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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: I have to you know, not the flex or anything.

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Speaker 2: But high school was like a good time for me.

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Speaker 3: I mean like I was in nerd so I was

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Speaker 2: With because Evan on Catch twenty two, you make a

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Speaker 2: noise that is so unfathomably uncomfortable futation, yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: it sounds like eh, but really under your breath, do

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Speaker 2: you know what he's talking about?

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Speaker 3: Now we've all had, but now we do.

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Speaker 4: Just does came up when I was with my buddies

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Speaker 4: about getting the ack was my girl was a little

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Speaker 4: interested in me, but I didn't like her because she

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Speaker 4: smelled like chocolate.

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Speaker 2: Everyone was like the chocolate and it was like.

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Speaker 5: Her perfume or her sound whatever, wasn't it? And I

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Speaker 5: love chocolate?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 6: When when is the person too far away to stop

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Speaker 6: and hold?

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Speaker 1: You know what happened to me today?

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Speaker 2: What's that distance? I think it's about ten feet?

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Speaker 6: Told, it takes me about an hour, not even an hour,

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Speaker 6: Like that's.

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Speaker 7: How small My love that's that it takes you an hour.

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Speaker 2: He's doing it twice, so it should be a half

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Speaker 2: doors open. This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.

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Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at to Let Stadium,

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Speaker 2: an off season episode of Patriots Unfiltered. Uh so, I've

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Speaker 2: got something I want to talk about, Patriots related that

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Speaker 2: we'll get to in a second. But it's seven, it's Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's Deuce, it's me, and we're team Brunt today. Look

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Speaker 2: at us, it looks like we're prisoners. Like we just

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Speaker 2: got out on release, full work, release as new.

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Speaker 4: Alex said, we got wonderful, wonderful stuff from the sponsor yesterday,

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Speaker 4: and I felt like, you know what, I'll be all

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Speaker 4: aware at the thing today, and you guys can.

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Speaker 7: All were today.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I was going first, but then Fred was, and then

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Speaker 4: you were like, well I'm going, and then Evid's like,

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Speaker 4: why can't so here we are?

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Speaker 6: I came down with them and I was like, well, okay,

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Speaker 6: I guess we're wearing them today.

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Speaker 2: We're doing it. We're team Brunt.

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Speaker 3: They're very comfortable. I actually really I want to thank

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Speaker 3: them for the boots as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I even have my boots on. I got my

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Speaker 2: boots on, So thank you Brunch for the gear. And

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Speaker 2: we're happy with well, we're happy to wear anything free

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Speaker 2: that people send us.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the boots are so nice. I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't know if I can. I'm going to really have

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Speaker 4: to suck it up to move my lawn on them.

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Speaker 4: I want to take care of that.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to actually get the other boots

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Speaker 2: from them. You know, traditional work boots. But aren't you

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Speaker 4: Feel bad, like you know, the grass clippings and well,

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Speaker 2: I want to get that's when i's that's why I

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Speaker 2: want to get traditional work boots from them. They have

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Speaker 2: the Marron the style you.

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Speaker 4: Need, like the steel toe, and I don't need steel toe.

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Speaker 7: But do you play use you like when you do work,

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Speaker 7: you put work boots on.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: I have what they call muck boots. They're almost like

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Speaker 2: and they're just waterproof. Yeah, you know for yard work,

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Speaker 2: for yard work really, Yeah, I get down a dirty pole.

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Speaker 7: I have a pair of sneakers that I would never

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Speaker 7: I don't wear anymore.

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Speaker 2: doing a bunch of stuff. Don't don't you get wet?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want sneakers?

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Speaker 7: Why forget?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing?

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Speaker 7: Why am I?

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Speaker 2: Like? So you're not doing stuff but yard work?

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Speaker 7: What are you doing yard work that you're you're soaking wet?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm out there in the rain. Sometimes I'm in

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're not obligated to actually do the yard

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's actually when the ground's moist and loose. It's

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Speaker 2: the best time to weed. You get this stuff right up.

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Speaker 7: You pull those weeds. It's moist and loose.

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, it depends on what you hate. But anyway,

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Speaker 6: all right, I did almost. I was telling you as

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Speaker 6: we were coming back, I almost sent you a photo

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Speaker 6: I was, I like the guy who sent me the

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Speaker 6: offensive Lineman video Paul cutting his grass, always getting the work.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think what you should do with that

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Speaker 2: patch is painted blue. Make it like the Blue Square

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Speaker 2: for those to Kraft would love that. What are you

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Speaker 2: looking at? Bugs? All right? All right? So you know,

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Speaker 2: as you know, I have a long commute and sometimes

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Speaker 2: I often think about, you know, Patriots related stuff, and

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, with the free agents that we brought in,

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Speaker 2: we've We've always said in the past, and it's true.

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Speaker 2: History will bear us out that when you bring in

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Speaker 2: every one of them work out. You know, you're lucky

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Speaker 2: if half of them become regular contributors positively to the team.

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Speaker 2: But I was thinking, you know, in the case where

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Speaker 2: Henry and they're trying to get up to speed with

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Speaker 2: the people. In this case, everybody's on the same page

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Speaker 2: because Rabel's new and it's all the staff is new.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I think that might be an advantage

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Speaker 2: for these free agents, like they don't have to catch up.

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Speaker 2: Everything's being installed with them at the same speed as

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Speaker 3: Some of them were more familiar. Harol Landry is more

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Speaker 2: Yep, a guy like him, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there's probably know Spallane was in Vegas with McDaniels,

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a neutral or is it a negative?

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Speaker 2: Or is it an advantage this year to have everybody

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Speaker 4: I think I got to talk it out a little

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Speaker 4: reason that some of those players didn't work out was

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Speaker 7: That would be my pushback.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I can't argue with anything that Fred said about it

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Speaker 6: I would just say that in my view of free agency,

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Speaker 6: I don't think a lot of people don't work out

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Speaker 6: I think there are probably a variety of reasons. Most

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Speaker 2: Were, or they were available because they're not that good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's just it just I think it's a little more

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Speaker 4: here there's no guarantee that they're gonna pick up what

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Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels is throwing down now. So there's some degree

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Speaker 4: of uncertainty, you know, even with Drake May, what's that

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm really not sure, but I think

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Speaker 5: it's a great point.

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Speaker 7: And system fits. There's a lot of different.

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Speaker 5: Look at that Glass in twenty one that they brought out.

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Speaker 5: You know, Hunter Henry's been solid for them.

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Speaker 4: John Smith didn't work and even coming in you might

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Speaker 7: Would be an example to me of a system fit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because obviously Smith has had some success in the league,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's not like you couldn't play. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a deuce. I think that there's it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: that mean that they're now replaced by guys that they

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Speaker 3: mentioned Harold Landry is probably the biggest one, but like

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Speaker 3: mac Collins was in Vegas with Josh McDaniels and had

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Speaker 3: Jack Gibbons was with Rabel and Tennessee. You know, there

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Speaker 3: that you hopefully avoid a John nu Smith where it's

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Speaker 3: not a system fit, it's not a fit in what

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Speaker 3: they want to do offensively, and then you end up

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Speaker 3: spending a lot of money and it doesn't work out

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Speaker 3: for both sides.

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Speaker 4: I think a clear place where it might be interesting

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Speaker 5: And that's a place where How do they.

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Speaker 2: Want to run the ball?

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Speaker 4: Do they want to be a zone team and get

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Speaker 4: a power team and really focus on the Morgan Moses

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Speaker 5: Probably a combination of both. How does that all come together.

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Speaker 4: I think that position might be a really interesting one

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Speaker 4: to what you're talking about. But I feel somewhat like

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Speaker 4: you're tossing the pieces up in the air, the pieces

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the two thousand team, two thousand and two

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Speaker 6: So there was some veterans that he clearly didn't have

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Speaker 4: Able to totally make a team over in one offseason

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Speaker 2: It's rare, what Bill did you know, especially with a

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Speaker 6: And it's like, you know, to Mike's point, look at

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Speaker 7: But you pivot, you do the best you can.

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Speaker 6: To your point, Mike, you can't just completely remake the

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Speaker 6: We can talk all about schemes, you know, and Evan

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But in my mind, how would Rabel have approached that.

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Speaker 6: Just showed you he didn't get rid of everybody, but

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Speaker 7: Okay, I think it was a misevaluation could be.

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Speaker 6: I have nothing to back that up, yeah, because not

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Speaker 9: Gerrod Mayo was there, and maybe he was friends with

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Speaker 6: He thought that Bill was distracted, and he probably was. Now,

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Speaker 4: No, it was.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were fed that they had this great relationship.

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Speaker 6: Staff in general, I think Evan's point is valid. The

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Speaker 6: staff was not an ideal situation. They probably didn't get

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Speaker 6: some of the guys they wanted. They probably didn't get

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Speaker 6: some of the guys to stay that they wish.

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Speaker 3: Did so if he had kept the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball the same with Steve, and Steve was the

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and he was calling the plays, and that

446
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Speaker 3: whole side of the ball was was the same as

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Speaker 3: it was, and I would just say, also, what the

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Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think where I was coming from with it was

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Speaker 3: like their plan was probably for Bill to set him

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Speaker 3: up a little bit better than he did, right and

453
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Speaker 3: and have to be more of a peaceful transition of

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Speaker 3: power from Bill to Gerrod, so that there wasn't this

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Speaker 3: entire fallout of the coaching staff and everything like that.

456
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Speaker 3: And I think that was such a big part of

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Speaker 3: last year was that it wasn't just that Gerard was

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Speaker 3: a first year head coach. It was that everybody around

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Speaker 3: him was really kind to not fit for their jobs.

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Speaker 3: And so like if you had had Steve at defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: if you had Bill O'Brien, you know, staying or Josh

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Speaker 3: coming back as the offensive coordinator, it wouldn't it have

463
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Speaker 3: been different? Because now I just feel like everything that

464
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Speaker 3: happened last year is completely we throw it out, like

465
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Speaker 3: that whole draft class from last year, you know. Besides

466
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Speaker 3: obviously Drake Mayle, like, are any of those guys guaranteed

467
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Speaker 3: to make the team?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's if there's one thing that Mayo needed,

469
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Speaker 2: it was support, right, and ye had very little well.

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Speaker 6: And one of the things that I've sort of listening

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Speaker 6: to people talk about it, and I think I was

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Speaker 6: guilty of probably underestimating it, but just the importance of

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Speaker 6: the right fits on staffs, and you know, and I

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Speaker 6: told you I think I talked about this late last

475
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Speaker 6: week on a Thursday show because I had talked to

476
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Speaker 6: Mike for the yearbook feature and just about the.

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Speaker 7: Dynamics of putting the staff together and stuff.

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Speaker 6: And I do think finding guys that can work together

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Speaker 6: and put egos aside and sort of all be pulling

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Speaker 6: in the right direction.

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Speaker 7: I think sometimes we underestimate. I mean, I should just

482
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Speaker 7: speak for myself.

483
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Speaker 6: I think I underestimated the damage that can happen with

484
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Speaker 6: division within a coaching staff. And you saw it with

485
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Speaker 6: that year of just utter dysfunction twenty two and twenty three,

486
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Speaker 6: with the defensive guys on offense in twenty two, Clem

487
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Speaker 6: being part time at best as an offensive line coach

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Speaker 6: in twenty three, putting everything on Bill O'Brien's plate to

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Speaker 6: run the entirety of the offense, not just coordinating it,

490
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Speaker 6: but position group wise.

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Speaker 7: David Andrews was a de facto offensive line coach.

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Speaker 3: I'ven really sure Bill O'Brien was Bill's pick anyways, And

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Speaker 3: it just was a.

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Speaker 6: Lot of division, I think within the ranks on those

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Speaker 6: two staffs, and I think they can really undermine what

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Speaker 6: you're doing as a head coach.

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Speaker 4: Yep, when Barth's cheating on you with David Andrews now

498
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Speaker 4: and that his new podcast, you should ask him a lot.

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Speaker 7: That's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like when you look at the setup

502
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Speaker 3: that they have now, they just have so much more

503
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Speaker 3: experience on the coaching staff and everybody has a title

504
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Speaker 3: that they belong in that role, you know, and you

505
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Speaker 3: can see that out at practice, like how much more

506
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Speaker 3: efficient and how much the pace is much faster, And

507
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Speaker 3: it seems like they're much further along from an installation

508
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Speaker 3: point of view as well in terms of the scheme

509
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Speaker 3: from what they were last year, and like to friend's

510
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Speaker 3: point earlier, like they never were in control of it,

511
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Speaker 3: Like they were never ahead of it, they were never

512
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Speaker 3: in control of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were always playing catch up.

514
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Speaker 3: And now we just see this, it's just a start.

515
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Speaker 4: I mean, I still remember that Mac Jones press conference

516
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Speaker 4: from twenty two where I remember that day. I mean,

517
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Speaker 4: David Andrews was front center, he came off, he was pissed. Yeah,

518
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Speaker 4: that was to me the start of what exactly are

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Speaker 4: you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two training camp.

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Speaker 4: We had gone through some practices and over and over

522
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Speaker 4: it seemed like the offense looked pretty clunky, full periods

523
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Speaker 4: where it was just wide zone, right, wide zone, right,

524
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Speaker 4: wide zone.

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Speaker 5: Right, you know, over and over again. And that was

526
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Speaker 5: when the media glombed onto the wide zone.

527
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Speaker 7: What did we do?

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Speaker 5: That was the big storyline.

529
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Speaker 4: But there was one in particular practice where it was like,

530
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Speaker 4: at some point, it's got to get better. Right, having

531
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Speaker 4: watched some training camp practices, I give the offense a

532
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Speaker 4: little lee way early, and it's it's easier to destroy

533
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Speaker 4: than create. The defense is coming ready to go, and

534
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Speaker 4: you know it takes a little while to coordinate an offense,

535
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Speaker 4: but they just couldn't get it going.

536
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Speaker 5: And that was the first time post Josh McDaniels where

537
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Speaker 5: you felt like there.

538
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Speaker 4: Wasn't really a progression like they're not really getting better,

539
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Speaker 4: like how are they going to compete this year?

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Speaker 5: How are they going to score points?

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Speaker 4: And you know, from that year into twenty three and

542
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Speaker 4: then into last year, it was really just a battle

543
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Speaker 4: on offense. And not to say that, I feel like, wow,

544
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Speaker 4: we're watching the seven team out there. Disclaimer, I know people,

545
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Speaker 4: hey when we do that, right, but they they look progressing,

546
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Speaker 4: They look like they had a plan.

547
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Speaker 5: It looked like they had a philosophy.

548
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Speaker 4: And when we're in this section of the field, here's

549
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Speaker 4: something what we want to sprinkle in or you know

550
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Speaker 4: those kind of things. So I feel in after OTAs,

551
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Speaker 4: But you're always cautious because you know how competitive this

552
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Speaker 4: league is and if there are any flaws in your team,

553
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Speaker 4: opponents will find a way to exploit them, or injuries

554
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: will as well.

555
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Speaker 6: Mike always knows that the defense it's easier to destroy

556
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Speaker 6: than create, because you know, he he doesn't remember those

557
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Speaker 6: boring twelve and four teams that dominated every training camp practice.

558
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Speaker 5: Off Seriously, though, was it right from the get go?

559
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Speaker 4: Like it was like they were never every year the

560
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 4: complete straight years, right, that's complete continuity, And we got

561
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Speaker 4: sort of back.

562
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Speaker 2: We got so used to that we're like, oh, this

563
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Speaker 2: is how it's supposed to be.

564
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Speaker 3: Even in nineteen they were eighteen and nineteen when it

565
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Speaker 3: started the offense when declining by their status, it was

566
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Speaker 3: still I still remember being in Detroit and they were

567
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Speaker 3: doing like two minutes towards the end of practice, like

568
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Speaker 3: real competitive stuff, enjoying practices, and Brady was just dicing them.

569
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Speaker 4: Like I saw one camp with Brady. Then I saw

570
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Speaker 4: Cam Newton camp.

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Speaker 7: I Cam, you know, I am Jacobe.

572
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Speaker 5: Last year, the Cam.

573
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Speaker 3: Newton camp had hope at the end though, because they

574
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Speaker 3: started running the quarterback and like they started designing the offense.

575
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Speaker 3: McDaniel started to get in the lab and really design

576
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Speaker 3: it for Cam because they had that Fox quarterback competition

577
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Speaker 3: at the beginning that was never a real competition with

578
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Speaker 3: Stidham and stuff. And then once they started doing some

579
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Speaker 3: of the camera stuff, once they started doing some of

580
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Speaker 3: the cam stuff, it was like, okay, like I could

581
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Speaker 3: see where they're headed with this. Now obviously he fell

582
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Speaker 3: off the rails, but it had hope.

583
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Speaker 2: So, speaking of practice and preparation and the old times

584
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Speaker 2: across my timeline today came a compilation of games with

585
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Speaker 2: names and obviously it's Edelman, but he was interviewing Ernie,

586
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Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, Patricia, and McDaniel separately, and he broke it

587
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Speaker 2: up and goes back and forth between the four of them.

588
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: But if you want to dive deep into X and

589
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Speaker 2: o's and how they practiced and.

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Speaker 7: All that stuff, I've listened to them.

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Speaker 4: It was.

592
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Speaker 2: It was really good. It's about forty five minutes. Total

593
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Speaker 2: good stuff.

594
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Speaker 3: Though David really like although he sits down with some

595
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Speaker 3: of them for like almost two hours and in the

596
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Speaker 3: full episodes, and the McDaniels one is great now in hindsight,

597
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Speaker 3: because he talks a lot about Drake and how he

598
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Speaker 3: would use Drake May and now he's actually coaching Drake May.

599
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Speaker 3: So it's a spoiler, Yeah, right, it is. But it

600
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Speaker 3: is kind of cool to hear him talk about you know,

601
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Speaker 3: he was really big in the podcast at least about

602
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Speaker 3: Drake running and he was like, well, are they going

603
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Speaker 3: to run him?

604
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Speaker 11: More?

605
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Speaker 3: Like you know, I probably would like type of thing.

606
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Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, the attendants perk up there,

607
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Speaker 3: but yeah, they did a lot of All of them

608
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Speaker 3: are great, but I would say Patricia was sneaky good.

609
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Speaker 7: Sneaky good.

610
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was.

611
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Speaker 3: He was really good.

612
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Speaker 2: Tricia is a smart guy. Yeah, he's a smart guy.

613
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Speaker 2: He was put in a bad position, whether he volunteered

614
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: or not. He wasn't supposed to be an offensive coordinator.

615
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Speaker 4: I interviewed him for the four Super Bowl Soundofics.

616
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Speaker 7: He's awesome.

617
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Speaker 4: I mean just great, great story, great storyteller, and it's

618
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Speaker 4: fun to hear these guys finally come out of the woodwork.

619
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Speaker 4: Which as fans that twenty years, you want to know

620
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Speaker 4: what's it like behind the scenes, What kind of game

621
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Speaker 4: planning and stuff like that are you doing?

622
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Speaker 5: So I eat all that stuff up.

623
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Speaker 2: Were you did you see when they were talking about

624
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: rams scene which one this was they were talking, well,

625
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: it was in a couple of them. Ernie he talked

626
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: about it, and I think he might have talked about

627
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: it with Josh too, about how and this goes back

628
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: to the Colts game where the Colts were just ripping

629
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: everybody up down the scene and so Clark so the Patriots.

630
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 2: The Patriots started playing Cover four against that, and then

631
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Speaker 2: Ernie was watching the Manning cast later this is obviously

632
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: after they retired, and whoever was on the screen, Peyton said,

633
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: I hate I hate Cover four. And Ernie was watching

634
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: like that's why we did it.

635
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Speaker 3: I remember that clip. Yeah, that was a good one

636
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: from him, and I think that maybe the I mean,

637
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: I ate up all of it, and especially the Josh

638
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 3: stuff was just awesome. But the Patricia stuff, him talking

639
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: about how he would make his call sheet for a

640
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: game on defense, Yeah, was just so cool, Like, you know,

641
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: to him talking about it and how much he would

642
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: tinker with it, and like he said that he would

643
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: go through like ten different drafts. You know, you just

644
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: constantly up all night tinkering with it and you know,

645
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: different doing different things. But it was really cool to

646
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: hear about like the process of how you know, they

647
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: identify the package the offense is in the the down

648
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: and distance and the situation, and they have the calls

649
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: that they would call in that situation, and it's like

650
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: this whole puzzle is cool.

651
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 5: So chaotic.

652
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 4: That was the biggest thing I took from playing football.

653
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 4: As you watch football growing up, and it seems all

654
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: very paced and all right, it's second and three. Now,

655
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: let's recoup it.

656
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: And when you're in, when you're in it, it's just.

657
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Speaker 2: On the ground, you get up, you're right. It's like

658
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: you barely know the situation, you know. Yeah, And it's

659
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: the same thing for they I know, well.

660
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Speaker 5: I guess you just didn't play hard enough. But you

661
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: know with Matt like you just see with the coaches

662
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Speaker 5: like they need to streamline that process.

663
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Speaker 4: So the chaotic nature of it and the speed and

664
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: the rhythm of the play calling and it's just it.

665
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Speaker 5: I imagine they get out of those games and they're like,

666
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: what just happened?

667
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 6: Well, And that's part of like when you watch how

668
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 6: they build the offense in the summers, and you don't

669
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 6: always know exactly what they're doing, but you see the

670
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 6: groups of plays that they do, it's like, okay, we're

671
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 6: gonna you know, you can tell what they're working on there.

672
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 6: You know, their second in set, you know, second in

673
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 6: whatever five to seven yards, and they have a handful

674
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Speaker 6: of those plays. We're working on second in three here,

675
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 6: because that's a whole different parameter, you know. And then

676
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 6: they're you know, it's not just we're working on first down,

677
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 6: second and third down, it's the down and distance ye

678
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 6: comes into it. And you can see when they're working

679
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 6: on you know sets, you know, they might have eight

680
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: or ten plays they're working on that are just like

681
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 6: second down plays varying distances.

682
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Speaker 2: And Paul, you would have loved the segment with Ernie

683
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: talking about analytics and Ernie was saying, like, listen, I

684
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: use analytics, but it has to make sense because you know,

685
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: like in the NBA they have the three point analytics.

686
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: That's fine if you have guys who can you know,

687
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: shoot three points, But you can't force that if you

688
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: guys can't hit three points, because the analytics are only

689
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: good if they make sense.

690
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: Right, you know, he was, I would say, probably a

691
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: pioneer of football analytics. Now, I don't know if I

692
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: guess he would, would he say it was analytics, I

693
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: don't know, but he placing even things like placing value

694
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: in terms of like grading scales with prospects and stuff

695
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: like that. You know, they they were all, you know,

696
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: the Bills and Ernie like they're all in the parcels

697
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean in Belichick, like they're all at the beginning

698
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: of that. Like there truly were trailblazers of all that

699
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And now all these teams are doing

700
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: things and like a lot of teams still use the

701
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: parcels scale to grade prospects. It's still the same exact

702
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: scale that Bill Parcells had basically came up with in

703
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: the eighties.

704
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

705
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Speaker 4: So it was one thing I told Paul after reading

706
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: the Parcels biography was that a lot of the schematic

707
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: coaching things and decisions that I think Bill gets a

708
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: lot of credit for that, Parcels was kind of the

709
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: trail blazer of, hey, let's change it completely up this week.

710
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 2: We have to if we want to win this game.

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 8: Yea.

712
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Speaker 2: I think I think Bill's secret was his versatility. Bill

713
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: Belichick was his versatility. He took all these things that

714
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Speaker 2: he learned or heard of back with, you know, from

715
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Paul Brown and everything, and mashed it up and became

716
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: this like versatile you know coach or this coach that

717
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: based things on game plan and versatility because he had,

718
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: you know, he was able to draw from all of this,

719
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, and then of course he made his own

720
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: variations on it. But he had this vast encyclopedia in

721
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: his head that he could draw. Like I always said,

722
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: he could be in oc without a play sheet. He

723
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't even need a play sheet. I'll bet if he

724
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Speaker 2: were to be in OC.

725
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Speaker 5: In talking to some of the agent highly question, I

726
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: don't not at his height.

727
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Speaker 7: Only only if he won the game seven three, which

728
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: was his goal.

729
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Speaker 2: I think, if anything, he was versatile and adaptable.

730
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Speaker 4: Like one of the most interesting things to me schematically

731
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: about the Patriots is just that both of their schemes

732
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Speaker 4: that Bill used go back to the seventies.

733
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Speaker 5: And you know, when I was watching the eighty five team.

734
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Speaker 4: You look at this three four defense and it's clearly

735
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: the Fairbanks Bowl of three to four defense. And talking

736
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: to some of the players and they said, Bill Belichick

737
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: was around when we were running that, and he's you know,

738
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: he's all, what's that guy doing here? You know, he's

739
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: here learning That's what That's what Bill did. But interesting,

740
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Speaker 4: I mean, Parcels was here in eighty Like, there's so

741
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: many roots from that team that go back into the seventies.

742
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people don't even really truly really.

743
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Speaker 3: Absolutely was listening to uh Cooper cup was on the

744
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: podcast recently talking about the McVeigh offense and you know

745
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: what makes it so great? And he was talking about

746
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen and about how the

747
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Speaker 3: Patriots defended them basically kind of pioneered a defense and

748
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: it was kind of started with Fangio and actually Matt

749
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: Patricia like during the regular season, but the Page Church

750
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: just did it at an even better level on the

751
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: biggest stage. And then that forced McVeigh to then change

752
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: his offense because they figured out the offense that he

753
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: was running before, so then he had to add things

754
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: to change the offense. But that was always like you

755
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: know friend's point about Bill being so versatile. You know,

756
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: they're them playing man to man against Kansas City for

757
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: four straight quarters in the ANFC Championship Game and then

758
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: completely reinventing themselves in two weeks in the Super Bowl

759
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: to play zone against the Rams and play a totally

760
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: different branded defense won them the Super Bowl. You know,

761
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Speaker 3: their ability to do that was was second to none.

762
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Speaker 3: And you know they they run the six to one

763
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: and you know the quarter stuff and yeah, I mean.

764
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Speaker 7: Great job shot, you know change. I mean it's just unbelievable.

765
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Speaker 2: But like literally.

766
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Speaker 3: McVeigh like went into like a dark place because he

767
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: was like, oh my, like Bill just figured me out

768
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Speaker 3: on and like pants me in the Super Bowl. And

769
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Speaker 3: then they start running you know, more duo and more

770
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Speaker 3: gap skiing because like they're running, you know, the six

771
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Speaker 3: guys across the line of scrimmage, so they're trying to

772
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Speaker 3: get vertical instead of going side to side, and like

773
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Speaker 3: they just had to completely reinvent themselves because Bill basically

774
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Speaker 3: gave the blueprint of like this is how you defend this.

775
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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 4: I just went back to Matt Patricia and I can

777
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Speaker 4: imagine that play call sheet is so finely tuned, and

778
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Speaker 4: you don't want to have to think about like to

779
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: your point, Paulward and second and long like this is

780
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 4: these are the plays and you can't you don't have

781
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Speaker 4: time to think about it. You imagine McVay gets to

782
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 4: a point where he's looking at that play card going,

783
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: uh oh, this stuff I have here does not work,

784
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: you know, and what do you do at that point?

785
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 5: You can see some of the challenge that it presents.

786
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: Mark and Chatta says Fred. When you mentioned Patricia earlier

787
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: on the Edelman podcast, you mentioned he was really smart. However,

788
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: you forgot to say that we need to thank him. Please,

789
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: can you do the obligatory Patriots Nation, thank you Matt Patricia.

790
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: This night is true, that's true. Thank you. Matt Patricia

791
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Speaker 2: disrespected him.

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Speaker 4: You know, just thinking about it a little bit, like

793
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Speaker 4: do you put it a little bit on Sean McVeigh

794
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: for not being ready for that. I mean team that

795
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: has been in the Super Bowl the famously in thirty nine,

796
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 4: they come out in a four three this.

797
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: Especially know your opponent, you know, Bill Belichick is gonna you.

798
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Speaker 6: Know, taking Bill into consideration, which the points that you

799
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 6: guys made is one thousand percent right because Bill is

800
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Speaker 6: known for his versatility and.

801
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Speaker 7: Especially in a Super Bowl.

802
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Speaker 6: You know, but what kind of offense doesn't have a

803
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 6: like I play I can only it only works if

804
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 6: I know what they're going to be running.

805
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 7: Well, yes, a lot of that goes on McVeigh.

806
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: A lot of it though is you know, they they

807
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: turned the game into a drop back pass game, and

808
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: Jared Goff just wasn't ready for the for the bright light.

809
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 7: It's like, you know at the time, you.

810
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Know, I think Jared Goff now probably would handle it

811
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: better now that he's more experienced. But same with McVeigh.

812
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 3: Like McVeagh was a really young coach in that Super

813
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: Bowl and he went up against Yoda and he just

814
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 3: got dominated.

815
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Speaker 6: And all that I would say is again a thousand

816
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 6: percent accurate in Belichick absolutely pants him.

817
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 7: Okay, can I go to my my dark negative side.

818
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Sure, of course, that's why you hit.

819
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 6: Which people you know in front of I mean, you know,

820
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: there's a big, big pieces of that offense that didn't play.

821
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 7: That's true, like Todd Gurley.

822
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: Todd Gurley didn't play, Cooper Cup didn't play.

823
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 6: There was a big part of what McVeigh had in

824
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 6: his holster that he had.

825
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: To play without. With Bobby Freeze out, Belichick would have

826
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 7: been able to deal with that.

827
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 6: You know, So I'll talk out of both sides of

828
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 6: my mouth. I'm gonna I'm gonna give mcveay a little

829
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 6: bit of slack, sure, but Belichick would have handled it.

830
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 6: Belichick was without key pieces and a lot of different

831
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 6: big games over the years and was able to adapt

832
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 6: and figure out ways McVeigh didn't. And I do think

833
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 6: that's largely on McVeigh because you should have known that

834
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: Belichick wasn't just going to do one thing right right.

835
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Speaker 4: If I was a coach or a scout in that system,

836
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: like you would think someone would have just said, hey,

837
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: is there a chance that they come out and do

838
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: something totally different, because that's we have a.

839
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: Huge sample size.

840
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: These guys at that point would have gone to like

841
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: eight super Bowls, Like, there's a good chance they're going

842
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: to come out with a total curveball that we have

843
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: to be ready.

844
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: To handle on.

845
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Speaker 4: And maybe they were to some extent because I think

846
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: that ran offense it's predicated on staying on time and

847
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: you know, executing wide zone and then we play the

848
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: play action.

849
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a whole.

850
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: Progression to what that offense wants to do. So I

851
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: just would think they'd be a.

852
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 6: Little bits Evans Point Golf wasn't ready.

853
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they changed their offense a lot. You know,

854
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: they Stafford is obviously a different kind of quarterback, but

855
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: they are much more gap, you know, vertical run game. Now,

856
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: they play a lot more empty out of the shotgun,

857
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: and they don't use as much wide zone play action.

858
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: They still have that, but they don't use it as much.

859
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: But you know, because I have to defend my guy,

860
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: I or one of my guys. I think I don't

861
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: know how you could have predicted that they were going

862
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: to play a six to one, Like, I just don't

863
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: like that. That's not a regular front that you see

864
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: very often. It was a really unique thing. The Patriots

865
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: at the time are really uniquely equipped to play it.

866
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: Because of high tower, like in his versatility allowed them

867
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: to do it. So as much as I like the

868
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: zone stuff, maybe like they probably could have had an

869
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: idea that that was. But to come out in a

870
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: six to one tilt in the Super Bowl and you've

871
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: never done it before is like that's kind of like

872
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: all right, you know, but it would have been on

873
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: my mind though I halftime maybe like you know, call

874
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: power once.

875
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 5: You know, like but yeah, I don't know if you

876
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: would have landed on that.

877
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: But if I was going against that coach, even knowing

878
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: what I know is just a guy following the team,

879
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: it's like, be ready because there could be a crazy

880
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 4: curveball coming at you, you know, right to start this game.

881
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: I can just see Evan he's watching the Super Bowl

882
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: and he's got his jersey mics and he's like half

883
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: fights like they're running a six to one.

884
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 8: It was.

885
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: It was quite possibly one of the best Super Bowl

886
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: game plans of all time. And that is not hyperbally.

887
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: How did you feel that when you when you were

888
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: watching that happen live, Like, did you think that you did?

889
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 10: You just block of, Yeah, the impact was going to

890
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 10: be a little bit and I think the bigger thing

891
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 10: that I that I clocked in the moment was the quarters,

892
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 10: Like they were playing quarters, they're playing cover four and

893
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 10: they were buzzing, so they were rotating the guy into

894
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 10: cover three and they were kind of playing with Goff.

895
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: And McVeigh would communicate with Golf in the headset until

896
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: they shut the headset off, and he would actually like

897
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: play quarterback for Golf and you would say, they're in this,

898
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: they're in that, and then the Patriots.

899
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 7: Would change the picture on him. You figured out, yeah,

900
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 7: the next time and now you change it.

901
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: Now you figure it out. And just watching you know,

902
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: mccordy especially and Chung just like play the mind games

903
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: with Jared. Goff's head was in a pretzel, like you

904
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: know what, no idea it was, you know, would have.

905
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: Been fascinating is both at their heights of their powers.

906
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: To have Belichick coach against Brady, Like how would he

907
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: try to confuse Brady, you know, other than like rush

908
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: up the middle and that was kind of that was

909
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: kind of just kryptonite. But I'm just talking about scheme one,

910
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, twenty one.

911
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have to go back, and you know,

912
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: I obviously wrote about the game, but I don't remember

913
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: exactly what they did. If I want, I want to

914
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: say they played a lot of I want to say that,

915
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: well it was raining. I want to say they played

916
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: a lot of double Robber, which is, you know something

917
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: they did lot more later on in Bill's career. So

918
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: drop eight double Robbert, So like two robbers sitting at

919
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: the sticks. Because Brady, they knew what was gonna love

920
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: throwing in cuts, you know, crossers, slants like things like that.

921
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: That was Brady after one year with a new team

922
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: and a new offensive corner. I'm talking about Brady having

923
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: had the same offense in the same offense for a

924
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: long time in Belichick at the height of it, Like,

925
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: how would that battle, you know, turn out? I think

926
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: that would have been cool. Eight five five past five

927
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot Com. Is

928
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: the email We're getting a lot of emails. Of course,

929
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: we'll get to those phones are stacked up. We'll go

930
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: with Anthony in Seattle. What's up, Anthony? How those Red Sox?

931
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Speaker 4: Hey?

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00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 7: What's up?

933
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 12: Brand?

934
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: What good?

935
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 13: Hey?

936
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 12: Soh Yeah, I had to call it in today. You

937
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 12: got got I love the.

938
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 11: The off season topics, and so I got a couple

939
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 11: of them that you guys talked a little bit about

940
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 11: people saying uh of course instead of you're welcome, and

941
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 11: a couple more things. So I got two of them

942
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 11: and then I'll get off the I'll get off the phone.

943
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 11: But uh, the first one is this one bothered me

944
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 11: for a few years, is people that's saying sorry instead

945
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 11: of excuse me. Like it's one of those things like

946
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 11: I just it doesn't bother me as much these days,

947
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 11: but I always hear It's like you're you.

948
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 12: Go across paths with somebody in the hallway and you know,

949
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 12: you stop, you smile, and they've walked past you, and

950
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 12: they just say sorry, and it's like, why why do

951
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 12: you apologizing to me? I don't want to apology, just okay.

952
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 14: Say excuse me.

953
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 12: And it makes me almost like feel bad, like like

954
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 12: like how dare you walk past me? So that's one

955
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 12: and the other one is, uh, this one.

956
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 8: I actually just dealt with yesterday.

957
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 12: It's crosswalks.

958
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 8: It's crosswalks in general.

959
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 12: But when you get when you get to a crosswalk

960
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 12: and you stop, you see the pedestrians, so you stop

961
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 12: and to let them go. Now normally they just go,

962
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 12: but every once in a while, you get the one

963
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 12: who he's gonna wave you on. For some reason, he's

964
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 12: not ready to cross yet, maybe you're maybe there's no

965
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 12: car behind you, so he's like, I'll just let you

966
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 12: clear and then.

967
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 8: I'll walk whatever.

968
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 12: That's fine. I normally I prefer you just go, but okay,

969
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 12: you're waving me, I'll just go. What I hate is

970
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 12: when you stop for the guy to let him go.

971
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 12: He waves me on and lets me go. So I

972
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 12: decided to go. And as I'm passing, you're gonna step

973
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 12: off the curb and into the street like you're gonna

974
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 12: be mister cool. You're gonna cross behind my truck. And

975
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 12: by the way, I drive a commercial truck for for

976
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 12: a living, so it's all about safety for me. You're

977
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 12: gonna frost behind my truck, like within inches. We may

978
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 12: think you could reach out and tap the back of

979
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 12: my truck, but I don't want my moving vehicle within

980
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 12: inches of you. That's why I told you to go.

981
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: If you were gonna not wait, you could have just

982
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: went fair enough, get off the box.

983
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 12: Any cross walks when everybody stopped at the cross walk

984
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 12: on one side of the street and the guy on

985
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 12: the other side of the street keeps blowing through it

986
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 12: so nobody can go.

987
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 7: Because people walk.

988
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good one.

989
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 6: That's a good love the amount of thought that went

990
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: into that. Anthey, that's a good one.

991
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: You can tell he drives a truck for a living

992
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: now because he's kind of traffic I.

993
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 6: Also love the way he's recounting the story. It really

994
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: it really bothers me and they, you know, and I

995
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 6: drive it.

996
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 7: You know, I drive a commercial truck. Bly like he

997
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 7: gets all like normal, just to explain I drive a

998
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 7: commercial truck.

999
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 6: B And then he goes, hey, man, you're gonna get

1000
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 6: that close to my truck, like get clearly really bothers him.

1001
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: I love it.

1002
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: I don't blame him. I love that. Oh of course,

1003
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: Well I saw somebody today.

1004
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Of course.

1005
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm going up four ninety five and uh this, you know,

1006
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: uh go four ninety five north and I'm getting up

1007
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: to where the ninety five exits are, so you know,

1008
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: people are starting to merge. Right, this guy's all the

1009
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: way in the left. He merges right in front of

1010
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: a huge truck, like I mean, like a foot in

1011
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: front of him. I'm like, you, imbecile, Like you think

1012
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: these trucks could stop on a dime like a normal

1013
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: car can like wait, wait until he's by you and

1014
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: merge in front of it, like a normal car that

1015
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: has a chance of stopping. Like so this, you know,

1016
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: the truck driver obviously hit his horn.

1017
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 5: Just just ridiculous when I see that kind of driving.

1018
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: Always wondering those the people that are dying in car

1019
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: crashes every day, like the people that cause it, or

1020
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: just even like ninety five.

1021
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 5: From Providence to Boston is a dragstrip.

1022
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: I mean there are people Rhode Island plates no offense,

1023
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: matt flying off like you know, weaving through and Rhode

1024
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: Island people are.

1025
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: The worst drivers, they really are, and it's because the

1026
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: state's so small. They don't get enough.

1027
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 7: You're literally called you just.

1028
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Walked on my joke. Get out of here. He stepped

1029
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: on my joke. Anyway, all right, Nathan, should I set

1030
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: you up so you can do it again? That's all right,

1031
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Nathan's gone, Nathan, Connecticut. What's up Nate?

1032
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 15: Guys? So I just have a couple of quick things,

1033
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 15: Well maybe I should say quick.

1034
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 7: I hope it's going to be quick.

1035
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 15: My first thing is this is a reoccurring topic, but

1036
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 15: the walkout song in my opinion, and the Crazy Train

1037
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 15: is perfect there, there doesn't need to be anything else,

1038
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 15: perfect delated.

1039
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 11: I was at the Next News.

1040
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 15: Game where Drake Nate as first ever actual start. That

1041
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 15: stuff like fired me up just to see some good football,

1042
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 15: and I did. I did see good football.

1043
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 7: Sorry, sorry we disappointed you.

1044
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how old are you, Nate, Nate, how old

1045
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: are you? You're fourteen?

1046
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 7: Just harm like middle school.

1047
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Like, it's surprising to me that at fourteen you're you're

1048
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: cool with sticking with what they're doing. So that's interesting.

1049
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, I like very like, I like verys like classic

1050
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 15: rock music.

1051
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 7: But I think crazy trains a good walkout.

1052
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's a great walkout.

1053
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: So it was. I think I think it's time for change,

1054
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: though I do.

1055
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 7: I mean, I think you should be exploring all our.

1056
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 8: I'm going to disagree because okay, well, I like it

1057
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 8: the way it is.

1058
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 15: It gives me for the kind of buzz and I

1059
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 15: like away. I like the way from it goes from

1060
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 15: over you.

1061
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 8: It's a crazy training.

1062
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 15: It's a good transition.

1063
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: I like, Nate.

1064
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's goods an old soul, so so you're a

1065
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: traditional and because that was so good, you have you

1066
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: wanted to say one other thing?

1067
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 7: Or is that it's a tough phone. So should I

1068
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 7: got a flip phone.

1069
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 15: Or joint practice this year because I went to a

1070
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 15: joint practice of the people all last year.

1071
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Sorry again, Yeah, a lot of bad. The joint practice

1072
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: is during training camp, so you can best of both worlds.

1073
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: Go go to the joint practice. Your phone stinks, Thanks, Nate,

1074
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: You're great. Yeah, Nate's an old soul. He's got a

1075
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: flip phone.

1076
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 7: As Paul said, Yeah, the phone was that was tough phone.

1077
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patty's in Agam. What's up Patty?

1078
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 13: Hey, good afternoon.

1079
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: Everyone, Hey, better phone, Good afternoon.

1080
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 13: So a little caller on Color Prime and all end

1081
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 13: with a question. I gotta I'm not doing this because

1082
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 13: he's the league target, but I got a call out

1083
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 13: Christian at La. He had said before a couple of

1084
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 13: times that he's been a fan since nineteen seventy eight, right,

1085
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 13: And he also said last week that his thirtieth high

1086
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 13: school reunion was coming up and he was skipping out

1087
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 13: on it. Now me, I graduated. My thirtieth reunion was

1088
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 13: last year, and I became a fan of nineteen eighty

1089
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 13: five at the age of nine years old, So unless

1090
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 13: like unless he graduated like at twenty seven or twenty eight,

1091
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 13: which is possible. I'm just saying the mass doesn't add up. Christian,

1092
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 13: I'm pom focused on it, okay. And my question is,

1093
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 13: do you guys think I have this thought that possibly

1094
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 13: I thought before like the OTAs and training camp started

1095
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 13: or the mini camp started, that Cole's strange might be

1096
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 13: on the outside looking in because of his injury history

1097
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Speaker 13: and inconsistency. But I really think that he possibly has

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Speaker 13: the inside track and the left guard spot, and I

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Speaker 13: think he is going to get a roster spots just

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Speaker 13: because he does have the versatility to play center. And

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Speaker 13: I know you guys were talking about, you know, him

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Speaker 13: playing both guard spots at the Okas, and I just

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Speaker 13: wanted to get on that.

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Speaker 8: I'll take it off there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think he does have an inside

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Speaker 2: track at left guy.

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Speaker 3: It might be by default, but there's really not right now.

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Speaker 3: It's his job to lose. That's how I inside track

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00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: has dropped to lose. Kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yep, okay, I might have flipped Layton Robinson

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Speaker 4: and him going in.

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Speaker 6: I've just seen a lot of guys I haven't seen it,

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00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 6: just well Tyresse Robinson's yeah right, he got a so.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know what they think.

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Speaker 6: I think this is probably just thrown a lot of

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Speaker 6: bodies out there and seen as many combinations as they can,

1117
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 6: which I think makes some sense, but it's not I

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 6: don't know if I would be able to identify a

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00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 6: guy who I thought had the inside track based on

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Speaker 6: what I saw in the spring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Mini camp. It was definitely a lot

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00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: of cold, strange, but Wes Schweitzer was had his situation,

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00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: tyros Robinson had his situation, So would that have been

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Speaker 3: different And if one of those guys was participating maybe,

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Speaker 3: But I'd say saying he has the inside track is

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: probably a fair way to put it. But again, it's

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00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: not a the worst position to have a problem at.

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Speaker 3: Out of all the positions. It's better, you know, left

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Speaker 3: guard is at least somewhat tolerable. But so one spot

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Speaker 3: where I'm like, I'm not one hundred percent sure they

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Speaker 3: have a true NFL starter at that spot.

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Speaker 6: I would say that if they think he's going to

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Speaker 6: be the starter, then there's value there. Obviously, I'm not

1134
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 6: sure how much his ability to play a little center,

1135
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 6: which by the way, did not go well this spring.

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Speaker 6: The snaps were an issue when he was snapping the

1137
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 6: ball in the spring. That was early in OTAs. But

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Speaker 6: now they you know, they drafted a center. I think

1139
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 6: they have other options at center. If I would, I

1140
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 6: would doubt that the deciding factor is going to that's

1141
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 6: going to play in his favor. And now if they

1142
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: get to an active situation in a game, and maybe

1143
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 6: you know, Jared Wilson isn't active for a game and

1144
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 6: Cole Strange is playing left guard and Derek Bradbury goes down,

1145
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 6: maybe you have City Sow or Tyree's somebody to play guard,

1146
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 6: but you don't have anybody to play center. Maybe Strange

1147
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: moves over on a pinch, but I'm not necessarily sure

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00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: that's worth The rosters.

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Speaker 4: Think Jared Wilson is a big X factor. He's been

1150
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: rehabbing and getting back into shape. But he could be

1151
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: in the mix there as well. And I think he

1152
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: could be in the mix of center too.

1153
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that. And you know, they'd also gave

1154
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: some opportunities to Kayden Wallace to play guard in the spring,

1155
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: and that was something that a lot of people thought

1156
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: maybe going into the draft that he was eventually going

1157
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: to be a long term guard in the NFL. So

1158
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: maybe between those two guys, like I think there might

1159
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: be a little bit more upside. You kind of know

1160
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: what you have with Cole Strange, but maybe one of

1161
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: those younger players has got a little bit more.

1162
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Speaker 2: Mike, and Braintree has a problem with the last caller.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Mike, Hey, guys, big fan of the show.

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Speaker 16: I love your take on everything, but I got a

1165
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 16: real problem with that guy that was saying that he

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Speaker 16: lets people go in traffic like pedestrians. Okay, he doesn't

1167
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Speaker 16: understand is that I'm a pedestrian.

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Speaker 8: I'm on the point.

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Speaker 16: I'm letting you go because God forbids a gatorade bottom

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Speaker 16: or something rolls underneath your brake pedal. I'm doomed if

1171
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Speaker 16: I go in front of you. I'm I think that

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Speaker 16: should be my call to make. I think it's okay

1173
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Speaker 16: to let you go. I'm not powery anyway.

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Speaker 2: No, he was cool with that. He just he was

1175
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Speaker 2: okay with you letting him go. He just doesn't like it.

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Speaker 2: After you let him go, then you immediately walk into

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Speaker 2: traffic right behind him. He doesn't like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure why.

1179
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 16: Timing after time the issue with the traffic. Maybe I

1180
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 16: see it coming. I know how I can get through

1181
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 16: this safely without causing anyone to even hitch their brake pedal.

1182
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Speaker 16: I just think that should be the pedestrians call it

1183
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 16: got me a little round up calling you guys.

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Speaker 17: All right, I like it, Mike, allbuttal as well, Okay,

1185
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Speaker 17: and I will say that that situation, there's the pedestrian

1186
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 17: cars and they're letting you go, but like I don't

1187
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 17: want to rush across the street.

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Speaker 7: Just go, just go want I want to, you know,

1189
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Speaker 7: walk in my face. I'm you know, I'm with him.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little late, I've done that.

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Speaker 7: Sure, you just go ahead.

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Speaker 5: It is funny though, the communication.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing as like when you pass someone

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Speaker 4: in the hallway or someone's holding the door, that like

1195
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Speaker 4: moment of like I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, Like

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Speaker 4: you know, you don't want them to get mad at you,

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Speaker 4: but you're trying to like communicate, and.

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Speaker 6: I don't, like, I don't want to rush across because

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Speaker 6: now I'm taking up your time. So I feel, you know,

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Speaker 3: We have mixed signals and you think you're going and

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Speaker 19: Let's get into it all right. Tom Brady statue opening traditions.

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Speaker 19: I love the idea of the Tom Brady statue, but

1257
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Speaker 19: aside from the ringing of the lighthouse, we need to

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00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 19: have more home game opening traditions. Maybe the players touching

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Speaker 19: a gold statue of Pat the Patriot or Billy Sullivan.

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Speaker 2: And walking out of the tunnel. Matthew from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the the lighthouse. It's its own,

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Speaker 1: like niche thing.

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Speaker 20: I mean, Julett is known for the lighthouse, and I

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Speaker 20: think the bell kind of gives it a good vibe,

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Speaker 20: a good atmosphere.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I thought it was coulda be a bigger bell.

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Speaker 19: Maybe I would have liked like the horn, you know,

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Speaker 19: maybe the crank horn.

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Speaker 1: You don't need a horn, right though, what I was

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Speaker 1: like a fog horn.

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Speaker 19: What I do wish they did is I wish they

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Speaker 19: did a new England style lighthouse, red and white like

1273
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 19: made it look like an actual lighthouse.

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Speaker 2: And also the renderings they may it looked a little bigger.

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: I mean it is big.

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Speaker 1: Although you hate heights when you go up, they keep

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Speaker 1: sending me up there. I mean it's still big.

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Speaker 2: But I like the bell. It's just listen. Winning solves everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've I.

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Speaker 1: Think there's definitely more energy with a win, and I

1281
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: think that would also entail. Like the bell.

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Speaker 19: We need to we need to get some of the

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Speaker 19: big dogs back. We had Tom, we had von Jovi

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Speaker 19: ringing the bell, but we need Where's big Poppy, Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 19: let's get everybody all right. Thanks Matthew from Arizona walking music.

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Speaker 19: Just another suggestion, JT. Money high low would be good.

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Speaker 2: You weren't here. I was with Alex. I said, let's

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Speaker 2: get some Lincoln Park in the mix.

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Speaker 1: A little new divide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, numb slash encore.

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Speaker 1: Till the end or in the end, in the end,

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Speaker 1: in the end. That's on me.

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Speaker 19: Sorryret here, Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm like in trouble

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Speaker 19: for this one. Papa bona dude made to make a

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Speaker 19: guest feel at ease comfortable. They tell people, hey, come on,

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Speaker 19: come on in and sit down. Papa, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 19: say it again, so relax it away and make yourself

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Speaker 19: a home.

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Speaker 2: No pressure.

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Speaker 19: So I assume that's something in relation to the show

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Speaker 19: that was from Dinner Plates. You know, I guess Fredie

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Speaker 19: he kind of rushes out some of the guests and stuff.

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Speaker 19: So he comes sit down, spot one, sit your touchdown, relaxing.

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 1: What else we got?

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Speaker 2: Who's a long one? High school dating? And Tom Brady?

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Speaker 19: Good APU crew, Your reflections on your high school years

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Speaker 19: were very illuminating. Fred apparently dated then dumped dancing a

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Speaker 19: lane from Seinfeld. Duce could have dated Willy Wonka's daughter

1310
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 19: but didn't. Matt mentioned he got dragged from school by

1311
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 19: his mom or dragged from school by his mom, but

1312
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 19: didn't say what the incident was. Given Matt's chosen career

1313
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 19: and the Marines, did it involve certain skills for that

1314
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 19: future service man.

1315
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll let you answer that one.

1316
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 19: Regarding the call about Brady not being Brady until three

1317
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 19: or four years into his career, I always thought Brady's

1318
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 19: big leap in new offensive juggernaut more to do a

1319
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 19: change in philosophy rather than Brady's individual development.

1320
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: Brady led the league in tds in.

1321
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 19: His second season, so it's not like lacked the talent

1322
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 19: to be an offensive leader. My impression was at Belichick

1323
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 19: wanted more of a conservative, conservative, low risk offense, strap

1324
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 19: the opponent down with defense, don't turn the ball over.

1325
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 19: When Poleon had changes made in that lead in the

1326
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 19: league that favored the offense in general, and the Patriots

1327
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 19: just missed making Super Bowl forty one with an offense

1328
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 19: that featured Vershee caledwell. The philosophy switch and the offense

1329
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 19: opened up with the additions prior to two thousand and seven.

1330
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: What say you, cheers Dan in Virginia in Michigan.

1331
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, you can talk about your high

1332
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: school dating life.

1333
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 16: I was it.

1334
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: It was decent.

1335
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah was there right?

1336
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I dabble boarding school, you know. Now, Yeah, sneak

1337
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: into the dorms and.

1338
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: You get to Brady.

1339
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 20: Yeah, the stuff, Yeah, the more importance of his Brady,

1340
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 20: I would definitely say he I think Belichick wanted to

1341
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 20: morph him into something that you can become a game general,

1342
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 20: and I think you had to kind of start small

1343
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 20: with him to then get bigger. And I think that's

1344
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 20: how it works with a lot of a lot of

1345
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 20: these quarterbacks in the league nowadays, especially, And I'm curious

1346
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 20: kind of how.

1347
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: McDaniels will do that with Drake.

1348
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 3: Drake.

1349
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, he's gonna incorporate it with Drake because obviously every

1350
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 20: quarterback is different. Every quarterback has different skill sets. And

1351
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 20: I mean we know Brady is a pocket presence and

1352
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 20: kind of having a lot of composure when he's under pressure.

1353
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 20: So you know, I'm curious what Drake he's gonna end

1354
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 20: up doing this year. I think I do think I

1355
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 20: agree with that Brady take a lot.

1356
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 19: I mean the first year, I mean, the defense was

1357
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 19: so good, so wow, would you not. I mean we

1358
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 19: always show the highlight of Brady's first start, It was

1359
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 19: all the defense.

1360
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 2: He just yes, that's not turned the ball over. Yeah,

1361
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: tell you what you do.

1362
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 19: But I mean, for me, because I was, like, you know,

1363
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 19: growing up during that time, it was really like three

1364
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 19: oh four where you're like he's him.

1365
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you got the whole second half of his career.

1366
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: He also just had the swagger at that point too.

1367
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1368
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: YouTube super Bowls under your belt and you're like, I'm

1369
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: already I mean.

1370
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Growing up going into Sundays. I was like, oh, that's

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: a win. Yeah, that's a win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1373
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: But Chris, there's a good little show right here. Yeah, shuys.

1374
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Speaker 19: Once again, if your email doesn't get read on the

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00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 19: show's end to the podcast at Patriots dot com, we'll

1376
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 19: read it here.

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Speaker 2: On p U Extra. Let's get back to Patritsonnfield.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: History. I was told that I said carry on wrong.

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01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: I said carry on. It's carry on, one word, like

1381
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: like like the bag. It's a carry on, carry on, cape,

1382
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: calm and carry on. It's the answer to the read

1383
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: before we get in trouble. Okay, only liquids allowed, blood,

1384
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: sweat and tears. Catch carry on December thirteenth, only on Netflix.

1385
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 7: Okay, you know these things intrigued me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 6: So a carry on that you would carry on to

1388
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 6: an airplane is pronounced differently than carry on.

1389
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, carry on, So by carry Paul, I don't see

1390
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 7: carry on, I carry on my going to bring your

1391
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 7: carry on.

1392
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: I feel like I carry on.

1393
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm saying.

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: You just said was wrong. But Paul, you just said

1395
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: that's not You didn't use it as a now use

1396
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: it as a verb. You said, I carry on my bag.

1397
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: That's not what it is.

1398
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 7: It's a carry on, my bag. It's my carry on.

1399
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 7: It's not my carry on. It's it's my carry on,

1400
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 7: my carry on bag, my carry on bag.

1401
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but when you say, but when you say

1402
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: carry on, I'm not changing carry on, carry on, carry on,

1403
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: carry on the conversation.

1404
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 7: It's my carry on back. It's I'm saying it the

1405
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 7: exact putting.

1406
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 12: The carrier, the on, carry on.

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: It's different. Larry listen, carry listen, carry on. Carry You

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01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: put the emphasis on on when it's a verb on,

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: okay on.

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 7: I don't, but you do.

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: You just don't.

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: You want to admit it, but you do.

1413
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 7: I'm you're just being stubborn the whole thing. Get that

1414
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 7: hood I mean you've got that hood shirt.

1415
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 6: And that's why it's getting being stubborn, That's why it's

1416
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 6: getting under your skin.

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: That's another great moment. From all right back here and

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered an one?

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 7: You won?

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 13: That's it?

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good one.

1422
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 7: You were right? What was I there's a there's a

1423
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 7: slight difference.

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: How do you emphasize carry on and carry on the

1425
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: biggest thing? Yeah, the biggest one.

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01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 6: Sometimes when I hear them back, I'm like, that was

1427
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 6: a ridiculous semantics argument in friend was right?

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: Eight five past five hundred is the is the hotline

1429
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: podcast at patriots dot com? Is the email address you

1430
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 2: want to subscribe to the newsletter? Do it by going

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01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: to Patriots dot com slash pu newsletter Connor and gainstt

1432
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: slash Barnstables certainly did. He said he's on the cave

1433
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: for Father's Day, going to the high ENDUS car show. Nice, oh,

1434
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: happened to be in Sandwich. Ended up going to Treehouse Brewing,

1435
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: which was amazing. Then followed that up by taking Fred's

1436
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: recommendation from the newsletter and went to Seafood Sam's and

1437
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: got the fried chicken. Everyone else got seafood and gave

1438
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: me a hard time. I told him I'm following Fred

1439
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: Kersh's orders. We then proceeded onto the Shipwreck for ice cream.

1440
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Speaker 7: Did you then get a speed Queen Washington.

1441
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Speaker 2: PS. Paul, you are the man. So my question is, well, Connor,

1442
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Speaker 2: you didn't give me.

1443
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 6: The review on the on the show, what would I

1444
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 6: figure you had a term for what the chick and

1445
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 6: would do for you?

1446
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: It was decaded, decadent.

1447
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: It was decaded.

1448
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, like after you eat it's like super fried. Did

1449
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 5: I just eat that sandwich?

1450
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean it's real fried chicken.

1451
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 7: I don't know a srandwich.

1452
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: No, it's off the bone. It's legit a sandwich thing

1453
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: for you young kids, fried chicken, eat it with your hands.

1454
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: You're not at the bone. Sandwiches, what do you do?

1455
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: How do you eat sandwiching? Now with a chicken sandwich?

1456
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 7: What's wrong with a sandwich?

1457
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 6: I agreed, chicken sandwiches have gotten out of control, But

1458
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 6: what is wrong with the sandwich in general?

1459
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: Nothing's wrong with.

1460
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: Well apparently only as kids eat the snow.

1461
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: But when I say, when I say it's fried chicken,

1462
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: that's not a sandwich. It's chicken off the bone.

1463
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: But you said you eat it with your hands. But

1464
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: how do you eat a sandwich?

1465
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Eat it with your hands? So it's not it could

1466
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: be a fried chicken sandwich. I admit, but when something

1467
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about fried chicken, I'm talking about real

1468
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: fried chicken.

1469
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 7: Fair enough my position kind of.

1470
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 6: They can you got that right, but there are I

1471
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 6: think that the the advent of the fast food chicken

1472
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 6: sandwich place like this, seventy five different versions.

1473
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: Now now, yeah, like everybody had to happen, you know,

1474
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 5: Chick fil A, we.

1475
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 7: Just need to chick can't.

1476
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: Like you know, I think this all started because we

1477
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: all decided at some point that red meat was the devil. So, like,

1478
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: I don't know who you people are eating a lot

1479
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: of red meat.

1480
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Is not eat anything that bleeds the blood at one time.

1481
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: That's not It's not the best for you. So everybody

1482
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: started pivoting from burgers to chicken fried chicken because it's healthier.

1483
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: And then now we have everybody has chicken.

1484
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 7: Fried chicken because it's healthier. I didn't say that.

1485
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: I just said that was well, the people that get

1486
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: fried chicken and they peel off the skin, It's like,

1487
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: oh boy, what do you think just get the best

1488
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: part is the skin.

1489
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 4: I got to get back to Blondiees. We went there

1490
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 4: that the new Barba you did?

1491
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah that, Sorry, I thought I told you.

1492
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 5: I thought I thought I mentioned it.

1493
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: No, you real.

1494
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: We kind of under ordered though.

1495
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: The kids, the kids that never have barbecue before. And

1496
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 4: I have a kids who are fifteen.

1497
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: And so this is a new place down the streets,

1498
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: right down the street on one.

1499
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: What kind of culture, dad, are you?

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 8: No?

1501
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 4: I know, well, I mean not a great one because

1502
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: they don't eat anything other than like that's but we

1503
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 4: got had a brisket toast because kids inhaled the brisket

1504
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 4: and they were like, we're going to go back up

1505
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: and or they have ribs.

1506
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 7: They got ribs.

1507
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 4: But we just we started light, you know, we were like,

1508
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: let's just get you know, a couple of orders of brisket,

1509
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: see how it goes.

1510
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 7: And it was mad at them for not getting ribs.

1511
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah that's now and now I gotta get back.

1512
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm a brisket guy.

1513
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 5: Thought they'd be intimidating bones.

1514
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: Well, there's a difference between barbecue brisket and then Jewish brisket.

1515
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: Two different things, really, yeah, but both good.

1516
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to mess up with brisket. Yeah, well, corny,

1517
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: so the place is good, two thumbs up. We might

1518
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: have to So this is the old red wing the

1519
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 4: old Red Wing might have to order the counter.

1520
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: And are they like smoking the ribs behind it right

1521
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: out there?

1522
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 5: It Every morning when I.

1523
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: Drive, I gotta try to go over there for a

1524
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: long one.

1525
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we could do that.

1526
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 7: We might have to work on Wednesday.

1527
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes when you have a light afternoon because the

1528
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Speaker 2: last thing you want to barbecue, and then you're in

1529
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 2: your meeting, it's like, well, let's go over the fourth

1530
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, right end the show. Early Attention team, Attention team.

1531
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: The fourth of July is just around the corner, and

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01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: you can stock up on everything you need to host

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Speaker 2: a winning weekend. Get together at Bob's Discount Furniture. Join

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Speaker 2: Bob's for the fourth celebration and shop every all the

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: mustabs for every room, like feature packed sectionals perfect for

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Speaker 2: hosting party, ready dining sets and consumer reports recommended mattresses

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Speaker 2: at unbelievable values. Queue the fireworks, so stop in and

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Speaker 2: get holiday weekend ready at Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: furniture store of the New England Patriots.

1540
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 7: You're doing a good job of actually doing the reads today.

1541
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 7: Sometimes you forget.

1542
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think Brunt really motivated me. You know, we

1543
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: need to take care of responsors.

1544
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 7: Absolutely, we need to do it all the time.

1545
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: Gives us a couch, will be a little bit more

1546
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: inclined to Sure.

1547
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: I can get your haircut at g a barber shop.

1548
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: There you go streets and there you go, get your

1549
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: pitch your haircut. Look at this haircuts A great cut,

1550
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: isn't it. You want to cut like barbershop?

1551
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 6: Will he take care of even the fallically challenged, Yeah,

1552
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 6: he actually usually.

1553
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 7: He usually he does.

1554
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: If there's like me and this other guy that's waiting, like,

1555
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: he'll like give me the like me him.

1556
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 7: My guy does that all time, My guy Anthony.

1557
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: You know, we're there for a while. The beer got

1558
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: the air because.

1559
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 7: You don't mind. He'll be in and.

1560
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: G S barber they're they're good. Yeah, they remembered you well,

1561
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: like they did. So I'll roll in at eight and

1562
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: they're not open yet and he'll be in there. He'll

1563
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: see me. He'll open up for no.

1564
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does that for the for the players as well.

1565
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: So you're on those Yeah, you should in there is

1566
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: the real star of the show is here now, folks.

1567
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. You know where the Papa Gino's plaza

1568
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: is plaza. Yeah, on the other end.

1569
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 7: That's what he knows all of us because he watched

1570
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 7: you know me, I walked in couches over there.

1571
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 5: We'll get to you again.

1572
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he tells me all the time, if I

1573
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: want to, you might need to come early to open

1574
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: up the place for me.

1575
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 7: I'm like, I might need that.

1576
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 6: I'm like one of those washed up soap opera stars.

1577
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes you need an ego boost.

1578
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 3: Is harber shop.

1579
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: Roy wants to talk about Forge and Foxborough the documentary

1580
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: We see love the first episode that covered up through

1581
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: the draft. Assuming O t As and Camp is next.

1582
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: What's coming next? Well, you'll have to wait and see.

1583
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 6: Uh.

1584
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: He also wants to know.

1585
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 7: What a good bet though, But that's probably a good

1586
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 7: Beth though.

1587
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: What what type of coverage do you have planned for

1588
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: joint practices against the commanders and vikings? Well, I can

1589
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: tell you when the commanders are here, will certainly be

1590
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: live for that, and we'll have the cameras on as

1591
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: long as we can, as long as they let us,

1592
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: as long as they let us, So.

1593
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 5: It's a great time. Come down here, though, you know

1594
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 5: what you do, Come down here and then put the

1595
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 5: radio on.

1596
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 4: For the start of practice, you listen to one will

1597
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 4: set it up for you and then we'll all enjoy

1598
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 4: it together.

1599
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people on on on the Twitter sphere,

1600
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: on the X machine are asking about Forge Fred. They

1601
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: want to know when the next one is dropping. It's

1602
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 3: a lot of some confusion about, you know, the release

1603
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: schedule and things like that.

1604
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: And well, we've we haven't told anyone anything about when

1605
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: it's coming out, but it's coming soon.

1606
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 4: I can tell you that if the last one covered

1607
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,520
Speaker 4: to the draft, this one might cover from the drafts

1608
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 4: until now.

1609
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 6: You knows. In Mini caamp I go. You know, it's

1610
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 6: probably a pretty good bag. You'll see some of that stuff.

1611
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people like were like I thought it was weekly.

1612
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 3: I was like, what were showed weekly? Wes?

1613
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave wants to know, Deuce, have you had any

1614
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: luck dealing with the Japanese not weed. My parents have

1615
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: some and they've been cutting it down, which apparently doesn't

1616
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: do much.

1617
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you just have to dedicate yourself to it

1618
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: and be ready to clean it out from the areas

1619
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: you don't want it, like get near your septic system

1620
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: or any of those stuff. But I've made peace with it,

1621
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 4: and when I first moved in and I realized what

1622
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 4: it was and how quickly it spreads like bamboo.

1623
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is bad.

1624
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: But you learn how to trim it back, and I

1625
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: think if you pull it at certain times it's better

1626
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: because it gets hard to get rid of it once

1627
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 4: it gets hard and then it loses its leaves and

1628
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: it's filled with seeds and you've got you know, hard

1629
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 4: bamboo stocks. It's easier when it's I just take one

1630
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 4: of those like things, like it's like a lopper maybe shit,

1631
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: you just right through it, so that looks like bamboo Japan.

1632
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 4: Every every it just grows.

1633
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 2: Does It's unbelievable. It's so easy to knock down, Like

1634
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: it's like killing zombies, like they're really easy to kill.

1635
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: But there's millions.

1636
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: When you start to pull the roots out, you know,

1637
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, hit them in the branch.

1638
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 7: You see the root, how deep the roots go.

1639
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 4: And then the different nodules off those nodules going off

1640
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 4: of it. I mean, the thing spreads like wildfire. So

1641
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: he just you know, you have to keep it cut back.

1642
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 5: But I haven't not too much of a problem. I mean,

1643
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 5: it all dies in the winter.

1644
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 4: But when I was in LA we had actual break

1645
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: most soft Well yeah, that stuff too, is it rows

1646
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 4: up and it shoots through the I mean it'll ruin

1647
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 4: your whole yard, the bamboo and the not weed if

1648
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 4: you're not careful with at all.

1649
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: Yep. Let's see Caesar from Brazil and he's a football player. Hey,

1650
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: how confident are we with Drake May and how does

1651
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: that compare with our previous experience with Mac Jones's second year.

1652
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 7: I'm a lot more confident that Jones.

1653
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 5: I'm a lot more confident. I think the questions are

1654
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 5: real though that I mean, he has to prove it.

1655
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 5: But you feel good that we said a lot last year.

1656
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 5: He's not going to be athletically limited.

1657
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 4: There isn't always going to be something that Drake May

1658
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: has to work around physically. He's got all the gifts

1659
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 4: that he needs to do to play in this league.

1660
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 4: But will he be again My big question this year?

1661
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 4: Is he clutch when the game is on the line.

1662
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 5: Is he at his best?

1663
01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 6: You know?

1664
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: Or is he the guy that thres interceptions and can't

1665
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 4: quite get the team over the hump.

1666
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 5: That's that's what I hope we'll learn about Drake May.

1667
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 5: I hope I hope we learn the positive that he

1668
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: is able to do it. But he's got all the

1669
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 5: tools in the toolbox. That's reassuring to know that Max.

1670
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 3: Jones, you're hoping he was going to be really a

1671
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: good enough game manager, but Drake May he could really

1672
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: elevate talent. Like I think that's why it makes you

1673
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 3: feel more optimistic. I don't know if it's necessarily that

1674
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: what he did last year was so much better than

1675
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 3: what Mac did his real the year, but just you

1676
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 3: see the tools and you see, like Deuce is saying,

1677
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: and Drake May could be an elevator of talent, whereas

1678
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: Mac Jones was always going to be well along for

1679
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 3: a ride.

1680
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: I mean, after Max first year, we went into year

1681
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: two at least I did thinking is there anything else?

1682
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: Is there anything else he can do? This year? We

1683
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: go in with Drake knowing this guy can do a lot,

1684
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: but we're hoping he can eliminate the mistakes.

1685
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just been so impressed with his ability to

1686
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 4: throw the deep ball that to me is just really

1687
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: stood out.

1688
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 5: Uniquely of my time.

1689
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 4: Granted limited here with Brady for one season, but from

1690
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 4: those other Mac just he's got a downfield accuracy gift

1691
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: that and he's not afraid to do it.

1692
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 5: I mean, we saw a lot with Booty last.

1693
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 4: Year, and I hope he continues to make those big plays.

1694
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 5: Those are so vital to keeping pick.

1695
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: Kylon Pembroke rights. And I've been listening to old Pus

1696
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: out of boredom, and I realized something that I've been

1697
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: guilty as I've been guilty as well. The past two years.

1698
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 2: We've taken solid Week one performances as a sign of

1699
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: things turning around to be better, and I want to

1700
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: warn against that we won't really figure out how good

1701
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: this team is until the first four games of the

1702
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: season are played. In my opinion, what do you guys think?

1703
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: I might even be longer than four yous.

1704
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: I just want the record to show that Week one

1705
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: against Philly two years ago, I got killed because I

1706
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 3: said that there was issues with that game tape that

1707
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: people didn't want to admit because they looked at the

1708
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: box score, said that Mac Jolling threw for like three

1709
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: hundred yards and was like, we're good.

1710
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you that I never expressed optimism

1711
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 6: off of that Week one win.

1712
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 7: Last year.

1713
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: I don't remember as much about how I felt after

1714
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 6: the Philly game. But the Cincinnati game, I think Mike

1715
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 6: and I spent a good portion of the postgame show

1716
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 6: saying that kind of style is not sustainable, Like you

1717
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 6: can't just run the ball into a brick wall and

1718
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 6: hope you're running back breaks twenty seven tackles every play

1719
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 6: and then you squeak out a win because the other

1720
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 6: team was asleep.

1721
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 7: For sixty minutes. Yeah right, you remember that, I do.

1722
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 4: But I would still say that as tepid as things

1723
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 4: were in camp, like it was a little encouraging, like

1724
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 4: they somehow found a way to win.

1725
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 5: So you're kind of lying yourself a little.

1726
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: Bit, like to the fact that you win.

1727
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 7: But it was obviously the most important thing.

1728
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: But we were you know, Stevenson breaking tackles in the backfield,

1729
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 4: the timely turnovers, with Marcus Jones having that one pop

1730
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 4: right up into his hands to take a score off

1731
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 4: the board.

1732
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: You know, it was right. We all said, that's a

1733
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: tough way to live, but we were hoping that they

1734
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: realized that and they were gonna winch And I do

1735
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: think that.

1736
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 6: They played well that day, Oh yeah, they played clean,

1737
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 6: But Cincinnati was very much complicit in their demise.

1738
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if they played a while, they played

1739
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: clean like they.

1740
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 7: I think that that team.

1741
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: Played about as well as Cable exactly. Christ and Kolfax California.

1742
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: We should talk about a little bit about it. He

1743
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: wants to know what everyone's take on the Raphael Devers

1744
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: situation is.

1745
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 7: I mean, we should talk a little bit about it.

1746
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: No, we should. I mean, listen, but it's Boston, and.

1747
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 6: I have no problem with trading Devors. I have no

1748
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not a big sacred cows guy. I

1749
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 6: just I hate the return they got, and I hate

1750
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 6: the reasons why they made the trade.

1751
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, dumping salary.

1752
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Well you're assuming that's why they made the trade.

1753
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 7: They refuted, but I have a track record, I know.

1754
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: But they refuted that.

1755
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 8: No, I know.

1756
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think it's an asset management issue,

1757
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 3: like they whether it's how we got here to the

1758
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: point that he had to be traded, or just what

1759
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: they got in return. To Paul's point, either way, you're

1760
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 3: not maximizing the last.

1761
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. If from the get

1762
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: go they said, hey, we're bringing in Bregman, can you play?

1763
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: Can you be dh He was like, yep, whatever, you

1764
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 2: need oh costas is her, can you play? And he

1765
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: was like, yep, I'll do whatever you want. If he

1766
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: had been a team player from the get do you

1767
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 2: think they would have traded him? Yep?

1768
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't, But I think that I think the the

1769
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: way that we got here was of their own doing

1770
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: because they didn't do that. They signed Alex Bregman, they

1771
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 3: showed up the spring training.

1772
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: If they had done everything right and he was a

1773
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: team player, would they have traded him?

1774
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 8: No?

1775
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But I think that the bigger issue,

1776
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 3: And this is what stood out to me. I watched

1777
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: the whole Zoom thing last night. The thing that stood

1778
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 3: out to me that I feel like isn't being talked

1779
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: about enough is Craig Breslo admitting that he mishandled the

1780
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: communication with Rapie.

1781
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: He did.

1782
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 3: He came out and he admitted that, yeah, he said

1783
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 3: that is that's that's not good general managing. Like that's

1784
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 3: just not acceptable, Like you cost the Red Sox for

1785
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: Rafael Devers like you just said you did, Like you

1786
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 3: literally cost them a star player, Like that's unacceptable. And

1787
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 3: if they had just gone to him and they had

1788
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: said I was talking to Dan Roach about this before

1789
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: the show, and he was in today and he said,

1790
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: if they sat him down and they said, we need

1791
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: a right handed bat, Alex Bregman's available. This makes the

1792
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: team better, We're gonna move you to first place, slash

1793
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: DH And they told him that in February, we.

1794
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: Didn't know that we were going to get it.

1795
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 3: They knew that they were.

1796
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: Pursuing, they were trying. If we get them, then we're

1797
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: going to try this. Yeah, that's fair enough. Now here's

1798
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: here's where there's some evidence about Paul. Okay, So let's

1799
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: say you are the owner of the Red Sox and

1800
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: your general manager just botched one of the best hitters

1801
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: in the league. The solution is getting rid of the hitter,

1802
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: or hey, maybe you're gonna take a time out from

1803
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 2: being GM.

1804
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 3: They sided with the GM.

1805
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: I gide it with the GM because why maybe, okay,

1806
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: here's our out right.

1807
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 3: Because he did what they wanted him to do, or

1808
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 3: maybe you know, it is a team at the end

1809
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: of the day, and he's one player on the team.

1810
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: I just I've watched this team trade Mookie Bets and

1811
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: Rafael dev and that's unaccepted.

1812
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: That McCarthy had the best question, which they evaded by

1813
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: going into the twenty four year history instead of the question,

1814
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 2: which was the last five years?

1815
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 7: That was very Belichick like, wasn't it.

1816
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was. It's absolutely what Belichick did with

1817
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: Mike Reese at the owner's meeting when he said, you know,

1818
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: why should fans be excited this year? He goes over

1819
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: the last twenty years?

1820
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 3: Right. It would be the same thing if the Patriots

1821
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: in a couple of years traded Christian Gonzales, right, and

1822
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: they said and they and you know, whether it was

1823
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: a contract thing like with Mookie or it was an

1824
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: attitude thing like with Devers, and they just traded Christian Gonzales,

1825
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: but they made the bed and then they traded the player.

1826
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: And I would say the same thing about doing that

1827
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 3: for Christianzalez, just to make it about football, you know,

1828
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: like that. That's what the Red Sox have done, is

1829
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: they have played hardball with their superstar players twice now

1830
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: and they've lost two generational talents as a result.

1831
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 7: And go ahead.

1832
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you se, the fans like

1833
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 4: Jared Carabas that I can't explain it, and that to

1834
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: me is the biggest nightmare as a fan when We

1835
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 4: spend so much time talking about how can the Patriots

1836
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 4: get more talented, to have talent in the building and

1837
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 4: have a core that won a championship whatnot? Seven years ago?

1838
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 4: And now that's all gone. Why do fans have any

1839
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: reason to believe that this is exactly what's gonna happen

1840
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: with all the young stars?

1841
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 6: My line of thought too, because I've heard a lot

1842
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 6: about well, it's sending a message in the locker room.

1843
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 7: You know, these young kids are impressionable. They're coming up.

1844
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 6: Roman Anthony and they're telling you how good it is

1845
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 6: for them. And I would say I can make just

1846
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 6: as strong an abstract argument. I mean, let's face it,

1847
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 6: that's a very subjective thing. Is how it affects other people,

1848
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Mentally, Like you can't identify,

1849
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 6: you can't define how that's affecting Roman Anthony and Marcello Meyer, Right,

1850
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 6: you don't know for sure? Can't that have a negative

1851
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 6: impact on a young guy like I can do exactly

1852
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 6: what they want. I can be elite at what I do,

1853
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 6: But he can give me a contract and they can

1854
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 6: still trade me.

1855
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: But he didn't do exactly he did want.

1856
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 7: He's hitting at an elite level.

1857
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: They asked him to be all they wanted.

1858
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 6: They If you think that he's gone because you wouldn't

1859
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 6: play for at base, then I have a couple of

1860
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 6: bridges to sell you he's gone because they gave him

1861
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 6: a contract that they immediately regretted. Well, three hundred and

1862
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 6: thirteen million, I would argue things changed. He became a DH.

1863
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 6: Now that's a very expensive DH.

1864
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 7: I get it.

1865
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 6: I understand what the Red Sox are thinking. He's a

1866
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 6: very expensive DH. He's not overly expensive if you consider

1867
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 6: him a third basement.

1868
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 2: So why if they asked Bregman to play second or

1869
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: short or whatever.

1870
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: Cold club third basement.

1871
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 6: Well, they also initially posed it as that that they

1872
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 6: were going to ask him to do that, and that

1873
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 6: was how they placated him initially.

1874
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: There's no issue with them asking Devers to not play

1875
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: the field or to play first base because Bregman's awesome

1876
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 3: at third base, cold glove caliber, third basement. It makes

1877
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 3: all sense in the world. But you got to be

1878
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: upfront and honest with the player, especially a star player

1879
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: like Rafael Devers, and like to douce point about the fans,

1880
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 3: like I am a fan that wants to buy tickets

1881
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: to watch the Red Sox. I won't give him my money,

1882
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 3: Like I just won't. Like you keep on doing stuff

1883
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 3: like this. It's a slap in the face of the fans,

1884
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: Like who's jersey are you supposed to buy? Like who

1885
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: are you supposed to go.

1886
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 7: To the games for?

1887
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: And I know the kids are coming, the kids are coming,

1888
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: but like they're not here yet, Like they're here, but

1889
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 3: they're not They're not at that leg right.

1890
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 6: And if you wanted to give me some some like

1891
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 6: ready made major league pitchers in an exchange that maybe

1892
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 6: costs some money, then I'd be more willing to say Okay.

1893
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 6: So they look at this is value add because it's

1894
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 6: going to be additioned by subtraction. Even though he's a

1895
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 6: really good hitter. They don't like the way he's been brooding.

1896
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 6: Even though I think this is a month too late.

1897
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 6: I think the problem was back in April and May,

1898
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 6: when I would say May, when Cosas actually got hurt

1899
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 6: and they had the hole at first base.

1900
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 7: That's when it was a problem.

1901
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 6: I think he kind of put it behind him, and

1902
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 6: I think he had moved on and he is really

1903
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 6: sort of settled into a decent groove offensively. And I

1904
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 6: had an argument with No Socks yesterday about this. It's like,

1905
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 6: you know, he doesn't he's not that good. He doesn't

1906
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 6: do this. And I would argue with with no socks

1907
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 6: in general, that defines every player and every sport is

1908
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 6: they're just not that good anymore, you know, in this

1909
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 6: day and age. But like he's pointing to his batting

1910
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 6: average being two seventy two whatever, it is not being

1911
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 6: very good. What do you think of Aaron Judge? Do

1912
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 6: you know he has too fewer RBIs than Aaron Judge.

1913
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 6: Aaron Judge is having a historic season. He has two

1914
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 6: fewer RBIs than Aaron Judge.

1915
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: And if you took away half of Dever's RBIs that

1916
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: he has this year, the Red Sox wouldn't even be

1917
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: close to where they are now. They wouldn't even be sniffing.

1918
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 7: So trade him. I get it, you want to you

1919
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 7: want to get about you.

1920
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: I'm for the trade, by the way, but that's.

1921
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 7: Okay, And I'm not on record anti, but I'm not

1922
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 7: anti the trade.

1923
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Make a baseball trade, and make a baseball.

1924
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 7: Trade, don't make a salary dump that.

1925
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what they do with the money. I'm

1926
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: holding out hope.

1927
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 7: But I don't know why that matters. If it does matter,

1928
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 7: if they had made if they had got something for

1929
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 7: this guy, you chose.

1930
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 2: Not to not right away you get closer to the deadline,

1931
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: other guys might free up. It's better to wait till

1932
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: then you might have more of a selection the deadline.

1933
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 7: I don't understand if you have.

1934
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: Because you wanted to get rid of him.

1935
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 6: Now I'm okay again again, after everything had set, the

1936
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 6: dust had settled, and he had sort.

1937
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: Of we don't know how long they've been working on this,

1938
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:34,839
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

1939
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 7: He had come to grips with it.

1940
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: So if you waited till after the dust had settled,

1941
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: they waited until they had the deal.

1942
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 6: But again, I don't understand why your theory is exclusive

1943
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 6: of getting talent.

1944
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Now, I think Craig and Sam did a good job.

1945
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: All right, we got let's get back to the show.

1946
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 7: It's just that I'm talking about it.

1947
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: We talked about it enough.

1948
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 3: We can talk show like the trade. There's I'm sure

1949
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: there's a much more recent example. But it's my childhood,

1950
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: like a rod for Alfonsa Sorriana, right, like this is

1951
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: my rod was so much better than a Fonza Sorriana,

1952
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 3: but sorran it.

1953
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 6: Was a good But did that preclude those two teams

1954
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 6: from then adding other players in the deadline?

1955
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: And they traded him, but they took on money. Texas

1956
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 3: took on money to make the trade happen, but they

1957
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 3: got an All Star.

1958
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: When is the trade headline? By the way, July?

1959
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: End of July?

1960
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 7: And I just don't know why trading for.

1961
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 2: A month and a half. It's a month and a

1962
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: half from now.

1963
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 7: You don't know how calendars work. It's less than a

1964
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 7: month away the trade deadline, he said, end of July.

1965
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 7: Usually it's the middle of July. But but it's the

1966
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 7: end of June. Now then it's like.

1967
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: That's the middle of middle of June.

1968
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 7: So it's less than a month away.

1969
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: I said a month and a half because he said

1970
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: it was the end of July.

1971
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 6: You know, so the thirty So the thirty first is

1972
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 6: a month and a half. Okay, you're right, it's July

1973
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 6: thirty first month happened and a half. Why do you

1974
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 6: have to wait till you're right? I said, it's a

1975
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 6: long time. Said you're right, No, it's not a long time.

1976
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 7: It is, it's six weeks.

1977
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't want him brooding sitting on that cooler being

1978
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: a yeah, I don't want him hitting.

1979
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 7: I'm not anti Devers trade.

1980
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: I know you want it more. I don't think right

1981
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: now they.

1982
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 7: They wanted something, they got nothing.

1983
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: They got three hundred million dollars.

1984
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 6: This makes the package they got for Mookie Bets look

1985
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 6: like they got Jason Verattek and Derek Wall for Heathcliff's Sulcombe.

1986
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 7: This was nothing. They got nothing.

1987
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't think the management they got to.

1988
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 6: Get the prize of they immediately put to Wister like

1989
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 6: that's supposedly the best guy thing.

1990
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 3: But they didn't have alignment with Devers and that was

1991
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 3: the most important thing, and said it's seventeen times, only.

1992
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 7: Fourteen only fourteen?

1993
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: All right, okay good?

1994
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 6: And I also read that chicken bleep thing that they

1995
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 6: had to do by saying we're gonna have an eight

1996
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 6: o'clock Well, zoo.

1997
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 7: Olot want Yeah, why did the GM have to be

1998
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 7: on the west coast?

1999
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 6: Well, he's gonna be with the because he has no

2000
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 6: balls and he didn't want to have a press conference

2001
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 6: when people might actually be there.

2002
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: At a gorilla He may not be suited to be

2003
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: a GM, that's true.

2004
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 6: They're suited to own the team anymore because they don't

2005
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 6: want to invest in winning.

2006
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: Watching that press conference made it worse, like I I

2007
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 3: it was. It made it worse. They like just sitting

2008
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: there watching them talk about it. We don't have a lineman.

2009
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: You don't have a lineman. He's your DH, and he's

2010
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: the best left at hand, Henner in the al.

2011
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 7: Now we have now we have roster flexibility.

2012
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: Well, because they've always wanted that with the DH. They

2013
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 3: want to revolve the socks.

2014
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 7: And that's that's you know what they always say about

2015
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 7: having a young guy, you know what's really good for him, dhing.

2016
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 7: That's usually a good way to develop a prospect.

2017
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 3: No pressure on the young guys except Roman Anthony hitting

2018
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 3: third in the lineup in a really important series in Seattle.

2019
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 3: No pressure better than.

2020
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 7: Christian Campbell hitting clean up for like the entire month

2021
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 7: of May.

2022
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: It's crazy, all right, Nate, Chicago's on the hotline. What's up, Nate?

2023
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 7: They've won six in a row.

2024
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 21: Good now, you guys are getting riled up, all right,

2025
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 21: Hang in there, Mike.

2026
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2027
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 7: Mike talks about no other sports I know you hockey.

2028
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: It's not just football, it's just defense, not even sport.

2029
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 7: And you know Mike, he's defensive guy.

2030
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: Right.

2031
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: He doesn't even talk about stuff you know about that

2032
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 3: about Mike, but he likes the defense.

2033
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: All right, what do you got, Nate, Well, we.

2034
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 8: All value Mike. I think we can all agree on that.

2035
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you in different ways, all right.

2036
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 21: You know we talk about sometimes now it takes a

2037
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 21: couple of years before we know the draft class is

2038
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 21: a good draft or a bad draft. I was thinking

2039
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 21: about the twenty three draft, Kean White, Christian Gonzalez, Pop Douglass,

2040
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 21: and kay Sean Body, and I'm wondering what you guys

2041
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 21: would need to see from now as far as like

2042
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 21: increase productivity this year, for at the end of the

2043
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 21: year for us to look at the twenty three draft

2044
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 21: and say, hey, that was a good draft. And I

2045
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 21: have a music recommendation for Evan. Listen a Big X

2046
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 21: the plug. I think you'll like him. I'll take it

2047
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 21: off air. Thanks, guys.

2048
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: I've heard a Big X them a little bit. I

2049
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 3: think it's already kind of a good draft to me

2050
01:27:59,360 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: because of Christian.

2051
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Gonzalez was obviously an excellent pick. Yeah,

2052
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 6: and those other three guys, if they make an ascension

2053
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 6: into being frontline players.

2054
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 7: That's a great draft. I think they've already four front

2055
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 7: line players.

2056
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: Already a solid draft. I think to be a greater,

2057
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: a really great draft, that those other guys would have

2058
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 3: to help out. But like Christian Zalez has been a stud,

2059
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: Kean White's been a good player, you know, starting caliber player,

2060
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Pop Douglas has been a functional receiver.

2061
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 6: Like I think that I want to see more about

2062
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 6: those the other three, Like king On White is a

2063
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 6: starting caliber player for the Patriots, would he be a

2064
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 6: starting caliber player for other teams?

2065
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 3: He would be in a rotation.

2066
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 7: I'm not saying no, ye asking that was an open ending.

2067
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 7: I don't know if you would be.

2068
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 3: An eighty percent snap guy for another team, But he

2069
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: would be playing on on most teams, you know, I

2070
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: think he would have a role.

2071
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 4: I think Mike would argue, I mean, I think when

2072
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 4: you look at it, it's a big opportunity for these

2073
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 4: guys this year. I mean, Demario Douglas have an opportunity

2074
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 4: a new offense, maybe catch a bunch of balls, Booty

2075
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 4: as he fit in.

2076
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 5: I mean, seems like he has a can. Actually with

2077
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 5: Drake May maybe he takes palls.

2078
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 6: But those are two guys that I would say fall

2079
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 6: into the same category of what I'm just talking about.

2080
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 6: They're going to be receivers for this team that has

2081
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 6: no receivers. Yeah, would they be frontline receivers for a

2082
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 6: team that has it?

2083
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: You know?

2084
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 7: Right?

2085
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: And that and that to me leads to the biggest question.

2086
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean, and I even just throw City so in there.

2087
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 4: He's in the mix for the guard position. But you

2088
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 4: Ken White is That's that's the defining one to me.

2089
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: He's able to be a starting defensive end hand down play,

2090
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 4: you know, sixty seventy percent of the snaps be out there,

2091
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: consistent pressure off the edge.

2092
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Then, I mean, right, really we know Gonzales. If Booty

2093
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 2: and White end up being good NFL players, then good draft.

2094
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 6: But I watched Gonzales play and I say he would

2095
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 6: be a cornerback for virtually any other team.

2096
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2097
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 6: I don't say that about any of those other guys

2098
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 6: in the draft. No, I think they get a lot

2099
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 6: of opportunities because they're on a team that's talent division. Now,

2100
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 6: maybe this the caller's right, they're entering year three. You know,

2101
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 6: Kaisehon Boody, if you told me before last year could

2102
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 6: have had the year that he did last year, I

2103
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 6: would have said that, I don't see it.

2104
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: He did.

2105
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 6: He got better and he's improving, and based on what

2106
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 6: I saw in the spring, I think he's built off

2107
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 6: of that and is getting even better.

2108
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 7: Good shape, So maybe he is.

2109
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 6: At the end of the year. I look at him

2110
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 6: and say, yeah, he could be a third receiver for

2111
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 6: another team too.

2112
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 7: He's pretty good. He has a knack.

2113
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 4: You got a factor in the Marty Mapu moved to

2114
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 4: linebacker and that happened last week, and it's it's it

2115
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 4: seems like I mean, we talked injuries with him. He's

2116
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 4: hanging on by a thread.

2117
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 3: It's the middle of that draft, Jake Anders Chad Ryland obviously, Oh,

2118
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 3: I think the city. So Mafi's already off the team.

2119
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Is the fifth round pick that year, That middle of

2120
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 3: the draft was rough. I remember Dead Live and then

2121
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 3: they saved me with Pop Douglas. I was like, all right,

2122
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: like a good pick, but that's always like that's another

2123
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: you know, feather of the notch of the consensus. You know,

2124
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: they they picked two guys in the sixth round at

2125
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 3: receiver that were pretty well thought of and known and

2126
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, and those two guys end

2127
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: up being a lot better than the guys that they

2128
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: reached on in the third and the fourth round.

2129
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Todd in North Carolina. Hey, Todd, Hey.

2130
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 16: Guys, can you yes?

2131
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 13: Okay, so I've got a quick game.

2132
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 8: First, I'll say Carolina is as derived because we'll get

2133
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 8: you to know about what.

2134
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 16: How many men's professional teams can you name that don't

2135
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 16: have a pluralized name.

2136
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 21: I got the Heat and I got the Apple.

2137
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 6: What name?

2138
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 8: How many of you guys can name?

2139
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 5: It's a pet peevemon.

2140
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Todd. So if you go in MLS, they

2141
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: all do you know, what's the question? How many men's

2142
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: professional teams have a pluralized name?

2143
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 3: But is that pluralized?

2144
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2145
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 7: Heat, the Magic, Thunder, Thunder, Jazz.

2146
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of basketball teams.

2147
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2148
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: So this just feels in the same department of like

2149
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 4: warm up song team mascot names they used.

2150
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 6: To be so like the Red Sox, We'll do the

2151
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 6: white song now the Raptors, Red Sox White.

2152
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 2: So it's all about it's all about you know what

2153
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: is that By the way, I love the Yankee pinstripes.

2154
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: Their away uniforms are like the ugliest.

2155
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,839
Speaker 6: Well, they've destroyed the uniforms too with that new company

2156
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 6: that fanatics.

2157
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 7: Is that what it is? A fanatics thing?

2158
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree with you, Fred, they've made bland

2159
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 6: uniforms somehow look worse.

2160
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the Red Sox wearing their

2161
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: city connects during the Yankee series, because this has also

2162
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 3: been the point of contention that it should be like

2163
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: old school Red Sox Yankees original jerseys.

2164
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 7: I don't care about not city connects. That's another one

2165
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 7: that gets under no socks a skin.

2166
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the new use of hockey?

2167
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 4: The YETI is that what they landed on, just like like,

2168
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 4: why can't we just club not yet?

2169
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 6: I don't think it was Yetty. I think that was

2170
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 6: one that was and they all said they picked the

2171
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 6: wrong name. They should have gone with Yetti. But I

2172
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 6: think they had a hard time to get that right

2173
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 6: from the foot or something like that. But they but

2174
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 6: they have company.

2175
01:32:58,880 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 3: Oh right, they.

2176
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: Couldn't use you couldn't use it, right.

2177
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 3: I also think it's funny that the athletics the A's

2178
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 3: do not have a city right now. So they they're

2179
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 3: not like the Boston Red Sox are just the athletics.

2180
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 2: They didn't know the olament, So what are they doing.

2181
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 3: They're in Sacramento right now, but they're going to be

2182
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 3: in Vegas.

2183
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: That's what I thought they were going on.

2184
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they right now in Vegas.

2185
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 3: Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox Athletics.

2186
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 2: That's going to be a stadium in Vegas right for

2187
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: the baseball team.

2188
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's supposed to go where the indoor

2189
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 3: can't plays Flamingo right, Flamingo Luxor area of the strip

2190
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 3: down there now, the Luxor is thing. I think they

2191
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 3: forged itself.

2192
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 7: Ex Caliber I still the ex Caliber.

2193
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 3: They demoed the Flamingo. I think the other two are

2194
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: still there.

2195
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 4: We stayed at the ex Caliber and we got like

2196
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 4: comped for the brunch or whatever it was, and we

2197
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 4: were like really excitedly, Hey, look at us getting comped.

2198
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 7: I went up there.

2199
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 5: I didn't eve want to eat the dessert, Like everything

2200
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 5: just looks so gross.

2201
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: It was the nastiest book I have ever seen in

2202
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: my life. Boston Cream's on the line. What's up? Boston Cream?

2203
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 8: A guns wouldn't be another Pus show without an argument,

2204
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 8: completely not about football, and another.

2205
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 2: Boring Tod question, good.

2206
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 7: Straight Tom Brady hater.

2207
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 8: But truly it's kind of Paul that's the sneaky, maybe

2208
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 8: not so steinky Belichick hater.

2209
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 3: It's true I agree with that.

2210
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 7: I don't really have. I not expressed myself over the

2211
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 7: last twenty five years. It's not properly.

2212
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 3: Just got and four.

2213
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 6: I've sort of held my nose and you know, I've

2214
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 6: accepted the fact that Belichick was the head coach. I

2215
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 6: can remember having an argument with Fred like one hundred

2216
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 6: years ago, like, if you could be guaranteed all the

2217
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 6: winning that the Patriots have done, but have a head

2218
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 6: coach with a personality instead, would you want? And Fred

2219
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 6: very stubborn, he said, no, no, no, I want Belichick,

2220
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 6: not really understanding what You're gonna win six titles and

2221
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 6: you're gonna win every game that you've won, But Andy Reid's.

2222
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 7: Going to be the coach. No, I don't want it.

2223
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 6: They might say hi to you, yeah, but he might

2224
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 6: actually walk by you and acknowledge that you exist as

2225
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 6: a fellow human being.

2226
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: No listen asking too much.

2227
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think changed his stance on that sense.

2228
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 8: In terms for pedestrian pet peeves. One of my pet

2229
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 8: peeves is when you're standing at a crosswalk and you

2230
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 8: know what car can stop, but this might be a

2231
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 8: city problem. The person just doesn't want to stop because

2232
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 8: they're in a rush, and they just speed up and

2233
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 8: go right past to you as like a runner and

2234
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 8: someone who's often a pedestrian, I like to just put

2235
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 8: one foot into the roadway and then watch the fear

2236
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 8: of God come through their eyes.

2237
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's here's where I'm Boston kaream. I disagree

2238
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: with that. I think in the city, if you're if

2239
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 2: you're a pedestrian and you're not crossing with the light,

2240
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: you're taking your life into your own hands. I think

2241
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: the cars have every right to keep going. I don't

2242
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 2: in the city we should be stopping every time someone's

2243
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: in a tosswalk. It just ties up traffic too much.

2244
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 7: That's why you have the hoicide fred for it in

2245
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 7: the city.

2246
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm all for jwalking. I'm a big jay walker,

2247
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: but I realize I'm I'm in the wrong. Yeah, they

2248
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong and they don't need to stop

2249
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: for me, so I need to do it.

2250
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 6: I've occasionally done what he's talking about where you get

2251
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 6: to an intersection and you realize too late that there's

2252
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 6: a person and you feel I feel bad, like, oh,

2253
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 6: I should have stopped, But now like I don't want

2254
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 6: to slam on my brakes to stop because that can

2255
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 6: be more dangerous than not stopping in the first place.

2256
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 7: So I see both ways.

2257
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, Fred is kind of like Michael Scott where he

2258
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 8: comes in and tells the story about hitting a speed

2259
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 8: bump on the highway. Right. And I do have a

2260
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 8: question if we have times are a little overrating or roster,

2261
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 8: which I would believe every fan base does. If you

2262
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 8: were to put a number out of thirty two, what

2263
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 8: would you say The Patriots skill wise are out of

2264
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 8: thirty assuming drink made is like middle of.

2265
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: The rowdy too, Oh he's middle of the road.

2266
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 7: Better better take back that shot at toime.

2267
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty two is a little Yeah, thirty two, That

2268
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: is that what he's saying. You're saying either the No.

2269
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 7: One one to thirty two? Would you put that?

2270
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 3: He was saying that they He thinks that they're I

2271
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 3: think that they've.

2272
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 6: Sort of gotten to the hot probably the middle of

2273
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 6: the path twenties. Yeah, they've moved up from the bottom

2274
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,839
Speaker 6: to you know, top Thankston Williams.

2275
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 7: Top of the last thirty is tough.

2276
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 3: The offensive line and receivers are still not.

2277
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 6: Sire, still works in progress, you know, based on that

2278
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 6: that overrated thing. So I was joking about, you know,

2279
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 6: you go for the ego boost when someone comes out

2280
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 6: and say hey you. So I bump into someone yesterday

2281
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 6: getting lunch and starts talking to me and asking me

2282
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 6: questions about you know, and I was like, you know,

2283
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 6: I went with my my staple free agency thing.

2284
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 7: They've improved, blah blah blah blah blah.

2285
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 2: So what do you think?

2286
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 7: What do you think?

2287
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, ten wins, eleven wins. I go, oh,

2288
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 6: that's a lot. He goes, well, what do you think?

2289
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 6: I go maybe seven or eight? The look of utter

2290
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 6: disdain really and I felt like I, you know, I today,

2291
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 6: you know, and I was just like, I'm thinking to myself,

2292
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 6: don't ask me if you don't want an answer, like

2293
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 6: I tried to answer it. Honestly, I think I think

2294
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 6: they're going to be twice as good as they were

2295
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 6: last year, and somehow that's going to be a disappointment

2296
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 6: to you. That kind of lends to Boston Cream's point

2297
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 6: of I think people were starting to overrate things a

2298
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 6: little bit. Eleven wins now or we're going to be

2299
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 6: eleven wins are busted, We're going to be disappointed.

2300
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 5: It's what happens is that builds in a crescendo.

2301
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 4: You have mini camp, there's usually good vibes out of that,

2302
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: and you get to this point between ani camp and

2303
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 4: training camping, this is the time to be stupid positive

2304
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 4: because once you start training camp and joint practices in

2305
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 4: preseason games. I remember thinking last year with Jira when

2306
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 4: it was like, it's all great right now, I mean,

2307
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 4: and Abel said the same thing to you, like it's

2308
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 4: it's easy to run the thing through the off season,

2309
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 4: and especially this year it looked like pretty good.

2310
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 5: But we all know July twenty whatever, and when it

2311
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 5: all starts that's when the real well.

2312
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 6: And then what people do and people do this every year,

2313
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 6: so they they added what, let's say conservatively seven six, seven,

2314
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 6: eight starters.

2315
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 7: What happens if three of those guys get hurt.

2316
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 2: It's the worst, right and injuries will happen.

2317
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 6: And that's not a matter of it's not like that's

2318
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 6: a doomsday scenario. I'm not talking like Drake May gets hurt.

2319
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 6: Every team would be devastated if their starting quarterbacks Carold Landry.

2320
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 7: But what pull that?

2321
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 6: What happens if if Christian Gonzales gets hurt? What you know,

2322
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 6: what happens if you know you have right now a

2323
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 6: situation on the offensive line where you've you've drafted a

2324
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 6: kid to be the fourth overall pick and starting left

2325
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 6: tackle because you didn't have a left tackle, and all

2326
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 6: of a sudden, Will Campbell gets hurt. You know, like,

2327
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 6: I'm not even know if Will Campbell's going to be

2328
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 6: good or not, but I know that you don't have

2329
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 6: anything better than him.

2330
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 2: I know that.

2331
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 3: I also think you're looking at the opponents and a

2332
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: lot of the reason why people are picking them to

2333
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 3: win so many games because the schedule is so easy.

2334
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 3: But it always looks one way in June, and then

2335
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 3: we get into the season, and then there will be

2336
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 3: teams that are much better than we thought they were

2337
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 3: going to be. There might be teams that were much worse,

2338
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 3: but there's going to be teams that were better.

2339
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 6: It's a great point, you know, I think it looked

2340
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 6: a lot harder last year at this time. Yeah, and

2341
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 6: it ended up playing right right, because I think there

2342
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 6: were teams like the Jets that people thought were going

2343
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 6: to be really good.

2344
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 7: It's gonna be two really tough games, and it turned

2345
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 7: out that it wasn't.

2346
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Jets. Matthew from Arizona rights in, I've

2347
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 2: been watching the Jets YouTube channel and worry that we

2348
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: may be underestimating them With Justin Fields, he's more mobile

2349
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: in the pocket. Do you think he's a bigger threat

2350
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 2: than Rogers with the Steelers? Yes? Yes, what he's saying

2351
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 2: is Rogers with the Steelers. Jet feels with the Jets.

2352
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: Who's a bigger challenge for the paper Rogers with this Steelers.

2353
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 6: You're talking about who's a better team the Steelers are

2354
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 6: the Jets.

2355
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 2: Is he a bigger threat with the Jets than Rogers

2356
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 2: is with the Steelers?

2357
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 6: I would say Fields with the Jets, I think Rogers

2358
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 6: is done, but I think the Steelers are better than

2359
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 6: the Jets. So I would rather play the Jets than

2360
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 6: the Steelers, if that makes any sense.

2361
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 7: But Rogers, to me, I.

2362
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 5: Want to get there, and I probably am there.

2363
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: It's still just hard to shake off Aaron Rodgers, and

2364
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 4: you know, truly believe he's washed, which he very well

2365
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 4: might be. But I just think of how Fields looked

2366
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 4: here a couple of years ago, and he had the

2367
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 4: best game of his life.

2368
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 5: I think about Week one with Gino Smith.

2369
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 6: I think how he looked here last year, where like

2370
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 6: the Jets are a good team, like talent wise, they

2371
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 6: missing the quarterback, which is a huge missing. But do

2372
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 6: we like just penciling two wins against the Jets? Is

2373
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 6: that what everybody's doing other than us? No, but I

2374
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 6: think everybody's penciling two wins for there. The penciling will

2375
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 6: win over the Raiders. The penciling and win over the Titans,

2376
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 6: the Browns, and that's how you get to ten and

2377
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 6: eleven wins. Every one of those games is win. I

2378
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 6: look at those games, is probably six or seven of

2379
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 6: them you're gonna split them. You'll go four and three

2380
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 6: if you know, three and four whatever, because the other

2381
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 6: teams are looking at you the same way.

2382
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 2: Sure.

2383
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Justin Fields does not put any fear, And

2384
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 3: to me, that fear that game he played a couple

2385
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 3: of years ago was the best game of his life.

2386
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 3: He'll never play that.

2387
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 6: I do not have fear of Justin Fields. I respect

2388
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 6: the Jets roster, and I kind of respect what they've done. Like,

2389
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 6: I haven't heard Ben Vollen wrote about this over the weekend,

2390
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 6: and I you know, I hesitate to give Ben Vollen

2391
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 6: credit because I love to tease Benvowen. He's one of

2392
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 6: my favorite guys to tease. I haven't heard anything about

2393
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 6: the Jets all off season. When was the last time

2394
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 6: you said that?

2395
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think the Jets roster has they

2396
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 3: have Obviously they have some top end talent with Sauce

2397
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 3: and Garrett Wilson and Quentin Williams, but like.

2398
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 7: We're making some a pretty good offensive one.

2399
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 3: We're just getting to the point though, where it's like

2400
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 3: everybody keeps talking about how to Jets' roster is and

2401
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 3: they don't win. So like at some point you have

2402
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 3: to look at it and say, it can't all be

2403
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 3: the coach, it can't all be the quarterback. Like they

2404
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: have this great roster every single year, Jet's great roster, loaded, loaded, loaded,

2405
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 3: and then they don't win any games. So at some

2406
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 3: point they got to win.

2407
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

2408
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 6: I would agree with that, and I would also say

2409
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 6: the same thing I just said about the Patriots. I

2410
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 6: do think they have good talent around the roster. Let's

2411
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 6: see what happens when those some of those guys start

2412
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 6: getting hurt. You know, Let's see how much depth they have.

2413
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 6: I think the offensive line they're gonna have, They're gonna

2414
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:30,839
Speaker 6: have two young tackles.

2415
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 4: You know.

2416
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 7: Are they gonna stay healthy?

2417
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, maybe Jasper and Somerville by way

2418
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: of Maine. Full disclosure. I get rid of my car

2419
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 2: two years back and drive mostly for work a few

2420
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 2: times a month. If you're driving a car in Boston,

2421
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 2: you are one hundred percent an interloper and should act

2422
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 2: as such. I slow walk, jay, walk, walk, or however

2423
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: I please, because Boston is a four hundred year old

2424
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: city with bones built around the on foot individual. When

2425
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm in some hell hole like Phoenix, I know I

2426
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 2: will coutow to drivers they will legit kill you. But

2427
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 2: when I'm in God's walkable country, I will continue to

2428
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: be a walk Chad ten and seven season wildcard win

2429
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: with the second round exit incoming, Drake may MVP discussion

2430
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 2: next year watch the space.

2431
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 3: Boston would be more walkable. To his point, if the

2432
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 3: public transit was better than it is now. Some of

2433
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 3: the reason why it isn't is because the city grid

2434
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 3: is makes no sense whatsoever. It's not like New York

2435
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 3: City where it's all just you.

2436
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 7: Know, it's amazing, you know what cows dictate how the

2437
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 7: roads are going to be.

2438
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get his point, but like it's only walkable

2439
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 3: within the neighborhoods that you want. Like if you're in

2440
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 3: the North End for the day, great and walkable. But

2441
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 3: if you live in Everett and you want to go

2442
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 3: to the North End, there's really only one way to

2443
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 3: do that, like you know, and it's in an uber

2444
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 3: in your own car.

2445
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 4: Like you're over by the Common or you're kind of

2446
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 4: North End near South Station with Quincy Market in that area, right, But.

2447
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 7: A lot of people do walk.

2448
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 6: I'm always sort of I always think of different areas

2449
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 6: of the city that in my mind are like, oh,

2450
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 6: well that's way over there. But people that live in

2451
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 6: and around the city and spend a lot of time

2452
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 6: in the city, No, you just walk from you know

2453
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 6: wherever to Fenway and that's no problem. I remember doing

2454
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 6: that when when I met my wife and she was

2455
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 6: still living in town. She lived you know, near Beacon Hill,

2456
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 6: and like, just how many places we walked that I

2457
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 6: was like I never thought of like being able to

2458
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 6: walk from there to there.

2459
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now the green line, if you're on the

2460
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 3: green line, you're good. Any of the other things you're

2461
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 3: it's a it's a while. And then the green line,

2462
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 3: you know, we'll go all away from Fenway to to

2463
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 3: you know, North Station, so you you can like use it.

2464
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 3: But it's just I challenged that the whole city is

2465
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,879
Speaker 3: really walkable, like the bird, like the neighborhoods are walkable.

2466
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get a lot of traffic through Ruggles for Fenway.

2467
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 4: Is that a big Like we did that one time

2468
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 4: and said we don't we can't get to the green line,

2469
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: but we took the commuter.

2470
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 5: Rail to Ruggles and that.

2471
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 4: But that's a pretty good little walk from rugg Stachne.

2472
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good walk.

2473
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 7: That's a good walk.

2474
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: Kevin England, I've been a huge Patriots fan for twenty

2475
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: five plus years, but in recent years I've adopted Boston

2476
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: as a whole and watched the Celtics and Bruins when

2477
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 2: my schedule allows. Very recently I started working at baseball

2478
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 2: with the Red Sox. My question is, can you explain

2479
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 2: the Raphael Devers terms in football? Terms the trade in

2480
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 2: football terms, how big are we talking? So what would

2481
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 2: be now in an analogy?

2482
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 7: No, No, that's a big trade. I don't I don't

2483
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 7: trade have one.

2484
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 6: I mean it's not as big as like the Luca

2485
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 6: trade that happened in the NBA, but kind of in

2486
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 6: that ballpark's close.

2487
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 3: It's a similar trade, you know, similar Like wait, what

2488
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 3: they traded?

2489
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 19: Who?

2490
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: You know?

2491
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: I know?

2492
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 6: Sunday afternoon, my son told me and I said, we

2493
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 6: did you get that? Like I immediately didn't believe it.

2494
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 3: That was the worst part. I was at a Father's

2495
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: Day dinner with my diehard Red Sox fan dad, and

2496
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 3: we were sitting down to eat dinner and I had

2497
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: to tell him Father's Day that they just traded Raviel

2498
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 3: Devers and I just saw, like the emotion just gon

2499
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 3: leave his face, and he was.

2500
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 2: Like, what I think it would be? Like it's hard

2501
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 2: to compare it to trading a quarterback, because quarterback, but

2502
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 2: like if if you were to trade a big sack

2503
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 2: leader like a Max Crosby or something, and you got

2504
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: like special teamers and uh, you know, some draft picks

2505
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: draft picks in return, it would be something like that.

2506
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 2: I just think that the one of the league's best

2507
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 2: sack leaders.

2508
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,560
Speaker 3: The fact that he was homegrown, I think adds a

2509
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 3: whole another angle to it as well, Like.

2510
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 4: Especially on the heels of what's happened in the last

2511
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 4: few years.

2512
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just like I.

2513
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 3: Said earlier, Like from a Patriots perspective, I think it's

2514
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 3: like if they had extended Christian Gonzales then like asked

2515
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 3: him to like move to safety and he got all

2516
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 3: mad about it, and then all of a sudden they

2517
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 3: were like, you know what, if you're not going to

2518
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 3: play ball, we're just gonna trade you like that. That

2519
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 3: would like that sort of thing is basically what happened.

2520
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 7: I don't get that you make it. What would make

2521
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 7: it a better team?

2522
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 3: Says you, Well, no, we actually think we might win

2523
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 3: more games now without Rafield evers then we would have

2524
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 3: if not. And that's algorithm. I don't mean.

2525
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 6: I don't mean just to like steal my boy Felger's

2526
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 6: line that he says all the time. It's one of

2527
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 6: the few things that he says that I actually agree with.

2528
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going to happen. I don't, I

2529
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 6: don't I can't see the future. I don't know what's

2530
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 6: gonna happen. Maybe some of these teams that I think

2531
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 6: have played I think the Yankees have played over their

2532
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 6: heads quite frankly for the first three months of the season,

2533
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 6: with all their injuries are I can't believe that they're

2534
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 6: in this situation that maybe they're starting to seek their level.

2535
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 6: They've lost four in a row now, maybe maybe they

2536
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 6: have a dive coming. I can't see the future. I

2537
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 6: don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think

2538
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 6: the Red Sox are better today than they were.

2539
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 3: Watching the Yankees twice in like a week, it's like

2540
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 3: to get Judge out. The rest of that lineup is

2541
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 3: really not anything scary, not like it used to be.

2542
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 3: You're not so Kodo Stanton Judge, you.

2543
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 6: Know, And if they can get Stanton, I mean Stanton's

2544
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 6: coming back now, but you know, he's such a flawed hitter.

2545
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 7: Who knows what you're going to get from him? I

2546
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 7: don't know.

2547
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 2: Uh, David and Maryland. Dear Evan. He says, I really

2548
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 2: like you. You're a great addition to the show over

2549
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: the past few years, and I'm concerned about but I'm

2550
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: concerned about your mental and emotional health. Please. You are

2551
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 2: far too young to be such a curmudgeon. Yes, people

2552
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: talking about soap man bits and personal hygienes can be icky,

2553
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 2: but just chill. Why rant about the youth goofing around

2554
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: at concerts? Not everyone has fun your way, and that's okay.

2555
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: Most concerning is that you are so annoyed by sometimes

2556
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 2: greeting your friendly coworkers in the hallway. Paul was already

2557
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: voted most likely to yell at kids to get off

2558
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 2: his lawn, and yet he has the greatest advice, just

2559
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 2: be a decent person. I have two things to help

2560
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: you seriously. One, you are a great ball knower. Just

2561
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: be who you are and let others be themselves. Two,

2562
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 2: I have a burning question I need you to answer.

2563
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 2: Can you explain the eighty five Bears forty six defense?

2564
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 2: They had great players, yes, but what was the scheme?

2565
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 2: I have never heard a good explanation before, and you

2566
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: are just the guy to do it.

2567
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: Well.

2568
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 2: This is the Buddy Ryan forty six correfense.

2569
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, the forty six defense is not I'm trying

2570
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 3: to think of the best way to discre like it's

2571
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 3: not nowadays. I don't think it's that revolutionary. It was

2572
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 3: kind of revolutionary for the time. But now, you know,

2573
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 3: teams played a lot more that. Basically the Bear Front,

2574
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 3: which you know, very conveniently named it was, you know,

2575
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 3: probably the biggest thing that came out of the forty

2576
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 3: six defense. You know, just the way that they align

2577
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 3: their defensive linemen and.

2578
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 7: Things like that.

2579
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't say that it's that far of

2580
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 3: a departure from what teams do now. It just was

2581
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 3: a pretty revolutionary for the time. Also, me complaining about

2582
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 3: everything is me being myself, so that that's just I

2583
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 3: complained about a lot of things. You I'm a complainer.

2584
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: Talked to quite a few of the nineteen eighty five guys,

2585
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 4: and all of them when talking about that game, and

2586
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 4: they played the Bears twice in that season, they said

2587
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 4: it felt like they had a couple extra guys on

2588
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 4: the field going against them, that's how talented they felt.

2589
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 5: And the Patriots also.

2590
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 4: Too, lost Lynn Dawson, their tight end pretty early in

2591
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 4: that game. They came out throwing, trying not to run

2592
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 4: into the brick wall, which got away from their identity,

2593
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 4: and we saw how it all snowballed on them. But

2594
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 4: a lot of respect, I mean, I talked to Tip

2595
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 4: about it. Tip was like I was so interested in

2596
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 4: afterwards he had to like go get the playbook after

2597
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,560
Speaker 4: the season and really dive into understand.

2598
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 7: It a little bit.

2599
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 4: But likee F said, it's just I don't have the

2600
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 4: ex centers and guards cover them up and.

2601
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 3: Knowledge the barefront was the big thing, you know, like

2602
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 3: like du said, like the three guys across the middle

2603
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: of the defensive line covering the centers and the guard

2604
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,600
Speaker 3: or guard and guards and centers single high most of

2605
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,600
Speaker 3: the time, one high safety. They had the two linebackers

2606
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 3: on one point right on one side of the of

2607
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 3: the formation too, which is like kind of unique. But

2608
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 3: it was like basically just like a four to three

2609
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 3: Like essentially, I.

2610
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 4: Want to say too maybe and I don't know if

2611
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 4: you guys remember this, but I feel like Washington's offense

2612
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 4: eventually came around schematically to something which I might even

2613
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 4: just been the single back set that really gave the

2614
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 4: forty six problems.

2615
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 5: There was like a schematic tack that it was they kind.

2616
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: Of exped to do.

2617
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 7: Was what Miami did to him. Miami shredded throw it

2618
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 7: all over that game.

2619
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 5: They lost.

2620
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, again, I don't I don't have the knowledge of

2621
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 6: the exo's nose like Evan's talking about. I would just

2622
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 6: say that I think a lot of teams could have

2623
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 6: had that scheme and not had the success.

2624
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a lot of talent.

2625
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 6: Harry Richard, Dan, Michael Singletary, Otis Wilson, Doug Playing, Gary Fencik.

2626
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 7: Those were great players.

2627
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 4: There's that other big defensive line Marshall Well refrigerated Perry Perry.

2628
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 6: There was another one too well, Wilber. Yeah, they Wilbur

2629
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 6: Marshall was uh was on that team too. It's another one.

2630
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 7: They blitzed a lot like the line were immense.

2631
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's.

2632
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: Happy different era. Yeah, Craig and Charlotte last time, this

2633
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 2: time last year, all anyone could talk about with Drake

2634
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: May's footwork, which foot was forward? How many steps was

2635
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 2: he dropping? Haven't heard a peep about it this year.

2636
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 2: We know Josh in the past had Brady take shallower

2637
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: drops and step up more in the pocket. With Will

2638
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 2: Campbell having some issues with outside in rush moves, i'd

2639
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,759
Speaker 2: expect this would allow him to take shallower set sets

2640
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 2: and protect better against inside moves. Wondering if you've seen

2641
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 2: any adjustment by Drake from what he did last year.

2642
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 2: Is his left foot still forward? And also note I

2643
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: do wash my legs. Italian SUPs don't have mao and

2644
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: boneless chicken wings are tenders.

2645
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, the trifector of dominance.

2646
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 3: I'm not answered the football question after I just heard

2647
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 3: that last line.

2648
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm out, wow, Wow, You're not going to answer left footfall.

2649
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 2: So are we still worried about Drake May's footwork?

2650
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I will be forever worried about Drake May's footwork

2651
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 3: because that just what these are the things that I

2652
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 3: worry about. The drops in terms of the depth of

2653
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 3: the drop that is tied to the routes that they're calling.

2654
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 3: So like the depth of the drop I think was

2655
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 3: more of a Brady thing than I would say that

2656
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 3: it was like a system thing. A big part of

2657
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 3: that with Brady is that he's not mobile, so like

2658
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 3: he would set to a certain depth to you know,

2659
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 3: help out his tackles because he's not going to help

2660
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 3: him out by running. So that was a big aspect

2661
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 3: of it. Too. Left foot forward, I would say, is

2662
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 3: probably gonna stick. But you know, I think a lot

2663
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 3: of what they're trying to do is carry over. You

2664
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 3: know Ashton Grant was in Cleveland last year with Stefanski

2665
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 3: and and try to keep it as much the same

2666
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 3: from a footwork standpoint as they possibly can. So I'm

2667
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 3: not worried about it by any means, but I'm always

2668
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 3: going to be watching his feet. I mean, that's that's

2669
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 3: a big part of his game, is making sure that

2670
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 3: that stays rhythmic and stays on time and he stays

2671
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 3: fluid with his motion and all that kind of stuff.

2672
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Speaking Fresno, going back to our original discussion of free agents,

2673
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 2: he says, it's a question do you sacrifice more wins

2674
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 2: this season if the free agency class mostly bus or

2675
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 2: if Drake May is unimproved, Probably the ladder.

2676
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd probably lean the ladder.

2677
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 2: If he's unimproved.

2678
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 6: I just yeah, if he's like he was last year,

2679
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna win that many more games

2680
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 6: than they did last year. They'll probably win more because

2681
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 6: I think they're better coached and you do have better

2682
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 6: talent around him. But if he plays poorly and turns

2683
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 6: the ball over and to you a point, Mike that

2684
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 6: you've been harping on, isn't what he needs to be

2685
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 6: Latent games when games are decided.

2686
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 7: Your record's not going to be great.

2687
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 4: Do you think that there's a large percentage of Patriot

2688
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 4: fans that are just head in the sand?

2689
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 5: Drake May is awesome. Yeah, we have our quarterback and

2690
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 5: he's gonna be great this year, you know, Like I

2691
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 5: just yeah, I think for me, he's the story this

2692
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 5: year to me.

2693
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 4: And I think Rabel is over overshadowing that as the

2694
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 4: new coach and then all the new system. But really

2695
01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 4: how this team wins or loses it, it's just you guys.

2696
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 6: Know, I love to sort of tease the you know,

2697
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 6: the over the top, you know optimism Patriots fans. This

2698
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 6: isn't even just Patriots fans. Like how many times have

2699
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 6: you seen different national things this year that are listing?

2700
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 6: You know, I saw something on Twitter yesterday. These eight

2701
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 6: guys are poised for a huge year or two jump

2702
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 6: and you know, Drake May is one of them. Peter Schrager,

2703
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 6: I think, you know, I had identified him as absolutely all. Like,

2704
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 6: I think he's given credit for doing things last year

2705
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 6: that he didn't do quite frankly, and maybe that's because

2706
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 6: he had so little around him that they just automatically

2707
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 6: extrapolate and say if he just had a little help,

2708
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 6: he would be x times better, which I don't think

2709
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 6: is absurd. I think he had very little help and

2710
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 6: was able to make some plays, just not enough. But

2711
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 6: I don't I think Patriots fans and National fans in

2712
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 6: general believe that Drake May has ascended to a level

2713
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 6: he has in this I.

2714
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 3: Just wonder what, like, what's our bar though, because like

2715
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is a great quarterback. He hasn't won anything,

2716
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 3: but we can all say we watch Justin Herbert, it's

2717
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 3: a good quarterback. That's a really talented quarterback. If Drake

2718
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 3: May is that's the level that he gets to is

2719
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 3: like a Justin Herbert level where they're a playoff team

2720
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 3: but he's not winning the super Bowl?

2721
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: Is that?

2722
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Are we that they?

2723
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 2: But are we? Like?

2724
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 3: No one's doubting that the Chargers have their quarter like

2725
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 3: nor Herbert their quarter.

2726
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 6: But if I would say if May plays it to

2727
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 6: that level, I would say that that he's made significant improvements.

2728
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree. I just think that are you

2729
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 3: asking if that's good enough?

2730
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2731
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 3: Because I think that like a lot of people are

2732
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 3: going to look at that and say, you know, kind

2733
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 3: of like they do with with bloodsoe frankly, like they're

2734
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 3: gonna sit there and say, fine player, but not great player.

2735
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 7: Apologize. It's just like that's a very rational time.

2736
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I feel like that bar is high,

2737
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of the winning aspect of it.

2738
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 4: I mean, on him, Patriot fans aren't gonna want to

2739
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 4: be the Philip Rivers team of the twenty twenties and

2740
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: have a good quarterback. But you're just never gonna be

2741
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. You're always gonna be and

2742
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 4: they don't want that thing wan to you better than Josh.

2743
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 6: But do you fall short because your quarterback isn't good enough?

2744
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 6: Or do you fall short because your team just can't

2745
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 6: get over the hump?

2746
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 13: Right?

2747
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 6: So I'm not help bent like it has to be

2748
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 6: a title or bust. Like I think Dan Marino is

2749
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 6: pretty good. I know that's a controversial take. I'll take

2750
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 6: Dan Marino any day.

2751
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 7: Of the week. He never want anything, never want a

2752
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 7: damn thing.

2753
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 6: I'll take Dan Marino as my quarterback and say it's

2754
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 6: on you, right, Patriots, to make sure that you're good

2755
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 6: enough to augment this guy right and make sure that

2756
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 6: he has enough around him to win, yep. And if

2757
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 6: you can't, you can't. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna

2758
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 6: be happy if they never win, But.

2759
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 3: The long term outlook is really what I'm getting at

2760
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 3: the Chargers.

2761
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 6: I don't think don't don't win because of Justin Herbert.

2762
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 6: Now maybe I'm wrong. It's his career is still relatively young.

2763
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 6: Maybe he's just one of those guys that his desk

2764
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 6: just enough.

2765
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 3: To look like quarterbacks are to me, are like on

2766
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 3: such a binary scale of like they're either the guys

2767
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 3: you have to pay or guys that aren't the guy

2768
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 3: and like, you know, friend's guy, Trevor Lawrence. It's like

2769
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Trevor Laurren's making fifty million dollars to quarterback the Jaguars

2770
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 3: because you can see it when you watch him play.

2771
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 3: He looks the part of a franchise quarterback. But they

2772
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 3: don't win. So it's like, is that gonna be Drake's

2773
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 3: future or is he going to be able to be

2774
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 3: a winner, like a true winner? And I think that

2775
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 3: that's gonna be hard with her.

2776
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 4: What's his dynamic with Josh Allen? That to me, is

2777
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 4: he the little brother who can't ever quite beat him?

2778
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 4: Or is he somebody who's nipping at his heels in chilling.

2779
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and not be good enough because Cincinnati's inept

2780
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 6: and can't get him over the hump.

2781
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 2: Good good, good comp. Speaking of comp's most interesting Patriots

2782
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: fan of the world on the Devers trade, comp says

2783
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 2: Richard Seymour getting traded for a fourth rounder.

2784
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 3: Richard Seymour was way more towards the end of his

2785
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 3: career though, like Dev's in the prime of his career,

2786
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 3: is like twenty six years old.

2787
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, that's a good comp.

2788
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: It's not bad. That's gonna be it for this edition

2789
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday at noon

2790
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 2: with another edition and we'll have more fun then catch

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02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 2: twenty two tomorrow Tomorrow noon. So Barth is still doing

2792
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 2: this right, Yeah, he hasn't not too busy.

2793
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 3: He hasn't big time me yet, but okay's coming. He

2794
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 3: has like seventeen different podcasts.

2795
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, because if he's out, we're going to pair you

2796
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 2: up with FITZI.

2797
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 3: So oh god ready nobody has more podcasts than Alex

2798
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 3: Bart I'll tell you that.

2799
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 2: All right. Thanks for listening. Hey, this is Deuce.

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02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:40,960
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