1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Moistline is eighty seven 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: seven Moist eighty six. You better call and get on 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: for Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty six. And in 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: a few minutes, The Wall Street Journal has another exclusive 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: inside Boeing's factory. It's even worse than you thought, even 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: worse than previously reported. It's it's fascinating. Really, this is 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: really a bad company. They really have a bad manufacturing system. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: How can it be worse? John, Well, you'll see it's 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: coming up later in the hour. This I've read this 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: story several times and I'm still not sure exactly well 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I understand the story. But it's the lecture that this 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: story profiles. UCLA Medical School. They had an event that 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: they scheduled with professor doctor Helena Hansen and the title 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: of it is Beyond Magic Bullets, Whiteness as a structural 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: driver of the Opioid Crisis. I should say that again, 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: whiteness as a structural driver of the opioid crisis. This 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: is the lecture to the medical students. It was going 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: to be April fourth in person, and you could watch 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: on zoom. The particulars have now changed. I guess there's 21 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: been some backlash. We're going to find out. Let's talk 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: with the Caroline Downey, who wrote a piece for National 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Review that was published today. Caroline, how are you? 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm great? Thank you so much for having me. 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Explain what this lecture was supposed to be about, or 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to be about. 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Well, like you mentioned, it was hosted as one of 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: the clinical adjacent teaching seminars available to President's professors, faculty 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: at the school, doctors farm, you know, pharmacists, technically any 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: of those kind of medical professionals could attend, and the 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: idea is to bring in these speakers such as this 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: doctor Helena Hansen, to offer new information about the industry. 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: And you know, usually it's patients and their problems and 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: its case studies and the treatment that might be given 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: as as a result of their particular circumstances. Usually it's 36 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: that it's that kind of informative session. 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: What does skin color has to do with theoid crisis? 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: Well? 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Right, so in this case they went full radical politicized, 40 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: bringing racial identity politics into medicine. And it's like it's 41 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: like blaming the African American community for the crack crisis. 42 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: That would be the equivalent. It's just so blatantly racist 43 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: to have a lecture with this topic and this title. 44 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: But I reported that once they had any scrutiny, they 45 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: completely buffled under pressure and they flipped the topic. They 46 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: changed it to in person only so there's no zoom access, 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: probably because they kind of feeling some people would be 48 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: infiltrating and try to get some hot mic moments from 49 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: this lecturer, because no doubt it would be extremely radical, 50 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: it would be extremely politicized and ideological. But this is 51 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: how many prestigious medical schools in America have devolved. They've 52 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: evolved into ideological institutions. I mean, there's other medical schools 53 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: that are far more higher ranked than UCLA that are 54 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: now dabbling into you know, not dabbling. They're embracing gender medicine, 55 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: endorsing the idea that children, you know, as young as 56 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: seven years old or ten years old can undergo life 57 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: altering invasive interventions and surgery. I mean, but this is 58 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: being this is being wholeheartedly, you know, kind of institutionalized. 59 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: In American medical schools. They're promoting the idea that seven 60 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: to ten year olds can have like a surgery already. 61 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean it's hard. There's so 62 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: many medical. 63 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Schools change their gender. 64 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: Yes. 65 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: What this audience seems to know is that America's highest 66 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: ranking medical schools are involved in this pushing of ideas. 67 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely they are, and they've been hijacked. They've been hijacked. 68 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Same thing with EI diversity, equity inclusion. That is a 69 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: permanent fixture of academia largely, and medical school is not 70 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: immune from that. And you know, but instead of sending 71 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: sociologists or kind of pointless degree holders into society with 72 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: bachelor's degrees, you know, an undergrad these are our nations, 73 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: dop this is the future generation of practitioners. 74 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to go to 75 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: that doctor. I really, I'd be terrified to go to 76 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: a doctor who had these kind of views. Well, right, 77 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: but on the whiteness thing, do we know, does this professor, 78 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: because she's written a book on this topic, is she 79 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: blaming white people for inventing the opioid crisis or white 80 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: people being the primary users of opioids? 81 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: Well, so the problem was the flyer was super ambiguous, 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: and I was unable to get into this lecture myself 83 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: because they blocked it off from zoom. Now you have 84 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: to physically attend, so I'm hoping I can get somebody 85 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: to figure out what this lecture is going to be about. 86 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: But I did look into this professor's past literature, and 87 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: she has books that are related to use the term 88 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: whiteness in the context of the opioid crisis, as if 89 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: to attribute attribute that kind of epidemic to. 90 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: Just being white. 91 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's extremely inflammatory. I have no 92 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: doubt that, you know, her views are probably held by 93 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: other faculty at the college. She used to teach at 94 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: New York University and YU also a very radical captured university. 95 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: So you know, but this is this is what has 96 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 2: become of America's you know, top grad schools. 97 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, some of these professors that are pushing this 98 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: are older. Did they always have these views? Because a 99 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff and I read about this every 100 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: day like you do, a lot of the stuff I 101 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: never heard of until the last couple of years. And 102 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: then I look at, you know, professor Hanson in this case, 103 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: and I can't give you an how exactly how old 104 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: she is, but you know she didn't graduate college yesterday. 105 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: She must at least be in her forties. I mean, 106 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: has this been being taught for decades under the surface 107 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: and most people didn't know. 108 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: I definitely think the roots go back many years. There 109 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: were certainly subtle, like the subtle springs of what we 110 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 2: would now call DEI and all of its different perturbations. 111 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: But I think the confluence of crazy events around twenty twenty, 112 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: the Racial Justice riots, that massive overhaul of potentially American 113 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: norms because of this like massive racial question that America 114 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: was obsessed with for first the summer and then a 115 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: year later. I think that restructured many parts of American society, 116 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: and it also created a brand new business, a business 117 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: model that is, if we can identify racism in everything 118 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: and then create basically endless conversations around that, there's academics 119 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: who are going to make money off of providing remedies 120 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: to that so called racism that they are finding in 121 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: locations that you know, they're inventing it out of thin air. 122 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: That's why we have DEI consultancies. That's why we have 123 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: doctors like Helen Hansen who apparently focus on the intersection 124 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: between race and medicine. Even though that should absolutely. 125 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: That should not exist. 126 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: That makes no sense, it's not has nothing. 127 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: To do with the well. Medicine should just treat sick 128 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: human beings and then the color doesn't matter at all. 129 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of money in this 130 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: new area must and we've seen you know, we've seen 131 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: that all over the place. So that's I think that's 132 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: why it kind of accelerated, reached a feverish pitch pitch 133 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and then so on, and now it's 134 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, fully embedded into you know, academia, and there's 135 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: entire debt departments indicated to DEI. So it stands to 136 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: reason that you know, they're going to find it in medicine, 137 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: they're going to find ways to moment it in everything, 138 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, corporate training, whatever it is, you know, 139 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: to pay through twelve, you know, preschool, they're going to 140 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: find ways to embed it. It's kind of like a 141 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a cancer. 142 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: And nobody pushes back at these universities, Absolutely no one. 143 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: I think the students they face retaliation if they object 144 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: to these sorts of things, and I mean they're just 145 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: think about how hard it is to get into medical 146 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: schools actually gain admission. To object as a student is 147 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: to make yourself effectively like a leper, because there's no 148 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: way that all the students are going to rally together, 149 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: even though they should. They're just trying to get They're 150 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: just trying to get the degree, they're trying to get residency. 151 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: They're trying to have their work pay off so they 152 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: can finally become doctors. So I think a lot of 153 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: them they probably are like, what the heck is this? 154 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: But they probably just they do what they got to do, 155 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: and no one's putting up much of a collective fight. 156 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: And I mean there are whistleblowers who expose these kinds 157 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: of things that I've been in touch with many of them, 158 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: but I mean they sase ostracization by their field. And 159 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: because you would not be you would not see would 160 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: be amazed by how many actually pedal this kind of thing. 161 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: All right, Carolyn, thank you for coming on, good stuff, 162 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: Thank you for having your time. Carolyn Downey writing for 163 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: the National Review. But UCLA lecture whiteness as a structural 164 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: driver of the opioid crisis. When we come back, what's 165 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: it like? On the Boeing seven thirty seven production factory line. Well, 166 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: the headlines have words like confusion, disarray, missed procedures. That's 167 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: not what you want to hear about a company that 168 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: manufactures airplanes that fly in the sky. 169 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 170 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: six forty. 171 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, news comes pouring at you all day, and 172 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: often the way it's covered is you get a headline. 173 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: You know, all that door plug blew off the plane, right, 174 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: and you never find out because I always wanted to know, well, 175 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: exactly how did that happen, like when they when they 176 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: built the plane or when they maintained the plane. What 177 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: what was going on in the factory that day on 178 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the production line. What were people saying to each other? 179 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: What what was the moment that something was missed and 180 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: they forgot to put the bolts in and the door 181 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: would fly it out. We're not have the final answer, 182 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: but we're getting there and over the series of weeks. 183 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Now the Wall Street Journal and the writers Andrew Tangle 184 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: and Sharon Turlep are putting out great stuff. I mean 185 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: they must they must be talking to everybody on the 186 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: production line, and I think you've got all these employees 187 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: whose frustrations have built up for years and they're telling uh, 188 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: tangle and turlp all kinds of stuff. So we're gonna 189 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: put you out of the assembly line. And in Renton, Washington, 190 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: at the Boeing plant where the plane rolled off with 191 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the bolts missing from the door plug all right on 192 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: September first, they noticed that rivets were damaged on the fuselage. 193 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: And the rivets are like fasteners, they hold things in place. 194 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: The fuselage should come from their supplier factory in Wichita, Kansas, 195 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: Spirit Arrow Systems. So Spirit Arrow Systems assembled the fuselage 196 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and they sent it to rent In Washington for Boweing 197 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: to do the rest of the work. Then the plane 198 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: rolls out of the rent In factory and eventually you 199 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: fly on it. Well, bad rivets coming from Wichita. They 200 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: had to fix them, and they had a hard time 201 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: fixing them, doing it properly and doing it on time, 202 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: and it got a lot of employees frustrated. And everything 203 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: is documented, everything is written down and situations are given 204 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: are put on special tiers to give them priority. This 205 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: was a Tier three priority. This is supposed to get 206 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: high level attention at the factory. This was the employees 207 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: trying to finish the jet because it was so far 208 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: behind schedule. There was an internal message that was created 209 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: called tier change from two to three with four dollars 210 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: signs meaning we're losing a lot of money here, let's 211 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: fix this. This was on September seventeenth. The Wall Street 212 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Journal says the factory was in disarray. Crews were unable 213 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: to keep to the schedule, didn't follow procedures. Production pressure 214 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: mounted as the delays piled up. According to entries in 215 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: something called the ship Side Action Tracker, this is called SAT. 216 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Not the exact. This is people right on this internal 217 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: channel to say, hey, what the hell is going on? 218 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: And some people are writing, hey, this is this plane's 219 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: really late. It's costing us money. Someone else is riding hey, 220 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: hey we got to hurry up. Someone else is saying, well, 221 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: we can't hurry up. This is not assembled. Right. Oh, 222 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: they got rivet problems, right. They're arguing with each other. 223 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: But the pressure was always primarily coming from get the 224 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: plane off. The production line workers extended the estimated time 225 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: for completing work fifty times. Fifty times the damaged rivets 226 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: were supposed to be repaired by a deadline fifty times 227 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: they missed the deadline. The rivets in this case were 228 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: specifically around the frame of the door plug. Now, if 229 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: you have fifty complaints, abouts fifty the delays ranged anywhere 230 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: from a half hour to days. So after fifty complaints, 231 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: the work was finally signed off on, officially completed on 232 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: September twentieth, and a final quality check was requested. But 233 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: I guess the final quality check either wasn't done or 234 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: they didn't look at the door plugs, you know. And 235 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: so now you have all these investigations going on, and 236 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: a Boeing spokesman said the company is prohibited by federal 237 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: rules from discussing the investigation. They still haven't talked to 238 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the supervisor. He's on medical leave. He's been on medical 239 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: leave since the day this happened. He basically went into hiding. 240 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's getting paid. And so the guy 241 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: who might be most responsible for signing off on this 242 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: thing nobody can talk to. 243 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: And I guess we need we need to put him 244 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: on a plane that has missing parts or no screw 245 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: or whatever and see how he would like it. 246 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: You've got to you've got a mean streak, you because 247 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: you're an eye for an eye girl. I know here 248 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: we're putting you on the plane. Mister production manager. You 249 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: don't care about the flying public. And forget, we're not 250 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: even putting a door plug on this one. Okay, good 251 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: luck put a door, no seat belt, grab onto something. 252 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have an AI pilot. Yeah, but you know 253 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: what it was. It was daily chaos and a lot 254 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: of pressure. And you know, when bosses are screaming keep 255 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: it moving, keep it moving, keep it moving, at some 256 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: point you either lose your focus or you give up 257 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: and say, all right, what the hell, let's see what 258 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: happens on this one. Debra Mark Live, Oh, well, we 259 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: got Steve Gregory coming up. Steve Gregory, Oh you probably 260 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: heard about this. Remember in twenty twenty two, that fifteen 261 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: year old girl who was killed by the San Bernardino 262 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's deputies. Her father had taken police on a chase, 263 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: and they says, you know, they really nobody could tell 264 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: whether she was willfully going along with the father or 265 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: she was kidnapped. And she came out of the car 266 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: started running towards the cops. Was she surrendering? Well, the 267 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: sheriff's deputy shot her to death and there's now a 268 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: video showing her getting hit by the deputy. Steve Gregory's 269 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: on the case. That's next. 270 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 271 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: six forty. 272 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: Steve Gregory is here with us because we have another 273 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: chapter in a story that started in September of twenty 274 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: twenty two San Berdan, Nto County on Interstate fifteen in Esteria. 275 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: You may remember the fifteen year old girl that was 276 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: running at police. She and her father had led the 277 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: police on a chase and eventually she was running towards them. 278 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: They thought she was dangerous and shot her death. And 279 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: never have we really gotten the full story on this. 280 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: And I do have to say before Steve starts, Steve 281 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: one nine Golden Mics over the weekend, nine of them 282 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: for all his various reporting and specials, and thank you 283 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: podcast work. And I also need to Jacob Gonzalez is 284 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: my producer. Nick Pouliochini was a producer, and Bart Avery 285 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: helped me in Hawaii. I don't think there's another radio 286 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: news team like you guys anywhere in the country that 287 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm aware of. Well, we certainly did well, and you know, 288 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Devra got best newscast and Amy King got Best Specialty 289 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: Show for her morning show. So we did. We did 290 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: very well this year. Best news department. Yeah, thank you, 291 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: best news department in the country. All right, let's get 292 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: to let's get to this story because I remember this 293 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: story as soon as I saw this. We did remember 294 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: on the show, but you know, I'd forgotten about it. 295 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: These stories just disappear and then I know. And the 296 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: thing is when these kinds of cases happen, and especially 297 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: ones were like you know, now the Attorney General is 298 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: looking at it because that new law that passed a 299 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: year ago where someone that's unarmed is killed by law 300 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: enforcement automatically elevates or escalates to the Attorney General's office 301 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: and the state will investigate it also, so it is 302 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: also in the hands of the AG's office. As you said, 303 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: could you set up like how she and the dad 304 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: ended up getting well, I was going to say, as 305 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: you might recall, we're going back to September twenty sixth 306 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, the Fontana Police Department had reported 307 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: that Anthony Gratziano had shot his wife to death and 308 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: kidnapped their fifteen year old daughter. When the Amber alert 309 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: had been issued for a twenty seventeen Nissan Frontier. On 310 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: the next day, on the twenty seventh, Well on the 311 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, a clerk at a high desert convenience store 312 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: called nine to one one when he recognized Savannah. Savannah 313 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: happened to be buying snacks. Deputies quickly got to the scene. 314 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: They found the pickup near the junction of Highways three, 315 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: ninety five and fifty eight near barst and then a 316 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: car chase started, and in fact, I remember speeds of 317 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour or so. The chase went 318 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: along Highway fifty eight, then it went southbound on the 319 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: fifteenth through Victorville and right into the Hysperia area, and 320 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: that's when they got the truck got cornered by helicopters 321 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: and chp and San Bernardino County Sheriff's deputies. At that 322 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: point there was a shootout. And what was released today 323 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: or actually was released yesterday afternoon, was audio tape from 324 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: the one of the deputies audio recorders on his uniform. 325 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't a body cam, it was an audio recorder 326 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: and that's still standard practice in some departments. And some 327 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: of the radio chatter from the helicopter and from the 328 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: actual scene when they were communicating back and forth. And 329 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: then in this video that was released there's also a 330 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: narrative by a member of the Sheriff's department. So what 331 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I want to play first is this cut be Eric 332 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and this is the helicopter uh that you can hear 333 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: a pilot in the in the helicopter talking and trying 334 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: to coordinate all the stuff on the ground. Because by 335 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: now Graziana is now shooting at deputies and deputies are 336 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: shooting back, so now a full blown shootout is in effect. 337 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: And this is just a small clip. 338 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: Shots are fired, shots are fired, rolled out out. 339 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: Anyone out any others. 340 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Now, two things you hear on there, you say, she's 341 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: getting out of the passenger side. She's getting out of 342 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: the passenger side. So what's happening simultaneously on the ground 343 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: is a deputy is screaming for her to come toward him. 344 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: And then did you hear the pilot at the end 345 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: go oh no, he realized she'd been shot and went 346 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: down right. So at this point, the next audio I 347 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: want to play, it's actually uh cut A and this 348 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: is the audio recording on the deputy's uniform. And you 349 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: can hear him, uh really trying to get her to 350 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: come right toward. 351 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 5: Him past the dirk it out, passer it out, get out, 352 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 5: get out, get out, passive, murk it out, get out there, 353 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 5: come here to come to me, Come to me, Come 354 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 5: to me, co co co Cory. 355 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: Stop, clap to your the warm top. 356 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: She's okay, it's in the car. Stop. Well she wasn't okay. 357 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: You hear him say she's okay. I think he's meaning 358 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: she's okay, like he's she's not the target. But you 359 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: can hear she was running towards him, and and and 360 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: he was encouraging her to run towards him. So who 361 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: did the shooting? So here's where the confusion starts to 362 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: play in. And from what we can tell now is 363 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: that he was not connected via radio to everybody else. 364 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: So when you hear him communicating, you're only hearing him 365 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: shouting out, just shouting. It's not on the radio, and 366 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: that's why we hear it, because it's on his personal recording. Note, 367 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: they don't know why she's running towards, so it's everyone. 368 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not clear to anyone else why she's running. There 369 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: had been some reports early on that case, if you 370 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: might recall that she might have been complicit or at 371 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: least a will I remember that that she was dressed 372 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: in tactical right now when you look at the video, 373 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: she's got like large loose clothing on her. And there 374 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: had been a suggestion that she was a willing participant, 375 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: even at fifteen years old. So I think there was 376 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: some confusion. And I mean, I don't want to speculate 377 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: on it, it's not my job, but based on everything 378 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing, it looks as though there was some major 379 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: confusion on who was the target and who wasn't the target. 380 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Were they shooting at her dad at that yes, So 381 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: all those gunshots you're hearing while he's yelling at her 382 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: to come to him, all the gunshots, that's the exchange 383 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: between dad and the other deputy, so that the dad 384 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: is still shooting at deputies. But here's the thing that 385 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: I suppose will come out in the investigation is whether 386 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: deputies intended to hit her or whether she was simply 387 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: caught in the crossfire, right, And that's the thing I 388 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: think is going to have to come out in the investigation, 389 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: both on the state and local level. Yeah, I mean, 390 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: he was trying to get her to safety though. Yeah, 391 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: that one deputy kind of realized what was happening. He 392 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: didn't think she was a danger apparently not somebody else did. 393 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Or this was just caught in the crossfire, yeah, because 394 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: dad was firing away. Yeah, And I mean it's the 395 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: whole thing is there's nothing good at this story. I mean, 396 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: there's no up anything. What's happened to the deputy? Since 397 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: has any of them been put up leave? By policy, 398 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: everyone involved in a case like this goes on administrative 399 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: leave until the investigation is complete. The current status of 400 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: the deputies I'm not clear on. All right, well, then 401 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: there's more to come. Yeah, all right, Okay, fascinating audio there. 402 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: Steve Gregory Cafi news nine Golden Mics. He went over 403 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: the weekend another Golden Mic winner here. I don't have nine. 404 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't have anything. I know they did not where 405 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: We've never been worthy. We only get we only get 406 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: listeners and bring in revenue. 407 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's it. 408 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: The radio industry doesn't understand us. No, I think you're 409 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: very deserving. Well, thank you. 410 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 411 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: six forty. 412 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Conway's coming in in a few minutes. Did you see 413 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: that Lebron James is pissed off about squatters in his neighborhood, 414 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't you be? He bought He paid thirty seven million 415 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: dollars for a mansion in Beverly Hills two years ago 416 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: and then tore it down and he's building his new 417 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: dream home. It's in the neighborhood of ben Athleck and 418 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez. But two doors from his property, squatters have 419 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: taken over a home and they're throwing cocaine orgies the neighbors. 420 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: Other neighbors were upset, got in touch with Lebron James's 421 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: house manager. Maybe they thought Lebron could get something done. 422 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: And this particular home that's been squatted on, it's four bedrooms, 423 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: six bathrooms, it's worth four million dollars and it's owned 424 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: by a doctor, Muneer Uwaida, who fled the country eleven 425 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: years ago. His girlfriend got murdered and I guess police 426 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: think he did it, and the property was repossessed from 427 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: doctor Uweida and the bank has it now. So in 428 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: the meantime, the squatters have been throwing parties almost every night. 429 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: Rave parties. They start at two am. They run for hours. 430 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: There's been assaults, fires, arrests. Squatters were advertising rooms on 431 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: booking dot com for three hundred dollars a night and 432 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: they would charge guests seventy five dollars entry fees at 433 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: the gate and hundreds of people would show up. This 434 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: neighborhood is so wealthy. Jeff Bezos, Steve Winn, and Rod 435 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Berkle all have homes with at a half mile of 436 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: this house, and Lebron's house manager had to keep security 437 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: guards at at this house twenty four to seven because 438 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: of the squatter parties. A neighbor said the police could 439 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: not evict the residents. They had driver's licenses using that 440 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: property address and a fake rental ingreements. So even Lebron's 441 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: out of luck, he can't get the squatters out of 442 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. We have conway and time. 443 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: Now, Hey, can you imagine telling our grandfathers somebody's in 444 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: your house, they won't get out. You imagine how short 445 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: that conversation would have been. Like anybody listening right now, 446 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: your grandfather was told that there's somebody in their house 447 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 6: and you can't get that, And somebody's at his house. 448 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 6: You can't get them out. They'd be dead and buried 449 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: and never seen again. 450 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: And then but what happened is and this is the 451 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: new world. They'll get sued for having removed the person 452 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: who is in the house illegally. 453 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: Right, that's great. It's craziness on craziness. It's wild. 454 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: This Friday, there is a star on the Hollywood Walk 455 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 6: of Fame being dedicated to a friend's dad, guy named 456 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 6: Charlie Fox. You may know him. He wrote that song 457 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: killing Me Softly. Maybe you've heard that? 458 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Wow? 459 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: Yes, he also wrote the Laverne and Shirley theme song 460 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: Happy Days Love Boat. 461 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: I've always wondered, not that you'd know, like, how much 462 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: money if you had a really big hit song, right, 463 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: number one blockbuster of the year, the residuals on that millions? 464 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: How much? How much is it? Well? 465 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 6: Killing Me Softly was the number one song played worldwide 466 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 6: for twenty two straight years. 467 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Is that right? 468 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 469 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: So there was a check coming in every three or 470 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 6: four months for a million dollars. 471 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: I had a friend one song. My friend was a 472 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: composer and he would do music for cartoons and TV 473 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: shows and movies, and he used to call it mailbox money. 474 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: One of his cartoons got syndicated in like eighty five countries, 475 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: and he'd get royalties from all eighty five countries in the. 476 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: That's the way to go. The mailman becomes your boss. Yeah, 477 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 6: you know, he brings your check. 478 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go out to the 479 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to the mailbox every day. 480 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: That's your day, right and uh and uh And we're 481 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 6: we're not in. 482 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: Usually gonna be on with this. What I don't understand 483 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: why you mentioned that. 484 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 6: No, because his star is being his star is happening 485 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: this Friday. So we're going to go into it on 486 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: the property. 487 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh so we're going to talk about it. Oh yeah, Yeah, 488 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about we don't have a connect to 489 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: them to get him on the air. 490 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 6: We do, but I don't want to be a pain 491 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: in the ass. 492 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: A pain in the ass. How many times does he 493 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: get his star in the walk? Since? When you don't 494 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: want to be a pain in the ass? 495 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: When did this puts my new life? 496 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Wow? Would you find some kind of religion? 497 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's don't. I don't want to ask too many favorites. 498 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: There are too many people, you know, I do know 499 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: to do it. 500 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: I don't always feel like, I'm asking too much, and 501 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 6: I asked a guy. 502 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: But the love the love boat theme, I mean that's huge. No, 503 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: you should ask him to come on. I've been on before. 504 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: I just don't have him. Have him on a game, 505 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: So you're not going to bother him. He's already to 506 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: put up with you before. 507 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: Look when you're a how old disease? 508 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: Two even got less on the schedule. 509 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 6: Look, how old are you? 510 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: John? 511 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 6: You're in your forties, right, Okay? You still when somebody says, hey, 512 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 6: can you call into a radio show in Cleveland High 513 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 6: You're like, actually. 514 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't mind that really, Yeah, I like being on 515 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: the radio when I don't have to be in charge. 516 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 6: Okay, will you call in? As Charlie Fox. Then in 517 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 6: about hour. 518 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Read up on him by Conway thinks that everybody's like him. 519 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: He doesn't want to go anywhere, he doesn't want to 520 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: see anything, he doesn't want to call. 521 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: It, he doesn't want to leave the house. And other people, 522 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: actually they want to do it. That's right. 523 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 6: I don't want to do anything. 524 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm in the majority. People have had it, People have 525 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: had who identified with old people laying around. Now, nobody 526 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: wants to four years doing nothing nobody. How about this. 527 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 6: I have to quick. My daughter's leaving for school and 528 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 6: she can't get out of the driveway because they're they're putting, uh, 529 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 6: they're filling potholes in Burbank like they do all the time, 530 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 6: and she can't get out. She's a new driver and 531 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 6: she's nervous. So I throw on jeans it's you know, 532 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 6: it's seven in the morning. A shirt, it's on backwards. 533 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 6: My shoes are untied. I get the car and I'm 534 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 6: moving around the truck. My hair's all left up and 535 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 6: my eyes are swollen from all the you know, the 536 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 6: pizza I had last night. And I'm walking back in 537 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 6: the house and the guy in the truck who's filling 538 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 6: the potholes, hey, dig dog. Yeah, oh it's a true story. 539 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, good story. The ding doesn't wake up till noon. Yeah, 540 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: he's out working. 541 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 6: Morning, right, Yeah, he's working his ass on Conway, Tom 542 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 6: sing Dog and Ashley Johnson is a CAFI twenty four 543 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 6: our newsroom. 544 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 545 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 546 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 547 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,