But

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>he's sort of the reason why this particle has a

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>strange name. Oh really, he he was a fan of Cows.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he liked Kobe Beef, you know,

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy's Japanese or anything, but he you know, we

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>had the electron, which is really really light, and we

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>had the proton, which is like two thousand times the

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>mass of the electron, and he predicted a particle sort

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>of an intermediate mass, and so he wanted it called

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>like the you know, the mazo tron something where mazing

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 1>means like middle, and so that was the sort of

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the origin of this, like, let's call these particles here,

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, in this mass region, we'll call the meso particles. Well,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you have to call it the messo on

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>or messing on or I feel like just to be

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>consistent here. And then later people were like, well, it's

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>not really have anything to do with these other particles

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>we found in the same mass, but we'll just keep

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>calling it the muon anyway, I bet he wanted to

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>call it the me on. I'm so smart. Yeah, but

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this is where like, come on, dude, but it's a

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a fascinating moment in physics because or the yuan

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>is the mean, or how about we calling muan done compromise.

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how these decisions get made, and that's why

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>we have such terrible names for particles. Yeah. So, but

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>now it's so it's a well known thing, like everyone

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>knows about muans. Did they know that they're there and

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>you can study them. You can. You can. They're coming

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>through going through our bodies right now at ten thousand

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>times per minute. Yeah, ten thousand muans per square meter

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>per minute, and you're right. At first it was totally

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>exotic and what is this weird thing? And now we

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>know it's a relative of the electron, but also created

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>another field, which is cosmic ray physics. It was the

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>first cosmic ray scene. And at first people weren't sure,

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>like where are these particles coming from? We know they're

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>coming down from the sky, but are they made in

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the sky or whatever. And people did all these crazy experiments,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>like balloon experiments with a shot detectors up into the

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere with balloons and discovered that the higher up you go,

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the more muans there are, and that tells you that

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>like muanes are being created in the upper atmosphere, and

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>then they're decaying as they sort of come down to Earth.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>And finally people put together this picture like particles were

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>hitting the top of the atmosphere and creating these showers

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of particles and we were just sort of picking up

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the little last bits of the fireworks as they hit

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the surface. Right. I bet they also try to shoot

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a cow to the moon. That's where the inspiration. Well,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you know how the Russians put a dog in one

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of their first attempts to go to space. I won't

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>comment as to whether particle physicists ever used a weather

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>balloon to launch a cow. Yeah, they're like, we gotta

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>up those Russians a dog. Anyone can launch a dog

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>into space. This is this is well before the space race.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>This is the cow race. But I love thinking about

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what it must have been to be a physicist at

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that time, and too like crack in a whole new

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>era of discovery bye bye, you know, putting photographic plates

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>up on mountains and just seeing like what's up there.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>There's so many amazing things to discover. Somebody like new

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>World were opened up. They discovered that all this invisible

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff is happening around us. That's really wonderful to sort

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of like crack open a new way of looking at

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Yeah, all right, let's get into the last

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>bit here, which is what does the Muan teaches, what

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>does it tell us about how the universe is put together?

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>But first let's take another quick break, all right, I know,

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>so the muan is a thing. It's there. It's super massive,

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>looks just like the electron. We can feel it. It's

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>going through us right now. Why is it there? That's

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the question that maybe a lot of people have. I mean,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't need the muan to make iPhones or ezas,

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>so why is it there? Is that the standard upon

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>which we judge things. Now, if we don't need you

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>for iPhones or pizzas, you don't need to exist. What

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>else is there? Daniel? That's my whole life basically, just personally.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Um No, it's a good question. It's a question I'd

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like to know the answer to. Why does the muan exist?

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>The short version of the answer is the title of

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a great book I read last year. It's called We

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Have No Idea? Because we really do have new idea.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Why the muan is there? Doesn't seem to be used

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>for anything, is what you're saying. Like neutrinos, I think

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>also are there, but we don't know why why they're

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>they're right, Yeah, neutrinos and muans and many of the

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>other particles are not part of the atom. You know,

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>build them, You don't use them to build up the

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we're familiar with, but they sort of can

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>exist there on Nature's menu. You might ask the same

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>question about like some of the really heavy elements, like

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>why is plutonium a thing? Well, it turns out you

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>can assemble protons and new trons and electrons in this

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>way that's stable, and it hangs out and it does

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>this funny thing. We call it plutonium, and plutonium also

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the case, right, it like breaks up. This one actually

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>breaks up into other things. But it's also kind of ephemeral,

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like it's only there for so long before it becomes

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>something else. Precisely, and in the same way we organize

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>our list of particles, and we want to like, why

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>are these there? What does this tell us about maybe

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>one deeper layer of reality, Like maybe the muans and

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>electrons are made out of smaller particles and these are

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just like different ways to assemble those little internal bits, right,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's a few ways to assemble them, the way

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that there's a few ways to assemble protons and neutrons

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to get different elements. Maybe there's a few ways to

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>assemble these little tiny ons. One way is to get

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>an electron, in other ways to get a muan, in

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>other ways to get a towel, which is the third

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>member of that family. We just don't know. We know

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a clue, though, right, it's a tantalizing clue that

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>there's something going on here. We just don't know what

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it means. It's a clue as to some sort of

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>hint that there's some sort of rule for how electrons exist.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Like if you can make an electron that's heavier, maybe

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that tells you something about what makes an electron an

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>electron precisely, and why there are three of them tells

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you something about how that rule has to play out.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Because there's three electrons, the electron, the muant in the towel,

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>there's three neutrinos. There's also three up corks is three

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>down quarks. Like there's something really fundamental going on there

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we just don't understand. But it seems like an obvious clue.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like you're doing your jigsaw puzzle and

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you find this other weird piece. It turns out, oh,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that piece fits into a different jigsaw puzzle you didn't

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>even know about, and you know it's as you start

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to get this larger picture right or you find it

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like all of your pieces have three sides to them.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Then you start thinking, you know, whoever made this puzzle,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if it was made by somebody had a thing for threes, Yeah,

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the universe has a thing for threes, and we don't

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>know why that is. The Muan was our first clue

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that particles have copies at all, and now it turns

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>out every particle has three copies, and so that's a

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>huge open question. Is a kind of question people are

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna look back in a hundred years and be like, man,

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that was so obvious. Why couldn't they figure it out?

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>If I was a physicist in I would totally figured

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it out. But it's not so easy when you don't

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>know the answer when you have to come up with it.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's important for people to understand it's not you know,

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not part of the stuff that we are made of,

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>but it does answer this larger question. It's like what

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is the sort of context of everything? That's why we're

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, like what are all the particles?

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Because the more particles you put into this table, the

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>more clues we get as to what the rules are

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>for making this table. And then maybe we can peel

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>back a layer and show how this table is put together, right,

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>or I guess maybe a question I would have is,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you even know it's a separate thing? Like

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<v Speaker 1>why isn't it just called the heavy electron? Could it

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>just be an electron that just gets a lot of

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>mass added onto it somehow through energy or something. That's

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>a deep question and goes sort of to like what

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>do we call a particle? Part of the idea entity

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>particle is its mass? Like that's how we identify what

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>particle we're talking about. We measure the mass and we say, well,

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 1>if it has this mass, it's an electron a sort

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of semantics, but it's it's what we mean by an electron.

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>We mean quantum dot in space that has these properties,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and one of those is the mass. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>only a few. It's not like this, it's a there's

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a knob you can't have halfway between ELECTRONO mu on

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this like the electron mass, the muan mask, the town mass.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>There's some notches there, right, And so this was the

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<v Speaker 1>first particle that kind of we found outside of the

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>ones that make up atoms. Is that what you're saying

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that this was the first one that was weird? Yeah, precisely,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's weird and cute. I'm glad you're finally putting positive

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>attributes on the on the muon you're trying to make it.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I said weird, I didn't say cute. I think somebody

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>has a particle fetish and it's not the cartoon is. Yes, well,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe the particle physicist has a particle fetish. I will

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>totally own up to that. I love you, particles. I

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>think we all love particles by necessity. We can't live

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>without you, like particles when they make up pizza and iPhones,

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>though otherwise you don't care about them. You objectify particles

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and cartoon is cartoonists. Well, I think this particle is

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting in that it also kind of hints, you know,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>at the the universe is full, is full of these

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>small little details that people can't explain right now, and

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 1>then maybe tell us a little bit about that there

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>are other mysteries yet to discover. Yeah, and you know

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the story of how the muan was discovered is also motivational, right,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>people saw this weird stuff in these pictures and they

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>could have just shrugged it off. It could have been like,

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, electrons are doing some weird that day whatever,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>but instead of cracked open this whole other mystery, and

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>we are still doing that. We still don't totally understand

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the muan. One thing we'd like to understand is the

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>muan's magnetic field. Oh, it's a it's odd. It has

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a weird magnetic field. Yeah. These particles, remember, have quantum spin,

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>so they're doing something we like spinning. That's giving them

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>each a little magnetic field because they have electric charge

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and spinning charges give magnetic fields. But when we predict

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the magnetic field of the mu want from what we

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know about it, and then we go when we measure

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the magnetic field, it's a little bit different. It's not

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly right, And that little difference we could say, I

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, shrug it off. Maybe mu want is doing

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>some weird that day, or it could be a clue.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>It could be that the muant is like interacting with new,

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>weird heavy particles we haven't even seen before. It could

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>be the first evidence that there are more particles out

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>there that we haven't yet discovered. And also they help

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>us unravel ancient mysteries like maybe you heard about how

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>muans are used to take a picture of the inside

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of pyramids. What do you mean, like we can make

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>an meon viewer, like like me on glasses. No, you

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>can use me on to like x ray a pyramid,

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because what happens is muans, zillion muans shooting from the

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>sky through everything. And if you take a muan detector

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and you put it on the other side of something,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you can tell sort of the density of that thing,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>because muans will penetrate air differently than they'll penetrate raw,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>for example. And so you take a lot of muans,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you shoot them through something, you can tell whether that

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is full, is hollow or not hollow. And so

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>they did this recently by looking at muans that went

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>through the Great Pyramids, because we're curious, like what's inside

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the Great Pyramid, but you don't want to take it apart,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and so they use it basically to x ray the

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Great Pyramids, like you put a detector underneath the pyramid

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>or or what. Yeah, you take the detectors as far

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>underneath the pyramids as you can in some of those

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>rooms that do exist. And you know, you can't build

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>an x ray gun the size of the pyramids. But

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the sky is a muan gun, right, The sky is

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>shooting muans at us all the time. The sky is

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a muan gun. Oh my god. Yeah, put on your

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>tin hats, folks, because the sky really is shooting particles.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>That was like, I need like a lead titanium head,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 1>not a tin head. Maybe, you know, maybe the Pharas

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>have the right idea. Maybe that's why they have those

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>really weird head dresses. Well, that's what I was going

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to ask, is how do you know what meal On

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>look like after they go through aliens? If there are

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>aliens inside the pyramid, you wouldn't know. Wow. I was

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so ready with an answer to that question until you

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>went to aliens. And now I'm totally at all awesome.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm here, Daniel, to ask the tough questions

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that are on everyone's minds. Joking aside, they did find

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>something inside the pyramids. They think they may have found

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>a new empty room inside the pyramids that they didn't

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>know about before. Is the way the muans full of

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>cows before the cows are the aliens actually to wrap

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it all up, then we're in deep trouble when they're

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>overlords coming and they're like, what are you guys doing?

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And they say, welcome to our our leader, King muon

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the first first of his name. No, they found that

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>inside the Great Pyramid there may be a new hollow

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>section that nobody knew about before. And it's only things

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to Muans that we were able to Muan x ray

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the p It's a new on chamber they found. Thanks. Yes,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so it may not be inside your iPhone and it

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 1>may not be inside your pizza, but it does help

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>unravel ancient mysteries about ancient civilizations. Al Right, well, with that,

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>we will wrap it up and we hope you enjoyed

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that little discussion about this unknown but supermassive and mysterious

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>part of the universe, part of our family of cousins, particles, big, small,

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>massive or not. We'd love you all, at least I do.

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